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K-Pop Demon Hunters: The Magic & Music Behind Netflix's Latest Hit!
When an animated film bursts onto the scene with such vibrant energy that viewers can't help but watch it multiple times, you know something special has happened. K-Pop Demon Hunters has rapidly climbed to become Netflix's #2 movie globally, captivating audiences with its perfect blend of catchy music, stunning animation, and surprisingly deep storytelling.
At its heart lies the journey of Rumi, a member of K-pop sensation Huntrix who discovers she's half-demon—a revelation that comes shockingly early in the film and sets the stage for a profound exploration of identity and self-acceptance. The film doesn't shy away from complexity, presenting characters with genuine moral ambiguity like Jinwoo, whose backstory evolves from victim to someone who abandoned his family. This approach elevates what could have been a standard animated feature into something much more meaningful.
The soundtrack deserves special mention, featuring earworm hits like "Soda Pop" performed by the fictional Saja Boys, the emotionally resonant "Golden," and the fourth-wall-breaking "Your Idol." These songs do more than just entertain—they drive the narrative forward and explore themes of duality, rebellion, and finding balance between conflicting aspects of oneself. The animation style, from the team behind Spider-Man: Into the Spider-Verse, brings these musical numbers to life with fluid choreography and vibrant colors that make every frame a visual feast.
What makes K-Pop Demon Hunters truly stand out is how it weaves Korean mythology with modern pop culture, creating a world rich with potential that begs for further exploration. From theories about Gima potentially being Rumi's father to questions about Selene's mysterious past, fans are already crafting elaborate stories to fill in the gaps the movie intentionally leaves open. The film's willingness to show real consequences—people who are consumed by demon fire don't return—adds meaningful stakes that many animated features avoid.
Have you joined the ranks of viewers who can't stop singing "Soda Pop"? Are you analyzing every frame for clues about the Huntrix's history? Share your theories and favorite moments, and join us in the campaign for a sequel that dives deeper into this captivating world of music, mythology, and self-discovery!
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Yo, what's good everybody. This is Kokugatsu, and I got Miss Sebi Phantom here and we, of course, have to talk about this fantastic new movie that just dropped on Netflix. Man, I'm actually super surprised about this one, because I've seen the previews and at first I'm not gonna lie the previews looked as though it was supposed to be a TV series, and when I looked at it I was like, oh, this looks interesting. Okay, yeah, I'm probably going to watch it, and I was trying to get my kids invited into it and I'm like, maybe see if they may like it or not too. But not only is this movie number one in the kids movies on adults Netflix, it is still reigning as number two of top movies to watch on Netflix, and that is, of course, that movie, k-pop, demon Hunters. I got Sebi Phantom on the line and she said that she also liked this movie as well too, sebi what do you think about this?
Speaker 2:I don't think it's a like anymore. I think I'm obsessed with this movie. I listened to the soundtrack on the way to work because it is addicting. I watched it. Yes, I watched it a ton of times. I watch it. Yes, I watch it a ton of times. To be fair and honest, I even got my husband involved.
Speaker 1:I don't know.
Speaker 2:I got my wife like he'll be like, yeah, let's listen to some Saja Boys. And I'm like Saja Boys. And he goes, yeah, the Saja Boys, you know the idol song. And I'm like, yeah, okay, we're gonna listen to that. He's obsessed with it just as much as I am and it's a great movie and I'd love to see. I don't know if you saw that the sadra voice is the first k-pop group to be number one in the united states yes, I did.
Speaker 1:I did because like k-pop has never been like one of the biggest things in us, because like it was always a whole thing. We had our own pops, you know boy bands and all that type of stuff. So when it once it came down to like k-pop and j-pop, that was kind of something that did pick up a little bit. But some people was like, no, you're just copying america. But the fact that, yeah, the fact that it's number one, is an excellent thing, it's like, yeah, it's, it's just that good Soda pop is just it's popping. My kid still thinks he's never finished the movie because he got scared halfway through. He's four, but every now and again, you're my soda pop, you'll be my soda pop pop.
Speaker 2:Yes, seems about right. That's literally what I was doing, waiting for everything, and I'm like soda pop. Yeah, I'm singing it like I was doing a whole little dance and everything like it's addicting yeah, it's getting the soldiers pop and everything.
Speaker 1:I will say, even for me, I was unsure if I was gonna watch it because it looked like it was good. I'm like I don't know. I probably meant I might just have to watch. Kids on my mind might not watch it. Then there was a youtuber I follow. He does these things where people send him cash apps and they send him some money on cash app and tell him it's like hey, I want to hear what your thoughts on this one, which is something I really think we should start doing, because making some money by giving reviews, Anyway. But yeah, he wound up doing one of them. It was like the way he started off. He says he asked me what's my thoughts on K-Pop, Demon Hunters? He said if Netflix does, not give me a sequel?
Speaker 2:right now I'm canceling my subscription. Seems about right, but it did take maggie kang almost nine years to make this true. So, but be patient.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, it's made by the same people who wound up doing into the spider verse series, which, for one, is like, clearly, you're sitting here like, hey, they're taking their time working on that. You're like, well, what are you working on it? Better be good. Boom releases this movie. Never mind, you keep cooking. You know what you're doing, you know exactly what you're doing. So I hope you, I hope you pay for the next, because I absolutely do want a sequel. Um, but, generalization of it, absolutely love the movie. For me it is an absolute 9.5 out of 10. I'm not going to give it a full-on, perfect 10 out of 10 because, like I said, I want a sequel. I want to continue it on. You know, give me something a little bit better. We have more stories to really dive into. But what would you say, sabia? How would you rate this?
Speaker 2:I think a 9.5 is very appropriate for this movie. When I saw it first come out I also thought it was a series. I thought we were going to be able to see More performances. But I enjoyed the movie. Don't get me wrong. I just wish that we got a little bit more backstory On how the Huntrix Do out the decades and we got to see more of um the saja boys and how they're like, how they became the demon group. You know, I wish there was a little bit more, but I'm hoping that's what the sequel if we ever do get a sequel. I hope that's what accomplishes my theories oh same, definitely so, without further ado.
Speaker 1:We've gotten the generalization onto it. Spoiler warning ahead at this point now as we go ahead and dive into it. So it's time to go ahead and zone in there. So, when you mentioned as far as about the saja boys, yes, there's actually so many theories that wound up floating about that. One of the most popular ones that I've seen so far is what was it that?
Speaker 1:The saja boys were? Actually a boy band group that sold their souls to try to become number one. Unfortunately, it wound up falling through and they wound up becoming demons. And then here comes Jinwoo, who winds up finding them and then winds up taking them and making them the Saja Boys. The little thing into that is when it comes down to it with the scene, when they're at the doctor's office, right before we're first introduced to the actual humanoid version of the Sasha boys, where in all the pictures there's a boy band group that looks strangely familiar to them. As soon as we see that picture, then all of a sudden, we see these boys. Now that was a very interesting theory. Do you have another one, or was that something like you've heard of?
Speaker 2:yeah, that was about exactly what I heard when that picture and things of that nature I did see that um. I think another one that I also saw was that the first, the first four sadra boys also came from around the same decade that genu came from. That kind of had a similar experience where they gave up, where jeans like genu gave up his um, like his poverty, to become the best beeper player, things of that nature. I saw that um, there was a couple of others out there that was kind of floating, but nothing as popular as those two gotcha.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, so that was definitely sounds pretty interesting if they did want to be in even that far behind. But considering the fact that they're considered such a minor character into us, we focus more on our three girls of the huntrix and then jenny was one just pretty much focusing on just those four and how we're getting an understanding for them. Now you mentioned that you do have some other theories into it. I would love to hear what you're feeling about this right now yeah.
Speaker 2:So a couple of other theories in regards to um, the huntrix, roomie, mirror and zoe. It's got more to do with. Like roomie, we see that when she's on, after she loses her voice, she goes up onto the top of the building and she's really upset and she screams and she pounds her hands down. We've only seen her voice become echoed like that With one other character and that's Gima.
Speaker 2:So I kind of have a theory when Gima is actually her father Because of how powerful Rumi is. We don't see that with Jinu, we don't see that with the others. We only see that type of power with Gima. And that's where I think Selene is kind of trying to hide that away. Wish we got more of Selene to find out where this information comes from. But Selene basically just tells Rumi like you need to hide your marks and when the honeymoon turns gold G, like you need to hide your marks and when the honeymoon turns gold, gima will go away and your marks will go away. So that kind of like brings up a line of is Gima like Rumi's dad?
Speaker 1:True. And what made her think that this actually would be happening? Because it's definitely as we learned at the end of the movie, we don't necessarily get a gold veil, but we get something a little bit similar, but obviously, I would say, more powerful. Being more of a rainbow is shined to it, sheen to it would be. Her markings didn't go away. Her markings stayed.
Speaker 1:So, even if it wound up being a gold veil, it's still the good possibility. You know her markings would have stayed there. And then that point is questionable of you helped us make this gold seal, but you're actually a demon how does that work out? Or even a half demon how does that work out, you know?
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:So it's a very interesting thing. So I didn't necessarily hear into that one, but that would be pretty interesting as far as, like you said, with the echoes into it, I always thought the whole moon doing the echo was just based upon the fact of her like, uh, breaking her concentration of it, because the whole moon is created by the people, like what, the? What it is is that the, the I forgot exactly what they're called, but the warriors that think that they wound up gathering the soul essence together of all the people and using that to create that special barrier to hold the demons down, because it is through them and that's why they're like we need to. When June says we're going to go after the actual source of the honeymoon itself instead of constantly going after them and trying to take them down, which always fails. Let's just get the people Right. And as they started taking people's souls, started creating holes in the home moon because they're not there, because they took those people's souls, it created those little holes into it and her echoing through it just kind of aided into that.
Speaker 1:But I'm not entirely sure there's like so much more to dive into. It would be super amazing to see a sequel of how that would work out, because, yeah, it's like we saw that at the very beginning. I will say that's one of the craziest things for me on this movie. They threw the plot twist at the beginning of the movie. So it was like, oh okay, because usually this would be something like maybe we would wait until we would go ahead and see how is this going to work out like later on in the movie usually at about like, uh, like halfway through or something like that.
Speaker 1:But we hit it at the beginning of the movie, instantly finds out, oh, she's half demon, she's got marks, and boom, oh, wow, okay, this is pretty awesome. Um, how are we going to keep this interest? And then we wound up getting a further on twist with jinwoo. I love the fact that we were able to hit that early on to just explain how this story is going to break down and then progress further with Jinwoo's story and see how we're doing that as well too. What did you think about as far as story? Did you feel anything about those twists coming so early on?
Speaker 2:So, regarding the twist, I liked that it was in the beginning as well. I also thought it came in a bit rushed. I mean, to be fair, we were also in the first 15-20 minutes of the movie and bam, we're being told Rumi is part demon, which I get. It definitely goes in with why we want to take down the demons closer and towards the middle and end of the movie. Um, I all I just felt like it was kind of rushed in that beginning portion and trying to get to the whole fact that we have the sadra boys, gima hon moon, it's done true, I guess, still so much more development.
Speaker 1:It's like we hoped it would have been a series and that's yeah. It definitely ties more into that. 9.5. Again, it's still very high rating. Obviously we love the music, we love the animation all into it. But because there's so much more that we are so badly wanting, it's like, yes, a movie's supposed to leave you wanting, but usually, even if you do parts, sometimes unless it's like a to be continued situation you want it to be a. I'm satisfied with this, but I'm ready for my next course, not in a. I've only eaten half my meal. Where's the rest of it? And it does kind of feel that way like we left off where it should have been a satisfying ending, but because of so much lack of information it still left us so unsatisfied. Still enjoyed it, but where's the rest?
Speaker 2:as someone who's very prevalent in the fan fiction community, I do want to say how fast everyone was writing sequels of this movie. June 20th. That movie came out june 20th, 20 minutes after that movie came out. June 20th, 20 minutes after that movie came out, ao3 was bouncing with sequels already, like handwritten sequels. People were writing fanfiction. It was fast. So I do want to commend the fanfiction community for how fast they got everything up.
Speaker 1:Oh, most definitely they're going to be like it was just that good. But, yeah, definitely they were hitting that hard, very hard, and so, especially when Netflix released this if I'm correct, it released worldwide at the same time, so it wasn't like it hit one time zone before another one, it hit everybody at the exact same time. So it was very interesting seeing them kind of come up with those fanfics so quickly. I actually haven't read any of them, but I started.
Speaker 2:I those fanfics so quickly. I haven't read any of them, but I started. I read one. I forgot the name of it. Kudos to this person, because two days later they already had 25 chapters up you got to send me that link. I kind of want to watch 22nd 25 chapters already written.
Speaker 1:You work fast jesus, yes, I'm trying to get stories written up like that. I just came up with a whole new chapter of my stories last night, but that was one 25, jesus, okay exactly.
Speaker 1:I get writers blocked halfway through my chapters and you're pumping them out already wow, okay, that's pretty cool, alright, so, yeah, I mean it definitely is so much more into it. So, out of all of our characters so far, when it comes down to it, we focus still so heavily for rumi and jin, but do you have any other characters that you really want to focus on into this movie as well?
Speaker 2:so we have rum, we have Jinu I would love to see more of. I guess I'd go back to Selene. Selene I only get very tidbits of. She was a star, a sunlight sister. She was one of the main vocalists. I just want more of her. I want to know where she came in. After you know, it's just a lot of unanswered questions. I want to see more of Celine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because there's so much to kind of dive into it as far as like, what is this like your sister that you're protecting? So she's so, you're like her aunt and that's why you're so protective of things, or like, how has it been going up? Because we only, like you said, we only saw her like a little bit. We saw they mentioned how strict she is. We saw her for that moment of a flashback, um, where she was where roomie was talking when she was a kid. We saw a flashback when they were inviting her to hot spring. She would never go go to the bathhouse and she'd never go. And then we wound up getting a chance to see her at the end of the movie where she winds up getting confronted by roomie. Based upon everything you told me, it didn't work out and it feels like you just kind of led me astray, type of thing yeah, I have a love-hate relationship with celine.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying I can understand that's how they painted that, but I think that was also on purpose too. It's one of those generational curse things. Everybody has something in their family that they're technically shamed of and when you think about it, especially going for the song Golden, it's absolutely my favorite song of the movie, which is crazy. I have a bunch of songs that definitely, but Golden is my favorite song because it showcases how the two other girls, both Mira and Zoe, they have come to terms of who they are and that's where, like, that song hits such a big thing. It hits that big plot twist at the beginning of the movie because you wind up having like one she's a rebel. You know, I was a rebel in my family, but now that's not getting paid. Epic line, by the way, just fantastic line anyway. But that's how I get paid. Epic line, by the way, it's a fantastic line Anyway, but that's her thing is the fact that she's like I'm that rebel person, but I'm accepted that of me and now I'm using that to my advantage. Me being a rebel works out better for me being a demon hunter. It works out better for me being the choreographer. I am out there, I just make these new, different things and it works for me and I'm able to utilize that.
Speaker 1:Zoe, with her raps, does fantastic. She's battling two different worlds and was able to find a way to balance them. And that's where we come down for Rumi. Rumi, technically, is rebelling against one of her natures. She's either rebelling against her demon nature by hunting demons or she's rebelling against her human nature by hiding the fact that she's a demon and she's struggling into that. While Zoe found that balance, she has not found the balance between her demon and her human side. The two bloods, two lines, wind up mixing into her and it mixed near perfectly because she is a demon who is able to be um was able to be a demon hunter. She's able to utilize those abilities. You don't see that happen for anyone else.
Speaker 1:I couldn't imagine jinwu being able to fight any other demons like that. To be honest with you, that might be a difficult task for her versus she is still able to pull out her soul weapon like it's nothing. She's able to still utilize all of that, but technically she's still part demon as well. And how would that work out? Somehow another is still blended to her perfectly, but she's not able to recognize that because she's forced to hide that all the time. And so it's like golden showcases that both mira and zoe, we have accepted ourselves for who we are.
Speaker 1:And Rumi thought that this was her chance to say oh, I've accepted finally who I am now. But you didn't. And I love the doctor because the doctor, everything the doctor said was still correct and it was crazy. It's like he's a whack doctor but he everything he said was still true. He says you have so many layers to understand the whole of something. You got to understand each part. You're only focusing on one part but you're not focusing on the other, and that's where your issues are coming. Even if I don't know what the other part is, I think you do and it's the truth. It just resonated with me. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:No, that was beautiful. That was gorgeous. Like I couldn't explain it any better than what you've got. Like you're there, you still don't go to the hot springs, but you accepted who you are. If you accepted who you are, you would have told your friends. But again, I understand. I. I've seen situations like this happen before and again, again. It's why it's so beautifully explained, not just by you, but by that crack doctor as well.
Speaker 1:Especially him going to big eyes into it, Just like I see you. And then, oh my goodness, Looking at Zoe you're like you're wanting to conform too much into what other people say. Looking at Mira oh, I'm scared. Let me back up.
Speaker 2:You said your favorite song is Golden. My favorite song is your Idol. That is the best disbandment song ever. 10 out of 10. That last song, your Idol. They fed into the fans Out of 10, the everything they. That last song, your Idol. They fed into the fans. Like you can't tell me they didn't feed into them fans.
Speaker 1:Oh, it called out all of your issues straight up to the point and then literally said I'm preaching to the choir and it was like dang Preaching to the crowd, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, seems about right.
Speaker 1:I'm like, I didn't feel like being Called out by a song, but you know, I guess it's catchy.
Speaker 2:Don't look at me. Don't look at me while you grab your little chain. Don't do that to me. We'll fight.
Speaker 1:It's one of those ones where and it's funny that I'm making this particular reference here, but going back to like Last year with the feud Between Kendrick and Drake but just that one line that he wound up saying in the song Euphoria he makes songs that pacify him, I make songs that electrify him. That song right there. We hear so many songs that help us escape From reality.
Speaker 2:But sometimes you need to hear a long as don't tell you you need to confront Right when it pans to Zoe and her face is like really sad, and then the smile comes up and I'm like, yeah, that's me, that's me, oh.
Speaker 1:Yes, it's the same into that. But I'm like, okay, okay, but yeah. Otherwise it's like we didn't get. I do feel like I wish we had more world building. We didn't see as much of the demon world like is that all the demon world is? It's just this one big tower that's With him on top and then everybody's just Around.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I get it like Cause, what I Interpret from like Um, from like the plot that there's more than just one Country that has this Problem. You know, like Gima might be Koreans, korea's like demon king or something of that nature. And then america's got something else and china has something like I want to see more of, like the international stars, like who's running america. I've got a little fan fiction going of. This is funny. I have a little fan fiction going Of a group In oh my gosh, I just blanked all of a sudden In Vatican City.
Speaker 1:Ah, okay.
Speaker 2:Like I want to see more Of little, Like little artists all over the place, because if Rumi, Zoe and Mira are controlling the Han Moon from all over the United States, props to you, but there's got to be more. I feel like the Han Moon just stretches over Korea and then the next person in China. They're the ones controlling that Han Moon, you know.
Speaker 1:I would could definitely understand that home, especially cuz. In fact, I was like they emphasize it so much. It's like they helped put the barrier over the world and they stress that a lot. But then, yeah, like you said, zoe, she battles because he's been to the United States also. The only thing is, like you know every how a lot of, a lot of Asian movies do this they rely on putting stuff in the background for you to pay attention to. Thankfully, like when we watch it there's stuff that isn't English to read. For example, we have moments where the people going missing you know we focus that one on just that town that they were at. That was like increasing a lot.
Speaker 1:But they did have moments of mentioning, like in the background, as far as their song, when golden first dropped, it was the hit around the world and it showed various other songs.
Speaker 1:When, um, their, when their manager was showing them a list of their songs, like moving up to the chart and it showed a bunch of actual famous songs from all over the world. So it did did wind up saying as far as, in that regard, golden was a worldwide hit, it was the number one song across the world and kind of helping out. So it doesn't quite answer the question, but it does kind of push a little bit further into it that it may wind up being them that helps push this barrier across the world. Maybe may wind up being them that helps push this barrier across the world, maybe. But I could definitely still see what you're saying as far as there has to be demon hunters elsewhere. That's able to really kind of put this together and I just can only imagine, like demon hunters like in America, pulling out guns my soul, mine's my soul, I'm shotting, got a Glock. That's how the world perceives America anyway, exactly. Might as well make us all a business.
Speaker 2:Here's a question for you what happened to all the people that went missing? Do we just skip over that?
Speaker 1:Oh no, no, so that's one of the things I do like about this. I appreciate some kid movies that do this. We have shows where it's like, oh, there's a way to bring them back, type of thing. No, he's a demonic fire, he consumed them. They are gone.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:They're dead.
Speaker 2:They're gone. It was like, hey, this is a kid show, I'm sorry they're dead, they're gone. This is just gone.
Speaker 1:It was like hey, this is a kid show. How many people died At the end of the show? Oh, let's see. Halfway through the movie they counted up to about 300 people Going missing. So by the end of the movie Because they didn't stop Everybody from going in, no Rumi didn't show up Until like there was at least About 20-, 30 people that made it into the fire before she showed up. So probably about 400 people may have died this morning.
Speaker 2:Tell you, back in my day your grandfather died because he went on a train and then he just disappeared. We all know what happened to him the entire train gone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the entire train was empty and that was. That was scary. I was like whoa so? And then like the only thing that was left was a close. It was like cell dragon ball z had popped up.
Speaker 2:It started oh my gosh, that is a great. Oh my gosh it makes sense.
Speaker 1:It's like you take care of your soul. Oh, my body disappeared too. I thought the body and soul was different, but it's still technically connected. So if I don't take care of my body, I'm definitely not taking care of my soul, correct? It seems you read Jujutsu Kaisen and you're like oh yeah, the reverse curse technique. That's right. It's balancing the negative curse energy in your soul that heals you. That makes sense. Your body is part of your soul and it's like. So now you understand why a lot of Chinese, japanese, korean, a lot of Asian like medicine is based on the three balances all connected together. It was still just like I couldn't imagine going somewhere and just seeing nothing but a bunch of clothes Just laying around. I'd be like call out of work today.
Speaker 2:You walk in and you just turn right back around.
Speaker 1:I can't make it why there's nothing but a bunch of clothes and a train Ain't no people. It's just a ghost train. I don't even it why there's nothing but a bunch of clothes and a train Ain't no people. It's just a ghost train. I don't even know how it stopped at the station.
Speaker 2:Soda Pop is playing in the background, like I'm going home.
Speaker 1:You'd be like I don't want to listen to that one movie. Play Someone that says I don't want to listen to that song no more, and you'd be like why it's such a great song is. But every time I hear the song, people go missing. It's weird, crazy right it's so wild well, listen to golden. I feel like amazing inside, but honestly that's just disappear feels like it's connected somehow.
Speaker 1:Anyway, oh my gosh, but I did love to see their interactions, uh, between the two band groups, because that's it's hilarious, because it's very true. I have seen a lot of j-pop, k-pop interviews and game shows and that is very true, their interaction, where a lot of time they just start picking on each other and they'll do it in public On purpose, to be like oh, you thought that you snuck up, but we knew you were there. We invite you to this game show Just to Kind of make fun of you here In public and just see how you handle it. Oh, that business gets so grimy, it gets so grimy and I hate to say that I love the drama. It'd be funny.
Speaker 2:Yes, when Not to go off tangent, but I watch a lot of K-pop idol shows Like you want to be the next K-pop star? Yes, two years ago, a year ago, they brought the worst of the worst onto the show Just to make fun of them because they couldn't sing or they couldn't rap. If you know exactly what I'm talking about? You know exactly what I'm talking about, just that's it. That's all I'm going to say, because, oh my gosh, I had to stand back and go. Y'all really brought this person up here. It's not because of looks. You brought this person up there because they cannot sing or rap.
Speaker 1:Yep up there because they cannot sing or rap. Yep, I saw clips on YouTube. It's usually that with Family Feud, I don't know what's up. It'd just be hilarious. Sometimes you gotta find the most embarrassing moments and I'd be feeling so bad because there's some people that wind up going off that stage crying. They'd be really upset. They'd be like oh, I'm so sorry. Why did you allow yourself to come here here? You knew you couldn't sing. You knew what they were going to do. Not all fame is good fame, just.
Speaker 2:I can't help but now listen to that song and be like, yep, that's that person singing, but it's not.
Speaker 1:That part exactly.
Speaker 2:Oh, what did you think of Sussy and derpy, the tiger and the bird?
Speaker 1:I love. Oh my god, the crow Crow was oh it's a magpie. It is. It is to me. Everyone keeps calling them crow, but I've seen online a bit, but online I bet. Oh my goodness, I love the bird he's sitting here talking about. Why does the crow have a little hat? I made it for the cats, but the bird's taking it, and the fact is you never see the bird's face. You only see his profile with his three eyes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it was really funny On how they named him. They named the tiger derpy because of his eyes, and then the magpie um, they confirmed it to be sussy, because how sussy is. That's literally the only reason why they named him that's perfect though it's.
Speaker 1:There's no, doesn't need to be anything more than that. It's pretty straight forward. It's very suspicious, you very sus little bird, and it's like I don't care. And it's so sassy. I do what I want to do. Who cares? Even those little moments in the movie Was pretty great with them.
Speaker 2:That's another reason why I think Genie was still alive, because Sussy and Derpy are still alive and Only Genie could control them. Another reason why I think Genu is still alive Because Sussie and Derpy are still alive and Only Genu could control them, unless he magically gave the power To Rumi. Other than that they're still there.
Speaker 1:I don't think they were actually Controlled either is the thing about it, because a lot of times they did seem to have a lot of their own Free will for things. They just kind of Showed up every now and again and he used them for, like, the transportation, not translated, but the transported the messages back and forth. Oh, that was still hilarious. So old school through the cars, it's just like it's so old school, it's so old and it was like save the date and he's like so I thought he was wasn't that it was thinking like oh my goodness, I can imagine it plays perfectly, because in fact he's like over 400 years old.
Speaker 1:It makes sense he's gonna think real old school way, very literal with words.
Speaker 2:There's no play on words with him the elderly woman coming up and was like get a new boyfriend, you can do better.
Speaker 1:Elderly woman coming up and was like get a new boyfriend, you can do better. It's like, oh my gosh, it's so funny. But yes, it's so many great and funny moments into it. I absolutely enjoy it whatsoever. It was a joy movie from beginning all the way to the end. Even those moments that got real serious, fantastic all the way through. So now we talked about our favorite songs. Is there a least favorite song that you have throughout the movie?
Speaker 2:Least favorite song, I would have to say Takedown. I think the song is pretty. I'm not going to say generic, but it's kind of like they made. The song is pretty I'm not going to say generic, but it's kind of like they made the song for it. They only sang it like a very short time and that's all we hear about it. For you to actually hear the full song you have to go listen to the actual soundtrack of it. But it's pretty repeating.
Speaker 1:If that makes sense. I thought they played takedown also at the credits, because it was like I listened to the credits, because that song was playing throughout the entire credit sequence as well, and I can see what you mean. As far as being pretty repeated, I mean considering the fact that it was a song that was purposely pushed as a not finished type of thing because she wanted to keep changing her lyrics because it didn't fit for her properly anymore. It was like it felt too much of attack and she started to get more of the understanding of her demon side, which, also, going back really quick with that theory that you mentioned, it'll be very interesting. Giwan was her father, considering the fact that he even said himself she bears my mark, but I have no control over her, which is a very interesting thing, for that it was. They didn't question me further into that. I'm so upset. Okay, so takedown. So I would agree onto that.
Speaker 1:One takedown would actually be my least favorite song. Again, not so much that it's not so catchy, it's the fact that it's not the song that I'm bumping the most when I'm listening to this soundtrack, right Like the beginning, the very beginning. Oh, I'm listening to this song, straight off. In fact, I imagine them jumping off the airplane, landing on the ground, just like yeah, this is straight up. I love this Huntrix. But yeah, I would have to say Takedown would probably be the least favorite one, but not that it's not good, it's still up there.
Speaker 1:If you're giving these songs and the rating's up a 10, you'd be like. Takedown was probably the 8.5, and the fact that that's probably the lowest rating that I would give it really speaks on how good these songs are. I don't like musicals like that, but there are two things out or three. There's three that I have watched that are musicals that I've actually watched all the way through, that I enjoyed, and this is one of them, but otherwise I don't really like musicals. My daughter's been trying to get me to watch Hamilton and I'm sorry I'm not the biggest Shakespeare fan.
Speaker 2:It's not even Shakespeare. What Okay? You're talking to the wrong person about this, because I've seen it live. I watch it every year for my birthday. I have Hamilton merch. I'm not the person to talk to about Hamilton Because I will go off on a tangent. It is why I didn't. I had to record my own side Because of how long my side was gonna be uh, that's fair.
Speaker 1:That's fair, okay, I got you, I got you, all right. Oh, okay, that is perfectly fair.
Speaker 1:So I'll leave Hamilton alone but it's just one of those ones I'm just mentioning. As far as, like, I don't really like musicals like that, I don't like stuff that has a lot of singing, like I did when I was a kid, but I don't know, as I don't want to be like, oh, as I became an adult. It's not that situation. It's just the fact that I appreciate such a good storyline that I've noticed that a lot of movies, when they focus so much on the singing and the songs to go through, it starts lacking a story it relies so heavily on. Just like, how can we fit this song in versus this is the story and we're gonna make a song fit with the story per se and it's like that's kind of been my lackluster thing today here's another thing.
Speaker 2:That kind of like struck me a little bit. Um, I listen to a lot of k-pop. I'm a big islet fan, um girl k-pop group. What I noticed that these songs are actually coinciding with a lot of k-pop songs that are coming out today. A lot of k-pop groups are going less of the korean route and going more of the english lyrics with hints of korean inside of it.
Speaker 2:Um, so I did notice that a lot of songs in this movie is reflecting what's popular now. Um, because I've been listening to girl k-pop groups for the longest time, when twice because they're they have a song in here called strategy their early stages were nothing but korean, but to see them elevated to korean hints with english, um main vocals, I'm seeing that a lot more personally now. So I'm wondering how. I'm not really wondering, but I'm seeing that it's taking its effect not only in actual songs but into the movies as well. I don't know if that was a purposeful thing because this came out universal all across the world type thing and you're just trying to relate a bit more, or it's actually reflecting today's music in k-pop true, true, okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I could definitely see that it will say I do feel like it is reflecting more popular, because that would. That is what's most popular right now, that's what most people are really listening to, so I could definitely see it into that aspect. Um, I mean, as far as my list I've mostly been listening to I'm old school on my k-pop and j-pop, I kind of have things mixed together um big bang taehyung, um shiny I want to listen to shiny because I love training to it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, she used to listen to it before she. I wanted to pass it away, so it's like I can just kind of stick with it.
Speaker 2:Of course, g-dragon, oh my gosh g-dragon, that's a name I haven't heard in forever. Monster x, that's another one that I used to listen to. Um, going back to that twice thing, I think if I can pull up I've got my entire old like old k-pop group NCT Dream. I still like that.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, I have like a whole list of different that I listen to, but mine is mostly old. It's not that I don't listen to more new ones. I just really like the old ones a little bit better to me, just personally. But it's not that I don't like the new ones. The new ones are still fantastic and that's why I absolutely appreciated the music into this movie, because it incorporated all the new stuff and still really really worked out well. So I really loved, kind of like how that worked out.
Speaker 2:No, yeah. Kudos to Twice, though, because they're the longest living K-pop group right now. Oh yeah, they were born nine years ago and it's 2025 and they still haven't disbanded yet.
Speaker 1:Kudos to y'all love y'all, and now people are like their music is popping a lot more now because of this movie.
Speaker 2:It really just hit.
Speaker 1:Some people are like who's Twice? I've never heard of Twice before, and then wind up starting to listen to the other songs. They are hitting up charts heavily. Hitting the movie right was the best decision, exactly.
Speaker 2:Making strategy for this movie best thing you've ever done, because now you need to go listen to what Is Love, because that is my favorite Twice song ever.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, it's been a minute since I heard that. I can't fully remember the lyrics of it, but okay, see, we're putting you on y'all. We're putting y'all we do. We listen to a variety of things, like whenever we kind of come into our podcast. We love talking about stuff because we enjoy it, like this movie really. Just it was exciting. I'm just like I love watching.
Speaker 1:Even before then, I used to watch a lot of korean movies with my mom, like that was a big thing. She loves watching Chinese kung fu movies and then we watched K-dramas and some of the Korean movies was just off the wall, insane. Super High School is a really old Korean movie and it's about these kids who have superpowers. But they all go to high school. But it's difficult living the life of high school with superpowers because they don't get along that well and then sometimes some of them are stronger than the teachers, so like the strongest kid runs the school type of thing and it's it gets insane.
Speaker 1:But it's one of those ones that, as insane as it is, it's still just amazing to watch. You just can't stop watching it. So it's like so many different korean movies that I have seen, so I've been into a lot of korean, japanese, a lot of chinese films, um, a lot of thailand films. It's just so much of that, and you'd be surprised hearing the music and the incorporation that's there. So it's like it's one of those ones like I'm waiting to see what comes next, like I do want a sequel. I want a sequel, so bad.
Speaker 2:I get it. I want a sequel just as well. I also saw that this movie also took a lot of inspiration to other movies that are kind of similar. I think one is Queen and Hyunsman. This was kind of similar. I think one is Queen and Hyunsman. This was kind of the similar thing going on. I may be wrong, yell at me if that's the case, but there's a lot of K-dramas that were just like K-pop Demon Hunters. So that trope is really there with the whole they don't kiss, the demon dies. They never come back.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because the kissing is also a purity thing. That's still a very big thing into it, like killing when you do share a kiss. That is that like giving of your purity, giving of yourself, type of thing. So it's kind of a big thing into that. Kissing is only for like you're actually in, like this animation, even when, just like dating, when it comes down for a lot of, a lot of asian culture movies, you don't see them kiss like that at all. Like when they do is usually like okay, we're about there's like towards the end of the series or they're about to get married, otherwise, yeah, you know, like never see it.
Speaker 2:The curtain falls down and all you can see is their heads come together. Yep, that's it, beautiful.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and this is all you need to see. You don't need to see nothing else. Get out of here y'all dirty minded.
Speaker 2:Or you see the hands fold in with each other and it fades into black.
Speaker 1:Fades black. Yes, oh gosh, but yeah. So that's what I mean. Otherwise, I can't really think there's too much more because, like I know we've talked about it, like there's so much more that we wish they dove into with this movie, but other than that, there's not much there. There isn't much there. The most popular thing going right now is how many people are. What I've seen on YouTube is dressing up as the Saja Boys when they were doing Soda Pop and just kind of recreating their dance numbers.
Speaker 1:I know that's been popular on TikTok and on YouTube and Instagram. It's crazy. Otherwise, I mean, it's still retaining top. A lot of people still go back and watch the movie because it's just fun, like it's just a nice enjoyable movie to go through. Um, but yeah, I got my wife to watch it because I watched it and I was like you gotta watch this, you're gonna enjoy it. And she was like, and my wife like she predicts things so early on in movies. It's hilarious. It's also could be a fury sometimes. And she's like at the beginning of the movie she automatically knew she was like so I'm going to guess that one of them is either a demon or one of them is hiding some type of special secret or something about demons and watch and I'm sitting here like she says you haven't seen the movie. She's this is my first time watching it and I'm like well, thankfully the twist doesn't come until later on. It actually comes like in the next two minutes and she's like see I knew it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my husband did the same exact thing. He goes that one's a demon and I'm like thanks, babe, I already watched it, but you got it.
Speaker 1:It's so mad. Even if you know it, just keep it to yourself. Just be quiet. Even if you know it, just keep it to yourself.
Speaker 2:Just be quiet, watch the movie.
Speaker 1:Please you just do it. I mean it makes sense when you think about all the little details into it. I'm like I get that. Just stop Enjoy the movie.
Speaker 2:You don't do this at Marvel movies. I don't do this at Marvel movies. Even though I know it's coming next, you shut up.
Speaker 1:That part. I will say the only thing is because we kept focused so much on that plot twist of Rumi being half demon that we didn't focus as much onto the fact that the twist was Jinwoo actually abandoned his mom and his sister Because the way he set up that story as being that he made the deal wound up losing them because the seal kept spreading and stuff and then eventually he was in the demon world. It was so believable because we see the worst of demons that we don't focus on that. A lot of those times, especially in a lot of Asian cultures, demons take the worst of humanity. It's usually not so much like, oh, this demon made me do this.
Speaker 1:No, you were already inherently having that evil thoughts in you anyway, it just gave you a little bit of a nudge, and you see that in a lot of religious cultures that's a big thing too. It's like, oh, the demons made me do this, or the devil made me do this. But then when you really dive into it, no, you had the thoughts. You just chose to go through it, through with it. Yeah, that's just what it was. And so that little twist in the end of him abandoning, I will say that would call her by surprise, because it was very, we believe, the fact that he was manipulated into this aspect, not realizing no, this is his own punishment and then going back and watching it the second time, even the third time I watched it. I've watched it three times. So I know you said you bumped the soundtrack.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've watched the movie three times already don't look at me, jeremy, don't, don't look at me. I'm gonna itch my head and look away because of how many times I've watched this stupid movie. It is so good for no reason it just is.
Speaker 1:Look, because I have this whole theory for me anyway. Anytime I watch a movie first time once for enjoyment, second for analysis whenever I do a podcast. So the thing about it is that I enjoyed the second movie so much I forgot to analyze it. So I went to watch it a third time to analyze it and many of y'all are going to say that's an excuse to say you enjoyed the movie and I'm not going to say I didn't enjoy the movie. I enjoyed the movie. I'm not going to say I didn't enjoy the movie, I did. That's why I'm saying the second time I watched it I just went back just enjoying it again and forgot to analyze it. I had to go back with the mindset to analyze it so I could do a proper podcast on it.
Speaker 2:You bring the notebook out, you sit down, you go to watch it. Movie ends, you look down at your notebook.
Speaker 1:Not thing on it, gotta watch it again that part you just get like it's one of those ones that I know um, they get mad at me sometimes, like you always have your phone out during the movie. I'm like, if you look at my phone, you'll notice I'm not playing any games or anything. What I am doing is I have my notepad up and I'm taking notes as I'm watching the movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I do that all the time I did that when I did the review on the Fullmetal Alchemist movies. I was sitting here just making notes on my phone about different stuff. Now I don't have to pause, I can just type it up as I go along. That way I can keep notes of what's happened, keeping track of what I didn't like, what I disliked and things like that. Yeah, for this movie, no matter what the list I went down was just I need more death. That's the main thing, is I want more death in these characters. And I understand it's like well, it's a kids movie. No, it fit into a kids movie because of just the popularity into it. It was popping, it was fun, the music was good and all that type of stuff. But realistically, no, you didn't make this for kids.
Speaker 2:You made this for me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you made. You didn't make this for kids, you made this for me. Yeah, you made this for me. That's what you did. I'm watching and now you got our attention. You got us. So now we need more death. Let's go give us more of them. Characters, we need to make it happen.
Speaker 2:Sequel or series exactly.
Speaker 1:We will watch it, just like Jackie Chan Adventures Missed that show, anyway.
Speaker 1:Now one last thing before I wind up leaving off. There is one last theory that I wanted to talk about Unless you have any more, please definitely let us know Is the theory of Jinwoo's family. So we understand the truth about that, and I caught it the second time and third time watching it was at the very beginning. When the demon hunters show up, they immediately show up right when they're protecting this little girl, and the little girl calls out to her mommy, and so a lot of people wind up doing the comparisons and when you look at it, it's crazy how the mommy and daughter look almost exactly the same as Jinwoo's mom and sister. And so there's that theory of like that, 400 years ago that he wound up leaving his family, wound up being the biggest thing to help spark the home moon being created, was wound up being specifically because of his family wound up being there was kind of just the biggest thing to help spark the home moon being created was wind up being specifically because of his family.
Speaker 1:Wind up being there was kind of just the biggest thing that allowed them to help create that portion of the whole moon, that portion of the whole moon there, or just create it there and it becomes a whole theory also of that site where the whole moon was created at was why it is that the girls were so big and implementing so heavily on the fact that the whole moon has to turn golden during the idol concert, because the idol concert would have been right above, right at the top, where the um, the whole moon was originally created.
Speaker 1:But then it kind of hit a weird theory because it looked like the family that they say it started homo was on the valley versus where the movie ends off at. We wound up ending with the final song them on top of a mountain per se, on top of a giant, but not really amounts of a hill but kind of amounts in any way overlooking the city. So I was like if the theory felt kind of like a stretch a little bit, but still going into the fact of just like the girl, the girl and her mom looking exactly like sister and mom was a very interesting theory. What do you have on that one?
Speaker 2:yeah, I saw that theory. Um, they did look really similar to me the whole um where the tree is. When selene is braiding um roomie's hair, I think that where that tree is. I think that's where the honeymoon started.
Speaker 2:Um, yeah, I could see that but I I really like your theory, I like other people's theories where the whole, where that girl and that mom Is the sibling, because they do look, that girl, does just look like Jinu In the flashback. I also like to think that that whole, the first generation of hunters I think they were trying to lure it To the fact that Jinu's sister Also became a hunter After that generation, because it just goes fast forwards Into you have the first generation. I think it goes right into, like the 1920s. It doesn't show anything In between those. So I like to believe that J New Sister also became A hunter After that first generation.
Speaker 1:That would be dope. I would definitely like seeing that, okay. So yeah, I mean like seeing like a history of the hunters, like you can make this, you can make a sequel, sequel movie to like either sequel or prequel, I guess, to getting more depth into what happened, as far as roomie's, like actual parents, um saline, getting more understanding of what happened, like with the movie into it or even just like a sequel dream was still possibly still being alive. But whatever the case may be, I don't know or stick with how most korean movies are that I've seen. They kill a person. They're actually dead, but I don't know.
Speaker 1:There's just so many different things that we could probably deal into it. And then, as far as the series, the series would be fantastic. Being able to see all the other demon huntresses and them kind of like continue on the generation that catches up, like that would be a fantastic series in itself. Um focusing maybe even like just each season, um being on what that generation of hunters and as it passes down to the next generation and the journeys that they kind of go through to help maintain the home wound, because clearly Selene, one of her biggest things was pushing into how strict they are is you have to hide your emotions.
Speaker 1:You have to hide your emotions so that way you can be strong and clearly. That had to start somewhere. That had to start somewhere and that might actually be an issue throughout the hunters, or that might have just been Celine's generation. Maybe Celine had an issue with that.
Speaker 1:Maybe um, or even Rumi's mom there might even be a case of, like Rumi's mom had issues of controlling her emotions or frustrations and it wound up causing a particular issue as to why it is that um, he was so heavy set on with these, with the huntrix, because it's not just like his hate for the hunters but something about them. He's been kind of like more in tune to trying to really take them down per se because of how things probably were with roomie's mom, and that would even add on to your theory that you had mentioned as far as about the fact that um, he could be her dad like, if that is actually the case. So there's a lot of key factors that we can really dive into and I'm just curious to see what may happen. So please give us a sequel at this point.
Speaker 2:We are, we are begging, we are on our knees and we are begging for the sequel.
Speaker 1:It's still number two in movies on Netflix right now.
Speaker 2:And it's number one in my heart.
Speaker 1:Exactly. Clearly we want it. So take advantage, netflix, give them the money, let's do it. Let's get the ball rolling, like this is make this happen. So, but that's all that I kind of have into it. Is there anything that you want to still talk about before we end off on this movie?
Speaker 2:no, not really. I think we covered all of the things that I wanted to talk about. Oh wait, hold on the ending. When, um, the hunters go out and they go see their fans first off, want to say we pay a lot of money to go see their fans first off, I want to say we pay a lot of money to go see our fans, so those girls being able to touch their favorite artist on the street is wild yes, bruh, before then they were always in like covering.
Speaker 1:They always had to cover themselves. We got to put our hat on, we gotta cover up here, and stuff like that. Our fans can't see us. We have to blend in. So at the very end they're just like you know what. We're taking a break anyway.
Speaker 2:Who cares, we'll just walk out as we are again the fact that those girls can touch their fan, their favorite singer, on the street, not having to pay anything and I gotta go pay almost a grand to go meet my favorite star kudos to them. That's wild. I also like to think of one little small theory that the girls that they met at the end of the movie might be the next they're gonna be the next.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, I would definitely. I feel a lot of people really thought about that and I saw it too, because we see this happen so many movies. They have this all the time. It's like you meet them and then all of a sudden, like later on they probably do like tryouts or something to see who's going to be next singers, and they're like oh yeah, your singing voice is amazing. But not only is your singing voice amazing, we can see your souls resonating very well with people and you are the perfect next Hunter Instead of Universe Ticket you are the perfect next hunter.
Speaker 2:Instead of universe ticket, it's hunter's ticket.
Speaker 1:Oh, that would be amazing just, but then also imagine that. Imagine the training process like. Imagine how that training process would go, all of a sudden being like uh, so we signed up just to be pop stars. I did not know that we was going to be actually hunting demons here's a sword.
Speaker 2:Figure your life out. Some 16 year old girl holding a sword, like I wanted to sing.
Speaker 1:You're singing with a sword you do have to sing also. So can we just go and swipe? You can, but if you don't sing and resonate your soul, it doesn't actually power it. That much music is like the power of this world type thing. It's like seriously, yeah, yeah, it's the power of our souls.
Speaker 1:I'm finna mess with my wife too, cause one of the things that she loves is the the boy and the beast, I think is what it's called, and like. One of her favorite lines is that she loves is the boy and the. What is it the boy and the beast, I think is what it's called, and like. One of her favorite lines that she would always mess with me about was like you take the sword that's in your soul and I'm just like I'm just going to go mess with her about this. It's like it also is understanding yes, this is your soul resonant sword and you sing to activate and only people who can sing can activate. If you can't sing, you're out of luck. Like that's pretty messed up. It was like happy feet all over again. All of a sudden I can't sing, so now I can't be part of the group, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:I mean, it works perfect for a musical. If you don't sing, you can't do nothing. That's just how it works.
Speaker 2:Happy Feet is just the hunters in Antarctica.
Speaker 1:That would be so hilarious.
Speaker 2:They protect the honeymoon by smacking their feet Against the snow.
Speaker 1:Oh, oh, my god, everybody else gotta sing. Oh man, that was just Hilarious, I don't even want to think about that.
Speaker 2:I wanted that out of my head now. I should have never said anything, because that's all I can think about it's another fan theory.
Speaker 1:It's spoiling. Go ahead, write the fanfic.
Speaker 2:I was about to say that fanfictions do your worst.
Speaker 1:Oh gosh, but that is all that we got. Fanfic is already there. I was about to say that Fanfictions do your worst. Oh gosh, that is all that we got. Excellent movie all the way through. I absolutely love it. I've watched it three times. I'm definitely going to watch it a fourth time because one of my kids hasn't seen it yet and he's like on the fence. He's like I'm not sure if I want to see it or not because, I'll be honest, he is one of those kids that's like I'm not really interested because it seems like a girl movie and I'm sitting here like dude. It's not that I promise you, it's not that You're going to enjoy the movie. Just go ahead and watch it. I said I'll watch it with you. Have you already seen it?
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