One Piece: The Xtreme Review (Part 2: From G-8 to Water 7)

A lot of people ask where One Piece stops feeling “too long” and starts feeling inevitable. For us, it’s this stretch. We go arc by arc from G8 and Long Ring Long Land into the gut-punch run of Water 7 and Enies Lobby, and we get honest about what works, what drags, and why certain scenes still live in our heads years later.

Tenara joins me as we talk through why G8 is the rare filler arc with real storytelling weight, why Foxy is a love-it-or-hate-it detour, and how Water 7 forces Luffy to act like a captain instead of just the loudest optimist in the room. From Robin’s manipulation by CP9 to the crew being framed, we dig into the pressure-cooker choices that make Enies Lobby iconic: “I Want To Live,” shooting the flag, the Going Merry farewell, and the way every Straw Hat levels up when it actually matters.

Then we push forward into Thriller Bark, Sabaody Archipelago, Amazon Lily, Impel Down, and Marineford. We break down Kuma’s shadow over the story, the Celestial Dragons moment that flips the tone, Bon Clay’s unforgettable sacrifice, and why the Paramount War still feels like a turning point for the entire world of One Piece. We close on 3D2Y and the two-year plan that turns loss into growth. If you’re rewatching, catching up, or trying to convince a friend to finally start, hit play and tell us which arc from this run is your favorite, then subscribe, share, and leave a review.

Transcript

G8 Filler That Feels Canon

SPEAKER_05 0:01

Alright, continuing the One Piece Extreme Review with G8, Long Ring, Long Land, and Warner 7. So let's just go ahead and zoom right through. G8 Art is a fellow art in the One Piece anime where it's regarded for its storytelling and care development. And it takes place after Discopia Art in this Marine Fortress called G8, where the Straw Head pirates accidentally infiltrate after falling from the sky. And the crew find themselves dispersed within the fortress, gotta navigate through the heavily guarded base and reclaim the glowing Marion escape. They disguise themselves as Marines, they lead into these comedic and tense situations, and each member of the Straw Head crew faces their challenges to showcasing their unique abilities and teamwork. Now, two people in particular that stood out in this arc was Commander Jonathan, who was this strategic and cunning vice admiral of GA, who was determined to capture the pirates, and there was Dr. Copato, who was this kind-hearted doctor who left chopper and added depth to the art narrative. Now, although being a Bill Art, the GAR is praised for its storyline and character interactions, making a fan favorite amongst anime-only arts. Now, I do like how with Commander Jonathan, I like how we take a break from those cruel tyrant type villains that we saw before. And this time we just got this regular dude that's one of the best sports men, just doing his job, you know, just has to pirate. You know, I can't really hate him for that. But uh Tenara, I'm glad that you have you on for this part of the extreme view. How'd you feel about the DR?

SPEAKER_02 1:59

I liked it. Like I know people give a lot of shit for fillers and whatnot, but this was this was a good filler. Um I liked the the dynamic between the Marines and the straw hats. It's like as they're you know going undercover basically to try and find the gold that the Marines took off their ship when they, you know, landed in their island, because it was like an island in a lake on an island. Um but and just some of the you know, hijinks they get up to, you know, Sanji working in the kitchens and stuff, and Luffy, of course, meeting with the uh commander, right? Commander Jonathan? Okay, I couldn't remember if it's commander or what. Um and like I it's it's they don't really have a friendship, but it's like they're very, they're very friendly together. Like they they it and Luffy being the one, of course, to deliver the food, but being Luffy, you know, is just chowing down on the desk.

SPEAKER_04 3:07

Right.

SPEAKER_02 3:07

And then I also love down like um who was it that got locked up again? I can't remember. Um I don't remember, but with that one that one Marine walking down the hallway, Luffy following him, and the guy spins around and Luffy's there, you know, there's no one there and stuff, and Luffy is by him doing like the peace sign and making all these weird faces and stuff. It was just it was fun. Um yeah, it was just it was just a fun arc. Um and you know, the with G8 being threatened to be shut down and whatnot, and they're trying to like they're like they're definitely a family there.

SPEAKER_05 3:57

Oh uh you got muted or what you were done.

SPEAKER_02 4:01

Oh um, I mean it was uh yeah, it was a pretty you know short arc, so there wasn't it's just it was just a fun arc. I I I did like it. I I had a lot of fun with it.

SPEAKER_05 4:13

So okay, gotcha, gotcha. My bad, I gotcha.

SPEAKER_02 4:16

It's all good.

SPEAKER_05 4:17

Yeah, I thought it was all good. Like I thought it was alright. Like, I didn't have a whole lot to say. I just thought it was like, okay, there was like some hijinks going on with

Long Ring Games And Foxy Chaos

SPEAKER_05 4:26

it. And speaking of hijinks, let's go ahead and roll right into the long ring, long land art. Now, this art introduced the David Back Bike. It's like a series of pirate games with high stakes, and it starts off with Destroy Hats arriving at Long Ring Longland, where it has this uniquely shaped island with these elongated features and creatures, like yeah, dogs that's like super like you think that Dawson is a long dog, like bro, like Jesus Christ. It's like these creatures will give cat dog a romper and money with how long they can be, like I don't know, like it was just kind of funny in that uh aspect. And while they're there, they encounter the Foxy Pirates led by the comical Foxy himself, um Foxy Silver or something. Like something like that. I'm forgetting names, I'm sorry. But they're challenged to a David Back fight, and the winner takes a crew members from the losing team, and the games include the Donut Race, Groggy Ring, and the Combat Phase, each representing a unique challenge. Luffy ends up uh facing off against um Foxy team, even though it was in battle, I mean, with an ability to win back their crew members. Well, it's it was only Chopper, like they lost the donut race, so that's why when it got to the Groggy Ring, uh Sanji Zoro had to work on the by themselves, like they gotta work together in order to win this round so they can get Chopper back. And then they went to the combat phase with Luffy Fox and with Foxy. And speaking of which, Foxy, known for his nor nor beam, which slows down his opponents. It was crazy how like he was actually giving Luffy some concern. Like, you know, we're no we're normally used to Luffy getting knocked down like a couple times, maybe three times, but the way Luffy just kept getting knocked down by Foxy multiple times, it just felt a little groaning, like not in a bad uh how can I put this like it's like I kind of want Luffy to win, but damn, like they really make him work for it. That's why I'm saying. And um, just a backtrack a little bit. The donut race, I liked it in the sense where uh Tanara, are you familiar with those really old Cartoon Network cartoons? Uh one in particular, I'm thinking, is Wacky Races, you know, with all those uh classic Hannah Barbera um cartoon characters, they're all racing. There's like heroes, like the good characters and the bad characters, and they're all just like constantly racing each other. Are you familiar with that one?

SPEAKER_02 7:35

I am not familiar with that one, no. Um we were mostly a PBS household, so I didn't get into that sort of stuff until later on. And that one does not ring a bell. So I I don't think I've watched that one yet. So I cannot, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 7:51

That's okay. Like, just imagine like the Hannah Barbara uh pain, like like you know, Flintstone characters, Justin characters, um all these different classic cartoon characters, they're all racing them. It's like this, it kind of felt like Mario Kart in a way, or more like speed racer, to where the cars have these different gadgets and whatnot, and they're all trying to win the race in their own crazy way. It was kind of like that. Um, but yeah, that's what the donut rates reminded me of. And Roggy Ring. The only thing I gotta say with that is it just becomes very obvious by now, if it has been obvious before, but it becomes very obvious that Sonzi and Zoro just don't like working with each other. Oh god lord.

SPEAKER_02 8:51

No, like it's it's always been pretty, but yeah, no, that that definitely made it like yeah, very, very obvious that they're just not each other's favorite people in the least.

SPEAKER_05 9:04

Yeah, but ultimately they do get their shit together and win the round and get chopper back when you know they lost him in the last round, and then we get to the combat round, and Luffy and that goddamn Afro and Usopp as a hype man, it was just bro.

SPEAKER_02 9:33

Yeah, it's like I I'm I'm overall not a big fan of this arc. I really don't like the Foxy Pirates like at all. We've talked about this and this I just I do not like them, but that Afro fun is that Afro Pyot was fun. Um yeah, no, I that's that's probably my favorite part of it. It was just yeah, powered up powered up by an afro. Sure, Luffy, sure that's what's going on here.

SPEAKER_05 9:59

Wasn't it the rare moment that we got to see Usa without the bandana do rag thing that he got on? And oh, it turns out he had like a whole afro underneath it. I mean, it was kind of obvious the way it was like the way his hair was, even with it on, but like I just didn't think it was that much hair.

SPEAKER_02 10:20

Yeah, no, boy's got a head of hair, that's for sure.

SPEAKER_05 10:23

Yeah, I was like, whoa, okay, like, all right, so Usa might be a little black.

SPEAKER_02 10:29

A little yeah, yeah.

Water 7 Tension Inside The Crew

SPEAKER_05 10:34

All right, now let's go ahead and get into the real meme tatives of this part of the one piece of stream review. And after this, it's gonna conclude part one of our stream review. After that, and then then I'm gonna start part two with Eness Lobby. But let's go ahead and get into water seven. So water seven are pivotal and emotionally charged storyline that sets the stage for significant developments in the one-piece narrative. Set in the bustling city of Water Seven, known for its shipbuilders and a unique acquired transportation system. The straw has these repairs done for the go and marry, but they soon become embroiled in this conspiracy involving the city shipwreck. Tensions rise within the crew, particularly with Luffy and Usa, leading to the dramatic confrontation. The art introduces the mysterious CP9, a secret government agency with powerful fighters. And the straw has faced betrayal, revealing hidden motives and alliances, and must fight to clear the name. Uh, we get introduced to Iceberg, the mayor of Water 7, head of the Gallery Law Company, uh Frankie, who's the cyborg shipwright, and he eventually became a key ally and eventually joined the straw hat. And then, of course, there's like a good bunch of characters in the CP9 that seemed interesting, but one character in particular that stood out was Rob Lucci, who was known for his formidable martial art skills and his double-proof powers that we're gonna eventually see later on when we get back to Egg Hag Island. So uh yeah.

SPEAKER_02 12:20

Well, I feel like you're jumping ahead a little bit. We didn't really find out about his powers until we get to the next part, the um, and his lobby. Because in this one, it's just like we just think he's you know a normal person, don't we? I thought we didn't learn about those until the next arc.

SPEAKER_05 12:37

Yeah, but at this point, like I'm not gonna uh insult the I don't know, like sometimes I want to approach these reviews like okay, yeah, let's assume that we don't know this information ahead of time. But my problem is I do know this information ahead of time, and I I just go I'm just gonna keep learning shit. Like the whole thing with Hawkeye, where I'm like, oh right, we're not supposed to say his agile name to a way later, but I'm like, but that's what I know him as now. Like I'm so used to calling by his actual name that I could believe that he went by Hawkeye. Fair, fair, so I'm like, sometimes I try not to dive too much into the current parts, like it's like a little nudge towards it, but not giving away the whole thing, you know, like a little foreshadowing, yeah. But yeah, yeah, like you know, you have this um team CP9, and our main thing is with this art, the one thing that stood out to me the most was that fight that Luffy had with Usopp, to where Usopp doesn't want to get rid of the go and marry because it was a gift, um, it was a sentimental value and whatnot. And the way Luffy is treating the whole thing, he's like, Okay, we need a new ship, and that's that. But Usopp is treating it like a betrayal because go and marry is just like part of the crew, so it's almost like you're abandoning a member of the crew, which is unlike Luffy. But the thing about it is Luffy feels some type of way about it too, but it's just you gotta think about the rest of the crew too, which I like to where this is the arc to where it kind of challenges Luffy's position as captain, to where, yes, we believe in Luffy and you know how he has this personality, the this mindset to where, okay, I can kind of see it your way, Luffy. You know, uh, he's the kind of guy to where he wants to be his friend and whatnot, but then you gotta remember that he is the captain of the straw empires, and he can't be all happy go lucky all the time. Like he gotta make some tough decisions. Um what was that on Pano said? Um the hardest decision to take the strongest of will, something like that. It was something like that.

SPEAKER_02 15:36

Yeah, something like that. It's like, yeah, but yeah, no, it's it's it's like you know, Luffy became pirate for you know the freedom, but it's like at the same time, it's like being captain, you sometimes you have to make those hard decisions, which is again obviously really hard because that's like you said, the whole crew sort of feels like the ship is a part of the crew, and especially after the last arc uh or after uh Skyfia. It's like it's it's a hard decision, but it has to be made, and Luffy as the captain has to be the one to make that decision.

SPEAKER_05 16:09

And also, when Luffy and Usopp did have that fight, all the let's not forget, let's not go on over how the other members of the straw has was feeling about it, to where Chopper and Nani was obviously dumb like just falling the eyes on this one uh violence to stop or just um go back to being normal, you know. Like, can we just stop this and all? But um I like how Zorro's um perspective was he felt that this had to happen. Like it has to be one of those things where with Luffy, he gotta stand on business when it comes to certain things. Like he Zoro even said that's one line to where if you uh waiver even once, how can we trust you?

SPEAKER_02 17:13

It was like, wow It was, yeah, that was and the you know when when Usopp is wanting to come back and and Zoro's like unless he explicitly and specifically apologizes, he can't come back and and like and you know Luff or Usopp is going through all that stuff, like oh, you know, um you can't yeah, whatever he says, and and it's like and finally he just sort of breaks down and apologizes, and then it's like was that um at water seven or was it like at the tail end of Enus Lobby? Yeah, no, realizing that that was at the tail end of Enus Lobby after they've gone back to Water Seven, my bad.

SPEAKER_05 17:58

Oh, look who's jumping in now.

SPEAKER_02 18:00

Yep, my bad, my bad.

SPEAKER_05 18:03

Yeah, you can't help it, so like bug it, right?

SPEAKER_02 18:06

Like, I mean, it is still water seven, it's just after the next arc, water seven.

SPEAKER_05 18:12

I mean, also, you know, the way I'm gonna release the review is like they're gonna all gonna be coupled together at some point, so it's like whatever.

SPEAKER_02 18:21

Yeah, and it's sort of going back to the beginning a little bit when they first land and they first meet all the shipwrights and stuff that who turn out to be you know CP9. I just I love how everyone thought what was the name, Haku? Is that the draft dude's name?

SPEAKER_05 18:38

Dang once again, these names are escaping me. There's a lot of kids that I'm trying to do.

SPEAKER_02 18:45

I'm so bad at names, but it's like the how the fact that everyone in the crew, even like Luffy was standing literally right next to Usopp, is like, hey, look at Usopp, and it's like I'm right here, bro.

SPEAKER_05 18:57

I know it's space, but I'm like D.

SPEAKER_02 18:59

He's got the long nose, but his is square where Usopp's is round, but everyone was like, Oh, it's Usopp's. Yeah, yep. And it's just like, I just I that that cracks me up every time I I'm re anytime I'm re-watching and I see that part, it's just like literally like standing next to Usopp and like, oh look, it's Usopp over there.

SPEAKER_05 19:24

I'm like, I take offense with that. I'm like, do you think I look like that? Oh, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. But yeah, I thought it was kind of crazy how he looked kind of like Usopp in a way, just with the long nose, but it was like Usopp obviously is brown and his was square. So like I just thought it was just kind of funny that that was. It almost felt like uh the CP9 could have been like this uh counter to the straw hat pirates. Like, see, that's what I kind of like to where I don't know if I said there's a whole lot on the podcast, but I like that contrast rivalry type thing going on to where once again, when we get to Egghead High Island, you'll know exactly what I'm talking about. But let me just give you another example to where I just like you know the whole Spider-Man versus Venom type thing, to where, you know, it's like the kind of bad guy or antagonist where they have a like a similar skill set to the main hero, and it's like in a way, it's like they could counter each other in a way, almost like a certain bad guy and whole kick island that we'll get to later.

SPEAKER_02 20:41

Yeah, it's it's it's yeah, that whole, you know, each everyone has that like one perfect rivalry sort of thing.

SPEAKER_05 20:51

That's what I liked about the CP9s, where it was almost like they have to come back at some point to come like nah. Their introduction was just too good, almost like they could be the kind of post that could give the uh straw hats to run for the money. Uh oh shit, I still got some

Robin’s Past And CP9 Pressure

SPEAKER_05 21:13

shit popping up on Facebook. Okay, yeah. Uh water, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh aside from moving through stuff having that going on, uh the reason why CP9 was even involved where Robin, they're trying to apprehend her and try to bring her to justice and whatnot because of some shit that she done. But bro, that backstory that Robin had. Fuck.

SPEAKER_02 21:49

Yeah, no, that oh man. Robin's Robin is probably my favorite of the crew, and just you know, learning about all the shit she's had to go through. And it's just like the way that CP9 uses that to manipulate her so precisely, it's just like damn.

SPEAKER_05 22:10

Yeah. And when she disappears, she's been implicated in an assassination tip on iceberg. The money, the mayor, keep in mind that's why this is important, to where the crew is now being framed for something that a crew member didn't do. And they're trying to understand what's Robin's motive behind what she's um doing and why she disappear, why she's saying it. Oh, sorry, I can't fuck with y'all anymore. And like, what did that person say to you that got you wanting to go back, you know?

SPEAKER_02 22:44

So, yeah, and they were all well, not all, most of them were like immediately suspicious of that. Like, what that what's going on here that you're not telling us?

SPEAKER_05 22:56

Right. I mean, do keep in mind that like Robin was the one crew member that felt like she liked the straw hats, but she also tried to keep a distance from them because you know, can't fully trust them just yet. And not that, oh, it's against them, it's more like it's more on the hedgehog dilemma where it's better off to just keep the distance because you don't want to get hurt by them, and you also don't want to get hurt yourself. Um you don't want to um excuse me, I thought that up, you don't want to hurt them either, especially with your past history, and you don't want them to get caught up in that.

SPEAKER_02 23:41

So it's like you know, all the times that she was betrayed by you know, pe by people who she thought she can trust, and so she was it, you know, became less and less able to trust, and then you know, she's trusting these people, but then you know, again, CP9 comes in and is like, well, you know, everyone betrays you in the end, blah blah blah, and you know, you always make trouble for those you care about, and it's just like oh fuck y'all, fuck y'all so bad.

SPEAKER_05 24:10

So, yeah, I do like how this leads up to what I dare say is one of my favorite arts in the entire story, but we will save that for next time. Um, honestly, this chunk of the one piece of stream review, I just didn't have a whole lot to say. I just felt like two of them was Bill Art. It was kind of fun. It was fun, but you know, it was all right. And then Warrior Seven just felt like just a warm-up to Inez lobby.

SPEAKER_02 24:44

So yeah, and like with um with water seven, like there were so many subplots and whatnot going on there. Um that is it was it was a lot to you know, a lot to get through and whatnot, because you know, there's the everyone sort of off doing their own thing. There was the whole festival going on. There was, like you said, the assassination attempt. There was it was just there was a lot going on. There was the um Aqua Laguna, I think is what it was called, right? That was coming in. And just there was just a bunch of bunch of you know, side stuff that was going on while the main stuff was happening. That's just it was a lot to you know, a lot to keep track of.

SPEAKER_05 25:28

You're feeling neat. So with that being said, yeah, I don't have a whole lot to say that probably a whole lot of people didn't already say about this chunk of the One Piece streamer view of One Piece, excuse me. But then again, I gotta constantly remind myself not a whole lot of people bother to watch One Piece because of the length. So if you know, you know.

SPEAKER_02 25:58

But um that's part of why I'm glad that they're doing that whole live action thing. So those that are intimidated by the length have the ability to basically start from the beginning and go along with it as it's coming out. So that's one thing I I have liked about the live action. I mean, I love the live action, but then it's like you know, it's also bringing more people in because people are like, oh, you know, this is a good story. Maybe, you know, maybe that thousand episodes is worth it. That thousand plus at this point is worth it.

SPEAKER_05 26:31

Yeah, we're at what? Uh 1130, I want to say that's a lot of episodes. Like be prepared to spend your whole summer in this um, dude.

SPEAKER_02 26:46

Get caught in the so it looks like the current episode is episode 1141. So yeah, no, that's that's you weren't that far off. Yeah, I wasn't. So yeah, it's that's a lot, it's a lot to get through, but it is so worth it.

SPEAKER_05 27:04

Um I fell off since Wano, like like right after Wano, like things were going on, so I didn't really like I was really reading the manga with Egghead Island. That's why I I didn't like get into wanting the anime again to where it's like okay, I read the manga a little bit, I was keeping up with but then again, once again, adulting happened, so I kind of fell off. So it's like I know bits and pieces of what happened in Egghead, but that's about it.

SPEAKER_02 27:31

But um, just say for the record, adulting sucks.

SPEAKER_01 27:38

Yeah, it gets in the way of all the fun stuff.

SPEAKER_05 27:42

I mean, that's also why I like doing this podcast, doing the 3D printing and all that, where I want to uh be able to do stuff that's fun, like you know, save up my money to go on vacations and do whatnot. Because, you know, we're only young ones, and like like I'd be telling my friends, like, bro, like enjoy your youth while you have it. Like, why are you rushing your death by rushing your age? Like, bro, like smell the flowers, go have fun, go to the beach, ride a roller coaster, something like go play laser tag or some shit, like you know, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 28:27

Just you know, something to help you live life instead of just doing life, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 28:35

Like sometimes I even struggled with nowadays to just feel like I can't just relax and play video games like I want to because I feel like dang, like I feel I could be doing more, but I'm like, nah, nah. If anything, just have a proper structure to where as long as you know that you have certain things in order, then I would say try to make time for you, in other words, just guilt-free fun, like go ahead and play that video game all night, or uh, you know, like I said, those mini examples before, like sometimes you just gotta remember that hey man, like you don't have to work every waking second of your life. Like, it's okay to just chill out and do nothing.

SPEAKER_02 29:31

Like, yep, there's more to life than just the grind.

SPEAKER_05 29:35

Yeah. That's also kind of like what I like about 3D printing to where for the most part, once you know what you need to print, you just set it and make sure that the first couple layers go up uh fine. And after that, once you make sure that the first couple layers are good, then you just walk away and you know, enjoy your first year. I mean, of course, you gotta do the post-processing, you know, sanding, painting, and whatnot, but I can always, you know, watch anime or whatever it is while I'm doing all that. So, in a way, it's like a relaxing hobby. So, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, yeah.

SPEAKER_06 30:17

You know, let's just go ahead and get up on your tomorrow.

SPEAKER_05 30:20

I do thank you for being on for this part, and when we do get to EN's lobby, I promise you, we're gonna be a lot more talk to about details.

SPEAKER_06 30:33

Because uh Yeah, that's uh 73 episodes of the last I have and a lot happens in those 73 episodes.

SPEAKER_05 30:43

I uh uh okay, yeah. Like we we definitely need to lock in for Ina's lobby. So until the next part of the One Piece stream review, you go ahead and enjoy your day, have a good morning, good evening, good after. Well, I'm talking on my own outro, but uh and fuck it. I just take it easy. Remember to stay nerdy and that great things are coming.

Enies Lobby Rescue And War Flag

SPEAKER_05 31:13

Alright, we are here in the One Piece Extreme View, where we talk about one of my favorite arts, the Emas Lobby art. So let's go ahead and zone in on it. So, Emace Lobby, this judicial island under the control of the world government, renowned for its imposing architecture and famous courthouse that delivers verdicts to those captured by the authorities. The island is a gateway to the dreaded prison in Tell Down, which we'll talk about later. And the sacred land of Marijual. Uh so it set it becomes a battleground for the Straw Hat Pirates as they strive to rescue their beloved crewmate Nico Robin from the clutches of the government. Uh, before we delve into the expat moments, let's briefly recap the resolve that propels the straw hats into perilous missions. Uh, Nico Robin, our enigmatic archaeologist with this dark path that got taken away by psychopole number nine, or cp nine as we know them. This secretive and elite government organization. Her wish to live, convey to the straw hats, ignites her determination to bring her back, no matter the cost. Now, at the heart of Eden's lobby is the CP9. Now, each member is a master of Rokushiki, uh, excuse me, a martial arts style that grants them extraordinary abilities. And including in the CP9, we have Rob Lucci, who has this uh who's a cold, loose spider, uh, epitomizing the might of the CP9 with this leopard form that grants him enhanced strength and speed, making him a formidable opponent for Luffy. We have Kaku, that's our guy, uh Long Nose. Uh he's the one who can turn into a giraffe, uh, but he can also, he's also pretty good with a sword. Uh we have Jarrah, who can turn into a wolf. Uh Blu No, who has this ability to create doors on any surfaces, provides repeated advantages, allowing him to surprise his opponents and escape uh precarious situations. Uh we have Khalifa, uh, who has soap bubble powers and deceptively powerful, allowing her to switch through defense and immobilize her enemies. Uh Kumadori with a flare of the dramatic, he combines the master of C gun with his unique life return abilities. Uh Fukuro, who has a zipper-like mouth, uh, and then they're spinning, the guy with uh the shit on his uh face, and he's got the CP9s cheat. Uh, he also wields this elephant sword uh bunk route. Now, as the Troy has arrived at Amy's lobby, they're immediately confronted by the island's guards. They split up to take on different squads and prepare for incoming CP9 agents. Uh Luki took on a whole bunch of the Marines, uh charging ahead, displaying his newfound strength and speed. Uh then we get down to the actual CP9 agents. Nami went up against Khalifa. Uh Khalifa used her double fruit power to create this slippery soap and causing trouble for Nami. But uh using the climb attack and newly learned skills, Nami counters Kalifa's technique's with weather base attacks ultimately overpowering her. Uh there's Frankie versus Fukuro. Uh Fukaro's iron body technique uh it's fairly permeable. But uh Frankie uses his cyber enhancement to match his strength, and Frankie unveils his Frankie Centaur and Stronghammer, defeating Fukuro with through force. Chopper versus Kumadori. Uh Kumidori controls his hair as a weapon to demonstrate his life-returning abilities. But in a desperate mood, Chopper consumes three rumble balls, transformed into his powerful but uncontrollable monster point to defeat Kumidori. Uh Sandi and Jabra. Uh Jabra combines the zone fruit uh powers with martial arts. Uh but Sanji activates his fiery new technique, uh Diablo Jumba, who delivering Flurry of Heather Kids to defeat Jabra. Zoro and Kaku, uh Kaku uses giraffe form and swordsmanship to uh fight Zoro, but Zoro uses three sword astra technique, overwhelming Kaku, and last but not least, we have Rob Luffy versus Rob Luki. Now, of course, Luffy uses uh leopard zone form and rookie uh Chuki to push Luffy to its limits, but Luffy uses both gear second and gear third to overpower Luffy in the crew of battle. It's also the matter of Usa uh under his uh alter ego Soga King using his shark shooting skills to assist the crew, uh as well as you know, my favorite moments shooting down that flag, waging war on them, the whole war government, and Luffy telling uh asking Rama, tell me you want to live, and all that other shit. And then after all that, once they were successful in rescuing uh Robin, they had to say goodbye to the going marry as it was just in shambles and just falling apart. It was really sad, but yeah. I know I kind of blazed through most of the events, but I just wanna make sure that we do this in a concise manner. So, Tonara, how you feeling about the Ian's lobby arc?

SPEAKER_02 36:58

It is definitely an emotional arc, that's for sure. Um, I mean, between you know, Frankie's quote to Robin, where it's like, you know, existing is not a crime, and Luffy being like, I need to hear it from you, tell me you want to live. And she has all those flashbacks and everything to all the betrayal she's been through. And and you know, because she was when we first met her, you know, in Alabasta, and she was like, I wanted to die. You have to take responsibility for me living now. And it's like, and now she does truly want to live. So she and you know, she that that moment where she just yells that out, I want to live, take me out to sea with you. I want to be with your crew, and just like, oh, and she's balling. It's like, oh my god. I just oh like I said, Robin, Robin is definitely my favorite of the crew, and it's just like oh, you know, after everything she's been through, she finally found her home, basically. She found her place once.

SPEAKER_05 38:01

I don't know what she was like exceptionally beautiful in this art.

SPEAKER_02 38:06

I don't know what well, it was based around her, so she, you know, she it was her time to shine, I guess. I don't know. But yeah, I know it's like uh and then just you know, them declaring war on the world to get her back and stuff, and just uh like this, it was just and again, with like you said, with with having to say bye to Going Mary at the end of it. It's like this is just a very emotional arc with everything going on, and also when when um Zorro and Sogate King were handcuffed together, and so gay king had to be one of Zorro's swords that part of the money. That was just hilarious. And he was like obviously terrified, but he's like, hey, hold still, you're my sword, you don't have much choice in this, and just totally wrapped around Zoro's arm holding the other swords like, oh my gosh. But yeah, no, I I definitely this was a very emotional arc, and I I loved it.

unknown 39:07

Oh man.

SPEAKER_05 39:09

Uh anybody from C C9 that stood out for you?

Fights, Power Ups, And Crew Growth

SPEAKER_02 39:15

Um obviously, you know, Bluno was hard with his his power because he could just pop up behind you and you'd be like, well, shit. Um obviously, you know, um the rob with was a huge threat and whatnot. And I know I haven't I haven't gotten there, but I've seen um pictures, I guess he and what do you say, Kaku? Haku? Yeah, at least coming back. I don't know about if the others, any of the others come back, but I've I saw like pictures of those two coming back and some of the newer stuff. Like I haven't gotten there, but I've seen pictures, so it's like it'll be interesting seeing them again and seeing what dynamic they have, you know, because they got beaten by the straw hats and stuff. But um, but overall, and I yeah, not not don't have much to say about CP9 themselves. Umji when it came to uh what's the soap girl's name again?

SPEAKER_03 40:20

Call it.

SPEAKER_02 40:21

Yeah, came to her, it's like you know, he his whole thing, you know, he does not hit women no matter what. That is just something he cannot do, no matter how much danger it brings himself. Um and so you know, Nami having to come in there and rescue his butt. But um, yeah, no, as far as CP9, I don't got much, no one particularly stood out to me personally.

SPEAKER_05 40:50

Yeah, okay, fair enough. No, I like I like um call it butt. Um I mean design-wise.

SPEAKER_02 41:01

She was a little annoying, honestly.

SPEAKER_05 41:04

Yeah, yeah. Uh outside of that, uh what we already said what we said about Katu and Luchi himself. Uh I thought it was like cool. I see my whole thing was I stand by what I say where I just like the idea of okay, here's this hero, or here's this hero team, and then you have this one villain or rival who have like not maybe not similar powers, but powers that like kind of counters the hero in a way, so it's like a good foil character. And I felt like the CP9 was like a good foil team for the straw had to go up again at the time.

SPEAKER_02 41:53

Yeah, it's like they yeah, exactly. That's like they they definitely had to you know fight harder and smarter than they had before in previous fights. It's like it it definitely tested them.

SPEAKER_05 42:08

See, that's another thing, like that's why I like Eno's law before what it is, where you can see how each of these characters have grown in a way, like, okay, let me scroll down the list. Like, okay, we already talked about Sandy, he got this new idea of a jumba uh technique with you know the flaming fist, uh uh flaming feet, excuse me. And I thought that was cool, of course. Uh Zoro have his new technique. Okay, okay, Nami doing her thing with her dad's like he's getting better at it. Uh unlike you know, she was first trying it on Alabasta, now she's getting fairly good at it.

SPEAKER_02 42:50

Yeah, that climate tact oops Usopp made, and like he definitely made some upgrades since Alabasta. But it's like, yeah, no, getting better at figuring out what all it does and how to best, you know, use it to her advantage and whatnot. That climate tack, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 43:10

And chopper, see, it was at this point that had me thinking, bro, y'all need to stop playing with Chopper because when he had those rumble balls, especially when he gets his monster point.

SPEAKER_02 43:26

Yeah, that was like dang, it's because you know, everyone all you know, he's always been marked as on the water poster as their pet. And it's like, nah, Chopper is a force to be reckoned with in his own right. He may not be, you know, at the other's level, but he's also, isn't he like the youngest? Yeah, like I know that I know they're all like surprisingly young, but it's like, yeah, no, he's he is still like he's almost basically still a kid. And it's like so it's it's it's you. Know a little bit to be expected that he wouldn't be quite up to the others' level, but he's definitely is still a force to be reckoned with, especially you know, later on once he controls stuff.

SPEAKER_05 44:11

I thought it was kind of cute when everybody's bounty got uh updated and chopper got his own bounty, but it was only 50 parries. That poor guy is just like I mean, like you said, he like he's young, he just got started. So I'm like, okay, like they didn't expect much from Chopper, but like they don't know about his monster points. So I'm like, oh wait a minute, wait a minute. Because uh he might actually be a threat. Uh if he chooses the right rumble ball.

SPEAKER_02 44:45

Exactly. It's like, yeah, I know, because it's like there's there's a lot of different, you know, ways he can change, depending, like you said, on which rumble ball he uses. Like it's yeah. Such a multi-use, um, I don't know what else to call it besides a device, but like the is because you know, if you need to run, there's one for that. If you need to, you know, be defense, there's one for that. There's it's yeah, and then obviously the monster.

SPEAKER_05 45:18

Uh Frankie had his thing going on, and Luffy, okay. I like how with when he debut gear second, gear, third, I like how it represented how he came this far and he needs to be able to be strong for his friends because even though we aren't really there yet, but it's almost like in a way where uh Luffy was coming from with him feeling a need to protect his friends, it's almost like there's some backstory behind like um Luffy, is there something you want to talk about? Like uh I feel like it goes farther back from before the straw has done got together, you know, like back when he was a kid with uh A's then Sabo, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:15

It's like, yeah, no, there's definitely there's some there's some trauma there that he's like I will never let that happen again, and then it happens like oh shit.

SPEAKER_05 46:24

Yeah, so I thought it was interesting uh how he debuted his new technique with that in mind.

SPEAKER_02 46:34

So I even like the way he has to protect my crew, like that that is non-negotiable. I have to protect them, so I will come up with these new techniques to be able to do so.

SPEAKER_05 46:47

And also, um, I did like how he was getting knocked down a lot by Luchi, but then Usopp was encouraging him. Like, keep in mind, like uh Usopp and Luki weren't exactly back on good terms. Well, not all the way, but Usopp was encouraging Luki to keep fighting, and then Luki just unleashed this barrage of gum gum fit that I kind of like the way he was animated. I just like it was like he was really like trying to slug it at um Luki. I really like that. And after all that, okay, we already talked about our favorite moments.

Saying Goodbye To Going Merry

SPEAKER_05 47:27

Like we we pretty much talked about it so much throughout the one piece of stream of you um, it just goes without saying at this point. Uh but the going married and going forward, I did like how they gave it a Viking funeral to commemorate their journey. Because keep in mind, like Usa got it from um Kaya. Yeah, Kaya, uh his friend, and it's almost like the main thing Usa made a big deal about the going marriage that not only he got from Kaya, but also he wanted to make sure that oh, if you just gonna throw away this ship, who's to say that you're not gonna throw me away? Because it's like Usopp is self-aware enough to where like he knows he's not like the strongest, you know, he doesn't have double power, he's just a regular guy with sniping abilities. So it's like he doesn't want to feel like uh Luffy's just gonna one day just throw him away if he uh exhaust his usefulness, but that's not the case.

SPEAKER_02 48:32

Nope. Yeah, it's like no, Luffy, no, that would never happen. But it's like, you know, our brains are stupid sometimes, they tell us stupid shit. And his was saying, what if this if he's willing to throw away this basically crewmate, especially since uh you know, in the Skypia, we see that it has a consciousness, and again when it comes that was crazy, but like yeah, and then you know, when it it shows up there in this lobby with all the Buster Call stuff coming, and it's like it got there on its own. Like it's it's it's a sentient chip, like it is, but it's like, yeah, no, at that point it's yeah, so I it's like brains are stupid, they tell us stupid shit, and it's hard not to listen to it.

SPEAKER_05 49:22

Understandable, but uh what I did like was the part where okay, like everything's said and done, but like Lupe and Usa still need to like figure out what's going on. So Luffy was like, all right, so check this out. I'm gonna leave you here, and I'm gonna uh give you until we get out of eyesight to uh apologize uh for all that shit you did. And then Usa like it took him a minute, but Usa was um bowling his eyes like out saying, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And then Luffy was like, All right, bet so extend his hand down, all right. Come on.

SPEAKER_02 50:07

Yeah, and like and it's like and you know, Luffy wanted to give in. He's like, he's he's our crewmate, you know.

SPEAKER_03 50:12

We and Zoro's like we bring play.

SPEAKER_02 50:14

I'm like, come on, yeah, it's like it's like Zoro's like, you cannot bring him back unless he apologizes, he specifically apologizes. None of this this bull crap about oh, you know, you can't leave me behind. Oh, you need me. Ha ha ha. It's like no. Zoro's like, no, if he doesn't apologize, he does not come back, and you as the captain cannot allow him to come back unless he apologizes. And just like it was harsh, but it's like, yeah, no, especially in something like a pirate crew, you need to be able to trust your crew. And it's like, if he was, you know, he was talking about if he's willing to leave over this, then what he's to say, he won't at some point when we need him, leave again.

SPEAKER_05 51:01

It's like in the last part, like if you waver now, uh, who can you trust?

SPEAKER_02 51:07

Exactly. Yep, it's just like, yeah, it's it's it's harsh, but that's how it had to be, you know. You have to be able to fully trust those that you are fighting alongside.

SPEAKER_05 51:25

Yeah, like it just be like that. Like, I mean, not to uh not to feel nothing forward to going marry, but sometimes it just feels like that to where uh hell, like I'm thinking to myself how I got vehicles and machinery, you know, 3D printed machinery, where I'm like, I might have to uh let that stuff go. Uh, even though like yeah, I have fond memories of and whatnot. But you know, sometimes you gotta uh take out what uh the old and bring in the new. Yeah. It'd just be like that sometimes.

SPEAKER_02 52:06

And it's like it's I mean, and that's yeah, like they literally the going Mary would not have made it to the next island, it would have, you know, sunk, taking them all with it. And you know, there's the at this point just the three um devil fruit users, and it's like, and this the you know, the grand line is the sea is dangerous. There's you know, the sea kings, there's all all sorts of things that even if those that didn't have devil fruit were able to hold up the devil fruit users to keep from drowning, they probably would have get gotten eaten. So, and that would have been the end of the house. Wait, hold on.

SPEAKER_05 52:45

You know, I didn't I think you can miscount because there's four. Because I mean, think about it, like okay, it's Luffy, obviously.

SPEAKER_02 52:54

Then there's fucking um Chopper Chopper then and Robin that's all that's all we have at this point, isn't it?

SPEAKER_05 53:06

Yeah, yeah. No, no, no, my bad.

SPEAKER_02 53:08

Uh I was thinking the next one comes in like the next arc.

SPEAKER_05 53:14

Right, right. That's why I was thinking, like, shit.

SPEAKER_02 53:17

Yeah, no, at this point, it's just the three. So it's like, yeah, even if the others that didn't have Devil for Powers were able to keep the the heads of the other three up, like there's is there's still other stuff in the water that you know could eat them or whatever. So it's like if they you know, if if they had taken the going Mary and it had sunk, boom, end of adventure. It's like it's like it's it's again it's sad because you know Mary was part of the crew, but it was a necessary thing. She just couldn't take them any further, right?

SPEAKER_00 53:56

So, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 53:58

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 54:01

Oh dang.

SPEAKER_04 54:04

I mean hold up.

SPEAKER_02 54:06

Oh wait, no, are we so are we also gonna be doing like the when they're back at water seven before they move on? Or is that next next time?

SPEAKER_05 54:18

Yeah, we'll save that for next time.

SPEAKER_02 54:20

Okay, I was just saying, because there's some parts in that part where it's like, yeah, I wanna, but if they're worth saving it for next time, I will wait.

SPEAKER_05 54:26

Yeah, we'll save that for next time. But yeah, I was thinking, you know what? As much as I love this art, I just feel like I foreshadowed talking about this art um for so long, it just feels like, you know what? Uh that's all I really have to say. Like, I thought it was really solid art. Like, I give it a 10 out of 10, honestly. Like, it just had a lot of action and emotional weight to it. So that's why I say that if anybody is getting into One Piece, yes, I understand it's gonna be kind of a journey. But I'm telling you, by the time you get to Enough's lobby, as soon as you quit Enough's lobby, I'm just gonna bet that's when you lock in because that's when Enz Lobby kind of set the stage on what you can expect going forward. Like, yeah, the other part of the great is just that with Enough's lobby, it's like it just lets you know where the characters are going, what direction uh the characters are going as far as the straw hat pirates and the relationship that they have so far. Like it just kind of solidifies a bunch of things at that point.

SPEAKER_00 55:46

Yeah, like it's it's definitely shit starts happening after this for sure. Starts happening fast.

SPEAKER_05 55:53

Yeah, yeah. But you know what? Until next time, we're gonna talk about them returning to water seven, and then we're gonna talk about thriller bark. That's gonna be the next installment, and then after that, what we're gonna do is we're gonna slam Sabbati, Amazon Lily, and Impel Down into one because to be fair, like all three of them separately, it's not very long. But together, I'm like okay, that's enough for one part. But uh, yeah, next part will be return to border seven and thriller bar. And yeah, honestly, Brooke is the only thing I'm looking forward to with uh thriller bar because like I'm I'm gonna be honest with you, Brooke is like one of my top three favorites draw hats because I just like this dude. And I'll explain why when we get there, but uh Tanara, you got anything else you want to add on at all before we move forward?

SPEAKER_02 56:55

No, like I said, if we're waiting on that, them returning to water seven, then I'll wait on the other stuff. And it's like I've said about well, I mean, except for you know, when the like I said, the going Mary shows up and they're all like, you know, that whole cry of jump to the sea, jump to the sea, and they all just are it's just like oh that part, like right before, right when they're leaving and stuff and the buster calls coming, but yeah, no, other than that, it's like yeah, no, said pretty much what I need to about this one. Is it like you said, like you said, 10 out of 10 arc, it was definitely very emotional.

SPEAKER_05 57:34

Oh yeah, all right, until the next part. Stay tuned for more, and we're gonna go ahead and zone out of here.

Thriller Bark Highlights And Brooke

SPEAKER_05 57:46

All right, continuing the one piece of stream review. We just got through with the whole water seven enus lobby arc, and we're now gonna transition into thriller bark, but just to save time, we're just gonna go play through thriller bark, saladi, amazon lily, then impel down, and that'll be it for this part of the extreme review. Uh Tenara, once again, glad to have you on for this review. So let's go ahead and zone in on it. So post water seven.

SPEAKER_03 58:28

What happened again?

SPEAKER_02 58:31

Well, um the you know, they had the the Viking funeral for Mary. Right. Um, Frankie and Co. built the new ship and then was like, oh, I can't come along until some uh not so gentle persuasion from Nico Robin. And um I I know last time we talked about Usopp, but that yeah, that happened then as well. Um like right as they were leaving and whatnot. Um, and they were being because they were being chased out despite, you know, the townspeople being like, yo, not cool, but they're you know, they are still wanted pirates, so the navy's gotta do their job. So um, but yeah, no, that was about it for the at still at water seven, post-water seven was just those few things.

SPEAKER_05 59:23

Okay, bad, bad, all right, all right. So we did touch on a couple of those things, just that we just didn't really touch on Frankie building the Thousand Sunny. All right, all right, that's the one that we need to do.

SPEAKER_02 59:34

Because that you know, his his goal was to build a ship. You know, they all have their their special goals. His was to build a ship that can go around the world.

unknown 59:42

Okay.

SPEAKER_05 59:42

So far, it's doing well.

SPEAKER_02 59:45

Yep, yep. So far, hopefully it's no bar.

SPEAKER_05 59:51

All right. Um, if that's it, then let's go ahead and slide into thriller bark. Uh, thriller bark is known for the spooky atmosphere and horror theme aesthetics. This art introduces a massive floating island known as Thriller Bark, which is captained by none other than the warlord of the sea, Gekka Moria. Now, Gekka Moria is a shadow-manipulating pirate with uh Kage Kage no me ability, allowing him to control shadows. Uh, I would say his personality is like the lazy type that's like too reliant on his underlings. Speaking of underlings, Perona, known as the Ghost Princess, has the power of the horror horror no me, which allows her to produce ghosts that induce depression and negativity. She's playful, yet she has a haunting demeanor, you know what I mean. Uh, we also get introduced to two characters who honestly I like. I like these two characters here. Now, first of all, the obvious Brooke himself, the walking, talking skeleton with a love of music, a gentleman with the powers of the Yomi Yomi no me, which brought him back to life after death. Uh, his humorous and lively personality quickly endears him to the crew, and he kind of endeared me too because oh Tenora, that laugh. I fucking love that laugh.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:16

Yeah, he's got a great laugh. It's like, I still every time I remember him first coming to the ship after Luffy invited him and the rest of them being like everyone freaking out like this is a living skeleton. What are you talking about? And then it's like it didn't take long for him to win them over with between the music and just that and laugh and just his his goofy personality.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:38

Right. And the other character that I'm speaking of, well, he's not really a new character, but his role got expanded here, and I mean Bartholomew Kuma. Now, pay attention to that name because uh that's gonna uh ring a lot of bells as we go forward in this extreme review. But uh, as a pacifista, he possessed the power of a nikunukinomi, which is to allow him to repel anything, including pain and fatigue. And the the thing is the main thing is that the crew battles against various ghoulish creatures and Moria's subordinates. Uh Luffy showed down with Moria, where he uses gear second and third to combat their shadow stealing adversary. Uh, we have Zoro versus Ryuma, who is the samurai, and they battle to test their swordsmanship, and Zoro emerges victorious and gains Ryuma's sword. Uh shoot uh shoot sweet, excuse me. And then there's also like this nightmare version of Luffy, where he temporarily gains this immense strength after absorbing a hundred shadows, and he's like this zombified version while he's fighting Moria. Honestly, aside from Broke being introduced, I hold on, hold on, wait a minute. I did like that Usa versus Perona fight. That was funny. That was funny to me.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:01

That was a good one. That was a good one. He's like, You're a negative, he can't affect me. I'm already negative.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:07

Yeah, I was like, bro, what are you doing against that? I was like, well, shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:11

Like, yeah, and she was so confused because she's not used to her power not working on anyone. He's like, ha ha ha, I got you now.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:18

Doesn't that remind me of someone that we're gonna talk about later?

SPEAKER_02 1:03:23

Yeah, yep, but yeah, no, that that's that fight was great, and that the the the uh what was it, hundred-ton hammer and stuff? Right, classic, classic Usopp move there. Um but yeah, I know, and I I gotta be honest, I totally forgot that Kuma showed up in this arc. I know because I know him um that scene with Zorro, I just forgot that it was Kuma that did that. But yeah, no, I we definitely see a lot more of him later on, and it's like it gets sad, it gets sad.

SPEAKER_05 1:03:57

Yeah, it's like I don't know how to feel about Kuma anymore. I mean, is it is in a good way, but it's like his backstory, especially when you it gets depended upon in Egghead Island. I know we're jumping here, but I'm not gonna spoil anything. Point being it's like, god damn, he went through it. Yeah, like I know we say that a lot about all these characters, but Kuma.

unknown 1:04:21

God damn.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:22

I mean, even just after that, the time skip, we see some of what's you know happened to him, and it's just like it's like, oh, this poor dude, he's trying so hard, and just yeah. Uh but but yeah, no, I just um yeah, so I I totally forgot he was in here. And yeah, I I I agree. I I like him as well. Um, but yeah, things definitely get complicated with him later on. So um there's also that that lion guy that can turn invisible and is always creeping on Nami and stuff, and that that whole marriage scene and Sanji trying to be probably love and I don't remember his name. Yeah, I and I know he showed up at like another point. We see him again, just sort of almost like a background sort of character, but it's like, oh look, it's it's him again. Hmm. But yeah, but yeah, just like all the zombies and stuff they gotta fight against, or the the you know, quote unquote zombies, but they're just the the people that you know who I'm not oh my goodness, Moria um put shadows into them to make them into like zombies and stuff. And the first time Luffy sees the one popping out of the ground, he just walks up and Yosh Yosh, pushing him back down into the ground. It's like that's how you fight zombies, uh huh. But yeah, no, and then like the whole like going through the forest and stuff where the trees and whatnot have had shadows put him into them as well. It's like that's you know it's creepy.

SPEAKER_05 1:05:58

You know, I guess that's what it was that. Even though there was like some development, like well, we got introduced to Brooke, like I said, time down. But I'm just saying, like, outside of that, filler board just played out like a filler. So that's why I just feel like I wasn't really feeling this.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:17

Yeah, it it I mean, obviously, there's some important stuff that happens. Um, you know, we meet Brooke, there's the Ryuma stuff that we learn more about later on and whatnot. And it's like there there is some stuff, but for the most part, yeah, it feels pretty filler-ish. I mean, it's it's still a good arc. I definitely wouldn't, you know, just skip it. Um, but it's not one of the stronger arcs, I don't think.

SPEAKER_05 1:06:41

Right, that's really it's like kind of a little dip in the sauce as far as I'm concerned, but like, anyway.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:49

Yeah, especially, especially after you know, water seven and and and its lobby, it's like, yeah, it's hard to follow that up, so but the next arc, oh my god, it changes things.

Sabaody Punch And Total Collapse

SPEAKER_05 1:07:06

Salvador Archipelago. Now, this is a turning point in the series where it's filled with high stakes and heart-wrenching moments. The crew arrives to the archipelago, a group of mangrove trees to prepare for uh their journey to the new world. They get introduced to characters like Silver Braille, who was a former first mate of Goldie Roger of the Roger Pirates, a wise and powerful mentor figure with immense hockey abilities. Uh, the way he was able to counter uh who was it that? Uh it was it Kisiru? Yeah, it was Kisiru. Uh I I thought he was just very interesting from the jump. And we get introduced to two new kids. Well, actually, we get introduced to the worst generation. Like, we get introduced to uh Travis Gall D. Law, uh, Eustace Kidd, uh Bonnery, uh, a whole bunch of others that um we're gonna see from time to time um every now and then. But uh this is like the introduction to the worst generation, and I kind of like where it was going for the most part, but we're gonna talk about each of them as they have a more uh important role later down the line. It's just more like right now we're just being introduced to them. Now there's the human auction house where the encounter with the cruelty of the human auction ignites Luffy's rage, uh leading to a confrontation with the celestial dragons. Fuck the celestial dragons.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:34

Yup, yup that that scene, oh man, that's gotta be one of my favorites just because fuck the celestial dragons.

SPEAKER_05 1:08:42

Oh my goddamn. And then uh Kizeru did arrive, and uh Admiral Kizeru uh brings a new level of threat as his life-based powers prove overwhelming for the throw as well, you know, uh Rayleigh was able to like keep up with him, whatnot. And then that's when Bartholomew Kuma shows up again, and in this heart-wrenching moment, like bro, it was even worse when you see the manga um panel for when one by one, Tumo is just teleporting each other, straw heads accrued to different parts of the new world. And it's like, okay, everybody's gonna have like their own training art for the most part. But at that moment, I'm like, I was really feeling for Luffy, like that was like the first time he really took an L. Like he he lost all his friends, and like all this in pursuit to uh find Ace, because you know his uh light paper is like running um short, so he's trying to find him too. So it's like fuck. And then next thing you know, he gets transported elsewhere.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:51

But just oh that that was all that was heartbreaking. Like it was just because they didn't know that he that he had you know those transportation power or trans whatever um powers, like they they he just thought they were just gone, like he didn't know if they were killed, he had no idea, and just having to watch his crew one by one just disappear as they're you know, they're especially like when Nami was like calling him in it's like oh god, it's just like they're all you know trying to get to each other, and they're just being, you know, we know they're being teleported, not that's the words, they're not not transported, teleported. Um we know they're being teleported, but they had no way of knowing that they didn't know what Kluma's powers were and whatnot, and it's just like and just the as more and more of the crew just disappears and Luffy's just losing it, like these these have become his family, and it's like I mean, because he already, you know, he had lost some family already before, and he was like, I oh, and just I tr not try not to jump you know ahead or anything, but that that scene with Luffy and Rayleigh when it's like um he's like I never want to be so weak that I lose my my friends again, and it's just like oh that whole yeah, because it's like they're all freaking out because none, you know, who was the first one to go? Um wasn't it uh Zorro?

SPEAKER_05 1:11:32

Yeah, it was probably and then it's just I know Robin was last if you were, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:38

Well, no, was it Robin or was it nominated? Robin was last. She was okay. Um, but yeah, it's like the just that moment of as soon as the first one was gone, like, hold up, what what was that? Where where did they go? What is going on?

SPEAKER_05 1:11:55

And just that panic and just oh god, yeah, bubbles popping, like that's gone living um One Piece band's heads rent-free.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:05

Yep, yeah, no, we'll never be able to hear that sound the same again. It's like, oh yeah, and then just uh yeah, and then that's just it after after Luffy gets sent off. It's like just black, and it's just like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 1:12:25

Honestly, not to make a heart-wrenching moment like too funny because you know, not to make light of it, but it's like uh it's like a meme moment where somewhere I feel disturbance and forth almost like one of my friends just decided to ghost me, but I can't prove it. And you just hear that bubble pop into this all like, yep, I think I'm being ghosted. Oh man, I might start the dose from my dexterous.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:57

Like, yeah, it's like, and um, you do you know Epic the Musical? Have you listened to Epic the Musical at all? Uh I haven't. Okay. Well, there's this one part where it's it's based on the Odyssey, and um Odysseus is you know beating the shit out of Poseidon, and just some of the lyrics just very much um make me think of this one. It's just like he's like, um, how does it feel to feel helpless? How does it feel to know pain? I watched my friends die in horror watching as they were all slain. Um, I heard their final moments calling their captain in vain, and it's just like that. Like I said, you know, when when he was going after Nami and she's like calling for Luffy, it's just like, oh my god.

SPEAKER_05 1:13:41

And that was the thing is like they they were going up against someone that they just could not handle. So Luffy was like, fuck, like the only thing we can do is run, but that made it worse.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:51

Yep, yeah, and it's like, and because I mean he's a Kuma's huge, but that doesn't mean he's slow, he he can move, like it's and it's just the uh yeah, but yeah, no, just that whole that line, you know, calling their captain in vain. It's like because it's like there's nothing Luffy could have done, even if he, you know, even if they knew what was going on, they still at this point were not strong enough to do anything about it. So it's just like uh yeah, yeah. But I also um jumping back a little a little bit just to the um the human auction house, you know, after Luffy punches the celestial dragon and whatnot, and um uh law, kid, and Luffy are all coming out and are you know being like, I'm gonna be the first one to beat him up and stuff like the the because the obviously the marines are c are congregating outside and stuff. I've always loved the dynamic of those three, having like that being that that rivalry sort of thing, and being like, No, it's I'm I'm gonna be the first one to be take them out. I'm gonna take that the most, blah blah blah. It's just like I've always liked the dynamic of those three. And even in like some of the newer arcs, it's like it's just it's fun to see.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:14

Oh definitely. It's like it kind of reminds me of going back to Naruto, like part one, where they're taking the tuning exams, and um everybody just like uh Naruto and Sakura, Saska get introduced to well, not really introduced, but more like we're introduced to um the rest of the rookie nine, and and there's also the um upperclassmen, so to speak, you know, Nancy Brockley, Tinder.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:40

Yeah, I haven't seen Naruto in a long time, but yeah, I do remember that when um there it's yeah, they just have the same sort of situation there too.

SPEAKER_05 1:15:51

Yeah, it's like a friendly rivalry in a way, so it's like it's not no venom.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:57

I mean, I'm not sure I'd really call it necessarily friendly, um, at least not with the you know, law kid and Luffy, but well Luffy would probably look at it that way, you know. Well, yeah, and I mean, because he sees you know um alliances different. I mean, we as we will find out in the um punk hazard, it's like yeah, no, Luffy has a bit different definition than anyone else.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:25

Right. But uh let's see.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:29

But yeah, I think that's about it for Sabody.

unknown 1:16:32

Oh.

SPEAKER_05 1:16:33

Uh yep. Other than news breaking out that Ace is set to be executed, uh signaling the impending war with White Beats Force, it was gonna be uh foreshadowed towards a paramount war that we're gonna talk about later.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:45

I thought that didn't we didn't find out about that till they were on Amazon Lily, which I think was where obviously uh that's where Luffy gets sent. Um he was there for a while, wasn't he? Before he found that out.

SPEAKER_05 1:17:00

I think to be fair, because Amazon Lily's like right next to it, so it's like Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:09

Yeah, but I was just like, oh, because I I I know the because I know when when the execution stuff's happening, like they they broadcast it on Sabody, but I I think the the newspaper doesn't happen till after they've been sent out, and uh you know we because I know there's like a bit of a gap there um before um between when because they they fly they have to fly quite a way so um but yeah because then yeah, so we get to Amazon Lily and that one that one had a lot of humorous moments in it as well, right?

Amazon Lily And Hancock’s Switch

SPEAKER_05 1:17:54

Uh Amazon Lily, the island of women. By the way, I'm gonna circle back to that news report. Um, but let's talk about Amazon Lily while I'm looking. Uh Amazon Lily, I I don't have a whole lot to say about it other than uh Luffy lands on this island that's inhabited solely by women. Uh then we get introduced to Boa Hancock, one of the uh warlords of the sea, the pirate empress, uh, both beautiful and formidable with the mirror marinomi, uh allowing her to turn people to stone. And she can also like charm them into whatnot. But her trope exterior has a tender heart when she reveals that she fought for Luffy. Uh when she when Luffy gets to his island, like first of all, they were like kind of surprised that oh shit, the man, he got man bits down there, and try to get him in that flowery um outfit that they got him, and then one thing leading to another, like Boa had to uh show uh Luffy that um she ain't playing with him or some some type of shit. So she petrified like three, I think it was like, I think it was two or three of her own people.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:13

Yeah, I think there were three of them that help that were sort of helping Luffy.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:17

Yeah, they were helping Luffy, and she decided to make an example out of them by turning them into stone, and then she gave him an ultimatum that lives in my head rent-free, to where, okay, here's the deal. You can either leave the island now and go on to your friends and to your brother and whatnot.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:37

I mean, I know she didn't say all of that, but I'm just saying, uh, you can leave the island now, like she was saying, you know, we will give you a ship. Yeah, we'll give you a it's like we'll give you a ship and make sure you leave this island safely and whatnot.

SPEAKER_05 1:19:51

Or you stay on this island forever, and I'll let the women go. And then I like how uh before Luffy gave his answer, she had like this inner monologue, like, that's right, male. Uh go ahead, run along, jump off the island.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:09

You men are all the same, you all care about yourself, and then next thing she's like, you know, show me show me who you really are, and then he he does, but it's just not just what just not what she was expecting. Like, uh, you're yeah, so I I agree with you. Like that lives, uh, that scene is just like she was like so sure that he was gonna choose to, you know, be able to leave and you know basically save himself.

SPEAKER_05 1:20:36

But he's like man was like, so if I stay, you'll let them go, right? I was like, Yeah, then I'll say just like that. I'm like, just like that. No hesitation either. I'm like, just like that.

SPEAKER_02 1:20:50

Mm-hmm. He was like, Oh, that's great, you know, that's they'll they'll be able to be back to normal and stuff. And she just like, what? Like, yeah, no, it's like just showing me.

SPEAKER_06 1:21:02

Like he selfishly threw away his chance to leave the island forever for three women that he just met. I'm like, oh my god, I've never met a male. What are these feelings that I'm feeling right now?

SPEAKER_02 1:21:16

Yeah, yeah, and then she gets obsessive, and it's just like, honey, honey child, no.

SPEAKER_04 1:21:24

But yeah, uh-huh.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:28

And every little thing she turns into, oh, you know, that that means it's just like, oh god. Boa uh, I know you're sheltered, but good lord.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:39

Next thing you know, it's like, okay, you know what, since I was such a perfect anti with zero hesitation, you can go ahead and go. We'll just go like, yeah, we'll let him go. You can go. Like, uh, I hope you visit sometime though, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:54

Well, and then there was the then there was the fight that he had to do while protecting the three that were that were petrified and stuff. And the the one sister's you know, her her shirt started burning and they were freaking out because he had overheard about um oh, that was why this happened in the first place, was because he saw Boa's back. I forgot. That was what that was why they were in the arena in the first place, because she was like, You've seen my secret, now you have to die. And Luffy remembered how much she freaked out over him seeing her back, and so you know, when the sister's um top caught fire and started burning away, about to expose the the uh the um what's the word, the the brand on her back, he wrapped himself around her back to block that all the all the residents from seeing that because he remembered how much they were freaking out about it and obviously how big of a deal it was to them. And it's like, and you know, the sister's like, get off my back, what are you doing? And Boa and the other sister were like, No, you you we we have to call this off because they were like he can't get off your back, he needs to stay right where he is, and just uh, and then finding out the backstory as to why they had those brands and stuff and what happened, and just like, oh man, it's like Luffy he had no idea, but he knew that it was important to them that no one saw, and so he just took action and just was like, Oh, Luffy is just a great person, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:23:29

Oh, right away. Uh circling back to that news break, it happened during the human auction where it was like, Okay, the straw has um discovered that their mermaid friend was gonna get sold off, and while they were dealing with that, the rest of the Archibald got the news that uh okay, so I I f I had forgotten about that.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:50

I thought it was it was until okay, so it was just that was when the rest of the crew that was.

SPEAKER_06 1:23:57

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:23:58

Yeah, okay. See, I didn't I totally did not realize that. So yeah, so yeah, so though it's that that news article, and everyone just yeah, being like, because that you know, that was a huge frickin' deal, was that you know, to because he um Blackbeard did that to become one of the Shichibukai, didn't he?

SPEAKER_03 1:24:18

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:19

So yeah, so it's like you know, and just and the fact that Ace was one of the commanders of Whitebeard's crew was a huge fucking deal. And so, yeah, people were just like, oh my god, what is this gonna mean for the rest of the world?

SPEAKER_05 1:24:36

He's rubbing his hand like Birdman, but you'll get you we'll understand that once we get to the Paramount War.

SPEAKER_02 1:24:42

Yeah, oh god, I'm gonna yeah, yep.

SPEAKER_05 1:24:47

But uh, was there anything else about Amazon Lily that you wanted to talk about?

SPEAKER_02 1:24:52

No, I think that's about it. I mean, because you touched on the whole thing of all the women having never seen a man before, being like, what's that there? And Luffy's being like, That's the family jewels. Oh, there's jewels in there? Let us see.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:02

Like, no, uh, it doesn't work like that. Nope.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:07

So, but yeah, nope, that's that's about it for Amazon Lily. Um, because then it's just it's um Boa having to sneak him off the island and stuff, and and that with under the eye of the navy and stuff, and that that was just that that whole bit was that was funny.

SPEAKER_05 1:25:27

There's one more thing. Uh the most interesting part about this art is for the first well, I don't know if it's like the first time, but this like the first clear time that he has it. This is the first time Luffy demonstrates that he has conquerors hockey.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:45

Yeah, yep, because he he does it there in the arena, because the one the one the one of the sisters was about to smash one of the statues, and he was like, Stop it, and did the conquerors hockey and just knocked, you know, a bunch of people out. And yeah, and it was able to save the this the uh petrified girl um from smashing because they had said, you know, if they are smashed while they're in, you know, petrified, once they come back, they're gonna they're still gonna be smashed. And it's like so yeah, that that's right. That was the first time, pretty sure that was the first time he ever really. I mean, I'm sure there were other little times, but that was the first time.

SPEAKER_05 1:26:28

Yeah, yeah, that's the thing because we know One Piece has gonna be uh, oh well, as we do like foreshadowed way back then, blah blah blah. Yeah, I'm like, okay, buddy, calm down. We know you're a big fan of the show.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:41

It's like that's yes, that's true, but this was the first major time we see it.

SPEAKER_04 1:26:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:48

So but yeah, so but yeah, though, and then just you know, cause that because you know, when they found out about Ace and the the government was calling all the Shichi Bukai together to for this upcoming what they knew was gonna be a war. Um, it's like so yeah, so they came to get bone, that's how they got Luffy off the island. Was he was just like wrapped around her legs under her dress to sneak him out and whatnot. And um that whole thing was the on the whole time on that ship was just like, oh my god. Yeah, that was that was just yeah. And then they get to she she tells, you know, the ship, hey, you know, I want I want to see the prisoner before we head to to um the the pair to the the what's what's the name of the place? Impel no, that's the the prison, the name of the where they were gonna do the execution. I don't remember I mean because that's a s that's a major plot place. Like I can't remember why can I not remember?

SPEAKER_05 1:27:56

It's the same place where Bobby Rogers.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:00

Want to see the prisoner before we go on to there, and that's you know, she leaves Luffy there and all the shenanigans and stuff between, but yeah, so that's I I forgot that was how they had gotten him into Impel Down to get to Ace.

SPEAKER_05 1:28:15

Right. Yeah, that's what it was. Like, she was going to help him uh get to Ace um by breaking him out of Impel Down. So let's go ahead and uh slide into that art.

Impel Down Breakout And Bon Clay

SPEAKER_05 1:28:28

So, like we said, Impel Down, high-stakes prison break art where Luffy's trying to infiltrate the infamous uh underwater prison to rescue his brother. So we get introduced to uh Warden Magellan, who's this formidable warden. He had to power up the Doku Doki uh me, which is granting him control over poison. And he's got this stern demeanor and overwhelming force, making my daunting adversary. And honestly, I I'm like, I don't really dislike Magellan because I'm like, first of all, like you know, being the warden, he's just doing the job. And outside of that, I'm like, he's not even a bad guy.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:06

Like, he's really not, he isn't, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:09

Yeah, and then we get to introduce to uh well, first of all, we get reintroduced to Bon Clay, uh Mr. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:29:19

Uh love Bong Clay.

SPEAKER_00 1:29:22

I'm still mean.

SPEAKER_05 1:29:23

He kind of carries a little bit in this uh art, but another character that we get introduced to is Emporio Abakov, the revolutionary. The revolutionary with the power of the horn horn fruit. The Avakoff can manipulate hormones to achieve various effects. He got this flamboyant and charismatic personality shining through the chaos. And I'm like, I don't I think his design is kind of funny. He kind of reminds me of Ichia a little bit from all fairy tales to where it's like he got like this unconventional character design where you just kind of didn't expect it at first, but it kind of grows on you over time.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:05

Yeah, yeah, I love Ivachan.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:14

I love when uh to I obviously this is a bit Pat, you know. You know, I'll I'll wait to say that because it's like we gotta go back to actually talk to about um what goes on before he gets taken to to them.

SPEAKER_05 1:30:29

Like we can do it now, like so uh let me see if I get over here. So Luffy tries to gain entry uh into this uh prison. Like I don't remember everything I do, apologize about that, but I do remember this much. Uh, when he tries to gain entry into this uh prison, which impressed uh Hancock, he got in there just all right, come on in. I'm like, what really? I'm like, yeah, he's like a really good person, so sure, why not? I don't think he's gonna be up to anything nefarious, so come on in.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:17

Yeah, but yeah, it's like you know, because um uh Bon Clay finds him, you know, frozen and whatever look there was you know, is the all the different levels, and each level has its own, you know, basic tor basically torture thing, and um Luffy gets down to the level the like the frozen level with the wolves and stuff, and is just between the um the the frostbite and the poison is just not doing well, and just like passes out, and then Bon Clay finds him and brings him to the whatever point five level where they've all made their home sort of situation.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:02

Um yeah, uh two characters that comes back into the picture while all this is happening. Uh we also got crocodile and buggy the clown in the mix.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:23

Oh my god, I forgot, yeah. I forgot about them because they they were with the escape crew after they're getting out of there.

SPEAKER_05 1:32:30

Yeah, that's very and the crazy part is like you're used to the dynamic of the throwhead crew, but when we were seeing all these other characters with devil proof powers using them balancing off their powers the way that they did, it's like kind of interesting to where it's like okay, it's like a what if situation, like uh Marble's what if, like what if uh they were part of his crew.

SPEAKER_02 1:32:57

Yup, and it's like they're all you know, especially Buggy. It's like, oh yeah, no, I'm in charge. It's like Buggy, sit down, buddy.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:05

Oh, wait, we get introduced to Siriu and Jinbei in this one too, where like, oh yeah, uh Jinbei, uh helping breakout. So I'm like, all right, uh, I appreciate that. Like, I owe you one.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:17

Yeah, because he he refused to take part in in the execution of Ace. So he they locked him up. I forgot, yeah. That's true. Because he refused because he was he was a Chichi Bukai, but he refused to take part, so they took away his title and um and locked him up just to keep him out of the way, basically. That's right, yeah. I'm just because I I'm just trying to think, because there's also the candle guy, number, number three or whatever.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:48

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:49

Um Mr.

SPEAKER_05 1:33:50

Three.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:50

Yeah, Mr. Three, my bad. Um I'm just trying to think of you know, from the the the scene where they're falling with the ship. I'm trying to think of who all it was that was that was commenting and stuff. And it's like, oh yeah, there was there was Mr. Three, there was there was Crocodile, um Eva was there um when they're falling, um, and all that. So yeah, so it's like there they're we got quite a few players in this in this arc heading towards that war.

SPEAKER_05 1:34:26

Well, yeah, but here's the funny thing about that. Like Ace's role as a plot to fight, uh he's serving at this intersection for the Navy, the revolutionaries, and the White Beard Pirates, uh, and revealing new information about them. Uh, along not only that, but as Luffy trying to break out of the prison. Crazy enough, like he got in there to save Ace, but he was already on getting released out of Impel Down. So now it's more like, oh, well, well, he he didn't know about it, but it was like, oh, well, shit. Uh, if he's already out then, I might as well just go on out myself. And while and while Luffy and the rest of them uh were trying to escape and whatnot, uh using this stunning masterclass of uh teamwork and command commandeering ships and uh Jim Bay summoning whale sharks, uh Bon Clay, the MVP, uh to allow Luffy and the other to escape.

SPEAKER_02 1:35:31

Oh my god. Yep, and I still hate that scene so much because it's like no, it's like because you know, um, even though they were enemies before, before they knew they were enemies, Luffy and and Bon got together got along so well and they couldn't.

SPEAKER_05 1:35:48

Like at first, they didn't even know, like going back to uh freeze art to where at the time they didn't know that he was gonna be an enemy, but they bonded with him anyway. Then they find out he was an enemy. It's like, oh you know, after all the alabasis, like I guess we're cool now.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:08

Yeah, and it's like the only reason they found out in the first place was because when he was showing off, you know, what faces he had collected, um, cobras came up and Vivi was like, oh shit, this is one of this is one of them. And it's like that's the only reason they even knew in the first place. But yeah, no, and then you know, during their time in Impel Down, Luffy and Von Clay still had that bond and were, you know, they were friends, and so it's like, oh my god, yeah, when when he revealed that he stayed behind to open the gates to let them out, it was like, oh my god, why?

SPEAKER_05 1:36:44

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:45

Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:48

It's funny how you mentioned Blackbeard earlier because now he's re-emerging uh finding out that he had the ability to sense hockey. So now it's like it's hinting at a world-shaking event, which you know, we know um Marine Four Paramount War, whatnot. But it's like, yeah, it's like the chest pieces are all coming together to where I'm like, oh shit.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:13

Yeah. And um, just going back just a little bit to when they're you know, in the I don't remember what, because the the new comma was the island, but that it was like the they called it something like that, the their little safe haven within the prison. And um, when they were there and Luffy revealed who his dad was, and he was like, Oh, um, because Eva was telling about the revolutionaries and stuff, and said, Oh yeah, Dragon um is our is our great and wonderful leader, and Luffy's like, uh, just casually, just ah, that's my dad. And and Eva's like, yes, it's he's your dad, and then just that slowly just processing, like you can see the gears turning in Eva's head, like, and then he just freaks out and goes, He's who like that was that one that always makes me laugh, just that that revelation and just it not even registering at first until like a couple seconds later, and he's like it's just like, how can he never tell me, you know? I'm his I'm his second in command. How can he not tell me? It's just like it's just yeah, that that part always gets me there with with just yeah, but but yeah, no, um, back to you know, Bong plays sacrifice, it's just like oh, it's just heart-wrenching every time because Luffy's like, we have to go back, we have to get him, and and everyone in Bond is like, nope, you have to go on, you have to go save your brother. I I'm I will be fine here, which um, but it's just like Luffy's like, we gotta go back, we gotta he's my friend, we gotta, we gotta bring him with us, he has to come with, and everyone's they had to like hold him back and stuff, and just like oh my god, why? It was so sad.

SPEAKER_06 1:39:07

Yeah, there was just no other choice.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:10

Mm-hmm. That was the only way that any of them would have been able to get out, and he was really the only choice to do it because of his devil fruit power.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:21

Yeah, able to impersonate Majell and get the case to be open long enough for them to slip through.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:28

Yep. And it's just like, oh god. And it was like that was it for Bon Clay.

SPEAKER_05 1:39:35

It's like oh man, you know what that reminds me of? Um, Buddy Rowe from season one of Andor, an um prison uh episode where they were all trying to escape, and uh it's got I forgot his name, I'm sorry, like Star Wars. Like, when it comes to their names, like I'm kind of having a hard time keeping up with them. But point being is that this other guy was helping Andor and the rest of the uh prisoner escape. But the problem was that they all had to like jump down to the sea and swim to um shore and whatnot, and buddy had to stay behind because he can't swim, so he had to either like risk dying um while drowning or die getting shot by prison guards. So I'm like, damn.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:24

Like the hard decisions, you know.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:27

Yeah, yeah. Was there anything else about Impel Down that we're missing?

SPEAKER_02 1:40:34

Um, I think for Impel Down itself, I think that was about it.

SPEAKER_05 1:40:40

Um Because I know once again, uh Luffy was up against Magellan, who was one of those more formidable opponents. But then again, it's like one of those things where I kind of didn't. I don't know. It's like it's one of those things where it just wouldn't make sense to take down Magellan. It's more like, okay, like uh your main thing is just to get out of the prison. It's not like one of those missions to where you go to like Alabaster or Fishman. I I know I'm jumping all over quick, but point being it's almost like a uh you know, a conquest type um allegory that I was mentioning earlier, but you know, he's kind of like liberating this island from this warlord, this evil guy that has to be in charge, you know, at Dress Rosa. And it's not like that with Intel Down, just a matter of okay, the main mission was save Ace, but since he already got out, then I might as well get out myself. I don't really need to fight this guy.

SPEAKER_00 1:41:39

Yeah, yep.

SPEAKER_05 1:41:45

But yeah, you know, yeah, that wasn't I didn't have a whole lot to say, and I know it's like not to discount these arts, but honestly, I'm mentally at Marine Fort at this point. I'm just kind of blazing through these arts just to get to Marine Four. But uh we will get to Marine Force in the next part of the extreme review. Uh Tenora, you got any else? Anything at all that you want to mention?

SPEAKER_02 1:42:13

Um, no, I think that's about it. Um, I mean, just like basically touching on, you know, you're you were talking about what Eva's um power was with the hormones and stuff, and how you know he used that to save Luffy from the poison and whatnot. And but it's like Luffy had to fight through that. That that whole scene was intense, but then at the end, it and he's coming out and just like he's like, yeah, that that that that tracks, that's Luffy. So, but yeah, so no other than just yeah, that's about it for Impel Down, and like you said, just moving on to that Paramount War.

SPEAKER_05 1:42:53

Right, but until then, we just go ahead and take a break and go into intermission, and we'll be right back at it.

Marineford War And Ace’s Death

SPEAKER_05 1:43:04

And we are back at it again with the One Piece Extreme Review, and we are here tonight. We are here where we're gonna be talking about Marine Ford and 3D2I. So let's go ahead and get into it. So, Marine Ford arc, one most pivotal and intense story arc in the One Piece series, spanning from chapters 550 to 580 in the manga, and episodes 457 to 489 in the anime. The arc is also known as the Paramount War Arc, and it's part of the Summit War saga. It serves as a culmination of several plot lines and noted for its high stakes and emotional deaths. Now, key things that happen here is for starters, we have Ace imprisonment and execution because, you know, he's the adoptive brother of Monkey, as we all know, and commander of the second division of the White Bear Pirates being captured by the Marines, you know, because Marines pirates just got caught. So Ace is sent to public execution and Marine Forge, the headquarters of the Marines, as part of a plan by the world government to eliminate the threat of the White Bear pirates and deter piracy. So, in other words, him getting captured is just a way of saying, okay, now that the White Bear Power Pirates are weakened, maybe now people be more deterred from becoming pirates, and therefore it's like a scare tactic, so to speak. So as Ace Execution looms, we have various forces converging on Marine Corps, such as the White Bear Pirates themselves, led by Edward Newgate himself, also known as Whitebeard. The crew arrived to save Ace. We have the seven warlords of the sea. We have such as Arthur Nakuma, uh, Draculinha, Paul Hancock, Donkyo, Delflamigo, and others. We have the three admirals, the top marine officers, uh icono, or we have Al Kee, and then we have Kizaru uh overseeing the execution. And then, of course, we have our main character, Monkey D. Luffy, as he just after we escaped the NFL down, alongside Crocodile, Jim Bag, Buggy, Ivan Call. So there's a bunch going on, but uh as the battle was ensuing and all that, Whitebeard shows up and it's just the Moby Deck, along with his fleet arriving on Marine Force, uh making the start of the war. We have the clash of the Titans between the White Beard Pirates and the Marine Forces with devastating attachments on both sides. Lupe is trying his hardest to break Ace out of his um shackles and whatnot. And then he got close. He got close, but then Keyzer was like, nope. And then after all that, the MVP, Mr. Three, makes a wax key for Ace on breakout, and just we thought, oh well, everybody's getting the way, including Monkey D. Gart that was there trying to get in Luffy's way. Eventually, Ace did break out, but that's when Icon stepped in trying to kill Luffy, but Ace got in the way and saved his brother from death by uh sacrificing himself. So just when Luffy just thought he got his brother back, he ends up losing an or and the way Luffy reacted after he woke up and whatnot, away from Marine Corps and all that, and he was like, Where is Ace? And I was like, Bro, uh, he was in such shock that he was practically, he was like Terry from Brooklyn 99 is like Ace is not dead, I'm in the Nile. But oh, I did feel for Luffy because for people who listen to the zone podcast, as you already know, I do not like the older brother Kurt because you have that cool older brother, and he just dies off early in the series, and it's like so you just pull up, kill up one of the coolest characters for character development, really okay. I see all it is. But at the end of the war, oh before that, following Ace's death, Whitebeard goes on a rampage showcasing his immense power. However, he was eventually overwhelmed and killed by Blackbeard and his crew who arrived to take advantage of the chaos, and Whitebeard's death signifying the end of an era in the pirate world, while Blackbeard steals Whitebeard's uh devil proof power to create earthquakes. So now he can not only create earthquakes but also manipulate shadows, I think it was. Yeah, shadows. And I was like, that was like a slimy thing to do for Blackbeard. And especially when we just talked about how Blackbeard was talking all that good shit when he was first introduced, and then he does some slimy shit like this. Ah, but yeah, the war concludes with the intervention of red haired Shanks who arrived to stop further bloodshed, and that's crazy how like when Shanks gotta step in. I'm like, okay, everybody, chill up. Everybody treats Shanks like the yellow flash in Naruto, where it's like when you see this motherfucker stepping on the scene, you let that man mind his business. Like you mind your own business and let him let him be. I know I'm kind of jumping ahead, but I'm not gonna like spoil it too much. But let's just say uh that confrontation he had with Captain Kid later in the manga. Damn. Anyways, that was the play-by-play of uh Marine Ford art, but uh if you don't mind, how you feel about Marine Ford with some details if I missed any and for yours.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:48

It was uh It was a brutal arc for sure. Um you know we got we gotta see. Some some characters we hadn't seen in a while. We gotta see Ko Kobe and Helmeppo again. Um both been whipped a little more into shape, especially Helmpo. He's not quite the dick he was before. Um and uh yeah the the scene of Luffy coming in with all the other the prisoners from um Impel Down was just like that that scene always gets me because it's just like everyone's like, what is that sound? What is going on? And it's just like you slowly hear this yelling getting louder, and you can hear back and forth between everyone that's falling, and everyone looks up and just just the ship and a bunch of people just falling from the sky.

SPEAKER_01 1:50:48

Like, what the hell? And just the back and forth, oh this is your fault. No, this is your fault, we're all gonna die.

SPEAKER_02 1:50:56

Just like that that scene, I always love that scene. Just kept breaking in on the scene, literally.

SPEAKER_04 1:51:07

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:09

And I and just when um because you know, they they had heard on the ship that they had planned to move up the execution um earlier than what they were saying, so you know, everyone would be too late already, and um Luffy just going up to Whitebeard and letting him know that, and everyone freaking out because Luffy's just treating Whitebeard like some normal ass dude, and everyone's like, Do they do they not read? Does he not realize who that is?

SPEAKER_05 1:51:37

Nah, that's that's giving Goku vibe where he meets the almighty king of the universe, um, Zeno, and he's like, What up, my name's Goku.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:49

I was like, Exactly, and you know, when Whitebeard asks him like who who the hell think you are, and he's like, I'm Luffy, I'm gonna be king of the pirates, and everyone just goes silent. All the all the people that had later just went silent.

SPEAKER_06 1:52:04

Like if I was Whitebeard, I was like, you know what? I like this kid, I like this kid. Like, he and he did, he did, he was like, Alright, I can respect that.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:13

It's like I I disagree, um, but I can respect that.

SPEAKER_03 1:52:17

I like his beard, he got horn, yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:20

But yeah, I know just Luffy just treating him like some normal dude, and everybody freaking the fuck out because they're like, This is Whitebeard, he's talking to like this. What the hell is going on? Is this kid insane? It's like they should know by now, yeah, a little bit he is, but it's just like it's just the and you know, just treating him like a normal dude and white beard did seem a bit confused at first, but then he's like, All right, whatever. But yeah, no, he's like, Is your kid brother?

SPEAKER_05 1:52:52

I'm like, yeah, like yeah, you know what? He does sound like uh how you describe him.

SPEAKER_02 1:52:57

Yep, exactly. Like, yeah, no, you were pretty spot on with your descriptions. Like, he knew because you just from you know how he was acting, he's like, This is this has gotta be the one. There's no way this isn't the one Ace has been telling us all about for all these years.

SPEAKER_03 1:53:14

You're like, Yeah, man, my blue bro Luffy, he's gonna make it, bro.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:19

Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. It's like, oh my gosh, yeah, and um, but yeah, so just that that whole scene of them falling, and then I mean, even Crocodile was like, what the fuck is this kid doing?

SPEAKER_06 1:53:32

And like he just dabbing them up like you ain't yep, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 1:53:38

And she's like, yeah, nope, that's that is Luffy in a nutshell. He don't give a fuck who you are, you know, he's gonna treat everyone like people, like a nor like just you know, like a normal person instead of being all in awe and stuff. Like, I think the only person Luffy ever would have been like truly starstruck at would have been Roger, but of course he was dead before Luffy was born, so um, but yeah, I know it's like and I and then with the um the execution reasoning, part of it wasn't also because um Ace is Roger's kid, that was part of the reason they were doing the execution as well, aside from you thinking that oh wait, I thought they were like biological.

SPEAKER_05 1:54:28

No, they're like brothers by bonds. You know, you we've seen the backstory episode, so yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:54:35

But yeah, no, it's like because that's that was a big reason that they were doing it as well, was just because of that and whatnot, and um, like obviously because he's you know a big part of the white, he's the second commander of the Whitebeard Pirates and all that other stuff, but like a big part of that was because of his heritage, and it's like because you know, for some reason, being born to certain parents automatically makes you just like them.

SPEAKER_05 1:55:02

It's like not entirely true. I mean, some character traits, maybe, yeah, but I honestly feel like everybody is their own person, like everybody forms their own personality, they don't have to be like this shadow copy of their parents or their siblings or anything like that. That's what kind of pissed me up, not gonna lie, where it's like I'm like, oh, he's uh so and so's son, he's so and so's brother. No, I am jet black history, I am me, I am my own person with my own personality, you know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_03 1:55:40

So I get pissed off when people just thinking, like, oh, I'm just related to them.

SPEAKER_05 1:55:46

Like, no, I'm my own person, and it makes me very offended because you're not even that's like saying you're not even giving me a chance to show you that I'm my own person.

SPEAKER_02 1:55:56

Exactly. It's like you always hear the sit the the stories of younger siblings, you know, going to the same high school as their older siblings, and the teacher being like, Oh, you're so-and-so's sibling. Okay, well, I'm just gonna write you off now. It's like, mmm, nah.

SPEAKER_03 1:56:10

I'm like, hold on, like you profile me before the first day of school, you already profile me?

SPEAKER_02 1:56:16

Based on who you were related to, yeah. It's like uh, and that's Ace hated that whole thing as well, because he was he, you know, he was always like, you know, I hate my old man because because of him, I have all this shit and whatnot. And it's like, yeah, unfortunately, because of how everyone was saying, Oh, you're all you are is you know, the the blood of that demon. You know what?

SPEAKER_05 1:56:38

And like that's where his rebel energy comes from. It's like he's it's almost like in a defiant way to prove that he's not his father.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:48

Yeah, yeah, and it's like he didn't have, yeah, so it's like uh yeah, that whole, yeah, yeah. But yeah, that was that was again, that was a big part of why they were executing just because he was Roger's son, and they're like, that's too dangerous to be left alive. Like, bitch, what like yeah, Ace is dangerous, but he's he's dangerous on his own, not through not because of who his father was.

SPEAKER_05 1:57:17

Right, like give him more credit than that. Like, have you seen his fucking bounty? Like, give him credit based off his bounty, not who he's related to. Yeah, exactly. But no, that's like nepotism in the that book against him. Yeah, um, in reverse, like it works against him to where like I'm being um I'm being criticized and I'm being like ostracized and whatnot, like judged for who my partner is.

SPEAKER_06 1:57:45

I'm like, bro, that's not even fair. Like, mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:49

Y'all not gonna uh give me credit for my exploit or anything, like a pirate on my own, my own merits, like that's yeah, yep. Um, but yeah, so then coming in and whatnot, and telling telling Whitebear, you know, everything's been moved up, so all of a sudden everything starts moving because they're like, Oh shit, we have a lot less time than we even had before, and we didn't have all that much time before, and just um, like you said, you know, Mr. Three coming in in and you know what having posed as one of the guards and then creating that key for Luffy, um, and then just um Luffy trying to try his damnedest to get up there because it's like you know, that's he he wants to rescue his brother and it's very imminent danger right now, and so he's trying to get up there, and that point when Garp uh gets in his way and is just like, oh that whole that scene was a heartbreak and because it's like Garp did not did not want to do this. I mean, uh Ace was basically his kid as well, you know. Like, yeah, Luffy and and all them, they they became blood brothers, but it's like that was basically Garp, you know, treated them all the same as his own grandkids, even though the other two weren't actually related. It was like they were still his basically they were still his kids, his grandkids. And so it's like he he didn't want to do any of this, but it's you know, when you have responsibilities and you know he had he had to do unfortunately what he was told. Um, though later on when he's like telling uh who's the Buddha guy? What's the Buddha guy's name again?

SPEAKER_05 1:59:43

Uh Sengoku.

SPEAKER_02 1:59:44

Yeah, Sengoku, and he's telling Sengoku, you you need to hold me down. I am going when when um fucking Akainu, fuck him. Um, after he killed Ace, Garp was telling Sengoku, he's like, you gotta hold me down, I will kill him. And it's like it's like, yeah, as much as you know, he's all about his duty and his responsibilities and justice and whatnot, that was still his kid. You just, you know, skewered. So it's like, uh, like I felt I felt I felt real bad for Garp. Like, I yeah, it sucks, but it's like that was he didn't have much choice in the matter. It's just like I just I I felt so bad for him, you know. He was breaking down crying and stuff, like because he's like, This is I he when he was talking to Ace, he's like, Why couldn't you have just listened and you know, done as you were told, none of this would be happening. And Ace is like, no, I gotta do my own thing, you know.

SPEAKER_05 2:00:47

Like Bob Brown's like, nah, I'm gonna do my own thing.

SPEAKER_02 2:00:51

Yep, exactly, exactly. But yeah, it's like but yeah, no, then you know, the whole um when uh yeah, they um ace gets cured and Luffy just goes like catatonic. He's just like, I mean, because you know, his brother was right over him to you know shield him, and so you know, Luffy got hit with that splashback, and it's like, and just is oh god. You know, there's a lot of villains in one piece, and you know, there's you know, the the Navy's supposed to be, you know, good guys helping keep you know peace and protect people. And it's like, nah, out of all the villains, a kainu is the biggest villain.

SPEAKER_05 2:01:42

Yeah, it's like sometimes the villains aren't the monsters that the heroes fight. Sometimes the monsters are the people that you would say is supposed to be protecting you. That's that's pretty much the point of uh these new shows like The Boys and Invincible, and dare I say, uh, what was that one on Netflix? Jupiter's Legacy, I think it was. I know we reviewed a long time, trying to remember the name, but essentially it's like this idea where sometimes the heroes aren't really heroes, it's more like they're villains just doing a job, like you know, like they're like villains with better PR. Yeah, pretty much.

SPEAKER_02 2:02:25

I mean that with especially with like the the boys, is like that's exactly what it is. They're they are just like straight up villains with good PR.

SPEAKER_03 2:02:34

I mean, yeah, some of them.

SPEAKER_00 2:02:38

Yeah, we're not here for the boys.

SPEAKER_05 2:02:40

I know and I need you on for when we talk about the final season because ooh, there's a lot of shit that I didn't say in the last four seasons that I'm like, all right. Now that we're doing the final season of the boys, I'm bringing everything for that review next year.

SPEAKER_01 2:02:58

Fair, fair.

SPEAKER_05 2:03:00

Well, let's keep it moving, keep it moving. Uh, we were talking about iconouske ring ace.

SPEAKER_02 2:03:06

Yep, so ace is you know gone now, and Luffy has is like I said, he's he went just went straight up catatonic. Like the he's his brain was just like, we cannot process this right now. There's there we cannot process this at all. And so just sort of like shut down, and it just and then you know, their um since you know their their main goal there was to rescue Ace, and Ace is gone now, they're like, Okay, we need to get out of here now. Break rescu now our goal is to make sure Ace's brother survives this, and so they're like passing him around, you know, trying to keep him away from the the navy that's trying to get at him, um, and uh just uh and it's like that you know at this point the pirates are fleeing, but wait, no, no, no. Was this hold on, when when exactly was it that Blackbeard went under the tent to take um Whitebeard's power? Was that before or after those pirates all started fleeing?

SPEAKER_05 2:04:17

I think it was like after the pirates fleeing, you know, like he was taking advantage of the chaos. So some of them were fleeing, and then Blackbeard showed up talking about, oh, I see you finally noticed me.

SPEAKER_02 2:04:28

Yeah, yeah, it's like, nah, fuck you, Blackbeard. You're the reason for all this shit in the first place. But um, you yeah, you know what?

SPEAKER_05 2:04:37

I I wanted to say that uh I I wanted to mention how now that we're talking about it, for some reason I'm thinking of fucking bleach when Rukia was taken by the Soul Society and her institutions also got moved up and all that shit. And meanwhile, there was somebody in the cut kind of manipulating the events or whatnot, and then you have Blackbeard showing up like he's on some fucking eyes and type shit, talking about, oh, you remember how Ace got um I don't think he was really up to that, but like you know how like he's kind of like calculating everything that happened to us, like it was me, Barry on the ones that I was yep, yep, and it's just like oh you dick.

SPEAKER_02 2:05:19

But yeah, no, and so yeah, so because now so now Blackbeard has Whitebeard's power of the the tremor tremor fruit and his own that allowed him to take that one, which was the the dark, the nomin or whatever, the the dark fruit, like is he controls darkness and whatnot, like darkness itself.

SPEAKER_05 2:05:41

Wait, hold on, did they did his original fruit have that like second ability to take other fruit powers? Because at first I was thinking, like, wait, hold on, how is he able to even do that?

SPEAKER_02 2:05:52

Yeah, because he it is that is one of the the things of the dark the dark um fruit power was he is because he can create black holes, and I'm pretty I think that was how it how it worked was he created a black hole in there that sucked the power into himself, and I think it said he's allowed to do that with two, so I think he still has one spot left.

SPEAKER_05 2:06:16

Hold on, hold on. So what you're saying is he's a literal power back, yes, yes, exactly.

SPEAKER_02 2:06:26

And he's still I'm like I said, I'm I'm not for sure, but I'm pretty sure um it was said that he could do that twice. So he can take what there's one more devil fruit power that he can take. And I don't know if they've revealed yet what that one is that I'm sure he's looking for like a specific one, like he did with with um, you know, the reason he was banished from the White Beards was because he killed Thatch over the Devil Fruit, that he because he recognized it as the one he'd been searching for, the dark, dark fruit, and um and killed him over that. So it's like I and then obviously, you know, Whitebeard's powers fucking OP as shit. Um, so he wanted that one. And then I don't know.

SPEAKER_05 2:07:14

I wouldn't be surprised if, well, I won't say too much, but let's just say, as of the Wano art, I wouldn't be surprised if he's after Luffy's fruit based on what we now know about Luppy's fruit. And the thing was, we didn't know what this third fruit black beer wanted, but now that we know more about Luffy's fruit, maybe it'll be revealed later on when he shows up again. Oh, that's the fruit that I was looking for, and you had it the whole time.

SPEAKER_02 2:07:44

Well, I so I still haven't quite gotten to I know exactly what it is you're talking about, but I have not personally gotten to that part yet. Was that because of his fruit that that happened?

SPEAKER_05 2:07:55

Yeah, it was like when they get awakened, like, okay, now you have you fully unlocked your fruit, and I was like, Oh, that's why it was over because I I kind of underplayed your abilities, but that's because your fruit wasn't awakened yet.

SPEAKER_02 2:08:10

Yeah, okay, yeah. I didn't realize that that whole thing was because of the fruit. Okay, okay, no, so so yeah, so maybe maybe that will be the case.

SPEAKER_06 2:08:20

Um anime theory.

SPEAKER_02 2:08:26

Yep. So um, but yeah, no, so yeah, no, now Blackbeard has what no, I was saying anime slightly small because you know technically mom. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, but yeah, so now you know Blackbeard has Whitebeard's plow power as well as his own. Um and you know, all the pirates start trying to flee. And but the fucking Akainu is like, nope, we are not letting them get away, you know, keep after them, even as they're like fleeing, but you know, they they're still wanting to survive, so they're going to fight back. And so it's you know, all got all these navy people dying as well. And that's when we find out, you know, Kobe's got hockey, just like a different kind than we were used to. He's able to hear, you know, all these voices crying out and being silenced, and it's killing him. And he's like, he's like, we need to stop this. They're trying to they're just trying to run away at this point. All we're doing is needlessly dying and sending others out to die, people that won't get to see their family, their their families won't get to see them again, and just and that oh and this is this is all right before Shanks shows up because he's you know trying to convince you know, everyone, this needs to stop. We need to stop. They are no longer interested in fighting. All we're do is needlessly wasting life, and fucking um it was a kindu that was going after him after he said all this, right? Because he's like, You need to shut the fuck up, kid. And then Shanks shows up because Kobe passes out because it's just too much for him, all hearing all the stuff going on, and Shanks shows up and you know catches him and stuff, and he's like, You did good, kid, and stuff, and he's like, This war ends now, and just like oh my god. I I I'm getting goosebumps just thinking and talking about it right now. Like it was just oh man, I there there's uh this uh these c couple videos on YouTube that are just oh man, I get goosebumps even just listening to them, but it has that that whole scene in there, and it's just co Kobe just pleading and begging for it to stop because it's just like like I kept saying, you know, all we're doing now is wasting human lives needlessly. And um, but yeah, no, like so then Shanks comes in and is like this, you know, the the kid's right, this ends now. This this is oh it's it's over, and just like oh but yeah, no, it's just like that that whole that whole arc was just like one thing after another, and just like oh my god. Yeah, it was it was it was a good one for sure.

SPEAKER_05 2:11:20

Oh yeah. Oh, uh before I forget, uh we also get introduced to a fan favorite to the One Piece community, uh Marco the Phoenix. And trust me, we are gonna see him soon.

SPEAKER_02 2:11:35

Oh yeah, good old pineapple head. I still love when when you know I I well it's later on, but there someone was talking about Marco and Luffy's like, who's that? And and there's like, you don't know Marco, you you fought with him, you met him and stuff, and Robin's just like pineapple head, and Luffy's immediately like oh like yeah, and So Marco, yeah, Marco the Phoenix, he was a good one. And it's like, yeah, that was, yep. He he definitely is a fan favorite as well. That is that is for sure.

SPEAKER_05 2:12:13

And is there anything else you want to add on to the Marine Corps art?

SPEAKER_02 2:12:18

Um, I'm trying to think if I've missed anything. I'm not able to think of anything right now unless you bring something up, and then I'm like, oh, okay. But as of right now, I can't think of anything that we've really missed. That was, you know, a big thing.

SPEAKER_05 2:12:34

Right. Yeah, that was pretty much it for me. Like essentially, uh, after all that being said, uh both sides retreated. Uh ends with Luffy mourning the loss of Ace and being taken to safety by his allies and all that. So that is the Marine Four art, the defining moment in One Piece 70 State for future advancing character developments, exploring themes of sacrifice, camaraderie, the harsh realities of the pirate group, uh, leaving this lasting impact on the series and the characters involved.

3D2Y Message And The Two-Year Plan

SPEAKER_05 2:13:10

And right after that, we have the 2014 one-hour and 47-minute long special called 3D2Y. Because keep in mind, after the war, once Luffy was feeling better and all that, he went back to uh Salbadi, I believe it was, and he well, no, it wasn't Salvador. He went back to Marine Four, and since we just stood there and everybody was like watching and whatnot, and then he had his hat down, and it was revealing the tattoo that was on his arm saying 3D to Y, which is Cold War, and uh it was like I think the 3D, like it was crossed out, but like basically it was stopped in two years.

SPEAKER_02 2:13:57

Because originally the plan was to meet back at Sawbody in three days, right? But because he realized, you know, he did the whole, you know, and the ringing of the bell part as well when he was and they were taking the pictures, and that's that's how he was letting with that tattoo, he that's how he let the rest of the crew know, you know. I know we originally said we'd meet back in three days, but um he's like, we need to grow, we need to we are not strong enough yet for this new world. So we will instead of that's why the 3D was crossed out because it was three days crossed out and two two Y for two years instead, so they would know that you know that's change of plan. Exactly. We will use these two years to become stronger to survive this this new world we're coming up on, and it makes sense because this was world news when Ace and Whitebeard died in the Paramount War.

SPEAKER_05 2:15:06

So they would know about it. Like, yeah, they've seen what happened. Oh, I think it's funny how Usuf got fat during that time. Yeah, uh they know about it. So when Luffy did his announcement, it was like, all right, bet, we we see, bro. Like two years, we look back up Monsalvity. All right, but yeah, before that, we have 3D2Y, the uh special, where Luffy is 18 months into his training at Ruscana when several Navy ships are attacked by Burn. Uh I'm sorry, I'm gonna probably uh won't say the name, but uh World, excuse me. Mr. World here uh was imprisoned after several of his crew gave him way to the Navy and revealed themselves to be cyber pulse by but escaped impaled down during the War of the Best and has now reunited with members of this former crew. Uh Mr. World kidnaps Marigold and Sanderson and Luffy and Bo Hancock set out to rescue him. By the way, I like how at this point Bo is perfectly comfortable essentially being Luffy's sugar mama, hoping that he'll she'll like he'll like return her feelings, and then he just didn't like, oh well Bo just being so nice to me. Like, oh well thank you for the food, thank you for whatever excuse me, sorry. I had a tip on my throat, whatever. Sorry, but essentially he was trying to help him with food, supplies, clothes, and all that. And they arrived at World Shield, which holds this huge newly built cannon. And oh god, damn.

SPEAKER_02 2:17:11

You good there?

SPEAKER_05 2:17:12

I I I'm trying.

SPEAKER_02 2:17:14

It's really it's really in your throat.

SPEAKER_05 2:17:17

Yeah, like for some reason it's been happening um for some time during the podcast where I'll be talking and talking, and suddenly my throat just gets dry. That's why you know I like take a drink, and like I don't have a drip on me just talk, so that's why. Yeah, I just forgot to grab my drink, that's all it was. But um, that's also why when you see some uh video podcasting, they have that little bottle of water, and then you kind of drink it with something like the throat gets dry.

SPEAKER_00 2:17:48

Yeah, just take a acid. We have the throat.

SPEAKER_05 2:17:51

Yeah, that's all it is. But we also get Buggy the Clown and Meehawk also arriving due to uh being the warlords being summoned, and once Luffy, Hancock, and Buggy taking out the remainder of World's crew, his brother, it's funny. I it's only funny because I'm thinking that I have to pronounce it this way because if I don't, I'm just gonna keep thinking of that one pirate character from Dragon Ball Z, uh Bojack, uh uh well I won't say he had blue skin at first, but then we transformed it turns green. So from that one uh non-canon DBZ movie and named Bojack, and I'm sitting there like, bro, uh, I can't see why they even named him with the Y in his name. So that way it's like, oh well, don't think it's the same pirate from Dragon Ball Z, but like it's okay. But anyway, his brother Biojack unsuccessfully tries to convince him to abandon his revenge, but World reveals that he's still enraged over their betrayal and has been using his crew as a means to an end. Luffy overhears this, and it combined with World's taunting of Ace's death, motivates him enough to successfully defeat World using the armament hockey ability that he had been honing on Rusana. And then severely weekend, world uses the canon on approaching Navy ship, but the attack is deflected by Nihawk, and the Navy successfully for the world's ship, and then after that, six months later, Re Lupe reunites with Creek. Now, that's pretty much the general gist of what happened in 3D2R. What I did like about it and why tonar I say thank you for reminding me to look into this one because I was gonna I always thought I was gonna go off over the specials, but this one I like because I like world in a sense to where first of all, the world. I'm sorry, I had to do it one time. Second of all, I like how he serves as a thematic foil for Luffy. You know how we kind of alluded to uh antagonist that Luffy's gonna fight in Whole Cake Island, but with this guy, he is like a foil to Luffy from a thematic point to where while Luffy he lost his crew, he lost his brother, but that didn't change his part per se. He just more like, oh, I'm gonna find him, I'm gonna find him, I'm gonna find him. And then meanwhile, World feels like he was betrayed by his crew because you know they were spies. So he was portrayed by his crew and pretty much everybody. So he's gonna use his crew uh as like canon fought or whatever else he needs in order to achieve his goal. So, in a way, like from a mental, spiritual aspect, world is the opposite of Luffy's where Luffy could have been like Mr. World if the crew, like Zoro, Nami, and whatnot, were were to betray him for whatever reason. Like that could have been Luffy, but that didn't happen. So I just like that parallel. Aside from that, I also like how just like how when we talk in the intel down art, I like how Luffy just have this natural synergy with people that he either rarely fought together with or for the first time fighting together with. And what I mean is with the fact that he's working with Boa, Buggy, and Mihawk. So you're just like, whoa, I if I never knew about this special, I would have never thought in all my days that these four are working together for some reason. Yup, like damn, okay, like the most random team

3D2Y Special And Mr. World Foil

SPEAKER_05 2:22:01

up.

SPEAKER_02 2:22:02

Yep, yep. Like, damn, okay.

SPEAKER_05 2:22:06

But hey, it works.

SPEAKER_02 2:22:07

But hey, it works exactly, it works.

SPEAKER_05 2:22:11

But uh, that's pretty much all I had to say on it. I just like that once again, Luffy can just easily cooperate. Well, I won't say easily cooperate, but synergize definitely. He can definitely synergize with other people and the fact that we have this one character, the world, uh Mr. World, um uh being like this thematic foil to Luffy's mindset. But uh Tenara, what what did you think about 3D2R?

SPEAKER_02 2:22:44

Um, I didn't have much thoughts on it aside from just that that whole you know ringing the bell thing and making sure that you know the newspapers were there, showing his respect for for and it that it was for everyone that died there, not just like the pirates. Like he was, you know, showing respect to everyone who died, including Navy people. It's like it was still, you know, they were still people. Um but yeah, it was yeah, it's sorry. It's like it was it was a lot, like yeah, but yeah, no meeting with those people. It's like like I don't I don't know if I I don't remember if if Lucy Luffy really realized the fact that oh this could have been me if I hadn't found you know who I found and whatnot, like that but yeah, I do you remember if he really realized that fact, or is that just something that we as the audience really felt?

SPEAKER_05 2:23:47

It's it's something from the audience point of view to where like he didn't really acknowledge it himself, but it's more like when I saw it, I'm like, damn, you know what? That could have been Luffy if uh Zoro, Nami, and the rest of them decide to betray uh Luffy.

SPEAKER_02 2:24:03

Yeah. But we know that's not gonna happen. But yeah, yeah, we're gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_05 2:24:10

I want to say I'm sorry, I'm just gonna go ahead and spit it out. I wanna say, yes, like the crew, the straw hats do have good hearts beat down. But I also want to say it's I want to say it also helps when Luffy has such a good heart that Luffy is the kind of captain that they want to trust and believe in. So it's almost like if Luffy was even half the man that Mr. World was, it would be more like, okay, they kind of have their reservations on following around Luffy. Almost kind of like Butcher from The Boys. I know we're talking about the boys like twice in one review, but you know, like Butcher was the leader of the boys, but then he started moving like kind of shady like up until, you know, like season four, and where it's become very obvious that he'll do whatever it takes to um achieve his goal, even if he kind of fucked over the rest of his crew. So it could have been played out like that, but it didn't play out like that because uh, in a way, Luffy's good heart inspired very good heart in a way. Because, like, especially with like Nami or say Robin to where they could have been running around fucking over other people to get treasure or whatever else may be, but by being introduced to Luffy, they are reminded that not all pirates are bad. Some people got good heart, they just want that freedom, that adventure and whatnot. So it just helps that Luffy is the kind of person that you can trust.

SPEAKER_02 2:25:46

So yeah, exactly. Like he's not one of those pirates that they do this for the money and to hurt people. It's like he just wanted the freedom.

SPEAKER_05 2:25:54

That's literally his reasoning was pirates are free, they are the most the most free, and keep in mind that half the crew were like, in a sense, like maybe not to a liberal point, but most of the crew wasn't really free. Like, think about it. Zoro was introduced, being almost executed, but Luffy saved him. Uh Nami with the whole thing with uh Arlong. You have one and the whole thing with Enz Lobby. Uh Chopper was just stuck on that island, Usa was stuck on his island. In a way, it's like Luffy liberated those pirates to being free. So it's like he brought the very pure spirit of piracy. Like that's crazy when you think about it. Like you said, you know, you know how a pirate normally operates, but this is more like he just wants to sail the seas and go on events and all that type of shit. It's like the purest form of piracy.

SPEAKER_02 2:26:53

Yep, exactly. And it's like, yeah, no, that's what you know, a lot of the other people they meet don't understand about him. Is it's like he's not in this for the same reasons as y'all. He literally just loves freedom.

SPEAKER_05 2:27:08

Like he doesn't even care about obeying the One Piece, it is more of a I just want to see for myself what it looks like.

SPEAKER_02 2:27:15

Yeah. Yep. You know, and he's like, you know, if pirates are free on the on the ocean, who's the most free out of them all? Obviously, the king. So that's gotta be me.

SPEAKER_05 2:27:29

I mean, yeah, like as a pirate king, that does make sense. Because normally with kings, it's like, ironically, you're like the least free. Like, say, for instance, me as the leader of the zones where I'm like, I wanna do all this. Like, I'm one of those guys where I'm like born to dilly diligent, forced to lock in, where I'm like, yeah, I'm trying to lead the team, but at the same time, I'm taking on most of the responsibility. So until the zone pans out the way that I want it to be, it's like I gotta work the hardest out of everybody on the team. So it's like, in a way, I gotta uh shackle myself up, just uh make sure that I have to make sure that the whole team eats. But that's just the thing. That's the risk and responsibility I have to take in order to for us to make it. But uh, yeah, like Luffy is just the kind of guys that you want to follow. And that's pretty much all I gotta say about 3D to Y just those two things where it's like uh it is give you perspective on what could have happened if uh the main cast is moving differently.

SPEAKER_02 2:28:45

But yeah, nope, that's yeah, about the same, just that's about it as far as that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 2:28:52

All right.

Wrap Up And What’s Next

SPEAKER_05 2:28:53

Well, that will conclude part two of our one piece stream review. Because remember, we're gonna be um if we're not doing a super cut of all 21 seasons, what I'm gonna do is cut it up into thirds, where it's gonna be the first seven seasons, then it's gonna be eight through fourteen, then it's gonna be the 15th through the 21st. So this is a cut up for part two, and after this, we will begin part three, starting from Fishman Island, leading into Egghead Island. So, with that being said, we go into intermission, and I guess we'll just see you in the next installment.