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Wednesday (Season 2): A Continuation of Woe
The veil between worlds grows thinner as Wednesday Addams returns to Nevermore Academy for a sophomore season that's darker, more complex, and surprisingly emotional. Following her heroic defeat of Joseph Crackstone, Wednesday now faces a new mystery involving ravens, missing body parts, and an ancient Nevermore secret that traces back to her parents' school days.
What sets this season apart is how deeply it explores the Addams-Frump family dynamics. Wednesday's relationship with Morticia evolves beyond simple teenage rebellion into a complex navigation of shared psychic gifts, family legacies, and the black tears phenomenon that temporarily strips Wednesday of her visions. The introduction of Grandma Hester adds fascinating tension, revealing how the matrilineal Frump power struggles against the Adams name. When Wednesday discovers that her parents have been keeping secrets about their own school days—including Gomez once possessing electrical powers and Thing's true origin—the web of family history becomes deliciously tangled.
The season masterfully balances its gothic horror elements with unexpected emotional depth. A standout "Freaky Friday" episode where Wednesday and Enid swap bodies provides both comedic relief and profound character development. Meanwhile, Agnes the invisible superfan brings a fresh perspective on Wednesday's world, challenging our protagonist to examine how she treats those who admire her. Even the Hyde mythology expands in surprising directions, forcing us to question who the real monsters are.
By the finale, as Wednesday races to save her friends while discovering the shocking truth about Thing's identity, the series proves it has evolved beyond its initial concept into something richer and more haunting. Whether you're drawn to the supernatural mysteries, the complex character relationships, or the darkly comic moments that punctuate the season, Wednesday's sophomore outing demonstrates that this peculiar family's stories have only begun to unfold. Don't miss the stunning transformation that closes the season—it will leave you breathless for what comes next.
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all right. Season two of wednesday is out. The last four episodes are out. Uh, honestly, I watched the last four like as soon as they dropped, but I was giving a callie some time to get prepared and I guess if she jumps on then great. But uh, kug, I'm glad that you're back on for season two. But before we get into season two, let's recap season one real quick.
Speaker 1:So previously in season one, wednesday is expelled from her regular high school and enrolled in Nevermore Academy, a school for outcasts, where she began to experience psychic visions. She meets her roommate Enid, a rival, bianca, other students like Eugene, rowan and Xavier, along with Principal Weems and Miss Thornhill. Wednesday's visions lead to her discovering a monster attacking students and an ancient prophecy suggests that she would destroy the school. Our principal weems is revealed to be a ship shifter who covered up rowan's death, and wednesday uncovers the secret to a nightshade society and learns about joseph crackstone, the founder of jericho who persecuted outcasts, and her ancestor, good Goody Adams. Wednesday investigates the monster's lair files, clues about the victim's missing body parts and the suspect's Xavier order. The raven dance takes place and Eugene is attacked by the monster. Wednesday's father, gomez, is arrested for the murder of Garrett Gates and later revealed that Morticia killed Gates in self-defense and Gates had attempted to poison the school. Wednesday discovered that Laurel Gates faked her death and is alive. She's seeking revenge on Nevermore and realized that Miss Thornhill is Laurel Gates and the monster's master. Laurel Gates ends up killing Principal Weems and resurrecting Joseph Crackstone using the Book of Shadows and Wednesday's blood. Wednesday, with the help of Goody Adam's Spirit, enid, bianca and Eugene defeats Crackstone and Laurel Gates and Nevermore Was closed. And Wednesday makes peace With Xavier and receives a mysterious Text while Tyler reveals to me the High is in prison.
Speaker 1:That's the short version of that recap. I will say this before we really get into season two. I don't know if I'm going to say this naturally at this point, but circling back to Eugene, where I made that joke about him being like great value, value Naraku okay, not that, or at least not yet. But he's not beating the nerve Shino Arborame allegations that I made during the last time we talked about Wednesday when it comes to season 2, to where he can now control other books. But you know, outside of that, I don't think Eugene really did a whole lot in season two, like, I mean, not that significant, but he was just kind of there kind of with some characters, but now for real, let's get into season two. But of course last time we called it a review of Woe, this time we're calling it a continuation of Woe, so let's get into it.
Speaker 1:Wednesday flew to Kansas City to apprehend a serial killer known for scalping his victims. Apprehend a serial killer known for scalping his victims In the way back to Nevermore Academy. We not only see Puzzly gotten taller, but he also can't shoot lightning from his hands. Wednesday is now popular for being the savior of the school and she has a stalker watching her. Puzzly becomes Eugene's roommate, who's also gotten taller and controlled insects other than bees. Now Xavier has been pulled from Nevermore roommate, who also gotten taller and control insects of them bees. Now Xavier has been pulled from never more since he was falsely accused of murder and is now enrolled in Reichenbach Academy in Switzerland. But we know the real reason. But you know the behind-the-scenes reason why that's he's not in the show anymore. His father, vincent, also stepped down from his position, which is also how more attention has been asked by the new principal of Dork to be the chair at the Gallup Fundraising Committee after the previous chair. Now, before I continue. I like how it's Steve Buscemi that's principal of Dork, especially the part where he's like hello, fellow outcasts, you know like the meme, like hello, fellow kids. But I just wanted to mention that before I forget. Anyways, she also gets to live close by, in the same cottage that miss thornhill was residing in before being arrested last season, because you know all that's going on with killing the principal and the rest of it. He sent a painting of one of the ravens attacking people in Jericho. That was Xavier, by the way. He sent that to Wednesday manuscript at the pyre to commemorate her and her friends.
Speaker 1:Postley sneaks off to the skull tree. Inspired by the story told by Ajax, postley wants to hear the sound of the clothwork heart. A bat spooked him and he accidentally reanimated the corpse of the mad genius buried there with his lightning. He names him Slurp for a time. We're just going to call him Slurp for now.
Speaker 1:Wednesday has a vision of Enid dying and she was to blame For it. She fainted and woke up in Morticia's quarters. Morticia explains to Wednesday that the Black Tears are Due to Wednesday abusing Her clairvoyant powers, like when Uchiha exerted her shuriken eyes, similar to how what happened to Morticia's sister Ophelia. This results in her abilities being lost temporarily, like she didn't gain them back. But you know, you know she gotta like go through right channels and whatnot. Wednesday visits Mr Galpin you know the former sheriff to find him dead without his eyes and ravens flying out of his mouth, just like the last victim called Bradford. Before she could leave, the police arrest her, telling her that the two victims are connected in a string of murders by murder crows. Wednesday takes Enos' place in a driving test and hides the vehicle in order to visit Tal Galpin in prison. The stalker managed to knock out Enid and Bruno while trapping Thing in his box. While Wednesday rescues the lovebirds, agnes, the superfan, reveals herself from invisibility as the stalker testing her idol.
Speaker 1:At this point forward, I think Enid's valid distrust of Enid was kind of funny like, especially the way it seemed like oh, she's trying to replace me as Wednesday's best friend and she even did the whole WWWD thing, stealing her line and whatnot, uh, trying to kill her, which I just thought it was whole funny uh for the most part. But uh, where was that with this? I think I just kind of scrolled through my notes a little too fast, but let me get back to where I was supposed to be. Okay, I got it. So Principal Dork turns out he is manipulating Bianca into using her siren songs for his agenda, including persuading Morticia to get her mother Hester involved with the gala like a Jedi with the mind trick. I also like how the way Wednesday smiles when Grandma Hester gets involved, kind of like the way she smiles at Uncle Fester. You know, like family members, that she actually likes.
Speaker 1:Slurp ends up escaping and began eating people, including the driving instructor. The more braids he eats, the more he regenerates and gets smarter. During the camping trip, nevermore had a competition with some Boy Scouts from for the reservation of Camp Jericho for the weekend. Even after they lost, the cadets applied to get the land. Their scout master ended up getting killed by a slur. It's gaping again because the public keep bringing along with them. Like, oh well, we can't just leave him alone. You know what could happen. I'm like well, there you go After.
Speaker 1:Morticia took Goody's book from Wednesday. She believes that Goody's Adam's book is a shortcut that will lead Wednesday down a dark path, kind of like the Scarlet Witch with the Darkhold. And Wednesday challenged Morticia to blind sword fighting for she loses. By the way, ajax eventually finds out that Enid moved on from him and started dating Bruno. And when Wednesday loses the duel to Morticia, morticia saves Wednesday from being eaten by a slur. Wait, no, no, I got that backwards. Wednesday loses the duel, but she saves Morticia from being eaten by a slur my bad, who was apprehended by the corporate authorities and got sent away to Willow Hill. We learn that Thornhill got transferred to Willow Hill as Dr Fairburn's attempt to rehabilitate Tyler and almost died trying. Grandma Hester finally arrives and Uncle Fester returns. While Grandma tries to drive a wedge between Wednesday and Morticia, fester ends up being arrested and being sent to Willow Hill as part of Wednesday's plan to get some information on Lois and whatnot.
Speaker 1:Uh, shit gets crazy at Willard Hill as we learn that Lois is a secret program that kept deceased quote, unquote outcasts as living experiments. And the avian behind the crow attacks well, the raven, whatever you want to call it Crow, raven, whatnot. That was Dr Fairburn's assistant Judy, who's also the daughter of Augustus Stoneheart, who started the whole Lois program and whatnot, and who's really pulled the strings at Woodhill. Her plan was to make normies into outcasts. You know like trying to implant their abilities into normies, outcasts. You know like trying to implant their abilities into normies, kind of like a whole compound V type shit. Thornhill tried to save Tyler in the midst of the chaos but it backfired and she ends up getting killed by him. Tyler escapes after almost killing Wednesday. Slurp kills Dr Fairburn, then he kills Thornhurst who he was familiar with, calling him an old friend, who turns out to be his mentor. But I'll explain that in a bit.
Speaker 1:After the chaos at Willow Hill, wednesday awoke from her coma to see Principal Weems who not only became Wednesday's new spirit guide but turns out that Weems is Wednesday's 13th cousin, like you know, twice removed, so like distant relative. And it's kind of funny with Weems and Morticia having their rivalry it makes it funny, and more tension having their rivalry, that makes it funny. She also had the displeasure of being treated like a disgrace to Nevermore because Weems hired the woman that ended up murdering her. I love that. Not only did the series find a way to bring Weems back, but it's like Agatha Harkness guiding Billy Maximoff if you've seen Agatha all along. It's like Agatha Harkness guiding Billy Maximoff if you've seen Agatha all along.
Speaker 1:Puzzley and Gomez search for Slurp who may know patient 1938. Puzzley finds Slurp, lets him escape and Gomez knows that Slurp escaped. And we also learn that Gomez knows that Slurp is actually Isaac Knight, that genius, that mad genius that died. I'll explain that in a bit. Uh, slurp, excuse me. Isaac visits Judy, another person that the zombie was familiar with, and Wednesday and the Nightshades make plans To take on Tyler, with Wednesday, planning to control him like Thornhill did. Patient 1938 finds Morticia plans to take on Tyler, with Wednesday planning to control him like Thornhill did.
Speaker 1:Patient 1938 finds Morticia, who recognized her as Francois, an old classmate and Tyler's mother. The plot keeps thickening as things keep going along. Wednesday's plan ultimately failed when Francois appeared and defended Tyler, and Wednesday was almost killed if it wasn't for Matisha arriving on time. The two hides end up fleeing afterwards and after practicing her ballet alone, enid certainly suddenly started turning to a werewolf, but it wasn't a full moon Interesting. Now here's the funniest part about the whole season how Wednesday and Enid have a freaky Friday and Wednesday broke the Raven's gaze at Rosalie Rotwood's grave in an attempt to temporarily have a vision, quote-unquote, advised by Grandma Hester. Her relationship becomes more strained as Enid quote unquote caught Bruno cheating on her and dumped him. Meanwhile, wednesday quote unquote learns about how she really feels about Enid with her writings and what not, and lashed out in a fast and vibrant way while yelling at and upsetting Agnes. Later, isaac Knight turns out to be Tyler's uncle and Francois' brother. Morticia becomes aware that Weems is Wednesday's new spirit guide, being able to see her and whatnot. Isaac tries to help Francois and Tyler by removing their hide nature, but was stopped by Wednesday, enid and Agnes.
Speaker 1:We find out that 15 years ago it was Dort who gave Gideon, gabrielle's ex-husband, bianca's father-in-law, former father-in-law the idea of the morning song Cold Scam. And after Gideon gets arrested, dora assumes his own position of essentially being a pimp to the Sirens. Enid's fate has been changed, but now an Atoms is foretold to die, one of the members of the Atoms. Meanwhile, enid must now worry about becoming an Alpha, since they'll eventually transform permanently and be hunted by other werewolves for self-policing purposes. Dort tricks Hester into giving him her entire fortune by having Bianca hypnotize her. Francois is dying, so Tyler and Isaac tries to get her some help.
Speaker 1:Wednesday, the dudes that Bianca had been helping door and while Bianca tried wiping her memory, agnes ited and was able to retell the truth to Wednesday. By the way, I dare say Agnes is like the MVP of the season because she's been very helpful to Wednesday, even though Wednesday treated her like shit. Honestly, let me just go ahead and take a break and say that Wednesday reminds me of Alice Russo from Wizards of Wastewood, who plays to a sense where her friendship with Harper is like. At first you think like okay, they're best friends, they're like practically sisters, right, but Alex like uses Harper and Harper just glades over and whatnot. It just feels like a very one-sided, toxic relationship. And at first you think it was like the case with Wednesday and Enid. But it was definitely the case with Agnes, where it just seemed like Wednesday was just treating her like shit, even though Agnes was trying to help her or whatnot, because she's a fan. But you know what they say you treat them like a celebrity and they'll treat you like a fan. So so yeah, but uh, keeping it going, dort summons bianca, who's surprised to see uh, gideon there. Gideon wanted to get paid and get out of the whole pimping business, but dort decided to fire him literally by killing him with fire and then, at the gala wednesday, helped Bianca rescue Gabrielle and secure the anti-siren trinket that Dort was holding on that blocked the siren song so that Bianca can siren song Dort into a confession. He tried to hold Bianca hostage and escape, but Ajax surprised him with his gorgon stoning and a chandelier fell on door petrified body, effectively killing him. Meanwhile, puzzly was out about getting kidnapped by Isaac.
Speaker 1:We learned that Isaac's experiment all those years ago was to rid Francois of her heightened nature, but by sacrificing his own roommate, gomez, who had electric powers at the time. Morticia arrived to try to save Gomez by sabotaging the machinery. Gomez lost his powers that night and once again Morticia indirectly killed him. Bruno leaves Nevermore with Sophia, the other girl that he was cheating on Enid with. During Wednesday's final confrontation of the season, it's revealed that Isaac is missing a right hand and Thing happened to be that missing right hand. Morticia cut his hand off and kept Thing as a companion all those years ago. Francois tricks Tyler into having his hive form removed, but claiming that it's too late for her but not too late for him, francois ends up killing herself. By the way, tyler's still a high agent.
Speaker 1:That Wednesday intervened in the Addams family for Isaac. Thing ends up killing. Wednesday intervened and the Addams Family For Isaac. Thing ends up killing Isaac. You know the whole Talk. No juju thing, fight it thing, fight it. And then Thing was trying to take over. Fighting Isaac, thing ends up killing Isaac, ripping himself off his arm.
Speaker 1:Enid Riff, permanent transformation to save wednesday um, being buried alive. And now she's on the run. Uh, miss capri, the music teacher, offered tyler refuge among the hides because her father was a high, so she sympathized. And, crazy enough, like she's a werewolf too. So it's like is he like a wolf? Like a high half high half werewolf? And wednesday teams up with uncle fester to find enid. Also, grandma has their nose where ophelia is.
Speaker 1:That's pretty much the breakdown of season two. It continues the technique of actors looking directly at the fourth wall when conversing with each other, because I thought that was a whole therapy thing, but I guess that's just a thing in this show now and the series is evolving as a supernatural murder mystery drama with plot lines that weave together yet distract the viewer in a good way, because, once again, if I know who the fucking killer is, it's not a good mystery. Like at this point, I'm waiting for the protagonist to know who the killer is like. I shouldn't know who the killer is before the protagonist. I want to know. At the same time I can feel like this you know what I'm saying, so I'm kind of like Wednesday in that aspect. But uh, I went through a lot of shit, but that was pretty much all my notes. How you feeling about season two of Wednesday?
Speaker 2:You went through the whole thing. I thought we was going to take breaks.
Speaker 1:Nah, I just went to the zone and just thought to just go ahead and talk about everything are you good?
Speaker 2:alright, so you pretty much covered the whole story thing, but let me start off into this one, since you took a break to talk about this. Um, I think misjudging things as far as about how Wednesday treats her girls, her friends per se, wednesday is one of those ones that does not hide how she really is. She feels from the very beginning I don't want to make friends. If you choose to continue to be with me, I'm just going to use you to as much as I see fit and as long as you're useful to me I'll keep you around. If you're not useful to me, then I'll leave and I'll ditch you. She's very straightforward about this. It's one of those ones like if people tell you who they are, believe them, type of thing like this, there's no difference into that. That's just really what it is now. As far as about wednesday treating her like crap, look, the thing about it is that wednesday was already seeing ahead of time that she was constantly trying to become more and more like her. Wednesday is not greater communication. She says this herself. Other people say this. She's like I know I'm not greater communication, I'm not going to get better at it, it just is what it is. If you continue to be around me, you're dealing with who I am.
Speaker 2:The thing about it is Wednesday eventually broke because old girl raided her closet, put on a wig and tried to become a copy of her, which for Wednesday, that's an absolute no. There is no other Wednesday. She is the one and only one. She likes being the one and only one To her, while this girl thinks she's doing it as a form of sign of respect and endearment to Wednesday. It is the most disrespectful thing that you can do. To be respectful for Wednesday is be yourself. If Wednesday chooses to keep you around because you're you, that is your ultimate praise. But you trying to force yourself to be Wednesday is absolutely disrespectful to her. That's one of those things that's like no, I don't want a copy of me. I was respecting you for who you were and I'm losing my disrespect. I'm losing my respect. I'm having more disrespect because you're trying to become me instead of being yourself. I don't want that.
Speaker 1:That reminds me of somebody what.
Speaker 2:But that's the thing. Wednesday is not a communicator, she's not going to help you. I want to make sure I had a chance To mention my points into it Because I was like I do understand Wednesday's point of view. Yes, granted, wednesday has said of view. Yes, granted, wednesday has said it better Absolutely 110%. Is that Wednesday's style? No, it's Wednesday. Everyone says it, you're insufferable. And to her that is a compliment. I want to be insufferable. I want to watch other people's misery. That's just what I want to do. That is who I am. So I mean, that's just how my viewpoint is into that one. But if I'm going to go through real quick, everything first off is saying what's up, kali.
Speaker 3:Yo, I'm here my bad.
Speaker 2:I know he's about to get his way. Introduce you, welcome man. Um, I'm just go ahead and run through mine real quick because I know you would throw all of your notes. But yeah, just that, we can't like back and forth on today's. Starting from the beginning, into it, I want to say I was absolutely grotesquely against gomez in season one and I still am. That's the big thing. Into it. Season two, gomez is significantly better.
Speaker 2:Okay, one of my favorite moments was when they went to jericho, that when they went to their own the pilgrimage place, when they tried to do they tried to switch things up and be like oh, you know the day of the dead and we're all about authenticity. He's like uh-huh. And then he started speaking Spanish to us Can you please direct me to where the churros are at? And she just looked dumbfounded. He was like uh-huh, let's vamos, adios. And I'm sitting there like, yes, you're all about authenticity. No, you're all about authenticity. No, you're all about cultural appropriation. That's exactly what you are. You are marketing and I'm glad to have an opportunity of mentioning this because there's people that need to know this.
Speaker 2:Okay, in hispanic culture, the day of the dead is one of the most revered and respected holidays. For them, it is not a thing you market. If you actually pay attention to how they do things, you cannot buy day of the day stuff on the night of the day of the day. That moment is time that you spend with your ancestors, that you spend with your family. That is not the time to go shopping. That's not the time to go oh, I want to go ahead and go sell this item here. I want to make these carnival games. No, that is respected time with your family. The fact that they tried to market this thing, to make it a theme park, a carnival, was the most disrespectful things that you ever can do, because that's not what that holiday is about.
Speaker 2:So I'm so happy, like Gomez was straight up into that. When you look this, he's like uh-huh, yeah, authenticity, yeah, I'll just straight up disrespectful is what the hell y'all? Just rude. You don't do stuff like that literally in Hispanic culture, as far as the day-to-day, it's the same thing with I guess it's making a Christian reference here, with Jesus when they had was selling stuff in the church. Remember when it said Jesus was angry and he started flipping tables and doing all type of stuff? That was the absolute disrespect. That's exactly about the same level of disrespect. It is for the day of the dead. You don't do stuff like that. They shut down shops. Shops are not open. You are not supposed to be open because you're supposed to be with your family. You're not supposed to be selling anything because you're supposed to be with your family. You're sending off lanterns. You're supposed to make that yourselves. If you do have to wind up buying it, you buy it before you don't buy it at the time. You're supposed to be with your family.
Speaker 1:Everything is shut down because it's dedicated family time.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry I had to get that little rant out.
Speaker 2:I'll get it Because, yeah, it was one of those ones that I was so happy that they had a chance to stand up into that one. I also really liked Camp Jericho. You know that. Call back to adam's family values, right, like, oh, adam's family, I was doing values, I still. I, we still have those. My family still have those on dvd. Um, love the movies. We watch them like every halloween, along with, uh, nightmare before christmas just a little family tradition. We just go ahead and watch them just because. So, having a camp jericho coming back and actually having the set of camp jericho from adam's family values was super awesome. I was super excited about that. So I was like, yes, absolutely enjoyed this. Um, I also want to mention as well I do agree with you about the.
Speaker 2:When you get to, when you know who the villain is, you're just kind of waiting on it. I will say the um, the asylum director, the asylum like pet, the old director's daughter, being the person controlling the ravens. That was a bit of a surprise to me. Okay, you got me on that. That's a good shot. I was um, I wasn't expecting that. I respect that one to it, but going into the whole principle is one of those ones that when me and my wife I've watched movies before, there's a thing that she always talks to me about that she absolutely hates is when a lot of shows and a lot of movies they cast specific people who always do the same role. And it's not these actor and actresses fault, it's not their fault, you know, they do the role so well, yeah, typecast like, they do it so well that it's like, if there's, if you write in a particular person in the script, oh, you're going to, you automatically think of that person. So you hire them. Well, guess what? The viewers, as soon as they see this person that's the first thing I'm going to think about is okay, is this person going to be this type of role? And then boom, like two episodes in. Or like, if you're watching a movie, 15 minutes in, yeah, yeah, you're the villain. Like it becomes so obvious because you always hire the same people for that role and it's like first off, you can hire the person, give them a chance, write it up differently. And if you are still going to hire them, yeah, write it up differently. But otherwise, why not hire somebody different? Why not give somebody else an opportunity? Don't make it so obvious to us like that's where it's so frustrating at, because it's like, why would you do this? It's so frustrating, so that's just kind of like.
Speaker 2:My little viewpoint into that one is that when the new principal he plays those type of roles, he's the backstabber. You can see in his filmography that he, he does those type of roles, he's the backstabber. You can see in his filmography that he does those type of roles and again, it's not his fault into it. He does a great job into those roles. But it's one of those ones that, yeah, that's kind of unfair as you typecast them. And then it's unfair to us when we're watching a murder mystery and we know who the murderer is at the beginning, it's like kind of, and we know who the murderer is at the beginning, it's like I kind of feel like they were stupid or something like that. I don't know, this is me personally. This is me personally after that.
Speaker 1:That was right there. Pugliati, Kelly, would you rank the way in on season two right now?
Speaker 3:Yeah, sure, so I only just freshly watched it because I had to get caught up with everything. This season was really really good. I like the fact that they built on everything that happened before. I thought it was interesting that they did actually bring Tyler back into it the hide and I was not expecting for them to be kind of like the big bad but to also bring in his mom.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry but real quick, I still don't like the design for the hide. I like those big bug, big bug eyes.
Speaker 3:It's so goofy it is so goofy.
Speaker 2:Hold on, let me ask you this Did y'all hate Grimwald in Beowulf? Because it's the same design, are you?
Speaker 3:talking about Grendel.
Speaker 2:Grendel yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I hated that too I don't remember watching Beowulf, so I can't say.
Speaker 2:It's pretty much the exact same design, except the only difference is Grendel looks even more disgusting.
Speaker 1:I remember promo for Beowulf, but I didn't actually watch the movie.
Speaker 2:Okay, it's really good, but Angelina Jolie killed it as the witch. Anyway, it's pretty much the same design, but it is supposed to be that. Remember what a hide is. It is, I think, the best version of the body when I see it. Yeah, but the best version of a hide that people you'll probably think of is going to be from league of extraordinary gentlemen um where jekyll and hyde, because his high version was pretty much just like a hulk.
Speaker 2:He he was. That's pretty much what he was. He's just a bigger, beefier version of himself. But in this particular iteration, a hide is supposed to be a monstrosity, a monstrous version of yourself. It is supposed to be a grotesque, uh, disgusting being. It's supposed to be like a wendigo, like in action. That was what they based it on was the wendigos from Hispanic culture. So that's the reason why Because keep in mind, with Adam's family, remember Adam's family itself the Adams history is all Hispanic, both lineages. So whenever they go for any type of designs for these things, everything is based on Hispanic culture. So that's the reason why the Hyatt is designed the way it is. It's just a mirror image of a Wendigo, and I'll let you go back, my bad.
Speaker 3:It's all right. Yeah, I do want to mention when you were talking about Luis Guzman being Gomez. I like the fact that they do actually lean in more to the Hispanic culture Because, like you said, that's the background His name is Gomez, jenna Ortega is playing Wednesday Adams. I mean, it's just the way that works out, and I do also enjoy the fact that they even fleshed out more of Morticia and Gomez's relationship, like the fact that they have even more secrets, because I feel like everything kind of heavily focused more on Wednesday and her mom in the first one. So it's right, I mean it's, it's all right. I mean then they still did the exact same thing. I'm glad that they brought back Gwendolyn Christie to be Weems again, because I really enjoy her Gwendolyn Christie to be Weems again because I really enjoy her.
Speaker 3:She did really really well and I remember reading something too that she really enjoyed having that role. Gwendolyn Christie because you know she's a really tall woman, usually presents more masculine and they said she said in an interview that she enjoyed the role because it allowed her to dress more feminine and be more like herself. So I thought that was really nice because, I mean, a lot of us know us at excuse me, a lot of us know her as brienne of tarth, obviously for game of thrones or captain phasma from star wars or um or lucifer in the sandman netflix series.
Speaker 2:So that's a little bit more different. I have an interesting Sandman. My wife watched it. Okay, yeah, that does seem familiar.
Speaker 3:I'm only halfway through that second season, but I'm still watching that, but anyway.
Speaker 1:You know Lewis Goodman was growing on me. You know like at first you were thinking like, okay, what was up with the casting, right.
Speaker 1:But then again when you go back in time, like the very old cartoon version one, and you know like, this big round portly version of Gomez, like you're not used to, like you're so used to Raul Julia or like Orlando doing it to where I'm like you kind of forget that originally Gomez looked like that and I'm like thinking you know what it kind of makes sense for him to be good on Gomez.
Speaker 2:Now, not only that, but it also kind of goes to show that, like I said before, where it's like he pulled the hot goth baddie just by being himself pretty much, yeah, and I think my biggest thing is the reason I was so frustrated in the season one was because he was so underutilized that it seemed pointless and I was like, why would you do this? And I was like it just seemed horrible. I was like you're right, you do this, it just seemed horrible. You're right as far as the visualization. I had no issue into that because I love the animated series.
Speaker 3:A lot of people were saying too that they really enjoyed they like Louis Guzman as Gomez by himself, and then Catherine Zeta-Jones as Morticia, but a lot of people had trouble with. They felt like they had no chemistry together. I do feel like that is a little bit forced. They don't engage with each other. But I'm also spoiled by Raul, julie and Angelica Houston from the Adam's Family Values movies as well.
Speaker 1:You throw a kiss in the hand and whatnot. Like it really Always In the anime series.
Speaker 2:That what gomez did, too. Gomez was always so, every single time. Yeah, he's like. He says my ketamia in this show. If it does, my god, it's unnatural, yeah it feels unnatural type of thing, and I'm like even it's not so much his voice or anything like that, it's just it's not natural. It doesn't feel. Yeah, oh, he's really infatuated with morticia, type of thing.
Speaker 3:It's like they did better with this season because they were flushing things out together, um and more of the like, I said, the secrets that they had of. As far as isaac knight and bro, I gotta say that reveal with thing being isaac knight's hand blew my mind and I was like what? And then you see wednesday's like the gears are turning in her head and she does the freaking anagram of like oh my god, the fact that gomez had electric powers, but that experiment fried his powers.
Speaker 3:I was like bro and he took them makes so much sense and not to mention I mean, I like the fact, though, that they got back at grandma ma, because she's like why would you want to be him? He's a fucking normie. And it's like, um, actually he had lightning powers, but an awful friend of his stole them.
Speaker 1:So when she temporarily, uh, didn't have her powers. I'm like well, I don't have powers. Did that make me any less of an outcast grandma?
Speaker 2:oh no baby, no, I'm gonna tell you this right now, when you have kids because me, I don't know if cali, I don't know if you, if you have to go through this and I hope you don't but that's a normal grandparent thing. Grandparents, all the time will have something to say about their kids and their kids spouses, but once it comes to their grandbabies, their grandbabies can never do no wrong. No, the crazy part is.
Speaker 1:The crazy part is how Wednesday at Pro's they're talking about hey, I want to get into the family business because I know that makes my mom feel some type of way about it. And then grandma was like oh, I thought you would never ask. You said you know you may have the last name.
Speaker 2:Adams. I thought you would never ask. He said you know you may have the last name, adams, but you're a frump on the inside. I was like Jesus God. That is a grandparents thing right there. They love to see the pride of themselves and their grandkids Not their kids.
Speaker 3:Don't tell your mama, I gave you this money. But yeah, even more, though she was still only more fond of Wednesday Because she was talking Grandma, was talking shit about Pugsley and that pisses me off too. He's a little bit I'm not going to say I was going to say slow he's a little bit different. I feel like he doesn't fit Especially into the family.
Speaker 1:It's like Uncle.
Speaker 3:Fester. He's like the bit different. I feel like he doesn't fit especially into the family. Yeah, it's like Uncle Fester. He's like the Uncle Fester.
Speaker 2:He doesn't exactly fit in. He's supposed to be. That's actually how Pugsley's always been written, even from old school Addams Family, Even just like a little fun thing. I don't know if y'all have ever seen the old black and white monsters, the family monster show. I can't remember exactly what it's called. You talking about the monsters, yeah, the monsters, yeah. So Wednesday is actually based off of that little girl.
Speaker 1:It's crazy how he forgot the title, but like the fact that it was Monsters and it was the end.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because it's with a U. That's what got me. It's Monsters, because their last name is Monster, but it's M-U-N-S-T-E-R.
Speaker 1:I didn't know. I don't even remember that much. No, you're good.
Speaker 2:I watched a lot of old school stuff with my mom but I used to love that show. But yeah, wednesday Addams is based on that little girl because of her extreme intelligence and just dark demeanor and stuff like that, dark demeanor and stuff like that. So yeah, super precocious. But the thing about it is that she also had a brother. That was kind of slow, but the thing about it is that the brother was like near invincible about anything. The little sister could do anything she wanted to him and he always bounced back and it was like just pretty normal type of thing. It's pretty much based on the same series, just a little bit different. But that that girl and wednesday are almost a damn near carbon copy, same as the brother.
Speaker 2:And so pugsley was made to be. I mean, even if you wanted to try to say autistic, maybe not necessarily that, but just kind of somewhat near in the spectrum, because pugsley doesn't always catch up onto things like that, but just kind of somewhat near in the spectrum, because pugsley doesn't always catch up onto things like that. But also, keep in mind, when it comes to the adams family, to be an outcast, to be unnormal, is normal. That's just what it's supposed to be type of thing. So he fits that bill of not the standard boy, the, and also the standard, like the standard, um, what's what's the word for it's? Uh, skepticism, type of what? The stereotype, the stereotype, that's what. It's the standard stereotype.
Speaker 1:Shouldn't he be considered a prime example of an outcast if he's an outcast among outcasts?
Speaker 2:exactly that's the thing about the Adams, because, remember, everybody says the same thing and everyone Adams is around, something crazy happens. It's like the Adams family are the outcast amongst outcasts, they are the most outcasts, and that's how they are, even in the series. That's why the extended family is all the same way, cousin it. He has his own adventures too of going through so many different things, you know what I kind of hope he shows up at some point.
Speaker 3:I want to know where Cousin it is.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm like, now that you mention it, where is he at?
Speaker 2:Because, Cousin, it was teased in the end of season one so it was like, oh no, we might see some of the extended family a little bit more more in season two, and then we don't. I'm like that's kind of hurtful.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we really only got to see more, got to see Grandma Mon, that was about it, I mean crazy enough.
Speaker 1:We got to see a little bit more blur to this season. Just a little bit more.
Speaker 3:And more Fester, More Fester too.
Speaker 1:I mean he's putting more of a more pivotal role in this one. So I want to say like he was Bester did yeah, he played more of a role in this one, like he kind of popped up in season one but he was like more important in season two. So I was like he was like keystone in this one.
Speaker 3:Can we talk about the fact that Christopher Lloyd had a freaking cameo in there? I love that so much yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh, I almost missed the Lady Gaga cameo too.
Speaker 2:Oh man, I love man. That's why season two was one of those ones. The writing got better. There's still some shaky moments into it. But, yeah, there's so many callbacks To Adam's Family, adam's Family values, that it's like, okay, I do feel like whoever Was working on writing this time, you know the Adam's Family Like how we america's baby golf family and so just absolutely look as crazy as.
Speaker 2:This is the craziest thing about the two to say that, because there's still so much controversy even right now, because wednesday season two has tons of promotional advertisement. But right now, um, aside from all the normal issues we're dealing with in america today, one of the other things about it is just that, as much as wednesday is being promoted, it is also being heavily, heavily attacked, um, by a lot of religious societies because they're like this is promotion of demons and demon worship and all this type of stuff. And the funny thing about it is this the funniest thing about it is wednesday.
Speaker 2:The funniest thing about it, wednesday is no, even season two is no different from the original Addams Family shows, from the original Addams Family movies and from the animated Addams Family movies, and it's one of those ones of did you not watch those? This is nothing new. Yeah, because they're trying to say, oh, this is not the Addams Family're trying to say, oh, this is not the Adams family that we grew up on okay you're right, it's not, but not in the way that you're saying it.
Speaker 2:We're saying it as it could have been darker, it could have been more grotesque, it could have been more gruesome. You're saying it's way too much. No, hold on a second. You didn't watch Adams family.
Speaker 1:I mean, it's like it was kind of there the whole time, the fact that we have cousins, the fact that we have things, the fact that we have words, like it was kind of there the whole time. If anything, wednesday kind of expanded upon it to where the supernatural just plain out exists in this world.
Speaker 2:Exactly, and then considering the fact that, like almost every, like literally every Adam's family member is technically a psychopath or a killer.
Speaker 1:Like realistically.
Speaker 3:No.
Speaker 2:I like to eat All types of animals.
Speaker 1:No, it's funny because I was saying like you missed this where, like once again, morticia indirectly kills a man in the season, yep.
Speaker 2:I will say that's the only thing that frustrated me for season two is the fact that it's more so of those the biggest plots is, oh, it's Gomez and Morticia's fault. And now Wednesday's having to fix it or suffer for it, type of thing, and I'm sitting here like does it always have to be their fault? I'm just curious, does it always have to be their fault? Like, I'm just curious, like does it always have to be their fault? Like they always say, whenever an Addams is nearby, tragedy is not far behind.
Speaker 1:She's paying for the sins of the previous generation.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's pretty much what she wants anyway Solving murder mysteries, all types of stuff, but yeah. So like literally every person is Wednesday, loves going. It's pretty much Dexter. She loves going after psychopaths and killers and bringing them to justice.
Speaker 1:Her own way. That reminds me Another person that was kind of surprised I was in this one Buddy Haley Joel Osment as the scalper. Yeah, yeah, that was funny, haley.
Speaker 3:Joel Osment as the scalper.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that was funny, the way Thing just burst out that door, just the fight, and that's well, you know behind the scenes he actually like doing Haley's kind of doing that to himself because you know acting, but it's kind of like method acting. You just gotta wrestle with what you're saying. But I just thought it was kind of funny when you know the behind-the-scenes method behind that. But I just thought that whole shit was kind of funny to where Wednesday was just taking down serial killers and whatnot for fun, before she goes back to Nevermore. And speaking of Nevermore, let's talk about the trio, because now that it's not just Wednesday Enid, it is now Wednesday Enid and Agnes and sometimes Bianca.
Speaker 1:But uh, Agnes, I dare say she was carrying this season Because, like Wednesday probably wouldn't have gotten very far, maybe, possibly. But Agnes was really helpful in a lot of ways, wearing visibility, being able to be Wednesday's spy to get information and whatnot. And like you said earlier, you're right, like Wednesday's going to be Wednesday. I kind of glossed over that part. I was going to mention it but like I don't know why I didn't mention it. But it is kind of wild if, out of context, it would look like a one sided toxic relationship that Wednesday having with Enid and Agnes. But Wednesday is very upfront about who she is, so it's kind of a fair game that you get what it's like.
Speaker 2:oh it's like her speech at Camp Jericho when they had the painting reveal and she was like, put up that speech, being like, oh, this is so awesome, which is what some dumb minded people would say.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like like put up that speech, being like, oh, this is so awesome, which is what some dumb-minded people was yeah, like bro, I love how she got fucking heated at that uh commemoration where they revealed the pain and she was all heroic and what nice. And you just tell on jenna's face that she was like fucking fuming. I was like, look here, no, no, no, what happened is like she, she playing it cool, but uh, you don't understand that she is fuming right now it's a absolute shout out to her take on to that she.
Speaker 2:She sold that role like that part. Right there was. I felt. I felt the frustration in her face. I was like, oh yeah it's like.
Speaker 1:It's like the first time you see like color on her skin, because you know, you know how she's like normally half cadaver Looking, but like when she gets mad, it's like, oh, it's like a little red and it's like you can't see like a little color In her skin. Nah, she's pissed.
Speaker 2:You talk about the skin. I just want to quickly mention that grandma Ma's recipe Of like having the best skin complexion that gives them their flawless skin complexion is ash, and you try to figure out which ash is this from. Does it really matter, dear?
Speaker 1:Oh Lord, it's like this one episode of Rick and Morty that I just watched. I'm going to continue the Rick and Morty review, but that's for another time. Yeah, wednesday's going to continue the Rick and Morty review, but that's for another time. But uh, yeah, like Wednesday's going to be Wednesday, but uh, I just think it's kind of funny how not only with her dynamic with Agnes, to a point where Agnes is like you know what, it's kind of not worth imitating Wednesday. I just, you know, like Enid said, be your own psycho. So she decided to just drop all that and whatnot, eventually started dressing. Like I just like the way she got her, like how much hair she has once she takes the braids out. I'm like, okay, yeah, you know, granted, it was like the French braid for pretty long. But like I'm just saying, like you know, granted, it was like the Prince break for pretty long. But like I'm just saying like, okay, okay, see what the prince would say here. Like I don't like that, I don't like that.
Speaker 2:Classic woman's transformation. I know how to fix it. I know how to get rid of your nerdy look. Takes off glasses, undoes, braids.
Speaker 1:Like, uh, what was the princess diary with Anne Hathaway, where, like, all you gotta do is just take off the glasses? Yep, you're good, you've had a lot of beauty all along.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but uh, what else? Oh, enid, like first of all, how she tried to like make sure that she's not being replaced by Agnes, but try to make sure that she's not being replaced by Agnes. But I think one of the funniest unintentional scenes for me. It wasn't meant to be funny but it was kind of funny to me, just the way Emma Myers delivered this line when Agnes was formulating a plan to infiltrate Willow Hill and whatnot and Eno's like alright, so what's my part of the plan? And wednesday, andrews was looking at each other like, uh, you want to be included? And then, well, they, they said it with their um eye content, not words. But uh, then eno was like, do you even want to be my friend anymore? I was was like whoa, hold on, why are you going that far? Like Wednesday said to herself like that wasn't even in question and it was like all right, you're on the lookout. I was like really, like I thought I was going to get something mission critical, you are okay. Like I need somebody to watch out for me because something happens. That's mission critical.
Speaker 1:But it's kind of crazy how Enid went from Not really being into the whole murder mystery Side of their relationship To. Oh well, you know, after the arrested couple of guys, I'm part of the team. Now Just let me know when you need a case. It don't even have to be a case. Balance with Crossing Mother. I've been there too.
Speaker 2:Aina just wants to be included. She loves popularity.
Speaker 1:Speaking of which, Callie, how do you feel about the Freaky Friday episode?
Speaker 3:I was caught off guard in the beginning of the episode and I was like, okay, what the fuck is happening? Why is Wednesday dancing around to Boombayah by Blackpink? I was like she doesn't like K-pop, what the fuck is happening. But I really enjoyed the episode because I had a feeling it was going to be one of those um, learn what the other one is dealing with. And not to mention, I feel like um, wednesday and enid's body did her a solid with blowing off. Uh, what was his name? Uh, the other werewolf guy, the one that was speaking into Golug and stuff like that to his girlfriend.
Speaker 2:I thought something was up with that guy Bruno. No, no, that's right, it was Bruno.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, screw that guy. He was rude and being mean to Enid. I thought that was really good. And then also Enid pretending to be like regular Wednesday. I'm like, no, there's no way she can pull this off. And of course, the stalker was able to understand what the heck was going on. I do agree, she was really, really OP with a lot of this Her being able to turn invisible and do so much and like save people. Oh yeah, I'm glad that they ended up telling her to kind of um, to do her own thing and become her own person because I feel like that was a lot of the biggest thing that was a big benefit for her was the ability to choose, uh, her invisibility.
Speaker 2:Because if you pay attention, when she when uh, wednesday was finally, when they first started like confronting her into it, when wednesday, was going into the yago tower immediately like she started like doing the phantom step, but she would disappear and then reappear, disappear, reappear, but she would disappear with just the only the mask being um present, and then boom, she could disappear, the mask also. So it's like she has the ability to choose what she can make disappear, if she's holding it or not, and I think that's really OP in itself, because you don't see that in a lot of invisibility, even with invisible woman shit and like Marvel, that's one thing that takes a lot of concentration.
Speaker 1:I also like how, when Fester visited and he caught Agnes spying on him you can't sneak up on me, kid. In fact you probably need to work on your sneaking, like you know, kind of walk between the seams of the floor so you know it'd be quieter because you know it's kind of too loud when you're sneaking.
Speaker 3:Well, we love continuity, because she learned that right after.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she did, and still wound up getting caught by the Hyatt anyway.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but he probably, if I had to guess they probably have enhanced sense of smell or something like that. That might have also been what it was.
Speaker 1:That's quite intense. I can still see you.
Speaker 2:Look, we understand Hyatt's are broken and because they're broken they have a short lifespan. That's just pretty much what it is. They're the most powerful of outcasts and because of that they have the shortest lifespan and have to have a master, unless they're female, and it's slightly different. Oh, hold on, I want to mention this, uh, because we probably was going to come to a little bit later, but I really want to mention this. That fight between him and his mom right, she was whooping his ass like oh my god, she was whooping his ass.
Speaker 2:I was thinking I'm like, okay, it's not necessarily gonna be a fair fight per se, but I didn't think it was gonna be one-sided like that one. There's one of those ones like I'm you could tell just like I'm not trying to kill you, I'm like you're not. You broke his arm twice in the fight. You tossed him out of the tower onto a building. You bit his back. The bite mark was still there at the end of the series. You can see the bruises all over his face. That didn't heal and he still had the bite mark in his back. That was like hold on.
Speaker 1:Let me still go back real quick before I forget how the freaky Friday episode where, with all things being said, what, uh, what going on it was a fun episode. Uh, I thought it was a fun episode, but I just want to applaud how. Not only did we get this side of Wednesday through Enid that we thought whoa hold on, this is kind of weird. She's awfully happy. One of them's like come in guys. I was like whoa, what's going on?
Speaker 3:She was not good at trying to act like she was Wednesday, it was just so funny. She's like okay, yeah, we got to keep our cool. And then she goes hi guys, oh my gosh, you look so cute, I love your dress. Blah, blah, blah. And oh my gosh you look so cute.
Speaker 1:I love your dress blah, blah, blah. And it's like Enid. I just love how Enid made Wednesday look so animated in this episode to where it was like you see a whole lot more emotional range from her. So it's like I applaud Jenna Ortega for that. You know, trying to act like Enid in a sense. But I applaud Emma Myers even more for trying to act like Enid in a sense. But I applaud Emma Myers even more for trying to stick to the whole Wednesday personality, to where she's just looking, like she's always looking at you, like with her, like her head tilted down just staring daggers at you oh yeah, pulling the Kubrick stare yeah, I was like bro with the eye shadow you stare.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was like bro, like with the ice. Yeah, I don't know rainbow here. It's like it's, you can see, like a rainbow gone with that look, you could tell.
Speaker 2:You could tell something that they wished for because they were. You could tell they was hoping for an episode like this, to be able to act like each other type of thing. It's like just one time I don't want to act like wednesday, I want to act like the bubbly extra girl and got the opportunity to now and I will say she sold that um color hive thing because that whole like I thought she was just joking about being allergic to color, I didn't know she was actually allergic to wow, what a laugh.
Speaker 1:That's probably something wednesday was it but uh, that's probably something Wednesday, was it? But uh, let's just. Can we talk about how okay it took three years For this season to come out and while Both the actors for Eugene and Pugly Got a growth burp Like oh my gosh, he grew.
Speaker 3:He grew over the summer and I'm like, yeah sure, three years.
Speaker 1:We'll do that like I'll. That's some crazy ass puberty that happened during the summer but, uh, I also mean he is a man. Yeah, true, but I would also like to imagine that during that three-year period, it's like imagine the writers and Jenna and Emma was like kind of bouncing ideas and they're probably thinking, oh, you know, it'd be funny. You know Freaky Fridays coming soon, like what if we did like our own Freaky Fridays? Wouldn't it be crazy if we pretended to be each other for an episode? I could see that.
Speaker 2:That probably was one of their favorite episodes man For real. I haven't seen the interviews, but I'm curious. I really think it'd be one of their favorite episodes.
Speaker 1:I was watching it a little bit, but I didn't hear them talk about that episode in particular. But I'll go back and look at it and see how they felt about it, but I imagine that's like one of their favorites.
Speaker 2:Uh, oh, I did want to mention you were saying something I was just thinking. So Kelly mentioned that she thought that she could tell it was some type of something, that maybe probably a body switch or maybe something was different. Honestly, I thought it was mind control. At first, the first thing I thought of I was like somebody's mind control the wednesday. Oh, she gonna kill them. Oh, she gonna do so much inside. Oh, it's gonna be horrible. It's gonna be horrible. Then I was like, oh wait, hold on, she's acting like enid. And I was like, oh, it's a body swap. So I was curious how he had got. Then, you know, enid winds up saying it and i'm'm like okay, so how did we get here?
Speaker 2:I want to say it's Enid's fault. I understand, enid, you didn't want to miss your dance, I get that. So you snuck out to get Wednesday. I completely understand. The thing is this Wednesday didn't break the gaze of a chord. She was forced into it. You really look at it. Enid pulled Wednesday off of the grave. Pulled Wednesday off of the grave. She snatched her off. So it's like this is your fault. You want to sit here and talk about it? Oh, it's my fault. And it's like, oh, you guys are going to die within 24 hours if you don't switch back. That's not Wednesday's fault. Wednesday, let you out of it. You included yourself and now you're mad and you're like oh, it's your fault that I died.
Speaker 3:No, it's actually your fault. If you had left me alone, like I intended, we wouldn't be here. I'm gonna pull the therapist part of therapist card on this. If wednesday had also communicated to enid what was going on, a lot of this could have been prevented. Obviously they wouldn't have made it in series.
Speaker 3:But, bro, she could have communicated what was going on so at least enid could be more aware what's going on. But of course wednesday's like I'm not going to tell her about it because I don't want to endanger her. Blah, blah, blah and it's like, yeah, that's great, but that still might end up getting her killed. Like what the fuck?
Speaker 1:hold on. I'm glad that you brought that up. I'm glad that you said that, because while I was watching this season I was like, okay, season one, clearly Winston went to see that one therapist who ended up getting killed. But in season two I was like it's giving a family therapy vibe, like this whole family needs therapy, the way they're communicating with each other and whatnot. It's almost like Morticia having like some mommy issues and all that, and that's also bleeding into Wednesday too, to where this whole sort of thing and whatnot. And it just kind of felt like dang, like a bunch of y'all need therapy. What do you think about it? Yep, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2:And the all starts with Mama Frump Just absolutely torturing her daughter because her daughter didn't want to take over the family business. Because how dare Morticia be our goth queen and actually have care and compassion for other people? How dare you? That's not Frump mentality. We don't care about other people. We don't care about these peasants. They're just eventual money because eventually they don't die, and then that brings us money in our cemetery.
Speaker 1:And you know what, Kogigasu. I am so glad you said that because, Callie, once again I'm back to you. How do you feel about Principal Dore essentially pimping out the sirens?
Speaker 3:Well, I mean I wasn't surprised because once he started to, we started to slowly learn what his role was in morning song. Like I didn't realize it was him. I mean, I completely forgot about that gideon guy and I completely forgot from you know from three years ago, why she was keeping her mom hidden in the freaking first place. But I was like, oh yeah, that's right. And so dort was the one that was putting everything up. So of course he's like I know everything that's going on with your mom. If you don't want her to be turned in or you don't want me to hurt her, then you're gonna do what I tell you to do.
Speaker 1:And the part when, when he said that and he uh took his head up like go ahead, say what I need you to say. But he knows he's gonna be like will say exactly what he needs. Aw, nisa's like, I'm just waiting for you to agree. I just like that little nod.
Speaker 3:No, I love the fact that at the end, when he actually ends up saying like you know, they get back at him and they finally turn everything on to him. At the end, at the gala that was, it was so cringe watching him tell everybody Of course they're like live reacting. Of course this is what we want and he's admitting to what he did.
Speaker 1:But I was like oh yeah.
Speaker 3:This is great. Get it, you fucking asshole, because there was the whole thing that he was trying to use against Bianca is siren songing other people and then that was his demise and he got what crushed by a fucking chandelier or some shit. Yeah, what is this? Phantom of the Opera.
Speaker 1:No, the crazy part is he did that to himself because, remember, he shot that fireball accidentally up to the chandelier. That weakened the chandelier and Ajax was the one that stoned him. But then the chandelier kind of just broke off and yeah.
Speaker 2:He kind of just broke up and yeah, he can't see the symbolism. His own defeat, yeah, that's all. This is simple. Can I mention his fight? Like this, dude's fire is crazy. So understand this. We, you really we realize the fact that how he does his fire, he he's is you give him fire gideon?
Speaker 2:yeah, but it's how he did it. So here's the thing his ability isn't just fire manipulation. So when you really think about how he did it, he blamed Gideon from the inside out like yes, he shot fire through his shoulders into his body and the dude was cooking from the inside out it's almost like Darwin from X-Men First Class, when it's like this kind of little taste of this and this start exhilarating for Nance.
Speaker 1:I'm like God damn.
Speaker 2:When I tell you that was such a gruesome episode.
Speaker 3:To make another nerdy reference, that means he's basically a third generation user in Fire Force.
Speaker 2:If he's third generation, you're correct.
Speaker 3:Because he's creating the fire instead of using fire that's already there.
Speaker 2:But he's also. He's just like dang, what's everyone's favorite character in Fire Force, who's a mix of third and second generation?
Speaker 2:Yeah, because third generation only just makes it. Force who has who's a mix of third and second generation. Yeah because, yeah, benny, because he cannot, because, um, third generation only just makes it, but then tomorrow, and can manipulate on it, and you saw him be able to do that with the um, with the fireplace, he's able to snap his fingers or just like, immediately make the fire go away or snap or snap in, so you can, you can manipulate fire as well as also create fire too. Oh yes, this dude's. Oh, I was like that's op behind the building.
Speaker 1:Wait a second there's no fire from x-men grief hmm, shots fire, literally shots fired.
Speaker 2:But no, that was crazy. When he did that I was just like, oh okay, and he did it right in front of old girl too. So he was like that was that moment. You'd be like, hmm, I understand why no sirens ever stood up to you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he's like on an untouchable level of don't give a damn.
Speaker 2:That type of fire.
Speaker 1:You should put it in the water.
Speaker 2:And the bad part about it, too, is that he doesn't have blue flames or nothing like that either. If it was blue flames, the fire would be like Gideon's death would be a lot faster. It stayed orange, yellow, it's just cooking, just's just cooking, just straight up cooking. Oh, painful death. I'm like oh, that's horrible. This is Wednesday. Yeah, makes sense, there's the Addams.
Speaker 2:Family. I know, oh gosh, wait, do I have a favorite? I thought I had a favorite. I thought I had like a favorite episode into this one. I know I mentioned I think you had heard when I had mentioned about the whole the day of the dead situation. I really loved how they addressed that one so quick, like it was quick and simple, but they definitely addressed that whole culture appropriation into that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she was just jumping off her.
Speaker 2:Yeah, ah, okay. So, yeah, I absolutely definitely loved that one. I mentioned about the fights. I'm trying to think if I had something else, oh, so I want to apologize to everyone. Not even my fault, clearly, but just one of those ones. I feel bad.
Speaker 2:So, like my brother, he came by recently, he came by with his girlfriend and so we was actually talking about it on Wednesday it was actually just the other day and she was frustrated because she said I haven't even seen the series yet. But apparently, like for most people, thane's backstory was completely exposed online. Just completely just ruined it for so many people. So sorry for all y'all. Oh, you know what?
Speaker 1:Listen. That makes me so glad. I watched the episodes as soon as they came out and went on. This bullet wave not gonna get me.
Speaker 2:I just stayed off the internet. Yeah, I mean because in fact I found I just recently found out Kaiju No.8, season 2, has already damn near done, but I'm like, wow, I didn't even know it came out. So yeah, I've been under a rock. Anyway, that's how I saved myself, but still I felt so bad for y'all because that's just insane.
Speaker 2:Now I will say that's one of the ones that I did start catching from two episodes prior, and here's why. So, as isaac started healing, one of the things you notice is that his body was, he was getting more control of his body and how things were going, except his right hand. If you notice the fact that they kept mentioning that he was a Darwin, and it was mentioned at the very beginning, the first episode, that the principal was talking to Morticia about the fact that he's, like you know, these Darwins are so geniuses, and especially their psychic ability, able to um their telekinetic ability no, no uh davinci's, davinci's, yeah, davinci's, yeah, and he's like, it's like you gotta understand, like so isaac is supposed to be one of the best ones, but you never see him use his ability and I'm like, wait a second.
Speaker 2:I was like I started piecing that together a little bit early on, but I first noticed like his hand never healed. His right hand always stayed crippled the whole time. It was one of those ones that you were like is that how he's supposed to be For me? That's how I started catching on too. I was like it would be wild as hell if thing was actually his hand.
Speaker 1:Then he just pulled off that glove. I was like oh no just I felt so bad.
Speaker 2:Look, I thought thing was dead too at the end. You know, thing was struggling to get up, struggling to rip himself from the head, and it was like and then wesley's just standing there, come on thing. And everyone's like, come on thing, come back to us, come back to us.
Speaker 1:Hold on Speaking of which, that one part where it was kind of funny, where Thing kind of had to put his foot down, with Mortician Gomez treating him like a servant pet, whatnot Different errands I think he's in the thing or whatnot, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Matter of fact, I don't think we never reviewed it, but the the latest adams family animated uh movies, those delayed the last two that came out because they were like they were back to me.
Speaker 2:No, they weren't 3d, they were 2d. Okay, cartoon, yeah, it was a cartoon, um, because they'll like I think it was the second one had um Lurch's backstory where you find out that he was a bodyguard and stuff and he had another dude that he knew from a while back. That one I like. How we do get a chance to see that there was something that's been started happening is that we put aside the servants so much. But if it wasn't for the servants, a lot of stuff don't be happening the way like it needs to. You got to show some appreciation for lurch. Lurch cooks your food and drives you everywhere. It's like I'm just saying and then you know, enid wound up picking on, uh, wednesday, about that wednesday tried to do all that driving test episode. There we go that. Oh, that was fun, she was fun. She cut the little break line.
Speaker 1:It was like I'm the captain now.
Speaker 2:I was like no, you didn't. But then Eden was picking up and said you know, we don't all have butlers that can just drive us around, we don't all have chauffeurs. And I'm sitting here like really You're going to try to take a dig at Wednesday. Don't take a dig at Wednesday.
Speaker 1:Nah, the funny part is that she was taking more digs at Wednesday this season than last season Because, remember, they didn't really were like best of both, obviously, but it was at one point where they had a confrontation in season one and now in season two it's more like she's throwing more fingers at Wednesday and Wednesday's, kind of like. I don't know whatever.
Speaker 3:That's because she ain't scared of her. No more. She's like eh, so that's it.
Speaker 1:It's like the Homelander, it's like the Homelander effect, where it seems like every time there's someone that doesn't fear Homelander, he's like keep letting them live for some reason, when he could have killed them anytime. But it's like for some reason when he could have killed him anytime. But it's like for some reason because you don't fear me, I'm gonna keep you around. I don't know that's why. I know it's because you know between Billy Butcher and Sam Edgar, like he could have killed him at any moment. But it's like the fact that they don't fear him. It's like he has like an odd respect for him so he just doesn't do it pretty much.
Speaker 2:So it's like it's. It is kind of a weird thing. It's that you're like you know everyone's afraid of me.
Speaker 1:I want to kill him, but uh, you can tell what madeline still was, where he didn't even he didn't even look. It was all good up. Stilwell said she was afraid of him and that's when he killed her.
Speaker 2:Oh, can I mention this? I was thrown off by one thing in the writing. I swore throughout the series, when they first introduced her, that the music teacher was going to be a villain. I swore she was going to be a villain and it was a big surprise With the birds.
Speaker 1:Hold on, no the birds. I was like hold on. She did kind of get set up, but that's why I thought no, no, no, no.
Speaker 3:Remember season one.
Speaker 1:I don't think they would do that twice in a row though it can't be the case, yeah, like when I saw those birds, it can't be it.
Speaker 2:She can't be it, because you're making it too obvious for me.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, no, I mean but so many other stuff was too obvious too. The principle was too obvious. No, I thought he was kind of funny. I didn't know he was gonna be a villain. I mean, I didn't think you're gonna be like that. I'm like damn so. He was running the whole sirens on the whole time I was watching.
Speaker 2:I was watching the other guys the other day. Okay, I was watching other guys the other day. All right, will pharaoh's character remember? It was the pain was a pimp, but he was like that cool, just simple, funny guy type thing that wanted to be on the desk and everything. But he was like I was just raising out of me you can't, you can't tell daddy what to do. You make daddy money what's this?
Speaker 1:also the same one where he had, like this uh, this latina ex-wife that kind of still wants him, I think. So, yeah, yeah, okay wait, what's that?
Speaker 1:because I know that's the one that had the rock and um no, because like they had like that little Fight in the kitchen to where like it was like a bipolar ass fight, to where she was like hitting him and he was like, oh you, still cute. And then like just hit him again. I was like what the fuck is happening? Like, do you like me or do you hate me? What's going on here?
Speaker 2:I'm just saying. It's usually those simple cool guys, those super calm cool guys who's like easily manipulative, always like I just got away with the ladies, it's just how it works. You just got away with the ladies and you're like you're a pimp, ain't you?
Speaker 1:nah, you know what that makes sense for me like not to get too personal, but it's almost like because like not to flex too much. But you know, I'm trying to like learn more about emotional intelligence, emotional maturity, trying to approach things with a logical, unbiased mindset, and you know what? That's probably why I'm still single, because the thing is if I can't be manipulated, they don't want to fuck with me.
Speaker 2:Can we have an after dark episode we're supposed to do on this one?
Speaker 1:okay, that's right.
Speaker 2:I just thought about that. As you said, I'm like wait a second. You don't look out.
Speaker 1:We do have an after dark episode coming up for relationships but that's like next week or so, like whenever we get to that gotcha, yeah.
Speaker 2:So yeah, people, please don't look after that one you want me to talk about healing drunk past relationships. So, cali, you might even be a fit for this episode oh, speaking of, uh, speaking of like relationships, let's talk about secrets in relationships. Morticia writing goth love stories.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, under what was the name? Barbara something. And then Winston was like you, writing books. I'm like, are you copying my flow?
Speaker 2:but it's one of those ones like when you get older, you understand the arts of darkness and love and compassion. And I'm sitting here, like I said hey, like matisha, you nasty, wait a second. Let's be honest here. For most guys it was already like Partition was just Straight up. It's the golf queen she is, he is her. Is her an L-virus? No, no, no, no.
Speaker 1:The fact that she said In season one when she was like oh well, you know, some people just need that losing of control, kind of like how she let Gomez Think that she runs, that he runs the family.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, she said, she said that the winds, it was so funny. Yes, I mean that's also like, look, that's that's our relationship thing. We know it's true, we know it's true, like most most. Look, it's the thing for me happy wife, happy life, that's that's.
Speaker 1:That's one, that's another reason why I'm like I. I'm in this situation. I'll stand up on the and be like look here.
Speaker 2:You don't talk to me like that. Look, you said it's a happy relationship. You want to be in the happy relationship. You want both parties to be happy. This is true. This is ideal. This is what you really want. But the whole honest truth is for both to be happy. The wife has to be happy. This is what it is. I was going to go ahead and just say that that's where we at. When the wife ain't happy, everything else falls to chaos. That's just what it is. It's just the mom of the household just does that.
Speaker 1:What do I get?
Speaker 3:I'm on the side of happy spouse, happy house.
Speaker 2:And I feel you on that, I do. I feel you, look, as a person who was blessed enough to marry his own Morticia okay, to marry his own Elvira, because my wife is straight up goth emo. I love it everything and she'd probably be writing books, just like Morticia would too, but anyway coming into those things, understand. And she, she'd probably be writing books just like Morticia would too, but anyway coming into those things understand that power is with the wife.
Speaker 2:That's just ideal. What it is is one of those ones that you naturally relinquish the power to, and here's why. Here's why Keep in mind what Gomez winds up saying when they wind up getting the house, when they the power to it. And here's why. Here's why I answer it okay, Keep in mind what Gomez winds up saying when they wind up getting the house, when they're convinced to stay. Okay, gomez immediately goes to Morticia and she's like as horrible as hideous. He says but I know with your touch it'll be fine. Keep in mind, on this one, gomez took no lead in trying to fix up that house.
Speaker 2:When it comes down to the happy home, how the home comes set up is generally the wife that does it. Just saying but you always can have communication. There's always going to be good communication. That's why I love Gomez and Morticia from Adam's Family and Adam's Family Values. Because the thing about it is. That's why I love Gomez and Morticia from Adam's Family and Adam's Family Values. Because the thing about it is as much as Gomez was always relinquishing everything to Morticia, morticia always gave Gomez some power. It wasn't one of those like I make him think that he has power. Gomez, you could tell, felt like the head of the household. He was able to make family decisions. He was able to do stuff like that, versus on Wednesday. You don't see that Every single time. If Gomez wants to do something, it's always a don't tell your mother.
Speaker 1:He was trying already to be the cool dad.
Speaker 2:Don't tell your mother, just don't tell your mother why we do this.
Speaker 1:Gomez didn't do that in Add's family, adam's family values it was almost like he was the kind of dad to where, like he would give puzzly a stiff thread like don't tell your mother yeah, but it was like why?
Speaker 2:why does that always have to be the phrase that kind of goes into? Because even animated series it wasn't that either and gomez was able to take control as the father of the household, like a look, they felt like they were able to have a role like that, like everybody felt important in their own aspect. And that's one of the things that was best about Adam's family too, because that's one of the other non-normal things about it was, during the time the Adams family was so like patriotic was specifically because of the fact that in the home it was was always the husband had full control of everything. The wife couldn't do anything.
Speaker 2:But what made the family so out of whack was that everybody felt equal in things. The kids had some freedom to do stuff. Kids didn't have freedom back in the 80s, it was thrown outside and he had to help us about the 90s. We dealt with it too. But the thing about it is it was always. It was usually always that whole thing of like head of the household was always the dad, always the father, and he was the one that always had to finally say so, regardless of whatever it is the mom felt. But that was not the case.
Speaker 1:For that I wear these, I wear these pants, I pay the bills, I bring home the bread and the bacon.
Speaker 2:Exactly, and so this one is different. Like you get that opportunity Plus. Also, one of the biggest jumps changes into this too, is that in the Adams family, the Adams are the ones that are wealthy versus the Frumps. Versus the Frumps, because, understanding, like with Wednesday, it is Morticia, her mom, is the Frump that actually has the most money in it. That has everything worked out.
Speaker 2:However, in the Addams Family, normalcy and the normal storyline for it is that Gomez and Fester's dad wind up stumbling into a whole bunch of money. If I'm correct, I think it was like oil, but he wound up stumbling into a whole bunch of money. It was like, if I'm correct, I think it was like oil, but he wound up stumbling into a whole bunch of money. He passed it down to his brothers, passed down to his sons, and so both brothers just went doing whatever.
Speaker 2:Gomez was not good with money. He would just keep spending and just doing whatever. But because of his Adam's luck, every time he would spend money it would come back twice or three times as much. So he would spend money on the stock just because, oh, I'm just going to spend the money it would win, and he'd win like five times the amount of money back and that's why, like, the adams family is like the ultimate richest one in like as far as the original lineage. So that is one of the biggest changes. That for season two because they don't highlight that in season one, but for season two that's a big change that actually does happen in the story is that it's not the adams that's rich, it is the fromps that's rich, it's morticia's family that the money comes from and I'm like huh, that's actually a really big change but it's not bad. It still works out pretty well, but it's still one of those ones that's like huh. That's a really big difference on how things kind of worked out there.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Now that I think about it. I've kind of just looked at my list. I've exhausted my list, but I don't have anything else to comment on to this. I mentioned the fight. The final fight was still really good. I did enjoy it. I understand y'all didn't like the designs. I like the Wendigo designs. They're creepy as hell. I don't like Until Dawn the game, but I will say the Wendigo designs are creepy and disturbing and it feels like it's supposed to.
Speaker 1:I mean, I'm curious if that's what they're supposed to look like. That's what they're supposed to look like, but don't point a gun to my head, towards me, to light that I'm like. You might as well pull the trigger, man.
Speaker 2:No, I understand, Because what does it look like? What do they look like? Lord of the Rings, I'm not Dobie. Dobie is Harry Potter. Lord of the Rings, the crawling one, golem, golem, yes, that's what they look like.
Speaker 1:They look like giant long or smiegel, either golem or smiegel. Well, I mean, they had to change his name when he got corrupted by the ring, so oh yeah I don't know, because sometimes you know, like the whole schizophrenic to where, like it's almost like, is it golem or the smiegel that's trying to help him?
Speaker 2:yeah, when you look at the face of the big beady eyes, it looks as they look. The wendigos look almost exactly like that don't they like?
Speaker 1:but least with Gollum he was a little cute and frail. I mean not cute, but small and frail. I'm like all right, I can kind of tolerate a little bit. He just looked like a malnourished child. So I'm like man, I don't know. Big-ass book-eye version. I'm like, oh hell, no, you need to get out of my face. Nah, it's basically like mid-transformation when it's just the bug-eyes, but you feel like in its human form, bro bro listen, you can't keep.
Speaker 1:Like bro, don't come off. It's almost like you can't look at it too fast, otherwise it just like stays in your head rent-free. I'm like I don't need the nightmares fam Like look here, you see this extra-large Harvey's paper bag. Put that on your head real quick.
Speaker 2:Well, we know the creep factor worked out very well for you.
Speaker 1:I mean it's better, because you know how I felt about season one, with the whole eye contact thing, where it just seemed like For some reason it seemed like they were just staring At the fourth wall. Off we went and they're like are you watching me? Watching you? Yes.
Speaker 2:I don't like it. Did you rub my lap? Did you wake me up?
Speaker 2:did you bring me here and now, and now you're going to you know, hey, listen y'all better, mind your business oh, okay, also I do want to mention I have I have my own little promo video that I talked to you about jv that I'm working on. I wanted mention this. The whole time that I was watching Adam's Family, bookingcom kept popping up on commercial for me, because, you know, netflix has this thing now where as soon as you pause it, it automatically puts on the ad, and I'm like I just watched an ad. I don't have the unlimited ad-free version. Stop this nonsense, I'm broke, just let me enjoy my show.
Speaker 1:But I will say the morticia episode, the morticia own commercial for bookingcom, though I was like oh, yeah, now now I remember, yeah, like I'll be scrolling through tiktok and I'll be seeing it every now and then where, like she's on the beach and whatnot, reading her book on. Okay, yeah, yeah, I know you talked about it.
Speaker 2:I'm not talking about the elude, because, if you pay attention, because after I watched the series, when I went back and looked at that commercial and she's actually holding supposed, supposed to be holding one of her books that she wrote, I was like, oh no, I said I see how y'all did it that okay, okay, but hold on, uh, before we close, uh whatnot?
Speaker 1:because there is some nerdy news that I want to play through too, kelly, I gotta admit, because we Kind of had this highlighted moment In season one when, as far as Eugene, I will say that I do Apologize for the Great value Naraku allegations, but he's not beating the nurse. You know Arborama allegations, with him being able to control other insects, but and yet you don't really see that playing a big effect just yet. So I'll leave Eugene alone for now, but if we ever get to a point to where he gets rejected by a girl one too many times and then he decides to okay, since girls don't want to fuck me, then I guess I'm going to be the bad guy this bomb season. I'm like you better pick up that phone when I fucking call it, you think he's going to be sending bees to people.
Speaker 1:I mean, we don't know yet.
Speaker 3:Another fucking sign yo show from like Be like Charlie Day.
Speaker 1:Be like Charlie's mom, Always saying to her like, just give him a box of hornet.
Speaker 3:Bruh, leave Eugene alone.
Speaker 2:He's just a baby.
Speaker 3:He just likes his beef and he likes his moths.
Speaker 1:Come on. She said that she was not ready for a relationship, but she lied to me she's dating this other dude. So now I'm going to fuck it up for everybody, if it happens. I'm just going to laugh. I was saying Because, ever since he said the way that he said it went on. He said that oh yeah, I'm the type of guy that girls appreciate later, and then he looks out in the distance like, oh no, eugene, don't do that like you, thinking like, oh yeah, he's not gonna get any play anytime soon and he already knows it.
Speaker 1:So I'm like don't, don't tell me he's going down the insta or at some point. But um, anyways, let's move on. We got some nerdy news that I want to play through, mainly concerning the nintendo direct. So super mario Mario Galaxy and Super Mario Galaxy 2 is launching October 2nd on the Switch. I think it's going to be on Switch and Switch 2. Metro Prime 4 is coming December 4th. Hades 2 launches on September 25th.
Speaker 1:We got a good look at a new Yoshi game coming out Soon Star Force. The whole legacy Collection is coming soon. I'm kind of low key hyped about that Because you know I'm a I'm a fairly big Mega man fan. I played a lot of games Fire Emblem, they're getting a new game, fortunes weed. That's coming somewhere in 2026. Uh, pokemon, poka, pokopia it's like an animal crossing like version. Like that's crazy how, like you have a problem with power world, kind of copy your flow, but then you're going to copy Animal Crossing's flow and you know whatever. Angela and Daredevil is going to be part of the season pass for Marvel Rivals. And oh yeah, there was, like I already mentioned, the new Yoshi game. Hollow Knight. Silksong is doing very well, like being re-released on current-gen consoles, like doing pretty well and we got some more Mega Evolutions for Pokemon Legends EA. So that was pretty much it. There's a bunch of news going on, mainly involving the Nintendo Direct, but I just wanted to get that out there before we close it out.
Speaker 2:Can I mention something real quick about those? I'm probably not going to be able to be on the next Nerdy News, though, depending on my work schedule.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's, not until January anyway.
Speaker 2:Nintendo fuck y'all motherfuckers.
Speaker 2:Like you said yes, you feel mad about the fact, yes, every game developing company is now concerned as hell. Because here's the thing, because of how broad they made that shit, it's actually a way deeper effect than you really think it is I'm talking about. It's to the point. Now to Final Fantasy games. It ain't summoning whatsoever. If you summon a giant robot, that can now count against that patent. If you summon the giant like just a giant, like regular summoning or something like that can go against that patent. Literally everything now goes against that. Goddamn pet bro bro.
Speaker 1:Yeah. See that's the thing. Some of them are like oh well, not only do we need to make sure that Power World suffered consequences for what they did, we need to make sure that nobody ever attempts this ever. Like we're going to make sure that we corner market on Monster Tank. Like oh shit, dizzymonc mind, oh oh, you're asking for war. With that said because, like literally, literally.
Speaker 2:There's a whole several articles out now with it like this whole patent is now being attacked and being reviewed and potentially be attacked by all these other gaming developers. Nintendo wanted to go after power world. They hit a major power, now made a giant power move that has every single gaming company coming against them, because a lot of these games that's coming out has summoning systems are all just normal. Now look, here's the thing marvel versus capcom. You calling an assist counts as a summon. So marvel versus capcom are you doing? Assisted attacks doesn't count, no more. Yeah, kingdom Hearts is like, like I said, was the Final Fantasy thing. All of that. That patent affects damn near every single game in existence. Kingdom Hearts 4 now has the potential of being further delayed because of the fucking patent.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're going to hear from Bandai Namco because of the patent. Oh you, you're gonna hear from um bandai namco because of nerds and whatnot.
Speaker 2:You know somebody's, you know somebody's just completely cut off, like you're not allowed to do that. Um substitution jutsu counts as that too. You're summoning a log type anything, all that, all of it and it. It hits everybody and I'm like, no, fuck that shit. Y'all y'all some bullshit. Um, now I want to shout out to the developers for um hollow knight, because silk song, the second game. Look, I done seen several people playing it. That game looks fucking amazing. I can't wait to play it myself when I get the opportunity. First off, the first ever game to break every single gaming network. You busted steam, xbox playstation network and nintendo switch online, nintendo online.
Speaker 1:All four of them broke the same day for four hours oh, um, before I forget too, demon Slayer Infinity Castle did very well in theaters made $33 million on opening day.
Speaker 2:Oh, it's already past $56 million. We're still in the weekend reviewing this, Doing this review. It's already past $56 million.
Speaker 1:I mean yeah, but you know, I mean it's opening day, like the very first day that I'm talking like 33 in the first day. That was whoa, like everybody showed up.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my niece told me. She said it's so good. Uncle Jerry, when you gonna go watch it, I'm like you know.
Speaker 1:I'm good I read the manga, so I'm good, I I'm like you know, I'm good I read the manga, so I'm good I mean I'll watch it when it's like On the streaming, but like, yeah, you know, I already know what happened.
Speaker 2:So I don't know. I'll probably be looking at this being inside theaters for a long time, so I don't know, we'll see.
Speaker 1:I mean, we'll see. I know one thing for sure we're planning on reviewing Demon's Flayer In October, so we're probably going to talk about it anyways. Might as well go ahead and see it when we can, if we can. Gally Not going to take up too much time. Is there anything you want to add on To the Wednesday review Before we close it out?
Speaker 3:no, I don't think so. I think I said everything I needed to say. Thank you for having me on bad, bad, cool, cool, cool.
Speaker 1:All right, let's just go ahead and close this out. Uh, thank you to the participants for being on with me for this. Uh, go ahead and have yourself a good morning, good afternoon, good evening, good night. Ultimately, do take it easy and remember that great things are coming. We're gonna stay nerdy two years until season three, by the way, so I hope you got a lot on your backlog as far as like different shows or movies that you can watch and buy your time, because you know there's gonna be, uh, hold on, that's coming out in like 2027, so it's gonna be. So, if it's two years, it's at 2027. Shit, secret Wars and a whole bunch of other shit's coming out by then, and then we're gonna have like, uh, doomsday and the New Spider movie and a whole bunch of other shit happening in 2026. So, yeah, by the time season 3 comes out, it won't even feel like a excruciating long time, but let's go ahead and zone up out of here y'all, uh, yeah.
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