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Naruto: The Xtreme Review (Part 2: Shippuden)

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A sand village rises, a leaf village falls, and three fans ask what it really means to be a shinobi. We revisit Naruto Shippuden’s most defining arcs—from the Kazekage Rescue and Sakura’s surgical brilliance against Sasori to the razor-edged politics of the Five Kage Summit and the world-shaking theater of the Fourth Great Ninja War. Along the way we dig into why Jiraiya’s final stand in Amegakure still breaks us, how Pain’s creed exposed the hypocrisy of hidden villages, and where Naruto chose conviction over annihilation.

We get tactical with Shikamaru’s checkmate of Hidan, honest about the Rasenshuriken’s double edge, and clear on the uneasy truth behind Sasuke vs Itachi. When Sage Mode Naruto lands after Pain’s almighty push, it’s not just power—it’s restraint learned the hard way. And when Madara drops meteors, the series switches to myth at full speed, only to center us again with Might Guy’s eighth gate, Kakashi and Obito’s reckoning, and Naruto finally meeting both parents in the storm.

Yes, we debate Kaguya—misstep or necessary endgame—and we give Sakura her flowers for work the anime often hid. This is a story where espionage, loyalty, and survival grind against ideals, and where the last battle at the Valley of the End proves peace isn’t won by jutsu alone. If you’re here for the Akatsuki, the politics, the meteors, and the heart, you’ll feel at home. Hit play, relive the highs and hurts, then tell us: which Shippuden moment still lives in your head rent-free? Subscribe, share with a fellow ninja, and drop a review to keep the conversation going.

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SPEAKER_12:

Alright, gang, we are starting the Naruto Shaputa Extreme Review. Starting with the Kazakage Rescue Arc. Now, I gotta say, I thought this was a pretty solid homecoming for Naruto, you know, gone, being gone for like two and a half years, maybe three. Yeah, yeah, it was two and a half years. And he was training with Jurah. He's coming back to the village. He's meeting with Sakura in the game for the first time in a while. They, you know, chat chatting him up and whatnot. He's finding out that some of them got promotions, including Gara, who went all the way up to becoming the Kazakage of the Sam Village. And then Naruto's like, damn, like I'm happy for my boy, but damn, like I need to uh I need to tighten up because I need to, you know, my whole dream of becoming Hokage is like this, you know, almost like Kyle lit a fire in his village. Because, you know, if his friend became the Kazakage in his village, man, he definitely needs to tighten up when he wants to become Hokage of the Leaf Village. But before he even does all that, he gotta rescue his friend Sasuke. So but speaking of rescue, Gara, minding his own business, ends up being accosted by Leokasuki, particularly uh Saseri and Dadara. They managed to kidnap him as part of this whole plot to extract the Teen Tariqi from Gara, which ultimately will kill him. And the Lee Village and the Sand Village decide to join forces to rescue Gara from the Koshi, and of course, Kitashi and Kisame get involved, but you know, not that involved, but kinda involved. You know, they just want to make sure that the ritual goes off uninterrupted, but it did anyway. But you know, they were still you know, but we'll we'll get into that. But yeah, a bunch of shit goes down, and oh yeah, Sakura. She has a big moment going up against Soccer, and there is the whole thing with Lady Heel, a whole bunch of things going on, but I'm not trying to hold up too much time trying to hog on the spotlight. That's why I'm glad I have Koku Yatsu and Playboy on for the Naruto Street review. Starting with Playboy. How you feeling about Naruto Shapin?

SPEAKER_05:

Naruto Shapin? Yes. Man, that's one of my what the whole franchise, not just my you know, favorite anime of all time, man. Great story, plug OP characters, like almost every character, like has like this uniqueness about him, you know what I'm saying? Like you can pick a favorite character for almost anybody, you know what I'm saying? Like for me, it was multiple, so and just the the the political aspect of it and how the wars and stuff like that with the different clans, well not clans, but we'll with clans and the different villages. The clans within the villages were kind of like um military branches, how I looked at it, and then with the wars going on and some alliances going on. I could see I used to put a lot of the real-world aspects with wars with Naruto. So that's another thing how I related it, and then also just growing up kind of feeling black sheep and outcasts. I kind of related to Naruto and Sasuke in different aspects, you know. I mean, I grew up with the anime just as much. It took a minute for me to actually get into shit food and to be honest, because when it first came out, I was still stuck on the OG. I was still stuck in that phase of oh, nothing's gonna be better than this, dude. So it was like, no say it would change and stuff, but once I actually got into it and watched it and caught up with my voice, I was like, oh yeah, I've been missing out, man. So like it was it was a whole lot of shit to catch up on, but it was a good experience nonetheless.

SPEAKER_12:

Oh yeah. And Koku Yasu, how are you feeling about Naruto Shudin as it stands right now?

SPEAKER_08:

Uh so Shipuden itself, also I kind of feel a little bit like Playboy, about the same. When Shipudin first came out, I had not finished Naruto. Like, I'll be honest with you, cuz that was the time I lost cable, and at the time Tsunami was my way of watching. Um watching the anime for everything. I didn't have no internet at the time, so that was kind of like the biggest thing into it. It was like, okay, so if I'm gonna watch this, I need to kind of catch up. Because immediately jumping into the like very first episode, she put in, it's been two and a half years and Naruto and the game finally reunite. And I'm like, wait, what? Last thing I recall, they were still hunting down Sasuke. And I'm like, I need to go catch up on them. I was I was beyond lost. I'm like, where's Sasuke? Didn't they bring his mind back?

unknown:

Nope.

SPEAKER_08:

So I was like, okay, well, uh, let me go catch up. But then yeah, I do um one of the things just mentioning briefly is that I like how in Shibu then we wound up getting more of a close relation to the manga. Because you see, one of the things about this too is that Naruto was also one of the ones that it was subjugated to the point of we need to make this more kid friendly, so the manga's a little too serious, we gotta change some stuff out. And you know, we already went through this whole debate thing about whether or not Niji was really supposed to still be alive or not. Um big thing into that one. But it was just the whole aspect of we finally get a chance to get more serious because now we have the excuse of they're older now. You can't say, Oh, there's a bunch of kids, you know, he's like 10 and stuff like that. We no, they're older now. That this is this is the age where it's like it's okay to kill kill one or two of them off. It's okay. We're gonna do that. Just expect that.

SPEAKER_12:

Nah, see it's a good idea. That's the wildest part. Like, I'm sorry, but like, see, just like I was saying in a previous part of the narrative extreme review, the wildest part about this universe is that when it comes to murder and whatnot, it's like oh well, you know, as long as it's not one of our own, then I don't care what you kill. Like it the rules, the rules in the universe just so different to where it's gonna look like. Huh, like you would think some of the things they do are illegal, but no, just you know.

SPEAKER_08:

Plus, I will say this is also one where if you got confused in original Naruto, whether or not they were in modern time or like feudal Japan time type thing, it only gets more confusing because to be honest with you, they get more advanced technology that looks more modern day, but they still have like the old school thing, and so every time they leave the village, they're going to another village that's like old time type shit. But then you they wind up seeing those little uh filler episodes with the movies, and then all of a sudden it's like, oh wait, no, there's trains, there's cars, there's city buildings. Wait, what? Yeah, like it's just it's it's it gets more confusing. Just don't don't look too much into that.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, it's all right. Let's go ahead and get into some of the details of this arc in particular. Let's start off with the root, well, not really a root draw, but more like Naruto and Sakura do the bell retrieval test again with Kakashi. Now, I thought that was a good uh call back to when they first performed Team 7 and the first test that Kakashi gave them was the bell retrieval test, and after two and a half years, Kakashi was like, alright, let's see if y'all still got it. And uh they kinda uh gave Akashi a little bit of run of his money. Like they were trying to keep it on with them way, way better than when they were kids. Well, they're still kids, but like preteens. They were preteens back then, they were teenagers now, so fair enough. Uh, how did y'all feel about that? Like, did y'all feel like North Tone Soccer did way better in this second time around? Honestly, I still kinda okay. I wanna re-watch Chippuda anyway, just to make sure. But like, dang, like, it'll be fucking crazy to where they do the bell tree with test again, but this time is Naruto Sakura and Sasuke after the fourth war.

SPEAKER_08:

And I'm like, oh no, it'd be kind of a bit unfair at that point. Because by this point, by that point, if them doing it again, it's gonna wind up like Kakashi is let's be fair, significantly weaker. He's already at a point now that there's a whole lot of online inert debate of him being the weakest. Um I mean, I want to say spoil. I don't want now. If this this series is old as hell, I'm not spoiling nothing for y'all. If y'all ain't seen it, y'all just ain't seen. I'm sorry. Um, he's like the oldest Hokage, he's like not the oldest, the um weakest Hokage of all the Hokage that's been.

SPEAKER_07:

So it's like but so take it to the next one. I mean yeah, it feels a bit unfair.

SPEAKER_05:

I mean, I can I I I I in an aspect, I guess I could see that, but I wouldn't say he's the weakest is kind of setting the bar high still, because I mean, as it at some point, it ain't like Naruto Kank. He he's old, man. Like he's he Kakashi kind of getting old.

SPEAKER_12:

So I mean, no, hold on. Let's not say that because you know, with Tsunade, with her being well, Tsunade and the third rook kange, as old as they are. I think it's not even a matter of that he's weak as in, like, oh, he can't really do shit. It's more like he's only considered the weakest by default based on power scaling after moving the Sharingon.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, that's what I was saying. He kind of still set the bar height, though.

SPEAKER_12:

He kind of knows Yeah, so it's almost like based on power scaling, it's like, okay, by default, what you got going on?

SPEAKER_08:

By this series, we're facing again, we've moved on. Like the in regular Naruto, the strongest uh creatures that you see are the tail beasts. In this series, we're facing against actual gods. That just becomes becomes a staple at that point. So it's like, yeah, you're comparing by tail beast standards, like, yeah, Kashi's still strong, but now we're comparing to god standards in this point, like that that's when it becomes a whole big difference. And no, no, I'm definitely not selling Kakashi short into it. Kakashi earned his rights, he definitely earned his rights into being Hokaka, and there was a big thing into that. It's just the fact that, yeah, like you said, based on power scaling-wise, it's just one of those ones that, like, cool, you copy Ninja, and but the thing about it is is that that's he doesn't have the strongest feats anymore into that. Even then, like his strongest feats that he had, a lot of people was real confused about Naruto at the beginning. And no, we had talked about in the previous um one where when he fought against Zabuza, a lot of people was real confused about that fight, and they were like, So he's supposed to be super strong, but he's getting handled by this dude with a big sword. Like, I don't understand that. And it's like, no, you don't understand. That's just how strong Zabuza actually is. Like the series started off with a major heavy hitter. We're talking like mid, like mid-game boss type stuff, just all of a sudden being the first boss of the game that you kind of go up against. Like this yeah, fucking right, levels off of the menace. So it's one of those ones like you can't, if you're trying to compare that, you first you need to understand who the boss actually was. And hold on, like it's the same for superduce, and that's my thing.

SPEAKER_12:

Like, that's what I love about Naruto the original, is where those very first few arcs, at least it felt like it's about ninjas. By the time you get halfway into Chiputin, it's like you got motherfuckers with fucking newt on standby as far as juices. And I'm like, bro, like what happened to sneaky motherfuckers with kunais and shuriken? It's just like what you said, oh you know, uh time just keep changing technology, whatnot. It got to a point where I know we're going to like Boroto um territory, but bro, it gets so fucking different by the time you get to that part to where I'm like, is there even a point of being ninjas now? I mean, that's kind of the point of borough, like a little bit, just a little bit, where it's like, you know, the age of the ninjas undying, whatnot, and you know, all the different technologies where it's almost like, is there even a point in that universe? That's what I kind of like about it. It's it kind of reminded me of uh Avatar in that aspect to where you get from okay, during Aang's time, the avatar was very well needed. But by the time you get to Paz Korra, well, it happened during Korra's run, but definitely after Korra's run.

SPEAKER_10:

The world is now like, do we even need an avatar?

SPEAKER_12:

That's and that's crazy because I fought with both of these shows at the same time back in the day. That's what kind of what's fucking me up a little bit, to where I just felt like these two shows just have that sauce. Like, you thinking like, okay, it's a cartoon or anime, and yeah, there's action, there's like some comedy and whatnot, but like there's like layers and themes to it where I'm like, nah, nah, nah, nah, this just ain't the kids, dog. Like, y'all selling the anime work short, you know. There's like some shit that you can learn from these things. But uh, not to get too off-topic. Uh, with the Kazakhage rescue art, like I said earlier, Sadora and Saw 3 kidnapped Gara and the Leap and Sang uh work together to retrieve them. And this is also where they're introduced to Lady Cheo, who is known to be this uh great healer, but she's also kinda uh cynical, I want to say, because he was kind of a sour push for the most part, like she just felt reluctant to help, but you know, she eventually does help, but we'll get to that part. Um I did like how with sorcery, and then we eventually find out what sorcery deal is, how he's like this puppet master that Conqueror could, you know, I mean, I'm gonna happen. He's such a master of puppetry, it's almost like dang, like I thought Conqueror was kind of badass with his puppets, with his two puppets on what was it, um Crow, Black Ant, and Salamander, I believe it was. Uh, with his three puppets, that was kind of badass, and then you have Sorcery, who had like a fucking hundred, two of them being his parents. I was like, and wasn't one of them a Kazakhia too? Oh shit. Like, see, that was crazy for me. But um, how do you feel about Soccery and Dadora as a debut? Uh started with Kobigasu.

SPEAKER_08:

Of course, you're gonna hear me first. Look, uh, I'm an artist literally as much as I I like both of them. Because here's the thing, I'm big into sculpting. I love sculpting and stuff. That part. So you know dead or two, but um, it's the fact that um I love how the inter I love that how art is really brought into this one because I like I love sculpting. I love I actually do like puppetry a little bit. I'm not as big into it as I could be, but just either way. So first off, understanding that Saucery is pretty interesting, like you said. For one, uh his chakra manipulation itself, just being insane enough to be able to control so many puppets at one time, not just being able to control them at one time, but to be able to control them to the aspect of being able to use enough of his chakra, like you said, of a kaza kage status that's still immensely important. It's like crazy powerful. But then the other one is like, yeah, with Datera. A lot of people just think, oh, you know, Dator is just very simple. No, he we don't break get a breakdown of his story until later on. That nigga's insane as hell. But just he's in here like, oh, I got hands, I got mouths in my hands. I mean, I watch a lot of Juju Incho uh, you know, anime because that's one of her favorites. So it's nothing there, but Jesus man. Yes, you said the memes. Oh, if I had a hand in my mouth, ooh, I don't think I'd need one. I said, hold on a second. Oh I said, y'all going a bit far. What is wrong with you?

SPEAKER_12:

I have the meme. This is a mad deal. No, no, you know what? I'm not gonna go there.

SPEAKER_08:

The amount of times that he would bring his tongue out anyway. Yeah, no, no, it's like it's a whole bunch of different things into it. But yes, as far as I love the design, actually. First off, I love the Kosuki design, but we still they're still shrouded in mystery by this point. We have no clue how they really look, like whatsoever. And I think the craziest thing about it is saucery is the fact that we really don't know how he looks. When we see his first design, we just think he's like a really old man with like some type of wooden style dreadlocks because he does look wooden, which is the thing into it, and he's always hunted over, but you're just like, okay, so either he turned himself, and there's that that whole thing that they talk about earlier on. We meet with um when we finally meet a lot of the elders of the sand village, and it's like he's dangerous because he turned himself into a puppet, so you gotta be careful. So you're like the old man that did this.

SPEAKER_12:

He was like, at first, they were setting him up to where he was so obsessed with puppetry that he turned himself into a puppet. Kind of like how somebody would be so enamored with robotics that they end up becoming a cyborg.

SPEAKER_08:

Exactly. But so that's the thing. Throughout most of the series, we don't know how he looks like at all.

SPEAKER_12:

So even at this point, I was gonna say, even better example, Cyberpunk edge runners. Although yeah, all those enhancements, like the more you get them, it's like you're gonna get go crazy with all those enhancements.

SPEAKER_08:

They said they're working on a new season on that too, so I'm curious. Um, but yeah, so it's like pretty cool to sound as like the fact that we don't know how he really looks, and we we're led astray to that this is how he is, he's this old man type thing, and it's like okay, so he was he's been doing it for years, so he was old when he did it, and it's like, no, not really, but you don't know that yet. So we're already shrouded in extra mystery with him because we don't know really how powerful he is, and that's one of the things, even when Gara got missed, like got confused into that when he was like, wait a second, oh no, I I really don't know how powerful you are. I thought I was ready for this because I'm like, my brother's a puppetry. It I thought I was good with this, and he's like, No, I'm not. I I am lost. Oh no, this is not good. Um, but that's my like general take for them, too. It's the fact that, yeah, the memes, the means.

SPEAKER_05:

of it all and playboard how'd you feel about the two new Akasu members being introduced like any thoughts on that personally like after like after the whole um duo things I started to see why they did it how they did it because a lot of the mission that they went on was kind of perfect for them like if you think about it sending saucer and Daterer to Capture Guard was kind of the best option they had because it turns out Sorcery was the one who made Conqueror's puppets so come down to it if they came to the village he knows more about them than any other Akoscu member Dadora would be a good counter for him considering how just wild he is and I guess his ability to well consider what he did to win the fight his um you know when he tried to like blow up the village like total annihilation Gara counted it with rising the sand above the village and uh data like put little bombs into the sand that was kind of like low down and dirty but I was like ooh I didn't even expect that because I thought Gara had it that was smart.

SPEAKER_12:

That was smart because Gar keeps that sand around him see that's the thing that's another thing is like is it really dirty in this universe like it's like hey man do whatever you gotta do. I know but I bro I just man I I was watching it for the first time so I just knew Gara had that oh my boy counted that shit boom boom boom but I ain't gonna lie when he did it like that it caught me off entirely because I'm like damn you can make him that small I like that wasn't even no plot armor shit I gave it to him that was just I said it was dirty because it fucked me up I'll ruin for Gar because I had just I mean you gotta think about it Gara was the like Gara was kind of like a villain back then so if you didn't if you were one of your favorite characters you kind of didn't fuck with him my characters was like Sasuke Lee and Niji so when the guard came to the village I was like eh all right cool you all right but I wouldn't hold on a second Sasuke Lee and Neji dang how how you feel about she put in huh I mean you say you're honestly attached I like Itachi over Sasuke it's just growing up before you got introduced it was like it was that little squad like the beginning of the Naruto it's just interesting you mentioned them three and we talk about sheep then right so it's like I mean I kind of feel that too because keep in mind like back when I was in like high school like I only heard of ship and like it was like the manga was still going on and then I only saw like images of Itachi on bro those like um some people had like Itachiha as their background for shit like uh whether it was their PSP or their um whatever their um computer background like you see Itachi with his fucking crows and I'm like because the main thing was like he just had like this aura of mystery like man shit Sasuke's older brother he's the cool kid's older brother like he's cooler than him I hate that you said that I hate that you said that because I was just telling Tonara on the one piece of stream review how I hate this whole older brother curse thing going on to where it's always the cool older brother character that ends up dying and it's how I feel about fucking I can make a kill with fucking um Bula end on dying and that one I'm like fuck and then fucking Ringoku and Demon's play even though he wasn't like Brother Brother but he was like an older brother figure he died um big hero six um hero brother ends up dying I'm like bro why is the oh it's a cool older brother dying so like I I'm gonna be honest with you JB is like you're kind of screaming to the world you a little brother man just I'm just saying it's okay so I'm like I'm a little brother too I'm the younger too many I definitely got the Itachi sasuke choke wall shit happened to me a lot of times uh yeah same bro like that triggered me right there I'm like bro like why is it always this drope where like you have this older brother type you're like hey man I'm kind of cool with this motherfucker like he's kind of cool and then you god damn the dead brother just coming still all his aura points yeah he he is there to aura form just you know kind of give the main character a little bit of motivation to keep going keep going and then next thing you know calm you know from fucking Dural because you're supposed to look up your older brother you're supposed to look up to the older brother that's the thing that's why it's it's a whole point of the matter of it but it's like yeah I guess since we all admit it we all younger brothers here I'm I'm the younger I'm the big man I ain't got a choice I don't even have the experience of being an older brother I gotta do that with my cousin but no man but nah that was that was I feel like that was a good duel to send to the old sand but it's a you know kind of catch a guard and you know just if it went into any other problem a person from the sand village who knows it and then another one who's able to be like hey he's gonna put up an a shield that's like damn near impossible to get into put your bombs in his shield he's not gonna know about it in a site load up in his face you like I mean it but look as much as you say it's like felt dirty too and I can understand but it's also there's still finobi finobi is all about the down and dirty to win it's whatever it takes.

SPEAKER_05:

Let's not forget that we just reviewed the Naruto extreme review where we were talking about how during the tuning exam part of the written exam was the team so you kind of have to play dirty yeah that is true it is true that's that's what he would be an eye coming should have saw that shit coming but then think about how long it took for him to create that eye and concentrate it like you know yeah he's yeah yeah yeah especially through that mid battle I think he loses part of his vision like the uh he does because he has to block one eye in order to be able to see through it that's why he has the one hand blocking my eye to where I'm like yeah yes I passed it so it doesn't you know I get it that's balanced otherwise that shit would be broken OP yeah they it would have had to pass that shit ASA if he if he was able to yeah if he was able to do that be pretty much like Kitashi no at night be just like uh Kakashi you know just like Kakashi has that one over one eye all the time he's like oh I'm used to fighting with limited vision so when I decide to bring out bow vision you know you fucked you fuck bro that bird the very first time he lifted that fucking head man oh shit now that was crazy we're like what his last name not on Chia I'm like whoa hold on how's going on with him what's the story behind them and then when you find the find out the story of like oh yeah but look how wait I don't even know they didn't really reveal it on in depth back then we had to wait till Shippuda yeah you had to wait way into Shippuda for that yeah we was yeah that was crazy not even understanding it's his fault it's it's literally his fault that the world was pretty much come to this end because had he not did that all you had to do was say that you I mean it's like the butterfly fact yeah if he didn't do that one thing yeah I guess yeah this slick is his fault kinda yeah but we'll get into that when we get to that point but man that's like but uh let's try to keep it going with the uh the Kazakage rescue arc um Sakura I mentioned that she becomes more useful in the came through yeah like whereas she was helping Tia with the poison when Kakura got poisoned by um damn I forgot well no it was so because so he was using puppets that had poison in her head yeah soccer was the first one of defeat in a Cosky member see I'm gonna put it like this I was always she's not my favorite girl but I fuck with Soccer I'm not because especially after uh well um Kokugasu put us somewhere he at least he told me I didn't know if you knew but um about well I kind of seen some of it but he kind of explained more in depth about how the anime version of her and the manga version of her went exactly you know the same you know what I'm saying so they kind of changed her characteristics but seeing that well knowing that and then taking that into the Sheppuden fight I was like yeah she's really not you know what I'm saying as bad as people make her out to be because aside from her being strong nobody likes the character that she is but in that moment she was really like she really like I I for what they gave her that man they gave her that moment they didn't let nobody come in and save her nobody come in and do no assist if anything she was the one clutching up they even put her in positions where she was fucked up but she kept pushing you feel me and I fuck with that I was bro I was rooting for soccer the whole time I ain't gonna lie to you I mean to be fair and cook guys in the moon talk but uh to be fair I was thinking all right let's backtrack a little bit before when shit really got started she was just a girl back in the day you know a girl who had a crush on a boy and he also wanted to be a ninja so okay Cook cool which is actually kind of funny now that I think about it because the whole team seven dynamic it kind of bleeds into other shows we really notice it but one in particular to where okay they're not a team together but it's like this protagonist Dutragon is and the girl character and in this case and my hero academia there's Deku, Bakugo, and Udaraka um but my thing is with Udaraka she knows she has feelings for Deku but she wanted to stand on business and become a hero for the sake of her family.

SPEAKER_12:

So I like Udaraka in that sense because it's almost like okay uh let's not make the girl character that kind of character to wear oh she's just there to have a crush on the male character but she doesn't really do much outside of that. No no no Udaraka proved herself that she was very useful when the situation came and I feel like with Sakura she started to come on her own definitely uh during this arc but it's almost like it took her a while after the tuning is there because remember she was like just a girl who's new to the Shinobi world who was just too busy having feelings for Sasuke to a point where sometimes she has lost focus because she was too busy focusing on Sasuke and then once you got to the shooting exam when shit got bad like yeah when she got that one Sound India girl had her by the hair and she could have soccer could have stabbed her in multiple spots with that kun that she had in her hand but I don't know why she didn't do anything other than cut her hair but I know it's supposed to be symbols and whatnot I get it I get it but I'm just saying you could you had like better shots like come on like um but after the tuning exam it's like okay it was mainly about Sasuke weaving and you know she just want Naruto to bring him back and whatnot and it was the whole Sasuke pre-work or whatnot. But after that thing it was just a whole bunch of filler. So Sakura honestly wasn't given a chance to really shine yet up until Shepudin to where okay two and a half year time skip nothing much was going on anyways so she might as well um train under Tsunade learn medical ninjutsu and uh also you know the super soldier pill that makes her all strong and shit and I'm like okay she can carry her own weight now so now she gets a chance to showcase that but that's why I say that it's wild how people kind of act like they gloss over this art where this is the one art to where soccer was like dare I say one of the most useful motherfuckers out in the field. But y'all want to say she's useless but have y'all watched this arc do y'all remember this art where she was fighting soccer just like what Quayboy just said she was the first one to take down the team member we're gonna gloss over that I'm sorry but I don't get go down to go ahead and take the wheel I'll just mention this real quick because yeah for those of you who didn't tune in to the previous one and tune in here one things that you may not know is that Sakura manga soccer and the anime very different the reason being is because when the anime had to sell we already talked about they had to change the anime a bit more to the kids and then this whole thing about ooh girls have cooties girls is this girl successful boys so they changed her character to fit that build.

SPEAKER_08:

So and as such a lot of her fights that she had in the anime which seemed like extremely short and kind of just uneventful are fleshed out more in the manga. During the tuning exams she was a major ally to team 7. When Saska and Naruto was down she held her own they just put it as like just a bunch of those still freeze frames where she was kind of just standing there and they were like undeciding about what it was that they were going to do and stuff.

SPEAKER_12:

No Sakura was planting tracks soccer was doing stuff soccer was literally messing people up she was messing up the sound engine they were just like okay there's a reason we can't get to Naruto and and Sasuke right now is because literally she was doing the bad she was powerful I'm kind of I'm kind of mad it's a little bit I mean I don't care at this point but I don't like how they set up Sakura um to have like they were kind of setting her up to get like a Genjutsu user but you don't really see that. Like she definitely have like a more awareness of Genjitsu so it's more like uh out of the three members of Team 7 um if they were under a Genjutsu she would be like have more away awareness of it so I I kind of like that aspect but I kind of wish they lean into a morse where uh she actually uses Genjutsu.

SPEAKER_08:

But she and she does in the manga. Later Sakura is one of the this is one of the craziest things about it. Sakura is one of the few people that can break out of Itachi's genjutsu that is a real thing that nobody will ever talk about because they purposely keep that as far away from the manga as possible from the anime as possible but manga so break out of Itachi's genjutsu.

SPEAKER_12:

You know that's how much of a strength awareness she has of genjutsu to the point like and I'm mentioning this and I get back to you because the second thing I was going to mention with community exams on the third part right before Gara sorry when Gara and Sasuke were fighting remember the whole place was put under genjutsu everybody was put under genjutsu soccer recognized it and immediately dispelled the genjutsu instantly even Kakashi didn't mention it in the anime but he kept but it was more better mentioned in the manga it was like literally Jonin's couldn't break out this genjutsu that soccer broke out of literally said that Jonin's couldn't break out this genjutsu soccer broke it instantly before it took effect when that's literally saying the manga soccer is slept on she is heavily heavily slept on that's the reason why there's so much of that debate people who are pro soccer are the ones who ran the manga people who were against soccer only watch the anime she was purposely written out like that so that's the reason why it seems like she has such a huge power jump scale into she put it so many more popular by the way anime but nowadays the manga actually now it's the manga but for the longest yeah it was anime yeah but no you know it kind of feels like kind of like Gohan in a sense in Dragon Ball it's almost like the plot kind of hold them but except in this case it's more like the anime adaptation holds Sakura while the manga was more faithful to what her potential really was so it's like a lot of feats that and achievements that Sakura may have under her belt you have to read the manga for that and I'm thinking well damn like see that's why when I first heard like see yeah I'll admit I leaned into the useless jokes just because I thought it was kind of funny but the whole time I was thinking I just don't get it because useless no overshadowed you can say that because it just kind of feels like it doesn't look like she did a whole lot outside of this well she definitely did shit in this world and she definitely wanna do shit in the fourth war but for the most part it seems like just kind of there's kind of there you know she's helping but at the same time it's not like she had it's almost as if she didn't have that many highlights that's why she keeps getting glossed over because what seemed like in the anime there's not enough highlights to her name to where like okay she actually did do shit but like you can probably say the same shit about Lee but he had more heightened moments that's why you can't say oh uh Lee didn't do a whole lot but how come he get all this love but like yeah he had like good moments though like you remember those fights that he's in but like but for some reason people just almost have brain parts on the ass with things he did. But uh speaking of which let's talk about that fight between her being assisted by Chio and Saucery, like it was kind of back and forth here and there to where Sarka was trying to fight all these puppets, and it got to a point to where Tio used her uh puppet Jusu to kind of help her with her movements and whatnot. And I thought it was kind of cool to realize she was like a living puppet versus a hundred puppets. And I was like, okay, it was kind of interesting. Like just watch her smash all these puppets and whatnot. It was close calling um here and there, but she pulled through. And in the end, though, like the one-tail raccoon, that's the crazy part. I thought it was a rat at first. Um when I was uh the one tail was a rat, but it was a raccoon or uh raccoon rat or something like that. Some some kind of animal, uh close to that. But I believe that the Koshi was able to seal uh Shukaku into the ghetto statue. Uh the fact that we killing Naruto, and they well, sorcery dies, but Dadera lives for another day. It's too late. But but Lady Chiyo decided, you know what, let me just do one nice thing. And uh Chiyo gave her life force and part of the healing process of trying to revive Gara. So she gave her life to make sure that Gara can live on and whatnot. I know I'm kind of glossing over a little bit, but that's really what stuck out to me for the Kazakage art. It was basically about Gara getting. Well, hold on, hold on. It's it was mainly about Naruto coming back. We see everybody growing up a little bit. Uh, some people got promotions and whatnot, including Nadi being a Joni, Gar being a Kazakaga, and most of my things, including Sakura, was uh tuning. So pretty much everyone except Naruto of the rookie nine are tuning. At least tuning. And then we find out, okay, Gar is being kidnapped by Sorcery and Dadra. Uh Leaf and Sand try to rescue him. Itachi and Kisame gets involved to try to prevent him, but you know. Yeah. And then Sakura had her big moment going up against Sorcery, and then Gara ends up getting killed, and uh once hill getting distracted. But she'll give her life to make sure that Gara lives on, and that's pretty kind of getting rescue her in a nutshell. Like, if I could be brief about it. But um, yeah, I thought it was a pretty solid article.

SPEAKER_09:

Like, but um, Cookie, you wanted to add something?

SPEAKER_08:

Oh, that's it. And my apologies, I could have sworn I was I was muted, so I apologize onto that. I was saying Lee was done dirty, that was what I was saying. Yeah, but it was uh it was a personal thing, but I I have my own vendetta against that. So again, I am so sorry. I thought I was talking to myself. Um no, as far as into this one, I mean there's not much, but yeah, like you said, the biggest thing I think is why this gets overshadowed is probably because it's a soccer hype uh part, and this seems unrealistic because she jumped up in power scale like so significantly, and it's like it doesn't make sense when when you find out realistically, oh, it's because she was heavily nerfed in the anime just for sales sake, then it makes sense. It's like okay, her power scale actually makes a lot more sense into it now. Understanding, like before she her biggest focus was on getting Juju, but the thing most people also don't realize is her uh second personality because that is also a thing written for her. That whole uh inner soccer is actually a whole nother personality for her, so it's not just her inner thoughts, she's literally talking to another version of her. She is she she's bipolar, just realistic.

SPEAKER_12:

But because I feel like schizophrenic or um the social identity disorder.

SPEAKER_08:

Oh, yeah, it could be, yeah, yeah. So yeah, it's one of those ones it's like, yeah, it's kind of there, but it's also one of the ones you gotta be careful into that one because she did not have a hard life growing up, she was a privileged little girl.

SPEAKER_12:

Oh, ooh, ooh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, but jumping ahead, but it doesn't matter because the Chiputin is here in review is gonna be one bit super cut compilation, anyways. But bro, you just remind me of a part that really pissed me off because technically it's a part that's already said in part one, but it kind of echoes in part two to a point where Sakura said some shit that really pissed me off. To where Sakura was like, in part one, she was picking on Naruto for not having parents and oh he's on alone and whatnot. And then Sasuke was standing there, like, yeah, alone. That sounds familiar. Uh uh, yeah, like I don't have parents either. Like, what'd you guys say about that? Like, you got a problem with worth it? Like she didn't really think about that. Um, standing in front of Sasuke at the last, quote unquote the last Uchiha. Um, but then in part two in Shipputin, she pissed me off even further to where uh she was talking to Naruto, and she was talking about how oh her parents was pissing her off, and I'm like, man, I wish I had like better parents or no parents or like and then Naruto was like, Whoa, hold on, like, aren't you going a little too far with that shit? Because, like, look, they like say what you will, but they're your parents. I'm like, man, get out of here, Naruto. I wish Sasuke was here. Maybe he would understand.

SPEAKER_10:

And I was here like, bitch.

SPEAKER_12:

Are you gloss? She is glossing over a major part about both of her teammates to where she's the only one with her parents that are alive. How are you just insensitive about lord? It was wall to me. That was wall to me.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah, she didn't have a bad life, she was a very privileged girl. So, I mean, and it's we're not gonna sell short of her frustrations with her parents, it's kind of things into it. It's understandable why her parents her parents frustrated her because of like, look, this is all too dangerous. Our family's not really like cut out to be ninjas like that anyway. So she was already always hit, like onto that heart part of it. You know, she had the Hermione treatment, blood blood treatment on like, you know, realistically, you ain't no real ninja. Your family ain't ninjas. What do you think, man? You really think you could be a ninja here? What do you mean, no ninja? Girl, what's wrong with you? Like, I am just as much of a ninja as you guys are too. Because the parents have no have no chocolate control, so it's like they're just like simple store owners type thing, and that's that's kind of what they wanted for. They was like, we want you to have the simple life, but we didn't want to hold you back. But this is just getting too dangerous. It's like I am needed to save the world. What is wrong with you, bro?

SPEAKER_12:

Like, for some reason, you reminded me of that one thing, the Incredibles, you know, in Prozone's like, oh, where's my super?

SPEAKER_09:

I need my headband or not. I need to go out and um we don't like you telling me where my headband is. We're talking about the greater good.

SPEAKER_08:

We need to say the one like, but otherwise, I mean, I don't really have much to add on to this particular arc. I mean, it it was a nice introduction introductory arc, like realistically. Uh to me, I started tuning more into Sheepin when Psy was introduced, just personally.

SPEAKER_09:

So I don't know.

SPEAKER_08:

I just always kept founding it was weird. I kind of looked up with that. I mean, I get it.

SPEAKER_12:

He's an artist, I get it.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah, yeah. Perfect counter day to run too. Anyway, that's all I got. Playboy, I don't want to take my time away from you. You got any other closing remarks, my man?

SPEAKER_05:

Uh other than I I mean, no, it was a good arc, man. It wasn't like the best, you know, especially because it was it, it was like one of the first major arcs of the Shapura, wasn't it? Aside from like the reunion of Team 7.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, that was the one. Yeah, like that's the next one, but like it's the first like canon art. Like, see, here's the thing I might as well tell y'all now. Uh right now, it's just this art for time being. And then next week we'll come back and do the Saskate reunion art. And then after that, then chances are we might do two seasons at a time because one of them might be a filler art that's like anime only, it's where I'm like, eh, well, I'm not gonna have a whole lot to say on this particular art anyway. So I just give you the play-by-play, but yeah, like for the most part, these are the first two major arcs, and then after that, it's almost like they kind of go back and forth between being a filler art and canon.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

Well, yeah, I mean, it was it was a good starting art for a couple of things. Like for me, it was kind of like a good introduction to the Akoski, aside from them just making cameos and appearances and leaving. We actually got to see some skills from him and some fights. We were able to get some feats and stuff. Um, Sakra got her little development, she got her time to shine. Uh it was it was a nice little start art to get the pace going as far as everything that led up to you know the next situations, you know what I'm saying? So I feel like it was a good start. It wasn't I feel like it was a decent art to start off the rest of the uh the current um talking about Shippuden. I don't I wouldn't consider Shapudin a season, it's like a whole nother part of a show, it's a show within itself. I wouldn't call it like season two or not, so I guess like it was a good start for the show.

SPEAKER_08:

Then it's considered as a whole other series. Like if you when you look it up, like Shipudin is actually marked as an entirely separate series from it. Okay, okay, I thought so.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, so it's like it's almost like you can treat it like Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z. Same story, but it's just more like they just kind of cut it out to one point where Dragon Ball Z is just its own thing, just like with Dragon Ball Super, all the same story from Naruto to Boroto, all the same story, but you might as well just cut it up into like you might as well say Boroto's part three, you need to really think about it.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, you think then, especially when you grow up on it, it's kind of like they all kind of run concurrent, so it's like I I know where it ended and started, but you know, oh yeah, I feel like it was a good start to show them.

SPEAKER_10:

Yeah, all right, yeah, that's all we got to say about the Casa Calegate Rescue arc.

SPEAKER_12:

Um, solid arc, I would give it a 8 out of 10. It was a solid opening to the series. Like, I mean, I I kind of expressly like oh man, you know, I got a weird relationship with this kind of mood that they did where I can't really hate Boroto for doing it if I like it when Naruto Shapudin did it. Like it just felt a little biased and unfair to where, like, okay, this thing to where the way episode one kicks off to where Naruto, Sakura, they finally catch up to Sasuke, they finally see Sasuke for the first time. And you're thinking, like, is it like a dream or what's going on here? But it's like a preview of episode 51, which is like the next art that we're gonna cover. And then it's like as soon as they meet up with them and things start to get a little crazy, then it just cuts back to oh well, let's just rewind before this all started, and once you get to like 50 episodes in, then you get uh caught up to how they get up, how they end up um meeting up with Sasuke again. And Boroto does the same thing essentially to where first episode you see all the destruction and whatnot, you see what happens, uh, Kowaki and Boroto or whatnot, and then it's like, oh well, before we really get into it, let's rewind to how it started, and we just go from there. So it's only like building that little entry to where I'm like, okay, that's something to just keep their attention long enough to where I'm like, I'll keep them locked in.

SPEAKER_08:

I'm like, do we really need that though? It's because of how they did it. Like, there's there's multiple ways, like you can name a number, a number of anime that do that as an example and stuff. And one of the biggest things into it is because Boroto has so much filler, like that's one of the biggest issues into it, is that it felt like it was forever until we caught up. Because if you read the manga, it worked out better because they yeah, they start off with this whole this is what this is where this is like the currents of what's happening right now. But first, let's back up to how we get there. And you get there in like less than a hundred chapters. So when you watch an anime, it's like 300 something odd episodes. That's when you finally get there. So it was like, Jesus, were we ever gonna get there? What was the point into it? It's just because of the whole filler aspect of it all, and that's that's just kind of why. And she putin was kind of like it didn't have as much filler to get to it. That's the reason why. Like we were able to finally get to that point. Plus, on top of that, it didn't start off the sheepedin didn't start off with that. First episode was it team seven met back up again. Let's see how we got there, and you're like, that just felt pointless by this point. We already hit we got an understanding of what was happening, the time frame that was happening, and kind of build up, then did it of a jump ahead of what to look for. And this is how we got there. We've we had a little bit of a build-up before we got there, type of thing. It's just the timing of it, and just doing it in a series that's so anticipated, and it took forever because of the feel that there's a there's a bunch of reasons why it is doing that just didn't work out for the Boris anime.

SPEAKER_12:

I feel like, yeah, like at least with Chipudin, you didn't feel like you I mean, I know how some people feel about One Piece where it doesn't feel like, oh, we gotta watch a thousand episodes, maybe even more, just to figure out do they even find the One Piece? At least it's not that bad, but like Chiputin, you only have to log in for like 50 episodes, and then okay, they meet up with him again, but even then, there's a whole lot more to this story than that. But with Boroto, it's like, okay, like you just seeing all these arts and whatnot, and then you're just really waiting for a Kawaki to show up, and then it's like, okay, he's showing up, so like I'm just pretty much like keeping my eye on you because I already know what you're gonna end up doing, but I don't know how you're gonna end up doing it. I'm just gonna keep my eye on you. I'm gonna watch every fucking movie you make. And see, it's almost like Burrow Tokyo gets more interesting as soon as he shows up because of what you already expecting to happen. I don't know, it's almost like in a way it kind of works, but it kind of takes away the surprise on certain things. Like, can you imagine if they didn't do that? Like, see, it would be one thing with Naruto Chaputin because we spent a whole season a filler after Sasuke decided to go to Rochimar, anyways. So, to be fair, there was a whole bunch of filler in between that, but it was just that one filler artist then you got one two canon artists, and then you meet up with them again. But um Boro toe, oh good lord, like that's why I gotta rewatch it anyways, but Jesus Christ. Like, can you imagine if they didn't do that to where, okay, Boro, they just started off like normal, and you don't really know what to expect with this one to where you're like, okay, well, it's just the son of Naruto. What's he gonna do? And then you see all these high-things and adventures, and then next thing you know, you see this random kid named Kawaki. I'm like, okay, what's his deal? He ends up feeling Naruto and he nah. Oh, you know, we'll get to that. So let's just go ahead and wrap up this part until the South Game Reunion arc. Great things are coming. Go ahead and have yourself a good morning, good afternoon, good evening, good night. But ultimately, Dante Bayol. I had to do it. All right, continuing the Naruto Extreme Review with the Tenti Bridge art. I like to call it the Suscare reunion art because that's easier to remember for me. Uh, there was a field art after that, the 12 Guardian Ninja, the 12 Ninja Guardian art. Uh, I'll just kind of breeze through that just real quick because there was like some moments that I like but for the most part, and it's it's it's a whatever art. And then finally, we're gonna talk about the Hita and Costco view art and close it out for this part of the stream review. And I am glad to have Professor Tut on for this section. So let's go ahead and zone in on it. Let's start with that Sagittarius Reunion art. So essentially, with Kakashi, he's gonna have to do his thing. He needs somebody to fill in for him, so he gets Yamato, and then there need to be somebody that fills in for Sasuke, so they end up getting Sai. Now, both of them are on Blue Black Ops, but with the thing about Sai is that he's part of Ruth, who's like really close to Donzo.

SPEAKER_01:

Now, Donzo, I swear to god, I can't stand Donzo.

SPEAKER_12:

But um, I'll talk about him later when we get to his climax, you know, like when things get really wild. I think it's like the foot of the fourth war that it happens, but uh we'll we'll get there. But uh Sai. I have mixed feelings about Sai because the thing of him is that when I first watched Naruto Putin, and I was again like, oh. Okay, here's this guy, and he looks like Sasuke, at least as far as like the face. But outside of that, like he's like nothing like Sasuke, at least not that much. Like, see, his whole thing is he has a brother that he lost um a while ago. And ever since then, it's almost like a part of him just died that day. So it's like he became like kind of emotionless and whatnot. Or like, I don't know, it's like stoked to a fault. And in a way, even though sometimes the way he uh goes about things, like he's trying to connect with people, but he does it in a very awkward manner, especially with others, you know, we like Naruto, Sakura, uh Choji, other folks that you know he interacts with. And it in one way, like, okay, I can understand some people don't like him, but in a weird way, he kind of best represents what ninja should be in this universe, where he's like double-aged type shit. Like, yeah, he's like on this team with Naruto Supper and Yamasu, but he's also working for Donzo, and there was this whole plan where Sai um kind of act like he's betraying the leaf or like colluding with Orochimaru, or it seems, but it was just a whole part of the mission or whatnot. So it's like a lot of things Sai does give Naruto and Sakura some valid reasons to not want to trust them. But uh, Sai, he outside of this art, like as we go along, it's like, you know, I guess he's alright, but it's just I can understand if people don't really like him because like the way he kind of comes off.

SPEAKER_13:

But uh he don't have any emotion. Yeah, it's like I blame Donzo for that though. He needs a fake Kokage.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, like he's like an inner rim kokage while Tsunade was out of commission. But uh, once again, we'll get to that later. Uh Yamoto. I think Yamoto was a great addition to where he also trying to connect with Naruto and Soccer and whatnot, but he kind of comes off a live. Well, it's like uh, you know, every time like he's trying to talk to him, and it just looked like someone is holding a flash like underneath his chin, and it's like that creepy stare that he does, like, but oh, I don't even mean anything by it. But so I thought it was kind of funny in that aspect. But uh outside of that, Yamato is a solid guy because he has the Hashirama cells, I believe it was, uh, where he can use wood jutsu, but it's also wood and water juicu, too. And his main purpose is to make sure Naruto doesn't go crazy, which is why I kind of appreciate what happens in the Tenshi Bridge art to where they meet up with the informer who happened to be um Kabuto. They try to put on this app, but Kabuto is perceptive. So he was like, hey, how can you get your buddies out here too? Like, let's just go ahead and get this over with. So, you know, Naruto Sakra inside, jumped out, and then almost immediately, as Orochi Mara was pulling up, Naruto was starting to crash out using this nine-tailed chakra. And see, the thing is, that's the crazy part. Because I was doing the bleach review with Tokugasu, and I thought it was funny how Aizen was crashing out like not even five minutes into fighting Ichigo during that final fight. Uh, and I'm thinking, like, bro, why have to all that composure you had like five minutes ago? Meanwhile, I'm looking at Nartha, I'm like, why are you crashing out right like that? But then again, it kind of makes sense in this aspect because keep in mind, uh, Orochimaru is the guy that's convincing Sanskrit to go down the path he's going down in order to get enough power to defeat Hitanki. So it's like by confronting Orochimaru, he becomes closer to finding Sanse. So that's why he felt a little angry, even though it's like a little too. But then again, it is Orochimara, one of the three signings. So I can kind of understand where he gotta go ahead and pull out that trunk card because he can't afford to just play around with them. At least not at his current power level. Well, I know there's not power levels in this shit, but you know, just humor to here. Uh there's the whole tussle. Yeah. But uh, there's the whole tussle with Orochimaru to a point where Orochimara had to pull out those skates and whatnot, and it got to a point where uh Orochimara, or I think it was Kaguto, knocked Sakura down, and that pissed him off to a that pissed Naruto off to a point where he went into his four tail form for the first time using that tail beast bomb and all that shit. And I thought that shit was kind of crazy, not gonna lie. Uh, but eventually uh Yamato and Sakura got Naruto to calm down, even though he had to like regenerate his skin because he kind of burned all his skin off on going to that format. Like, gosh damn. Um the first time watching that shit, I was like, shit, like using um the nine-tails kind of like fucking fucks him up a little bit. But uh, yeah, he he draws the skin back and forth. Uh after all that, you know, Sai just sneaking around trying to find Sasuke and whatnot, but Sasuke using his four and whatnot intimidates Sai from um fucking one and all that shit. Naruto and Sakura and Yamato, they trying to go into the hideout, trying to find Sai and uh Sasuke and all that shit. And then next thing you know, big explosion. Um Sai said some shit that Sakura didn't like, and then next thing you know, Sakura hears her name being called out by Sasuke, and then there he is, standing on the high ground, just looking at him, and he was playing off real cool, like almost like flying close to Naruto and whatnot. Like, damn, what'd you how'd you get there? Yeah, he's like a true eminence in shadow, and it yeah, yeah, like he definitely got stronger than all that shit, especially with like new techniques, uh, with new sword and all that shit. And Naruto, Sasuke, I mean not, excuse me, Naruto, Sakura, and Yamto just having a tough time dealing with them and all that shit. But the thing was, once again, Sasuke could have killed them. But he was like, nah, I'll keep y'all alive for now. So uh yeah, I'm gonna bounce with these two guys now, but uh, don't fold me or else I might have to do something I might regret or some shit like that. And then you know, he just burned off into the wind, like that flaming teleportation thing going on. Uh I thought it was a pretty decent arc, like not, I mean, not to discount it, but I just felt like with this art, it's like there was the three main points. Uh, new team seven, Naruto breaks the rotum, Naruto and Satra reunite with Sasuke. That's fire. Any thoughts on that, Professor?

SPEAKER_13:

Yeah. Um I want to go backwards a little bit. Let's talk about the characters. The new Team 7. First of all, I can't stand Sai. Um, it just he doesn't have enough character depth. It's like you introduced to a character, you get to know a character a little bit, you get a little bit of his backstory, and then like you never see him again until like it's time to fight Mar. Like, bruh. He barely there. But it does set us up for a good role for Captain Yamato. Um, so a little back, a little backstory about Captain Yamato. First, he was in the Ambu. Uh, well, even before that, let's go, even before that, because they introduced uh him versus Orochimaru. Um, as they set up Naruto's fight with Orochimaru. And Yamato's past is tied to Orochimaru because he was one of those um infants that was adopted by Orochimaru. It was 60 infants that was injected with the uh the cells of Hashirama. Uh and then so, you know, those sins cells is hard to get. So he was the only survivor, which is crazy. Because, you know, even when you deal with um the same thing when you're looking at the uh the curse mark, so it's hard to find somebody that can do that. But he was the only survivor of that particular experiment. Um so growing up around that and introduced to all of that, you'll note that that's how Yamato was. So he was actually given that specific role by Tsunade after another role that he was doing for the Ambu. Uh, so he was known as Tenzo for the Ambu mission, and then he was given the code name Yamato for particularly for the new Team 7.

SPEAKER_01:

Right.

SPEAKER_13:

And I really like Yamato, man. He is a great character. Um I like that he served under Donzo. So they they introduced that Donzo tie, but while he was in Ambu, he served under Kakashi. So him being able to replace Kakashi and Kakashi already knowing him, knowing his abilities and everything, it's really dope. Yeah. Now his particular jutsu, I know I'm I'm sounding a little bit like Kokogasu because I'm trying to give you too much information.

SPEAKER_06:

Nah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_13:

But he he possessed the rare wood release, which is the earth and the water release combined together to create wood, which is only one other person known to do that, and it's so hard to do that. And like the first Hokage is so amazing, like that's just let's just show you how it's set apart for the first Hokage. He is known as the god of Shinobi, like man, just just the being able to perfect one of his abilities, and this is important because he's the only one in the village that can like suppress Naruto's nine tail chakra, the only one in the village that can do that, like it's crazy. So, yeah, uh, so anyway, yeah, I really like Yamato.

SPEAKER_12:

Y'all gotta think about it in hindsight. It's crazy how Yamato is to Naruto the way Takashi was to Sasuke when Sasuke just got his first mark, right?

SPEAKER_13:

Yeah, that makes sense.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, yeah, hell yeah. How you feeling about the uh Sasuke reunion arc?

SPEAKER_08:

Oh, the arc itself was pretty straight. I will say, uh, I did catch that little shade that you tried to throw. You know, I got you tough. And I was a mess with you. Look, everybody got their time, bro. Ain't nothing wrong with that. This is your time to shine when it comes down to Naruto franchise. This is you.

SPEAKER_13:

I am a Utiha.

SPEAKER_08:

There's no shame in that whatsoever. No, look, so as far as about the series, though, I do like the I do have a deep appreciation for how things have been and like how things really are for the show. I like how the character development has been going into. And you know, I've already mentioned previously before as well that I love how when it comes down for the show, we have a um, it's not as much hidden away from the manga this time. You know, we get a chance to really introduce these characters because easily Yamato could have been, you know, put down. Oh, he's just a clone of the first Okage, he has some abilities and nothing more than that. But we actually have a good story for him that was able to be fleshed out and not cut out. Um yeah, I've already mentioned the previous one. I like this arc also. I like I like Sai. Of course, an artist. Of course, I'm gonna like Sai as well, too.

SPEAKER_10:

Ooh, yeah, like took what's going on on Sai a little bit before he jumped in.

SPEAKER_14:

That's okay. That's okay. There's haters everywhere. He he is an artist. I agree. He is the artist. He can draw like a mug.

SPEAKER_13:

I just don't like his lack of emotions.

SPEAKER_08:

So keep in mind onto this, like, dude, we're talking about Ambu here, man. Like, Ambu ain't supposed to have no emotions, man.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, I was just telling him that side desperate represents what ninjas are supposed to be to where it's like, you know, cold, emotionless, uh spy assassin type dudes, like staying on task, things standing on business type shit.

SPEAKER_13:

Yeah, but Yamato is the same way. He was in Ambu, but it was discovered that he, unlike Sai, in contrast to each other, like he displays emotions because he wants to protect his friends and his teammates. Yeah, and it's like that's where Sai doesn't give a fuck. He'll be like, Yeah, y'all could die. I don't care. My missing. But that's the thing, that's the point.

SPEAKER_12:

To where it's like, okay, Yamato, he shows feelings, and that's great and all, but that doesn't capture the true essence of ninja word, to where they uh ninjas they don't really supposed to have that. The fact that Yamato does, it's like, okay, he has some passive words comrade, just like a taxi. That's great, but that's not the point.

SPEAKER_08:

Exactly. The thing about it is that keep in mind, you ever notice that in any any anime adaptation, if there's a shinobi that you hate or character that you dislike, they actually represent what a true shinobi is.

SPEAKER_12:

It's like they gone, they spread the stage of gray. That's the point of them.

SPEAKER_08:

Whereas they look about One Piece. The one that everybody hates.

SPEAKER_13:

Black people break is the realston.

SPEAKER_08:

But here's the thing, that's not the true that's not a true shinobi way, bruh.

SPEAKER_12:

That's more like Kakashi's philosophy. Like, that's how that's how he feels about it. Which is once again, great.

SPEAKER_13:

And who trained Kakashi? I'm a little confused. His dad. No, no, no. Who who else trained him?

SPEAKER_12:

The fourth?

SPEAKER_13:

Oh, Jariah.

SPEAKER_14:

Yeah, the fourth.

SPEAKER_13:

And then he has to be the realest, the realest ninja alive.

SPEAKER_08:

Oh no, but going back to what I said, if you ever have a shinobi character in any anime that you dislike, that shinobi character is usually a real portrayal of an actual shinobi. That's just understanding. Like, keep in mind, there's there's a bunch of enemy I can list. I can even hit list Hell's Paradise. There's a female character that people absolutely hate. Like, she's just she's so sneaky, she's always lying, she's always doing this. Oh, you mean like a real shinobi, right? So, would you classify Oro Shamaru as a real shinobi? Yeah, but he's actually kind of a little bit different. He might count him as Shinobi. That's what I was saying. Yeah, like a leader as far as the mission.

SPEAKER_13:

He even wanted to kill the orphans. He's like, bro, we need to kill these orphans before something happens.

SPEAKER_08:

But the end is on business at the point. And that's what a shinobi is supposed to do. You're not supposed to like them. They understand when they went into this position, well, most of them they never chose to, it was forced upon them from birth. But like, yeah, like they you go in knowing I'm went in this, I am going to be hated. People are not going to like me. I'm going to always have a target on my back the minute somebody finds out who I am. That's just what it is.

SPEAKER_13:

Man, them nadie ass niggas.

SPEAKER_08:

Ned was teading down that path. So understand when you have a shinobi that decides to be like that, wants to be like, oh, I want to actually care for people. I want it to be as a teamwork. I want to have this and this. Keep in mind, you're no longer a shinobi anymore. You're a main character with power. So that's just what it is.

SPEAKER_12:

I mean, that's kind of how Naruto Shipuden went down the road to where it seemed like it's less about like delth and whatnot. I mean, they kind of do. I mean, even in this arts where, like, okay, they were trying to be sneaky, but then when sneaky didn't work, fucking superpowers.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah, bro. At this point, it just became an action anime. Once we got to She Hudin, it was no longer a ninja anime, it was just superpowers with super with like ninja-like abilities.

SPEAKER_12:

It's just like superpowers, but ninja style, you know.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah. But I'm not hating on that though. Like, yeah, obviously, it's a fantastic anime trope. But I understand that's one of the reasons that I do like Sai, is the fact that it's not just from being an artist, it's the fact that, yeah, his cold-hearted demeanor, he is a true Shinobi. That's how you're supposed to be, type of thing. And he does get some a little bit of character development, but he's not really supposed to be a character that develops like that. Like, not every single character that comes across the show has to be developed. And it doesn't mean that they have to be a hero either. It's not like, oh no.

SPEAKER_13:

Well, sometimes when you're on team seven, you should.

SPEAKER_12:

The main thing is as long as you serve your purpose. If you serve no purpose, then what's the point of being included?

SPEAKER_13:

Yeah, exactly. So team seven was full of main characters, though. I mean, pretty much, especially with uh Sarker having her own spotlight in the Lazarus, and they showed plenty of stuff with him that could have given him character depth, but they didn't. Yamato got plenty of character depth, but Cy didn't.

SPEAKER_08:

And that's the kind of thing with like I said, it's not supposed to be the case for every single person, man.

SPEAKER_13:

Not every person, but on the main character for Team 7.

SPEAKER_12:

No, no, no. Csai is more set up to be a black character art to where he's not supposed to have too much hair development, he's just most to serve a purpose to a point to where he kind of helped influence what's going on, to where, like to a point to where, in fact, his purpose is to uh kind of motivate Naruto and Sakura to where, yes, Sasuke is gone for the time being. You need to be comfortable working with other people while you're going on these ninja missions. I know you want to bring Sasuke back, but you're still ninjas that's doing missions outside of finding this motherfucker. So you need to learn how to work with other people.

SPEAKER_08:

And then also the thing about this, too, is that Sai was also written as a joke character. Let's be realistic. He's that cool emo demeanor and stuff like that. Okay, let's put a real actual emo here. Let's put a real one here.

SPEAKER_12:

I mean, emo, it's more like crazy enough. Like, I mean, not to be offensive about it, but it's almost like he kind of gives off that kind of artistic vibes where it's almost like he's just trying to understand people, you know, emotions and whatnot, trying to get to know their hobbies or whatnot, and just comes off a little awkward about it. So it's like he's funny in that aspect, where like, oh, it's so cute. He's really trying to learn how to be a human.

SPEAKER_08:

I can see that one. But yeah, so it's just like it's it's just be realistic onto it. He's a different type of joke character in itself, but he also has his own benefits in it as well. You know, we finally get we get someone who's able to like, oh hey, um, and plus keeping minds this too. I do feel bad in this aspect, but I have to be realistic here. I do feel like he is also the better representation of how Tamari should have been. Because Tamari got no shine, and she put in remember, she already got holed out in uh in the first one. She got hold out in the tuning exams before. And she gets she becomes a tuning off-screen, but she still also has like no character development, nothing here. So keep in mind, she's a character who's supposed to be like, oh, I could have any type of weapon. But no, no, no, no. No, wait, no, no, no, not smart, not smart. 10. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_12:

Hold on. Okay, now it makes sense because these two do fuck.

SPEAKER_08:

But Tamari, Tamari didn't get much character on either two, but no, I really want to focus on 10-10. Like 10, my bad. So keep in mind, she has the ability to summon any weapon that she wants. Okay, that's that's a busted ability, especially for a shinobi. I can summon any weapon that I need for that time. I just need to be smart at my weapons, and she is a weapons master. But the thing about it is, she gets shot, she got shot down on so much, and it was horrible. That's the reason why like I would say that's the one that's gonna fall on that band like that. Right. That part. Like she got young shit. But no, for real. Um, I'll go so far as you can say in this aspect here. Uh, there is a a game that they recently released earlier this year. I think it's it is still going, but it's like a Naruto-esque game that is made by people in China. And what it is is that um they actually have 10 on there as an actual fighter. Okay, like she summons blades, she summons all these types of weapons. Her special attack is a reign of blades down. And when the blades fall, she's taking them and splicing her opponent up. Like, just cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, cut, just like just going in. Like uh Cloud Final Fantasy VII at Ben Children, when he had the Buster Sword that split into pieces, and he would grab each piece, merge it to his blade, and just start going in, slicing, go grab a piece, merge it, splicing and stuff. That's what 1010 does in that game. And it's like literally, so that's actually one of the biggest comments that they added to it because when they dropped that little commercial on it, was like, Oh, this is the 1010 we're supposed to have. How you have a weapons expert who can't use weapons, it doesn't make sense. So when you have a character like Sai, who is like, I can summon any creature that I draw. My my limitations is based upon my imagination. I can just whatever creature I draw, I can summon it. As long as I have enough charmer to do so. And it's like, yeah, it's a busted ability, and he has his busted moments. You know what's crazy? Everyone's falling off a mountain about to die. Oh, I'll just draw a bird and we can all fly on it.

SPEAKER_12:

You know that one meme or or like one post where someone would say, uh, if you could uh give one character from Naruto the abilities of another character from Naruto. Crazy enough, what if Naruto had size dog drawing abilities where he could just summon a nine-tail fox art monster?

SPEAKER_09:

I'm like, how can no one ever thought of that?

SPEAKER_08:

I would agree. It would be I would feel it'd be too limited because of the type of character Naruto has, the type of character Naruto is. Because the thing about it is Naruto is creative on how he can come up with different things, but he's not that creative of thinking of different creature type stuff. Just me personally, like I I don't see him being able to use utilize that ability that well, not with the way that his personality was developed for the story.

SPEAKER_12:

True, yeah. I'm just saying that it would be kind of busted considering that his chakra reserve, like he'll have enough chalk reserve where he can make like really big monstrosities. That's that's the only thing I'm going with that one.

SPEAKER_08:

Oh, yeah, I can see that. But I mean, that's also the reason why it's beneficial to have summoning jutsues, you know. Because that's the other thing. Like Sai is able to make these creatures and he doesn't have to summon them, it's just his chakra.

SPEAKER_12:

Even better, you can't draw them and like have them like you're not gonna add the baby, it's more it's having them uh pre-drawn, and then all you gotta do is just open a scroll done.

SPEAKER_13:

He should have drew Sasuke. Why would you want a clone and Sasuke? Yeah, like Naruto and Sasuke would have been a little bit more than a lot of things.

SPEAKER_08:

Exactly. That's the that's the foul part about it, nah, bruh. Look, hold on, I'm gonna put this in Tuck language. That's like a magic game with this lady, and she's like, have this magical draw ability, and she's like, Can you draw my baby daddy? I miss him. Like, come on. I was drawing a picture of me.

SPEAKER_10:

No, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_12:

See, if that was me and we were out on a date, and like we were like eating and shit, and she told me, like, oh, you drove, like, can you draw my baby daddy? Like, I miss how like I will get up real smooth and just walk on now and just keep on driving because ain't no fucking way. You told me that on the first date.

SPEAKER_13:

You gotta hit first. Not all the time is that worth it, it's not all the time. Uh Lagos in fire.

SPEAKER_08:

You got some dude. Hold on. Hold on. Legos in five. No, I can I can't moving forward. You said Sasuke retrieval right, right? We talk about Saskate.

SPEAKER_12:

Saskate reunion because uh, you know, oh yeah, yeah, my bad.

SPEAKER_08:

Um oh yeah, because they did find a chance to meet him, and he just like told them straightforward why y'all why y'all searching for me? Like, I ain't got time for this. I'm doing my own thing, and yeah, and then dipped after life beat me behind. Yeah, uh that fight was terrible.

SPEAKER_13:

Was this before or after he got beat up by the eightels? I can't remember.

SPEAKER_08:

This was before. Oh, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_13:

Yeah, when he thought he was everything.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah, he he thought he was about it because he had a chance to finally um beat Naruto because he was like, Oh, I finally beat Naruto and I'm like, dude, Naruto was holding back tremendously.

SPEAKER_12:

You don't see what he fucking did to that fucking water tower where it's like, okay, uh, I mean, Kataji was like, Okay, let me show you something, bro. That's what Naruto did.

SPEAKER_08:

No, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about the reunion, like Naruto still held back significantly. Like, it was that moment he was like, I don't, I'm not really feeling like fighting you right now, dude. Like, we we here to try to bring you back. And he's like, Why? Leave me alone. What's that what's the thing that they tell people? Exactly. What's the thing to tell people is like, look, sometimes people need to go through their things. You can't be their savior all the time and keep trying to save them from their from their growth. They gotta have, they gotta go. You gotta let them go somewhere. So are you serious?

SPEAKER_12:

The road you wanna go on now? Hey man, bro, listen, listen. Hey, you you you gotta train with Sonny. Zarka got to train the sonny. Let me train with Sonny got there.

SPEAKER_08:

I mean, yeah, sometimes you got you gotta let people make their mistakes. That's part of growth, man. Like, I'm a peacock, you gotta let me fly. It's that moment of exactly that that that exact analogy, actually. He's like, you but you know that he wants your um this that I'm that's something that I'm personally dealing with on my own. Oh, okay. That's part of your uh emotional growth. I understand. Uh, I'm gonna leave you beat to that, sir.

SPEAKER_12:

Oh, so you don't want me to reach my goals? You want to stop my growth? Is that what you're saying?

SPEAKER_08:

Nah, I just want you to keep that uh that rear bind, that rear hand untouched. That's what I was trying to say. What do you mean by that?

SPEAKER_01:

What do you mean by that? Uh original, what do you what do you mean by that? Oh no, I don't know what he's doing.

SPEAKER_08:

He's like, look, man, if this is this is part of your training. Uh I I I don't suggest it, but you know what? You do you, bro? And then just move on. That's it.

SPEAKER_12:

He's starting to question why he's been training with his shirt off. Like, um, why do I always gotta train with my shirt off? Like, hey, bro, it's part of the process, don't worry about it.

SPEAKER_08:

Oh god, but no, like honestly, this arc was uh it was pretty short, straightforward. It was just like, look, something that we as fans already knew. Sasuke is not gonna come back, it's not time yet. Move forward. It's just one of those things I'm like, oh, the fact that they were able to catch up means okay, like clearly there's some decent intel you can keep up with it, you were able to finally catch up to the guy. But at the same time, I I do feel like this was just more of a character introductory. Because I feel like there's there was more that could have came down here, and then when we enter into the next arc, then we're like, Yeah, yeah, that's clearly what's going on. Right, yeah, that's pretty much it onto that one. So I don't really have much else to say for this particular arc.

SPEAKER_12:

Alrighty then, let's go ahead and breathe through this filler arc, the 12 Ninja Guardian arc where the main thing with this arc where okay, there's the 12 Ninja Guardians, and a bunch of them died and whatnot, but Osma happened to be one of them. Some grave robbers, all of them names start with an F for some reason. I guess F for filler. Uh, these grave robbers try to steal these bodies, and honestly, now I'm trying to remember. I feel like their goal felt a little derailed. Like it just seemed like you just can't get a grasp on what they were actually trying to do. Because, see, first it starts with okay, let's just grab these uh bodies, and then it gets from that to okay, let's terrorize the leap village with zombies, and then oh, turns out that the bad guy for this art is the father of the boy that's sits there in this art, Sora. And the thing with Sora is that when the Ninetales attacked the village, you know, the backstory, you know, the backstory. While the Ninetales was attacking the elite village, some of the mist that it was emanating from his body with chakra in it, it was spreading across the village, and I guess uh uh his father and whatnot, he tried to gather that mist and tried to do the same thing that the Ford did with Narzo essentially, just grabbing a whole bunch of the nine-tails chakra and like infusing it into his own son. Uh there's this whole weird form that Sorb takes on. It's like a nine-tails form, but it's like he kind of grows like these little growths coming out. It's not like Naruto where he got like uh you know the stripes, but it's like part of his skin, but meanwhile, it's almost like uh Sora just grows spikes for some reason, but whatever. Um the main three things, the main three things that makes this pillar worth mentioning was first of all, we learn about chakra natures in this art. Crazy a pillar art is teaching us chakra nature that is gonna be kind of canning later on. So yeah, um we learn chakra natures, okay. We also see that my bad, I cannot got derailed while I'm trying to think what's going on with uh such a thing. Oh yeah, yeah, Osama. It feels like Osima was like getting a little involved, like having wind nature. By the way, wind chakra is the rarest of the five, and Naruto just happened to have it along with Soroto. And Osama also has wind nature, and Osama's trying to teach Naruto how to harness wind chakra, his wind nature, and I think it's kind of crazy how Osama's getting a little shine in this arc.

SPEAKER_08:

When we get to the next arc, there's a reason he got the shine, you know it.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, I'm like, y'all set that man up, y'all really set this man up. But, anyways, that's the second thing. The third thing is I think it was kind of wild out one of those women that's one of the great robber women. Her power was, oh, let me suck out your chakra by kissing you. And it's like, ooh, yeah, uh wind chocolate, that's like the rarest of them all. Like, come here, boy. And I'm like, Lady, how old are you uh accosting a 16-year-old boy uh for mouth to mouth? Like, that was the wildest part about that whole art. But aside from that, I just felt like the uh chakra nature part, that was the main thing that I felt like, okay, at the very least, learning chakra nature made watching this fill art kind of worth it. Outside of that, it was alright. I think it was still kind of crazy that oh shit, they're fighting zombies, you know. They really got nothing to do. You might as well just fight some zombies while we're all waiting for some more accent to pump off, but uh, yeah, that was that fill art. Um did y'all watch it? Like, how y'all feel about it?

SPEAKER_08:

Uh 12. I'm gonna be honest with you, I don't remember that. Like I must have missed, I must have accidentally skipped that entirely because I don't remember no uh them fighting no zombies. Now, as far as like the not chakra natures, I could have sworn they talked about that in the original Naruto, but they I think they didn't explain a whole lot into it, and definitely not about the whole wind chakra being the rarity of it.

SPEAKER_11:

Oh, wait, wait, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_13:

I skipped all the filler unless it was mixed filler.

SPEAKER_12:

No, I feel that, but no, I think in this arc maybe they explained it better in this part.

SPEAKER_08:

Gotcha. So, yeah, I'll be honest with you. No, I don't actually, I think I misunderstood what arc we were revealing. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_13:

Yeah, that's just all the fillers. I don't believe it. Only filler I didn't skip is what I went back and watched was uh the one about Kakashi's face.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, that's the see, that's the thing. I was just thinking about this. I was seriously thinking about the one time I really gave a damn about the filler was when they were getting really curious about Kakashi's face. What was even funnier about that? I expected it from Naruto, I expected it from Sakuro. I was not ready for Sasuke to be that invested to know what his face was like. Like, bro, I'm kind of curious, dude.

SPEAKER_08:

Look, look, like here's the thing that was like a whole thing. I remember showing a jump where that was a big thing into it. Like they had voted on fans, like the fans voted heavily that they was needing this and they needed to do this. That was the only reason they even did that, was because so many fans was like, We need to see it, we need to see it.

SPEAKER_12:

And they were like, Nah, the look on those three children's faces where he was trying to eat some ramen, and they were like, You were real well, and they were like looking like really horrible.

SPEAKER_08:

Then we finally get to see his face again later on the series. And I'm this is the funniest thing. My wife was so disappointed. She said she said it's still yeah, it's like it's not that he's not a handsome character, but with the how much buildup that was there for his face hiding, he just looked like a regular dude.

SPEAKER_06:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08:

Just with white hair. I was like, uh sorry. Nothing I could do about that. Oh gosh. Yeah, so I'm sorry. Uh nope, I don't remember this uh actually at all. Um I mean, I might go watch it if it if you think it's interesting enough to watch, but if you think it's not, like in honesty, I guess I could skip it.

SPEAKER_12:

It's a coin talk for me, families, but it's up to you. It brings it up to you, though.

SPEAKER_08:

So so we telling me that there's another character that could transfer chakra through um mouth contact outside the old girl that winds up ending up with uh ends up with Sasuke later on.

SPEAKER_12:

Pretty much.

SPEAKER_08:

I still do believe that um too. I still believe that Sasuke's daughter is the other girl's daughter, but I don't I I just can't see it being Sakura's daughter. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_12:

No, no, no. See, that's funny. No, that's funny to people. I was thinking about that too, to where I'm like, okay, I can let it fly that uh what's her face is uh Sarata is uh Sakura's girl. But uh I just I just I just want to imagine one day they were just out and about uh Sorada needs some uh glasses because you know her vision's kind of poor ironic for us, uh by the way. I mean, not that ironic because you know how the Sharon gun works, but regardless, they go out, get some glasses, and then one day uh Sarah picked up her glasses, and then Sasuke was just looking at her like see, he doesn't say this out loud, but he's like just looking at her like remind me of someone. And then out loud he'll be like, I like them, keep him.

SPEAKER_08:

That is way more father daughter development than they will ever give Sasuke.

SPEAKER_10:

You know that man, that is kind of crazy because like because like Sorry was like, damn dad, you're so lame, and then Sasha like, wait, I'm late.

SPEAKER_11:

I almost got laughed, got all the ironic.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah, I honestly feel like that's way too much. Uh it's way more character development, way more uh father-daughter development than they'll ever give. Sasuke. Uh they better give that to Naruto. Why the hell did they give it to Sasuke?

SPEAKER_12:

Hey, what did I say in the Under How Love review? Where it's like in the video. You gotta suck at the ball.

SPEAKER_08:

You also said, what you think this was Dragon Ball Z? Oh yeah, there's no way the secondary father character is gonna get a good father, but no, it's never gonna happen. Anyway, um so yeah, it's it's just crazy. It is just it's just crazy. Okay, I'm sorry. Yeah, I don't have that to contribute for this particular arc.

SPEAKER_12:

Uh oh yeah, you you said you didn't watch it at all. Okay, I get it. But uh yeah, I just thought it was unhonorable, man. But moving on to the real meat and potatoes of this part of the Naruto stream review. He done and bruh, not gonna lie. It was kind of like it was interesting to watch this one because check this out. Naruto, he's still feeling about that, he's still feeling some type of way about that thing he caught from Sasuke. So he needs some training, and Yaniko, whatnot, they are trying to help him train to master his new thoughts for Sing Gun and whatnot. Meanwhile, some shit was happening with some monk um somewhere, like I'm trying to forget, but uh essentially Hidon Kakazu show up, causing them some trouble, whatnot. I think they were going after Naruto ever since you know the last time um you know with Itaji and Kisame, they didn't get him, so like maybe it's Hidon Kakazo's turn. I kind of forgot that part why they were even showing up in the first place. But point being is that team sorry Toby was on the scene trying to deal with them, and they realized a little too late that Hidon and well, I don't think Kakuzu was really fighting that much while I'm in this um about Hidon for the most part, they find out that he is built different. He's like this immortal this foul-mouthed immortal uh that praises to this god Joshine. I guess he's like a god of death or something like that, like some some god, whatnot. But, anyways, it's like as long as he keeps praising Jocene, uh, he just keeps staying alive, and he also gotta perform this ritual every time he kills a man or a woman. And he um pretty much tricked Ostuma into stabbing himself, and Osma dies as a part of that. And of course, there was the whole funeral and whatnot. Uh, everybody was feeling real bad about it. Shikamaru was thugging it out elsewhere, like he didn't even show up to the um funeral because he was like walking around, still trying to think about it and whatnot. But uh his mom trying to give him some more food, like, hey man, like I know you're sad, but like eat up. But like he kind of wasn't going for that at first. It took his father playing a game of Shogi to kind of analyze how he's feeling, and he's like knowing how um the way you're playing Shogi this time around is kind of forceful. It's almost like you're trying to force yourself to be okay with the situation. But son, I'm trying to tell you that it's okay to feel some type of way about it. I mean, he was your teacher and mentor, after all. It's okay to grieve someone that you cherish. Like, you know, just like how we just talked about with uh Yamato, how it's like it's okay to like, you know, feel some type of way about it. And yeah, in this case, this is good, you know. As a father, this is good. And you know, so uh Shikamaro just eventually like balled his eyes uh and then I I think it was like a weird edit, or maybe I'm misremembering, but almost like as soon as Shikamaro just finally let out all that emotion, he was all the um grief that he was following up. Uh Shikako was like, okay, close the door, let him sort out his feelings on his own. Yeah, he kind of needed that. And um, as soon as Shikamaru decided to wipe his tears and all that shit, he's like, Alright, gang, time to get our get back. So they planning a counterattack with Eno and Chozy trying to get their get back on Heedon for what happened to Osama. And Tsunati stepped in, um, trying to make sure like, hey yo, I don't do anything crazy, or some shit like that. And also, Naruto does come eventually later on, as soon as he's done with his training. But essentially, Shigamaru versus Hidon, very tactical and whatnot, but ultimately in the end, uh Shigamaru outsmarted Hidon into falling into this pit trap. And it's like, oh well, if I can't kill you a conventional way, then I'll just bury you and whatnot. It was like his it was like his head got severed, but his head and body and whatnot. So, in other words, he's on is now buried in the earth, and it's unknown. Well, people say that it was unknown if he's still alive, but I'm thinking like if he can't praise the Joshine, then I'm pretty sure he's dead. Like, otherwise, it would be kind of otherwise it would be kind of crazy. Like, if he shows up again, why it take you all the way up to like Borough So to like confirm that you're still alive.

SPEAKER_13:

He was buried, yeah. So what if somebody unburied him? Or they just dig in a random hole.

SPEAKER_12:

That would be a very wild chance that they just happened to find the hole that he done was buried in.

SPEAKER_13:

I don't know. They might they might be digging up to uh as some houses or something in a random place, and then boom.

SPEAKER_08:

That would be the only way that that would happen, is because like Shakamara was very strategic in how he did all of that because it's not like he don't was buried in the road or something like that, he was buried deep inside of this forest that barely anyone goes into.

SPEAKER_12:

Facts, barely everybody goes into place for houses, so it's almost as if, like, okay, you go way into the Boroto era, and it's like, okay, all this developing, all that shit. It just so happened that okay, let's clear this forest, let's um put some new buildings. Oh shit, there's a deadline here. Like, wait, that's not a deadline.

SPEAKER_13:

And Shikamaru got such a good IQ, bro. And this arc he used his shadow possession jutsu in so many different ways. Like, it's like, dang, it's like it's another way he can use it every single time.

SPEAKER_08:

He's gotta be creative because it's such it seems like such a simple thing. Oh, you possess my shadow, or your shadow comes and just grabs me. Like it's the most simple concept, so it's because it's such a simple concept, it's so easy to get to like avoid. So he has to be very strategic in how he can do it, type of thing. Because it's the most simple thing, but it's like, yeah, no, like for real. But other things I also wanted to mention too. Oh, yeah, but I also wanted to mention too is that Hidan is also buried more than six feet under. Even if you're laying foundation, you wouldn't really bury that far, you wouldn't really dig that far down to be able to unbear to like get him.

SPEAKER_12:

So it's still on the license building a basement.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah, even building a basement. I was I don't know. That dude was buried almost like 20 feet. Like Shikamaru was like a spec with it.

SPEAKER_12:

You know, in the Ninja World, like you can be like a basement, like, okay, uh, let's have like an underground hideout, you know.

SPEAKER_13:

You mean a shelter? Like, right? Yeah, yeah, underground. And Shikamaru started smoking. I remember he started smoking.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, it's like, oh yeah, uh, I like that one part where once he got that gift fat, he started smoking, and then he just put that lighter up and uh can take a drink.

SPEAKER_13:

Smoking on that pet.

SPEAKER_08:

Oh, I love that he done pet. Yeah, put one out for my I said, put one out for my homie too. Go ahead, smoke one up with me. Oh god. I'll tell you, I I I would tell you that scene right there was probably the one that's going to the moment where Osma I would be like Osma's like, he did good, my boy.

SPEAKER_12:

I'm probably and then just vague.

SPEAKER_08:

I'm talking about like reaction videos and stuff. Black people's most re most people I've seen have like the best reaction to that one, to that specific scene of him like smoking up my homie, bro, was like a real one.

SPEAKER_12:

I mean, I feel like that scene was for the black community in a weird way. It's almost like that's something like, yeah, we feel that. We feel that.

SPEAKER_13:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. We the black delegation, we we gonna go ahead and adopt Osma.

SPEAKER_12:

I mean, that's kind of why I think Narzo is one of those shows where it's definitely like crazy enough, it's like I mean, yeah, there is black uh representation, but it's like in a weird way, it's like a certified hood classic because like a lot of people in the black community uh fuck with uh narco.

SPEAKER_13:

We can trade what's the name for um Osma. Uh what's that dude's name Derek Daria from Daria from the Sand? Wait, what's he from the sand?

SPEAKER_08:

Oh bro, I thought you meant Daria, like Daria from no that black dude, that black dude from the sand.

SPEAKER_13:

I think he was from the sand. Darius? No, no, no, no, no, no. You know what I'm talking about?

SPEAKER_12:

Talk about I'm trying to think like a black dude from the sand, though.

SPEAKER_13:

I think he was from the sand, he might have been from uh lightning.

SPEAKER_12:

Okay, if you're talking about the lightning.

SPEAKER_08:

Uh congrats his name. Let's say you're talking about the lightlight, the lightning people kid people from the clouds. Wait, hold on.

SPEAKER_00:

Were you talking about the Rui? Oh, yeah, is that his name? The black lightning, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, that yeah, no, the root. Yeah, we played him for Austin. No, no, I played it. No, that's how I remember him.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah, yeah. I do start with a D. I know who you're talking about, but no, no, bro. Why we why we no, we ain't gotta trade. No, no, don't do that. We already got a black lightning. What's wrong with having some both?

SPEAKER_13:

But we can't trade killer be because he beat the size.

SPEAKER_08:

Pause midfight to like, hold on, I gotta fix my rhyme real quick because I just got a bit a better rhyme while beating you up.

SPEAKER_13:

And he dropped a mixtape and beat or ass at the same time.

SPEAKER_12:

Jesus Christ. But uh, hold on, hold on, hold on. Like let's kind of wrap it up a little bit. Uh essentially, uh, while Sti Gamaro was fighting Hear, uh, everybody else pretty much fighting Kakazu. Turns out he has five hearts, each of them with like different chakra nature. So uh, you know, chakra nature once again trying to play into a factory. But um, while Joji, you know, and the rest is like having a hard time fighting him, whatnot with threads and whatnot, all that shit, like it was kind of crazy for me. And um Naruto pulls up and he got a new technique, the Ross and Sherry. And he gets like three clones just to make sure he gets it right, and then charges up at Kagazo, and then Kagazoo just gang decimated. You see all those fucking cuts all over his body and whatnot, kills and whatnot. And I'm like, fuck. Naruto just killed a custom member. I mean, like, that's crazy because I'm like Naruto. How do you let Soccer get one on you?

SPEAKER_08:

Hold on, don't do that. Remember, we we not we're not soccer shaming.

SPEAKER_12:

No, I just I'm just saying, like, no, I'm not saying I'm not shaming soccer. I'm just saying, like, damn, Naruto, like, you need to get together because soccer just beat us the same.

SPEAKER_08:

Can't stand anime version for soccer. You can't stand the anime version. You can't stand anime version of her. That's it. Don't don't do it.

SPEAKER_13:

Yeah. Cause she's useless, bro. Good lord. And you know what? Honestly, just to be honest, the one thing that I really can't stand about soccer is she is so selfish and she don't understand stuff about her. She's weak as hell compared to Naruto and Saskick. Everybody else, okay. Even the standards. But look, when she says, I finally caught up to you too. No, the hell you didn't.

SPEAKER_08:

That's and and see, this is the whole reason I had made this whole thing on the last episode. I'm not you're not gonna argue in this because we gotta wrap it up like it is that like JB said. So I'm gonna just end it on this little note, okay? So again, you're hating on the anime version of Sakura. Okay, very specific, very specific. I I agree. Yes, I agree.

SPEAKER_13:

So just the anime version.

SPEAKER_08:

Okay, just want to make sure we have that understanding because in the manga, she's very clearly made up with all of that stuff. That's as far as as far as physical strength, she is the physically strongest one when it comes down to jutsu. She is the best when it comes to in jutsu.

SPEAKER_14:

Now, granted, not definitely in jutsu, chakra control.

SPEAKER_08:

She actually is the best into that. So, yes, she has quite a few feats of her being great into it. It's just that she does not have as many flashy moves as everyone else has. Seeing that.

SPEAKER_12:

That's what I've been saying the whole time. It's not that soccer is useless, she's just getting overshadowed by the agency that Naruto, Sasuke, and other characters have. Like, in other words, it's almost like she's taking a back burner because you know, she wasn't written to take the forefront itself for like at the last minute to where you know the whole fourth war where everybody's getting involved anyway. So he might as well do something, right?

SPEAKER_13:

Would you say she's the most powerful medical ninja?

SPEAKER_09:

To be honest with you, uh pre-borator. Um I mean, come on.

SPEAKER_08:

I didn't watch Morator. So I don't even know. I'm trying to think. Hold on. By the end of the series, you mean? By the end of the screen? Yeah, by the end of the series. Yeah, I'll give her that.

SPEAKER_13:

Why she couldn't fix Mike God now?

SPEAKER_08:

Why he in the wheelchair? Oh, no. So here's his hold on, here's the thing. That's important for you to understand about the about the eight gates and stuff, my guy. Because the thing, she can't fix what's dead. That's a whole different thing. Okay, because remember, the eight gates, the eighth gate is the gate of death. His body is was dying as he was in that gate, as he was doing stuff. His will kept him alive, kept his spirit attached to his body. But realistically, his spirit's attached to a to a half-dead body, to a core spirit of music. Exactly. So the thing about it is this is the fact that he can keep his spirit attached to his body, but the body's dead. Like those parts of parts of his body, like his fingers, his his legs, a good portion of the lower half of his body, even part of his arms, those things are dead. My guy. Like he you can't heal what's dead. That's a whole different thing. You can heal anything.

SPEAKER_12:

I mean, hold on. There was, I mean, okay, there might be some implications, but there was the last art where Chio used her uh technique to revive Garo. So I'm thinking like maybe to a lesser extent. Uh, because that's the thing. The technique, yes, it might kind of revive and resuscitate somebody, but it requires your life force. So it's almost like even if it was possible, who would take that risk to sacrifice their years of years of their life just to make sure that this guy can well, it's funny how I say guy, this guy, but uh just to make sure that guy can like walk again and shit. I'm like, who's gonna take that risk?

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah, plus guy, you know, keep in mind the type of person that he is, he's not finna have soccer, do that type of stuff, bro.

SPEAKER_06:

That's like happening.

SPEAKER_08:

And keep in mind, this is also compared to what happened to guy's legs, what happened to Orochimaru's arms. Remember when Orochimaru kept trying everything to bring his arms back, but he's like he couldn't fix the fact that his arms were dead. That's just what it was. He had to literally abandon that entire body. He tried rejuvenating it, he tried all those different types of medical juices, he tried literally everything, and there was no way to reanimate those arms again. They're literally just dead.

SPEAKER_13:

Yeah, don't even start on that waste of the third Hokage dying.

SPEAKER_08:

Really for no reason, he ended up having the arms again, like okay, because he had to he had to give up that body and go to a whole new body. That's just how it worked out. So keep in mind this there's a point into that. That's the reason why I was like, there's no there was no way for her to do that. Like, we're talking about resurrection. We're talking, like, mean yeah, we had a whole zombie thing filler clearly that I completely missed the battle on. But either way, it's one of those ones like you can't you gotta treat the dead as dead. That's just how it still works in Naruto, unless you're doing a revival technique.

SPEAKER_12:

Also, it'll defeat the purpose of the main plot of Naruto trying to become Hokage to earn the respect of his village. Because if you keep reviving these Hokages, that kind of defeats the purpose of Naruto becoming a Hokage. It's almost like in a buffed up way, it's like, oh well, your time has come, the future is now old, man.

SPEAKER_08:

Keep him keeping it. I mean, they could have just kept the second Hokage a lot. Uh no, no, it was his time. Because keep mind, even each of the Hokka said this during the moderate war. And I know we're kind of jumping in, so I apologize, but they you said this a lot. Their time is done, like that's just it. They were just like, Look, our time is past, like that's that's it, we're done. There's no point in us being here anymore, it's against nature for us to still be here. So, like, it's time for let us go. It's time for you guys to take over and do things now. That's it.

SPEAKER_13:

Yeah, and we talked a lot about um heed on, but what about kakuzo?

SPEAKER_12:

Bro, listen, I love how Kakuzoo is a paper getter. Like, I just love that part about him where I was like, he's up on his paper, like, I need to get paid. Like, all right, he done grab these bodies. Let's go on, drop it off to that one place where they want these cadavers, so we can go ahead and get paid and get the fuck out of here. Outside of that, I thought Kazuzu's abilities were pretty cool, the way he had like the five cards, uh strings and whatnot like that.

SPEAKER_13:

Different covers.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah. So I thought he was interesting as a character to go up against where I'm like, okay, he's like, I think honestly, all Akashi members are fairly tricky, but Kazuzu is more like, oh my god, it feels like fighting uh a boss monster, you know, where it's like you got. Attack this hard and then this one, this one, and all that. And then on top of that, it's almost like he like roll new ones or some shit like that. And like, oh yeah, what we're gonna do about this guy. And then next thing you know, Naruto's like, nah, I got something. I'm gonna take this Russell Shurigan and I'm gonna hit him with it. And what he's gonna do is there's gonna be so many micro cuts that it's gonna like decimate every atom of his being. Like we gotta literally erase this guy. Like, there's not gonna be a body left for them to even identify.

SPEAKER_08:

So we really point out how dangerous the rising shuriken really actually is.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, they did say they was a band jutsu. Like they were saying, like, oh, oh, yeah, yeah, like we appreciate what you did, but like on that note, you never do that anymore. Yeah, don't do that no more.

SPEAKER_08:

That was uh that that was crazy. I was like, but it I understand it's a very dangerous jutsu in itself.

SPEAKER_12:

I mean Rossinga alone is A-ranked, so like okay, that applies. That's what you did. No, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_08:

Eradication of persons from existence. I mean, Kakuzu, like as long as he has one heart left, then he can reanimate his entire body, and he has no use reanimation like crazy.

SPEAKER_12:

Oh, like god damn, Naruto. You you a cold motherfucker now. Like, you not just you didn't just take a Kosky member, you made it to where you're like, You can't even find his body.

SPEAKER_08:

We we we had to go to cell, like cell number from Dragon Ball Z. Like, oh, you gotta destroy you if you can destroy that nucleus, you can come right back. That part to make sure that look, I'm actually curious. Do you think that would have killed Hidon?

SPEAKER_09:

Maybe, maybe because think about it.

SPEAKER_12:

Like, once again, like all he done had to do is rate a John Cena and whatnot, and he is pretty good. Like, he'll be like um Andy from I know, but like it's still uh kind of reveling now, where like he's still gonna be alive regardless, but if your whole body got decimated, like so in the soul games.

SPEAKER_08:

I'm like, I mean that's one of the ones I can't do. There's gotta be something to recover from.

SPEAKER_12:

It's almost like saying, uh, I think tomorrow, uh, like, yeah, I got my get back, but like, you lucky my boy Naruto didn't do it.

SPEAKER_08:

Oh gosh, that part is that I don't know, but that's what it was a question I was very curious about into it. Um, but Kazu was actually, is it Kazuya? No, Kakazoo. Kakazu was a very interesting character to me into the fact of how it is that he went through things. Like I used to use a paper chaser. For him, it was like, look, man, I'll do anything in the money, right? That's just how it worked. But I loved how he and Hidan just did not get along because they both were like this whole, I'm the immortal one. Well, I'm immortal too, and they both realistically was about to like fight each other to the quote unquote death.

SPEAKER_12:

No, and that's crazy, but I like how in a way with these pairings, it's like the costume members, it's hard to tell if they really fuck with each other, except for a pain and um Conan to where like you know they fuck with everybody else, it's more like I mean he's a co-worker, but I don't really like that. It's kind of like that. Um it was definitely the case with Hila and Cosmos. They make a great team, or they just almost like it's like Joro and Sonji all over again to where like great team, great duo, but they can't not stand each other.

SPEAKER_08:

It's like you see that motherfucker right there? I can't stand that motherfucker.

SPEAKER_12:

But he gets the job done though. It's almost my love hating. Let me tell you that I'm the biggest hater.

SPEAKER_08:

It was good, Lord Almighty, bro. They was just they was at each other's throats all the time. I was like, dang, bro, why y'all hate each other so much, baby? Oh gosh.

SPEAKER_06:

Wait, also, we did get an opportunity to seem a little bit more zet.

SPEAKER_14:

We didn't get who partnered in together, bro.

SPEAKER_13:

That's like he knew what he was doing, bro. He said, Hey, you immortal, you immortal, you know what?

SPEAKER_12:

No, no, no, no, no, no, crazy. No, wait, wait, wait, wait. Was it Obito who told Payne to paired them up? Because remember, like Payne's book the figurehead member. So I'm like thinking, like, okay, hey, tell uh you don't come to the guy where he is all right, bro.

SPEAKER_13:

Payne was the figurehead for Obito, who was the figurehead for Modera, who was the figurehead for that lady who was the figurehead. Wait, no, no, no, no. I forgot about the black and white people.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's what I was about to say. We get a chance to see some of the Zetsu in this as well, too. Like we get a chance to see a little bit more into uh like how white was it? Was it white Zetsu?

SPEAKER_07:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_08:

Um, a little bit more of him like in the series because he makes an appearance and it's like a mist another mysterious person who shows up and it's like, okay, so how are we gonna fight shooting? He's like great about it.

SPEAKER_12:

He was like really he was like really like like just acting like okay, first of all, he was like the only one who didn't have to have a part because then he gets like black and white sensors, but uh he was like, Oh, I'm just deserving, like don't mind me. I'm just watching, I'm just gonna wipe, watch, I'm gonna um buy my time, and when my time comes, that's when I strike it. When he fucking got active, yeah, you got it. But uh for time being you would just chill him for this watching.

SPEAKER_08:

Oh, yeah. So I like how we get a chance to end this part of shit, but then we're like every arc is based upon an Akatsuki member who's so bounded and dangerous that you gotta gank up on this motherfucker to kill him. It's like it's just dangerous.

SPEAKER_13:

You gotta jump these men.

SPEAKER_12:

It's like you see these 10 men and well, nine men and one one. Yeah, jump them on site, like fuck all that Japanese uh honor and shit, like no fuck all that. Jump, just jump.

SPEAKER_13:

I know this was 10 years ago.

SPEAKER_14:

Oh my phone.

SPEAKER_08:

Oh, okay. No, no, no, you did. I was gonna say, look, we had this conversation earlier because we had because we did a review for Undead Unlocked, and so what happened is that last week I found out that there's actually a particular reason why it is that we have this trope of you have to let the person power up, and it's not just because of like oh, for the anime thing, it's because it's like Japanese honor. So literally, the thing about it is it's like during the samurai war, like during the samurai Edo period, it was a big thing for the fact that you wouldn't attack someone if they weren't ready to fight. It was considered dishonorable to like attack from the behind, which is why only the shinobi did that. Shinobi's always sneak attack, but a samurai warrior has to announce that they're going to like clap your cheeks type thing.

SPEAKER_12:

It's weird because Naruto was on some samurai type shit in the very beginning of Naruto's work. You remember the bell test where okay, Sasuke and Saga were trying to be uh sneaky about it, but then Naruto's like, hey, I'm here to take those bells off.

SPEAKER_13:

I was gonna say, I just I know this was 10 years ago, but when I turned 23, right? My friend wrote me a um birthday card and he said, now that you're 23, the Kotsky is gonna come looking for you. I'm like, God dang, I shouldn't have turned 23. So just random.

SPEAKER_08:

I mean, 23 and me. No, I'm just kidding. It'd be crazy. What if that's the crazy way to find out? You oh, what if you never knew you had a tail beast inside you? What if that thing just stays asleep all these years because it was just lazy as hell, and then all of a sudden it showed up, knock your door. We need to uh we got a monster inside you, we need to get out. You'd be like, wait, what?

SPEAKER_12:

Well, yeah, I mean I've been fairly dormant for a while, but it was mainly because it was like kind of uh influencing your mood swings that explain your mood swings, but for the most part, it's just been dormant for a little while, you know what I'm saying? So, like, we don't have to extract that from you if you don't mind on like it's not gonna hurt, right? I'm like, no, no, no. Because after that, you're gonna be resting so peacefully that you're gonna be resting for the rest of your life. I'm like, wait, wait, what do you mean resting from the rest of my life? I'm like, hey, don't worry about it, don't worry about it.

SPEAKER_13:

That doesn't sound right. Hey, it's it's like you're gonna be in the deepest sleep you've ever been in. That's all.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, almost like a coma life sleep. I'm like, I don't know if that's not the type of hey man, don't worry about this. Come on, come on. We got candy.

SPEAKER_13:

What am I? Seven. Not the candy, bruh. It reminds me of um hot down my rock, bro. He did that Mario Luigi told me she had candy. Candy, what is she seven? I ain't saving Pete no more. That is a crazy dynamic too. Mario really don't save her.

SPEAKER_00:

Let Valor keep the bit.

SPEAKER_13:

Like, bruh, on God. Like, yo, all that he supposed to be a plumber. Supposed to plumb some shit. Lay down some pipe. Ain't it? And she just she over there just getting kidnapped. She keeps going to the same nigga house.

SPEAKER_08:

You know, they did officially confirm the fact that Peach and Mario are just friends, but that there's not gonna be a relationship between them.

SPEAKER_13:

And you know what's crazy? She would have she would have been saving herself. She would have been like cheetah girls. Got a I don't want no prints saving me. Mm-mm. Been like cheetah girl, bro.

SPEAKER_12:

No, Mario needs to be like, hey yo, you know I'll put that bitch anyway. I'll just fly to Rosalina.

SPEAKER_13:

Oh god. Bro, she would have never got saved. On God, she would have never got saved. Ain't no way I'm gonna be just a friend to keep saving you, girl. You better leave that. I'm leaving here with something.

SPEAKER_08:

You know, there's no iteration that Link and Zelda ever get together either, right?

SPEAKER_13:

I know you lying.

SPEAKER_08:

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_10:

No, no, listen, listen.

SPEAKER_08:

Look, Breath of the Wild and um Breath of the Wild and Tears of Kingdom have already been out for a good couple years now, so I can I can it's not even a spoiler to this one. So in Breath of the Wild and Tears of Kingdom is the closest one where Link and Zelda would have gotten together. But what happened is in Breath of the Wild, you find out that uh Zelda actually likes a girl. She likes one of the other heroes. She's uh nice, she's tall, dark, and pretty, and uh and super strong.

unknown:

Uh-huh.

SPEAKER_13:

I know that's who's gonna be. And if I was Link, you know what? I would have had two girlfriends. Fuck.

SPEAKER_12:

But no, listen, listen. This is why I was telling like uh some of the uh ladies on the podcast every now and then and whatnot. Listen, like, how do y'all explain the whole thing with Peach also getting kidnapped by Bowser or whatnot? Mark got saved or whatnot. Meanwhile, uh same thing with Zelda, she's getting captured by Ganondorf or uh Botsi or whoever it is, and like they always get um captured by the bad boy, and you, Mr. Good Guy, have to rescue her from her problems, and you know you got saved from these streets, and that's if they're destiny hero.

SPEAKER_08:

You know, each you know, each girl has a has her own game where they have to rescue the guy.

SPEAKER_13:

That's good.

SPEAKER_08:

Zelda's is more recent. Zelda's is more recent, but there is there are two pre-peach games where Mario gets captured and Zelda and uh pre impeached, sorry, has to go rescue him, has to go rescue him.

SPEAKER_13:

I bet that game is hard as hell, too.

SPEAKER_08:

No, actually it's considered extremely easy because a lot of abilities that she can.

SPEAKER_13:

Well, why the hell is she gonna save herself?

SPEAKER_08:

Exactly. Wait, hold on.

SPEAKER_12:

Is it like so? Did she like Mary as soon as she gets some agency? Now she wants to be a Mary Sue.

SPEAKER_08:

So understand that. That's one of the things that people's like, hold on a second. So you mean to tell me that Peach has all these different abilities underway that she can run through, kick zoom, kick on Zoomball's like it's nothing, and then when she the final boss is fighting Bowser and she was able to beat him, and he's like, So you mean to tell me this is just solidify No no listen?

SPEAKER_12:

Imagine Link. Um I mean, I know he's like fighting all those different monsters, whatnot. He's trying to sell uh you know stay alive and whatnot. But can you imagine Lincoln captured and he'd see all that in 4K, watching Zelda trying to save and whatnot, you know, like in typical uh mustache swirling villain fashion where the villain has her adventures on 4K and Link is just watching in like maybe like a cell or some shit, watching the whole shit, and then by the time Zelda shows up, uh Link just then they're like all confused, mad hell is uh with hands up, like this.

SPEAKER_09:

What the fuck? You could have all these abilities you got, and you just you have hold on. I was putting it in this eye water, I I did that.

SPEAKER_08:

I can only defend Zelda kingdoms for your errors. But I can only defend Zelda. This is the only reason I can defend Zelda into this one, unlike Peach and all those other ones, in every single time Zelda is helping Link fight Ganon. In fact, in multiple of those iterations, because Zelda is constantly fighting Ganon until Link shows up to deliver the final blow, per se, is the reason why Ganon had not done a full takeover of the of all of Hyrule every single time. It's actually is literally canon in almost every single game that Zelda is constantly fighting Ganon. So she is actually doing something to help out. There's only two times so far in the series where Zelda was able to like try to handle things on her own, and she still could not do so. So in in Zelda's latest game, now I'm it's it's still new, so I'm not gonna spoil it. Let's just put it in this aspect. She can't defeat Ganon by herself. I'm gonna put it that way. Unlike with Princess Peach, who was able to defeat Bowser by herself, Zelda still could not defeat Ganon by herself. The other iteration is with Ocarina of Time, where we get introduced to Sheik. Because remember, there's an iteration where because Link winds up transporting into the future, what happens is the hero of time disappears from that reality because he's just gone. Because it's not that he teleports into the future. What happens is that he goes into like a stasis and he's just stuck there for 10 years until he reawakens into the future. Yeah. So that's pretty much what winds up happening. So Zelda had to fight Ganon, so she turned into Sheik, using her Sheikai abilities or ninja, her shinobi abilities to be able to constantly fight Ganon, and she still cannot defeat Ganon by herself. She had been fighting him for 10 years and still couldn't do anything except just try to hold him back, but he still wound up nearly taking over all of Hyrule. So I can only defend Zelda in that aspect that she does fight, she's just not strong enough to do anything, to do everything. Not gonna say anything, but to do everything. She is always fighting. Up behind Ben could have got out, she's there on purpose. She's trying to get him, she's trying to get his attention. And why is all this relevant to this series? Because that's why we're not soccer fame, and as she put it, because soccer is not a damsel distress here, she handles business anyway.

SPEAKER_12:

See, that's the thing. I think um soccer being useless. I I feel like that's not the case. I feel like some dudes, because notice how like I don't think a whole lot of the ladies uh who watch Naruto is saying that she's useless. But uh, I think a lot of the dudes would probably say she's useless because uh not not only because she got overshadowed, but maybe on some bitter shit, they just feel like, oh well, you should have got with my um boy Naruto, like you keep trying to um curve him and shit for Sasuke.

SPEAKER_01:

That that dude don't love you, girl. Like, why you keep running after him? Like, oh, you hooked up with Naruto and like, no, no.

SPEAKER_12:

Um it doesn't work that way. It's like, hey man, like we like who we like. If uh Sakura likes Sasuke, hey, just let it be what it is. I mean, um, personally, I say that uh it's great that Naruto hooks up with Hinata. I was great for Hinata, anyways. But um if Sakura wants to go after Sasuke, then I say to the later, like whatever, fuck it. Uh but uh I think the main thing is that really pissed people off was when Sakura gave in, gave up on the fact that Sasuke is coming back, especially after um Sasuke went as far as he did, like leading up to the fourth war. It's like, oh well, you know, uh, I don't think there's a chance that Sasuke is coming back. So if that's the case, then maybe we can give us a chance. And then Naruto just stood there, like, hey, don't worry about it. We'll we'll try to get him back. Like, no, no, no, we'll get back. And I'm like, Naruto was like, nah, I ain't going for that, fam. Like, I listen, like, I know I was feeling you um for a chapter, but I ain't taking you in, I ain't take you on based on desperation. Because it seems like, oh, you finally give me a chance now that you your plan A gone rogue, so it's like, oh, I guess it's time for the plan B ninja to shine. Nah, listen, listen, listen. I'm the person I know this story. You ain't gonna treat me that way. I'm gonna find a new bitch. Like, I bet that appreciates me for who I am. I bet that been seeing me the whole time, you know what I'm saying? I know I gotta put a little wall in there, but what was that even going on with this all this? We were talking about Lincoln.

SPEAKER_10:

Mario shit.

SPEAKER_12:

I was just I wasn't so but anyways, Sakura. She's not really useless, but just overshadowed, and exactly exactly, yeah.

SPEAKER_13:

It honestly, if you compare it against anybody else on any other team, she be shining, but she had to get the toughest two people on a team, like bro.

SPEAKER_12:

I mean, both of them.

SPEAKER_13:

So you can't get around that, and then Sasuke and Naruto and love, so like you can't get around love, you can't beat love.

SPEAKER_10:

No, you it's

SPEAKER_12:

I'm gonna rewatch throughout and learn that song.

SPEAKER_13:

So yeah. Even though Sakura was in love with Sasuke, and Sasuke was in love with himself, and Naruto was in love with Sakura, like it was an ugh so much.

SPEAKER_08:

That's not even a triangle.

SPEAKER_13:

Even though Naruto and Sasuke had their first kiss, like it was a lot a lot of stuff going on. And even Naruto did a clone of Sasuke so that he could get close to Sakura. It's too much.

SPEAKER_12:

I would say it's more like a love angle. Like not triangle, but a love angle. You know, like a 90-degree angle to where uh there's Naruto at one point, and there's Sakura at another point, and then Sasuke at one point to where like Naruto is going for Sakura. Sakura ain't going for Naruto, but she is going for Sasuke and just and then Sasuke is just going straight up Mictown.

SPEAKER_13:

So yeah, she did try to go for Naruto at one point.

SPEAKER_10:

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like, uh, you're like, oh well, I love you too, Naruto. Like, you know what, fam, don't worry about it. Like, we'll get Sasuke back.

SPEAKER_13:

Yeah, but every time, just picture this though. It's really giving me peach and Mario because every single time soccer in deep trouble, so you know what I'm talking about, and then boom, show up like magic. I'm like, pain pain art.

SPEAKER_00:

I mean, and I guess I can understand it.

SPEAKER_10:

I can understand it if it was like a heroic entry, you know, like, oh well, all is lost. We need a hero. We need a hero.

SPEAKER_14:

You know, that's holding up for you.

SPEAKER_08:

It's not like any ashome. Because I'll be honest with you, I went back and rewatched any ash. As much as people talk about, like, they don't say anyasha kagome that much. I think that's like four times every episode. Every episode, every single episode.

SPEAKER_13:

Hey, look though, pain all the time. She doesn't say that much in the first few episodes, yes, huh?

SPEAKER_12:

Can you imagine uh Hood Burger Inyasa and it's like just Kagome just uh popping up on Inayanta's like, oh, you need to get a job, you need it and all that other shit.

SPEAKER_10:

Like, bro, I would watch that.

SPEAKER_12:

Like, let me find out let me find out it's on YouTube.

SPEAKER_08:

Oh, don't don't give away our plans, man. That's the fucking way our appreciation. We can do that.

SPEAKER_12:

Hey, hey, no, no, no, hold on, wait a minute, wait a minute. Because despite how many people do it, it's about who's the best that did it.

SPEAKER_13:

Yeah, that's a fact.

SPEAKER_12:

So it doesn't matter how many, it's just more you just gotta be the best one to do it.

SPEAKER_08:

You can tell me to see because there's two JJK uh bridge series that I'm watching right now. One was like Anime Boys and Rap So Petty, and I'm just like, I like them both for two different ways. So yeah, I can see that. I understand what you mean.

SPEAKER_12:

We're gonna have to uh talk to Cali and uh MJ and all that. Like, hey yo, so we got new angle for the Indiasa Brit. So like it's gonna be who any yesterday. We're gonna need one of y'all to be like be kakome, but uh like be like very loud and like really like inny outside's face, like, you know, being that one chick where it's like she's always like yelling at the dude, and any other just sitting there like, man, bitch, what the fuck you want?

SPEAKER_11:

Like, god damn.

SPEAKER_08:

I'm bull, I'm bo I'm voting out there being a Byron character. I don't even know.

SPEAKER_09:

I'm like, oh my god, what do you want? I'm like, as long as we ain't got that.

SPEAKER_08:

Oh, yeah. All right, but otherwise, like realistically, a lot of these arcs are like short arcs per se. It's one of those ones that when I went back and started re-watching the series, I swore that these episodes were longer. But I forgot that you know nowadays people ain't gotta worry about waiting for the new episode to drop like that because almost every series is like coming out when it's done.

SPEAKER_13:

They don't gotta go to school on Monday and missed it on Saturday and just missed it. You gotta, you gotta, you can't catch up to the next Saturday, bro. Exactly. Like, you don't understand the struggles that we dealt with. Like, hey, y'all seen Goku turn super sad, bruh. Goku turned super sad. I had to go to sleep early because I was in trouble.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12:

But no, like it's crazy how they uh I remember that day when Goku turned Super Saiyan for the first time. And then my friend and I just could not shut the fuck up about it when we rolled a bit of school the next day.

SPEAKER_08:

That fucking I'm gonna beat, bro. I'm gonna be very honest with you on that. I we have to say we cannot say for the first time. That was actually before us. The first time he was Super Saiyan was actually in the 80s before we were born. Really? It was like yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, so it was it was when because the series was already so Dragon Ball Z had already gotten to the point by the time we watched it from the beginning, when they were in the um fighting against uh Raditz at the beginning, they already had just finished the cell soccer. And Toriyama again said that he was be done and he didn't want to continue it on. It wasn't America that was actually saying, Oh, you need to continue on the series after um freeze the saga and then it created the cell soccer. It was strictly mostly just Japan and a lot of Asian countries because that's all that was there for it. Dragon Ball Z had not actually made that made it over this way yet. We only still had the early 80s animes like uh Astro Boy, Sailor Moon, and stuff. Those was that already came over by that point, but we did not have Dragon Ball Z yet, even though it was already significantly further. And it's crazy how we had Dragon Ball Z first and then Dragon Ball. Exactly. I was able to watch the Boo Saga before the Boot Saga, I was able to finish the Boo Saga before it finished airing in the United States because my brothers were able to find it um when the internet was early, early. So you but you couldn't find it like on your own personal laptop. They actually went to a anime, they went to an anime convention, one of the first ones in Dalasta in Georgia, and um where we would lived at. And so because they got an opportunity to go there, they were able to find someone who was able to get the actual Dragon Ball Z DVD set online over there, like to be shipped over there. So I was able to watch the Bu Saga and finish it before it finished airing because he was able to get a connect like that. But it was like, yeah, with that series had actually been finished by the time we got it over here. So we say that like for us by the time we finished it and then got to the suit, then we watched GT. Understand that GT was also already considered production before we finished the blue soccer. GT was so trash, by the way.

SPEAKER_13:

Yeah, it wasn't bad. We're not gonna go into that. GT was not that bad, bro. It wasn't, but it compared to everything else.

SPEAKER_12:

It was like half and half where it's like one article is man, and then the number of articles, like, okay, hold on.

SPEAKER_13:

I am the hope of the universe, I am the answer to all living things to cry out from peace, boy. Goku was spitting. Trying to tell you, I was like, dang, I can't believe it. He's a super saiyan.

SPEAKER_08:

That part. Um, I'm trying to, I don't think I have anything else to mention on to this particular episode. So I am going to prepare myself for the next episode because the next art, that's one that I'm a little bit more excited about. Because maybe we get an opportunity.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah. Um, about that. Yes. That will be it for the Naruto Secretary stream review. Uh, the next part that we're gonna be covering. Oh, this one's gonna be good. It's Zasuke versus Itachi. We get the Two Brothers.

SPEAKER_00:

Let's get into it. But until then, y'all take it easy, y'all.

SPEAKER_12:

Stay nerdy. We're gonna make things happen, all that shit. All right, continuing the Naruto Shirdon Extreme Review with a couple arcs. We got the Itachi Pursuit arc, we got the Juraya the Gallant arc, we have the thing like I don't wanna rush into things like okay, there's Itachi Pursuit, uh Jirah the Gallant, there was oh yeah, uh, that's when afterwards that's Sasuke versus Itachi the tail of two brothers, and then from that point, we just pretty much easing into the invasion of pain arc. So that's the plan for this segment. Playboy, I thank you for being on for this segment, and uh I hope the chuck jumped on. Oh, I don't know what's going on, but we gotta keep it moving. So let's just go ahead and zoom right in on it. Starting with the Itachi Pursuit arc, I'm gonna be honest with you, it was okay. Like, for the most part, like the main two takeaways from the Itachi Pursuit arc, aside from okay, Sasuke is done with Orochimar. He feels like, okay, I learned enough from you, old man, so I'm gonna zorb you into my body. And he's going out recruiting Karin Jugo and Suigetsu. And I'm fucking rolling when I see the memes about Jugo essentially being the Hulk, and Sasuke is like his black widow, is like uh the Sasuke, big guy. Oh yeah, but uh yeah, he's assuming the crew, um Karing Yugo and Sujutsu, and while that's happening, he's trying to hunt down Itachi. He got some info that Itachi's like nearby, and the elite village find out about this, so they figure, okay, let's hunt down Itachi because that'd be like our best shot at finding Sasuke. So while this was happening, Naruto ran into Itachi, or I want to say like a clone of him. You know how Itachi is with the crows and shit. Like he talked to Itachi, let's put it like that. Meanwhile, Sasuke ended up fighting with Datar, and also there's that you know, kind of funny when uh I saw Sakura and Karin kind of passing by each other. Like, oh man, if only they interacted. Uh that might explain why Sarata had those glasses. I don't know. But uh the main thing is, you know, Naruto telling Itashi that oh, I'm more of a brother to him than you ever were. And I'm saying her like, Naruto, if only you knew. If only you knew, and the main thing was the fight between Sasuke versus Datora. I thought it was pretty good, where Dador was using his clay golems and whatnot, trying to attack Sasuke, them exploding all that, and in the end of the hall, he used himself, you know, he had like stitches into his chest, and he kind of used himself as a living bomb, and it just blew up in this spectacular way. And I just thought it was pretty cool, like it was okay, like at the very least, those were the main two things that I wanted to talk about, where like, okay, it's cool that Naruto had the interaction with Itachi, especially after all that content, you know, the first time they met. And uh, I still think that was the funniest thing about this series where the first time Naruto met Itachi, and you see him open the door, you see those big uh red eyes just glaring at him.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh, yeah, Craig, I just seen a clip of that, I think today or yesterday. Um but what was funnier about that scene, well, not even about that scene in particular, was like the moment right before when uh they was all having a meeting in a room, and uh Sasuke went in there, he was like, What's going on here? Where's Naruto? And nobody said nothing. And then this random ninja nobody ever heard of comes in and was like, Um, is it true that Itachi's back and he's looking for Naruto?

SPEAKER_03:

Like he just comes in and explores the whole fucking plane.

SPEAKER_05:

The Sasuke like just start running to Naruto's door, then he runs to the wrong room. He's knocking on the door and shit. He's like, You not Naruto? And then fucking Naruto opened the door and there's Itachi standing there. It's like, what the fuck? Yeah, like you didn't see this big ass Uchio sign on this man's back of his shirt when you walked in the door.

SPEAKER_12:

Right. Now, I just I still love the way they drew Itachi's where it seemed like you know how they had that it they making them look really intense, especially in the eye area where you know it had like the shading and whatnot. They just really wanted to let you know that, oh yeah, this is really to kill this little boy.

SPEAKER_05:

Notice every time he comes on the screen, bro, they always start from the feet up, they never just go straight to his eyes. It's always a dramatic, slow raising the camera, like as if we were bowing down and we're looking up at this nigga every single time he's on the camera, but he's always aura farmer.

SPEAKER_12:

I guarantee more than I mean, psychologically speaking, I guess that makes sense considering we have all these Itachi fanboys, so a lot of people look up to him.

SPEAKER_05:

Bro, that nigga just the camera's always panning up from the feet down up to this man.

SPEAKER_02:

Then he just got the shot and gone, like, oh no, and he never got regular eyes, bro. He's so that shit crazy.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, like ever since he joined the Akashi, you never see him with normal eyes except you know, the final fight. But outside of that, yeah, like it's like he constantly turning on. Like, you just gotta let it's like you gotta have the constant mind. Oh, yeah, that's Sasuke's brother.

SPEAKER_02:

That big brother energy, man.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, oh man, bro, that fight. Like, I know this is like in Naruto part one, but like I just imagine, like, one of those fights, like you. I I know I have an older brother, and it's kind of like that, but not really. But it's like every now and then you uh just have this tussle with your older brother, and it's like just feel so unfair because you're just like really trying to beat him, and it's like, bro, you like work. But uh yeah, like how would you feel about the Itachi Psu art?

SPEAKER_05:

True, man. Like, I gotta say, it was it was a it was a good ass art, man. Because you know, he's one of my favorite characters, so I definitely thought we was gonna get a whole well, I knew it was gonna get a whole lot more like into his story. I at first watching it, I thought it was gonna go a little unless you like watch filler. I thought it was gonna go more deeper into like his story, like like without watching, because when I watched it, I was watching on a website, so I didn't I didn't see like anything about Shippuden from when it aired on shows, you know what I'm saying? Because I was kind of skeptical and watching it at the time. But then when I finally did start watching it, I had no knowledge of it, so I was kind of you know, hope I was hoping for more of like a backstory between the Tachi back in the Dombo days, between him and uh Shisui, you know what I'm saying? But it did go into a little bit of it, but like it was mostly focused on the separation between Naruto and Sasuke both looking for a touch, you know what I'm saying? But when it did get to that point, I focused more on Sasuke because this is what he wanted from the very beginning, from the very beginning when we know when we've known Sasuke, this was his mission before we knew it was his mission. The whole emote, it was because of this guy. This is the moment we've been looking. If you were a Sasuke fan, this is the moment you've been waiting for for what 15, 10, 80 long years for them two to finally meet person and person.

SPEAKER_12:

Oh, that's crazy that you're saying that because I got something to say as soon as we get uh into the next segment.

SPEAKER_05:

Sharding on the shot and gone. Yeah, so yeah, that was a very epic moment, man. For them to be the last two of their lineage. That was a very uh emotional moment for me. It was one of my favorite artists simply because it went into their relations and the whole Chia family and their tachi story and shit like that.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, I thought it was a pretty good artist. Now, this next one, goddamn, just goddamn boy boy. It's been 16 years since yesterday um at the time of recording. 16 years as of yesterday that we saw OG Jariah fight pain and oh yeah, yeah, potentially yeah, so we get backstory on well, a tiny bit of backstory on Payne, you know, Nagato, uh Yahiko, and Conan, how Jariah saved these orphans from um during the war. Uh, I think it was like the third war. And they felt abandoned by him when he, you know, had to do what he had to do, but he he felt like he was they abandoned him. I mean, he abandoned him and then I can't talk, I'm sorry. They felt that he abandoned them, and ever since then, you know, they did what they had to do to survive, and obviously Yahiko didn't survive, but Nagato and Conan uh persevered as ninjas to, you know, like that's literally the point of ninjas to endure and persevere. And they ended up becoming Akashi members and not just you know, like they practice well, quote unquote, they were running the Akashi, quote unquote, because you know who really run the shit, right? Like, we know, but like we're not gonna get there yet. Anyway, the whole point being is that uh Durai gets some information, decided to go ahead and go to the rain village. We get a little touching moment beforehand where Duray had his little uh heart to heart with Tsunade. Like, oh man, you know, in another life things would have turned out differently. Maybe we would have hooked up and whatnot, but whatever I gotta do, what I gotta do. And he ended up going to the rain village. He Encounters pain and the crazy thing the way they played it out is where you you're thinking, like, okay, here's the guy, but he don't look like the guy that we see. That's the crazy part. Before this shit was even animated, we already had like pictures of him flying around. Same thing with Itachi too, by the way. But we thought there was like an edgy version of Naruto a long time ago, back when I was in like high school. Where we thought there was just like this edgy fan art version of Naruto. Like, what if Naruto joined the Itachi and he looked like that? We thought that was him at first, but nah, that's like an actual dude who happened to be Payne. And uh he didn't look like the dude that um Durant was fighting, didn't look like the pain that we were familiar with up until more and more versions of Payne showed up, and then it became more clear that Payne has like six body, well, technically seven because you know not gonna tell uh himself walk eight or consider the outer gate, the uh eighth one, but uh that whole fight was just crazy. Like, and you know, at the moment Jariah lost that arm, it was GG's GG's like he he did put up a good fight, you know, with the sage form, and it was like kind of funny where he was like running from the pain at this one angle, and it was like kind of comedian that way. Uh I thought it was kind of cute, but for the most part, this section was rough because it was rewatched dog, like for real. 16 years it still hurts though. How you feeling about this, boy boy? Boy boy, you good?

SPEAKER_05:

Oh damn, I thought I was I was muted because I was talking shit. Nah, look, bro, they didn't have to do my boy Jariah like that, man. They had to jump that nigga though. First of all, yeah. That's the only L we known Jariah to take against the six path of pain, and then I mean a path of pain, so whatever. Um yeah, you gotta the fight was OP. I I was watching that shit. I was I was like my letting the blood go out and shit, because I was like just locked in, you know, he's like watching some shit and then he's like, forget what the fuck you got in your hand or doing when the blood was going out and shit, like, but this shit crazy. So I'm thinking he was honestly, you know how when it comes to anime fights, either somebody die or they both live, and then somebody comes interrupted or something. So I'm I'm already trying to like bid on what's happening based off of what was going on. I'm like joy, man. Right, he might he might win. He like he he kind of figuring it out, people, but I didn't think they was gonna kill me. Oh bro, that shit was so heartbreaking. But I honestly cry. If you ain't cry watching that shit, bro, I don't know, I don't know what to tell you, bro. You know, you must not know about it. I definitely felt the type of shit that shit fucked you up so bad. Not perfectly safe, man. They could have killed off anybody else. They could have stunned somebody with them. Somebody could have came. Even the little toads was there, man.

SPEAKER_12:

Bro, like if only you knew that one bird to the paint was like a clone, and then you could have like said on somebody, hey yo, like I underestimated the situation here.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, man, you want to go by stuff that and I guess I guess that was kind of slick, worth it, because it probably would have been more casualties if they went and not know how to fight them, you know what I'm saying? So I guess it was as a ninja, as a senior ninja, that probably was his best idea to go himself with nobody being in the way to gather all the information that he could and still be able to relate it, because he knows he was with the toe stage, so he was if something were to happen, he could still, you know, relate message to the toads, which is what he did.

SPEAKER_12:

So yeah, yeah, and also I I think it didn't help that he was familiar with pain, like you know, he was familiar with Yahiko, like you know, Naga so physically he wasn't there, and Conan. I think, yeah, I think he kind of brushed with on Conan a little bit too. So he was kind of thrown up at the fact that oh, these orphans that I saved from the war, they're like Akashi members, and you know, like it's almost like he what damn, like if it was like anyone else, he probably would have put his whole heart into it. But I think that might have staggered him a little bit because I think he was just surprised that these kids that he saved survived and now they're the enemy. So it honestly be like that sometimes, and like not just uh in Naruto and not just anime, but like in fiction in general, to where if you're like close to somebody, related to somebody, you know, like familiar with somebody, and it's like I was kind of hoping I wouldn't have to fight you, but if I have to, then I gotta do what I gotta do. Like see, if it was like a high-level threat, like say Itachi or Kisame or whatnot, where it's like, okay, obviously they're the bad guys. Uh in their eyes, they're the bad guys. So it's like a kill on site. Like, don't even give them any breathing room. But they had no information on pain. That's the main thing. That's what you said, Playboy. Like, they they had little to no information on this guy. So the fact that Jariah found out, oh, I know this guy, that kind of I think that kind of threw him off to a point where he probably didn't go like full like all gas, no breaks on he didn't do that. Like uh I don't know. Maybe I'm just uh overthinking it, but damn the way Payne did him too with the impalement and whatnot, just yeah, I can't get that shit out of my head, right? Yeah, and and the way he went out though, like yeah, it was like tucking whatnot, and you even get that scene to where you find out that Jariah is actually Naruto's godfather because he's the one that came up with Naruto's namesake to where he was writing his book, and then uh Kushina and Minoto was like, hey, yo, Naruto, that's sound like a good name, that's like a good boy name. Like as she rubbing her belly, you know what? And I was like, Oh, that's beautiful, but damn, like I can't believe we getting that low drop as we watch this dude sink to the um bottom of that fucking water.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, and then you know he trained Minoto too, so he was definitely like a grandfather to him in a way.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, so I'm like, God, man. I'm like, that was like the cloak. Because, okay, once again, I'm trying not to spoil about like uh, you know, the whole Uzumaki clan. But even then, uh, the closest thing to family to Naruto. That's like Harry Potter losing serious black. Literally just like that to her. Like, that was the closest thing to family he had. Like, aside from his um friends, you know, like the Weasleys and whatnot. Like, that was like the closest thing to family he had, and he got fucked up, he got fucked murdered, he was gone. Yeah, like uh it still fucks me up to this. I'm sorry, it just does. But um that's it. R.I.P. Pervisades. But uh you got anything else you want to add on to the tale of Jira Gallon?

SPEAKER_02:

Nah, nothing nothing other than recipe per B Sage, man. That's just what yeah man.

SPEAKER_12:

Now, let's talk about uh what I dare say one of the best fights in this fucking series. So, well I know Boriso is getting kind of crazy. Well, at least in two blue boards at hands, but even then that's not anime yet. But like this is as far as Chapudin, this is like one of the best fights I've seen so far. Sasuke versus Itachi. And you already know that this point, like you said, Playboy, we were waiting for this. All the Sasuke fanboys were waiting for this fight. And you know, Sasuke, he wasn't doing all that talk no juice who Naruto was doing. He was he was ready to go on jump, so like, all right, bro, I found you, let's go ahead and do this. Like, and he really thought he had Itachi a couple of time. I really thought so too. But then again, that was that little anticlimatic, but nah, like Itachi gave him a little run for his money, despite the fact that we know that he's been sick for a while. So this is like his last fight. I'm like, all right, bro, bro, this is it. You went down the path that you went down to get the power that you need to um defeat me. All right, bro, bro. Let's see what you got. Show me what you got. But uh, yeah, I love the choreography of the fight and all that. It was great. Like, just it felt intense, it felt serious, like it felt like the payout that we were looking for. And even up until the end, where like you know, you see Sasuke finally using Keereen because he's trying to uh foreshadow that when he did the whole reunion with Naruto Sakra uh and Yamato and all I'm saying. He tried to do Keereen, but your Rosh Mala, whoa, whoa, hold on, not yet, not yet. I'll pull that back. Like, save that for your number one target. And then he finally used Keirine. And by the way, I saw the manga panel for like before it was animated, and I thought it looked impressive, like years before it was animated. And then when I finally saw it anime, I was like, oh yeah, that looks nice, that's nice, that's nice. Uh but of course, Itachi had an ace up his sleeve, he had the Susano, and he Sasuke thought it was it, but by then, Itachi he was on his last leg, anyways. So even though it wasn't much of a win, uh Itachi just you know eventually just stumbled over to Sasuke, just pulled him on his um forehead. Like it's crazy how you know how the Wichita they extract the Sharigun eyes, and Sasuke thought Itachi was gonna extract his eyes because the thing about the Mongecio Sharing gun, and the more you use it, the more you lose your eyesight. So there was a trick around it that Monterey came uh found out, and essentially you gotta extract the eyes, I think from a brother, because it's not like Mongeo's where oh you got cut ties with his best friend. Like, in order to get the eternal Mongeyo shorting on, it had to be like from a brother. So that's the same story with uh Madera and his brothers, where like that's how he got his eternal Mongeyo. But uh Sasuke thought that's what uh Itachi was gonna do, especially with Itaki saying that in the beginning, but nah, we we all know what was the real deal, but like that's beside the point of gonna save that for later. But Sasuke thought uh he was gonna Itachi's gonna take his eyes, but now he was gonna uh poke him on his forehead and heal it over. And I was like, damn, damn. And what makes it better and worse at the same time is everything afterwards because you know, we always wanted more backstory on Itachi, and of course, in anime fashion, some characters that we like, it's not until after they die we get the backstory, and we get a little bit, but not the full truth yet. That essentially Itachi was put up to doing the whole Uchiyah clan massacre, and then Sasuke was like, Oh, that's also when he finally meets Toby, who by now is now making it clear that uh he's moderatia. Oh, you know, playboy, the funny thing is, I still remember like this this has been going off TikTok and all this other shit to where uh that one moment where Toby was like, oh dang, um I guess it's back to the drawing board. And he's like, kidding, it's exactly as I force me. You know, that um moment where like his voice changed all of a sudden you're like, whoa, hold on, like what the fuck? You know, like and then you find out that uh Toby is actually moderate about quote unquote. Uh Modera, quote unquote. He tells Sasuke what was going on with Itaji, the real truth, uh, half the truth of what happened with the Chiyak plan. And Sasuke got the resolve to be like, okay, here's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna get uh the gang together, we're gonna join the Atosuke, and we're gonna collect all these Gene Triki just like they doing, so that way we can go ahead and uh speed up Moderat's plan and destroy the leaf and all that shit. Because fuck them, but how dare they set up my brother like that? But um, we don't get the full truth until way later, until like the fourth war. Uh yeah, that's that's about it for the tell two brothers. Uh I mean, I I know I'm glossing a whole lot of details, but at this point in this review, I'm just going ahead and get out of the way. I'm just telling you how I'm feeling about all these arcs and whatnot. Like Playboy, how you feeling about Sasha versus Taji? Playboy, yeah, mute it.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah. No, uh, no, I was playing it down now for the game at the same time. Of course.

SPEAKER_12:

I mean, I don't blame you. Like, uh, I'm playing the uh Pain's theme in the background.

SPEAKER_05:

So oh, that shit actually go hard though. Um damn, what you asked me though, my fault.

SPEAKER_12:

I was just asking you how you felt about the arc. Oh yeah, damn.

SPEAKER_05:

I ain't gonna lie to see it. For a good long while I was still confused about who was behind that fucking mask. Because I remember you remember John? I'm John was still in love with this shit at the fucking time. So John was like real hyper. That's the only way I was even keeping up with at the time because Jared and everybody else was around. Y'all was still up, y'all was watching it back then. See, I wasn't I wasn't watching supporting back then at the time, so everything that I knew came from like y'all, what y'all told me, even with the acoscopy. I ain't know where it was when uh John told me and everything. So he was trying to explain the whole sorcery and the mask. I'm like, what the fuck? Yeah, I don't I don't understand. Like, how does how the hell is Toby is moderate and obito and that niggas died a whole hundred years ago? But I had to watch it, and it's still that was the first anime to have like a confusion as far as like the whole um not a confusion, but like character-wise, outside of Hawke female, male thing.

SPEAKER_12:

I think it's more like it was more like one of those things where okay, there's a whole bunch of lore draws, but the dots were connecting until they wanted to connect. Where like I said, you don't get the full truth until like near the end, where like oh shit, everything makes sense now.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, because even white zet, it was you know they had a lot of clones in Naruto, man. Then White Zu came around, cloning motherfuckers. You know what I'm saying? That shit was kind of fucking with me. But see, I when I was like I said, I was watching it on website, so sometimes it would go into fucking fillers, and I had to realize what part was fucking fillers.

SPEAKER_12:

Oh, uh, by the way, before we gloss over it, uh, there were two pillar arts in between, uh, but it's mainly the other two ginchiriki. I think it was like the Six Tales and uh Yeah, there was both for them.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, they were gone for them and shit. Yeah. Some of that was okay to watch for the most part, but it was kind of slow. It was like slow as hell. It was just nice to know, like as far as information, like okay, I never knew that. I mean, get to know them. Yeah, like I never knew who the other gin tricky were and who caught them, and about the other piece of the nine tail energy, you know what I'm saying? Shit like that. Right. I ain't know nothing about that, so that was nice to know. But the pacing of it was just kind of slow. As far as the main story, I see why people probably didn't like the show because they kind of just go out to the side a little bit when they're warning.

unknown:

Right.

SPEAKER_05:

But um, it was a like I said, it was a good art, definitely. In fact, aside from the feeling, that kind of that got me fucked up. We haven't um I guess I was kind of like on the headphones watching that shit, and I just got back into it. So I had to really realize who was under the mask between Toby and the different meaning of the mask too, like the Tin Tail mask, the Karmoy mask, um the the one with the three odd, I can't remember what that one was.

SPEAKER_12:

I think what the I want I think it would best represent the uh Renegard, like you know, because by then he had the Renegade in his charging. Yeah, yeah, that would yeah, that would yeah, that was definitely that was it.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12:

But uh, yeah, like I thought it was a good fight, good moment. Like I definitely like it it had to happen. Like this had to happen, like eventually.

SPEAKER_05:

And the Saskate and the Taji dog, I do want to say, man, that was probably one of my favorite fights overall, simply because I can say we're waiting on that shit, dog. And no, like I say, but it's my fucking shit, bruh. Itaji caught me, and I know for a fact he caught everybody else because he caught Sasuke. The motherfucker, bro, when they was talking and how he shattered the fucking TV, the screen, the graphic shit. Like, we have to watch it, dog. They don't edit this shit enough. Like, when they put that fight in edit, they don't edit the fact how Itachi was fucking with the show, dog. Cause I was like, What? He I had to go back and look at it, but but it was one detail in there where he like kind of broke the fourth wall on some genuine, but before he did all that, he was fucking with Sasuke with different clones, like he was sitting in the chair the whole time, you know what I'm saying? Like, you got stronger Sasuke, and then Sasuke stabbed him in the back, and that wasn't even him either. Like, come on, bro.

SPEAKER_12:

How do you fucking? Bro, it's like he was winking at the audience, like I do it for the whole for the one time.

SPEAKER_05:

Like, he got a bro, come on now. When it comes to aura farming, he's definitely top five, because I don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, like bro, the way oh no, no, no, the way he was fucking posted on that fucking throne before Satake showed up, like bro.

SPEAKER_05:

Like he just got done drinking some wine. He just had his, like, you know what I'm saying, just put his blood out, lay his cross hands on his lap, like like this is a show to him. Like, yeah, my little brother getting off right now. Like, yeah, that's my little brother, like. What he funny, it talks to you funniest, but it's the fact that the con was like he pointed at him, look over there. I was like, What? Like my honest reaction, bro. I was a little bit my listen.

SPEAKER_12:

When you write, you write because like this man can't go nowhere with an oral form, at least a little bit.

SPEAKER_05:

Bro, because you have to think they was going blow for blow. He was going blow for blow with the clone. You thought he really had one. All right, Sasuke really got strong, but anyway, it's that easy, right? It can't be that, it can't be over. But it's the fact that the howaday showed it wasn't over.

SPEAKER_12:

Like, nah, we ain't even getting started. You gotta understand, like, the Uchiha were considered prodigies. Like, damn near all the Uchiha were considered prodigies in their own right. But Itachi was a prodigy amongst prodigies. No, ain't no way it's that easy. No, he was like, nah, I'm just playing with him a little bit. Like, okay, I don't I want like gauge his strength. Like, I want to see his heart really into it. Like, it does he really got what it takes to avenge the Uchi U clan because uh it I know you probably not that deep into One Piece, but like it's like real early One Piece where Zoro fight, uh okay, I can't say real name just yet. At least not until we get to the part on One Piece, but we'll call him Hawkeye for the time being. Uh Hawkeye straight up told Zoro, hey yo, bro, like I got this butter knife right here. If you can't beat me with this butter knife, what the fuck I'm gonna do to pull on my main shit on you. That's the same energy Itaji at. Like, uh uh, like I ain't going, I ain't going full blast on you until I know you earned full effort, you know what I'm saying? So somebody finds Zora with a butter knife against his three swords. Yeah. I'm like, hey, hey bro, like if you can't handle me with this butter knife, like you wasting your time. I'm wasting my time.

SPEAKER_02:

That's different.

SPEAKER_05:

Nah, that's just straight utter disrespect. You might like come on now. A butter knife. You could almost go unarmed at that point. That is crazy. Now my boy Zoro. I see why he's so OP now, because everything I've been saying, my boy is straight.

SPEAKER_12:

How about Hog Guy? And how about Hog Guy with fucking or farming too on that little boat with the throne too? Like, you know, I swear to God, Oda and Kisimoda must have been taking notes from each other. In a way, some things play out like so similar to where I'm like, hey, no, like, look, listen, I stand by what I say when I say two or three coincidences is fine and dandy, but too many coincidences isn't a coincidence. That's how I feel about Dragon Ball Z and Sonic where like something where you seem like, hey bro, like, is this like a wink to Dragon Ball Z? Is this a wink to Sonic? Like, what's going on here? Like, I don't know, like, too many coincidences, it's not a coincidence for me. But uh, that's just how I'm feeling. Like the aura farming, Itati and Hawkeye, like it's crazy how they both did this, and they're both like trying to test the rival that they have. Also, sword play. So, yeah, yeah. But all right, uh, that's enough about the Tale Two brothers. Let's just go ahead and get into the main entree. Let's go ahead and talk about the invasion of Payne. So, Payne, he decided, you know what, fuck it, we ball. Uh Nine Tell, Teen Tariqi, where you at? I'm gonna dust every motherfucker in this village until you show up. And bro, he was going to fuck off against everybody. We, so many people died in that invasion to a point of we thought it we thought it was over for that's how serious this shit got.

SPEAKER_05:

That shit was kind of fucked up. That was nasty. He straight up straight up executed my man, like in the ground, head out, head shot with a fucking nail. He probably found he literally found that shit out of the dirt, dude.

SPEAKER_12:

This world shall know pain and first of all, iconic moment in anime in general, and second of all, like everything that happened, like everybody was getting the business. Like, and while meanwhile, Naruto finding out about Jariah dying, and also he needs to get stronger, so he's learning Sage, like, you know, like this um sage jutsu and whatnot. I forgot that was like uh Japanese term for it, but whatever. Um moving on. He's trying to learn Sage Jusu, you know, in a way Jirah's passion towards like because we see Jirah use sage mode versus pain, so it's only fair that Naruto also learned sage mode. And with Naruto having the non-tales, he had this almost limitless amount of truck. Like, you got like this immense amount, like it's almost incalculable, but uh he's able to use sage mode way better, you know, with his um clones. I like how when he tried to use the Ross and Shurikin game. Oh, by the way, uh now that I mentioned this, uh with the Ross and Shuriken, I gotta do a little retraction based on the last part that we did. Naruto did not kill Kakuzu, it was Kakashi. My bad. Uh, second of all, turns out with Naruto, the only person he actually killed in this whole thing was that one dude, uh, Yura, who you you remember when uh the Kazakage rescue art where they thought they encountered Itachi, but turns out it was just a dude in disguise uh as Itachi. That's the only dude Naruto actually killed, and even then it's like I don't know if it's like a confirmed kill. So it's like Naruto really never killed anybody in this whole fucking thing. Sakura killed a fucking akaski member, but Naruto didn't?

SPEAKER_05:

That's so weird, but uh anyways, he ain't with no killing man, he wanna save the day.

SPEAKER_12:

I know, I know, but like I thought it was kind of crazy. I thought it was like at least one of them. I thought he I don't know, maybe my memory was fucked up because I thought he would kill at least one of them. I thought it was Kakazu, but okay, it was Kakashi that came behind and actually dealed a killing blow. So okay, cool, cool, cool. But then I'm like, he really didn't kill anybody. Okay. The more you know, but uh yeah. I like how Naruto, he you know how with the Resengon at first, he wasn't able to use uh normal Rasengon without using clones, but with the Ross and Surigan, he found a way to where, okay, let me have some clones sit back in Sage World. And you know how they like reverse summoning Ju Suit to where you go into the world that the summons are from, and he pretty much did that with clones where the clones are gonna be like this battery for him to uh collect chakra from, and he's able to use the rosin's shirt again to the point where he can fucking throw the shit now, finally. Uh and the way he pulled up, like after Sakura cried out to him, like Naruto, where you at? And then Pain pretty much dusted the whole village, and you see in this cloud dust, you see all those fucking toes, like even um boss gamma umta, Naruto on top and all that shit. And like, damn, this is so fucking hype. No, that was definitely one of the first interests.

SPEAKER_05:

I had to play that shit back.

SPEAKER_12:

Bro, like it gave me fucking chills, like when you see Goku using Ultra Master Ultra Instinct for the first time. I'm like, oh shit, we about to see some shit. Yeah, and um I'm gonna be straight up with you at that point afterwards. Oh yeah, uh, well, no, no, no. I I'll get into it. I'll get into it. Uh yeah, Naruto was fighting pain and it was um good and all that shit, up until Naruto getting pinned down, literally, you know, by impalement and all that shit. And Hinata, bro, let me say, first of all, let me just say I'm just proud of Hinata, despite what happened. I'm I'm proud of her for what she did. Like she stood on the pain, confessed her love for Naruto. She tried to fight him, but nah, nah, you're not the crazy part when you thought pain killed her, and I'm like, Naruto was ring was crashing out at that point because like not the girl that just admitted her feeling that wait, you know what? I imagine Naruto was feeling like you know how um some dudes they'll have this um female friend, and at one day out of the blue, maybe after like years of fucking with each other, the girl would hit him up saying, like, hey, you know I used to like you, right? And he was like, What you did?

SPEAKER_09:

Like, I can't believe it.

SPEAKER_12:

I feel like that was Naruto in that case. Uh he was like, What, you like me like that? I didn't know you like me like that.

unknown:

What?

SPEAKER_12:

But it felt it looked short-lived when it seemed like Pain like impelled her, and then that's when the point where he went straight into Sixtails, like straight into Six Tales with the bones and whatnot. And there was also the eight tails and whatnot, but like, listen, like what I'm really trying to get at is the animation for that fight at that point. Now keep in mind, the person who animated the whole thing after that is the same dude who animates it like the Jujutsu Kaisen openings. So I want to say the animator himself, he's pretty good. But uh, this shit with Naruto versus Payne. It's kind of funny in a way. You know, you know, the frames and whatnot, like those ugly ass um brains.

SPEAKER_05:

It was real cartoony because fucking I was watching that shit, and the animation wasn't bad. If anything, it was it may be the quality, but the animation was great. The choreography was on point, like pain running across the water and his feet turning into little sonic feet circles and shit. That shit was kind of fucking funny to me. When when Naruto grabbed the wood and started hitting him in the head and knocked him down like a like a hammer and a nail and shit, knocked them straight into the wood. That shit was funny. Then his his whole animation, like every if you look at what he was doing, he was just doing a lot of weird movement.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, that's the main thing. Like, for the most part, I like that it felt different from what we expected from Naruto fight, you know, like leading up to like uh it just felt very different. Almost like watching Luffy Gear 5 versus Kaido to where like it's like a whole different fight compared to what you've seen before. But let's say on the top, it was just that intense.

SPEAKER_05:

Like they were moving kind of fast, like even when they were running side by side, you could tell how fast they were moving. That shit was kind of fun. I fucked with it. Yeah, it was like a fight like that have to be animated like that.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, like I'm gonna say for the most part, it just looked weird in some parts, you know, like basic. Like, if it's almost like if you pause it at the um at the right time, it's like, bro, it looks so bad when you pause at the all right moments. But outside of that, no, like I didn't I didn't hate it. I didn't, it just felt different from what we're used to.

SPEAKER_05:

And it was a lot to take in too, because um when he when he went that full nine tells mode, like we had already seen him go these other modes. So it's like even even if he were to win, would he go back to normal? Or who would who who wouldn't come and turn him back to normal? That was that was on my mind.

SPEAKER_12:

Oh, I'm so glad you said that because that teased me up for what I'm about to say next. He was going eight-tails, like you know, it was like the skin and all that shit at this point. He was really about to go full nine-tails, like he was about to rip the seal off and whatnot. But what happens after that is something that I can't I couldn't believe it happened when I first saw this. He gets like this dream-like meeting with his father, the fourth of he was like, Whoa, hold on, son, like before you do all that, like there's a better way to do this. And then Naruto, as he stood, was feeling all types of ways because he was like, you know, first of all, his father, like, damn, bro, like you you were gone, like I needed you, and all that was and at the same time, he was happy to see he met him for the uh he actually got to meet him, and oh shit, my father was the fourth of God's day, what? And it was just a whole bunch of shit. But like, you know, Mina Told was like, hey, bro, like, yeah, yeah, uh, it's good to see you. I'm I'm glad that you're doing good, like you're growing up and whatnot. But like, let's go ahead and reset you because like you were you you about to do something regrettable, so let's just stop that right here, right there. I thought, bro, like you would thought you would never uh Naruto would never get a chance to see me and so and he eventually sees Kushina later, like in uh in during the war. And um, bro, like when we talk about this fucking war, like goddamn. That's why I gotta wait until December to talk about the war. Because Jesus Christ, there's a lot of shit. Like, I have to spend a whole month just making sure I get ready for what we're gonna talk about. Because we're gonna talk about the whole fucking war in December.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, that was like the fucking right. That shit was like a fucking series of them NBA.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, it's almost like a whole different store at that point. I'm like, God damn, like you could bro, you could have treated a war. You could have you could have treated the war like the way Bleach is treating the Thousand Year Blood War, where it could have been his whole anime series right there, to where, like, all right, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, the whole five Kage Summit uh happened, and then like it was just like this cut off, and then like, okay. The fourth Shinobi War is just this whole different entity because like, goddamn, even how well how many episodes was that? I'll get to it at some point, but like they because keep in mind it's like multiple seasons, it was a multiple season art. That's that's how long it was.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, they were bumping. Everybody was here, and then they had to make a whole plan out. And bro, I watched that shit in detail, and I don't know if they were spillers or not, but uh they had they had um one episode where they really really um did the whole fucking uh how am I trying to explain it? You know how they have like military tactics where they do like the y'all go this way and go that way, and they're having they literally sat there for a whole bunch of like five or ten minutes explaining a plan. So that's what made me think, but this shit is deeper than just fighting, like this shit really looks like a war. Like it made me think about the authors and how much detail they put into it that was relating this shit to real life so much. I'm like, bro, this shit is literally military tactics, like the way they're forming this shit and moving, especially with the allied nations and the way that they're bracing formations, but like I'm like, bro, there's so much good detail into this shit. That's really why I love it. And that's really why I give it number one as far as stories. Yeah, yeah. Actually, no, no, no. Like I no, I give attack on Titan number one as far as stories. Yeah, like Naruto up there.

SPEAKER_12:

I would say with Naruto as a whole, it's definitely up there as far as like not just a five-star anime manga series, but like one of the greats. Like, I want to say definitely top 10. Like it I wanna say, yeah, yeah, no, let's say top 10, because like if I say top five, oh bro, that's gonna be a whole different discussion to where I'm like, I cannot explain how like it's at least top five, like you know, because they like told me different anime to where I'm like, it may not be mainstream, but bro, like you you're underestimating how good it is. Like, to this day, I'm still gonna represent Koteco Hitman reform every chance I get because like bro, that's such an underrated anime manga, but it just didn't get the flowers that it should have gotten. So I'm gonna I'm gonna try to mention that as much as I can. Uh, if I can remember, if I can help it, and pray to God that at least the last two arts of the manga get animated, because that was like the best part about the whole fucking story. Um two arts that should have been animated didn't get animated. Oh, that pissed me off to this thing, but uh, I digress. Uh yeah, like this war, goddamn, like it's gonna be the whole thing of his own. So, like, we gotta have the whole it's gonna be like an all hands on deck as far as everybody in the inner circle. Like, anybody who can say anything about Naruto all the way up to the war and whatnot, like, go ahead, fam, because this is gonna be the one. When we talk about the four war, that's gonna be it. Like, let's go, like everything laid out on the table. Let's talk about that. Oh, hell yeah, hell yeah. Uh uh Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, let's finish uh it may defense. So essentially, Naruto got reset. All right, all right, all right, I'm in my right mind now, so let's go ahead and finish this off. He Eventually finds Nangato's original body had the whole Tottenham Juicy. Noto was like, all right, I'll chill out uh Resurrects the fallen rebuild members, including Kakas. So it was kind of a fake out to where, like I said, like he thought it was it for Kakasi. And I'm like, oh shit. Like even if Naruto wins, this changes shit because Kikashi is gone. But no, no, no, no. He didn't play all of that. In fact, I think it's funny how, like, in case I forget, when we talk about the five target summit arc, I do like how Naruto tried to talk to Hinata acid or compensate where it's like, oh, well, you know, I gotta talk to her because like I can't just ignore her after she said that. So uh yeah, like simply Naruto just taught No Jitsu his way into with Naruto, Nagato, all right, all right, I see it your way. And I think Nagato just passed away because you know, like he was on the machine, like he was looking like fucking brush a gun from Team Titans uh trouble in Tokyo. Like he was just looking emaciated, like, bro, like, do you need a sandwich or something? He was looking rough, but uh yeah, Payne had his ideals, and it's one of those things where I kind of understand where he's coming from, but at the same time, the execution of it all, that's the main thing to where like you can empathize with the motivation, the backstory, the reasoning behind it. But hey, bro, like wrong is wrong no matter how you try to justify it. That's why I'm gonna stand 10 toes against these Jaegerers, talking about, oh, uh, Aaron Jaeger did what he had to do to uh, you know, protect his people. But I'm like, bro, like it was one thing with the Marlins because it was like, it was a war. Oh, okay, okay. It was like a war between the Marlins. All right, I ain't got nothing to say. It's different um during wartime, like it's just different like that. That's why I would say in the world of Naruto, it's different to a sense of it. I feel like unless I'm forgetting something, I'm pretty sure that the only time anyone gives a fuck about you killing anyone is if it's one of their own. So that's why shit like Itachi doing the Chiyam clan massacre is like, yeah, like it's fucked up. And also, I know skipping ahead, but you know, Sasuke, he went to jail because he threatened to destroy the leap. But him killing anyone else outside of the village. All right, whatever. You want to cook? It was like the rules are just different um in this world and especially during wartime. So yeah, like it's gonna get fucking crazy, but uh yeah. Naruto got the uh hero's welcome when he came back and whatnot. Uh everything wrapped up kind of nicely. You know, they had to rebuild, of course, you know, because Payne did a fucking number on the village. But uh yeah, that's pretty much all I have to say. I'm pretty much running steam, running out of steam on this whole arc right now. But like it was like one of those keystone arts where like, if nothing else, like if you don't remember, I mean, aside from the war, I feel like the invasion of pain arc is like the second most important art in this whole run, especially part two. Yeah, yeah, I think I'll stand on that. The invasion of pain art was like the second most important art in the whole part two, but uh, how you feeling about invasion of pain art?

SPEAKER_05:

Shit, like because you gotta think about it, bro.

SPEAKER_04:

That shit leveled the entire village.

SPEAKER_05:

We've never seen a village under that much pressure, like under that much distress. Like, granted, they're Kosky going for the B J.

SPEAKER_12:

One dude, keep in mind, one dude.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, one dude leveled the whole, you know what I'm saying, with one almighty push. Like, we've seen him use almighty push, but he was using it defensively, minorly, never on a massive scale like that. You know what I'm saying? It was almost like he dropped an atomic bomb on the fucking hidden leaf village.

SPEAKER_12:

Might as well say cogno type shit, like I am Yeah, you might as well say you might as well say he dropped the nuke.

SPEAKER_05:

You know what I mean? And and like soccer call for Naruto and Naruto pull up, it was a good fight between the two, and he had a good point. He was like, What's the difference between you going for justice and me getting justice? Like the whole time when the big nations, when y'all, when y'all like born and y'all rage war between two uh, he was basically saying the leaf village, they had other nations rage war, and they was profiting off of it, and they had war on their village lands.

SPEAKER_12:

He was called the hypocrisy, uh the hypocrisy.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? I'm like, you know what? That what happens in real life. We have wars over there in these third world countries, and who are the ones who are who are to have the the effects behind it?

SPEAKER_12:

Hold on, wait, wait, real quick, real quick. Uh, did you watch X-Men 97?

SPEAKER_04:

No, I haven't watched it yet.

SPEAKER_12:

Okay, okay. Doesn't matter. Uh, I'm gonna drop a line for you. Like, okay, Magneto, he's essentially like the de facto, like the uh substitute leader of the X-Men for a little while. And they go to the uh help out on um the island, right? Uh you kind of get a little backstory on that if you played Marlboro. I know you played Marl Roy, but like you get a little big backstory on the help out gal and whatnot. But whole point being is that Magneto was just cool and like he was just enjoying the party and whatnot. And uh one lady rolled up to him and is like, uh, I got a problem with the lead with a terrorist being the leader of the X-Men. And Magneto clapped back saying, and yet all these countries let their leaders become terrorists. And I'm sitting there like, bro. I I I I I sat, I I stood right up, walked away. I I had to walk into the sunset. I'm like, damn, he did not just say that because I'm like, is he spitting though? Is he spitting though?

SPEAKER_16:

Oh they kind of be they they they be kind of they be spitting some facts on our time, and especially some of the villains, they be having a point.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, it's crazy how it's the villain that be on, bro. Listen, I know we're gonna talk about it with my hero academia, but my hero academia is like a prime example of sometimes the villain he's petting uh, especially hero killers thing, where I'm like, hey, is he wrong though? And and listen, even in this series, when we talk about moderate, especially in the war, I'm gonna be like, bro, listen, like you gotta understand, like, yes, he's a bad guy, but hear him out though. Cause I'm saying like the end result, you know what? No, no, I'll save that, I'll save the energy for later. But uh I'm gonna say that's about it for this chunk of the Naruto Speaker stream review. Uh next part will be the five Kage summon or you know, Sasuke. Um oh wait, wait, wait, hold on. I think was this during like before the invasion of pain or was it before invasion of pain when Sasuke he got on a casting drip now and he fought Killer B and he got washed? Was that before the invasion of pain or after?

SPEAKER_16:

Um Pardon me when I say d I'm gonna say before the point.

SPEAKER_05:

If I'm thinking I would say before.

SPEAKER_02:

If I'm thinking I wanna say before because um they didn't capture, they didn't capture the eight of them didn't capture them. Oh my god. I can't remember what happened.

SPEAKER_12:

Either way, either way, I thought it was just funny how uh he tried to um capture the eight tails, but like B, he was not only like holding his own and he ended up beating Sasuke, but dude was fucking rapping while beating his ass. I just wanted to mention that part. I just thought it was funny.

SPEAKER_02:

Sasuke started taking notes while he was writing that shit down, like what?

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, like okay. So it's like um during the tussle between Sasuke and Killer B, he um B forced Sasuke to retreat, although he was defeated twice by Sasuke's a Mantorasu before he had a substitution to escape. So like he was being like B was being a little sneaky, but to be fair, Sasuke was weakened after he was just yeah, he was just still recovering from his battle from Eitas. So yeah, this like right before invasion of pain. Like I'm glad I remember before I close this out. But like, yeah, I just want to talk about that a little bit. I thought it was a little funny, but yeah, like uh I thought it was kind of funny. Good fight, kind of funny.

SPEAKER_16:

Okay.

SPEAKER_12:

But yeah, um, what's that all you got, Cliboy?

SPEAKER_16:

Yeah, this for that boy, yeah.

SPEAKER_12:

Alright, but yeah, like I said, five Card Game Summit Arc is next. Then after that, it's the fourth Shinobi World War. God damn, I can't wait for this December, man. Alright, let's go ahead and uh go into intermission. Alright, continuing the Naruto Shakune stream review with the five Kage Summit art. I'm gonna be honest with you. It was okay. Like things were happening, we're getting closer to the ports, you know, we were at war. But at the same time, it just feels like there was like you know the calm before the storm. Like a few fights, but mostly it's about the five Kage's. Well, first of all, with Tsunade being in a coma, Donzo is the substitute of Kage. I'm not calling him the sixth because like uh she ends up becoming the sixth Hokage, and he never even like Donzo never even gets up on that wall, so I don't consider him a natural.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, Donzo died. Yeah, but no, I mean it's it's kind of the like just look at him as like I guess vice president. Like if something happened to the president, he'd be the next one. Even though he probably wouldn't be the president next year, type shit. Right.

SPEAKER_12:

And honestly, I didn't care for Donzo. I never cared for Don Low. Like if I mentioned it before, you already know that. I just don't like him. But yeah, since we've been getting together, um, discussing what they're gonna do about Sasuke now that he joined the Akaski and helping the Akaski gather the Jin Chiriki so that uh Madara Oguito can move forward with their plan. And I want to say, first of all, the way Sasuke showed up to the five Kage Summit, like he was feeling uh Gara's aura with you know how he was standing upside down uh with the chocolate feet and whatnot. And I'm like, bro, like come on though, like uh he stole that from Gara. Yeah. And you know, for the most part, if he didn't have backup with him, uh he could uh got fucking dusted by the five card games. Not much about the meeting itself that I want to talk about because you know it is what it is. Uh there is one debate that I want to talk about, but I'll save that for later. But uh let's talk about some of the fights. Like there was KW B and the Raikage versus Kisame. Now, I'm gonna be honest with you, I kind of saw the transformation coming because you know Kisame already looked like a shark, so I wouldn't be surprised if he went full shark. And what can I say? It was like it was an okay fight. Like I guess it's great to see uh Killer B, you know, run in phase and whatever. But uh, was there anything about that um fight with Keisama that you want to talk about, Quebo?

SPEAKER_05:

Keysama? Well, like you say with the shark shit, like what was his nickname again? Like the Zero Tail Gentricky or the the Gentricky without a tail beast or something like that. Uh something like that. He got some type of nickname. But I mean, I kind of like like you said, I kind of saw that shit coming. It was it was a long time coming, but I kind of saw the shit coming, especially when you know he wouldn't he would transform into a fucking big ass dog with a R tomorrow. The fight, the fight was decent. I ain't gonna to be honest, it was probably my first fight scene with him. Like actual, like real fight. I mean, but I wouldn't even consider him and got a fight. Like God demolish that for a lot. Yeah.

SPEAKER_12:

I feel like and then there was Donzo for the Sasuke. Now yeah, that's it. What I didn't see coming was Donzo having all those draining eyes and playing the engine. Like he'll collecting them and stuff, and using up the uh Uchiha techniques and whatnot, but not all of them, obviously. But Sasuke handled him for the most part, got to a point where he cut his arm off, uh with kamikaze and blew himself up, but to no avail. And honestly, can't even say I feel bad. I mean, even if he believes that he did um what he had to do for the village, I'm like, I still don't like it. Now I'm gonna be honest with you for the most part. Excuse me, I'm eating a crunch bar with the five cages summon art. I don't have a whole lot to say about it, but um, there were like two moments in particular that I really liked. Well, technically three, but two of them I wanna say is like a two-for-one type thing. Now, before I get to the main one, the secondary one that I liked was Sasuke's confrontation with Takashi. You know how you have that one student that went down the dark path, and you have the regretful student, you know, kind of like some Obi-Wan and Anakin type shit.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, it's crazy. And it's crazy that I'm gonna I'm gonna wait till like after you say what you say, that I just now realized the parallel between that. I'm gonna say that this I hope I'm good. I gotcha.

SPEAKER_12:

But uh the craziest part was how Sasuke was um claiming he was gonna uh kill Kakashi and oh well uh let me show you uh what a real UGI can do with the gun. And I was sitting there like, okay, first second, and third of all, who the fuck you think you're talking to? Like if I was talking, if I was like, you better ask these Shinobi streets about me. They don't call me the copy ninja for nothing. Like, I will be a and um fourthly, I'm I'm like, bro, like you're like a cartoon villain right now. Like I can't even take you seriously. Like, bro, the look on Bro's face when Sasuke told him that he was like deadpan. Like, bro, I was like unfazed, like man, like that'll even sound like a threat. Like, get out of here. I thought it was kind of funny, but uh I think the main thing, and oh my god, now that I think about it, uh this might be the main highlight of this whole art, but uh before I even get to that uh playboard. Uh, you got something you want to add on to the whole Sasuke Kakashi thing?

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, so I do wanna I do want to start with the Sasuke versus Donzo. How Obito pulled up on him. I honestly thought it was gonna be Obito versus Donzo. You know what I'm saying? I thought it was gonna be like the OP fight of like the top elders or some shit like you know what I'm saying. Well not elders, Obito not really as old as Donzo, but he's older than Sasuke, he's like a generational. But um, but obviously, I guess considering the series and at the moment of climax, I guess it would have been too early to see Toby go against somebody that high. And honestly, considering the plot, it was a fight for Sasuke, because it was the answers for him to get. So I honestly felt like if Obito won it, he would have been took care of Donzo. I honestly felt like he left that for Sasuke to, you know, for part of his lore, like for part of his journey that he wanted. To get avenge for his clan, Donzo was the man he needed to crush. So I felt like that was a good fight for him. The whole walk down behind him. The whole fight was good. I ain't gonna lie. I think it was like three, two episodes, maybe a little bit longer than that. It was a good little fight. My boy had the he had the goddamn. I really I finna say aside from Naruto, I'm probably one of Sasuke's best fights because he that was a hard fight because the man had all these lives. Like Sasuke was basically the boss level, like for Donzo, because he just kept coming back, coming back, coming back, coming back. And like Sasuke only got one fucking life, and he still came out on top. But um, the encounter with him and Kakashi kind of reminded me of back like season one when he would when he had on, you know what I'm saying, tied up or whatever, and he was like, I'll kill you and everybody you know. And Kakashi just sitting there looking at him like nigga, they already did.

SPEAKER_12:

I I swear to God, like uh I I swear to God, if Kakashi like had his thumb up and like this guy right here.

SPEAKER_05:

Like, yeah, that's how he looked at it. That's how he was looking at him when he was talking to him then, like, you know what I'm saying? Sasuke telling him like he got this to do, like fuck that I'll kill y'all right now. I'm much stronger, Kakashi. Like the face of like he made he's just looking at him, like from the one with the one I just you done talking to, man. You come home away. Like, that's the right now. Like, come on, all that Uchiha shit. Yeah, yeah. I grew up with your big brother, man. I know it. I'm the I I was with him when he was learning to do the stuff he taught you.

SPEAKER_12:

It's the one time where he didn't even have to uh have like he could have the mask on and all that shit, and you can just tell the look on his face.

SPEAKER_05:

That's what made it funny. Like, you don't even have to draw him in full expression. Just half of it gives a full story, like, yeah, that's it.

SPEAKER_12:

Like this film was like 25 episodes. No wonder why it felt so short.

SPEAKER_05:

Oh, talking about the uh this section right here, yeah. Yeah, it was kind of quick. That's why I say the fight between Sasuke and Donzo was like two or three at most. You know what I'm saying? And even then it was a lot of monologue in that. But um, no, the parallel I was talking about. Yeah. So you know, with Kakashi and Team 7, you got Naruto Sasuke Sakura. But the team that um Kakashi was in, Kakashi, Obito, and Ring, with Minoto being a teacher. Um, I've just now seen this parallel. Even though I've been seeing this parallel before, I've just now saw the exact moment of parallel between what we were just talking about on how Kakashi was, you know what I'm saying, having this talk with one of his students who had a different path, you know, saying for what it was teaching them. This moment happened with Minato during the war, and um, towards the end of it, when he was reanimated and he got close to like face to face with Obito. He was like, Obito, that's you like, you know what I'm saying? Like, what happened? Like, you got what what happened since you was a kid tonight? Like, you know what I'm saying? Like he like when you were reanimated, you don't know everything that's going on. You only come back for a purpose, like you have your memories and everything, but you only come back for a certain task. So he knew what he was there to do, he just ain't know what he was doing it exactly for, like, you know what I'm saying? So he got face to face with Obito and realized, like, damn, this is my student. Like, you the reason we doing all this, and it's and uh, and he got a feel of fight like the the the expression between or the parallel expression between Minaton and Obito, between Kakashi and Sasuke.

SPEAKER_12:

And didn't this happen with fucking the third Hokagi uh reuse and when he was training up Orochi Maro's um Uriah and Shunate.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. See, another one. I even I knew I knew it was another one, I just couldn't think. It was definitely though. Orochimaro was definitely on that shit too. But he had a well, we all had a good little redemption art aside from Obito.

SPEAKER_12:

He had to die, but bruh, Orochimar became up so fucking quick in Moroto. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, yeah, I know, right? Yomato still don't trust him. That's the funny part. You would still catch this man chasing him or like spying on him and shit. The man just living his life, dog. I mean, I I ain't gonna lie, I was still watching too, because once a snake, always a snake. Fuck that.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, like, see, it's like once you cross too many lines, I'm like, bro, like, even if things all good, like, I just can't judge you. Like, I I gotta uh keep my eye on you, bro.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, man. No, you gotta watch him, man. You gotta keep them close. But now that's all I had on that.

SPEAKER_12:

Alright. The main thing from the podcast on the art was that bullshit that Sakura tried to do is uh until Naruto that I love him. Like, first of all, she got the advice from Sai. Fucking Sai of all people. Like, he don't know the world like that. And second of all, like, you don't even have the emotional range to give Sakura advice on that situation. So that was the weird part. And then when she actually did it, like, listen, like a lot of people hated Sakura. Now, me personally, I'm gonna be honest with you. I don't hate Sakura. I do think like she's overshadowed, but I don't like what she did here because it's not just that um, oh, like, let me just tell him I love him so that way uh he don't have to go so far as like save Sasuke. Like, you know, because keep in mind that Naruto made that prompt to Sakura that he'll bring Sasuke back. And Sakura is probably thinking, oh, well, Sasuke too far gone, so you might as well forget about it. Hey, yo, you know, like you have me, so like that distracts you from the fact that you don't need to pursue Sasuke anymore. And we already know that Naruto was going for that. He was like, nah, you know what? Um he's my friend, so we're gonna try to bring him back. And he was standing on business talking about, I don't, I hate people that lie to them, so I ooh, yeah, I fuck with that, I fuck with that. But listen, uh, it was like more layers to it though, to where, first of all, she was trying to convince Naruto that Sasuke was no longer worth it. But her whole plan was to go behind Naruto and everybody else's back and confront Sasuke to see if she could do what uh Naruto probably wouldn't be able to do. And I'm sitting there thinking, wasn't it last art that you were crying out to him to help with the evasion of pain? And now you're thinking that, oh, he's not strong enough to take Sasuke when he summoned like three giant fucking toes, gotta develop a S-class band Ninjutsu, the same dude that can create 2000 Shadow Clones, the same dude with a ginger in his belly.

SPEAKER_05:

You take him out to fight her, man. She that pink hair has just died. She's really a blind, but I mean I love listen, I love soccer and death, man. But some she she has her ways, and and she's just one of them people that you you love, but she just got her ways. You just gotta you gotta really know her the fuck with another. She's not for everybody, she's not everybody coming.

SPEAKER_12:

Right. Like, it's almost like you understand what Kisimolu try to do with her character, whatnot, to try to give her more agency um dealing with Sansuke and whatnot, but I'm kind of convinced he low-key hates soccer. Like, you know, sometimes Mangaka hate their own characters. You know how uh Toriyama always would say that, oh yeah, he hated Vegeta. Like, that's why he wanted them killed up early. But the people loved him, so I'm like, alright, fuck it. We'll keep them in the story. But I don't like shit. But it'd be like that sometimes. But um the crazy part is I heard one time that Keishimoto modeled Sakura to be like the modern girl, and I'm sitting there like that would be some shit that some shit in real life would probably do to you, to where like as soon as you decide to move on, you're you're like, she wasn't really feeling you, so you got curved, so you think, okay, I'm gonna just go move on, do my own thing and whatnot. And then she comes back and talking about, oh well, you know, it's been a while.

SPEAKER_10:

You've been you doing good, you look good, you know, like, yeah, yeah, you know, whatever, you know.

SPEAKER_12:

You know, it's kind of like she kind of worm her way back into your life, and then you gotta set boundaries be like, nah, bitch, you too late, you had your chance. It feels kind of like that. At least that's what I can imagine some people felt when they saw that, but I I saw more lines of she was just trying to uh give Naruto no reason to keep pursuing Sasuke because he's too far gone. He might end up killing Naruto, and she's like underestimating Naruto, despite the fact that she's the one that was calling out for him in the last artist. So I'm like feeling like it just comes out a little inconsistent and also optimistic from her point of view, because especially when she tried to confront Sasuke and he did that whole sneak up behind her part, and she didn't react the same as the last time when he left the village. But like she even had an opening to stab Sasuke with a kunai, and she kind of pros and hesitates, and she thought she was prepared for it, but like, nah, like she still feels something for Sasuke. So it's like on the one hand, I get it, but at the same time, I'm like, that's still kind of a fumble, dog. I'm sorry, I'm sorry. That's that's still fumble. Like you could you could have did something. Like, I mean, you got that gorilla strength on you couldn't like just knock his ass out and drag him back to the village.

SPEAKER_09:

Like, I don't know.

SPEAKER_05:

I'm I'm I'm kind of bullshitting, but she pick and choose, man. She just like to really beat up on Naruto and nobody else. You don't even beat up on nobody else in the show but Naruto.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_12:

But like she just can't get past the fact that, oh well, you know, he is a pretty boy that I caught feelings for, so it's almost like she just can't even imagine herself hurting Sasuke and my C.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, I ain't gonna lie. Think about it though. Think about the whole dynamic that that trio had from when we was kids. How would like literally, how do you think like the the like the audience, not just me and you though, like the whole audience is general, if we saw for the first time Sarko whammed his ass.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

I'm talking, I'm talking about the chu punch. Yeah. Like she used to get that shit would have been crazy. But I ain't gonna lie, if something like that happened back in OG Naruto, it would have been like a gag. It would have been on some shit. Like it wasn't him for real, it was or it wasn't her for real. Because like I remember one time Naruto kind of fucked me up. I don't know about anybody else, but he kind of fucked me up when um when uh it was it was the episode, it was it was right before Sasuke left the village. But um Naruto had uh oh no no no no it wasn't right before then, it was the episode where Naruto was fucking with Sasuke, right? He he broke in this man's house, beat him up, tied him up, oh yeah, and then transformed into remember that shit.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, I think it was like the the third episode, like it was the third episode, yeah. It was like like the third episode of part one. Like, I remember that shit, like, because I remember how like Saskara was like admitting to Sasha that she was like desperate for a kiss and all that shit. And uh like and he was and he was about to kiss her, he was about to kiss her, yeah.

SPEAKER_10:

But uh nature calls, so that's crazy.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, I feel like if they did that shit back then, it probably wouldn't have been actually because like you say, man, Sakura couldn't see herself punching him. I couldn't see herself punching him just because of that dynamic. I believe Sasuke got female plot armor from the beginning of the show, man. He had female plot armor, so for like the exception of Tamari 1010, who was already love struck with other characters, but yeah, that's what was awkward, man. She just she just got her ways like any other female might. I'm glad Naruto left that shit alone though.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, like he he did the healthy thing. I mean, he did have a girl just admit that she also had feelings for him, and she didn't curve him like Sunkur did. So he like he already the way I see he already got some fine shit waiting for him back at the house.

SPEAKER_00:

So I'm like, you know, or whatever, bitch.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, and they just had two different personalities to actually like meet up with each other. Like in the beginning, she was so shy and timid, and he's like the number one knuckle-headed goofy ninja. You see what I'm saying? Like, really couldn't see them two.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, imagine you're back in school and you have that cute, shy girl, and then you have the class clown just doing his thing, and like even though like he can do some dumb ass things, like she's still killing him and whatnot, but she just don't talk to him that much. It's kind of like that energy where I'm like, um, it's kind of like a win for both ends. It's like I'm kind of rude and provoke with them, like it was like as soon as I saw Hinata, I'm like, I kind of hope she gets that dub. I kinda, and she did, and she didn't. Like, she now gets to say that she's married to the seventh Hokage, so like and then meanwhile, Sakura is married to the guy that worked for the seventh Hokage. So, like, how's it feel to be married to the silver medal? But uh Yeah, I feel like Naruto is coming along very well, like he's maturing as he comes along. Where he used to be quite immature, especially when they were like 12, 13 years old. But nowadays it's a point to where like, oh damn, you know, OG Jariah passed away. Uh I finally got to meet my father. Like, a whole lot of shit been happening. It just gave me a whole lot of perspective. Like, I'm moving differently. I'm not as reckless as I used to be. Like, I'm actually like thinking things through and whatnot, like strategizing shit. I'm like, yeah, I like the way Naruto's come along.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, he has some good ass uh he has yeah, he has some pretty decent uh and pretty quick character development too.

SPEAKER_12:

It's almost like you can't really tell, like if you are just more focused on the action, but really like Naruto's almost like a almost a different person to where it's like he still believes in friendship and all the other shit, but it's almost like he's approaching it differently, like especially with now that he's been out in the field long enough to where I'm like, okay, well, I can't just run out there and just pray for something to work. Like, nah, you gotta like think carefully because like you're going up against the constant, you're going up against heavy hitters and shit, you know.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, these folks trying to capture his ass and kill them now. Yeah. Real S-ring mission. Every day is an S-ring mission.

SPEAKER_12:

You know what? I am so glad you you mentioned that because uh that reminds me. It's crazy how between Naruto and Gara, how okay, I forgot. I almost forgot. With the five cognitive summon art, like Sasuke, like Gara saw uh Sasuke. He saw how Sasuke is like so in the dark, like drowning in darkness, like just fueled by hatred and revenge. Gara shed a tear, and I was like, damn, I used to be like that. And oh like that's fucking crazy. Think about it like this. It's crazy how with Naruto and Gara, back when they were considered like pariah in their respective villages for being ginchuriki. If it was like if if the Akasuki was moving differently, saying, like, okay, we're ginchuriki is terminators, where like, hey, we ain't gonna fuck with anyone else, we'll just bring the ginchuriki out and we'll take care of my four. If if Naruto and Gara didn't have the character development that they had, the villages would have sold them out for uh to the Akashi. Um, things were different. But since Naruto and Gara gained the respect and the love of the villages, it's like now that uh the perfect opportunity to get rid of Dentriki come along. Now the village is like, no, no, no, he's one of our own now. So like yeah, yeah, like it was different back then, but now it's like okay, we're cool with them now, so like we can't let you have them. Like crazy how like if the Akaski was moving before um the whole situation with the tune in ZM, like giving up Naruto to the Akashi would have been like not even a second of thought. Like, they were just like, oh, shit, take them. Like, do what's a paper. Same thing with Gara. Well, like I just wanted to mention that because I remember, oh yeah, that's that one uh detail that I liked about the Five Kage summits where Gara sees some perspectives where like, oh damn, I used to be a real monster as a kid. Like I kind of see that in uh Sasuke now. Like he just going down the same dark path I am. Like he just so full of anger and hatred and whatnot, it's like he's barely uh thinking straight. I mean, he almost lost his eyesight trying to flex talking about, oh, I got the Susana, like behold the power of truth, and then went blind like almost immediately. I don't like all that that was like some real mega me type shit to where he was summoning Maharaga just to get bitch slapped against the wall. I mean, what can I say with this art? Like it was short, it had some good moments, like some like that one moment with soccer. I'm like, oh, that was like uh cherry on top. Where I'm like, if you don't remember anything else from this art, you don't remember that part where I'm like, oh, that that's I don't really got a whole lot more say more to say. Like it was a pretty solid season, just you know. This is short and fairly good. Excuse me, sorry. But uh Playboy, you got anything you want to add on before we close it out anymore?

SPEAKER_02:

Oh, not that I could think of.

SPEAKER_04:

It was short, yeah. Like you said, it was a short little part of the season.

SPEAKER_05:

Like most of the action was during the climax. I ain't gonna kind I I was kind of because I was watching on the on a website and I would run into fillers, I was kind of rushing through some of like even the main episodes, I was kind of rushing through them, speeding through them, like watching them. Because usually I watch something in full detail. Like if I miss even a conversation, I'll play it back. But some of these episodes I didn't even do with that, I just kind of like sped once didn't even buy good to go back. But like it's what this part at least, because I was trying to get to like the um the Great Ninja War. I even watched the filler for some of that, so I know I know a good bit of fight that went on in that that was in the filler, but uh like the side fights at least, like the side character fights, like um Darwin Way versus the twins and all that shit. If you want to consider that filler or something like that, but um not much on this specific session, yeah.

SPEAKER_12:

Well, with that being said, the next part will be the final part of the Naruto Shapun extreme review where we're gonna be talking about the entire fourth shinobi world war, and we're gonna try to see we get as many people as possible for this part where we're just gonna close out Naruto Shapun, and after that, we will work on Borta, but I'm just gonna have to figure out exactly how I'm gonna structure the parts and whatnot. So we're gonna go into intermission for now, and when we come back, we're bringing the heat. We are here, we are here, the final part of the Naruto Food Extreme Review before Shinobi World War. And man, let me tell you. I don't know what's crazy if it was the fact that this is like the biggest chunk in the in the entire series, or the fact that all that shit happened in three days. That's like the shortest war I ever heard of. Ain't no way you're telling me, okay. Day one, we finding out that okay, Obito's like fucking weeball, waging war on the entire Shinobi War, trying to execute the Eye of the Moon plan. Uh the five Kaga and uh rest of the Shinobi War alliance is getting together. I don't know. All right, we're gonna have to deal with them. I I know kind of a whole bunch of details, but bear with me. And next thing you know, he obitoes resurrecting a whole bunch of people from the past. Some people you might know, some people you might not know. And eventually Moderator gets re-incar uh resurrected, like not just under Obito's control, but more like nah, he just kind of snapped out of the resurrection juice and just came back to life, like no strings attached now, like old thing. Uh yeah, old ones went down. But uh, how you feeling about this section of Naruto Shaputin? Because some folks say it's like the best part, and some folks are like kind of disappointed somewhere. I'm like, that's crazy. Like then again, you can't please everybody. But how you feeling about it?

SPEAKER_05:

Well, as a fan, as a long time fan, I say in Shaputin, uh, if it comes down to the best art, I'd have to give it the fight between Naruto and Pain because of the conflict of interest there, you know what I'm saying? That was one of like Kishimoto's like toughest. I think he said it was one of his toughest um parts to draw because he was, you know what I'm saying, trying to make it to where both of them was right, which was kind of hard because they were both fighting for different things. But um I put the fourth grade ninja ward right behind that because of the commas and all the shit that built up to it. And like I said, you know, I even watched some of the feeling on the side. So I seen some of the side fights, like with Darbui and the and the two twins and uh the planning and all that shit. So it took me a minute to finally get to it. So when it finally did happen, and moderate, like you said, just reincarnated and snapped out of the control and just became it like that nigga became a problem. Like you know what I'm saying, that nigga became a problem, and and it made all the feeling watching shit so much worth it because I knew there was something coming. Like this man just took on basically the whole world, like the whole Naruto world, bro. Like, I had to Google the shit and um and see what other villages granted. Um they don't go into that much detail, but the world of Naruto is so big, there's villages that they haven't even like introduced too much, but there are other small villages within some of these countries, and man, to think that literally all of these people formed up for one man. Like that shit is crazy in the sub. And then only to end it off, like, oh okay, yeah, he was OP, but he's not even a final boss. Like, like, what? Like, this shit so now that that only that only increases the power scaling.

SPEAKER_02:

What are we dealing with?

SPEAKER_12:

Listen, okay, okay, okay, okay. Because first of all, like, yeah, you're right. There's a whole bunch of fights, like with uh Silver and Gold Brothers, uh Kisame versus Might Guy. Oh, Mike Guy versus Modern. We're gonna we're gonna get there, but ooh, ooh, that's right there. Uh there was like a whole bunch of shit going on. Like Zao Zahaku and the seven ninja swordsmen uh showed up like the old Hokage, including the fourth. Uh we get more like clarity on what happened with the Uchiha clan massacre and Sasuke, dumbass. I say dumbass because like uh the thing is, like Itachi, hey, I'm capable of this. He did what he did. But uh over the course, you know, like people have a different perspective. And it's like with Sasuke, based on his impression of what happened with Itachi, he's thinking that it's best for the league to be destroyed. But when Itachi had that conversation with Naruto, uh, I think that was like before or after. Like, I don't know if it was like when he was like reincarnated or uh it was like that one confrontation right before he died, like before Sasuke versus Itachi. Uh his mind changed, and he told Naruto some shit, and Naruto's looking at like, okay, uh I hear what you're saying, bro, but that's not the case. And like, you know, you need to tell us I'll tweak it in, you know. I did like how Team Seven finally got back together, but bro, like, like you said, how they ended it pissed me off. That's the that's the only thing for me. But let's talk about this moderate, like the fake moderate game. Like, first of all, I like how, yeah, they have the whole alliance getting ready to fight this one man. He's just standing there menacingly, yeah. He had this one ninja that was praying, and I was like, Yeah, that's like the appropriate thing to do with God like bro. He is him, he is him because like this man like started walking slowly, and then they went to a slow run, and they just like straight up bolted, and then everybody was like, Oh god, here he comes, do or die, and then just like just yelling and just running at him, and then he just gave one of the best bigs in anime history. Like, that scene lives in my head rec free to this day. Like, it was so good. I like god damn. Am I rooting for the bad guy? Am I rooting for the bad guy right now?

SPEAKER_05:

No, bro. He was out there hitting, like breaking arms, fucking split kicking people, taking swords, putting fucking paper balls on them, throwing them at each other, like man, listen. He was a real boss battle, bro.

SPEAKER_12:

Bruh, like oh, the meteors. Let's talk about the meteors because like uh the Suchikaga, he he tried his best with that one meteor with the help of Gar, of course, and I love the edits that some people made with that scene, by the way. But point being is that I like how Montere sends this um meteor down, and those ninjas was looking up in the sky, I was like, what the fuck we do against this?

SPEAKER_10:

Like dog, like and then crazy know it's like okay, they stopped the first meteor. They they stopped the first one, and then moderate just was like real cool about it. I was like, okay, cool, cool. I see you.

SPEAKER_12:

Um because keep in mind, he was like way older than the Suchi Kaga. So to him, the Suchi Kaga is like a kid, and I was like, all right, young man, I see you. Uh you kind of nice when you kind of nice, but I don't know. Quick question, quick quick question. What are you gonna do about the second one?

SPEAKER_00:

Yeah, point one. We what you were saying, bro.

SPEAKER_05:

Now I'm just saying, like, what the cause where the fuck do they come from? Like how they use some of the fucking meteors, let alone two. I would have been shitting my pants and left because where's the third one? He could be dropping these bitches like rain at this point. He just calmly doing it. Like, you see what I'm saying? He's just standing there, like, what are you gonna do about the second one? What the second one?

SPEAKER_10:

What the fuck are you pulling them from? It was bigger than the first one. I was like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_05:

Like, dude, what do you want? At this point, what do you want? Just give him what he wants, bro. I swear to like, come on.

SPEAKER_12:

But I just love how the whole encounter was at first Taijutsu, but then Tamari and Naruto was like, nah, fuck all that. And then next thing you know, Monero was like, oh, um, we doing jutsu now? All right, bad. Uh bro, like that fireball, like it was like something else, like it was like a variation of, but it was like this grandiose like fire blast, and then just took multiple ninjas using this water wall just uh keep them down. Like, bro, listen, listen, y'all are having problems. A whole army, like multiple squads, like I dare say it was like thousands of people, and y'all are having problems with one man. That's how fucking legendary you gotta be, where it's like you got thousands of ninjas scared to fight you.

SPEAKER_05:

God damn. He OP, he's the only person who could stand against like the god of shinobi Hashirama Seni.

SPEAKER_12:

Speaking of which, let's talk about that. I like how his whole composure changed the moment he saw Hachiron Paul.

SPEAKER_01:

I was like, Hachirama, is that you, my boy?

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, he loves that, man. That's just crazy. He missed him, he missed him real bad.

SPEAKER_12:

Nah, it was bro, it reminded me of uh Team Fourth or with the Booshores where you know Goku comes back and Vegeta uh was like, hey man, like I I've been going to Krillin's barbecue and shit. Like, and then Goku's like, hey man, look, look, look, fuck all, fuck all the excuses. Do you want to fight or not? And then Vegeta's like, damn, I miss you. It kind of had that same energy to where it's like, you know, they're rivals, but I'm like, damn I ain't fucking with you. You know, I can't wait to talk about my hero when we get around to it because it got that same vibe too between Deku and Bakugo, where it's like, uh, you've seen the well, if you saw the final episode, the final chapter or final ish chapter, where they're all like, uh uh boy. You can't just be some regular ass teacher, like, nah, we need you back in the field, so put the suit on, let's go. I can't have my rival out here just being some normal guy.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, no, it ain't gonna make you look good. Yeah, maybe both y'all look go pink.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah. So I I kind of feel into where I'm like, hey man, like finally, I got a good challenge now. Like, and also, okay, let's talk about my guy now. Like, bro, my guy is the GOAT for what he did with opening all the gates. And you know what? I like how you get that little flashback with his master, and one of the coldest things that still lives in my head rent-free, is that one line with uh the one rule is to protect something so precious to you that you'll give your life for it. And I was like, Oh, oh, I need a drink play. Well, I need a drink. Ooh, damn, that was that gave me chills. When I first watched that shit, I I had to get up, walk, walk it off. Like, I'm in my feeling right now because I'm like, damn, I just imagine like this man is ready to risk it all for his student, his village, everything, just to take down Moder. And Moder was like, hey man, you know what? I bought some sorry ass ninjas in my day, but you, my boy, you gotta be the strongest Tai Jutsu fighter I've ever came across.

SPEAKER_05:

Because when nobody was putting in the work like that, right? Everybody else was just trying to strengthen their ninjutsu or their martial arts. He don't have that. All he has is martial arts, so all he wants to do is punch you as hard as he can.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, like sometimes that's all it takes.

SPEAKER_05:

And when he hit moderate, so listen, when they was hitting modera, he ain't never been hit by nobody who could bench press a thousand pounds or some shit. He like, damn, these other ninjas got weak ass arms. They could just throw something, like what I'm saying, throw them stars and swing ninja tools. People like Gara, bro. Gara probably lightweight as shit. Literally, Shukaku does everything for him. He don't have the little finger. All he hits, all that man holds is a cord on his back. So he might have a strong back, maybe some strong legs, but arms, nah. I bet you I could be Gar in a fucking you caught up on fire force, right?

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. Uh, not really too much detail, but all I'm saying is I just want you to want to make sure that you got uh the picture that I'm about to send you. Uh the captain, the captain of company, you know, the main people that go. The same, the same thing with him, to where it's like, it's it's not that he got any second generation or third generation or fourth generation power ups, but nah. No, he trains every fucking thing.

SPEAKER_05:

That's all he got, and I ain't gonna lie, when he said that, I was like, Yep, it's always gonna be that one character, nigga.

SPEAKER_10:

It's always gonna be that one.

SPEAKER_12:

I ain't doing all that flashy shit. I just got straight hands, and that's all I need.

SPEAKER_05:

That's all I got. Either take it or leave it, and I'm giving it, motherfucker.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah. Hey, you know, like uh, you eat a door. I'm like, hey man, sometimes hands is all you need. Yeah, literally. He the main character off of that shit. Yeah. It mostly be the side character, but he the main character. Yeah, but goddamn, like you know, my guy, he he can't walk no more, but hey, yo, it's kind of like the same thing with my hero, where it's like after all that, you know, like he got crippled, like he can't function the same way like he used to, like with um Bumper Go's arm. I know I'm kind of spawn sorry, but like, hey, you know, whatever. Uh um all I'm saying is like, bro, despite all that, it's like, hey, at least you can go the rest of your life saying, hey, yo, I did that though.

SPEAKER_16:

You gotta say the village.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, like I mean, I mean y'all can say that y'all um ran 1v1 with one of the baddest motherfuckers to ever live.

SPEAKER_05:

Like, how the five now listen, hold on, let's not even over scale that. This man just ran hands with the whole world. From back in his time till now, he just ran hands with five cards. Five dozen ninjas from all over the place. My guy's the strongest.

SPEAKER_12:

And you know what as crazy enough? It just feels like Rock Lee got the Gohan treatment to where they were like hyping up this board to where, like, oh yeah, he's gonna do something very spectacular. But it's like, dang, like, he kind of took the back scene.

SPEAKER_05:

Rockley would have stolen the show if they gave him more screen time and focus. He would have been like Toji or Gohan, like dead ass. He would have stole the show. Yeah, but if that was any good side characters.

SPEAKER_12:

But you know what was crazy? It's like I kind of wish it it makes me wish that in Boroto, like, I don't know what they're gonna do at this point, but like so far with two blue vortex. I heard good things about it. But point being is that at that point, bro, like Broccoli, you gotta get back on the field and do something, bro. I I need you to do something, like, because they don't don't go out, like, not exactly like Gohan, because he Gohan's back on the field, but it like took him a while, and also it's kind of like I can't put it, it's almost like not only did they have to put him back on the field, but they gotta give him the power up just to kind of uh even him out so that way he can keep up with Goku and whatnot. That's not the point. Like, just we just need you back on the field. Like, show us something, like show us that uh you're just not gonna be whole. Gohan did, or like other characters where you seem like they got a whole lot of potential, but they were just set up for nothing. Like that's crazy how the whole fight with Rockley is honestly like the highlight of his whole career. Like uh I won't I want to say Kimi Morrow too, but I mean because technically it was more like Naruto, Gara, and Rock Lee versus Kimoro. So I don't I'm gonna count that. But a 1v1, I would say Gara was like his best fight. And I'm like, uh, I don't like that for Rockley. I need him to be back on the field somehow. So hopefully Boroto gets on that.

SPEAKER_05:

Yo, he did have one other fight in the movie. I seen a clip of it, but I didn't really get to see like the movie itself. It was a good little decent fight, but like I say, Garo was like his most iconic fight. It was one of the best fights in the series. Considering you know how it how it went. Like Garl was damn near. And the thing about those two and the zones, those shits were kind of like counter it, but they set people up to go against people they was countered by. That was a fucking counter part. You got a motherfucker who don't do anything. Versus a motherfucker who have to do everything. You see what I'm saying? Like Gara could just stand there versus Rock Lee, who have to do everything to attack. Now, if he would have fought any other ninja, it probably would have been way more fair. But Gara is like literally the worst person you could vote.

SPEAKER_12:

Damn, you know, that's crazy because honestly, at this point, I would say with my hero academia, if you're a fan of Naruto and what was it? Uh what was something else? Um whatever. I'll probably remember when I get there. Um pretty much if you're a fan of my hero academia, you're probably a fan of Naruto, though. That's just my personal opinion. It might be different. I don't know. Like, disagree with me if you want to. But point being is that I like how you said that because if that was the case, like even though it was like randomized, but that is kind of crazy how, yeah, like they were everybody was up against somebody that was either like a hard counter, or if it's like Hinana versus Neji, it's more like they're you, but with more experience.

SPEAKER_15:

So yeah, the only even fight was Hino and Sakura. Neji and Hinata was close, Hinada just too passive. Neji had something to prove there.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, so that's why he was harder with it with uh gentle fist styles the words like gentle fist, they both are nice with it, but Neji, yeah, like you said, he had that edge on he had that chip on his shoulder, so he was kind of harder with it.

SPEAKER_09:

So you look at the kill the girl, I'm like, damn, you already kill your own cousin like that.

SPEAKER_12:

I was like, hey man, like hey, the Hugo clan, we don't accept weakness. Like they they they trying to um try to take um their own like uh fucking build terms where I'm like, hey man, like we don't believe in weaknesses where like if you get killed by one of wrongs, like that it just means you're weak.

SPEAKER_05:

Uh not the Hugas wasn't really like that, but imagine if it was, but um they probably would have if the Leaf Village wasn't involved, if the Leaf Village was keeping a lot of them clans in check.

SPEAKER_12:

I still think it's funny how it took like well, it didn't really take five, but all those Joni jumped in way to uh stop Nancy. I'm like, oh I'm trying to think. I'm saying like uh okay, two of y'all don't even need to be here, but I get it.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, no, they just made him look like he was overdoing. I get it, he was with my ass, but yeah, nah, y'all ain't gotta bring out the whole fucking enforcer team. He's 13 years old, like just tell him to stop.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, I mean, like with the whole forest to death thing, you're thinking, like, okay, you kind of expect some of the ninjas to bite it in the forest to death. So I'm like, okay, so y'all don't mind it if it was in the forest, but in the tournament art, so now it's no killing. I don't know. Kind of strange, but whatever. Uh I mean, oh here, here's another thing. Crazy enough, uh what I say to this day, uh, the narrative world is crazy for this. Where it seems like if you are from a different village, like say for instance, okay, I'm from the sand village, you're from the leaf village. If you kill me, anybody else from the weak village would look at you like, okay, Ann, you want a cookie? But if you kill one of your own, then we have a problem. I like how in this world, it's like they don't care if you kill people as long as it's not your own. It's like, oh, okay, cool. I want your kill count now. I was like, oh well, you know, it's like 50. I was like, oh damn, that's like rookie numbers. You can get those numbers off. They're gonna kill you like that's nothing. Uh no, no. Oh, let's get back to the war. Oh. The whole thing with Obito. Like, okay. I know I'm I keep making parallels with my hero, but it's still crazy how kind of like with all for one with Shigaraki, Marderer pretty much played Obito from the beginning to where it's like he kind of like 40 chest, kind of made sure that everything played out to where Obito's gonna be the perfect protege slash new vessel, I guess, um, to execute his plan. So that's crazy, and you know, all the backstory and Kakashi versus Obito, especially with that fight in that boy where it seemed like they were just like straight hands, but it was like also young Kakashi, young Obito, and I kind of love that. I kind of like I I still like the one scene to where Obito was like, look, Kitashi, look, there's like oh yeah, when he uh when he had that fucking hole in his chest. Yeah, I'm like, that's how I be feeling sometimes when I'm like, bro, when you just feeling like your most cold blooded, where it just seems like, damn, bro, like why are you so why you be on this? Uh look, man, I got nothing left. Like this world has ripped every shred of humanity and patience out of me to a point to where I just don't give a fuck anymore. So if anybody asks me why I'm on my villain arc, I'm like, look, just look, I just got nothing left. But I I I tried playboy, I honestly gave the world a chance, but I just don't care. That'll be me if that was my villain arc. But um, yeah, I just thought the whole thing was just fucking crazy with everything going on. But um, the main thing that really made me mad was Kaviya. Because the main thing is, at least with Obito, Obito was like a total mystery. Like we kind of knew, but we just needed confirmation based on who's that man behind the mask. Uh Martera, at least he was foreshadowed a couple times to a point to where, okay, we kind of have an idea that he's one of the guys that like mainly started it all. So like he was like foreshadowed a little bit. But Kaguya just came out of fucking nowhere.

SPEAKER_05:

Like, yeah, Kaguya was not even talking to see the thing about moderate though, he was always one of the face statues. Like on like um when Naruto and Sasuke fought, and Sasuke stood on his head, and Naruto stood on his head. So we seen them. We knew they were like ancestors, elders, like former shinobi. We just you know what I'm saying, they're not alive because that was generations ago. For the name to be like used throughout the series, Madorochi, Ashirama, or the great grandfather, or you know what I'm saying, the first Shinobi, all that shit. So they were talking about it history-wise. Kagi, never, no such type of being. The only higher being or anything like that was the non-tailed beast. So that was the thing. They never throughout the show. Maybe I missed it through all the years, they never throughout the show hinted or talked about the source of the non-telled beast.

SPEAKER_12:

No, I see the closest job was the sage of the sixth path, but we even then it was like, okay, so Kaga is the mother of the two twins, but even then we knew about the sage, but even now I'm like, who's this bitch?

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, even they was out of nowhere. And I guess they had to do that shit between Jirah because Jiraya was like some other form. Like when I seen Jariah with the uh toe sage shit. Oh, okay, they got sages and shit. They got no saying different modes or whatever going on. But like, I guess it was all to make the whole reincarnation thing.

SPEAKER_12:

Bro, see, listen, this is why I dare say that technically Modara didn't lose. It's more like he only lost because they just needed an excuse to get him out of the way. But like, I don't know, replacing him with a different bad guy that we never heard of until this war, I'm like, it just feels like a cop-out. Like, it's almost like imagine this one dude gave y'all the page, and then y'all can't even have like a solid way to be him. So it's more like, okay, let's just throw a whole monkey wrench in the whole quad and have white Zetsu uh double cross him and like use his body to uh reawaken Kaguya, his boss, because Zetsu, like the whole time he was like working for Kagya. But once again, where the fuck did that come from? Because the only time we normally see Zetsu is he's out in the distance like watching shit. Like he he he was never really out in the field until this war. So I'm like, where the fuck is all this coming from? And oh bro, uh how how how you feeling about team seven fighting Kage and people are like finally Sakura's doing something and soccer talking about oh I finally called up to you guys, and I'm like that but not I mean I g I I get that.

SPEAKER_05:

See, and thing is yeah, I love I love Sakura, I'll fuck with her, but I don't think she should have said that.

SPEAKER_02:

Yeah, I wish you could see my face right now where I was like you should have said that for a lot of reasons, but I get it. Like she was there now, like she wasn't asking for help this time.

SPEAKER_12:

I get it. I mean what what what can I say? Like I wanna believe that she's not useless. I don't believe she's useless.

SPEAKER_16:

She's a support, she's a healer, man.

SPEAKER_12:

She's just horribly overshadowed by the plot of it all. Like, once again, like I said this multiple times, I'm gonna say it again. Like, at some point, this whole series stopped being about ninjas per se. If anything, it's more like, yeah, like they are ninjas, but let's be real here. Like, you don't see traditional ninjas doing all this shit, so it's more about ninjas with superpowers, basically. And it's it really became a superpower anime, like damn. I wanna say as soon as I'm sorry, but like I wanna say like halfway into part two, at least halfway into part two. At some point, I'm like, yeah, like I don't I don't even think it is about ninjas anymore. And Boroto kind of make a point about it where uh the whole point of Boroto is like, okay, well, if the new generation is to a point where do we even need ninjas anymore? I mean, we have technology, like on some Patrick Star type shit, bashing things with a computer, but no, no, seriously. Yeah, like, but no, no, like at some point, thinking, like, bro, like, soccer's not useless, but like at the same time, like to say that she's on the same level as Naruto and Saskick after they got all those buffs, like Sasuke with the Renegade, Naruto with the Sage of Six Pass charcoal and Kuruma in perfect sync. Oh, now you're caught off. Nah, bitch, you shouldn't have said that. We're gonna clown you now. Okay. Like, nah, that's not what that means.

SPEAKER_15:

I don't think so.

SPEAKER_12:

Best thing, like the flashiest thing she could do is maybe like summon uh the big slug like uh Tsunade did. But even then, I'm sitting there like, bro, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen, listen. Sasuke can do a full Susano. And Naruto wrote on three giant toads. Y'all are not on the same level. I don't know where she came from with that. Oh well, at least I can punch it real hard. I'm like, yeah, but Sasuke and Naruto can practically obliterate and decimate you if they wanted to. Like Sasuke with fucking Kirine, and then Naruto, all you gotta do is throw that Ross and Shuriken, and you're practically diced up like fucking caucus. I'm sorry, boy. Stay in your lane, just stay in your lane. Oh, Taboto. His backstory was tragic. How he had identity crisis since he was like a real, you don't know who the fuck he is. He killed his mom, like it was a whole can of worms, and I think Aurora tomorrow, once again, with my hero, I know, I know, I know, but Aurora Tomorrow to Kabito is like the same with all one and Shigaraki, or you could say Mara and Obisu, where it's all that one motherfucker where it's like he's been playing 40 chess, trying to make sure that this kid plummets to despair to a point where, oh, now that I broke him, he would be the perfect puppet for my master plan. I don't know why it's like that lately, where it's like a whole bunch of I don't know, it works, but it's starting to come to a point where I'm starting to notice it. Where it's like, it's trying to be to a point where it seemed like every generational anime, it's like, yeah, just that one Rochie Marvel type character, where it's like they've been like planning since who knows how long with this whole plot to try to take over the world or destroy the world or wherever the case may be, and they need some sort of puppet that they've been manipulating their whole lives. At some point, I need to invent a drinking game for some of the tropes that kind of piss me off a little bit. Uh yeah, it's like uh uh extreme. I'll be like that one character that thinks that they um better than the protagonist for some reason. Oh no, no, in fact, hold on, hold on. Like uh Kakiguru is like a great example of every time there's this president, like a student council president, whatnot, and there's a secretary that's like madly in love with them, kind of sword him. And then here comes the protagonist coming along, impressing the student president and the secretary or the assistant type person gets jokes out of nowhere.

SPEAKER_11:

And I'm like, bro, like how many times about C this shit?

SPEAKER_12:

Like, like, oh, you know what? Here's one that's really gonna make me mad. The older brother always dying. Like, why is it always a cool older brother that dies?

SPEAKER_16:

Protecting the younger one, yeah.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, like I'm I'm getting so sick of that, especially having the older brother. I'm like, I don't like that. I don't like that.

SPEAKER_16:

But the alchemist didn't do it. They killed, yeah.

SPEAKER_12:

I mean, yeah, to be fair, because he is the protagonist, so I'm like, okay, okay, but damn, like, can you imagine they killed off Alfonso? I'm like, bro, boy, I wouldn't know what to do. Uh um, where were we with this war? Was there anything that we didn't talk about that you want to talk about, Playboy?

SPEAKER_05:

Uh uh, I wanna talk about the uh yeah, yeah, because I was just it's crazy. I was just talking about how my boy don't get talked about him though. The four folk hogging.

SPEAKER_11:

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05:

Naruto's bad, man. We can't skip the fourth grade ninja world without you know what I'm saying, him pulling up on this student opito and fighting, man. You know what I'm saying? Like Opito, like this that's is that you? Like, basically, like you know what I'm saying, like running the fight again because the first time they fought.

SPEAKER_12:

You should have been there for me sensei.

SPEAKER_05:

Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Shit was crazy, like again, like fighting his ass again. And not even knowing it. That's the crazy part, man. Like, history repeats itself all the damn time, but Naruto's dad's definitely a P like all that was that that was a good way to end the story, bro. Bringing all the characters. I know what I'm saying. And one I only part I don't like about it is one of my favorite characters having a diamond. You know what I'm saying? Neji getting hit by the damn spear. And everybody having all these spectacles of how it was bullshit, how he could have survived it, he could have just put him out away. He could have but you know what I'm saying? It was a lot of things that he could have done, would have should have done that, you know what I'm saying? It's easy to say. If we would have out there, you know, Gishima had different plans, whatever the fuck they were, beyond me. Could have killed anybody else, could have done anything else. But Nagy said, can't go back and erase it.

SPEAKER_12:

Can't you? Hey yo, how OP would Boruto and Himamari be if their uncle Nedie was still alive. That's what I'm saying. Like, you know he would have gave them the fucking work.

SPEAKER_05:

He would have made sure they had a toughness on point. I ain't gonna lie, they would have had a stacked ass family, bro.

SPEAKER_12:

Like they kids wouldn't be bothered by shit. Oh yeah, we got those, we got those hands, but our fists aren't that gentleman.

SPEAKER_16:

Fuck no.

SPEAKER_12:

Man, like yeah, I I love the force included. Especially like crazy how we were talking about a tuning exam and the whole fight with the third Hokage breaks up tomorrow, uh tomorrow trying to summon the three previous Hokages, but uh Hiruzen was like, uh, don't bring back uh Minoto, don't bring him back. Like the first and second is bad enough, but the fourth, uh no, no, no, no. I I can't face him after I pretty much had his son go through section eight.

SPEAKER_16:

Yeah, no, I bet not.

SPEAKER_12:

But nah, this time around, like, he was there and it was all cool and whatnot, but like man, is oh yeah, also uh mama, who's in my uh yeah, uh Kushina. She was also showing up, like essentially with the final part of unlocking the seal so that way he can fully master his nine-tails form. Like Naruto had to see his mother in order to do that. And I really love that he find he got to see both the parents, not just the father, because like it would have made sense for him to like at least know that his father was the fourth Hokage, but it was really nice that he got to meet his mother, at least in a way.

SPEAKER_03:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04:

That would have been OP. Yeah. That probably just would have made that shit way more heartfelt than it already was. I ain't gonna lie, that shit was already sad.

SPEAKER_05:

I ain't okay. Spilling out everything to his dad, you know what I'm saying? Like how he was growing up and talking about and everything, you know what I'm saying? That shit was kind of real. Trying to keep him caught up with everything, tell him everything he wanted to tell him. I think he had just turned 17, yeah.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, he was because um keep in mind, he was 16 when he came back. Uh yeah, yeah, when he came back after his train with Jariah, so damn!

SPEAKER_10:

All that shit happened in a year.

SPEAKER_12:

Bro, it's like my hero all over again. We're like, all that shit happened in a year.

SPEAKER_16:

No time to be no kid, man. Not in the shinobi world. Gotta get stronger. Life and death every day.

SPEAKER_06:

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_16:

I'd rather just be a normal citizen, man.

SPEAKER_12:

Uh what else was that? Because uh I know Sasuke and Itachi met up and the other day uh confronted Kaboto and Orochimaro, and crazy how uh Kaboto and uh Orochimaro like had a change of heart in mid-war and you know uh did Kaboto survived because I I feel like he's barely around in Boroto. I know what Rochamaro is, but like I'm thinking like uh did he even survive uh Okay, no, no, he didn't. He didn't okay, cool, cool, cool. He he just got pardoned and he got the redemption just like Rocky Morrow and he just in rehab and all that shit. Okay, cool, cool, cool. That's nice because like even though, yeah, he was one of the bad guys, but to be fair, Kaboto was a puppet to a rocky morrow's game. But the weird part is a royalty morrow gang redemption to a point where, oh well, uh have fun with your uncle Rokimoro, like you know, just he's just uh cool uncle now. And I'm like, really? After all the shit he did with the I'm okay. To be fair, Sasuke tried to destroy the leap, man. It's wild how a bunch of people that actually tried to destroy the leap is actually friends with the seventh Hokage now. I'm like you know the power of talk no jutsu, I guess.

SPEAKER_05:

Man, I was telling somebody who ever watched Naruto about like how that's a very important thing in the show. Talk no jutsu.

SPEAKER_12:

Even then, but bro, it took talk no jutsu for Naruto to convince Obito, like, hey yo, bro, like listen, like you and I aren't that different. I know if things were different for me, I'd probably end up like you, but I'm not you, and you got a chance to be like me if you just you know backstab uh moderate uh squash, all this shit. You know, shit happens and it ain't like oh uh we were plotting against you or anything, you know. It was partially moderate, but you know, shit happens in the ninja world, so we didn't know you survived and all that shit. Like we're we're sorry we weren't there for you, but you know, shit happens. Uh but hey yo, you got a chance to turn this shit around, and then you know, eventually Obuto caved and decided to help and whatnot. So I thought it was kind of nice, like you know, Obito died, but hey yo, at least he went out as a hero at the end.

SPEAKER_05:

Uh what else? Oh, I was gonna say, um, because I had the person I was talking about, they didn't watch Naruto, so I was starting with him. And it brought me back to like we started at the beginning of OG Naruto on his um like it kind of reminded me of his sensey juice or his ham juice. He don't really use it no more. But it's crazy how he brought that shit back at the end of the season to fucking damn near defeat like Kaguya. Oh yeah, remember this juicy? This shit was fucking crazy. Cotter was well he beat over everybody, you know what I'm saying? Connor off garbage and shit. Yeah. I think shit like that is a good like uh illustration on his character, like a good callback. Yeah, but like regardless of how tough shit could be, like, he's still Naruto. He's still the hyperactive knuckleheaded number one ninja, you feel me? Like, that's his shit. That's his move. It always works. If it ain't broke, don't fix it. Work no fucking, worked on the genie, it worked on uh third of cock games. Well, I'm not cocky, you feel me? The shit worked on everybody. Ain't I don't I don't I don't I don't think it had it worked on anybody.

SPEAKER_10:

I mean, yeah, like calling a harmony with this shit.

SPEAKER_12:

Yeah, we I might have to uh go back and check, but like, yeah, like for the most part, that shit never fails. Unless, like, they they might get a little stunned, but like 100% hit rate on that motherfucker. Yeah, because it's so unpredictable, like they just didn't expect it. Like, what the fuck is this? Yeah, like nigga, what man.

SPEAKER_11:

Yeah, because who the hell knows what he likes? Yeah, I ain't no fucking telling.

unknown:

Yeah.

SPEAKER_11:

What else about this part?

SPEAKER_12:

Because I know there's a whole thing with Naruto versus Sasuke at the end, because like despite everything, uh oh, hold on. Like, I like how when Sasuke decided, alright, uh, I decided to help y'all out finally. But uh, before we get started, I just want to let y'all know that I'm thinking about wanting to become Hokage. And the crazy thing is, Naruto looked at it as like, all right, bet, but in a friendly way. But then fucking uh Kiva on the side was like getting mad because Kiva Monkeba said that he wanted to be Hokage, but nobody is taking that seriously. Like, you expect Naruto get a little mad about somebody trying to be Hokage, like he is, but like Naruto Kantodaz, uh you know, like that friendly rivalry type shit. But Kiva, his reaction, like, is what you would expect. But I just thought that was part of a little funny. But uh other than that, there was the whole Naruto Sasuke fight that I wanted to mention. But uh was there anything else that you want to talk about, Playboy? Because I want to make sure that we didn't at least miss any good highlights.

SPEAKER_05:

Because a lot of shit happened in this article that one. Yeah, a lot did happen.

SPEAKER_04:

That's why I at least wanted to know talk about at least bring up Mina toe, because he he was there for sure. Um as highlight go, I'm not sure. It was just a lot of fighting going on, to be honest. Like a lot of fighting and a lot of reunions. Oh, flashbacks.

SPEAKER_12:

There was a lot of flashbacks and like uh kind of like filler art in a way to where it's like kind of like backstory on some characters and whatnot, and just felt like that's what made the whole thing longer um than it is, where it just felt like we just got a whole lot of flashbacks and backstory at the last minute. And I'm like, I kind of get it, but I'm like I just kind of hate it when they just wait until the last minute to finally give you backstory on the character, especially okay. Another trip that I'm gonna do a drinking game on backstory on a character that died the previous episode. Okay, I swear to God, like why why do I care now? They're dead now. Why do I care? Why should I care? Like it would have been one thing it was like right before the fight. I was like, oh no, this character is about to die. It would have been one thing it was like before they die, like right before they die. I would have forgave a little bit of that. You gonna kill the character that I felt nothing for and then give them back to ring? No, I don't care anymore. Moving on. Look what Naruto versus Sasuke. I don't, you know, because considering that they had multiple fights. Let's be real, like they had multiple fights, but this is like the most serious fight they had to where like they were throwing like damn near their whole arsenal, and then you get to see the different versions of them kind of like fight, you know, like kind of playing homage to their rivalry to where it's like whether it's they were kids or when Sasuke had the curse mark and Naruto was just learning by his uh tail beast form and whatnot. And you know, the whole fight uh during the reunion with uh Naruto, Sasuke, and Sask caught up with Nip Sasuke and Song for the first time in like three years. Uh, you know, those callbacks and shit. And then they were like, once again, they were like throwing on like a whole bunch of shit, and then got to a point where they just had to use tight juice and whatnot, and it ended with that same class with between the Rasengon and the Chidoria, but this time it was so powerful that it was like dimension altering, and they just both ended up losing an arm. And they were like, hey, yo, you know, like if we move around, like we just gonna bleed out and die. So you wanna call it a draw? And I'm like, yeah, might as well. And I'm like, so you gonna chill out and come back to village?

SPEAKER_11:

I'm like, well, I got nothing else to do, so shit, might as well.

SPEAKER_12:

And then I like how after all that shit, it's like, okay, so okay, check this out, bro. Like, look, we're cool, right? Like, we're homies and whatnot, but you did try to destroy the leap, and you did join the Akoski and all that shit. So uh you're gonna have to uh serve some time. So he had to serve, he had to go to jail, and then I want to care as soon as he got out of jail and got on parole and whatnot, he was like, All right, I'm out. And so I was like, where are you going? I'm like, you know, I'm gonna do my own thing. Uh I might be back later.

SPEAKER_10:

And like, okay, be back soon.

SPEAKER_12:

I was like, all right, I might be back. And then he shows up and like somewhere along the line. He impregnates suffering, like, oh, I'm out again. Uh where are you going?

SPEAKER_10:

I'm like, yeah, I'm going to get some milk. I need a pack of smokes.

SPEAKER_04:

Yeah, we're gone, forever. And his daughter trying to fight figure out what the fuck is going on.

SPEAKER_12:

Bro, but I'm gonna send um, I'm so glad I saved this um screenshot and whatnot. But bro, I like how there was this one meme where on the top panel is Eno, Sai, and their son, Inojin, and then on the bottom panel, it was just Sakura uh sitting on a bench during the sunset asking, I wonder where he is right now. And the caption said Eno dodged the bully. Because like, well, at least I was here, like at least my husband is here, you know? Where's your husband? Man, and uh, oh yeah, like of course Naruto obviously become the separate Hokage, but before that, we get the last movie where essentially Naruto and Hinata hook up, you know, they like kind of deepen their relationship, especially you know, after the whole confession. So it's like it had to go somewhere, and they just made a whole movie about it. And I think that's funny because that's pretty much the whole point of the OBA that my hero is gonna do in uh May. So where essentially it's just Vidoria and Uraraka deciding to start a relationship, and also the rest of the heroes doing their thing in between eight years and whatnot. So that's pretty much all there is to it. It's like just confirming that Vidoria and Uraraka are dating. And yeah. But uh, yeah, like all things said, I was kind of digging this wall. Like a lot, it was a lot, but I feel like it tied up some loose ends, like maybe not all of them, but I just like how it tried to conclude a lot of plot points that was building up over the years. But um, yeah, that's all I gotta say. Uh, despite the flaws and all, Naruto, Naruto Shibutin, five-star anime, generational series. There's probably gonna be a whole bunch of people talking about Naruto for another 20 to 30 years, I'm betting. But uh, Boy Boy, you got anything else you want to add on before I decide to close this out? Boy, boy, you still there maybe I lost some more. I'm just gonna go ahead and close this out. We're gonna be talking about borisho in the future. Won't be talking about a whole bunch of things in the future. But with that being said, let me just go ahead and say have a good morning, good afternoon, good evening, good night. But ultimately, take it easy, stay dirty. Remember that great things are coming. Dante by yo. Yeah. Oh, there you are.

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