Black Butler: Villainous Nobles, Supernatural Mysteries & Excellent Service

A contract forged in grief. A butler who never misses. And a comeback that turns a stylish mystery into a gothic epic. We take you through Black Butler’s evolution with fresh eyes, from the early setup to Book of Circus, the razor-edged Book of Murder, and the kinetic spectacle of Book of the Atlantic. Along the way, we unpack why Ciel’s resolve still stings, how Sebastian’s charm doubles as a threat, and why the servants’ quiet loyalty is the beating heart of the manor.

Circus is where the series sharpens: missing children, exploited performers, and an order that forces a boy to choose consequence over comfort. The OVA’s murder game tests his standing with the Crown while sneaking Snake into the family. Then Atlantic blows the doors off: Undertaker revealed, Bizarre Dolls defined, and a fight that reframes death as an editable file. It’s not just action; it’s philosophy with a scalpel. We also talk Lizzy’s transformation from ribbons to swordplay, Soma and Agni’s warmth, and Lau and Ran-Mao’s dangerous poise.

Public School plays with British prestige while showing how institutions hide rot, stitching the film’s revelations back into canon so the plot flows. Emerald Witch might be the most elegant con yet: werewolves as cover for chemical warfare, a prodigy caged by a fairy tale, and Ciel’s trauma flaring into a psychological blindfold. Sullivan and Wolfram complicate the ledger with real tenderness, even as Sebastian reminds us a futureless soul is a meal not worth savoring. Finally, we tease the manga’s Blue arcs—identity, twins, revenge—and what that means for the Phantomhive name, Undertaker’s long game, and the next wave of adaptation.

If Black Butler hooked you years ago or you’ve just leapt aboard with the new seasons, this deep dive gives you context, character insight, and a clear path through the canon. Listen, share it with the friend who stan-sebastian, and tell us your most controversial Black Butler take. And if you love these long-form reviews, subscribe, leave a rating, and join us on Patreon to hear them first.

Chapters

• 0:01 Setting The Stage: Why Black Butler
• 1:37 Season One’s Setup And Themes
• 4:12 Ciel And Sebastian: Contract And Character
• 6:40 The Household: Finny, Mey-Rin, Baldroy, Tanaka
• 9:42 Allies And Foils: Soma, Agni, Lau, Ran-Mao
• 12:20 Lizzy’s Duality And Growth
• 15:12 Canon Reset: What Counts And Why
• 17:04 Book Of Circus: Disappearances And Moral Lines
• 21:04 Book Of Murder: A Punishment Party
• 22:40 Book Of The Atlantic: Bizarre Dolls Unleashed
• 27:24 Undertaker Revealed And Raised Stakes
• 31:10 Public School Arc: Secrets At Weston
• 36:40 Emerald Witch Arc: The Werewolf Deception
• 42:20 Sullivan, Wolfram, And Gas Warfare
• 46:20 Manga Tease: The Blue Arcs And Twins
• 51:10 Future Adaptations And Timelines
• 54:41 Final Ratings And Closing Notes

Transcript

SPEAKER_03: 0:01

What up, gang? Let's talk about Black Butler. A classic that is making a comeback in these recent times. Where not gonna lie, Black Butler was one of those anime where back when I was binge watching a whole bunch of anime trying to uh see what all my friends were talking about, and Black Butler, like one of the first early ones for me outside the Toonami era. And I gotta say, I fucking love this anime. And the crazy thing is, back when it was Black Butler and Black Butler 2, uh that was it as far as the anime for like a while. But then out of nowhere, and I remember this, it was like uh somewhere in the 2010s, like it was like the tail end of me binge watching a whole bunch of anime. I think it was like 2017 or 16, somewhere in that area where it just like out of nowhere, Booker Circus getting anime. I'm like, what? Black butt was coming back? Okay, and then I watched Booker Circus, pretty good. And eventually you got Bookie the Atlanta, the public school arc, and now the Emerald Witch arc. And Sebbie, I am so thankful that you are on for this episode. And to be fair, this is the review that we've been kind of alluding to or doing anyway. So I want to say this is more your review than it is ours. So without further ado, let's just go ahead and get into it. Uh, for turnover season one, I want to consider this a more of an introductory slash expository season to where you kind of get to know the characters, getting to know how things are gonna go going forward in the series because a lot of what happens in the later series kind of echoes back to the first season or the uh previous seasons. Like for each season, it always echoes back to the beginning and kind of reminds you of, oh hey, this happened and that happened. I kind of like it where it kind of constantly reminds you. Well, at first I thought it was kind of annoying, but with Black Butler, sometimes it's like a whole bunch of things do be happening, and I appreciate them trying to recap whenever they can. So it's like, okay, so I'm not completely lost in the sauce. But uh Sevi, let's go ahead and talk about the characters. Let's talk for starters. Your name. The fact that you go by Semi Phantom, and now I'm realizing that okay, that's a fusion of Sebastian and the Phantom Hive name. So let's go ahead and talk about those two. Uh CO, I like him. I like him as this villainous noble where he has his resolve, he has his vengeance, uh, his mission of vengeance to going on. Uh, but also there is some things about where he has this resolve, this sense of, I mean, I want to say stoic, and some for most part, he's mostly stoic. But every now and then he has his fits of rage and his sadness, and he has his trauma. He he definitely got his trauma, and that's completely understandable. Where, you know, the estate got burned down, his parents died, he got kidnapped and was being sacrificed in front of a whole bunch of mass aristocrats, and he was crying out for help, and all of a sudden, this demon showed up, making a deal with him, and of course, in exchange for his uh souls, CL is trying to figure out who's responsible for all this happening. So, Sebi, tell me, what are your thoughts on CL Phantom Hive and Sebastian McCaula?

SPEAKER_00: 4:11

Oh my gosh, as you can tell, this is this this is my all-time favorite anime. I I've had Sebi Phantom since like the dawn of time. This has been my name forever, it's my gamer tag, everything. CL Phantom Hive, he is just a little bean. He is he's the kid, he's the adorable, angry little child. Every artwork that I see of him, he is like a Pomeranian. That's the only way I can have him. He is a Pomeranian of just anger and ankle bites.

SPEAKER_03: 4:45

That's crazy because I kind of it the way you made it sound, it kind of really makes me want to review Tour Dor at this point because that's kind of a point of um one of the lead characters, uh the Palm Talk tiger, uh tiger, where she's like small and kind of like anger is almost like a Napoleon um Napoleon syndrome, yeah. Yeah, Napoleon syndrome. But I want to say, at least with CL, well, I'm not trying to say Tiger isn't like nice, but she can be. But like with C L is like, yeah, he can be a little cold and a little angry, but you can tell that he cares to an extent. Like, he does care for his service, he kind of has friends. Like, I mean, that's the crazy thing is watching this whole no, no, no, hold on, hold on. I watched this whole I watched five seasons back to back this whole weekend, and the only time he considered anyone a friend, not even Sebastian, the only time he considered anyone a friend was fucking Sullivan in the last fucking season. I'm like, that's crazy. How like he was like, oh, you're not my friend, we're not friends, and then oh, you save this German girl from um being forced to work on this um toxic gas and oh, you're my friend because oh, I see you're useful, like you have the potential. You're like, okay, I see how you is see you one of those villainous nobles where I'm like, I can't be too mad at you, but nah, CO you you kind of ain't shit sometimes.

SPEAKER_00: 6:31

Yes, but Sebastian, that's my man. Now that's my man. I love everything to do with him. I like the fact that when we first get introduced to these characters, CL was like, Yeah, I'm gonna name you Sebastian. Why are you gonna name me Sebastian? Like it's a strong name. Oh, because it reminds me of my dog.

SPEAKER_03: 6:53

Yeah, and oh uh, I like how this is why I like paying attention to the uh ending crawl during some of these seasons where you find out that also Michaelis means repayment in some sort of language. I forgot which one it was, but uh Michaela's um can be translated into repayment, so it's almost like, okay, it's like a way of saying eventually uh after this contract is over, I'm gonna have to, you know, give you my soul and whatnot. Or you know, that's a sort of thing. Okay, I it almost feels on the nose, but in a clever way.

SPEAKER_00: 7:31

Yeah. Um, and I'm 90% sure the Michaelis part is um Latin.

SPEAKER_03: 7:41

Yeah, it was Latin. Yeah, that's what it was.

SPEAKER_00: 7:46

I've got a lot to speak about. I was I'm really excited to do this this whole thing with you, JP. Like, I am so excited to do this with you. You don't understand. I've been anticipating this. You've seen me anticipate this. I want to go through all the seasons and then I'm gonna go into anime. So, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 8:08

Uh Sebastian, man, listen, like, what can I say? I mean, he said it best he's going to have a little butler. Like, whether it's the usual routine to doing something on the fly, it's like this man almost never fails. Like, there's some exceptions, and there's some times where I'm like, well, damn, I don't even think even Sebastian might have a problem with this. But for the most part, this man, well, excuse me, this demon is fucking deficient in what he does. Like, I can't call him a man because he's not a man, but he is a demon, so like uh, yes, like while he's under this contract, and it's funny how like you're thinking, oh, he's so nice to CL and whatnot, but if you pay attention, like the certain parts, and whether it's in the movie or in certain parts in the anime, like you know, like eventually also if you read the manga, uh, you notice how every now and then you kind of see how he really feels about Seal. Like, oh man, how did I get settled with such a nasty spool bright like him? Like, there's especially like the early days of the contract where Sebastian just saved CL from um that cult, and he like had this inner monologue. I'm like, man, goddamn, like I I just kind of want to go ahead and eat a soul already, but alright, I'm just gonna cultivate him for a little while. You know, like he he he was really trying to feed in his food, so to speak, because like keep in mind that as a demon, uh, he doesn't really have a taste for human food, he only knows uh the taste of human souls, and he doesn't want just any soul and with CL's resolve for vengeance, and at the same time, it's like the way that's what I kind of liked about CL to where it's like he has a sense of vengeance, and whether it's murdering people or whatever underhanded trick that he might have to employ, it's almost like he has some sort of justification for it. And Sebastian's like, Oh yeah, see, I knew there was something about you. Like, see, this is why I fuck with you. It's almost like uh reminds me of uh Raps of Petty doing um Death Note where Rey, that version of Reuve, where it was like, damn, I just fuck with you, though. I knew there was something about you, though. We're gonna review Death Note at some point, but that's back on subject. Uh CEO just have this sense of resolve where it's like, okay, even despite everything, I am who I am, I'm still a phantom up on on this mission. For me, I'm not really, I'm not even really doing it to uh avenge my parents or whatnot. I'm kind of doing this just to clear my name because I just can't let shit like this slide. Like on principle, I just can't let them abduct me and do whatever the hell they want with me and just let that shit slide, you know? And on top of that, him being the queen's guard dog, doing the dirty work for the queen. And I know like I'm kind of going all over the place, but I just love how as the story goes along, you kind of see how Queen Victoria, even though he she's like having Ciel and Sebastian by extension going off on these missions, trying to figure out what's going on with these disturbances, these investigations, like these missing children, and all this other weird shit going on. And meanwhile, it is setting the stage for something darker. And the crazy part is, is like I don't know who the main ops is at this point, where like I want to say it's between it's like a split between The Undertaker and Queen Victoria, like silently. Now, I mean, season one, like well, the anime exclusive parts of season one. Because keep in mind, in actuality, you watch like half of season one, and then you can skip all the way to the true season two. Because the funny thing is, watching this on Crunch Road Through Prime video, it'll show you that okay, there's season one, and there's black butler two, and then by the time you get the book of circus, it's like, okay, they they call it book of circus, but at the same time, I like how they consider it like numbered as season two, and then the public school arc is season three, and then the Era Witch art was season four. Like, well, hold on, there was like five, six oh oh, they even they don't acknowledge as a real season because, like, hey, no, nothing that shit was real anyway. So I know I'm jumping, I'm jumping, but it's just crazy how things are getting set up. But keeping it to season one and mainly the characters. Uh, I know we talked about Sion Sebastian, but I want to talk about the other service too there. Like for starters, Finny, Marin, Baltroy, and Tanaka. And also Snape as of the ending of Book of Circus. But he comes later. But like, I want to stick to the main four for right now. Uh Finney, strong dude, strong little boy that's a gardener. But you know, to be fair, he was being experimented on by a scientist, but eventually shit went south there, and Finney tried to break out, and next thing you know, he was being introduced to Sebastian. At first, in season one, it made it sound like only Sebastian encountered Finneyan, but in season four, the Emerald Witch art, they made it sound like oh, CL was also there to watch Finanion break out. And you I love how the Emerald Witch art gave more, a little bit more to the backstory of Finney, to where gave him the name, the purpose, and whatnot. So it's almost like he uh kind of gave a little bit more of Phineas in this arc, kind of like out of nowhere, but I kind of appreciate it too because out of the main servants, he's the only one where I feel like he kind of needed more backstory. May Ren as a sniper assassin, cool, but okay, that's all there is to it. Boltroy, a former um soldier, that's about it. Like, okay, it's that's cool, but that's fine as it is. Like, you just Sebastian just needed exceptional people to make sure that skill is being um guarded while they do the menial house task. But Binny is the only one where I feel like, yeah, there definitely need to be more backstory because hold on, he was a science experimental, like expand on that.

SPEAKER_00: 15:34

I can promise you, JB, it's coming. I promise you, it's coming. Their backstories are definitely coming because there's a lot more, especially with May Ren and Baldroy. There is a ton of history with some. Okay, okay. I promise we're getting there.

SPEAKER_03: 15:56

Well, hopefully that gets animated in the future because the fact that Emerald Witch came out this year, and then we got the public school arc last year, yeah. I kind of see them working on something like that.

SPEAKER_00: 16:09

And we have three more arcs to get through.

SPEAKER_03: 16:12

Right, right. Yeah, that's like that could be at least three seasons. Maybe I don't know. That depends on how thick these uh arcs are. Like, um, because if it's like really thick, like a whole bunch of volumes thick, then they might do like a 24 or two-core release on one of those arts. Like, I'm just speculating, but that really depends on how big those last three arts are. But yeah, like three arts, like, okay, that's doable. Like, that's you can do at least three seasons with that. Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 16:47

Yeah, we have oh, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03: 16:49

No, I was just gonna say I can kind of see that being dumb by 2030. Like, we might see the end of Black Butler, the anime, by 2030. I'm just speculating, just decimation.

SPEAKER_00: 17:02

So we have the blue cult arc, that's the next one. That is three volumes long. We have blue memory arc, that is also three um volumes, and then we have blue revenge arc, and that's still running as we speak, like that has not stopped.

SPEAKER_03: 17:23

So we have that's the one, that's the one that's gonna be the thicker one. Like, it's gonna be like um attack on time or like other ones where it's like, okay, the final season, let's stretch it out, let's give it like uh final season, part one, part two.

SPEAKER_00: 17:39

I can see where you're coming with that. However, I really think that this blue cult arc is gonna be the longer one, and I'll tell you that. I'll tell you why when we're done talking about the anime, and I'll tell you why. Gotcha. Okay.

SPEAKER_03: 17:51

Uh other okay, Tanaka. Hold on, hold on. I can't I can't go off the word Tanaka. He's nice, he's funny. Like every three, every now and then he'll be like the real Tanaka for three minutes, and he'll drop some knowledge on you. But man, let me tell you, I was happy and surprised at the Emerald Witch arc, and honestly, it's the main thing with him, where it's like he showed up with that fucking katana, and I'm like, bro, I kind of wish Playboy was on this because we were talking on the To Be Hero X review about how sometimes it's the old man with a katana. I'm like, hey man, you see an old man with a katana in the anime, like you better back the fuck up because he might show you something. Like he was badass with it, but uh yeah, I kind of like Tonaki's a simple character where I'm like solid, solid. Like um, I wanna say he no, no, no, you know what? I'm not gonna go that far because like I didn't read the manga yet, so there might be even more backstory on him. Uh who else? Okay, uh, I wanna say between Prince Soma and Agni, and also Lau and Ran Mao. Uh, how you feeling about those characters, Sebbie?

SPEAKER_00: 19:19

Oh my gosh, I love them. I love Soma so much. Prince Soma is the cutest little again, he goes back to being a bean. He is so so perfect. Only thing I'm mad about is when we get when Weston, when the college art came out, I was kind of a little bit frustrated because he got lighter. He was lighter.

SPEAKER_03: 19:40

Yeah. Yeah, that's why I notice how it started with the public school art where uh that's a that's a weird part. Like, okay, let me back up real quick. With season one, up until maybe Book of Circus, it's almost like the characters look a little saturated in color a little bit, but it was like in a like a doll-like low, but it makes sense for like English doll-like shit. And also they kind of have this whole thing with um dolls and season one for sure, and a little bit in season three, uh, you know, the book of circus art, where it's like, okay, it kind of makes sense, where it's like it just gave off that English refinery type vibe. Like, bro, let me tell you, not only the refinery, but black butler is one of those anime where kind of like with Food Wars and Studio Ghibli movies, where goddamn, they make the food look so good. Like, I just want to see if there's like a Black Butler cookbook, and we could probably uh do some nerdy kitchen projects with that. But uh, yeah, I love the food. Well, I like the way the food was presented in this anime. Uh well, so I like the attention to the refinery, the way of the English noble throughout the whole series. And with Prince Homa, yeah. I I kind of noticed how he did seem a little lighter in color in the public school art, but then again, I kind of noticed that okay, they kind of modernized their anime style, but kind of like the old one, a little bit better. Like it kind of felt like it made sense the way it was. Like, it's almost like the way they did it was very intentional to where like you kind of want to almost like uh when we talk about with Vampire Night, where it's like the big bug eyes, and it was almost like it kind of felt like the way they did it was intentional to kind of like gave it that detail that made it make sense for a risk of that to have. Like it had that aristocratic vibe of a button that was kind of yeah, that sparkle. Like it's that was kind of the point. But it's almost like, okay, now that um no, here's the thing. Hold on, hold on, let me check real quick because uh I know I feel like um they trade a hand at some point because uh I know Clover worked on Emerald Witch, but I'm gonna check the other season just to make sure because uh I feel like sometimes when anime um get changed over to different studios, they also change up the art style a little bit. But uh let me check real quick.

SPEAKER_00: 22:33

Uh but yeah, um it was done by Amniplex, Anniplex.

SPEAKER_03: 22:38

Yeah, that's okay. I'm seeing it now. Yeah, it was the first two seasons by Amniplex, but then Clover Wars got the uh by the uh fourth season. So, okay, yeah, that's why. Uh did they see because I know they said for okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yep, yep, yep. Uh Clover Words was behind public school art and every voice. Yeah, that's why. That's what it is. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 23:19

Uh you were saying about Soloma and Solmo and Acne are just perfect, but I gotta I have to talk about Ranmao. Ranmao is one of one of my favorite characters. I think she's like there was there's some there's some things that I want to talk about. She's a bit weird. I'm not gonna say like it's the weirdest thing on earth, but she's she's so pretty, first off. And I love that she's always like she's so loyal to Lau. For a while there, a lot of people speculated that they were related. They're not related, even though Lau refers to her as the sister. They're not related at all. She's just there. She's kind of like his bodyguard.

SPEAKER_03: 24:09

They're related like that. I want that's a weird relationship.

SPEAKER_00: 24:13

Well, when the translation came in from uh Japanese to English, that was like one of the first things everyone was like, oh my gosh, just are they related? Because she keeps saying big brother, and then Lao keeps calling her little sister, you know? But they've known each other since they were children. And she's kind of pampered, she's like the spoiled one. But again, I really 100% believe she's his bodyguard, penful.

SPEAKER_03: 24:40

Yeah, too. Speaking of relations, uh was it wait, hold on, was that all you got on those four?

SPEAKER_00: 24:46

You're good.

SPEAKER_03: 24:47

Okay. Speaking of relations, and I almost forgot her too because like she kind of impressed me in uh recent times. Lizzie. Yes, listen, Lizzie. First of all, I I kind of like thinking like, who on who's her English BA? Because I'm like, that's a I kind of I kind of recognize that voice, but I was thinking like, who is she's voiced by? And that's another thing about this anime to it. Honestly, it's one of those animes where I appreciate watching it dub because you can kind of hear the refinery and their accent that way. Like nothing against uh Japanese um dub and whatnot. It's just I kinda I can't picture myself hearing it in this uh original so I'm sorry, I just can't, but uh hold on, hold on.

SPEAKER_00: 25:40

I need a it's Jeremy Lee. She plays me in Japan stalking.

SPEAKER_03: 25:45

Yeah, okay. That's what it was because like I'm like I just heard that uh that voice before. Like uh I'm like she sounds familiar, she sounds very familiar. But yeah, hold on, hold on. Okay, so with Lizzie, her thing is she's like very, I wanna say, uh, how can I put this? Energetic. She's like very girly in a way. Uh she definitely loves CL, which is funny because uh Elizabeth is Ciel's fiance and cousin, and she also has a brother, Edward, who also goes to uh Weston and he became prefect and whatnot, kinda getting a little involved with what's going on with CL and Sebastian, but not too involved, but like he is almost like he kind of knows, but at the same time, he's also being kept in the dark about some of the uh the details. Uh but listen, like, not gonna lie, normally, like in the past, Elizabeth would have annoyed me a little bit, especially with all that crying she be doing and shit. But you know what? Book the Atlantic. She impressed me with that sort and ship. I was like, oh shit, Liz, I didn't know your game like that. She was like graceful with it too.

SPEAKER_00: 27:15

When I first saw Book of Circus, I immediately had to watch that first. Not Book of Circus, Book of Atlantic. When I saw that, I always thought Elizabeth was that typical, you know, she's that annoying character. Um, that I want to decorate this, I'm gonna cry all the time. And she just really just annoyed the hell out of me. I did not like her at all. Book of Atlantic came out, and I'm like, that's my girl. Fight for your man. That is your man, fight for him. She changed it 100%. And I'm like, yep, I like her 100% now.

SPEAKER_03: 27:49

See, that's why I was saying, um, alluding to this where Book of the Atlantic, that changed the whole game. Because not only did I now have more respect for uh Elizabeth now, and by the way, I'm looking at um Shirami's uh game herself, where I'm like, okay, she was in a bunch of shit, like uh Triple X Holik, okay, Bakana, Witchblade, uh Oran High School Host Club.

SPEAKER_00: 28:16

Oh, oh, yep, she was kidding me.

SPEAKER_03: 28:19

Uh D Gray, man. She was roll-ass. Okay, cool. Okay.

SPEAKER_00: 28:24

Yep.

SPEAKER_03: 28:25

Okay, uh, Kazin knows. I want, please watch Kazan No Signal. Please, I love this anime, and I kind of want to get uh Mira Jane on this too because it's technically a revenge story. Uh she was in Kenichi. Okay, that's good. Ren Nimeson, uh Soul Eater, uh, like you said, Hatalia. Lunar? She was fucking Lunar? Okay, that's why I um recognize her voice. Um Luna from My Bright is the Mermaid. That's why. Uh Securite, uh Sacred Plasma. Okay, she was an open city. Yeah. Okay, enough about that. Uh was there anything, anybody from season one that I want to talk about? Because oh oh, okay, hold on. I like how because they needed to sweep the second half of season one and the entirety of season two under a rug, Pluto, the uh fire-breathing werewolf dog. Thing like I like how he was introduced in the first half, but when they as soon as they started introducing the angels and whatnot, but oh, that was supposed to be anime exclusive as not really canon. It's like you're wondering what happened to Pluto, like where did he go? Like you don't see him at all after Book of Circus, and I was wondering where did he go?

SPEAKER_00: 29:57

Yeah, so. In what's called the revenge arc. They were fighting, and unfortunately, at the end, Sebastian promises Ciel that he would go and gather Pluto's bones. This was in episode twenty-four of season number one. Yes, season number one. Okay. Yes. I mean there's mini arcs in every single season. So this was kind of like in the conspiracy and revenge arc.

SPEAKER_03: 30:38

Gotcha.

SPEAKER_00: 30:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 30:39

See, that's the kind of thing where, like, okay, I kind of figured that uh Black Butler was going down the same road that Blue Exorcist was, where essentially, like, the last chunk of that first season, they just like, okay, let's pretend that didn't happen. And season two is like, okay, we just gonna pretend none of what happened in that previous season uh happened, like you're just gonna stick to the manga. And I was like thinking, well, hold on, like Pluto was introduced early, like like in the first couple of episodes. Like, I I I didn't think they were just gonna scrap them all together. I thought they were just gonna um retcon his death. But like, damn, like they just want to make sure. Nope, none of that angel shit. Don't worry about that. Don't worry about the queen deciding she wanna be eternal and youthful forever, and she was like part of and I feel like you know what? Once again, it reminds me of Blue Essence in the sense where, okay, we're gonna pretend that chunk of season one didn't happen, but it seems like in later seasons, it's kind of seemed like, okay, now I see what why this happened because it kind of feels like this was supposed to, it's something that's supposed to happen way later, but because they weren't sure when the manga was gonna conclude, they were like, okay, let's just go ahead and rush to the ending. Like, we're not really sure if we're gonna have any more anime seasons. I don't know if people want more anime seasons, so I guess we're just gonna have to rush to the uh ending, and even though we have to make some shit up or cut some corners. But yeah, it kind of sounds like maybe now that Black Butler is making a comeback, being more faithful to the manga, they're gonna take the whole Queen being um low-key the ops way later into those last three arts in the manga, to where I'm like, okay, I kind of see why they went in that direction in the first season because they weren't sure if Black Bolo was gonna get any more anime adaptation seasons. But you know what I'm getting at?

SPEAKER_00: 32:53

Yeah, no, I understand now. 100%, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 32:57

Yeah. So that was just what kind of threw me off because uh I guess they just wanted to like wipe the slate clean. Like they just want to uh make sure uh there was no remnants left. Kind of like what happened with uh the thunderbolts. Like uh Valentina was trying to like, okay, well, you know, I need to make sure that my hands are clean, so all the people I hire, I need to like make them kill each other and like incinerate them all. Kind of like uh no, but anyway, no, no, no. Uh yeah, season one just felt like uh introductory season, like just a flesh of what you can expect going forward. But um, was there anything about season one that you want to talk about, Sebbie? No, we can go on to quote unquote season two, yeah, quote unquote season two, where we have yes, yes, just Aloise Trancy and his butler Claude, and there's also Hannah and the Thompson triplets. And honestly, I'm gonna be honest with you, like I didn't hate the season, but fuck Aloe's.

SPEAKER_01: 34:16

Like, I it was okay, okay.

SPEAKER_03: 34:18

Hold on, hold on. First of all, the opening scene, uh, the opening theme song, banger, banger. Oh, yeah, go listen to that whenever you get a chance on to the dear listener. Uh watch that because like it's like the best one so far, ironically, because like it's from the one season that technically isn't canon. Well, I'm gonna say technically, it isn't canon, but I'm like, damn, like for the longest time, you're thinking, like, okay, well, okay, you know, I mean, let me explain the season. All right, so essentially, the whole point is Aloise, we kind of focus on Aloe's for a little bit, where he's similar to CL in some form or fashion, but I want to say the main difference between CL and Aloise is that Aloise didn't have something to drive him forward, it's more like now that Aloise has no status, it's like he just wanna keep his status and he just wants people to love him and never leave him and all the other shit. Kind of similar to CL in a way, you know, because like even though CO is I want to say more independent, where he's out damn, it's kind of tricky to say, but I want to say CO has more composure in a sense where Alwe just comes off more like a spoiled brat. Like, and then Claude, like, okay, for starters, I think the writers was fucking cooking when they came up with that shit talking about oh, I turned day into night, uh, sugar into salt, creatures into corpses, and I'm like, damn, like, was the pen on fire when you wrote that shit down? Oh, but um, yes, alloise, he pretty much was one of those kids where at first he was like a poor kid with his brother. Um, he started up as Jim Monkin, and he has uh little brother, uh Luca, I believe it was. And they were trying to survive and whatnot, but eventually Luca he died, and Aloise was sad, and eventually he got picked up and decided okay, uh, some nobleman's gonna have his fun with the little boys, and eventually uh Aloise was able to find a way to inherit the uh old man's fortune and whatnot, you know, trying to play his position until he got his opportunity to inherit the trance name and whatnot, like even going by Aloise Trancy kind of come off as more of a nobleman and trying to put on this whole facade of being a nobleman, uh, you know, uh what else about it? Um Claude, of course, demon butler, and it was kind of surprising that Hannah was also a demon, even though, like, see, here's another thing. Here's why I say fuck out least because not even like okay. As soon as we get introduced to Hannah, he's like, Okay, I'm gonna fuck with her a little bit, and he is uh he purposely had wands build on himself. Uh oh, god damn it, Hannah, you incompetent bitch. Come here, I need to make an example out of you. And it started, you know, digging to her eyes to the point where she just lost eyes for nothing. I'm like, yeah, you know, um, you're my servant, I'll do whatever I want with you, and you know, that type of shit. Uh kind of treating all his servants um that way. Like, he just being a little prick for no reason. Like, even when like Claude was trying to dress him and like button up his shirt, and then I would just kind of unbutton up purposes, like, oh, did I make you mad or something? Like, no, sir, you you're fine. Like, you know, Claude gets kind of annoyed by it, but like that's kind of funny. Things where at least with uh CO and Sebastian, it's like, how can I put this? Like, it's their relationship is kind of similar, but at the very least, it's like I don't know, it's almost like they're kind of friends, but they're not. It's like there's like some charm to it to where I'm like, I kind of like their relationship, not gonna lie. Especially, I know once again I'm jumping, but when we get to the Emerald Witch part where uh CL needs to regain his composure, and Sebastian's like, I'm fine, glad that you finally came to your senses, and it's like, oh shut up, you um you must have been having quite a laugh when I was not being myself, like, oh not at all, sir. Like, whatever. You know, it's that kind of cheeky shit where it's like, you know, y'all like each other, but y'all don't want to make it. But um, turns out Hannah was like low key um plotting, trying to make sure that Alois get what he wants by taking over CL's body. Because the funny thing is, like, Claude also wanted CL's soul because Sebastian and Claude were just both enamored by CL's resolve for vengeance and whatnot. And Aloise naturally got jealous to a point where why does everybody want CL so bad? Why does everybody like CL more than me? And I'm saying, like, uh, for starters, a little bit, for starters, you can start by treating your service better. How about that? Because, like, you're wondering why they like CL more. Well, CL treats them better. Simple as that. I mean, yeah, he can be kind of cold, but he treats them better than you do. So why are you surprised? But uh, you know, like all that bullshit going on, Alloys ends up dying, Claude ends up dying, Hannah ends up dying, the Thompson triplets end up dying, whatnot, blah blah blah. But what really tripped me out was the fact that Hannah's agreement with CL, and keep in mind once again, this is non-canon. CL, if it just so happens that um Alise decided to give CL's soul back and all that convoluted jazz, somehow CL ended up becoming a demon, and uh unfortunately that leaves Sebastian in a pickle to where he is contracted to serve CL up until he gets his vengeance and he gets to eat his soul, but as a demon, there is no soul left, so CL stuck, I mean not CL, excuse me, uh Sebastian stuck serving him forever and ever. And uh that kind of made me glad that season was not canon. But uh, Steve, how did you feel about quote unquote season two?

SPEAKER_00: 41:51

So this is where I got my debut in the cosplay voice acting world was playing as Aloise Transius. That's why this child has such an impactful has has been an impact on my life. I did a ton of stuff with Alois, but because this isn't canon, this kid, they're supposed to be the opposite of Ciela Sebastian, like 100%.

SPEAKER_03: 42:18

Yeah, that's the thing. It's like they're supposed to be set up to be opposite, but when I'm real like keep in mind, like in the in the beginning, like um when I watched the first time, I was thinking like they're like total opposites. But second time around, uh hold on, hold on, wait a minute. They're more similar than you think. When you really uh pay attention to CL from his uh fits of rage to his trauma and whatnot, I'm like, uh, they're more similar than you think, but it's like the contrast with like the differences, the little differences that you do notice, yeah, that's what sets them apart, but they're more similar than you think.

SPEAKER_00: 42:54

Right. And this is where okay. So with the transi household and season two, it's kind of supposed to be set up as there's a there's like five OVAs that came after season two. Like you have like some random stuff like Seattle in Wonderland, they have like an episode that's resembling like a role-play game, but the fourth OVA is called making a could have hit zoo season creating a black butler too. This episode is kind of filled like meta-style, where the characters are acting like real actors. So they give kind of like a behind-the-scene debut of Black Butler 2, which is globally famous, and the it's just a whole never-before-seen footage in the trailer for Black Butler's sequel. So everyone's like, Oh, Black Butler 2, this is just a move, a show in the show.

SPEAKER_03: 43:54

Yeah, they because I'm like, come on, though. Like, okay, by releasing those OVAs and whatnot, it kind of makes it like leaves it more open-ended to where okay, uh, maybe that's not the note we want to end the anime off on. So let's make these OVAs where okay, ha ha ha. I'm like, surprise, surprise. It was like a movie the whole time. So you may never know what might happen. Like, we might bring the move uh anime back along with Book of Circus and whatnot. So, you know, you know, if we get the green light for you, and then we get the fun and whatnot, we can do that.

SPEAKER_00: 44:29

That that was pretty much it because the very last, before we went into the book of circus in its OVA, we got the final last OVA, and that was the spider's intention. And this was the very last episode, and it's basically Aloise Trancey frees a butterfly from a spider web and it breaks off its wings so it can't escape. He orders Claude to fill the bedroom with flowers so he can keep the butterfly in. Um he shows all the truth like the servants, and then in the end, the butterfly dies, Aloise cremates it, and ends up setting his room alive. He basically his room down. Like, and that's basically Aloise dreams of him being trapped in a spiderweb and basically telling him that telling Claude that he's basically the butterfly in this situation. One this season is completely fucked up. Like, not in the whole sense of it's bad, no, the story is fucked up. This is where it gets kind of funny, and this is where I agree with you. They are alike in every single way, and I'm gonna tell you that when we get to the anime, because those the manga be just because this is an anime part doesn't mean there's a lot of similarities, and I'll tell you that afterwards. There's a lot, but yeah, that's it for season two for me.

SPEAKER_03: 45:51

Yeah, it's well, quote unquote season two. Let's talk about the real one now.

SPEAKER_01: 45:56

Let's go.

SPEAKER_03: 45:58

Book of Circus. Let me tell you, I was liking the direction that is going this forward, where it's like it felt more like they were focusing more on one big mystery versus a bunch of smaller mysteries. Like it was like a subplot, but somehow they always tied the main plot of CL's revenge on whoever, like abducted him and whatnot. They always tie that into the subplot of what's going on, where it's like, okay, now they're investigating this circus where there's a bunch of children that's going missing, and CL as a Queen's Guard dog needs to figure out what the hell's going on. Come to find out that let's just say there was uh this, I won't say he's a nobleman, like he's just like a fanboy for noblemen. Uh Lord Kelvin. Okay, he kind of liked nobility, but like, I don't know. He just didn't come up with that. Yeah. Like, because here's here's his thing. Like, he was like a fanboy of Vincent Phantom Hive and whatnot. He wanted um be in that higher circle like them. But then he looked at his reflection uh after going to that meeting and he realized, oh my god, I didn't even realize how chopped I was. Like, I don't like this. Yeah, I'm gonna go ahead and get like experimental surgery so I could be more like them. I don't care if my wife leaves me and whatnot, I don't care about that bitch no more. And then I even the daughter that butchered his um boss's whole operations uh was in the um fucking corner, like just taking his head like this man's losing as fuck. Like, Jesus, like I I don't know what I can do. But uh the whole point being is that uh there was also this doctor, like I forgot his name already, but uh whole point being is that they were making prosthetics out of the bones of the children that they were abducting, whatnot, except for a few exceptions, and those few exceptions have to be the main antagonistic force. Well, quote unquote antagonists, they're not really antagonists, it's more like they were more like the people that CLM Sebastian just had to fight. Uh the main performers of Noah's art. You have Joker, you have Dahl, you have uh Beast and Dagger. Uh there's Snake, but keep in mind that Snake is the only survivor, and that's the crazy thing. I think the OBA might explain it because uh honestly, I kind of gloss over the OVA, it's not gonna lie. But uh at the end of Book of Circus, like at the only survivor, you're thinking, like, okay, what is he gonna do? And then you come to find out in Booker Atlanta, oh, he joined the phantom household. So I'm guessing the OVA at the end of Book of Circus explains that. Okay, cool, cool, cool. Uh who else? Oh, yeah. Um, okay, that's the gist of the main casting. And essentially, while CL and Sebastian was going undercover trying to figure out uh what the hell's going on with this circus, what this guy did with the uh invest um the disappearances and whatnot, William T. Spears also go undercover to figure out what the hell's going on. And I just like how um with the pairing off where CL got paired off with uh who we now know is Dahl because you know, like two, like Dahl was trying to be like two different people, um, had that sort of thing going on, you know, almost like uh lolan from apothecary diaries where it's like uh you have like your normal look, and then on the other side, you're kind of like one of the main people, uh, but it's almost like you have like two different personalities or whatever. I don't know, it's strange, but not to spend too much time on that. Essentially, they were trying to figure out what's going on, and turns out that Joker and the main people, oh jumbo. I forgot jumbo, that's the one person I was reading out. Like there was like one more person, I forget it. Uh Jumbo, that was the uh the strong man, anyways. Um turns out that these main performers was going around abducting um these children at the same time the pleas just happening on come by. Uh, they use these like some sort of uh gas, like uh it's in a way to where the children kind of uh start hallucinating this wonder, it's like this childish kind of illusion where it seems like oh, um some polar bear in a police hat is coming to um um whistling his bell and uh you know, whistling. Yeah, I'm sorry, I'm kinda no, you're good. Well, whole point being is like they try to make it play it off like oh uh it's just part of an act and whatnot. But turns out that um Jumbo and them is like straight up murdering cops right in front of those children's face, but uh the children's thinking, like, oh, this is part of a show or whatnot. It seems kind of fun and whatnot. And then they just go off with uh performers, it just end up being sacrificed. But the crazy thing is, Joker and the gang didn't know that percent is made from the um children's bones. That's why Joker was like saying, Oh, well, if we didn't know, like, oh well, that's why we didn't tell you, because we knew you were gonna act like this. See, that's the problem with people like they just they care more about the process than the fucking results. So that's why I like fucking with Lord Kelvin because he didn't give a fuck about the process, he cared more about the results. That's why I fucked with him. Like it was kind of fucked up, like it was really fucked up.

SPEAKER_00: 52:15

That ninth episode got me like horrifying when they go to Kelvin's estate and all these kids are just doing tricks and they just fall to the ground and dead. We're like, oh my god, and he's over there clapping, like, yeah, yeah, yeah, everything is wonderful. I'm watching these kids die. It's amazing. Your turn, CL.

SPEAKER_03: 52:39

Yeah, and it made it even worse when he made he set up his estate to where, oh, let's recreate what happened three years ago. Like, oh, wait, hold on. Like, this is looking awfully familiar. Like, oh like war on, were you one of those people watching me getting stabbed? Good lord, like you can tell he was that much of a fanboy where he wanted to recreate the one thing that traumatized the boy, and he was like, No, no, Sebastian, kill both of these motherfuckers, no, kill all of them, and meanwhile, while Sebastian killed Kelvin, uh Joker, uh, the doctor, and Sia ordered Sebastian to burn down this day, including the children that were still in there. Meanwhile, back at the Fem uh household, uh, Marin, Baldro, uh, and Finny was handling the other performers. Yeah, being badasses. And by the way, if I knew Lizzie was fucking nice with uh a sword, like she could have kind of helped. Like, because think about it, she only didn't want to fight because she didn't want CL to not notice how quote unquote uncute she was. But I'm like, she was he wasn't even there, so I'm like, hey, if he ain't there, like he doesn't have to know that you were good with something. So like you could have gotten about a bitch, but no, Tanaka was like, no, no, no, no, just stay right there. We got it, we got it. But yeah, like what most part I would say book of circus was like, okay, they were like raising stakes a little bit, where you kind of see more like what Finney and Baltrow and Marin and the rest of them can't be capable of doing. And yeah, that was not it. Like, you know, it's just kind of crazy how like once again, you're thinking that they're just investigating the circuits, trying to figure out what's going on with these disappearances. You find out why, but also it's somehow related to what happened to CL. But uh, was there anything else about book filters that you want to talk about, Sebbie?

SPEAKER_00: 54:57

No, because that's where we get the book of murder. Right.

SPEAKER_03: 55:00

Um, book of murder, not gonna lie, I'm kind of fuzzy on, so you can take the floor on that one.

SPEAKER_00: 55:06

The book of murder happens kind of at the end, like 10, the episode 10 and the first episode of the OVA Book of Murder overlapping one another. Um, the Queen decides to test the loyalty, believing that you know, CL didn't turn it on his paperwork, you know, at the end of the night about the nose arc circus. So murder mystery party happens where everyone's right.

SPEAKER_03: 55:31

It was the Wodun It.

SPEAKER_00: 55:32

Who done it party? Exactly. Everyone's like, oh, who killed um Simons? And everyone has an alibi except C L. And then everybody's starting to like it's a murder mystery party, basically, and at the end of the night, that's where C L invites Snake to come and live because he won his trust. Um we kind of see the ending of oh my goodness. The we kind of see Snake take over what was Pluto's position.

SPEAKER_01: 56:09

Right.

SPEAKER_00: 56:12

Um, but that's pretty much it. It's just murder and mystery in two episodes.

SPEAKER_03: 56:16

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, like, okay, like I was thinking like I thought they were gonna make book a murder like a little longer, but I guess two episodes is one.

SPEAKER_00: 56:24

No, because that's supposed to be like the punishment. This is this is your punishment for leaving stuff out, CL.

SPEAKER_03: 56:31

So you're punishing me by making me go into a party.

SPEAKER_00: 56:37

Throwing a party at my own house and Simon's decide fakes fakes the death. Like it was it was literally just a party to punish CL.

SPEAKER_03: 56:49

Wait, that's like getting suspended with pay. I'm like, okay. That's that I mean it's that's my point.

SPEAKER_00: 57:00

Pretty much.

SPEAKER_03: 57:01

It doesn't feel like a punishment.

SPEAKER_00: 57:05

No, because CL's all freaking out, like, what do you mean? Just and at the end of the day, it inf this whole thing in influences Arthur, Conan, Doyle to write the Sherlock Holmes.

unknown: 57:18

Wow.

SPEAKER_00: 57:19

Look. That's literally what this entire thing. Murder mystery, Sherlock Holmes, punishment, CL, we're done. That was it.

SPEAKER_03: 57:27

Wow. Okay. Okay. Oh, well, if that's it, then alright, that's it then.

SPEAKER_00: 57:34

That's it. We can go on. We're going down to the film.

SPEAKER_03: 57:39

Yes, that is next. Yes, looking the Atlantic. Oh, let me tell you. Like I said before, it changes things because not only do we see Lizzie being fucking nice with the swords, but we come to find out that, okay, they're going on this um cruise to the camping honor. Um, sorry if I bust the name. Um, which by the way, um, by the third act, I feel like there was a Titanic reference there. And it's crazy because I really want to review Titanic because there's a lot of shit that I want to say about that movie. Not just because of the obvious, but everything leading up to it. But that's besides that's for another day. Uh Booky the Atlantic. Essentially, they go on this boat trying to investigate the aurora society where it's known that, oh, they're trying to um make this medicine or whatnot that can revolutionize things, where like, oh, they can bring back the dead. Like, they try to bring back this one girl who died, uh, and their parents was nearby, um, even like this funeral or whatnot, but like, okay, let's hook up this machine and we're gonna try to um revive her and whatnot. It seemed to work up until she, the um girl that died, started biting her mom. So uh, congratulations, you created zombies or bizarre dolls, as they call them.

SPEAKER_00: 59:05

I was gonna say they're called bizarre dolls, and that's where it kind of leads into something really cool in the and in the manga, like continue.

SPEAKER_03: 59:13

Yes. Uh, and okay, it essentially CL and Sebastian and well, not the main cat, I think. Uh Snake was on board, and also Lizzie was on board, but the rest of them was like off board, like they weren't really participant. Like, that's another thing. Even if they don't really do anything, I kind of like how uh Finny, May Ren, and Valtro and Tanaka, like one way or another, they're gonna get included in something. Like they're gonna be like somewhere in there. Like it's it's kind of like Team Rocket for me to where I'm like, it just doesn't from uh Pokemon uh where it just feels like it just doesn't seem right when it seemed like they it's been a while since we've seen. These characters, you know. Uh but yes, as CL Sebastian, Snake, and Lizzie tried to handle these bizarre dolls, we come to find out later on. And by the way, uh, a lot of this film kind of have that backstory, like they kind of uh expand on the backstory of how Ciel and Sebastian's relationship was at the beginning stages of their relationship. But uh eventually you notice how Grim Reapers are also getting entangled into the mix to where you see guys like Ronald and no no no, wait, no, not Ronald. Um I don't think they meet Ronald until the public school article. No, no, no, wait, no, it wasn't in Book Land. Okay, yeah, yeah. My bad. Uh yeah. Uh they just meet Ronald in Book Land. That's I remember now. I'm sorry, I listen, five seasons and a movie back to back, something's gonna get blurred.

SPEAKER_00: 1:01:12

I have to clap for you for that because you watch that through to through episode to ending. I have to give you props that because I can't even do that.

SPEAKER_03: 1:01:24

Like, yeah, like I have no notes by the way. Like, normally I would have notes, but like no, I'm free balling, so uh forgive me if I'm getting some uh details, but then again, I don't want to spoil too much for you. Uh, but then again, I'll bust this stuff like bano, so yeah, you know, whatever at this point. But I'm just telling you how I feel for the most part. Right. The fact that The Undertaker, and keep in mind, I kind of like this character. Like, I kind of refrain from talking about him uh in season one because like I do like the but there was like some buildup to where like he's gonna be more involved in the story, and come to find out that he was a retired reaper who smuggled his um sights out of the Reaper society that they were a part of. And his thing is he was like thinking, hold on, what if I can reanimate people by giving them like a false ending? Like, okay, instead of them ending like, okay, let's just splice together uh false memories that will keep them alive, and that's what created the bizarre dolls where it's like they were just zombies looking for a soul. Uh and of course, you know, they didn't really kill them. They tried, but like the Undertaker, he can kind of handle his own, especially having a site that actually looks like a site. Like you can, it's almost as if he was like one of the original Grim Reefers before they started using uh long care and gardening tools as their size. So he was like one of those old school um Grim Reefers, so to speak. And to be fair, it's even more interesting because that, yeah, he's an important he was a former informant for CL, but the main reason why that is is because the Undertaker has been part of the Phantom High business way before Seal or his predecessor Vincent's time. Like he was involved during Claudia's time, um, Seal's grandmother. So I'm like, how deep does this rabbit hole go? But uh yeah, like I want to say, I dare say that was like the best fighting in the whole series, and it was the movie, so of course the movie's gonna have the good fight scenes, but uh yeah, it was like a good conflict that really set the stage going forward with uh what's going on with the Undertaker, how he's gonna affect the plot going forward with all this death and whatnot. Uh that's about all I gotta say for the most part. Like it was very interesting how the movie set things up to where, like, okay, like the movies like required watching, like you gotta watch the book of the land for a lot that makes sense going forward. But uh, Seb, you got anything you want to add on to Book of the Atlantic?

SPEAKER_00: 1:04:46

For someone who waited so long, so after um Book of Circus came out, Book of Murder, I legit thought that was it. We're not gonna get anything else. And then Book of Atlantic came out and I was there. I watched it in Japanese, I waited for it to come out in English. I was literally the most excited. I had to be the most excited person ever because I'm like, yes, this is my favorite anime's coming back. I get to see characters. The one character I hate. I haven't been talking about him, but it's kind of true.

SPEAKER_03: 1:05:25

Oh, no. No, I represent I'm like, it's crazy how like I was trying to like, I forgot about the dude he was introduced in the first season, and then I'm like, oh boy, I forgot I hate him so much that the fact that you kind of alluded to him, I'm like, boom, I forgot about this guy.

SPEAKER_00: 1:05:44

This can't be a guy, but I'm not even gonna talk about him too much. The fact that we got to see someone who's read the manga religiously, to see the actual um our undertaker, our wonderful green-eyed, gorgeous undertaker, is a grim reaper. To see that animated was beautiful.

SPEAKER_03: 1:06:09

I mean, to be fair, like I kind of uh I think we give like a little glimpse of his eyes at one point where I'm like, okay, it's like this uh implication that he is a grim reaper, even from his aesthetics where I'm like, he kind of gives off Grim Reaper vibes. But the thing is, I didn't expect him to be the ox, though. I didn't think he was gonna turn on him like that.

SPEAKER_00: 1:06:33

Well, in the manga, we get to see his eyes, but they're not colored in. So no one alluded to the fact that this man was a grim reaper until we got the book of Atlantic and we saw it animated. We're like, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 1:06:49

Yeah. It was kind of there, but the movie kind of confirmed it. It pretty much confirmed it.

SPEAKER_00: 1:06:56

Most definitely. We got to see this gorgeous. The whole thing is just gorgeous. I love the book of Atlantic, I love the whole Titanic, bizarre doll situation.

SPEAKER_03: 1:07:14

It is kind of funny how like with Black Bowler, like I said, there's like plots and subplots, but I just like how there's like different things. Okay, uh, back a track. I can't believe I forgot to mention him, but like, since he's very important and I'm gonna be talking about an art where it was kind of important to uh Ciel's uh development as well. The Jack the Ripper incident where Madame Red, uh Ciel's aunt, turns out to be Jack the Reaper going around killing uh all these women. But on her side, she had this uh guy, Grill, who turns out to be Grim Reaper 2, the most eccentric Rim Reaper of them all. And by the way, shout out to Mother Kaiju, uh, one of her own in the inner circle. She's doing her Grill Subcliffe on cosplay. Uh, you get to see that as soon as well, you could probably um follow her on Instagram or whatnot. Like, you probably see her Grill Subcliff uh cosplay there.

SPEAKER_02: 1:08:19

But yeah, just want to mention that now that um mention Grill.

SPEAKER_03: 1:08:23

But yes, Grill with his eccentric feeble, like you know, red clothing, red hair, and whatnot, like really got it bad for Bassie. Uh yes, he was Grill was there uh fighting with uh Sebastian and the Undertaker. Uh the whole deal with trying to figure out what's going on, like who's dying next and whatnot. It's funny how there's like all these different things where you got the Jack the Ripper incident where uh okay, we're in Victorian England. So I kind of expected uh Jack the Ripper um storyline to go about, but it's funny how like I'm just not realizing with the Emerald Witch art where I'm like, wait, hold on. Like, is the year, the year that the time period that they're in is really important because you're thinking, like, wait a minute, it's like between England and there's a whole Jet the Ripper incident. But you're kind of thinking, like, hold on, wait a minute. Is there something supposed to happen later on? Like at some point, like something bad, but I'm thinking I can't think of wait a minute, wait a minute, we'll get there in the Emerald Witch Arc. But uh, yeah, like crazy how like all these different things going on, and you have like the Titanic reference, and uh before we get to the next big reference, uh Seb, you got anything to add on to Pokemon?

SPEAKER_00: 1:10:01

You know, that was pretty much it. I just like that that was one of the things I was gonna say. I just like the fact that you see a lot of real life occurrences happening in this anime and manga because the times are so like perfectly aligned. I enjoy the little things like that.

SPEAKER_03: 1:10:19

Yeah, let's go ahead and talk about the public school art. And when I say references, come on now. Alright, nobody's gonna tell me that this isn't a clear uh homage to Harry Potter. Because think about the four houses, you got the prefects, and all this. They even have that whole gaming tournament, whatnot, uh almost like kind of uh quitting type thing. And oh, what a surprise that Vincent Phantom also attended this school, and he was essentially uh the man behind uh Sapphire Miracle. So it's like, oh great, like Ciel essentially Harry Potter now. Like I mean, look at their names for the for the prefect, they made it so obvious. Like uh you have um Reglow, uh Green Hill, Violet, uh Bluer, like bro, bro, bro, bro Yeah, like bro, like y'all making it very obvious that like okay, at some point, uh the Mongako is like, oh shit, Harry Potter's kind of pop, bro. Let me just include that. Like, I mean, to be fair, um Harry Potter is like English based, you know, like in one of those like okay, that's fair, that's kind of fair. Um, you know, that kind of makes sense. I tracks. Uh but not on a serious note. The Queen, she has family that attends what's it called? Uh Derek Aldrin. Uh Aldrin, um, excuse me if I put the name. Not only that, but um thank you. Uh not only that, but four other students went missing. And CL and well, mainly CL, but you know, he of course it's gonna include Sebastian. CO and Sebastian decided to go ahead and investigate Weston College via what the hell's going on, and uh infiltrate as a student while Sebastian is the housemaster. And by the way, at least with Harry Potter, it didn't feel so convoluted with the way their system works. I mean, I did be disrespectful, but come on, dog. Like you have the headmaster, you have the lower master, you have the uh the housemaster, you have the four prefects, you have the fucking drudges, and you have the little fanboy of the drudges, and uh I'm not gonna Jesus Christ. Uh whole point being is that CO was trying to uh investigate what's going on with uh Derek and not gonna lie, I won't say even kind of gloss over the first eight episodes, but it's entertaining in itself, especially with Prince Soma being involved. You think like, oh well, we didn't give Prince Soma enough to do so. Let's get him into the narrative and he played his position. Come to find out, by the time you get to like the ninth, tenth episode, like um figuring all this shit out. Come to find out that uh Derek was bullying other children, like making them like okay, okay, let me back that up. Uh let's start with Maurice Cole, the pretty boy, where he was giving people to do his bidding and whatnot, like making sure that uh his homework is done, the toys are done and whatnot. Uh, making it sound like uh Maurice actually did it, but he didn't. Same thing with what Ciel does with uh Sebastian, and surprise, surprise, uh Derek was doing the same thing with a bunch of other students. So yeah, some students just ain't here. But uh point being is that Derek was being caught bullying other kids uh students, and Derek being the arrogant prick that he was, he was like, Oh well, whatever. Like, uh, my family don't as a whole bunch of what's in call it. So I'm pretty sure I'm gonna get away with it. So if you excuse me, and then Green Hill was like, uh no, yeah, I ain't gonna let you slide with that. So he just passed his head in, and then the other prefects was what, hey yo, bro, like just uh this is all our burden to do. Like, we we're not gonna make sure you're the only one that goes down, like we're like brothers like that. So like we're just gonna share the burden of um being part of the murder and whatnot. Oh, by the way, the lower master was also involved with the bullying and whatnot, like drinking and all that other shit. Like, so okay, so Derek and the lower master wasn't shit. So uh y'all had to go. But uh to cover up for the murders, they decided to call up uh the Dr. Ryan Stoker, you know, him from Buckley Atlantic, and they also have the Undertaker in the mix as the headmaster of all people. So yeah, like that was kind of surprising. Like, well, the first time around, uh, I watched the post school art twice now. The first time around, it was kind of surprised that, like, oh shit, the Undertaker was the headmaster the whole time. Like, how wait, how okay, hold on, like keep in mind, he's a grim reaper, so he can't live long enough to pull that off, or like it's crazy. Like, so you're you're an informant, but you're also the headmaster of Western College on the side. Okay, okay. Um, essentially, the Undertaker was using the school and whatnot to further evolve the whole reanimation process to a point to where, okay, uh, instead of just giving them false memories, let's give them something to look forward to in the future, you know, like um future aspirations and whatnot. You know, giving them a yearning, you know, kind of like what CL got going on, to where like he's fighting for tomorrow in some form of fashion. So let's give my uh bizarre doll something like that. So that was pretty much uh part of the public school art. And as a result of all that going down, the undertakers did end up escaping again, but uh as punishment for their involvement with the murder, because you know, Queen Victoria had no, but she just couldn't let it be publicly known that one of her own family members was responsible for bullying and whatnot. And by the way, um, can I just mention how it kind of infuriates me how kids were being bullied and a member, a teacher, an educator was like not only glossing over it, but he was in on it. That kind of shows you like how it is in real world where kids can get bullied, and it seemed like the teacher, the faculty and stuff, it feels like they don't really do anything about it. If anything, some of the teachers kind of encourage it. And that's kind of a sad thing to come to realize. Uh but yeah, like the four prefects, their punishment were they got expelled, and apparently for them, getting expelled is worse than going to jail or dying. But because, you know, they made that school their whole life, and the whole thing was the whole reason why they committed to the murder is because they wanted the school to be like have a clean reputation and whatnot. Like we kids can't have people going around like uh corrupt educators and whatnot. Uh, we can have this corruption going on, so we're gonna have to like cut this shit out. But we had to cover the murder and kind of made it worse. So yeah. We're murderers, but at least we um didn't go to jail over it, so yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02: 1:18:45

Uh Sabi, you have anything you want to add on to all that to the public school work?

SPEAKER_00: 1:18:52

To save the the the last little bit of this, that episode 10, because you have when you heard about like that um the headmaster, you don't really see him, his eyes are always covered. You kind of realize that there's something going on, but for episode 10, when you realize that that's the undertake, you're like, oh, that makes so much sense. Oh, it's the Aurora Society. Oh, there's more corpses. We just get a continuation of Book of Atlantic anyway.

SPEAKER_03: 1:19:25

Oh, that's the crazy part, too, is like if you didn't watch Book of the Atlantic, the public school art pretty much recaps most of the movie. See, once again, like the only reason why I would say I am now thankful that watch the movie now is that you don't get to see Lizzie fighting or uh I mean you kind of do see like a little bit of frames of um Sebastian, Undertaker, Ronald, and um Grill fighting uh each other, but it's like you don't really see the cinematography of it. Like it was better if you saw the movie, but the public school pretty much did a good job recapping. In fact, I want to say from the public score to the Emerald Witch arc, they have a tendency to recap shit now. Where you didn't get that in the Book of Circus or the um previous seasons, where where now they're like, okay, we gotta like recap shit because at this point the plot it getting so thick to where I'm like, okay, let's recap the episodes, otherwise I feel the watch it's gonna get lost. Especially considering how Black Butler like it's been really stressed out over the past almost 20 years. But no, no, no. Yeah, I wanna say almost 20. I'll give it like 20 years because like it was like what late, I mean early 2010s, like or uh late uh 2000s, um that black butler was uh anime, but um, excuse me. I just think that it's pretty nice that they do ri recaps. Uh was there something else there? Uh Semi, was there something else there?

SPEAKER_00: 1:21:27

I think we covered everything in the public school arc. I know we we get a little bit of a time jump. This is how we all knew that the emerald witch arc was gonna happen because the very last episode, the his butler taking flight, we get a little clip. Meanwhile, in Germany, two hunters pursue a fox into a forest said to be haunted. They ignore that warning and come across a giant wool creature. That's how we knew the emerald witch arch was coming. The fact that we had to wait a year for it is pretty much there because that seems to be the trend with Black Bowler. But that's how we knew that we were gonna get an Emerald Witch Ark, and I was so excited.

SPEAKER_03: 1:22:07

Hell yeah, but it's funny too, where like once again, watching these seasons back to back, like the Emerald Witch Art is the one season that I only watched once now, but uh it's crazy how at the end of the public school art you get that little snippet that is like okay, yeah, the Emerald Witch art is definitely gonna happen. And you kind of interested to know what's going on with this forest and these werewolves that's lurking about. And you watch the beginning of the Emerald Witch art. It's the liter literally the last scene from the public school art, but like at least it's like translated to where, like, okay, for it, uh it's translated in English, so like how can I put it? At least with the public school art, when they ended it, they were speaking in German, but they had like the Japanese and the English subtitles. But in the Emerald Witch art, it's like okay, you can hear them in English if that's your preferred language that you all listen to, the anime. Uh, and then you have the subtitles, of course, but you know, it's that little difference, but they just pretty much added that scene on to the beginning of the first episode. But without further ado, let's get into arguably my favorite season of the anime so far, the Emerald Witch Art. Why? Because I feel like it's my favorite as far as structure and visuals. Like, first of all, the opening theme song. Uh, all of them are bangers in their own right, but like I just like how this one, the song was decent, but the visual of it is almost like, yeah, you can tell that visually this anime is evolving where uh they are kind of exploring more how can I put this like like more enhancement, like okay, perfect example when Sebastian confronts Professor Sullivan, not uh Lady Sullivan, but Professor Sullivan, uh and burning down the laboratory and whatnot, and you see him burning uh in that burning arm room, and you see his uh his like black ore kind of mixing with the flames and whatnot. You see, you don't normally see that in the previous season, so you can tell that okay, at least visually, it's kind of evolving, even though I kind of do miss that whole dull, like kind of saturated look that Black Ball would originally have. Like, but I mean it looks nice, it definitely looks nice, but that's beside the point. This arc, my god, like okay. I like how at this point you're thinking demons, rim reapers, angels. Uh, you're thinking, like, okay, werewolves, all right, you know, at this point, I just assume these sort of things just exist. Like, what's next? Vampires, but uh nah, that's not what's happening. That's not what's happening. So essentially what's going on is that the queen catch wind of people going near this forest and come to find out that by encountering a werewolf, they started um having this curse, and this curse have their bodies like how can I put you see all these bumps and whatnot, like like rats-like symptoms, and then next thing you know, their uh nose is bleeding, and then they just start dying off. Not all of them, but uh it really depends on your tolerance to what's going on with the my asthma, quote unquote. But by the time CL, Sebastian, and the rest of the Phantom Five servants, uh, including Snake, because by now he's definitely included in the narrative of things, uh, they go to this wolf forest, they meet the emerald uh lady uh Seaglin Sullivan, who is the Emerald Witch, kind of like a guardian of this forest, trying to make sure that everybody stays safe from the werewolves. But there's this whole story. I'm sorry, but like oh my god. There's like this whole thing where she had to create this ultimate spell to permanently put uh werewolf anger at bay, where it's like, okay, we want to make sure that no werewolves gonna attack any of my people and whatnot. So let me just go ahead and uh make this spell to do so. And you know, there's this old hat, this uh elder who's trying to drive people away from the forest, and she's trying to blame Ciel and Sebastian for all the shit that's been going on ever since their arrival. But come to find out, as you figure all this shit out, because keep in mind that Ciel and Sebastian, they're gonna get curious, right? They go out into the forest um at nighttime because they were curious to uh see a werewolf from themselves. Like, you know, they're not new to occultic um phenomena. They end up on getting exposed to the miasma, started crying and developing um the symptoms and whatnot. Um, they get into this cauldron that the witch, uh the emerald witch had, and try to prevent himself from dying. But Ciel went temporarily blind, not physically but psychologically, because uh the way Sebastian was trying to uh feed him this uh potion or whatnot to try to uh prevent the symptoms. It was kind of similar to the way he was treated when he was being abducted by the blue coat, that's what I'm calling from at this point. Uh they it kind of shocked him to a point to where like psychologically he went blind, it's like he couldn't see anything. It was to a point to where he just couldn't trust adults, so that's why only Finney was comfortable um being around, and that was uh Finney's accused for having like a little bit more backstory and more agency in this narrative. Uh meanwhile, Sebastian was trying to investigate, see what's going on. And by the time uh a letter from the Queen comes and Sebastian gets the letter and pretty much explains what's going on, uh, what's going on with the sports and whatnot. He tries to get CL to snap out of this infantile state that he's in. And CL's like, no, I don't want to go. Oh, okay, you don't want to. Alright, so let me go ahead and try to eat your soul since you don't want to do your job. You don't want to seek revenge anymore. So I just might as well eat your soul. I mean, it won't be much of a meal. Like, I'll it's a damn shame, but oh well, like since you don't want to do shit anymore, like how am I supposed to eat your soul now? But you know, at the last minute, yo, real I see his dog, he snapped out of it, and they come to find out that this whole emerald witch ship was all a facade. It was a force, it was all just to have this genius girl to develop a toxic gas so powerful that it can kill hundreds, thousands, millions of people with one drop. Like just a really potent toxic gas. And the elder, who was like leading all of it, turns out that was uh Lady Sullivan's um mother, Professor Sullivan. And there was this whole backstory on them, like since we, you know, German soldiers and scientists trying to develop weapons, you know, like it's pre-World War I era, so they were kind of heading in that direction, anyways, uh, especially developing tanks on the Panzer. And uh one accident kind of made the doctor that came up with the toxic gas and one other uh doctor that was like leading the research and also impregnated on Professor Sullivan. He dies, uh Professor Sullivan gets uh disfigured to a point where she's like unrecognizable, and um they just still try to plot to have this girl, uh Lady Sullivan, where they made up this whole story about the Emir With, the wolf force. They have some of the people dressed like werewolves to make it look like there was werewolves. Uh, miasma turns out to be this toss of gas to prevent anybody from escaping. Hell, they wolf room, the butler, like fucking broke her beat her. I don't think like really broke her legs, not like to the shin point, but it's almost like he kind of like snapped her ankles or some shit like that to make sure that she doesn't leave, making it sound like, oh well, every successor of the Emerald Witch just uh have no working legs, but they have the power to uh protect the um people from you know all that shit.

SPEAKER_01: 1:32:36

Blah blah blah.

SPEAKER_03: 1:32:39

But it was all bullshit. It was all bullshit because uh it was all story to tell Sullivan to make sure that she stays focused on making this ultimate tier gas, uh Soline gas, so to speak. And of course, uh Lady Sullivan will feel betrayed by everyone, including Wolfram. But Wolfram was the only one that like actually loved the child. Meanwhile, Professor Sullivan, she like pretty much weaponized her own child for chemical warfare. I'm like, Jesus Christ, like I can't wait to do another Mother's Day review uh both special next year, so that way I can add her to the list of bad anime moms. But uh, yeah, simply Professor Sullivan, all those uh soldiers in disguise, they end up getting killed. I thought Wolfram was about to die, and I was thinking, no, not Wolfram, he was actually the only good one, but no sight, we're just kidding, he's alive, like we're not gonna kill him all. And um since we feel Sebastian, they get Sullivan and Wolfram to meet the Queen and whatnot, you know, try to get them settled in the England, you know. And then they also, you know, sets up World War One. And yeah, yeah. Like, of course there's more to it, like like you said, I mean there's like three more art to go, but um, how did you feel about the Emerald Witch Art?

SPEAKER_00: 1:34:31

Sullivan, she's so cute. Oh my gosh. I love the the Emerald Witch art again. Oh, I read the anime, so I love seeing it come to screen. Um, I don't remember if this was in the anime or not. It's been a little bit. Um, but the reason why in the manga she can't walk is because she actually practices the ancient of foot binding. So that's where they take uh a girl's foot and they wrap it up so tight, so she can't walk at all. And that was the reason why um Wolfram Wolfram carried her everywhere, is because in the manga she practiced foot binding. I do want to say one thing. I fucking hate Hilda Dickhalt.

SPEAKER_03: 1:35:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:35:19

Oh my god. She is annoying, and I fucking hate her for what she did. She knows what she did. She knows what she did. Um, but overall, this arc was leading up to something. Again, we're gonna go in in a little bit. This this arc is leading up to something big, and we're definitely gonna see um Sullivan come into the next arc. We're definitely gonna see more of her. This isn't her ending. We're gonna see tons of her though. My favorite part is when Agne was like, Oh, CL, is this your new concubine? And he's like, What?

SPEAKER_03: 1:36:06

Oh, bro, like let me tell you, like Sullivan, I like how even though she was just trying to make friends, like she seems a little too eager to play a little bit, yeah. Like, like, girl, like for a girl who can't use her legs, you're like really for them, you know.

SPEAKER_01: 1:36:27

You're 11.

SPEAKER_03: 1:36:30

Yeah, that's the crazy part. Like, keep in mind, like, yeah, CL, he's 13. Like, that would kind of bug me a little bit too, where it was like, oh, wait, wait, wait, hold on. Like, so this kid has been 13 this whole time. So, like, so are you telling that a year hasn't even been past um since the start of the um plot? Like, I know it's been three years since uh the incident that kickstarted everything, but I'm talking about like since the beginning of uh season one, like he's been 13 the whole time. Like, really? It's only been one whole year, all this shit happening one year.

SPEAKER_00: 1:37:12

Yep. Yep, that's literally because they reference that all the time. They're like, and we just went to school earlier this year. Oh, and we just spent this time earlier that year, and we're just like, yep, it's been a year. Congratulations.

SPEAKER_03: 1:37:30

Yeah, it's almost like uh kind of no, I'm gonna go that part, but um, but when cat asked catch him, where it seemed like, oh great, like this whole song, y'all went to all this bullshit. For some reason, he's still 13. Uh no, no, no. I kind of I mean, I don't know. I didn't read the manga, but like there's only like three artists left. Like, I was kind of hoping that it was gonna be like a tiny little uh time skip where, like, okay, we get to see CO as like more of a man. Like, yeah, he's a teenager, but like, I don't know. At this point, I'm like thinking, like, okay, uh, I kind of want to see him in a more adult way, you know.

SPEAKER_00: 1:38:23

If you want to see that, I recommend watching it. The OVA, and forget if it's the first or second one. See Ellen Wonderland. I think it's the second one. When he accidentally eats Oh no, it's the first one. When he accidentally eats something, they show him as an adult.

SPEAKER_03: 1:38:41

Oh, okay. Yeah, that's that's fair enough.

SPEAKER_00: 1:38:43

But there's a reason why they don't show him as an adult yet.

SPEAKER_03: 1:38:48

Uh, okay.

SPEAKER_00: 1:38:50

There's a reason.

SPEAKER_03: 1:38:53

Alright. Well, uh, was there any more you want to say about the Emerald Witchwork?

SPEAKER_00: 1:38:58

No, I think we covered it all. Sullivan's great. I love Wolfram. Yeah. That's it. I'm excited for next season.

SPEAKER_03: 1:39:09

Uh, yeah, like because it does seem like it's definitely setting up a whole bunch of bullshit to happen. But uh now that we got through all that, um, is there anything about the three manga arcs that you want to talk about?

SPEAKER_00: 1:39:27

JP, because I've been waiting for this. Oops, dropped my mic, that's how excited I am. Okay, so the next arc, obviously, we go into the blue cold arc. The blue cold arc is the first, hopefully, the next season to come in.

SPEAKER_03: 1:39:45

Oh, what hold on, hold on, hold on. Uh, to the dear listener, we are now going to spoiler territory. So go ahead and uh click off if you're not interested and want uh listen to any of this past the Emerald Witch Arc. Uh, but at this point, you are being fairly warned. So go ahead, Send.

SPEAKER_00: 1:40:05

Okay, so this actually tends to still happen while um Edward is still at Weston College, so he's actually the prefect now in this. Um I'm not gonna go into the full-on detail of it, but Seattle goes to the Midford Manor to find out that Elizabeth has gone missing. Um blah blah blah. I'm really not gonna go too much. And then he Edward professes to Seal that he tried to bring her home. Apparently, she ran away. And this is where it gets to the weirdest part ever. We meet. Seal comes home, and he's like, I'm so tired, I just want to go lay down. He comes in, he takes off his top hat, and standing at the top of the stairs is Ciel Phantom Hive. Now, this is where it gets Ciel Phantom Hive, the one that we're used to with the patch, the whole thing. He is not CL Phantom Hive, he is the younger, weaker twin. He is a twin, everybody.

SPEAKER_03: 1:41:13

Yeah, uh, that's a that was the thing. Like uh the ending of the Emerald Witch art was setting up the fact that there was another Earl Phantom Hive, and you were like, Wait a moment. Is he talking about whoa who you talk about? Are you talking about me or what are you what are you saying?

SPEAKER_00: 1:41:29

So VCL Phantom Hive, he is the older twin, he is the actual fiance to Elizabeth Midford, and he is a bizarre doll. He is the first and only successful walking-talking conscious bizarre doll.

SPEAKER_03: 1:41:50

What the hell?

SPEAKER_00: 1:41:53

So he's kind of under, like he's the undertaker's underling.

unknown: 1:42:01

Oh lord.

SPEAKER_00: 1:42:03

They were kidnapped together, um, but and they were put in the same cage. There's a scene where she's like, I'm gonna protect you forever and ever. We still don't know the C L Phantom Hub, the one that we're used to. We don't know his name. So we call him other C L while we call the other one real C L.

SPEAKER_03: 1:42:27

And you would think, like, okay, as twins, like you're thinking they should have like different names, though.

SPEAKER_00: 1:42:33

Okay, but they do have different names, we just don't know them yet.

SPEAKER_03: 1:42:37

Okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00: 1:42:43

Oh, yes. I'm telling you, like I cannot wait for this to get animated because I'm just so excited to see this get animated. I want to see the scene where it all goes to shit. Well, then we go into the blue memory arc, and it is exactly what it is. It is a memory arc for a reason. We get to see both CLs growing up in the Phantom Hive Manor with Vincent and Rachel and Tanaka. We get to see the third birthday, and when everything is set on fire, where they're sold to the colts. Um, then we get to see obviously so we get we get to see all that. That's literally all it is. It is a blue memory arc, we get to see what happens to them. The blue revenge arc is where things get crazy. Like, I don't mean it crazy. The real seal phantom hive reclaims his title. The other seal phantom hive, he is branded a criminal and is forced to go hide into hiding alongside Sebastian, Baldwin, Finnny, and Mayran, Snake, Lau, and Rand. So Marin and Red Mao get employed as maids by Chris Heathford. Heathfield as for an undercover mission to find out if the Heathford manor is connected to the Aurora Society and the blood collections. Um Baldroy and Lau disguise themselves in what's called the Athena Sanatorium as um the um with the identifies. Baldroy goes to become Matthew, and he is the second son of an aristocrat who is returned home from wounded in battle, while Lao is a doctor. Um they go there and they meet a bunch of different people, including Ronald Knox. He comes back in. Um we meet Layla. Oh, Layla is so pretty. I love her, but she's a bitch. She's so pretty, but she is a bitch. Um, we get that little nice arc where he we get to actually see Baldroy's um backstory. He actually goes to Arizona and he goes to America. He finds the love of his wife, Joanna, and he actually has a son named Baldroy Jr., but they both die. I'm not gonna go into more because I cannot wait to see more of Layla. Layla's a bitch. I'm gonna keep saying that. Um Snake and Finney and head to the F-O-L Orphanage. The FOL Orphanage is where we see doll. If you know who doll is, you know that is where the Book of Circus comes in. That is the doll from Book of Circus. The doll is alive.

SPEAKER_03: 1:45:51

Wait, she well, because the way okay, okay, that's to be fair, because the way Book of Circus made it sound like she shows up after Sebastian and Seal burns down the estate, and oh, she's devastated that Joker uh and Lord Kelvin died in all fire and she's kind of assuming that the others might have died too. So uh she goes charging at Seal and Sebastian trying to kill them and whatnot. But uh Seal gives Sebastian the order, but uh you don't really hear what the order is. You just hear him say Sebastian, so I'm thinking like, wait, hold on. So we're supposed to believe that he killed Doll, but that's not what happened, you're saying.

SPEAKER_00: 1:46:44

No, doll is still very much alive because she's a bizarre doll, too.

SPEAKER_03: 1:46:51

Oh, okay. There you go. That okay, that did happen, but she just comes back to the narrative. And I'm guessing that she's one of the more sentient bizarre dolls. Iron, I mean, that's kind of funny because like her yeah, because like uh her name is doll, so I'm thinking like, okay, she gotta be like a uh more perfected doll. Like, you know, like uh the kind of bizarre doll that hasn't uh the kinks kind of workouts where she's uh being more intelligent, you know, kind of like uh Titan from Attack on Titan, where you have the beast titan where he's like he's intelligent enough to speak. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00: 1:47:38

That's literally it. That's where we end off, and right on the last chapter, because we haven't finished everything, we get the hotel in Brighton, and now we're just waiting for the continuation. I cannot wait for you to meet Layla. I'm not lying, like she's great, she's crazy, she's great.

SPEAKER_03: 1:48:02

She's great, she's crazy.

SPEAKER_00: 1:48:04

She's beautiful, but she's a bit oh yeah, she's got two different personalities. So she's lives in um Athena Sanatorium. She's got a second personality called um, I think it's considered Al or I, or yeah. She's she's around um Phantom Ciel's age, and she wears a nurse's gown, but she's like, she taunts them, she stabs Balroy, she bites Balroy in the neck, like she is absolutely psychopath. And then Ronald Knox is the one who actually takes care of her. Like they end up like, I'm not saying together, but they kind of like get together.

SPEAKER_03: 1:48:55

Okay, companionship of sorts.

SPEAKER_00: 1:48:58

Sure. We're just gonna go with that. Sure. Yeah, absolutely. Like, she is absolutely like crazy. But that's as far as we are in the manga, and I'm really excited to see all of this. I'm gonna I'm gonna tell you. The Blue Revenge Arc, I do have to say, is probably gonna be a really long one, just as well as the Blue Cold Arc. Um, I think Blue Memory might be a um an OVA because it's literally just a recount of what happened so far.

SPEAKER_03: 1:49:37

That would be what they would probably do is like whether it's the I guess, like most likely what they're gonna do is like they're gonna be the blue coat art, and then by the tail end of that, they're just gonna either it's either gonna be like OBA, like you said, or they're just probably gonna uh shoehorn those episodes in at the last minute of the blue core and kind of like mash together on like okay, it's gonna be two art, but mostly it's gonna be the blue core and the short end, like the uh last I don't know, uh three, four, five, six episodes might be the blue memory art. I'm I'm just assuming, and then the final season's gonna be the blue revenge. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_00: 1:50:24

This is how I already know that we're starting to get like this is already in production, it's because we already have voice actors. Yeah, they've already started picking out their voice actors, and it's clear as day. Um, so we'll see what happens next. But that's what I have for the next three chapters.

SPEAKER_03: 1:50:47

Uh, yeah, like I'm thinking like with the blue cold art, I think we already have um voice actors. Like I wouldn't be surprised if because right now we didn't get any announcement of when the next art is gonna be coming out. Like uh, yeah, they may be working on it, but like I didn't hear about an official announcement about the season being in production. So I guess then they just like get into the uh alpha stages of it. I don't know. Um, so I want to think, okay, since we didn't get a big announcement on it, I'm guessing that we might hear about sometime next year, maybe like if we get an announcement sometime this year, I'll that'll be like optimistic at best. But I'm I'm imagining that we're probably gonna get the announcement sometime next year, and then I'm believing that we might end up getting it by because keep in mind with uh anime season when when they announced shit, like you might get it like six months after they made the announcement, uh maybe six to nine months after they made that announcement, uh kind of make it breathe because it's kind of like with uh has been hotels where we reviewed season one and we already knew that season two was coming, but uh that was like fucking a year ago. So yeah, so if we get if we get anything next year, then I would based it off like one year after. I don't know. I really don't know. Like I'm just kind of hoping that we just get announcements or we'll see how soon we get the um blue coat part. Like I'm I'm kind of thinking that we might not see until 2027. Like uh at this point, if we didn't hear anything by now, we might get it on 2027 at the release.

SPEAKER_00: 1:52:54

I would love for us to at least get a hint on December 14th, that's CL's birthday. That would be amazing.

SPEAKER_03: 1:53:02

Yeah, see, that would make sense. Like if it's like a birthday or like an anniversary type thing where okay, it's been this many years since Black Butler um been out. So, all right, we'll let y'all know when the next arc is coming out, being animated. But uh, if nothing else, I guess it's rating time. I will give Black Butler. Well, hold on. Let me think. The plot. Yes, I like the plot where it's like, okay, this kid is trying to figure out who the hell um been plotting on him and his family, but as we figure it's not a simple revenge story, it's more like we're also diving into deeper mysteries and whatnot going on with the criminal underworld and whatnot. So there's definitely more to it than just a simple revenge story. So, okay, I'll give um a full start to the plot. Um, local characters, uh, all of them, like even the support characters, but you kind of want to see more of them. Uh, any excuse we can have to have all these characters, like uh, you know, like Prince Oma, Agni, uh Lau Ramal, uh, you know, the Phantom High Servants, all of them. Like, it's almost like if any excuse that you can have to get them back into the narrative, like, I'd welcome and bring them on. They're likable characters. So folks are for them. Uh the visuals are pretty good. You know, I like the um songs for bangers and uh some things that okay. Okay, okay, okay. I will give Black Butler a nine out of ten. Like, I wanna say a nine for right now because I didn't read the manga yet, so I wanna I wanna see how these other these last three arcs play out before I give it a solid five out of five star, you know, the solid 10 out of 10. Like, not a nitpick, but I'm saying, like, yeah, you know, maybe say my expectations for when the last three artists gets animated, then I might buff it up to uh 10 out of 10, but I don't know, it just feels like a nine. Yeah, it feels like a solid nine. But uh, what about you, Sally? Uh how would you rate uh black bull?

SPEAKER_00: 1:55:52

10 out of 10.

SPEAKER_03: 1:55:53

Yeah, I I I don't even know why.

SPEAKER_00: 1:55:57

10 out of 10, 100, 10 out of 10.

SPEAKER_03: 1:56:01

But uh, okay, but it average that out to 9.5, that's unfair. Like, I mean, hold on, like I'm not trying to be too unfair. We just uh I guess if anything, I kind of wish there was like a little bit more thing. I don't know, I just feel like there was not enough action in some areas. Like fairly a fair amount of action is on season one, but then again, half of season one is anime exclusive. Uh quote unquote season two, not even canon. Um Book of Circus. Not gonna lie, Booker Circus kind of felt a little slow up until that last chunk. Uh, we know when um shit was like going to his crescendo, and I'm like, okay, cool, cool, cool. Uh Booker Atlanta, okay. That that had me locked in. Like, Book of Atlanta had me locked in story-wise. So I'm he definitely got my ups on that. Uh public school art once again, felt a little slow up until the last chunk of uh episodes. That's where I was really like locked in. I was like, okay, now I understand why all this happened the way they did. And honestly, I would say the Eminem Witch art was the one season other than uh season one. Well, only because you know it was season one kind of need to know the storage building and whatnot. Really, the Erm and Witch art was the one season where I just felt locked in, even if there wasn't a whole lot of action in the first half, but uh, even though, yeah, there was plenty of action in the second half, but I'm saying like just the uh mystery of it all. Like, oh, there's werewolf now. Oh, uh, there's like magic now, whatnot. There's like what's it now? Okay, cool, cool, cool. Uh, it just they really had me in that first half, not gonna lie. I really thought uh there was like werewolves and magic going on. To come to find out it was all forest to the trick this one girl into making a tear gas. I mean, not tear gas, a toxic gas, uh, so potent that you know it can turn the tides in a war, so to speak. So, yeah, if anything, I think the nine comes from the fact that it felt a little slow sometimes. Like almost like some of the episodes, I feel like I didn't need to really pay attention to it. But uh, I was there for like the English refinery and the cuisine, though. Like those parts, okay. That was fine and all, but outside of that, it just felt like, eh, you know, just CL and Sebastian and the rest of the crew just fucking around until the plot needs to kick in. Yeah, that's pretty much it. It just felt a little slow here and there, but not that bad. It's just it's a little slow. But that is it for our Black Butler review. Uh do expect more reviews coming out soon, but first things first, they're gonna be on Patreon first. And chances are this episode probably gonna be up into late November because on reasons that I don't feel like going into. Uh, but there's gonna be a whole lot of episodes coming out by November, and then we're gonna have a whole bunch of other reviews coming out January, February. We got this whole thing going out where a lot of what's going Be doing solo reviews now, so we kind of restructuring things. Uh we're trying to do different things like more gaming, more streaming, uh, more 3D printing, more 3D modeling for me, like a whole bunch of other shit that we got going on. So, like, don't be surprised if we kind of slow down on the reviews, but we are still working on them. And until the next one, you go ahead and have yourself uh good morning, good afternoon, good evening, good night, whatever time it is in your area. But always do take it easy. Remember to stay nerd and that great things are coming. Sebbie, let's just go on and zone up out of here.