Kaiju No. 8 (Season 2): Cut Short, Not Cut Deep

The season sets a feast and then walks away from the table. We dive into Kaiju No. 8 Season 2 with equal parts excitement and frustration, unpacking why an 11-episode cutoff lands at the worst possible moment and how that choice blunts an otherwise strong arc. We trace the big beats—Kafka’s mounting risk with every transformation, Director Shinomiya’s devastating assimilation, and Number Nine’s calculating hunt—and show how the anime’s trims soften emotional impact the manga delivers in full.

What hit us hardest was the family thread that should ground the chaos. On the page, the Shinomiya father–daughter bond is layered with grief, love, and a promise broken by circumstance. The anime nods to it, but pulls back just when the story could deepen. Meanwhile, Kafka’s struggle inches from metaphor to consequence: scars that don’t fade, features that harden, and a question the season teases but refuses to answer—why him? Those dream fragments and lapses in control aren’t throwaway visuals; they’re breadcrumbs to a reveal the manga places right after this exact cliffhanger.

We also break down the Number 10 suit and the captain’s quiet genius—less bravado, more psychology—and why their sudden sync matters to the larger war. Then we zoom out to the production layer: pacing that feels like a marketing cadence, cut scenes that cost character, and a finale that trades closure for a trailer moment. If you loved the world but felt shortchanged by the endpoint, you’re not alone. Our take: the core story still slaps, but this cour works best as part one of a binge, or with the manga as your compass.

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Chapters

• 0:00 First Impressions And Frustrations
• 1:06 Season Two Summary And Plot Beats
• 3:47 Manga vs Anime: What Was Cut
• 7:28 Father, Daughter, And Duty
• 10:56 Why Ending At Episode 11 Hurts
• 13:38 Kafka’s Transformation Stakes
• 16:25 The Number 10 Suit Explained
• 19:15 Number Nine’s Aizen-Level Schemes
• 22:04 On Pacing, Hiatuses, And Money Grabs
• 25:10 Comparisons: Dandadan, Chainsaw Man, Demon Slayer
• 28:02 Binge Advice, Scores, And Sign-Off

Transcript

SPEAKER_03: 0:01

What up, gang? Let's talk about kaiju number eight, season two. I'm gonna be straight up. It was I like on the one hand, there were things going on, but at the same time, it felt like it's kind of like how I felt about Windbreaker Season 2 and uh what was the other one? Oh not Dad to Dan. But uh it was oh yeah, my dress of darling season two, where lately this season, this um summer season, it kind of feels like some of these season two releases feel like if y'all just slam season one and season two together, I think it would have been better for it. But for some reason, kaiju gonna race season two is like, yeah, there was some things going on, but I don't know. I just didn't really feel like anything was really happening. Uh Kokos Galaxy, I do thank you for being on for this episode. Uh I'm just gonna say what my impression is, and the four is gonna be yours. Essentially, what I gathered from this season was okay, it started off with them having a day off except Kafka was recuperating from his little exhibition with director Shinomia. And then as soon as that was all done, uh Kaiju number nine was plotting all over again, where he's like trying to sniff out kaiju number eight, trying to steal his powers and whatnot. But come to find out that it was like a ploy to where we're just gonna act like I'm looking for kaiju number eight, but in actuality, he was going after the director, he fights the director, he gives up the fight. Um the the director gave it it all, but ultimately he ends up being consumed by kaiju number nine infusing, and after that, it was pretty much him trying to Kaiju number nine trying to create more kaiju, and the defense force had no choice but to go on the offense by going up against kaiju number nine. Meanwhile, we have some of our main players gaining number weapons, and that's about it for me. It just basically comes down to director Tsunomia uh getting absorbed. Like, I don't know if he died yet. Like, he's like his consciousness is still in Taiji number nine, so I don't know if I would say he died, and but I didn't get that far into the bonga, so I I really don't know. But uh I don't think he fully died, but it's just being treated as a death. But yeah, like you know, people getting their upgrades. Kafka needs to learn how to fight without resorting to the kaiju form, but at the same time, he kind of needs to embrace it. But also, it seems like he got the same thing going on. Asta has and black cold where the more they use that form, the more it seems like it's like permanently disfiguring them to a point where like you probably don't need to be using that form all that much, but that's just my impression of it. Cookie has two floors reward.

SPEAKER_01: 3:22

Okay, well, I mean, you're giving me quite a lot to be able to put on the floor, though. I so I'm gonna go ahead and put it this way I enjoyed season one so much that I read the manga. Um, by the time season two of the anime came out, the manga had completed, or pretty much near completed, so I have already finished it. And I'm gonna be honest with you, this was the most troubling season for me because this is one of those ones where and I hate to put it in this aspect, because the series ended, and then I like the manga series ended, and I went back and watched the anime. I was very confused because I couldn't remember where I left off at, where the anime had left off at. So I was sitting here like, wait, Shinomi is still alive. You know, I was like, oh wait, hold on. Oh no. I was like, I forgot. That's right. Season one anime ended when they just found out who he was. I forgot about that. And I'm like, oh, okay, that's really far back. Um, it's not I'm not gonna say it's chapter for chapter type of thing. Uh, even season two does follow the manga chapter, like pretty chapter for chapter. There is slight differences that's in there. Um, they did cut some of the character development, like for example, with the first squadrant with the um pretty much the new head captain and um Sonomia the girl, like with her, they there's more interaction between them. That kind of gives a little bit more leeway of how things went. Because for her, it's a big there's a moment for her where she struggles to accept him as the new head captain because her dad carried himself in such a pristine way. Like, um, there's it's more intense in the manga when they talk about the fact that how his relationship with his daughter was supposed to be, because what it was is like they mentioned it in the anime, but it was more intense in how they did it, and there's like a more of a monologue with head captain Shinomia, because what it is is that he was supposed to be the dad that spoiled the girl, he was supposed to be like, Oh, that's my little princess, and you you wouldn't see that in him now, like he's such a hard-faced dude. But that was not how he was, yeah, but that's not how he was. He was that person that was always smiling, like like that would be a crazy thing about it. They don't show that in the anime, but they show it in the manga. He was that guy that was always smiling, and that's why it's such a big thing for her, is because she's trying to get back that approval for her dad of him smiling, but she doesn't understand that she already has his approval. He knows that she's wrong, he knows that she's doing what she can do. The thing about it is that he still does not like that she's in the defense force because he loves her so much, he doesn't want her to put her life on the line. But he's like, I'm gonna have to be hard on her because this is what she wants to do, and I can't give her special treatment.

SPEAKER_03: 6:14

Also considering that they're just gonna throw her in there. Um, also considering the fact that um they well, she lost her mother during um during the fight against kaiju number six, I believe it was. Yep, yep, yeah, strongest kaiju. Yeah, so it's like even more so is like I already lost my wife, I don't want to lose you too.

SPEAKER_01: 6:42

Exactly. And because and that was the thing about it, is the fact that the relationship, what it was is that the mom was always she was always like kind of bubbly, but when she would be firm, she would be like a firm mother, type of thing. So that was the agreement that they had was the fact that she was like, I want you to be the dad that spoils her, I want you to be like the princess, but I'm gonna be the hard mom that's gonna help push her through type of thing. She's like, That's what how I want our dynamic, I think that's gonna work out best for her and how it's gonna be. So when you know, when his wife died, when her mom had died, it became that point that he was like, I have to choose which role I'm gonna take. But the problem was is that right after she died, he became head captain. He wasn't head captain at that moment. This is one thing that they don't really quite mention. He was not the the head of everything when his wife had died, um, before his wife had died. He became that right after she died. So he had to choose what was his head cannon gonna be, and he wound up choosing to be the firm father because he felt that that was the best way in order to help his daughter push forward, which is the truth, it did wind up helping, and that's why she was always so happy every single time that he would mention, I'm proud of you, you're doing a good job. Like he would be that firm hard hand onto her at times, but he was always hurt on the inside of having to say that. And that's one thing again, like it's mentioned more in the manga. They don't show that in the anime. Like when he wound up going off on her, it was like, You got to hold yourself high, you know, you gotta hold this family name strong, and things like that. He actually hurt him, he he was hurt saying that. He didn't want to say that to her, but he was like, I have to play this card in order for you to push stronger. He's like, I can't baby you in this situation, we're in a life and death situation, and if you're really wanting to do this, no one's gonna hold your hand. You're gonna be in a moment where you're gonna be fighting these kaiju, you could die at any moment. Nobody's gonna hold your hand at that point, it's just gonna be what it is, and so it's like it that's where it becomes more intense because the pacing of the manga is really good because it does intensify that moment. Um, I will say so. Season two feels off the reason being is because they cut it too early. So there's a couple things that I'm gonna just mention. Kafka at the very beginning of season one had a dream of him going ballistic and attacking everyone, right? And you know that that's a fear that he has that he can't control himself after he fought head captain Xinomian and lost himself, so he's scared of that happening and stuff. There's further into that because that also him losing control ties in to when he was in the shrine and he wound up seeing an old samurai shogunate there. So the thing about it is is that at this point in the in the show, we're supposed to there's an explanation of why it is Kafka was the one that was chosen to be kaiju number eight. Because at the very beginning, the monster showed up and said, I finally found you, and then boom, inserted himself into him, and Kafka became Kaiju number eight. And he's like, Okay, but why me? This is actually the point that we're supposed to get that answered. All this is starting to set up for it, they're dropping hints into it, and we're supposed to get an answer that's supposed to piece things together. The reason that the pacing for season two sucks is because they cut it at 11 episodes, which is the worst point to cut it at.

SPEAKER_03: 10:13

Because it's a weird number to end it on.

SPEAKER_01: 10:16

It is, it's a very weird number. The thing about it is that they wanted to end it when he showed up because remember, the way it was set up with season two is that he's not there the entire time. Like he's there, but he's being held back, and it ends with him finally saying, Forget it, I'm joining the fight. And then they're like, All right, we're gonna cut the season right there. But it's like, no, that's actually the worst part.

SPEAKER_03: 10:36

Hold on, can we talk about that real quick? That one panel when he turns around, you see that glowing eye and whatnot. I've been hearing that a whole bunch of people like criticizing the way he was he's looking now, and I'm looking oh, okay, hold on, hold on, hold on. All right, first of all, his manga appearance was like he his face is like sharper, like his first with the jaw on and whatnot.

SPEAKER_01: 10:59

But with the anime, do what now? I'm green. The animation um is lack had uh started lacklustering off in season two than season one. But yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03: 11:12

Gotcha. But honestly, with him in the anime, where it seems like his um features are more like square and blocky, I was thinking, I don't know. I mean, I'm not tripping. I mean, I like the way he looked in the manga, but like with the anime version, I'm like, well, at least he looks like he could be in his 30s. Like, yeah, I'm not I'm just not tripping about it. Just you know, I just that's a weird thing that they're reacting to it now. It's like okay, uh, but to be fair, sometimes like some reactions gets a little well, I don't know. Because on the one hand, like you always look like that in the anime for a while, and they wait until now to uh can can I mention this?

SPEAKER_01: 12:01

This is also why I say episode 11 was the worst part where they cut it off at because there is an explanation that was given in the manga right after this moment. So and let's just be clear, we already know how this is gonna go out. So it's not really a spoiler, okay? He's gonna wipe the floor with that other kaiju. We know this for a fact. That's that's just a given. He's he's the anime hero protagonist that showed up at the last minute, and this is not even the fight that he's looking for. Number nine is happy because he just found out that he popped up. That fight is good, the fight between Kafka and number, I think it was a 12 or something like that. That's gonna be a quick behind fight because number nine is gonna pop up. He's like, I finally found you. We know that's gonna happen, even if you didn't read the monk, it's very clear and obvious. Here's the thing about it: the reason people were upset about it, about the animation, about how he looks, is because there's two things that they mentioned that happens to him with his constantly transforming. First off, you notice he's got the scar on his hand. They're noticing the fact that if you keep if he keeps transforming, he's not gonna transform back. There's a little bit more of a reason into that, and it's actually really good how the writer did this. And I I don't want to spoil it, but it's just there's a whole thing into that that was like, wow, that's actually an amazing uh how you did how that worked out for me. But the thing about it is it's him transforming, is also changes how he looks in his kaiju form. His kaiju form becomes sharper, he gets more spikes as he continues to transform more because his body is turning more kaiju. So when he first turns kaiju form, you understand that he only looks, he looks like a menacing kaiju when he gets really angry. But when he's goofy, he doesn't seem like that goofy. He doesn't seem like that. It's like, oh, you know, he's just kind of he has a kind of a roundedness to it.

SPEAKER_03: 13:50

Hold on, now that you're saying it like that, it's like it's kind of reminding me of the same relationship Eddie Brock had with Venom, except it's not like two voices. Well, it's not like uh buddy with a Kaiji number 10 suit where it's like okay, it's two voices and they're kind of uh fighting each other in a way in a comedic fashion. It's funny how they call it, they even call them a comedic duel, and I'm like thinking, oh, they are that's so Eddie and Venom. But yeah, in this case, they did it.

SPEAKER_01: 14:19

More explanation of manga there too. Continue, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03: 14:22

But in this case, it's like okay, it's more symbolic to wear, like, oh, you know, like in Spider-Man 3, you know, like with the Symio Spider-Man suit where he kept wearing the suit, and his attitude kept shifting and whatnot. He started getting more lethal and whatnot, and he was like, Whoa, hold on, let me take this shit off before I go down a path that I can't um come back from, and that's pretty much his struggle right now with Kafka. Yeah, at least that's my impression of where I'm getting from.

SPEAKER_01: 14:52

That's that's pretty much what it is, yeah. Because the thing about it is that the kaiju is still a menace in itself, the kaiju is its own entity inside of him, it's resting inside of him, but the kaiju is purposely relinquishing control. But understand this you ever notice the fact when number nine comes out, Kafka kind of loses himself a little bit. If you notice the fact that when Kafka actually gets very upset and angry, he starts losing control of the kaiju a little bit. There's a reason for that. There is a reason for that, and that's the reason why he was chosen to be a kai, chosen to be kaiju number eight, is because of his patience that he has, because of his kind heart, type of thing. They couldn't choose any other person, so it's that's kind of a spoiler. Forgive me onto that. It is kind of a spoiler into that. Anybody just like with Kingdom Hearts, anybody could have had an opportunity of being the chosen Keyblade wielder, anybody could have been kaiju number eight, but the problem is because of how kaiju number eight came to be, which I would not spoil, because of how kaiju number eight came to be, only a person of a kind, pure heart could control it. And that's why they sought out Kafka, because of his persistence, his diligence, and his kind nature. That was the thing about it. So it was a particular reason why he was chosen into that, but again, you that's why I'm so frustrated they cut off at 11. Because right after this fight, he has a conversation with number nine, because number nine knows why Kafka is kaiju number eight, and he even makes a mention to him about he makes a he says something to him, and I'm not gonna say what it is because it would give a look, it's not gonna give a little bit of spoil, but it will also explain to you why I say I hate that they cut it off because it happens literally right after that quick fight. Number nine shows up and talks to um talks to Kafka, and he literally mentions something, and Kafka's like, What are you talking about? And that is what sets a whole lot of like wait. Those dreams that he had, that that was a sign, though those were messages, that was something for him, and that's when like this is the worst part to cut it off. It's like you teased everything, it's like imagine you're cooking a dish and you pulled out all the seasonings and then you didn't cook anything. You're just like, so you're gonna use this, you're gonna use this, you this, and this is all the ingredients that you need to make the dish, and then you cut the video, and you're like, wait, you're not gonna show me how you made the dish? No, no, I'm just gonna show you the ingredients. Why would you do that? It feels good. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03: 17:29

It's crazy that you're saying this because you know how we normally get an announcement of when uh the next season is gonna be in production or whatnot, or if there's even gonna be a uh next season confirmed. We didn't get that this time around, and that makes it even more concerning.

SPEAKER_01: 17:46

Exactly. Because it was just like this was a horrible part to pace off. Like I could excuse the animation thing until because yes, he's supposed to look more monstrous as he transforms because he's becoming more of the kaiju the more he transforms. But then the other issue becomes is there's so much, there's so much story is there. Like I'm gonna mention you said old buddy with um uh was the captain with the kaiju number 10 suit.

unknown: 18:11

Right.

SPEAKER_01: 18:12

Remember, they call him the comic duo. So here's the thing: do you know when it is that their synchronization increased? Do you know what it was that the captain did in order to make the synchronization increase with number 10?

SPEAKER_03: 18:24

Dang, oh I know my throw on board is I'm throwing a point.

SPEAKER_01: 18:28

It wasn't because they didn't explain it. They just he just did something. He mocked him, and then all of a sudden their synchronization went up. Why would that happen? It doesn't make sense, right? Yeah, and that's why I said in in the manga, they actually explained it. What happened is that this captain, he's great with understanding people. That's something about his backstory that actually, based in the manga, we would have got we actually got his backstory here, but I guess they're gonna push it for later. So I think they did change, they changed that, but you understand more of his backstory, he has an understanding of people. So here's the thing he mentions the fact that he's like, I'm always stuck with these knuckleheads, and he mentioned in this no flash is kaiju number 10, and then flash is Kafka, and then Kafka is kaiju number eight. So I'm always stuck with these knuckleheads who always want to do things on their own pace. He says, Okay, I can't die here right now. What I'm gonna have to do is for the time being, I'm going to have to let them do what they want to do in order to survive. So he actually that's the thing he mentions into it. The reason he mocks 10 is because he even says, Come on, your main thing is that you want to prove me wrong. Because they cut out that little conversation that they had with 10 as well. Too. When 10 says the reason he wants to, the reason he chose that captain, he says, I want to choose you, he said, because nobody ever gave me a fun fight like you. I don't think anyone else is gonna have let me have fun like you would let me have fun. He says, I want to fight with you because you earned me, because that you because the fight was amazing, you didn't cheat, and we have, and I had fun doing so. That's the thing about it. That's where the synchronization was going off was the fact that he was like, I keep trying to take control, and you keep trying to take control. It's that whole bleach, um, Ichigo versus his hollow, where it's like, who's the horse and who's the king type of thing. Both of y'all battling to be the king and the horse type of thing. And it was that moment of like, I have to become king by letting my horse do what it's supposed to do. I've already given my horse the path. I need to let it ride now. I've told the horse, hey, we're going there. And the horse is like, all right, we're gonna get there, but we're gonna get there my way. If I've already given it the destination, let it do what it's gonna do. That's reasonable. He he always challenges them constantly. He was like, hey, I'm gonna let you do this. I'm not gonna do anything. I'm gonna leave it to you. And he puts his hand, he puts his hands down, puts blade, um, relaxes his hands with the blades. He said, I'm not gonna do anything. If any of them touch me, you're going to the scrap heat because that means that you're worthless. And he keeps mocking him because that's what got 10, that's what's getting 10 excited. Tin won likes to have fun, but 10 likes to prove himself. Tin likes to be like, I'm I'm that about it guy. Tin specifically mentions the reason also that he wanted to fight is that he requested being turned into a suit. It's because he was he was told that he's the prototype. Number nine told him, You're a prototype, and I'm gonna make one stronger than you. And that excited him because he's like Goku. You mean you're gonna make something stronger? I want to fight that stronger. Tell me what that stronger is. I want to fight that stronger, and that's who it is that he's going up against. Number nine purposely did that to Tim because he also purposely had 10 become a weapon. Number nine is thinking on Aizen level, bro. He's literally thinking on Aizen level stuff. He purposely he knew Tim was gonna want to be it, was gonna want to be turned into a weapon. That's the reason why 10 is there's a reason why 10 is the only kaiju that can maintain his consciousness. They said they tried to remove his consciousness, but it wasn't working. Okay. I'm like, there's so much, there's so much story that was there, and I'm just like, oh my god, you cut off it at the wrong time. You cut out some backstory. Because remember, I mentioned before that I was like, I thought I thought maybe they were adding extra fluff, but I was like, why would they do that? There's enough, there's literally enough content to make a season two, season three, but this could be a three-season anime and be done. Um, which no, they're drag, they're gonna drag it out four seasons with how they're doing this pacing, which is absolutely terrible. Um I fully agree with you on that one. Like, why would you cut off at 11? Like, why wouldn't you just make it 24 episodes or something like that? Like, this literally could be three seasons done and be.

SPEAKER_03: 22:59

I can't forgive it if season three was like half a year from now, like then to dance where it's like, okay, give us six months. See, I mean, if you like planned it ahead of time, where like okay, we're just kind of like pushing out a couple episodes at a time and like doing like once every six months, here's 11 more episodes. Okay, fine, I can live with that, but the fact that you keep giving us 11 episodes, and this second time around, we don't know when the next season is gonna come. I'm like, uh that's crazy because it's almost like they're trying to stretch out um kaiju number eight. Because you just said that the manga concluded, in fact, it concluded last year, if I'm correct. Uh it concluded last year, so basically you're trying to stretch out the anime so that way the overall uh conversation about kaiju number eight as a story just keeps circulating.

SPEAKER_01: 23:57

But I'm like and keep in mind as well how the pacing, uh-huh.

SPEAKER_03: 24:02

But I just don't want to be like, well, oh okay, even though to be fair, it's still entertaining in its own right. But I just don't want to be like Wednesday to where two, three years later, we finally get a new season, and I'm sitting there like, oh shit, I completely forgot what happened in the last season.

SPEAKER_01: 24:20

Exactly. And that's why I was telling you that that's how it was for me. When I finished the manga, I forgot where the anime left off at. So I was assuming we were further ahead, and I was like, oh shit, wait, no, we're not there yet. Um, hey, let me rewind my brain back and try to see what's going on here. So I'm like, okay, uh, let's let's rewind it back type of thing. Um it's very aggravating to pay and then keep in mind on this with the pacing of the manga is how how the mangaka did it in order to make sure that he was like not overworking himself but still keeping a maintained pace, is that he would release uh three to four chapters and then go on a three-month hiatus. So it was three to four chapters, three-month break, three to four chapters, three-month break, and did that for like almost the entire manga series. Okay, so in doing that pacing, still finish the series, the manga series, and the anime only just now released season two.

SPEAKER_03: 25:15

I'm like, wait, it's almost like it's almost like I mean, I I don't really know what happened exactly, I'm just guessing, but if it was me, I'm thinking like, how come there wasn't an anime adaptation sooner if this was gonna happen?

SPEAKER_01: 25:32

Like that's the thing, and they did like when they and when they started working on season one, sorry, I had to move my mic a little bit. Um, when they started working on season one, they started working on season one, uh, like not even halfway, it was way earlier than halfway through the manga is when they started working on it. They could have kept up with the pacing without having to do any filler episodes and stuff. Like there was no issues in whatsoever for them to do so. I I have no clue. It's just it's literally just a money grab thing, and it's like, dang, don't ruin a good series to be a money grab. Don't don't be so money hungry that you start messing things up, because then you're gonna start losing a fan base for this.

SPEAKER_02: 26:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 26:11

Because it's like uh because the way even the way it ended, it's set up to where it could also be a um a second series, kind of similar to um how solo leveling concluded, and solo leveling can um can continue on with being another series, it's already started off his next series now with uh um also Juicy Kaiser.

unknown: 26:30

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01: 26:31

JJK has already um continued now. We already understand who we already found out which characters have died and which characters have come how are still alive and stuff.

SPEAKER_03: 26:41

Alien sorcerers.

SPEAKER_01: 26:47

Jojo did it all. That's all I'm about to say. JoJo has done it all.

SPEAKER_03: 26:55

Alright, um you got anything else you want to add on to this season?

SPEAKER_01: 27:00

Yeah, yeah, just a couple things I know we're gonna we're gonna close this out. We didn't want to spend too long into it because hey, you cut the series short. Um, a couple things just to quickly mention, uh, Kafka's dream sequence that's longer than in the manga, um, which is kind of confusing. I'm like, why the hell are they making so long? And then you cut you cut the series out like that to where you're not giving an explanation shit. Dumb as hell. Anyway, so I there's not really a reason for for that. It is the animated the sequence is longer than it needs to be. It was very short and simple. It was a very short nightmare that he had, and trying to figure that out.

SPEAKER_03: 27:36

Uh, well, at least this season, has the same problem that Danadan have, like with both their seasons where it's like they just ended on a weird note. Like, okay, yeah, uh, like I told Tonara in the Danada review. Uh, I know you were on season two, but I'm just gonna recap what I said on there. Essentially, with season one, it ended with okay, if they just ended it with Okaroon and Gigi finding that secret room and that's it, I'm like, okay, fine. That adds enough, and that adds enough natural intrigue to it. But what I didn't like about how they ended it was they ended it at the part where it's like, okay, Momo is getting gatored by some old men. I'm like, uh, I don't, I don't think that's the note you want to leave it on. And then season two, it's like, okay, they fought this kaiju with this mech that made out of the house. You know, if you've seen season two, it'll make sense, like just watch season two. But uh, they ended it with, oh, turns out that there was this girl inside the suit, and like, okay, her kissing Okaroon and Momo just having to watch it, all right. That's like interesting enough. Yeah, like kind of like rage bait, but no, hold on. The one thing I didn't like about how they ended season two was that when you um not paying attention, you like you see the house blow up behind Momo, and I'm sitting there thinking, wasn't Iron in the house? And and that's the thing. If you read the manga, you already know, but for people who only watch the anime, they gotta wait like a year or two just to figure out what the hell just happened. So I'm just saying, like, uh, it's just weird how they be ending these seasons on these notes, and it's like gonna feel like those are gonna take forever just to get answers. We might that's why I told Tanara that sometimes anime serves as a companion to the manga to where the anime just supposed to drum up enters into the manga because you know at the end of the day, the manga sales is driving the whole fucking thing as far as like if they even get funding for producing the anime.

SPEAKER_01: 29:55

Yeah. And then also the fact that of like uh sales of items and stuff like that. That too, like right. Yeah, pacing is always gonna be a big issue when it comes down to it because a lot of times these directors that they have are not they don't know when's a good suspense point to hang out that to end at. They're like, okay, we're gonna end at this suspense point right here. And it winds up being like, Okay, that's the worst, literally worst scenario of suspense that you could have ended at. You have now made things more confusing than it's supposed to be. And you or you, like I said, like you did that analogy about the food. It's like you've laid everything out, and then just everyone's just expected to figure things out on their own, type of thing, and no one's gonna do the recipe correctly, no one's gonna know what you're doing.

SPEAKER_03: 30:39

You know what's crazy to make it a little relevant to guys like me to where, like, imagine the 3D print community where you think just because you buy a 3D print, that's all you need. Oh no, no, buddy, no. Like, you need a whole bunch of tools, and you need to know this, that, and the third, and the 3D print community sometimes act like they don't even want to tell you, like, you're just gonna have to figure it out on your own. I'm like, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_01: 31:03

Yeah, or the gaming community. Think about it this way. Imagine Dark Souls, the tutorial wasn't even they they just didn't explain to you what the buttons were. It's just like, hey, so there's a button that's gonna tell you to jump, there's a button of how you attack, and there's a button of how you dodge. Good luck. And you're like, wait, what's the buttons? What you just you you gave you told me that there's something, but you didn't tell me anything at all. I'm like, yeah, that's the point. That's where it becomes problematic.

SPEAKER_03: 31:28

It's like you you'll be better for it by figuring it out together on your own. I'm like, bro, that just sounds like an excuse for y'all to be lazy volunting me the information, you know.

unknown: 31:40

Exactly.

SPEAKER_03: 31:40

You're cutting corners trying to stop lord.

SPEAKER_01: 31:46

But yeah, that's that's what I got. And then um, and then I'm not gonna spoil it into this with us, but I'm gonna put it in this aspect here to just kind of give some hints into the question that you asked earlier. Um, Shinomia by throughout season two, should um head captain Shinomia is not fully dead yet. As you can see, he's like they constantly show him, they still show him like in the pool of water and stuff like that, right? Um, because his subconsciousness is still alive, but he keeps mentioning that he's purposely trying to hold on. So there is a relevance for why he's doing so. There is a thing about it is that um number nine mentions specifically, he says there's a cooldown period every single time that he assimilates someone into his body. He said there's a cool down period, and keep in mind the fact that he knew he was about to die right after he absorbed the head captain because he had to go up against Kafka and um I can't remember old buddy's name, but uh is is Ren. Yeah. Um Ren about um because both of them were tearing his ass up like left and right type of thing. He was about to die that fight.

SPEAKER_03: 32:53

Were you talking about the um captain of the birth division?

SPEAKER_01: 32:57

Yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_03: 32:58

Oh, again, yeah, with the D. That's what again.

SPEAKER_01: 33:01

Yeah, so they were about to kill him. He knew he was about that's why even um number nine was like, Oh shit, you said I should start off with this the first place. He says, Y'all won't leave, y'all won't let nobody die, and that's my chance to escape. But it would they was about to kill his ass right there, like in even in the manga, it was the same way. Number nine was like, Holy shit, I'm about to die. He was like, Yo, this is this is not what I planned for. I didn't think this would happen. And he's and then he but the in the manga he says this that he doesn't say in the anime. This assimilation is taking longer than it should. So I'm gonna leave it on that note. Leave it on that note if that that still doesn't answer your question. Like I said, I don't want to spoil it for you.

SPEAKER_03: 33:42

No, yeah, so there we go.

SPEAKER_01: 33:46

That's all I got for for season two. I guess it there's there's a lot, but the problem is there's a lot that is not removed, they didn't remove anything, it's just they cut it off at a terrible time.

SPEAKER_03: 33:58

So yeah, season three.

SPEAKER_01: 34:00

Anybody?

SPEAKER_03: 34:01

That's that's just yeah, that's the main thing. It's like you are leaving a lot of information out depending on a season three that you didn't even announce yet. That's the weirdest thing. That's the weird part for me. But um, I'll say that, you know what? I want to say I'm still gonna Kai N Ray is still an eight out of ten overall for me. It's like it's it got so it's like I wanna like you, I really wanna like you, but you're just not there yet.

SPEAKER_01: 34:34

And again, this is not the writing of the story part, like the story writing is fantastic. Is it perfect? No, nothing's perfect, but it's really fantastic. It's just it's this the studio, the anime studio's paste, it's just a bad place of cutting off. It just if you want to, I guess you could do what I did. Like when season one ended, I was so excited. I just like I couldn't wait. I was like, I want to read it, I just want to go ahead and read it, especially after the time.

SPEAKER_03: 35:02

Now because I'm uh uh you ain't gonna keep uh blue balling me with these season finales. Um uh-uh, I might as well just read the manga. Fuck it.

SPEAKER_01: 35:11

Pretty much, but yeah, that's like I took exactly the note that Tylos had said at the end of season one of Kaiju November. He's like, he said, Jerry, just read the manga.

SPEAKER_00: 35:20

I'm like, you know what? I got you. He said, Coke, read the manga. I said, I'm gonna read the manga. I read the manga and I'm like, oh my god, this thing is amazing. I said, uh, doing the three months I ate it's no.

SPEAKER_01: 35:33

But yeah, that's the this is one of those ones that I don't I'm not at a point of saying, don't watch the anime read the manga. No, the anime is still good, it's terrible pacing. This is one of those ones you're gonna want to binge it. Like this if they're gonna cut with them doing this pacing, it's better to binge.

SPEAKER_03: 35:50

Hold on. To be fair, at least it's not like chainsaw man, because I'm like, bro, like how long ago was season one? And I know the movies coming out this year, but I'm like sitting like thinking, how long was season one again? And and I I I actually dove into the manga and I'm like, bro. Yeah, for those of you who only watch the anime, get ready for some bullshit.

SPEAKER_01: 36:16

Very true. I will say this, uh it's a quick note into it. Chainsaw Man is already topped the Demon Slayer movie in Japan. Um so really just yeah, they already released a whole article about that where it's already topped um Demon Slayer, and I'm like, wow, okay, that's all that hype, all the hype.

SPEAKER_03: 36:36

Well, I know it's like United States um boss boxes or whatnot, but it's like all that hype um by the numbers on Demon Slayer, and then like hell, it didn't climb on it to this day yet, as far as um Chance on Men the Red art. So we'll see. But it's like it's yeah, at this point, Demon Swell Demon Slayer is almost ending as an anime, anyways. Like they're just pretty much doing movies at this point. I mean, there it's not even that close. Like, okay, I dove into the manga for Demon Slayer, so that's why watching Infinity Castle didn't have a whole lot of urgency because I kind of already knew. Uh yeah, I I mean I'm still gonna watch the movie, but I I I'm just taking my sweet time getting to it. But point being is that they're gonna split up Infinity Castle and the three movies, they already did one. Uh the second one, I don't know when that's gonna be, but I'm guessing that they're gonna give it like two years apart. Uh, I mean, granted, ooh, when they explain how uh it took three years to animate the background for the Infinity Castle, but that's only because they got new equipment. If they stuck with the old equipment, it would have taken 10 years to make that shit. And I'm like, oh, y'all underestimate how much work it takes to put into animation. Like, well, but um, yeah, three movies, and then there's uh sunrise showdown art that's come right after it. But it's mainly just them up against Moose on for the most part. But I think what they're gonna do is that they might incorporate that final arc into the third movie. That's just my theory. Either that or it's like they're gonna make a three-part movie and then one final movie, and that's the sunrise arc. Um, but yeah, like the way they just kind of stressing it out. It's almost like they'd be taking notes from a tackle fighting that's like, okay, let's just speed. How can we stretch out this franchise for as long as possible? This each um having circulation. I'm like, bro, dawg, like just come on, dawg. Like, don't drag it out. Like at this point, like you're just pissing on people off. Like, we kind of want to just get it over with already. I don't know. Like, some people want to ride for as long as possible, but hey, I'm one of those guys that feel, hey man, like, listen, sometimes we just gotta get to our destination at some point, right? I know it's kind of hard to uh say goodbye to one of your favorite franchises of all time, but nothing lasts forever. Unfortunately, that's just not how it works. But yeah, that's all I have to say.

SPEAKER_01: 39:13

Um, Kokey I do have anything else? No, no, I already said that was done.

SPEAKER_03: 39:17

Okay, cool, cool, cool. All right, so dear listener, thank you for listening to us to the end. Kokey guys, thank you for being on the show. Uh, go ahead and have yourself a good morning, good afternoon, good evening, good night. But ultimately, do take it easy and remember to stay nerdy and that great things are coming. We are zoning up out of here.