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Blue Exorcist (Seasons 1-4): From Slow Start to Supernatural Masterpiece
Blue Exorcist transforms from a slow-starting supernatural anime into a gripping tale of family, identity, and the eternal struggle between good and evil across its four seasons. Season 4 delivers shocking revelations about Rin and Yukio's origins that recontextualize the entire series.
• Season 1 introduces Rin Okumura discovering he's Satan's son and enrolling at True Cross Academy to become an exorcist
• Season 2's Kyoto arc focuses on Ryuji's family and the Impure King while exploring trust issues between classmates
• Season 3 delivers a shocking twist with Renzo revealed as an Illuminati double agent during Izumo's kidnapping
• Season 4 explores Yukio's mental breakdown as he seeks answers about his own potential demonic powers
• Flashbacks reveal the complicated history between Shiro, Yuri, and Satan, providing crucial context for the twins' existence
• Character development shines through Shura's curse storyline and the evolution of relationships between characters
• The series brilliantly explores themes of nature versus nurture and whether one's origins determine their destiny
If you haven't watched Blue Exorcist or dropped it after season one, now is the perfect time to experience this supernatural masterpiece that rewards patient viewers with incredible emotional payoffs and character development.
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Blue Exorcist and let me tell you I am so glad I got into Blue Exorcist, or got back into Blue Exorcist at season 4, because, man, it got so good at season 4. But before we talk about season 4, let's go all the way back to season 1. Let's go ahead and talk about how our main character, ren Okumara, finding out that son of satan, uh, enrolling into true crowds academy following the death of his surrogate adoptive father, fujimoto and mephisto fujimoto's friend, is helping ren hide his identity as he tried to fit in trying to become an exorcist. And Mirajane, I am so glad that you're on this review with me. How are you feeling about Blue Exorcist as a whole right now, as?
Speaker 2:a whole, it's my favorite. It's one of my favorite shows. It's a guilty pleasure, though, kind of, because I was watching it before I even knew it was called blue exorcist. I was watching it when it was alley, no exorcist okay, okay so it's definitely. It was one of those animes that, uh, you know when you're watching it on them sites back in the day I mean that's.
Speaker 1:That's the thing. Like I was watching Blue Exodus back in that time where, like back in the early 2010s, where, okay, I didn't want to be one of those basic bitches that only watch like the mainstream shit, I wanted to get on the sites and see some of the other shit. So I'm like, okay, cool, and Blue Exodus is like one of my first ones that I watched when I was going on my journey and I want to say, with season one being that introductory character development type arc, in hindsight I do appreciate it. It felt a little slow. It just felt like, okay, little adventure, little classmates, just having a hee, hee, ha type thing. But, um, it does get serious here and there, but not compared to what we're gonna get into later.
Speaker 2:But I think like, uh, as a whole, it did such a good job of keeping my interest, like, while it felt slow, the pace was like just enough to like, it paced itself pretty well. Season one definitely did, but we ain't gonna talk about season two.
Speaker 1:I mean, we kind of have to, but we'll get there. Okay, thanks. But uh, ren, he needs to make friends with the other X-Wires at the cram school while training with them. And during this training, this camping trip, amayamon, one of the eight demon kings, the king of earth, specifically attacks the group. Ren has no choice but to reveal his secret as Satan's son in order to defeat Amayamon, and Ren ended up getting captured by Arthur, who's the current paladin of True Cross or the Order, and brought him in front of the gregory. Now mephisto was making a wager with the true cross order to see if ram has what it takes to become mancow's graded line of defense against satan. Now my whole thing is here's. Here's the crazy part. Once you get to like episode 16, 17, you can just skip all that.
Speaker 1:Bro, Okay, okay.
Speaker 2:See, that's.
Speaker 1:I did watch it anyways, but in hindsight I'm like you really could skip episodes 17, 18 through 25 of season one and essentially seasons two through four. Stretches out what those episodes try to do, but it's more faithful to the manga. Yeah, it pulled a full-length Alchemist Brotherhood in that aspect to where, like okay, this pocket of pesos. You can pretend that didn't happen, it never happened.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, okay, okay. I got beef. Okay, I got plenty beef with this. The reason I got beef is because I watched all of this on the streaming site, as you know, right, that's what we had to do back then. Insight as you know, right, that's what we had to do back then. So when I got to episode 25, I was getting ready to go on a cruise. Okay, I is. It is three in the morning. This episode does not drop until 5 am our time. Why do I know that? Because I was obsessed with with. This was the only show at the time that I was like I need to know what's gonna happen. Okay, I need to know everything and I can't leave until I know what's happening. I legit pretended to be sleep to my parents so that way I could watch this drop at 5 am so I wouldn't miss it, and was almost late getting on the cruise ship, just for me to find out years later that I didn't even need to watch it yeah that's my beef, that I'm going ahead.
Speaker 2:I got it out the way. I ain't got nothing else to say. I just I wish there could have been a disclaimer early on in 2011, when they could have just told me then that I didn't need the rest of these episodes okay, cause it was so good even nah, you know what's crazy though?
Speaker 1:I was in the same boat where, as soon as I heard season 2 was coming out, oh shit, they're doing season 2?. Okay, let's check this out. Wait a minute, back that up. Did y'all forget a couple of episodes? No, no, no, check this out, you can forget all of those episodes. Wait, what do you mean?
Speaker 1:I'm like, no see, the thing was those were anime exclusive episodes that you know. We don't know if, um, we're gonna have the budget, whatnot to like really flesh out the um story, right. So we just kind of like packed in the general gist of what's going to happen between season two and season four into these episodes. But but since apparently we got the funds and we got the people that want to really like Blue Exorcist, like hey, yo, you know what, let's just make season two. Put that out there. Like, okay, people still liking Blue Exorcist. Okay, let's put out season three.
Speaker 1:I'm like, okay, they're still digging this. Okay, cool, cool, cool, alright, season four it's getting real thick. And then chances are I'm speculating that season five I don't know when that's going to come out, but we got one more arc after this one, after season four, there's only one more arc in the manga and then it's looking like a 24 episode type thing going on. You know two cores and things Pretty much like season four. They're at the final arc at this point. So before I really get into season two and three, I have to say I love how most of these characters get a little art going on. Some characters get little episodes okay fine, but then you have characters like, say, ryuji having his own arc in Season 2. Season 3 was more focused on Izumo and Renzo. By the way, renzo was like a complete swerve for me.
Speaker 2:Facts.
Speaker 1:Season 4 was more like it was for Shura, yukio, shiro and Ren and Yukio's mother, yuri. And man, god damn, I was just so impressed by season 4. Now, mirror Jane, how were you feeling about season 2? Because you were saying like you felt a little hesitant, a little reserved on talking about season 2. You got some beef with season 2 okay, so I didn't really.
Speaker 2:You got some beef with season two. Okay, so I didn't really care that much for season two. It's just. It just wasn't one of my favorite seasons. I I after having to go back rewatch the first 16 episodes again to pick up for season two, it just didn't give me the exact same energy that season one gave me and it felt really different, really different, and it felt more um. It felt more like a mystery anime than like an adventure anime. It seemed like it kind of split roles a little bit. There was more investigation and more like um and people really despising him right, and with it just felt. It just felt not rushed, it didn't feel rushed at all, it just felt flat. That's how it felt. It felt really flat.
Speaker 1:Yeah, see, that was my problem with well, I almost said that for season three, but season two definitely felt a little flat, almost like it wasn't, like it wasn't there, like it didn't serve a purpose, but it just kind of like. You know, unfortunately it was like the weaker season, I would say. At least with season three, like I said, there was like that swerve with Renzo. That's the only thing that was like oh, wait, shit, hold on. Things are like getting kind of interesting with this plot. But season two, okay, context. So, after failing to recover the left eye of the Empire King, the X-Wires are now sent to Kyoto, which is the Kyoto Empire King arc. They're sent to Kyoto to protect the right eye of the Empire King arc. They're sent to Kyoto to protect the right eye of the Empire King, and in Kyoto they meet Ryuji Sugiro's family and Miyobo Dorani I hope I pronounced them correctly the X-Wire's still coping with learning that Ren is the Satan's son. See, that's the thing. They were like wait, hold on, y'all still coping with Ren. I thought you were a cool back when. Oh, okay, I see I'm pretending that didn't happen. Okay, okay, gotcha. That's what really threw me off right there when they had that conversation on training was, and like Suguro and Ren was like still beefing with each other how can I trust you after what you did to my family? And I'm like, hold on. But anyway, ren tried to attempt to earn their trust back, trying to control his powers. And while trying to make efforts, the left ally gets stolen and the Empire King gets revived and they have to pretty much deal with them. Yeah, like basically just felt like Aftermath of season one plus a mission to where, ok, we got to take care of this, make sure that the impure king don't wreak havoc on humanity. And eventually they're like okay, we're cool, you know.
Speaker 1:So, like I said, with the anime exclusive arc, like what was it like? Five, six episodes that was like three episodes of resolution right there to got Path of Reconciliation. Now we're just pretty much waiting on the while I like to call the Yukio Crash Out and we'll get there when we get to season four. But season three is the Ill illuminati arc. We find out that renzo shima uh, you know that's funny because he kind of reminds me of oroku in a way, you know, like this lecherous monk type character and come and come to find out that he's part of the Illuminati and Kamiki Wolf chick. She gets kidnapped and the X-Wire tries to save her from the Illuminati. I See it's kind of funny things.
Speaker 1:Like it's crazy how at first you're thinking with these characters. I knew I thought some of them were gonna get neglected, but for the most part these characters serve a purpose in some way, like unfortunately, I would say, between Konakomaru and that one guy, nemu with the puppet. They're the only ones that's like OK, well, they matter, but not that much to the plot in a sense, where, like they either had their own arc or, uh, they like was like really rooted into the story. Like imagine my surprise when, like okay, bad enough that I know I kind of jump into season four, but I can't help it, I need to talk about it. It's bad enough that we already know that ren and yukiya are nephilim, which are essentially like descendants of demon kings, you know, like clones, or maybe they actually made a biological product. You know the same thing with Satan and Yuri, to where they kind of got it on and made the spawn. It's one or the other, right.
Speaker 1:Imagine my surprise when Xiemi, little blonde girl, xiemi, she's from a line of those demons. Uh, what was it Xiemi Haza. I'm trying to remember her name, but essentially like like she's a Nephilim too. I'm like what the fuck? Zero two? I'm like whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on. So you're a clone of Azazel the whole time, bro, good lord. When I got I swear to God. When I got season four, I was like back back, lord drop, and it's twerps and what is going. Swear to God. When I got to season four, I back and back, lord drop and swerves and what is going on. But hold on, let me back it up. Let's back it up to season three. How are you feeling about the Illuminati arc, mirjane?
Speaker 2:This arc is what brought me back. Season two almost lost me. Season three got me.
Speaker 1:I loved.
Speaker 2:I loved Rin in this season, seeing Rin be all tough with the true cross order.
Speaker 2:I love seeing that because, like, at this point it feels like Ren has really settled into who he is, um, and while we understand, he still got kind of some feelings or whatever, but he's like really settling into who he is and I really really freaking love that, um. And then, and especially favorite episode of course in every anime we have to have the goddamn festival episode every god darn time. That festival episode was so cute. Okay, it was so perfect. I loved Renzo. I loved Renzo and Ren trying to ask girls to the dance.
Speaker 1:Oh hey, you know what, speaking of feelings, I like, how, when it came to Ren, yukio and Siemi, it was like it was like a refreshingly good but weird dynamic to where it was like, well, maybe Ren had some feelings for Xiemi, maybe Yukio had some feelings too, but then again it was like, oh no, I don't like her like that. But hey yo, if you want it, you can go ahead and do it. You know, like no, like oh no, I don't like her like that. But hey yo, if you want to date her, you can go ahead and date her. Like no, no, I don't really like her, but hey yo, shoot your side if you want to, bro.
Speaker 1:And then shimmy was like, oh well, I don't know if I I don't know if I will say I want to date either of you, but it was mainly because she was inexperienced with romance. You know, keep in mind, she was like a shy shut in. So it was like, um, hell, izumo had to, um, show up with fucking manga books to teach her about romance. So it was like, okay, to be fair, you're kind of like throwing a brand new experience at her. So I don't blame her for feeling the ways that she felt at the time, I get it. But uh, it was just kind of funny how it was almost like, um, the brothers, um, they really weren't trying to cop lock each other. It was like, hey, yo, you want a date or date.
Speaker 1:Or I'm like no, no, no no but hey, if you want a date, you can go in there like no, I don't know, it's like I like how they like really fuck with each other for real until season four well, season four has a, you know, something ends up happening yeah, like but I loved.
Speaker 2:I think that's what made season three so good is because it's kind of funny. It's kind of funny. It's kind of funny Cause I was watching season. Season three reminds me of what ends up happening in um. This is completely different, but it ends up happening in in wrestling. There's a storyline in wrestling between uh, it was between Adam Cole and um MJF. They're from AEW and MJF is this dude who's like I don't need no friends. And then Adam Cole's like buddy, you need one friend, all right, like I'm gonna show you how to have friends, okay, and they build this haphazard relationship and they're telling this story. And then MJF is known as the asshole. Right, we get the biggest backstabbing moment ever on TV, okay, when Adam Cole turns his back on his new best friend, mjf. Oh my God. So that's what that relationship really reminded me of, like it just wasn't something you expected to really happen, and when it does, you're like it's really fun. So season three is kind of one of my favorite seasons. And then season four broke my heart yeah oh, don't do it.
Speaker 2:Don't do that. Your yeah is more like it sounds like you would not be handing me the tissues while I was sitting there, sobbing, figuring this out, and more like you just be sitting there, being like I fucking knew something was wrong with this nigga the whole time.
Speaker 1:Nah, because listen like no, okay.
Speaker 2:Okay, can we talk about season four, can we?
Speaker 1:Yeah, nah, we gonna go ahead and get into season four, like, because, honestly, season two and three they're good, but, aside from a few swerves, a little little detail and whatnot, like okay, cool, cool, cool, uh. Season four, the main thing I want to talk about, because, hold the fuck on, like, Okay, leaving off where season three left off, right man Yukio's trying to get curious based off his conversation with Lucifer. It's like, oh, you're weak and you don't even know the truth, don't you? And I'm like what the fuck do you mean? What are you trying to say? You know some real Orochimaru type shit. And stay with me now. Stay with me.
Speaker 1:Yukio was starting to tweak, asking Ren, asking Lightning, asking Ryuji, by the way, ryuji, getting rid Of the Mohawk. I'm like you know what. It looks good on him, but it's also a shame Because it just had a very Distinct look for him. He really stood out, but anyways, uh, yukio was like grilling people. Like stood out, but anyways, uh, yukio was like grilling people. Like, hey, yo, like I don't know if I really have Satan's powers or not, and like my eye like it's kind of burning and I'm like what's going on? I'm trying to figure out what's going on and people keep hiding the truth from me, and Ren is fucking pissing me off because he don't even want to know the truth. How the fuck do you not want to know the truth when you are known as the son of Satan? Like, don't you want to? What the fuck is wrong with you?
Speaker 2:Why don't you want to know? Yeah?
Speaker 1:But nah, before we continue with the Yu-Gi-Oh crash, we gotta acknowledge that Shura okay, first of all Shura, since she's 26, I can say this I'll smash. I'll say it, yeah, I'll do it. What can I say? I like the way she's put together.
Speaker 2:Wow Okay.
Speaker 1:But I do like how even she have an arc to where, essentially, she had this deal. Well, her family had this deal with this demon called Hachi Toro or something. Hachiro Toro, that's what it was, but Hachiro for sure. Yeah, you're right, but the implication with this curse, right, I thought it was kind of funny, but also kind of low-key, misogynistic. How the fuck you gonna have like, oh well, I need you to be beautiful Totsuko, because, keep in mind, no matter who it was, he kept referring to them as Totsuko. I'm like, no, I'm not Totsuko, I'm sure. I'm like, whatever it is, your name's Tosuko, it's all like. Your name is Tosuko, it's Shura.
Speaker 2:And they're like what you think, what you mean, your name is Shura. That's not my name.
Speaker 1:Yes, the fuck it is bitch, but now listen, follow me, follow me. I don't like how the implication of the curse was you will die by the time you reach 30. And the implication that you gotta have a kid before you turn 30.
Speaker 2:Do you hear that? Did you hear that? I'm like, oh, I love. What I do love is that Rin was like listen, you, the most independent woman I know. I don't really think that's what you want to do yeah, that's what you want to do. Yeah, that's not. That's not what you really want to do, like let's go beat this nigga up. Let's just go beat his ass. It's alright, we can do it.
Speaker 1:And I also like how Ukyo's like I'm gonna make sure that Shiro gets pregnant and all that. And then you know they break the curse and all that Hachi wrote fucks off, whatever, whatever. And then Shira was like, hey, so all that shit? You said earlier.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm not going to lie to you. I was not expecting that. Now that that that threw me for a hoax.
Speaker 1:I mean, I was just saying shit. No, no, no. You take responsibility for what you said.
Speaker 2:Uh, uh, uh, I'll take it.
Speaker 1:Oh, even though it was like at the Christmas party, like she was kind of joking. She was like oh, you boys are 16 now, y'all practically men, maybe y maybe. I want to see some shit now I think yukio is down.
Speaker 1:I ain't gonna lie, I think I think yukio's ready I'm like, bro, like I would be flying yukio man, like you gonna really let that slide. Come on, dog. Like I mean you already said the shit anyway, so you might as well like listen, at the very least do it for me, do it for the gang, like come on, dog, you need this dub.
Speaker 2:Really, jb, do it for me, do it for me. Do it for yourself. Do it for me. Don't do it for yourself. Do it for me. If you ain't going to do it for yourself, okay.
Speaker 1:Listen, I will feel like I won by encouraging you to do your job.
Speaker 2:Now, that definitely threw me for a loop, but you ain't wrong, this is you. This is yukio's crash all season, so maybe that was part of the crash but now let's okay, okay for real, though.
Speaker 1:So it get into a point to where yukio's trying, basically he's like scaring people and ren is like I don't know what's going on with Yukio. And I'm like, bro, like he already told you what's going on with him and you pretty much told him, hey, yo, I ain't even worried about all that. But he was like kind of in the knob because, as you will see, in part two of season four, he was like kind of running away from an answer that he already knew. But yeah, like it was just kind of funny how Ren was acting like he don't know what's going on with Yukio, even though Yukio already told him what the fuck was going on. But he, you know it's Ren and being Ren, and he was like oh damn, like he was really bugging about that shit. I should have told him about it. You know, I should have like, oh damn, he was really bugging about that shit. I should have talked to him about it, I should have entertained her or something like that.
Speaker 1:But, bro, when it was time to do the thing, it was like some sort of meeting where Mephisto and the rest of the exorcists were super serious. They were trying to oh yeah, it was, was the announce the existence of demons and whatnot, but they weren't really gonna go with that. They would like call them anti-social organisms. That's why I found that funny, but not, but not like uh yukio showing up looking like he was really tweaking out. He was thrilling Mephisto, like you know something, don't you? You need to tell me. I'm like, nah, I don't really feel like it.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:You're just going to have to deal with it. I'm going to have to give a speech, so if you don't mind, yeah. And then he was talking and shit. And then Yu-Gi-Oh was like nah, bro, you ain't gonna just bitch butt me, you're not just gonna ignore me, you're fucking. Shot him in the fucking head. And Shiro saw that from a distance like no, don't do it. I mean, mephisto turned out fine because, you know, demon body, even though it did kind of put him down for a little while. But you know, he survived and Yukio got arrested and what not. It was just kind of crazy because he was tweaking so bad he was willing to shoot Mephisto for not giving him answers. He almost shot Ryuji for that shit.
Speaker 2:I think, but this is what happens when you gaslight somebody.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like how y'all gonna act like nothing's going on, when there's something clearly going on.
Speaker 2:Like clearly he's no longer himself.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's very obvious and it's also very obvious to him. He's experiencing it, and then you're telling him nah, ain't nothing wrong, that's like. That's like telling somebody that you didn't just use the bathroom when they heard you go to the bathroom. Nah, that wasn't me, I heard, I saw you go in the bathroom.
Speaker 1:Wasn't me.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Wasn't me.
Speaker 2:No, no, I'm not doing that, but I caught you on camera? Actually no, that's like earlier, jb Voice Changer.
Speaker 1:Oh right, I don't know what you're talking about.
Speaker 2:You still don't know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:What do you mean? Living daylights, what I'm talking about?
Speaker 2:Oh okay, what do you mean? Air-themed living daylights out of me, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:But, uh, yeah, yukio ended up being arrested and Rin's trying to bust him out with the other ex-wires and even though they were successful, yukio decided to swerve and oh, by the way, renzo was like in the background just a little bit. Like every now and then he would pop up to yukio, be like, hey man, like I told you, bro, like if you try to seek counsel, you're going to the wrong people. For that you know, uh, for that I keep trying to tell you you're doing dumb shit, dog. It's funny how he's being all laid back and whatnot, almost like he's acting like we don't know that you're Illuminati's spot, we know you're a double agent, but he's playing it off like nothing changed. But every now and then, like he'll approach Yu-Gi-Oh, almost like oh, yeah, like it's time to get serious. Like, hey, man, like you need to, um, you need to take care of it.
Speaker 1:I mean, you know, there's a guy that can give you all the answers you need. All you need to do is just accept our invitation to go to the Illuminati and pretty much at episode 12 of season 4 that's when they pulled the Naruto route to where, oh, you could decide to go join the Illuminati to gain more power thanks to this dubious guy, because he wants to be stronger than his brother, and I'm like that sounds familiar what is that?
Speaker 1:I mean I'm not saying like copy and paste, but it's like it's one of those um storyline, those plot devices that works, so like like I don't even blame, at least they did. In a way that's different, because not like Naruto and Sasuke, because you know they're actual brothers versus Naruto and Sasuke. They're not brothers, but it's like they have that brotherly bond. So it's like different. But I can kind of see the parallels, you know what I'm saying. But uh, yeah, I can kind of see the parallels, you know what I'm saying, but uh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, like that first half, when I when I say they had me in that first half, I'm not gonna lie, this time I really Mean it like they really had me in this first half.
Speaker 2:It took such, definitely took such. It took such a. It was such a turn Is what I was trying to say. Jesus Christ, I couldn't get the words out. It was such a turn, it was such a shift that I was like, oh, this is, this is different. I need to finish this now, like I actually'm. I'm hooked by this, especially like, kind of, like you said, like we got backstory on the characters that we had grown to care about, we've grown to really like, because I'm not gonna lie, you're right, um, true, or one of my favorites, I love her, so getting her like finding out how she's powerful and all those things is it was really cool. And then, with Yukio going all breaking bad it was, it was, it was great, it was absolutely perfect oh yeah, uh.
Speaker 1:Now part two of season four. It was absolutely perfect, hell yeah. Now part two of season four. Oh man, I say tragic. I mean this was kind of tragic.
Speaker 1:Like like Yuri with her friends, like see, that's the funny thing, like I thought the friends was gonna like make it somehow, but then again, like it wouldn't try to where, like, oh well, they would fed them the plot too many answers too quickly. So it was like, oh, those two friends, um, rick and Jenny, like I, I mean I kind of saw Rick coming, but I didn't expect Jenny to just be killed offscreen Just because, oh well, you know, we got to make sure that she don't tell anybody what's going on. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but with Rick, you know, like he just got caught, crossfire Gets Lucifer. So you know, it just got caught, crossfire gets Lucifer, so you know it happens, it is what it is, but um, can't say it's just like that yeah, I'm sorry, uh, but uh, oh man, listen, you know how we were saying with the anime exclusive episodes, how they pretty much don't matter.
Speaker 1:However, I feel like what happened in those episodes pretty much encapsulate what was going to go down in season four, where you get some more.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, I'm sorry Go ahead, where we get some more.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, go ahead we're going to get some more backstory on Shiro Yuri and everybody else at True Cross Order, but what were you about to say, mj?
Speaker 2:I was going to say first season, right towards the last episode. They used kind of the same images from that first from the last half. They used kind of the same images from that first from the last half of that In the episode. What episode was that Distress? The second episode of season four.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:They used kind of some of the same images from the first season.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I was like yo, but you said it didn't matter you told me to forget about it nah, because what they did was they stretched it out to where, like okay, uh, they probably the move they probably did was they weren't. Like I said in the beginning, they probably wasn't sure if they were going to get a more fleshed out story, so they just kind of threw in the ending of the story at the last minute just in case. And then I guess at one point they just got greenlit for season two. So they decided, okay, we can just consider that chunk irrelevant, okay, we can just consider that chunk irrelevant so we can like actually flesh out what was supposed to happen in that chunk. So here we finally figure out exactly what happened with shiro, yuri sat, satan and everybody else. And it's my thing, one of the main things about hold on, hold on before I really get into part two of season four I like this new look for Ren, you know, with the white hair and whatnot. But when his sword broke he had like the flames and whatnot and I like how the little flame kind of look like a V-shape, kind of remind me of Katekio Hitman Reborn. I was kind of really digging that.
Speaker 1:But, like I was saying before, shiro wasn't even born. He was created as a Nephilim, like a clone of Zazel, kind of like how Ren and Yukio and Shimi and some others are Nephilims. Uh, shiro, he was Mexican when he became an exorcist. Like okay, check this out, he just became an exorcist. Like okay, check this out, he just became an exorcist. And he like going out, drinking and all that shit. And then, uh, at one point, this one exorcist girl uh slapped on be like oh, you're so stupid, you don't care about yourself, and ran off. And then he was like whatever bitch. And then uh, yuri was over there, like why aren't you running after her, don't you care? I'm like man, I don't care. And then, uh, next thing you know, another girl runs up to him like wrapping her arms around him, like hey, baby, let's go drink. You know like, oh, hell, yeah, let's go.
Speaker 1:Like see, bitch it don't matter, Like, see, it don't matter. Like, bro, like I just love the little relationship that Shiro and Yuri had. But what kind of pissed me off is that at the last minute, when Yuri died, Shiro was like I love you since the first day I met you, but why did you act so antagonistic towards her the whole fucking time? Well, at least half that time Fucking tsundere type energy, Bro, thanks, but uh, what else? What else? What else?
Speaker 1:Ooh, ooh okay, satan, let's talk about Satan real quick. What else, what? Oh, okay, satan, let's talk about satan real quick. Once satan possessed the body, yuri was practically raising him like a sister, like a mother uh, raising a child, um, he also played with her back when he was just a rinka, you know blue flames, like you're playing with uh. But once he got a body, then it was like he was acting like a real infant and the crate.
Speaker 1:And the funny part is when shiro showed up, um, just to play with him, satan hated him on sight. I'm like damn, imagine being so tough as an exorcist. You got Lord Satan automatically hitting on you, like just this little children's game that the two of them were playing. Like Satan was getting mad that he was losing to Shiro and Shiro was like kind of mocking him and whatnot. And you were like why are you saying all that? Like I'll be nice, I'm like man, whatever you know. Like let him feel some type of white shit, like it's good for his character.
Speaker 1:And I'm like funny that you say that, because the very next day yuri showed up with him on top of a pile of books and I was like rinka, damn, like I haven't heard that name aides. You mean yesterday anyways. Uh, he was like, nah, you know, I don't like that name anymore. Like just call me lord satan. And here's the deal. Like I got his body and whatnot.
Speaker 1:So, um, we just like run away together like whatnot you know? Um, no, you know what. Wait a minute, let me back it up a little bit. Uh, there was this one instance when, like yuri and shiro, like teenagers, and like yuri got into it with Shiro getting mad at him and Shiro was almost about to punch Yuri, but the Blue Flames song shot up. And you want to know my immediate thought when I saw the Blue Flames protecting Yuri, what I just imagine Satan like, because I'm honestly thinking about doing the Blue X's Abridged series someday on YouTube. I'm just imagining Satan being like let me back your ass up on. Would you ever put your hands on my future baby mama? I was like yo, what I said, what I said? Now, back your ass up.
Speaker 2:You know, I feel like history gonna end up repeating itself.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:There's someone named Shura, you know.
Speaker 1:Oh, oh, oh. You know what you mean to tell me that Satan grew an ego to beat Shiro and to be with Yuri at the moment that one guard questioned if Shiro and Yuri were dating. Imagine if Satan heard that shit and he was like oh hell, no, you trying to take my woman away from me? No, no, let me read up all these books. You, you trying to take my woman away from me? No, no, let me read up all these books. You're going to take my woman away from me, bro. That's all you think you are.
Speaker 2:The fact that you know what, the fact that Satan in this show cared so much about you. Did he though?
Speaker 1:The way he, at the very end, at the very end, did he though that way he at?
Speaker 2:the very end, did he, though? That's a good question.
Speaker 1:Because, like it was more like obsession, slash, possession it was kind of like the same deal with Hachiro. It was like I don't love you. You're more like my favorite Plaything.
Speaker 2:You're intriguing to me, okay, okay, I didn't even peep that, you definitely peeped that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, nah, because I'm like uh, uh, bro, the way you moving, that's not love dog. Like the way I didn't like the way you were moving, that's the main thing.
Speaker 2:Like he did, he was moving, kind of he was. I ain't gonna lie, I ain't gonna hold you, you right, you right because, like he yeah, like he was protective and whatnot at first.
Speaker 1:But Like he yeah, like he was protective and whatnot at first, but it was almost like he was ready to kill the bitch every time she like left for extended periods of time. He's literally like that one dude to where you like, or it could be a girl, it could go either way. You know that one person that's like you're texting them right, and then maybe, like you're going off to like do your business for like 10, 20, 30 minutes or however long it takes you to do it, and then next thing you know you're getting all this string of um text messages talking about you. Dumb bitch, like how dare you ignore me? I want to help. You feel like whoa hold. Like I just put my phone down for 30 minutes and this is how you feel.
Speaker 1:Like some people really can't handle being left on read. So that's how Satan was coming off to her. Like he's one of those people that's like he'll get really mad if you leave him on read for too long. And that's pretty much what happened. I was like he was like ready to throw a tantrum over the fact that this one girl was like how come you didn't come see me?
Speaker 2:Where am I hug at, not where my hug at.
Speaker 1:I mean to be fair, yuri did love Satan, but then again I'm like I don't know if it was like romantic or not. It's almost like I care for you, like I care for our childhood friend. It felt like that kind of vibe. But even then, yeah, yeah, I know they did end up like having ran a Yu-Gi-Oh, but I'm like I don't know, it just didn't feel like a real relationship, especially with Yuri, if she wasn't as nice as she was. I swear she's one of those girls that's like she's just attracted to danger. She's just attracted to maybe like I won't say bad boys per se, but more like a vibe that bad boys per se, but more like a vibe that bad boys bring. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she thinks she can save everybody.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 2:She wanted to coexist with the demons. But you, bro, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:At some point. I wanted to say it was giving hints of Stockholm Syndrome at some point. Yeah, Especially when there's points where I just want to be with you. It felt like Cap, but it was one of those things where being with you is the only way to stop you from killing everyone else. It was almost like you're not really with him for real. You're only with him because you're trying to save everyone else from him. See, you're still trying to save folks even though, like you know, like Instead of accepting the fact that you guys can't coexist.
Speaker 1:But that's the thing is like's. Like if she didn't go with him, then he was going to try to kill everybody else and everybody was going to try to kill him, and then you would probably serve as a human shield. No, don't kill him. I'm like you, really.
Speaker 2:It's giving Emma from Promised Neverland okay, alright, don't talk about my girl. You know what she was kind of okay, nevermind, I can't do it. I can't talk about Emma cause she was a child. I feel like it's different.
Speaker 1:I mean, Yuri was a child pretty much influencing a lot of decisions based on her emotional bias.
Speaker 2:But I feel like. I feel like Yuri was a child who knew that it was Satan. Emma didn't necessarily know all the details yet, but what she got him she grew.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, yeah, I feel like I always have that cool, yeah, but oh man, yeah, I feel that I honestly have that cool, but, uh man, like the way the blue knight actually Went down to where a lot Of people died, and Uh, shiro tried to run away With Yuri, but you know, ren, popping out of the womb with a Killing spree all right, I'm like, damn Ren, like you were womb with a killing spree, all right, I'm like damn Ren, like you were born with a kill count on day one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, poor baby.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but Zero tried to protect Yuri and the boys, yuri dying anyways, and Zero we get to see Shiro like trying to be a father and what not. Oh, oh, oh, you know, let me back it up a little bit. I did find it kind of funny how Shiro, like meeting Shiro on site, was like you gonna be my new fiance, like let's get married and have some babies. Oh man, what the fuck.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was hilarious.
Speaker 1:Man like I Pretty much. Once Rin saw all of that, you know, using the keys and whatnot. He was one like he felt really bad, that he felt that he wished he was never born. And what? Mephisto who's my favorite character, by the way. I didn't mention that yet, but yes, mephisto is probably my favorite character because he comes off as this enigmatic, charming guy. He, he gives off maximilian pegasus vibes for me, like you know, the kind of guy that's like you, up to something, but for some reason I like the way you move you also just don't know exactly what he's up to, but you just know it's a.
Speaker 2:Thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like I can't prove that you're up to something nefarious, but there's something about you that's like I don't hate you, like I might like you, I don't know, like he's just cool. He's cool.
Speaker 1:Uh, once rin was saying like, oh, I wish I was never born, but mcphistle was trying to tell him that. Are you sure you want to do? You really believe that, after your mother, your surrogate father and everyone else went through everything that they went through just to make sure that you guys have a life like? In other words, like you may not oh, no one asked to be born, but at the very Least they deserve A fighting chance at life. Like that's the main thing I feel, like that's the main thing that they Try to bring home To this series as a whole, to where, like Rin didn't ask to be born the son of Satan, but at the very least it's like he shouldn't kill him just because he is the way he is. Like at the very least, let's give him a chance to like See if he can actually turn out To be a force of good Change his ways.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like you know, it's the age old argument Of nature versus nurture. Change his ways. Yeah, like you know give it a chance.
Speaker 2:It's the age-old argument of nature versus nurture.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, and it is a good thing that Ren and Yukio had Shiro as a father. In fact, I dare say it reminds me of Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2, to where Shiro probably looked at Satan like he may be your father, but that ain't your daddy.
Speaker 2:Damn. That's true, that's very true, and I'm glad I think we're all glad that Satan didn't get to raise any of his kids.
Speaker 1:It is funny because, like the way the Demon King tree works, satan is the father of Ren, yukio and all the other Demon Kings. So it's almost kind of weird seeing it how essentially Ren and Yukio are Brothers with Mephisto, amayama and all the other Demon kings. And Once again, it's like crazy enough, even though I'm not trying To Copy and paste, but it kind of Reminds me of the whole thing with the death Paintings in Jujutsu Kaisen, where, um, you find out, um, oh shit, like we, I'm actually like half human, half cursed, and you guys, my brothers, my whole time yeah.
Speaker 2:I was actually gonna say how like Blue Exorcist to me Was like the original JJK. It felt more like JJK Cause, like he's a demon, like, while JJK is good At some point, it's just an anime About boxing. It's about throwing hands, okay, yeah that's the crazy part.
Speaker 1:Like we're gonna do the manga discussion at some point, maybe in October. But I'm gonna be honest with you after reading the manga, completing the manga, I'm like I have mixed feelings about Yusuke Kain as a whole right now. But with blue exorcist, yeah, it's finished, it's been finished. Okay, yeah, I'll read it. But, uh, check this out. Here's my main problem with folks how people are so focused on instant gratification that they have no appreciation for delayed gratification. See, I appreciate glue exorcist for a way to where. Okay, slow start. But hey, I accept a slow start If it's like world building. You're introducing characters. We want to give us a chance to get to know these characters before the plot gets thickened. Okay, cool, I accept that. So I'm cool with a slow start, as long as it has an amazing finish. Versus oh, it left a strong first impression, but the ending fucking sucked.
Speaker 1:Looking at you Promised Neverland, but yeah like I do, like the way Blue Exorcist played out, to where I feel like I know these characters between Ren Yukio Ryuji, siemi Izumo Konokomaru, renzo Nemu, all these different main characters, the other characters too and I'm saying that they're not important enough for me to name, but we don't got time for that. Important enough for me to name, but we don't got time for that. It feels like you have to get to know these characters instead of just being there. The action isn't as flashy as jesus kaisen or demon slayer, but I don't know. It's not boring either.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not boring though, and it doesn't leave you exasperated because, like, sometimes all of the flashy fight scenes just kind of like overwhelm my senses and I'm like, okay, I need a break from this, like it was great and I think that's kind of the. It almost feels like that's kind of the. It almost feels like that's the intention behind like the scenes that happen in JJK, and maybe not so much Demon Slayer because those fights they're meaningful, but it seems that way in JJK it just seems like the intent is to kind of overwhelm you with how good the scenes look and then, because there's really no more meat to the plot and but you have something like blue exorcist where it's like first season is definitely like it starts off like, hey, bro, let me, let me let you know, like you a demon, what, oh b? Oh, btw, son of Satan, excuse me. And it hooks you In that moment and it takes you on a journey Through how they're coping and dealing with that.
Speaker 2:And as much as I didn't like season 2. I understood the world building of season 2. Was necessary.
Speaker 2:So and it definitely season 3 worth it, and then season 4 was off the rails, you know so check this out.
Speaker 1:Like quick detail. That I thought was kind of funny. Remember the remembrance part, part two of season four, to where they were like explaining shit, right, and before it was called the Cram School it was called the Asylum and I thought it was kind of interesting because, okay, on its own, whatever right. But the implication is imagine, uh, keep in mind, that demons are a secret in this world. Kind of like the same thing with Jujutsu Kaisen Normal humans can't see those curses In Blue Exorcist.
Speaker 1:Normal humans can't see demons. But if you get a temptate or you get inflicted by a demon, like scratch or something like that, then you can see demons. Right, that's how Yukio was able to see demons at an early age, because Rin, his twin brother, gave him the temptate. But that's beside the point. What I'm getting at here is imagine that you're one of those kids that accidentally got scratched by a demon.
Speaker 1:Now you can see demons, that you're one of those kids that accidentally got scratched by a demon, now you can see demons. And you're going fucking crazy because you can see demons and they're all like, hey yo, how about we just go to this school, to where you can learn how to fight against those demons and protect yourself and your family and your friends. Oh yeah, that sounds really good, cool, cool, cool. And you come to find out it's called the asylum, and I was like it's kind of like the implication that, um, you take these um children to this place, um, where it's like, oh they see, apparently they see demons, so you need to um help them and um guide them, or not like almost like implying that they've gone crazy because they can see things that normal people don't see I mean normal people would consider that probably kind of crazy.
Speaker 2:But I mean asylum could also mean, uh, you know, a place of refuge or like a place of protection, so like, and it could be that they were protecting the kids, like sending them there to the cram school as a place to protect them from like the outside world, putting them in an actual asylum like no, they actually crazy.
Speaker 2:We just gonna medicate them and leave them there, okay, cause they still seeing stuff. So I think they took it and was like we're gonna call it. At first they were like we're gonna call another asylum. And then they started Building real world asylums and they were like Nah, nevermind, we might wanna change.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, like it might have some Uh bad implications, cause you know like we don't want any PTA meetings, that's gonna get messy, like we're essentially calling these parents kids crazy for joining our school, so we just gonna call it the cramp school. You know, through Cramp Academy.
Speaker 2:Let's just go ahead and change that name, it's almost like oh well, you know, through Cross Academy, let's just go ahead and change that name.
Speaker 1:It's almost like oh well, you know it was a different time back then, like people didn't take things that seriously, but you know it's different now, so you need to call it something different so people don't think that we're calling people with like special needs like crazy or whatnot.
Speaker 1:You know you think mefisto named the school if he's the founder, then, yes, let me check, because, uh, I don't think he's the founder. Then, yes, let me check, because I don't think he's the founder. But I'm going to check, just one moment. He's the principal, for sure, yeah, but I don't know if he's the founder. All we know is that, uh, it was controlled by him. Uh, he is the chairman, but I don't.
Speaker 1:Hmm, yeah, I think it was a dual effort. Yeah, because, then again, out of all the demon kings, he is the only one that Wants to, like, put demons in check. I guess, um, not even that. It's like the main thing. Is he like earth culture so much that he's willing to fight against his own brethren just to have his freedom in Asia? Because, keep in mind, asia is the human world and Gehenna is essentially hell? But, yeah, he wanted to stick around in Asia, while, like, alright, well, I don't know, was there anything else? That's true, yeah, that was A good question, though, like, did he?
Speaker 1:Because, you know, sometimes the plot gets so convoluted Well, it didn't really get convoluted that much but like it gets so layered that's what I meant it gets so layered to a point to where, like, does it get deeper in this line Uh, who really set up true cross Academy? But, um, honestly I would say it was. It would be easier to say that yeah, uh, mephisto did it, because you know he has been living for hundreds, if not thousands, of years, so it's not far fetched for him to be the one to uh. It's not far-fetched for him to be the one to uh come up with true cross academy, to uh raise up exorcist to you know it's not unheard of, especially I know it.
Speaker 2:I know it's related to, like the, the organization order, the true cross, which. How did you feel about the order? Did you like? Because I didn.
Speaker 1:Did you like them Because?
Speaker 2:I didn't really feel like they did nothing.
Speaker 1:Honestly, I feel like the order reminds me of some of these organizations, kind of like when we did the Bleachist Room Reviews, where we kind of liked the Solstice, you know, at least the lieutenants, the captains, like the ones that we know. We liked them. But at the same time it's like they be treading these shades of gray to where it's like they're not exactly the uh goody two-shoes that you would think they were. It's like they kind of get involved in some questionable shit. So it's like the order for me kind of felt like one of those organizations where they tread a shade of gray to where they're not the worst people out there. But I I wouldn't blame you if you said that I don't fully trust them. I'm like, yeah, I guess I don't blame you because they have a tendency to make sure that certain information never see the light of day and yeah, Almost like they knew something that they're not telling us in a way. But yeah, for the most part I can't really say I like the order. It oh, you know what. It kind of reminds me.
Speaker 1:We keep making parallels to all these different anime, but it just reminds me of whether it was Jujutsu Kaisen with the way their I don't know what they call it in that universe again, but the higher ups, the higher ups really want Yuji dead. They really couldn't stand the fact that this kid was still alive. But I kind of get it at the same time. So I can't really say I like them, but I don't really hate them either. Same thing with naruto in the naruto universe where like uh, the hokage and anbu and all that was like yeah, like maybe not the worst people, but when you hear about some of the shit that they be doing behind closed doors it's like okay, so they kind of be on some suspicious shit from time to time. So that's really how I feel about a lot of these organizations like especially anime and whatnot, where, like they say they mean well, but some of the things they be up to, uh-uh Maybe shady.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like Shady, like no, no, I don't know Like what you got behind that door. I'm like, don't worry about what's behind that door.
Speaker 2:You did, don't worry about it.
Speaker 1:The door is red hey, mind your business.
Speaker 2:First of all what is? Your door purple and his door is red. What y'all got going on? I want to know.
Speaker 1:I'm hearing some strange noises behind that door.
Speaker 2:But yeah, I just was kind of I didn't feel like the organization in Blue Exorcist, I just felt like they didn't really do too much in my personal opinion, like I just didn't feel like, you know, it was definitely people I was keeping an eye on because, I'll be honest, that first meeting I was like, oh no, y'all suspicious, y'all trying to kill him, ain't you, yeah, poised yeah, it kind of really did feel like uh, rin and the rest of them, like you know, the x wires in the story was doing most of the work, while it just felt like, um, true cross order kind of was like barking orders more than anything, like some of them were like treated as cannon fodder for any demon attacks and whatnot.
Speaker 1:You know, same thing with the blue knight, where you just see a whole bunch of exes, just um dying, being engulfed in flames and whatnot. So, yeah, you're right, in a way it just feels like the order really didn't do anything other than make things more complicated to where, like you know, with Ren being the son of Satan, it's almost like they're just there to be this intentional obstruction to the plot being progressed too easily. You know, kind of like how you don't want point a and point b to be too straightforward to where you got, um, have some obstacles in a way to where, like, okay, you can't just do whatever you want. So I think that's what the order is for, it's where. I think that's what the order is for, it's where, at the son of Satan, um, we can't just let you do whatever you want. So we need to make sure there's some proper Restrictions and protocol For you to be running around.
Speaker 1:Same thing with Yuji, like he was supposed to be Executed and you just Kaizen. But you know, gojo and the rest, like hey, yo, here is that he might be an asset to us. All right, fine, we'll test him out for a couple of months, but like, if we don't see any results, then we're killing him, like you know that sort of deal, like just there, just to be there, uh, if not to make it a little harder for our heroes to do what they need to do that's fair.
Speaker 1:That's fair, they serve their purpose, I guess not exactly an antagonist, but more like, uh, an obstacle to where, like, if we made it too easy then, then it won't be as entertaining. Like we as an audience we probably would have hated it if our heroes were like just steamrolling through everything Like it's like there's no challenge, like we know that they're going to win no challenge, like we know that they're gonna win, like it just gets predictable to a point where I'm like like, is there even any real stakes involved? You know, but not uh, and blue exorcist is like, uh, there were consequences, um, for any actions that were deemed suspicious. You know. Same thing with Yukio to where he shot Mephisto. He got arrested immediately.
Speaker 1:So I guess in a way, there's like sex imbalances to these sort of things where you just can't be popping off and doing whatever you want. So in a way, I guess you could say the order is more like this world's equivalent of policemen. I mean, it also doesn't help that they all got the uniforms and shit. By the way, shura, she definitely puts that shit on when she wears their uniform. Oh, facts.
Speaker 2:But I feel like that shit on when she wears their uniform. Oh, facts, um, but I feel like that you ain't wrong Facts, she beautiful.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I'm kind of digging the short hair. The long hair was cool, but you know, when she had long hair she reminded me of Yoko Littner from Girl of Gone. But with short hair, like the long hair was cool. But uh, like you know, when she had long hair she reminded me of uh yoko litner from girl agon.
Speaker 1:But the short hair, she she still look good I mean, you know, she mommy crazy enough when she was like wearing the uh yukata, whatnot, and uh, beyond the snow art, you know, uh hachiro, like I was, was thinking hold on, did her tits get bitter? In certain frames it looked like they just got Grandma Tsunade. No, it just felt like hold on, they're not that big. Maybe it's just in that one frame. Did you want?
Speaker 2:to take a nap. Did what one frame like look, you know, take a nap do what now? Did you want to take a nap? Oh are we doing this again? Oh okay, oh okay. But you're not wrong though. I noticed that too. I kind of peeped that I did, I ain't gonna even lie. I was like Wait a minute.
Speaker 1:It was like Maybe he's just.
Speaker 2:I feel like it was the outfit. I feel like they were trying To emphasize the outfit. You know, you know Cause some outfits they make your boobs Look different and then some outfits they make them look. You know, you know, because some outfits they make your boobs look different and then some outfits they make them look. You know, up there.
Speaker 1:There was this one shot where, like she was wearing like her usual getup and it just felt like one of her boobs was like kind of oddly shaped. But then again it's like I guess it was just um the way she was like drawn in that shot. Like I'm not gonna nitpick too much, but I'm just saying it's like sometimes, um, the shape and size kind of get exaggerated here and there, uh, depending on, uh, the frame of what they're going for. So like, yeah, like maybe it was just drawn to look like that at that one point, but it didn't last long anyways, it was like okay, so maybe it was the way she was just drawn to the Ikara, yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, facts.
Speaker 1:Anything else about blue exorcist in general. Well, hold on, since we're gonna talk about uniforms and what not. How about what she and me like? She was wearing her kimono yukata, whatever you wanna call it like. She was wearing that at first and, by the way, she was a cute kid like either way, but as soon as she started wearing her school uniform, some of the dudes were like hold on, where you hiding all that titty meat and thighs from?
Speaker 2:Oh my God. Oh my God, did you just say titty meat?
Speaker 1:I did, I did.
Speaker 2:But you are so not wrong, cause when she was wearing her little kimono it was like aww. And she put on that school, it was like wait a minute. It was like that's not the same girl. I honestly, I'm not gonna lie to you, I thought it was two different people.
Speaker 1:You know what, jimmy? I feel like that's very selfish of you On how I know all that from us.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, most definitely a little selfish. Especially Rin confessing his feelings was really cute.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That was so sweet. I was like oh, my god, I ain't gonna lie, it was adorable.
Speaker 1:I didn't read the last part yet, but I'm kinda Hoping that, um, brandon and Shami can be together.
Speaker 2:But I don't know it could go either way. I feel like it's getting complicated. I feel like it's getting a little complicated right now.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, it's true, but like I don't know, that would be like wishful thinking, so we'll just have to see with this final arc going forward. Was there anything else? I'm trying to think right now because I don't want to sign off and get something that I'll Well hold on. Since we're talking about Chiemi, I thought her situation at first, when she was first introduced, was interesting because she was inflicted by a demon when she decided to root herself to her grandmother's garden, and a demon taking advantage of a young girl's sentimentality and the guilt she and me felt for not being there for her grandma sooner.
Speaker 1:I thought it was kind of interesting there because like, okay, she loved her grandma and like she was just gonna go off and like she wanted to travel and whatnot. She didn't want to be confined to the garden, but she felt bad that the grapevine or whatever it was, fell on her and killed her, and I was like, oh no, if only I was here sooner, I could have saved her and whatnot. Now you know, I'm just going to stay here forever. And the demon showed up like yes, good, let me stay here forever. And I was like I thought it was kind of like interesting storytelling Right there.
Speaker 2:It was really interesting because that's also a very Humanistic issue. Like many people struggle with that, especially when their parents get older. Um, like, do I stay, do I go? And the fact that it's a demon, that's like, yeah, no, stay here. Like it's almost as if, like, if you put that in real world context, that's keeping you tied down from exploring and like figuring out who you are and all those things. Right it's. It's kind of that was really interesting. That was really good storytelling and it's really relatable, unlike, you know, just some of the other stories that end up happening, but hers was really relatable.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I think that's what makes her and Ren like a really cute couple too, because her story is so relatable and it's so human and Rin is such the abnormal opposite end of that and the way he found out was just such the opposite end, like hers is such a sentimental thing and it's very grounding, and I think if there was anybody who could keep him grounded it'd probably be Shani yeah, like, uh.
Speaker 1:For some reason I can't help but think um about how I think Asta and what's her face would be a cute couple. Um the Hewlett girl I forgot her name.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, that would end up being really cute, because I just don't see him with what's her name? Silverhead girl, yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh well, you said I'm so wrong. You mean Noelle, Nah, like I don't think. Nah, nah, nah, they're like siblings.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they're more like siblings. It would have felt like the same kind of vibe. At best they work better if they have that same energy Ben and Gwen Tennyson had. At first they add each other's throats, but as they grow older they're kind of cool with each other. Yeah, they still argue, but it's not like they're trying to beat with each other. Yeah, they still argue, but it's not like they're trying to beat each other up or some shit. They're not as childish with it, but it's more like they may not see eye to eye all the time. But I fuck with you though.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel like that's more of their relationship, yeah nah, you know what that's about it because, honestly, with these reviews, I'm trying not to take away too much of the actual watching experience, so I would just encourage the listener to check it out. On Crunchyroll, I know I should have said like a spoiler warning, like wait or something, but like hey yo, spoiler alert. Hey yo, like what are you doing, listening to us when you could have watched the version and hear what we had to say about it?
Speaker 2:But if this encourages you to watch it, we're also glad.
Speaker 1:But you know what? I'll just go ahead and close it out Right now as it stands, because I would give it a 10 out of 10, but I'm mainly waiting for this final arc to be animated and then I'll be more sure about the 10 out of 10, but it's at least a solid 9. Like season 4 really brought it back for me. Like I'm not, because the funny thing is like I kind of skipped over season three, like, uh, I mean, I did watch season three. Don't get me wrong. All I'm saying is like I didn't watch it immediately. Like I did season two to where, like when I heard season two was being announced, like okay, that intrigued me enough to look into it.
Speaker 1:But, um, let's just say, with the breaks and all this other things that's going on with other anime things going on in life, like I just didn't get around to season three, like the others. But then I heard about season four and I'm like, okay, hold on. Like y'all still going with this, alright, let me just get back into it. So I refreshed and I'm like I am so glad I picked this show back up. So now I cannot wait for this final season Well season, because you know, you know how it is nowadays with anime to where it can never end on just one season going all the way through. It's got like have two or three.
Speaker 2:I swear to god, I get a movie. I swear to god, I swear like oh, I get half a season and then a movie.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna be so mad or you can be like demon player to to where you're like. Oh yeah, we're gonna split up the final arc in three movies.
Speaker 2:That's exactly why I'm pissed. That's exactly why I'm pissed.
Speaker 1:No, no, no. Bleak Thousand Year Blood War Having like four parts of their arc. I'm like goddamn. I thought See if they announced a part five on my dog, like how long are y'all gonna milk this cow? It's like Attack on Titan where, like final season, final part, no, no, nope, yeah, but uh, yeah, like it's like a four to nine.
Speaker 1:No, no, nope, yeah, but uh, yeah, like it's like a four, nine. Right now I want to say a ten out of ten, but I just really want to see how that last arc plays out before I give it ten out of ten. Um, but yeah, season four definitely brought it back as far as like okay, it was definitely worth watching, even if the start of it is like kind of slow. But even then, the slow start is fair because it was mainly geared towards the world building and character development of the multiple characters that we were introduced to. So I did not mind that at all. But uh, yeah, uh, you got a rating, you got any last words or something, anything, rating.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna give it a solid. I'm gonna give it a solid 8 out of 10. For right now, gotta wait for that last season for me, um, and I will say this it's worth the watch, man. Even season 2 is worth the watch. It's really good. So if you haven't checked this out, I highly recommend it, especially in the current climate of anime. If you're looking for something that's like actually has some really good storyline and is really emotional, willing to be emotionally invested in, it's definitely Blue Exorcist right now oh yeah, I want to say Blue Exorcist has that same sauce that a lot of popular anime shows have.
Speaker 1:That's why I would say Blue Exodus is one of those examples of, I mean you could say it fell off ever since, like you know, the gap between season one and season two. It was going to be one of those obscure animes where like okay, it's good, but like not a whole lot of people talk about it nowadays. But then season two, three and four brought it back into like relevance and now it's like okay, we can now understand that blue exorcist is like bigger than what we, what it was, what we thought it was, and that's what makes a lot of anime runs like kind of how can I put this? It's kind of disappointing and disheartening when it seems like, okay, I'm gonna put anime out there and do well, because of low viewership or low budget or whatever the reason was. And then you get into the manga and you're like hold the fuck on, how come we're not getting all this anime, like all this different cool shit that happens in the manga, like that didn't happen in the anime yet and by looks of, we're probably not gonna get it because I guess the studios were convinced that not enough people wanted more. So that's that's why I was saying earlier, with instant gratification versus delayed gratification, like we want the good shit right up front, that we don't appreciate the delayed gratification, to where all the good shit sometimes wait until like the later half, and by the time you get all the good shit in the first half and I mean you would expect that, oh well, it's supposed to keep ramping up from there, right, but it's not that easy and I hope fans are not forgetting that sometimes these things are just not that easy.
Speaker 1:Like people make it sound like, oh, anybody can make a, make a hit anime or whatnot. Like, really, do you think it's that easy? Um, probably not, but I don't know. Like I feel like people are being a little too unfair to where it's like, um, sometimes storytelling takes a lot of time and they say that that, oh well, you know there's like a creative bankruptcy. But like For a lot of y'all Complaining about, oh, how things suck, it's kind of weird that y'all are barely doing anything about it Except complaining. But I don't know, maybe that's just me, blue Exorcist, I love it, I love the direction that it was going and I hope this final Art of one claw Impresses me. But um, until then, you know what? Let's just go ahead and, uh, close it out. Uh, you sure you have any final words for us? Wait, did you Not hear me earlier? Oh, my bad, like I just want to make sure because I didn't want to make sure that you said everything that you want to say.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, cool, cool, cool. Yeah, I heard you say your rating and what not, but like sometimes I'll just be saying shit and I hope I didn't like cut you off or anything when I was trying you're good JB gotcha alright. Well, you know what, dear listener, have yourself a good morning, good afternoon, good evening, or you know, whenever you're listening to this episode and ultimately, you just go ahead and take it easy.
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