Thunderbolts: Dark Humor and Unexpected Redemption

Thunderbolts delivers a perfect blend of humor, action and unexpected emotional depth as Marvel's most damaged antiheroes find purpose together against impossible odds.

• Initial impressions rate the movie 9/10, with its charm, humor and relatable character moments standing out
• CIA Director Valentina manipulates the team into a deadly mission to cover up her illegal operations
• The team includes Yelena, Bucky Barnes, US Agent, Red Guardian, Ghost, and Taskmaster
• Bob/Sentry serves as the team's most powerful and vulnerable member with his destructive alter-ego "The Void"
• The film explores trauma, substance abuse, and feeling stuck in life through its damaged characters
• Valentina rebrands them as "The New Avengers" after they successfully defeat the Void
• A post-credits scene connects to the upcoming Fantastic Four movie and the broader MCU future
• Florence Pugh's Yelena steals scenes with both humor and vulnerability
• Sebastian Stan's Bucky transforms from Terminator-like enforcer to reluctant but effective team leader
• The final confrontation focuses on emotional healing rather than typical superhero action sequences

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Chapters

• 0:00 Initial Impressions of Thunderbolts
• 1:40 Spoiler Territory: Plot Breakdown
• 6:27 Bucky's Entrance and Team Dynamics
• 9:04 Character Development and Comedy
• 15:42 Trauma, Vulnerability, and Finding Purpose
• 21:48 Fantastic Four Teaser and MCU Future
• 30:36 Taskmaster Controversy and Final Thoughts

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:01

the thunderbolts. What can I say? What can I say? It was kind of funny, charming in a way, kind of soulful, like oddly relatable in a way. If I could give her a rating right now, I would say it's a nine out of 10. Like it's a A it's like, yeah, because there's one thing that I didn't like. There is an explanation, but I don't want to spoil anything yet Because I understand that there's a lot of people that probably didn't watch the Thunderbolts. They probably want to go ahead and try to watch it whenever they can, but they just don't want to be spoiled. So while we give you time to click away from the episode, I don't blame you. Steppy Phantom, without spoiling the movie. How are you feeling about the Thunderbolts?

Speaker 2: 1:06

This movie was, I want to say a 10 out of 10, but that's just for Bucky, but for the entire movie I'd have to agree with you. It's a 9 out of 10 for me. I thought it was funny, relatable, like you said. Just there are some parts that creep me out a little bit, but overall I thought it was actually a pretty solid movie.

Speaker 1: 1:25

Oh yeah, oh yeah, all right, we're gonna go ahead and dive right into the plot and everything. So we're gonna get into spoiler territory. So let's just go ahead and dive in, and if you're still with us, then well, you've been warned. So as c as CIA Director, valentina Aguilera de Fontaine faced imminent impeachment due to the series of illegal operations she had Elena Belova, john Walker, aka US Agent Ghost and Taskmaster to go on this covert facility under the guise of a mission. But once on site, the operatives find themselves pitted against each other in a deadly confrontation. This mess can stand us, if you will, culminating in ghost ending up killing taskmaster, before a mysterious man named bob unexpectedly showed up and upon that, defontaine intended for them to be incinerated, along with any evidence of her misconduct. The group managed to escape and Bob distracted DeFontaine's forces, drawing their fire without sustaining injury, allowing the rest of the gang to flee. So, following this, bob was sent into the air before a crash landing back into the compound.

Speaker 1: 2:45

Meanwhile Alexei Shostakov, the Red Guardian, who overheard the details of Dave Fontaine's scheme while working as a freelance chauffeur because he had a limo service going on, it was kind of funny. And he comes to the aid of Yelena and the gang, and it was kind of cute the way he did it too, yelena and the gang, and it was kind of cute the way he did it too, like you. They were in the desert right and they saw this limo coming. Well, ghost and Walker was like what the hell was that? And then Yelena was sitting like oh no, not him. And it was like Yelelena, honey, I'm here. And it was like you know how that dad that you know he didn't do the best job as a father but he's trying and you have that daughter. That's like, oh God, dad, stop embarrassing me in front of my new friends.

Speaker 1: 3:43

But as soon as he get to them he tried to explain the situation, but you know, they already know it kind of piece together based on what happened, and that's when Dave Fontaine and her men were trying to kill them, you know, like trying to finish the job. But ultimately you have our boy, bucky Barnes, aka the Winter Soldier, showing up like the fucking Terminator to just eliminate those cars and then, just when you thought, ohy came to save us and then he just shoots that down a little bit. Oh no, what's going on here? So he ends up capturing all of them and explaining that, hey yo, so check this out, like we. I need you to come in to testify on these impeachment proceedings because you know, congressman, you know we've got to do it like officially, like lawfully.

Speaker 1: 4:48

And upon learning that bob was a subject of one of dave fontaine's secret uh experiments, the golden century program, which is like the super soldier serum program, but his doses was 100 000 times more potent and a lot of people died during that experiment, but he's the one that survived. So he's a interesting case. But the funny thing about bob is that he have his mental conditions like I don't want to say issue. You know like not try to like say like something wrong with him. Like you know he's wired differently and the thing with Sentry is that he's like invincible, like they really downplayed his powers for this film because he has way more going on. But you know, for time being you know he's like a super strong superman and the other side is the void where he can just turn things into shadows and whatnot. So I'm gonna get to you in just a moment.

Speaker 1: 6:03

But essentially the Thunderbolts were pursued and they basically escaped, but together they banded together calling themselves the Thunderbolts, based on Yelena's childhood soccer team, and they tried to confront Valentina and they ended to confront on Valentina and they end up fighting with Century and Century. Just do quick work with them. Like it was really cool. And but oh god, like that'd be quick question have you watched the boys?

Speaker 2: 6:42

I have not. However, I'm supposed to be starting it with my husband gotcha, okay.

Speaker 1: 6:48

Well, you will find out really soon that once you watch the boys, because we're gonna do a review on the boys in 2027, because, well, no, next year, because Gen V season two comes out this year, final season of the boys come out next year. Okay, so next year we're doing, uh, a final review on boys. But in season one you're gonna find that real quick where I'm talking about, to where, between century and valentina, people can tell that there is like a parallel between homelander and Madeline Stilwell and just to paint a picture, imagine this super powerful hero in like a mother figure of sorts and like the boys kind of take it to a different level. But when you watch the thunderbolts before I mean not before after watching the boys, you're thinking, oh lord, it's like homelander, madeline, all over again. But they did it better, not better, but more, like they condensed a season's worth of events into five minutes. But I'm keeping it moving.

Speaker 1: 8:10

So oh yeah, did I mention that ever since? What was it back at like Age of Ultron or some other, where essentially Valentina bought the, the former avengers tower and renamed it the watch tower, and mel, the assistant, who had like conflictions on working with valentina, tried to neutralize century? And I thought it was kind of funny how valentina was like good girl, you finally know your place. And I said if I was male, I'll let hold on first of all, like if this business relationship is gonna work, you're not gonna tell me, good girl, like I'm a fucking dog okay uh, but by trying to incapacitate him it turns on a failsafe kill switch.

Speaker 1: 9:02

Um, that triggers um centuries destructive alter ego, the void that started uh, converting everyone nearby into shadows, developing new york city into supernatural darkness. And recognizing that their only hope lies within bob's mind, elena goes into the shadow dimension to reach his consciousness. There was this whole thing about confronting by painful memories and past traumas, and she ultimately finds bob, who was lost and consumed by his own fear, and her teammates join her. Um, helping bob kind of like. Kind of like a therapy session. You know like, if you watch echo, it's kind of funny how, um, these final confrontations is more like a therapy session. But I'm not complaining about that. Honestly, it is what it is. Between Century giving them the work Not too long ago and also that whole Mexican stand up, I'm like, eh, you know what? We got plenty of action in the Front end of the movie, so, eh, I didn't mind it too much. So, essentially, they help Bob vanquish the void innocence, bringing normalcy back into the city and, with the threat neutralized, the Thunderbolts prepare to apprehend Valentina, but she manipulates the public perception by staging this press conference to rebrand them as the New Avengers. And in this post-credits scene, the New Avengers, along with Bob, receive this distress signal from space, revealing this enormous spacecraft with a large four on it, which we know is the Fantastic Four.

Speaker 1: 10:44

Now, this movie has this humorous and charming quality, like I said before, a soulful undertone, where it's like they have this strong sense of camaraderie, like everybody got jokes in this fucking movie, how, like with the taco and cucumber, you know if you, if you've seen the movie, you know it was really funny in that aspect. Everybody's trying to reconcile with the past process, trauma, grappling with substance abuse, between Bob being on meth and Yelena being an alcoholic. Although Bucky was positioned as the fact the leader of the New Avengers, it was more evident that it was the Yelena Belova show, where it was supported by Bucky, red Guardian, ghost and Century, and with Century evoking comparisons with Homelander, like I said before, and oh, mel, I think she was supposed to be Songbird. But either they're not going that direction yet or they just thought yeah, you know she's a normal chick, but I do thought it was funny how, with the whole thing about renaming them the New Avengers, yelena whispered to Valentino like we own you now. Tina was like we own you now, like I don't know Something about Florence Pugh.

Speaker 1: 12:10

That's like charming in a way. Every time she shows up at your lane I'm just hoping that she does something like kind of funny in a way. Oh yeah, mel, I kind of recognize her from that one movie, the Package on Netflix. If you have seen it, good on you for knowing that. Uh, if you haven't seen it, you're not really missing much. But uh, it was kind of a thing um, like 10 years ago. But overall, very solid movie. I will certainly watch it again on disney plus soon. It's available for streaming now. Sebi, I'm sorry, I kind of went on about A whole plot, but I just kind of want to Paint the whole context. But uh, now, with Giving spoilers, let's get your full, unfiltered opinion on this movie.

Speaker 2: 13:04

Okay, like you said, this movie was hilarious. I was laughing majority of this movie. Everybody was so sassy, like for no reason.

Speaker 1: 13:16

Oh, you like that? I was like oh you, you think that's cool. Like what did you think that's cool? I don't know I'm like bro, like y'all just really fucking with that man, like making him insecure about something.

Speaker 2: 13:30

Exactly Val seeing that group when, like they all came together in the watchtower and she looks at Walker like, oh, the junior varsity. Captain America, I lost it.

Speaker 1: 13:43

I like how he was like oh okay, we do it.

Speaker 2: 13:50

It's like we put the gun down, walker, no Down boy, put the gun away. And then calling Red Guardian, old Santa, like hello, I was done. That scene like had me out of my chair Like I was crying, yeah, that whole thing.

Speaker 1: 14:06

And then the part where the red guardian, he's like so excited, he's got brands, he's got, he's got a box of wheaties he's at the supermarket, yeah, the supermarket scenes where, like the lady and he was like hey, uh, look at the new avengers, like those are nice cars right there, and then he's holding down that box like do you recognize us? It's me on that box she's not feeling you at all. She don't know who you are.

Speaker 2: 14:35

She takes the box and now she's going down the hall.

Speaker 1: 14:37

He just puts it on an end cap and runs and I'm like okay but hey, yo, you did bring up a good point about how, like this movie almost made me want to get a drink because, like, especially that one part with you know, like I'm going to name like a couple examples where it was like okay. With Ghost, her whole thing, like if you've seen Ant-Man and the Wasp, you know her whole story and she was like trying to grapple with, trying to like have a physical body, because she was like literally tearing apart, like in a scientific way. And with walker, of course, if you've seen falcon and soldier, you already know his deal. Like he fell from grace but he's trying to redeem himself and he's like fairly likable In this movie. I mean, he was alright, he was set up to be unlikable in Falcon and Soldier but he served his purpose In that show.

Speaker 1: 15:38

And in this movie I'm like he's just genuinely likable, like, yeah, he had the jokes and all that too. Now, who else? I wanna Bucky likable like yeah, like he had the jokes and all that too. Now, who else? Uh, I wanna bucky. Uh, okay, bucky, I do like his character development because if you followed him ever since winter soldier and civil war and all that, like yeah, like he's really trying to come on his own as being a good guy that's redeeming himself, becoming the leader leader of the new Avengers with a Z.

Speaker 1: 16:10

Don't forget Avengers with a Z like washing his arm and it kind of felt like when you watch winter soldier. It's like having that one boss character that you uh confronting and then you fast forward to thunderbolts is like now when he's on the team and he's like getting food all over his papers and shit. I like good lord bucky, I mean you're still like, well, I'm just like they're trying to make you into a comedic character. But oh ooh, the desert scene where, like I said, he was like Terminator style, where he's like, uh, cocking that.

Speaker 2: 16:57

That gun, that everything that was.

Speaker 1: 17:00

Yeah, and the way he would like grab that chain like uh, into the ground, I was like hell yeah.

Speaker 2: 17:08

That's my boy.

Speaker 1: 17:11

And, ooh, I do like how he was like able to reflect that car with his middle arm. It was like flying at those people Like uh, let me just tank that shit.

Speaker 2: 17:23

I think that's another part of the reason why I like the movie is that there are so many series and different like shorts and such. That brought this movie. You have Ant-Man, you've got, uh, winter Soldier and the Falcon that series, so we got to see a lot of different things together. Um, you kind of have to watch those. I mean, you don't have to, but they kind of tie everything in together so you can watch Thunderbolts. Um, the part that scared me the most was that void, oh my gosh, that gave me nightmares. The eyes, just the eyes, are just a vision in my head. Like I closed my eyes and there they are and the shadow people look. He gave me the stanis vibes for easy enough.

Speaker 1: 18:02

I it's not uh much of a nitpick, but I was like thinking I kind of wish it was like a little bit more detailing to the boys, uh looks, where I felt like it was a little dark, like almost like you can barely tell what his um suit looks like and shit. So where I'm like I just kind of wish it was like a little more like a more matte black instead of like what they were going for like if it was like a matte black, then like, okay, it's easier to see the details and shit.

Speaker 1: 18:30

Okay, cool, cool, cool. Yelena Ooh, I love, like I said before, every time she shows up I love her performance, but in this one it was her more vulnerable side. Like I said that in Black Widow we got a balance of her being funny and vulnerable. In Hawkeye we got the more funny side. Like she was like straight up hilarious in Hawkeye. But in Thunderbolts we saw the more vulnerable side to where she was telling Red Guardian how, like man, my life's just in a rut right now.

Speaker 1: 19:12

I just to work, then I come home, then I zoom scroll on my phone and I drink and I sleep and then I wake up and do all this shit all over again. I'm like, fuck, I relate to that shit. I like you just feel like at some point in adulthood you just feel like you're just doing the same every day and just like wondering I need to fight? Like, is this, is this my life? Like I need to file, I need to get me some business. Okay, I'm not saying that personally, but it was kind of like that years ago for me, but nowadays you know me leading the zone doing my thing, um, building up the shop at zonalinescom. I come gonna add some miniatures and whatnot. You know I gotta do that, some chains plugging, because I'm just feeling really good about it. But point being is that, just like with the movie, like you just gotta find your purpose and I find like something that you're calling in a sense, and I found mine, and I'm, like you know what, I feel good, a little good about myself, like I'm not out of the woods, but at least I'm not so depressed to a point to where I feel like there's no point to life, like I got me some business, I got me something that I want to commit to in the long haul.

Speaker 1: 20:22

So I do relate to the messaging of the film, um, especially with bob, where it just seemed like he was saying that sometimes we just be in this rut, like we just trying to fill this void, so to speak, and I'm like damn, I feel that because, like, if, if you don't got no business, like you're just gonna be constantly trying to like see in many ways, like whether it's sleeping with multiple people, drinking, uh, drug abuse, whatever you're doing to just fill a void in your life to where it's like there's just something missing that not giving me that dopamine hit. You know what I'm saying. And it's crazy like people were expecting it to be like super dark. But I'm like I kind of appreciate the fact that they tried to do the whole avengers um.

Speaker 1: 21:28

The fact that they tried to do the whole avengers um routes where, okay, yeah, they did like butt heads but ultimately they bonded to a point to where they get along and come on like if they're going to be a team, they gotta like work, uh, like each other enough to like work together. You know what I'm saying. So I did like the little couple oh let me fast forward.

Speaker 1: 21:44

I'm not fast forward, not fast forward. Rewind back to the Mexican standoff when Bob, when he was like, first met Walker and he was like hey, you're, aren't you, captain America? And I'm like I mean, I was like you can't be because You're an asshole.

Speaker 2: 22:12

Bob was definitely a character. I think my favorite line that he did was at the end. And Bob is just sitting in the corner and they're all talking about we did this, we did this, and then he goes. Well, I did the dishes.

Speaker 1: 22:25

Yeah, I mean, you know, hey, you know, sometimes here don't wear capes, sometimes they just wash the dishes, but not for real though, like with bob, he's kind of like their hulk oh, that one meme that's lit to you um earlier. Yeah, like, oh, I have an army now like we have a century, but that's just the thing. It's like century, it's like their version of the whole. To where, like, he should be only utilized and dire situations like okay, like things are looking bad. We kind of need the century involved. And I'm like, okay, what are you gonna do about the void? I we'll worry about the void when he shows up. We need the sentry. Now it was kind of like that to where, like oh, at first here's the funny thing At first, the first act of the film I was thinking so what are they? Some sort of suicide squad?

Speaker 2: 23:30

Oh, I said the same exact thing to my friend. I'm like this is just a suicide squad in Marvel form. Yeah, Suicide Squad in Marvel form.

Speaker 1: 23:35

Yeah, it's kind of funny because, like they were like sent there to kill each other, but in actuality it's like they're a team that banded together to go up against a threat that they probably not gonna survive. But you know, in a way they managed to survive. You know, like helping Bob get over his own trauma. But, yeah, it started out being like the suicide squad. Then it started to feel like the avengers, but, uh, I was thinking it was like something else that was involved. Uh, it was like, oh, yeah, the boys, because you know the whole homelander slash metal still, okay, yeah, I, yeah, I already mentioned that. Alright. So, yeah, I was thinking like this movie feels like Suicide Squad meets the Avengers, meets the Boys, and I was like what yeah?

Speaker 1: 24:29

Yeah, oh, oh, buckle up, because it gets graphic. Graphic doesn't bother me oh cool, all right, cool, just being fair.

Speaker 2: 24:44

I need that jacket. Alexi was wearing the red NASCAR jacket. I need that jacket.

Speaker 1: 24:50

Bro, I wouldn't be surprised if that was like oh yeah, like you can now buy it on whatever side. Like like the disney store, like, oh yeah, you can just buy the avengers with a z jacket.

Speaker 2: 25:01

I'm like, oh bro, I would rock that I would say I would rock that out whole outfit.

Speaker 1: 25:08

Oh my gosh, I would be fit in that, yeah yeah, I would show up to the fucking uh avengers doomsday wearing that jacket. I was like, oh, hell, yeah, let's get into it.

Speaker 2: 25:22

Avengers with the Z.

Speaker 1: 25:23

Just show up to the movie theater and be like so what movie you gonna see? Sir, I'm like. You see my trip bro. You know what I'm here for.

Speaker 2: 25:31

It's like those memes oh, four tickets for what again? And they're all dressed up as the characters you know why I'm here, Exactly.

Speaker 1: 25:39

Alright, don't play. You know why I'm here For the most part, that was in a sense all I wanted to say. I did like how they wanted to set up. Oh hold, on the post-credits scene, the second post-credit scene. I did mention that it was the fantastic four since we showing up in the mcu, but that's just a thing. I showed up to the theater wondering because it was like completely unrelated because fantastic four first steps coming out later this year. I was like wondering how are they gonna work the fantastic four into modern day mcu if they're going to be involved In Avengers Doomsday? And then this Movie answers my question.

Speaker 2: 26:23

Yes, I was so Happy to see that nostalgic Like movie scene like First Yelena Yelling this close to her iPad, up to her mouth, to her AI was amazing Into that scene. But I was just so Happy to actually see a nostalgic Next movie scene um to line up for the fantastic four movie hell, yeah, like, so now it's gonna be okay when we watch, uh, fantastic four is we're gonna?

Speaker 1: 26:50

it's gonna be like the boruto treatment to where, like, okay, we already walk into this movie wondering how do they get from here to there, but, uh, unlike the boruto treatment, like actual boruto series, like I'm not complaining in this aspect because, like, we were kind of wondering how that's gonna work anyways. So, uh, we just like how we pretty much got an answer in the thunderbolts, how they ended up in the modern day mcu. So now we need to watch fantastic four to find out why did they shoot themselves into space and got themselves like shot. What was it like? 70 years, because, keep in mind, it's like in the m MCU is like five years ahead of our real time. So 2025 now will be 2030 in MCU time and they were in the 60s, so that's like 70 years.

Speaker 1: 27:51

Yeah, like right around that ballpark. So like, how do they shoot 70 years? Like on some Captain America type shit? How do they get from the 60s to modern day? That's what I want to know now. But, uh, yeah, like, uh, maybe was there anything we missed, like anything you want to talk about?

Speaker 2: 28:13

I think I covered everything. I'm actually trying to find the phases right now. The next movie after the Fantastic Four, that movie, has that been told yet?

Speaker 1: 28:24

Yeah, it should be Doomsday.

Speaker 2: 28:26

It's going to be Doomsday.

Speaker 1: 28:27

Yeah, because once we do Fantastic Four, they're going to do like a couple of TV shows, but the next movie is Doomsday.

Speaker 2: 28:36

It is Doomsday okay.

Speaker 1: 28:41

Because we're doing like Ironheart and eyes will come to add tv shows and, uh, they're like one more. I think they still they kind of working on hawkeye season two. But I don't like how they doing our boy, jeremy renner, dirty to where like, oh, we're gonna only give you half the paycheck we gave you for season one. No, fuck, all that. Like I'm, I respect him from walking away from that because I'm like he still wants to do it. But hey, bro, you need to give him his paper dog. That's all I'm saying. Like that's the thing.

Speaker 1: 29:11

Like they got some TV shows in the mix. But yeah, doomsday should be the next movie after Fantastic Four, because it's supposed to. I'm hoping it's setting up Doctor Doom somewhat being in the mix because, like them being shot into modern day MCU, how does Doctor Doom fit into all this? It's probably gonna be like a post credit scene in Fantastic Four and then, pretty much, like you alluded to, it's gonna be that nostalgic feel to where, alright, we got this set up for the next movie yeah, oh yeah, the Secret Wars.

Speaker 2: 29:55

I don't know what I was thinking. The Secret Wars was probably in that mix too.

Speaker 1: 29:59

Yeah, like that would be. No, no, no, because after Doomsday, then it's Spider-Man, brand New Day, then Secret Wars.

Speaker 2: 30:08

Yeah, there we go.

Speaker 1: 30:10

Because they're scaling it down on movies and TV shows. They're saying they're doing like no more than two or three movies and no more than three TV shows per year. So they're really doing quality over quantity. And it shows in Thunderbolts where I'm like, oh yeah, Like OK, let's go and talk about Taskmaster. What was the point of setting up Taskmaster? Why did you do her dirty like that? What was the point of setting up Taskmaster? Why did you do her dirty like that?

Speaker 1: 30:38

Because we watched her in Black Widow to where I'm like, okay, I'm going to gloss over the fact that they gender-bend Taskmaster, but keep in mind that Taskmaster is like a street-level Avengers type threat to where he will give most street-level heroes like Daredevil and Electra you know the martial arts-based heroes Taskmaster would have gave them the work and it felt like you introduced Taskmaster into Black Widow just to kill her off in Thunderbolts.

Speaker 1: 31:12

And the funny thing is the script writer originally wrote that Taskmaster was supposed to be still part of the team and it was like she was gonna be bonding with ghosts and also there was gonna be like this running gash where she had like this selective amnesia and she forgets that. Um, she's supposed to be like buddy buddy with john walker and she like tried to kill him every now and then, like that was in the original script. But I'm guessing it wouldn't have worked with calling the Thunderbolts the new Avengers, because Taskmaster wasn't supposed to be part of the Avengers. Like it would make more sense for the Thunderbolts but not the Avengers. So like I'm thinking, okay, let's call them the new Avengers, but like do you want taskmaster to be an avenger like?

Speaker 2: 32:00

nah, let's kill off that was wild, that whole boop boop.

Speaker 1: 32:05

Okay, there she goes, she's done I was like uh, she's getting up right. Like is she gonna like? Is it gonna be like a post-credits scene, like what's going on?

Speaker 2: 32:17

like is she? She's lost right.

Speaker 1: 32:18

No, no, no, no, no, she's gone, she's gone I was like kind of hopeful, like what was the point? What was the point including her if you're gonna kill her up? So almost unceremoniously it? It was like have you seen the 2021 Suicide Squad movie Sebi?

Speaker 2: 32:39

Yes.

Speaker 1: 32:41

The way they killed up Boomerang. I'm like, bro, like okay, why? Like it just felt like almost unceremonious. Where, like, did he really had to kill him up? Like, if you're going like Emphasize that, yeah, the Suicide Squad could die, and it's like it's one thing we introduce new characters, but like you brought Boomerang back just to kill him off In the reboot, I'm like that just feels Kind of fucked up, kind of fucked up. But, uh, I did like the 2021 suicide squad movie, not gonna lie, but the 2016 version could never okay. That movie was so fucking sloppy, sebi, it's so fucking sloppy I'm.

Speaker 1: 33:30

We're gonna be reviewing it later on in december, but oh my god, like you can just tell that it was edited to shit and it just did not work.

Speaker 2: 33:44

I've seen both of them and I have to agree with you the first one's the best hmm, the first one was the best in my opinion, I like the first one better. I wasn't a fan of the second one, okay. That was going to be interesting.

Speaker 1: 34:05

When we do the review, I'll see you like a nuanced review, so to speak, but was there anything else you wanted to talk about with Thunderbolts?

Speaker 2: 34:14

No.

Speaker 1: 34:19

Yeah, I'm pretty much tapped now. It was a pretty solid movie. Like you know, I got one more thing.

Speaker 2: 34:27

Bucky for 2026, I will be the best first lady y'all ever have. That's all.

Speaker 1: 34:32

Well, yeah, because he is a congressman, so like, maybe because he got a political background, and like, maybe because you know he got like a political background, and like I mean I know valentina tried to do the whole thing like, oh well, uh, this is not gonna look good for you. Like less than half a term and you're doing all this like you're fucking up. Already. I'm like, nah, nah, you're fucking up, like you know what you did. But, yeah, like 9 out of 10. If it wasn't for that whole Taskmaster shit, it would have been a perfect movie. But uh, let's just go ahead and wrap this up.

Speaker 1: 35:10

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