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Bleach: The Xtreme Review (Part 4: Season 13-16)
Zanpakuto spirits gain physical forms and rebel against their Soul Reaper masters, while Ichigo faces Aizen's final evolution and later loses his powers, only to encounter mysterious Fullbringers who promise to restore his abilities.
• Zanpakuto Rebellion arc reveals the animated forms of Soul Reapers' weapons and their complex relationships with their masters
• Muramasa awakens the Zanpakuto spirits and turns them against the Soul Society before his own tragic end
• The final battle with Aizen pushes Ichigo to use his ultimate technique, Final Getsuga Tensho, sacrificing his powers
• Gin Ichimaru reveals he was plotting against Aizen all along before being struck down
• The mysterious Fullbringers appear to help Ichigo regain his powers, but their leader Ginjo has ulterior motives
• Fullbringers are revealed to be humans whose mothers were attacked by Hollows before their birth
• Soul Society captains restore Ichigo's Soul Reaper powers, allowing him to defeat Ginjo
• Ichigo learns he wasn't the first Substitute Soul Reaper and chooses to forgive Soul Society despite their secrets
If you're excited about these arcs, wait until you see what happens in the Thousand Year Blood War - we're just getting started with the biggest revelations about Ichigo's true nature and heritage!
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Well, kokugatsu, we are here, the final leg of the Bleach Extreme Review, outside of the Thousand Year Blood War Arc, season 13, group 6. I'm going to be talking about the Zanpakuto's Last Sword Beast Arc, the Downfall of Aizen slash sword beast arc, the downfall of aizen ray guy arc, or like I like to call it, the doppelganger arc and the full bringer arc. So go ahead. The don pato arc, dare I say, my favorite filler arc out of this whole series, because I just found it so interesting to see their I'm going to put it there animated form and their relationship with their Soul Reaper master and the whole thing with Muramasa and all that, and the whole thing with Muramasa and all that, even though surprisingly longer than I thought.
Speaker 1:I mean, even when I was first watching the Zanpato arc back when it was like new to the states and it was like the weekly run, it felt long, of course, but then again I didn't mind it. But, binging it, I'm like, bro, like this arc is long as fuck, but I didn't mind it. I really didn't Because you know, it was mainly about building bonds with the Zanpato. Now they're like okay, well, you know, let's just capitalize on the opportunity, you know, build a bond with our Zanpato and their animated forms before they become inanimate objects again. So I didn't mind it. Koki, what are your thoughts on the Zanpatou arc?
Speaker 2:So I appreciate the Zanpatou arc. The first thing you said yeah, I liked it as a filler thing. It was like pretty cool, it was pretty deep and I was like, ok, this is pretty dope. You know, it's like getting a chance to really meet the Zanpatou, because we hear about them all the time and to me it was just like having a moment of like Persona, like the Persona series or even like the JoJo series, which Persona is based off of JoJo we did confirm that. I think we talked about that before. So like having your own inner power, like coming out into the Zanpatou and stuff. And honestly, this is one of the ones that the Thousand Year Blood War arc. We haven't quite gotten to that point yet. We're getting there, but we haven't gotten to that point in the anime but in the manga. So I'm not trying to spoil anything, but pretty much understanding. The Zanpatou chooses its wielder per se and every Zanpatou is technically its own one who is the wizard harry right, right, exactly, exactly.
Speaker 2:And so they get. They choose who it is that they work with type of thing, and it's like they could choose whether to still work with you or not. They could say forget about you and stuff. And so getting these moments and understanding that we're getting a chance to really see these onanpatou spirit and how they really are supposed to be, and understanding their actual relationships with their characters, their users, and I like that we get to see that point of like domination because it really brought forth that moment that we've heard this time and time again, we've repeated it time and time again, but the conversation that Yusuke had with his hollow self about the horse.
Speaker 2:And it was like, if I take over, that's it. And at this point it was pretty much the same. They had to fight their Zanpato spirits and if you could not win it was it your Zanpato spirit could kill you. Also, I love the designs on a lot of them, especially like ronka cues. Uh, man, absolutely fucking love that little cat. Uh, but like I love being the chance to see how everything worked out and, um, seeing that we really got a chance to see how things were.
Speaker 2:Um, this was also a good segment to really talk about kenpachi, because most people was like yo, was it kenpachi never? Like it was this whole thing of like oh, kenpachi doesn't know his own pato name, so of course he didn't awaken because he doesn't know it, so there's nothing to really worry about type of thing, and you know. But it winds up being that moment that we find out again a thousand year blood war arc that there's a bigger connection here and his um pato spirit is actually that much that extremely powerful. Per se. Again, try not to spoil it, but it's one of those ones that there's a couple moments here that actually like, really jump started. That how some of the storylines in the thousand year blood war, like it seems like it's just a filler, but it still has important elements and it's like that's what's up. It's just like to me personally, so I really really like this one.
Speaker 1:Gotcha, gotcha. It's funny because, even though I'm not trying to make too many comparisons to other things, but sometimes, watching these things and watching through Bleach, there are some things that I know that remind me of other things and, crazy enough, prepared for some Harry Potter and Jujutsu Kaisen jokes. So, before we even get into the next few arcs, muramasa, how do you feel about him as a villain? You know him supposedly killing his master and whatnot, brainwashing Zanpato and all that. How do you feel about him as a villain?
Speaker 2:He had a great concept for execution. Yeah, yeah, because, in all honesty, his ability, this ability, he should be like not unbeatable, but instead it was like okay, time to get your masters. And more than half these on Pato weren't actually brainwashed, so it was that point of like. Is that what was really your power? His power necessarily wasn't even brainwashing, it was just to be able to awaken them. I would also say the biggest hindrance as well for him as a villain in this arc is that this filler arc is very poorly placed. This would have been a great filler arc to have right before Aizen reawoken. I say reawoken, but before he came back, like after he left and the Soul Society was kind of amidst in chaos and they're trying to figure things out. Are you meaning like you?
Speaker 1:mean, mean, like. Would it be like before or after the bount art? Because that was like yeah with the vampires.
Speaker 2:I would say definitely, probably. I would say before, like right before the bount art like there's chaos in the soul society, then there's chaos in the earth realm like then there's chaos in the Earth Realm.
Speaker 1:It's funny that you mention that, because I said that was like a running joke for us during this whole Bleach History Review, how we keep calling Bound Bound vampires. But in Melbourne, excuse me, talo would defend the Bound, and I'm like, okay, that's fair enough. But then again again, he was saying about oh, if you want vampires, let's talk about the full bringers. And I'm like, okay, to be fair, not all of them, it was just the one guy, you know, but we'll explain that later we're about to talk about that soon.
Speaker 2:So when you have like a good story, a good filler arc like this, placement is important, so it's like clearly, whoever wrote this knew what they were doing. It's actually okay like it's not the best again, but it was still well enough that I was like I acknowledge it as a really decent filler. So I'm just like you weren't on for the last part right no, I missed. It okay, sorry y'all here's the thing.
Speaker 1:I know I did that with uh mirror jane. But here's the thing, uh, I said that with the uh past arc. I was telling her that out of all the fill arcs, it works, no matter where you place it in the series. Where we we needed to know that information regardless. Well, well, at least up until the final battle against eyes. We needed it before the final battle against eisen.
Speaker 1:But outside of that, like anywhere outside of that, or you know, after you introduce the bias, because, know, a big thing about them is they're inclusive and we'll explain that later. But I would say perfect placement where it was with the past, or because it was like we needed to know the information and it gave us enough to like really get us thinking once again. That again that the Soul Society was kind of on some suspicious shit. It's like sometimes the Soul Society just ain't shit, but then again good people just even Rukia said that they had inflexible standards and whatnot, but thanks to one man alone that changed everything. But yeah, the Zanpato arc is one of those things where if that was a canon arc, that would give a whole lot of perspective on how the Soul Reapers treat their Zanpatos. It definitely cannot be a canon arc.
Speaker 2:It can't be a Ken Arp because if it was, it destroys the development that we get with Renji and Thousand Year Blood War.
Speaker 1:Oh well, you know I didn't watch that yet, so okay, I'll take your word for that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm not spoiling it, but just understand we like Thousand Year Blood War. Everybody gets some development and everybody's development is based upon their own plateau, so it's like there's a particular reason that this can't be canon. It's just a nice idea okay.
Speaker 1:Well, if we get that in Thaldea Blood War, then that's fine, that's cool right there, at least with this one.
Speaker 2:It was an interesting concept, yeah that's what I was saying, like it's a good, it was a good idea into things and it was like, yeah, but that's why I was saying Thousand Year Blood War didn't make me appreciate this one even more, because it was some moments that it was like you could tell there were some ideas that were in play and we kind of kept getting like little hints about what was happening it was almost like hey, yo, I remember y'all liked the Ensemble Pato, so we're going to add a little bit more of that in there, like exactly.
Speaker 1:Oh uh, speaking of Mira Jane, she's saying that she's going to be jumping on. Alright, was that what you had on Ensemble Pato? Yeah, I don't have much honestly.
Speaker 2:This was again. This is one that I like.
Speaker 1:Alright, with all the add-ons on Pop the Orc.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't have much Like. Honestly, this was again. This is one that I would go back and re-watch because it's a pretty good filler. But as far as like, oh, was there great battle segments that you really wanted to try to play onto it? Originally, I would say, yeah, there's several, but then I would see a Blood. Yeah, there's several, but then I was like, oh, nevermind, some of those developments that we got in the Zanpakuto arc is vastly different for the canon. If I could just mention some of the best fights, of course you know we had that build up for Ichigo, of course, clearly, even though we already knew what was going to happen there Not necessarily the fight, because Renji didn't fight his Zanpakuto, but it was a moment of him getting a clear understanding. It was also the first time they hinted at there being that apparently something has been wrong with Renji and his Bankai form.
Speaker 2:And that clearly something is off, and so it's like it's mentioned into it where literally his Zanpato literally tells him you don't really know me, and that was it. We don't hear much else into it, so I'm not going to spoil it, but just understand because of that hint, there is something wrong with Renji's Zanpato, his relationship with Zanpato. Let me take that back.
Speaker 1:Let me take that back. I did not watch the Thousand Year Blood War arc. However, there's a reason why Because back when this was mid-Arancar once again I was watching this shit, back when it was brand new to the States I got curious and started reading the manga. So that's why I knew about the fullbring art way before it was even animated. And I did the same for the thousand year blood war art, to a point where, okay, I know two more too much. Uh, let me dial it back and like wait until the anime get animated, because I know there's gonna be some anime only watchers. And I'm like, okay, once it gets animated and my friends get a chance to watch it, then I'll talk about it.
Speaker 1:But god, damn that was years ago. That's why I'm like, that's why it feels brand new, even though technically I should know this information and I do know some information regardless. But it's like it still feels brand new only because I was trying to avoid spoiling it for other people. So that's why I was trying to avoid knowing too much about it until you know it was animated well enough to where I'm like okay, it's fair game at this point exactly.
Speaker 2:But yeah, it's, but that's probably the only thing that I would say. It gives leeway to understanding that there is something wrong with everyone in there. There's no one gets along with their Zompato as well as they thought they did because of that whole horse thing. Like they learned their Zompato's name. They had learned to to be able to like kind of hone the spirit, but very few people really can actually know like. So the only other one, the last one that I was going to mention, that was Ikaku. Ikaku is one of the few people that knows his zanpato and it's one of those ones that kind of like if, like I said, also wouldn't make it.
Speaker 2:I was trying to say bonkai, but I mean, bear with me, I'm hungry, okay no, I get it but um, but ikaku actually knows his on pop toe and so when he like has those moments where he says, yeah, my zone pop toes, kind of lazy, like it's powerful, but he sleeps a lot, you really got to wake him up, type of thing, and that's that point. He he's one of the few characters that actually does so. He doesn't really fight his own pato as far as like it's a bad battle. Their fight is more so. Uh, they're just having fun and I can really appreciate that, because that's one of those ones. It's just like oh yeah, he's not really struggling or nothing like that. He's like I'm in this for the fun, me and my Zanpalto, we actually get along. You can't brainwash him because we good friends. You just gave me an opportunity to get into a good fight and then Zanpalto was like, oh, I can finally wake up and get a good fight. That's just kind. Otherwise, everyone else's was kind of like it's okay. I mean little pretty boy. His penguin-esque type Zanpato was interesting.
Speaker 2:The best design to me, like I said, was Rangikyus. I like that best design. I think it really fit. It really fit Rangikyu. We really did not get the chance to actually see rookies, um, because they that that design that was made for his own popto was discarded. So what we wound up seeing for rukia in this arc isn't legit. That's actually different in the Thousand Year Blood War. So that one I can't acknowledge because it was discarded, which makes me feel really sad.
Speaker 2:But I mean I guess that's just what it is, you know. But yeah, that's it. Everyone else was just kind of like, eh, it's cool, like I. I said this is still a good art. Go back and rewatch it. Is it like an absolute? Oh, I have to talk about this, to be honest. Not really, at least not to me gotcha.
Speaker 1:Alright, let's talk about the fake heart of town slash downfall of Aizen art. Well, aizen pretty much had it all at this point. Well, not all of it, but essentially he fused with the hokyoku. He's trying to invade karakura town, but it turns out it was a fake karakura town, but he knew that because you know all according to plan. It's a fake Haku Kura time, but he knew that because you know all according to plan. So he's like okay, I'm just going to go ahead and fuse with Hogyoku and just have my fun a little bit before I end up killing you all and surprise, surprise. But well, before I get to that, let me mention that, essentially, while some of the characters were still in Hueco Mundo fighting some of the Arrancar and Espada and that's why you didn't see Rukia, renji and Ressou For the most part during this part they were still in Hueco Mundo, but Ichigo and some of the other captains and lieutenants essentially were fighting Aizen.
Speaker 1:Tozen Ichimaru and a bunch of other Espains and lieutenants essentially were fighting aizen, uh, tozin ichimaru and a bunch of other espada and all that and honestly I was really digging it, especially with the lore drops and whatnot. Uh, daddy kurosaki turned out be a soul reaper. I knew that part, but I'm just saying, uh, it was just getting crazy, especially getting on the lore dropped where, okay, apparently, izen created the visors as an experiment to create the Argonkars, to advance his goal to fuse the power of Soul Reapers and Hollos together to have even greater power, and he was going to basically go after the Soul King and be this whole king of everything and all that shit, or I think he wanted to destroy, I don't know. It was weird. It's like it's the funny thing with these villains they either want to take over the soul society or destroy it. But and sometimes I'm just sitting here like to be fair once again, soul side do be on some bullshit. So I kind of get it. But you, you know, at the same time I don't hate the Soulcite enough to like want them destroyed.
Speaker 1:So, uh, anyways, there was this whole war going on for the most part, but surprise, surprise, gein pulled a Professor Snape on us and you would. And why I say this is because you would think, yes, he looked like the type of dude that would be suspicious of something, and he wasn't the main Villain in the Soul Society arc, but he was involved, he was an accomplice With Toza and you were thinking, okay, he turned over To Aizen for some reason and you're kind of wondering why. And you know know he was being like mysterious and whatnot, up until he pretty much, um, stabbed eisen at, uh, what he thought was an opportune moment. But you know, it was turned to be ineffective. But this whole time, from the very beginning, he was like I'm gonna follow this man so I can one day kill him, and I'm going to be the only one that's going to be able to kill him, because I'm one of those guys where, you know, keep your friends close and enemies close to where. I'm just going to keep a close eye on you until I catch you slipping.
Speaker 1:And as soon as you think you got it all, I'm going gonna take the opportunity to strike, like a Cobra that I am. And Aizen was like, nah see the hookah, you was always gonna be part of me, so I'm gonna take that back and I'm done with you. But, um, I was kind of surprised by that because I'm okay. So in the end, like Ichimaru was kind of surprised by that because I'm okay. So in the end, like Ichimaru was kind of one of them, but he had to betray the social society in order to get Aizen out of an opportune moment. So okay, I'm cool with that. What I'm not cool with is how Tozin essentially had a negative change arc to where you're thinking like bro back in the day To him what's on some real high spiritual shit.
Speaker 2:To where I'm like damn like that's like some very strong perspective right.
Speaker 1:And then the more he kept fucking around with eisen and whatnot, it's like they said in uh anime themselves that even when he gained sight he became blind and he was blinded by his lust for power and all that shit. And bro dude looking like an ugly ass with that fucking resurrection on arm, point I'm like man, you know what? On behalf of the black community. He does not represent us. I do not claim him.
Speaker 2:Hell.
Speaker 1:No, he not like us, he not like us Nah nah, nah, let me take that hood pass from you, my dude. I'm like man. No, let me take that hood pass from you, my dude, I'm like man. You really sold out, dog, you really sold out. I do not feel bad for you at all. But here's my thing though that's not even the worst offense Well, I won't say it was even an offense, but I don't know, maybe it's a nitpick for me. I won't say if it's even an offense, but I don't know, maybe it's a nitpick for me.
Speaker 1:Am I the only one feeling like the whole final fight between Ichigo and Aizen felt a little anticlimactic? Just a little bit, because it just felt like okay, check this out. So Ichigo essentially had to realize that, okay, he needs to learn final Getsuka Tencho, excuse me. And he realized that the condition is oh, he needs to accept Son Gessica by letting him stab him and all that shit. Blah, blah, blah, we know this. So he gains final Gessica potential and he pulls up on Aizen. And then he was, and Aizen, you know being a typical villain, and that's the funny thing about Aizen too. It's like he had all that composure up until Ichigo pulled up to fight him, like I would say, up until, like Dean um betrayed him. But then again that was like that wasn't full crash out mode, like he started crashing out as soon as the fight started. I'm like, bro, bro, where was all that composure five minutes ago? But no, no, hold on, let me finish. Finish, let me finish. But my whole thing was aizen was fucking crashing out way too soon and ichigo barely did anything. It was like, oh, I like how he pretty much pulled a goku to where, like hey man, not here, even though we know um fake hearts, kuro-tan, but some of his people were still there, or um, maybe I skipped, maybe I skipped the episode, like kind of blurred out my memory, but maybe like the um times got switched and some of the people were still there. That's all I'll say. So maybe the people who can see spirits, they were um left behind for some reason and like whoops, but uh, that's about beside the point, um, beside the point. Point being is that Ichigo was like hey man, not here, let's just take this over somewhere else. And then Aizen's like who the fuck you think you are on Taunting Me? Let me tell you something, motherfucker, I am beyond you, I am beyond all you, I'm beyond God.
Speaker 1:And then, next thing, you know, aizen had his hand in his face and then like shoved him all the way over there and then Aizen was like what the fuck was that? I was like, oh yeah, I'm ready. And then Aizen was like hold on, hold on you, stronger than me. No, fuck all that. Fuck all that. You know what final form time let's go. Like he had like two final forms, by the way. He was like blazing through him faster than fucking frieza. And I was like he, you know, all day, and easygo was barely with dry, like I like how easygo was just looking at stone cold, like man, I'm not even afraid of you, I'm not even mad at you. I kind of feel sorry for you. I'm like you feel sorry for me. No, fuck all that. Are you picking me? Fuck all that.
Speaker 1:And then, um, you know, as of course he gets into final guess of the 10 show and all this dude did was he went straight into the signature move. Well, for the form, uh, mugetsu, just one slash. And he was like, well, you're done. I'm like no, no, I'm not done, you're not done. He was like, well, you're done. And I'm like no, no, no, I'm not done, you're not done and I was like and then Urahara pulls up, sealed him in the cross seal. They end up taking him to the Soul Society. Yeah, we're done. And you know, since he's immortal, I don't know what to really do with him. We decided, alright, you know what, let's lock them up, man, like forever, right, like nah, 10 000 years, 10 000 years. And it's kind of like call back to hell of a ball season two all over again, where I'm feeling like I'm feeling like fucking handy at this moment, where I'm like, really, 10 000, you gonna let them walk after 10 000 years, like that yep, really, really seriously.
Speaker 2:They get a slap on the wrist. It's because they're royalty. Yeah, there is actually a particular reason for it. There was a reason behind it and it got a bigger explanation. We actually got an explanation for it, not in the manga, it was in one of the light novels, but and it's not really a spoiler because we're still working into this anyway it's based into the hell arc. So one of the biggest things that um and to know about hell arc is this because they talked about it in the anime.
Speaker 2:Briefly, so some soul reapers are most soul reapers are so powerful that when they die, they can't they can't be reincarnated back into the human world because their spiritual pressure is still the same with them. That's just how it is. Everything has to be a balance. The Soul King's body is balancing everything, so you have some. That has to be a balance of power between the Soul Society, the Hollow World and the human world, and because there has to be such a balance between them, I mean, I know I I'm gonna say this in the style of your blood war, but here's one of those details that I looked into.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I just think it's kind of funny. We're talking about, uh, hell and soul king, whatnot, but I think it's funny how we have the world of the living, we have the soul society, we have hueco mundo, but, uh, as far as, uh, where the wonder right, the uh thisvisible Army and all that shit, what they call themselves, I like how their joint is called, or something like that is German, but the English translation for that is the funny part, the English translation is Shadow Realm.
Speaker 2:So you been banished to that Shadow Realm, so you been banned.
Speaker 1:No, they weren't banned, but I just like how that's the name of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean Kubo had a whole deeper meaning Into it, but it's honestly, it's always been hilarious Into it because it's like it's not necessarily Another world, but just the shadow existence Of all and that's where the soul came from. It's. It's like a little positive, hilarious. Yeah, it's just hilarious, but no, but no, just real quickly. It was um the fact that if you have someone who has such immense spiritual pressure like eisen, um, if they die they have to go to hell. There's no other option type thing. However, eisen is immensely powerful, so if you send all of that riatsu to hell, it will count. It will cause an issue and counterbalance, because that amount of ryatsu that he had is needed in the soul society in order to keep the scales balanced, type of thing. Because, especially considering the fact, like, what's going to happen to, to some of the other soul reapers, especially some of the higher up ranks I'm not going to say who, because again I'm not on the sport or nothing, but because of what's going to happen is one of those things of like that counterbalance causes issues and stuff, um, and so it's like they have to go to hell. There's not another option. That's the only situation that can happen. It's the only thing that he can do and because of that, like I said, if they killed eisen, it would counterbalance the scales, it would cause issues.
Speaker 2:Eisen would have won. Either way they kill him, send him to hell. The soul king's body would have won. Either way they kill him, send him to hell. The soul king's body would have shattered from the. His prison would have shattered, based upon that counterbalance of Ryatsu. If he won, he would have killed the soul king and took over and counterbalance everything. So it was like there really was no other option. He was just too powerful. So they had no choice but to be able to seal him away Because he had fully fused with the whole Gyoku. So that's the kind of funny thing into it Is the fact that once he fused with the whole Gyoku, he was guaranteed a win regardless. So they really were just delaying the inevitable speed.
Speaker 1:Now I can believe that, um, like, there's like some jojo, well okay, because it can't keep in mind that, um, some of these things come out before or after each other, so we're not gonna say that, oh yeah, it was definitely inspired by it, but I just think it's funny how it just feels like a jojo plot to where it's one of those things where the villain technically won, um, either way, and it's like he see, that's the thing.
Speaker 1:That's why I was gonna talk to you about kookugasso, how the reason why I feel like it was so anticlimactic is not only because you even, let's just say you just cemented how anticlimactic it is, because, on top of that, with how I explained it, I'm like, bro, there was. It didn't really feel like a build-up to a fight, like, see, the funny thing is even though I'm probably gonna mention it again, oddly enough, I like the fight with him versus Ginjo better than the Aizen fight, because at least it felt like an actual fight With Ichigo. It was more like oh no, I got this, I got this, don't worry about it, I got it.
Speaker 2:It didn't feel like a fight, it just felt more like, I think, crashing out, you turned to villain, I mean, and just that whole push into the fact that you get to see how a person truly is when they're about to lose everything or if they feel like they're about to gain everything. So it's like and you know, we see that with even reference to Light Yakami and Death Note when he thought that he was going to claim that win, he was bragging up and everything. He was like who cares if I tell you all this, it don't make a difference because I won, I got this. And then, like you know, wantsa loses and once he loses, in the end he starts literally bitching out, completely bitch made. Same thing, unfortunately, for Aizen.
Speaker 2:Aizen's powerful, but he's arrogant. He believes his way is the right way and because he believes his way is the right way, there's nothing, there's no way to change that. He's not a person that will change. He believes in himself that much. He's Escanor, but the bad person and his pride, oh man, I would say. For this particular. There's a lot that happens here and I'm going to break down just honestly a short segment into this. My favorite part of this entire season is the beginning, because we get to see the form. That favorite part of this entire season is the beginning, because we get to see the form that broke the internet that we will never see again.
Speaker 1:Vast and Lorde Ichigo man, I was so mad about that. See, that's another thing. Between that and final guess contention, I'm like bro, like he got some of those badass forms and we'll never see it again, I'm like god okay technically, yeah.
Speaker 2:So here's the thing before a thousand year blood war art, like at the end of the full bring art, we could technically still see that again, because he does wind up getting we're going to talk about it anyway he does wind up getting his own powers back at the end. But the problem is is the fact that it's it will still be modified because he now has awakened full bringer powers. But technically we could still get a final guess like his final guess potential.
Speaker 1:We can still get that oh, I just don't want to go through the whole thing to where, like, okay, technically we get it again, but the uh implication is he's gonna lose his power. But you know what we'll explain when we get to the end, because I got a whole thing about in the full bring arc anyways true, true.
Speaker 2:So I love this one because we get that moment of actually seeing. Y'all already know my favorite espada is with is. I've already mentioned that before. Oh, oh man, you know what?
Speaker 1:I like Ukiyora. He's one of my favorite too, but at this point I'm like thinking, damn, not gonna lie. I kind of like half of him, that's fair. It's between Ukiyora Grimmjow Haribil Dark, even though he died, but I still like him. We know why you like Har Grimmjow Haribel Dark, even though he died, but I still like him.
Speaker 2:We know why you like Haribel. We know why you like Haribel.
Speaker 1:I mean she's just cool. Also with Stark's resurrection, I thought it was cool.
Speaker 2:I thought it was because she was portrayed to be a fine black woman.
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, I just also liked her resurrection. I thought she was just a cool character, you woman? I mean, yeah, that's true, but you know, I just also like her resurrection. I thought she was just a cool character. You know what I mean? I hated her fight.
Speaker 2:I hated her fight. Just gonna throw that out there, literally oh, water versus ice. Oh, my goodness, she's throwing ice at me. I'm gonna melt it and turn it to water. I can't use it against him.
Speaker 1:She's throwing water at me. I'm gonna freeze it, turn it to ice, throw it back. It was literally the absolute worst. And the fifth espada, even though technically she wasn't part of the like espada of the current roster, but she was like one of the original spotter, of course no true, true yeah, but uh yeah, like it was like dang, like I can't, even though we do see some of them again in the Thousand Year Blood War. It's just more like damn. I actually like some of these characters.
Speaker 2:Yeah, cause they're well written. Like you know, you actually have good Real written characters type stuff and that's what makes it so good. Um, ukiyora is just Great at getting the job done. I isn't new that. Oh yeah, well, I've heard good. Ukiyora is just great at getting the job done. I didn't know that, ukiyora would get the job done.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I've seen that in Ukiyora too Like, oh yeah, he died, but he's still my favorite. I still like him, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:But I like how we get this fight. I like that we do get this Vastalore Ichigo.
Speaker 1:It sucks that we're never up. Actually, you know, getting him um one of the things.
Speaker 2:In a way, we kind of get to see it again in a way. We'll explain no way but um getting a full hollow. But one of my favorite things about this and I know I've told you about this, um dbz and rom and tommy at one, both those YouTubers had wound up diving into this is that if you didn't notice it before, you heavily notice it now.
Speaker 2:Ichigo literally is an RPG character. He is the solo leveler. He's just like the solo leveler. He levels up every time and we get to see his level up physically on his mask. Every time he puts on his hollow mask, he winds up leveling up, and it's because of the fact that you can see more markings on his face. So at first, when he first awakened his mask, it was almost all white and we saw like one red mark.
Speaker 2:By the time we get to this point with the vasta lorde, literally what winds up happening is next time itigo puts on his visor mask, he's nervous because he feels different. He feels like there's more hollow energy in him than there was before and he's scared about it and I like that development that he's like I'm nervous of my own power. I keep finding out that my power is stronger than I thought it was, and so then he finally gets a better not even a fool a better understanding of his power, right before isaac, right before his fight with isa. Even then he still doesn't truly know himself. He just knows everything that Aizen knows. He still doesn't know himself. Yet when we get a chance to get his final Getsuga Tenshou, the funny thing about it is the fact that it's still incomplete His final.
Speaker 1:Getsuga, tenshou, the thing about reality to where we're spending our entire lives getting to know ourselves oh, true, true, but the biggest thing for me is understanding this.
Speaker 2:He was extremely powerful. He had a one shot attack that caused him to lose all of his power and stuff, but it was still incomplete. That means that his final G to the 10 show that he used against aizen was still weak compared to what he could have actually done if he truly knew himself. When he finally like not even spoiling, but just being honest when goku when I say goku, oh my goodness, it's pretty much like goku, like it's literally ultra instant type thing, literally the exact same thing like goku. That's why I say it this way. But when ichigo finally understands himself, he understands what his power really is, where it really comes from, how it actually works. He has the power to do that final getsuka tensho multiple times and never lose his power.
Speaker 2:The only reason he wound up losing his power this way is damn near the exact same thing that happened to uryu. When uryu snapped the um, his bracelet was not the this thing on his own glove, his gauntlet so he wound up losing his quincey powers into the head. And it's like it's literally pretty much the same thing. Because you don't know your power, you tapped into a major attack into a major power boost that awakened what your power should have been earlier than you should have, and it just locked your body. Your power is technically never locked. Your powers were always still there. It's just that your body overheated to the point that, boom, you can't use it anymore because you overexerted your body. Your body is unable to tap into the energy because it hurt itself too much. And that's literally what happened, because izugo didn't just straight up lose all of his Shinigami powers immediately. It started dwindling, like in the next season after this.
Speaker 1:No, it was one for all, my hero.
Speaker 2:Exactly so. Once All Might took that one hit, then his body became too damaged. It was too damaged to properly use it, so it had to get passed on.
Speaker 1:So it's literally the same thing that happened to ichigo, and it's just the fact that some people, some people kind of read into it a little differently than what kubo actually wanted see, that's the thing, like once again, not trying to make too much of comparison other skills but he just kind of tells where bleach is like uh, one of the big three in a sense. To where, like, if you really go back and like, pay attention to bleach, there's a bunch of plot points and plot devices and whatnot. To where I'm like I've seen something like this before and you're like, well, uh, if you paid close attention to bleach, they kind of did something like this. Um, speaking of which, uh, is that all you had on?
Speaker 2:the downfall gaines betrayal thing was specifically because the fact that eisen already had the hokyoku. He wanted his revenge against eisen but he knew he couldn't do anything without damaging the hogyoku. He had hoped he would like kill aizen and destroy it, but he was nowhere strong enough. Um, but his speech to ichigo before he royally whooped his ass. I must be honest on this ichigo got his ass whooped. I felt bad about that asshole, like he was one of those ones that Gideon literally told me. He said I'm gonna tell you exactly how my Zompop toe works. He goes bonk high, he gets this little knife. He said I'm gonna tell you exactly how it works. And that's when you know that you're about to get your ass beat. When someone tells you and lays out exactly how they gonna beat your ass and then proceeds to beat your ass after telling you what they're going to do.
Speaker 1:It's like saying that you go up against somebody and I'm going to let you in on a secret and I'm like, why would you tell me this? Because I know you're not going to live long enough to tell anyone that part.
Speaker 2:Or you're like oh, it's not going to make a difference. Like I'm going to tell you, but you can't do anything about it. Anyway, what it's not gonna make a difference. Like I'm gonna tell you, but you can't do anything about it anyway, what?
Speaker 1:it's just like dang. I just I felt so bad about this. He literally lost in the technical let's be honest onto this. He lost a plot. Yeah, um, gene and eisen, honestly like not saying that I was rooting for them, but it's like, let's be real, like they only lost because of the plot. Otherwise they were like well, too well written to be like okay, well, we gotta figure out some way for them to be like quote unquote, defeated true.
Speaker 2:Last thing I mentioned, as far as Ichigo's dad situation is concerned, I was yeah, we all knew there was something more to him. Specifically, it was just it seemed too much into it. But I will say some people were very upset in the fact that during this fight, that they wanted more interaction between ichigo's dad and some of the advisors, considering the fact that apparently he was close to them. In fact, considering the fact even one of the visors I forgot her name, but you know, the young girl looking one is was his subordinate and it was like Hiyori yeah.
Speaker 2:Hiyori was one of his subordinates and it's like she was your direct under, she was your captain, she was your assistant captain. How did you not recognize her right off the bat? And some people was like, well, his face kind of changed a little bit no, the fuck it did. It's like, well, she's kind of changed a little bit, no, the fuck she did. It was like there's just something that seemed off into it.
Speaker 1:It just kind of like and also, you know, um, well, keep my. I know I'm kind of jumping, but some of them decide um pay their jobs back as captains of the soul society, which makes sense because you know there were like three spots available, um, and the rest of the, the rest of the advisors, um stayed there. I'm like, bro, like y'all could have bumped into each other At any moment, like y'all just gonna Act, like y'all don't know each other. But was that all you had?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was pretty much it. I mean, the only thing about it is Mugetsu Zangetsu. Really, you inherited the fungi.
Speaker 1:Let's be honest, like Ichigo Okay, you know what you just triggered. One of the main things that I don't like about Bleach their fights don't Okay, no, no, no, there are some good fights. I just hate it when some of these fights aren't as creative as they could be like, for the fact that I understand um for the most part, like swordsmanship, and I'm like, okay, that's cool and all. But I just kind of wish um Kido was used more in fights like, or at the very least, I just go learn a couple. He, he is like Harry Potter to where.
Speaker 1:I'm like you in this fucking uh expecto patronus bullshit or it's belly arms and all that shit. Like you in the same old spells. And I'm like bro, like you went to school to learn multiple spells like use something. You know Harry Potter wasn't a great student, but I'm just saying like it just felt so played out, like I mean, see, once again with the full bring, or I appreciate it more because at least each ghost uh got a little bit more interesting, at least in fighting style. But before that I'm like bro, like I don't, it's almost like bro. I don't know how y'all letting this dude beat you. I know he's the main protagonist, but in hindsight it just feels like I don't know how y'all let him beat, him, beat you outside of.
Speaker 2:Oh, he just has raw power and I'm like, ah, whatever, okay, whatever the only, the only thing is Urahara, yoichi, kuroichi and Isshin's fighting against Aizen. I kind of like their teamwork it's like, even though they haven't seen each other in like years. They still kind of work together, so it's pretty cool oh, was that everything? I'm my bad no, no, you did. That's it. Okay, I'm ready. I'm ready to talk about this next art.
Speaker 1:Okay, this, this bill art, at this point, these fill arts just had me rolling my eyes, but again, it's not bad on its own, just god damn it. So, essentially, like he was saying, kukigatsu Ichigo was losing his powers Not completely lost, but losing his powers but before that actually happened, well, even then, he didn't like really lost all of it, it was more like a lot of. It was like a little bit reserved detail. I'll explain that later. Before that happened, though, it's gotta be another pillar, and this time it was about the monsoons, and this time they had like ray guides, where I think the difference was they were like, okay, they're like perfect, uh, copies of some of the captains and lieutenants in the soul society, and it was like a whole thing with them. And there was also, um, two people like um, those of me and kage rosa, that's what they're, and it was something. It was 26 episodes that.
Speaker 2:I'm. Beyonce, I don't even remember this one. I remember the Foul Heart Boy, that I remember this one.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like things happen. They bought their doppelgangers.
Speaker 2:Okay, it was alright, but I'd rather go back and suffer the trauma of fighting Dart Link again and all in every single Legend of Zelda game. No.
Speaker 1:So you got nothing for this one.
Speaker 2:I don't have anything for this one, I barely I when I say I barely remember it, I'm talking about you say doppelgangers, and I'm sitting here trying to remember when did they fight a doppelganger? Did I just block this out?
Speaker 1:No, like that's the funny thing, like this was the one filler I definitely did not remember. I'm like wait, hold on. When did they fight Doppelganger? What the fuck.
Speaker 2:I'm like did I watch this? I don't remember, Look. So keep in mind this. Every filler and this is not just in Bleach, this is in multiple anime, okay, every filler arc has usually like double writers or one main writer and is generally not the creator of the manga, not the creative series, not the mangaka at all whatsoever. This is the, the anime director. It's their job to keep things going in case, like the anime has fallen is a catch up, not so not Taito Kubo, but Noriyuki Abe.
Speaker 2:Yes, so this filler arc is not Kubo, this is him. Yeah, so it's like yeah, no, just keep in mind on today.
Speaker 1:It's like you can tell Kubo had nothing to do with this arc. It's the same thing for Naruto arc it's the same thing for Naruto.
Speaker 2:It's the same thing for, like, even some of the Dragon Ball Z fillers where, like Goku and Piccolo learn to drive cars and get their license, for what fucking reason they fly? It's just. Every filler arc is usually not the mangaka, it's just, it's the animation director. They have to feel something. And to me, I'm sitting here like how about we stop filling in and start getting better quality anime? If you got time to I'm just saying if you got time to create bogus filler arts, because this, this is the first one that I've been on to you, well, we can say that no, no is filler arcs, because this, come to think of it, this, is the first one that I've been on to you.
Speaker 1:Well, we can say that you could have. No, no, you know, go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 2:I'll say this is the first time that, as far as I remember with you as we've been reviewing, we've been reviewing stuff for years that we were reviewing two filler arcs in the same episode. We're reviewing two filler arcs in the same episode. Seriously, like you see the nonsense, we could have the energy we got for this one, go ahead and had the full brain arc. You could have saved this one To start at least one arc In the thousand year blood war. I'm just saying we could have been had. I'm just saying If you clearly had enough time on your hands for this, you could have made another season of one punch man. I don't know. I'm just saying I know it's a different studio.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying yeah, that's pretty much what I was gonna say how like you could have saved money and focus on the plot and the whole series would have been better for it. Well, except for some filler arcs. Some filler arcs were actually genuinely entertaining to watch, like that was a Zanpakutou arc Outside of that, like Poorly placed yeah.
Speaker 2:But that was probably the only important aspect into this arc is understanding that Ichigo was losing his power, not straight up. And then you know, ichigo went to Soul Society Jail.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because, oh well, you know we understand that you did a lot for us, but like you're under arrest for suspicious activity, so we're gonna have to take you to jail, like you know. Sorry, man, we still like you, but rules are rules that part, that part, exactly.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, I don't have nothing for this one. I'm ready to go ahead and talk about the full brain, but if you got anything, I'm gonna go ahead and let you go nah, that was it.
Speaker 1:Like, see, I knew. Uh, since we stopped talking about the downfall eyes and like, honestly, I don't have a whole lot to say about this Breakout arc either, I feel bad. We gotta at least mention him.
Speaker 2:The downfall of Aizen, the downfall of Eisen felt more like also the downfall of Bleach, because this one was what is happening.
Speaker 1:Well, I thought so too, until I started looking to the Thousand Year Blood War arc, and I'm like OK hold on Like Bleach is kind of coming back, but then again this is the final arc of Bleach.
Speaker 1:So I'm like I can't really say it fully, but at least it's going off on a high note. But let's go ahead and talk about this full bringer arc. How you have these full bringers, these? How do they explain full bringers again outside of you know, humans with powers, but with uh execution, they didn't want their powers, they just want to be normal humans, kind of like each of those things where, um, I like how he, when uh, his friend, uh keigo was asking, hey yo, so do you ever miss rukio? And he was like hell, no, like for the first time in 16 years I'm a normal human being, like I get to have a normal life why would I um miss all that? Why would I miss her? I'm like, okay, that's a cold way to go about it, but I kind of understand where you're coming from.
Speaker 2:but after all that's how you feel yeah, it wasn't how he felt it was.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, no, no, no breakdown so yeah, yeah, I kind of get it, but like no, I, I'm not convinced. I'm like no, no, no, you can't be that cool After all that, after all that um, banter and camaraderie, like you and Rukia arguing like an old married couple which, by the way, I kind of agree with Mirajan at this point to where, knock on the line if you and Rukia as a couple kind of would have made sense, even though, I mean, I don't even know how it works exactly, but the fact that this dude is like half Soul Reaper and Rukia doesn't show any signs of aging anytime soon, I'm like it could've worked, it could've, I don't know. But point being is that, after all that, I have a random question.
Speaker 2:I have a random question. So if you sleep with a Soul Reaper and a Geek Eye, are you technically having sex with a sex doll with a soul in it?
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Alright, we're going to move on from the topic.
Speaker 1:Hey, it did like with 18. I'm like she's a cyborg, but hey, the vagina works.
Speaker 2:She's a human with robotic parts added. She's still a human, don't?
Speaker 2:do that wow this is a whole non technically living being. It's a whole giga. It's honestly, look that whole. It's just a quick segment reminding back, because this was happening like before the eyes and art, but still, the whole time when marukia was like storing everyone's gig guy inside of each of those closet and he was like, oh, there's just no room in here. It's like what are you doing? Oh, I have to, it's my job to hold on to everyone's guy and stuff. I'm just sitting here like so you just have lifeless bodies of all of these people here.
Speaker 1:I'm so sorry, go ahead, all that bantering, that's how you feel. Okay, we get that. That's not really how it feels, but anyways, his friends and family is starting to get attacked and he was like, okay, what the fuck's going on? I got no power. So I might as well hear out this stranger that helped out, uh, out on the streets and he seemed to know about my situation and whatnot. So let me just hear him out what you gotta say.
Speaker 1:So, uh, ginjo and execution, um, who's kind of inspired by english western thing. You know how like uh, the soul society is based on japanese culture. Uh, hueco mundos and all that based on, uh, spanish culture. Uh, wanderike and the quinces are based on german and in this case it's more American. With them it was kind of like with the viruses all over again trying to train, each go up to be a full bring and what not.
Speaker 1:But there was this whole plot to where Tsukishima, ginjo's associate not associate accomplice, excuse me where they had this whole plan to essentially trick Ichigo and all his family on winning Ichigo over, and then Tsukishima would alter their memories and all that other shit to where even make it seem like Ginjo was actually a good guy up until the last minute and come to find out Ginjo was the first substitute Soul Reaper, like Ichigo wasn't even the first, and that makes it kind of funny because it made me think of Yu Yu Hakusho, to where, like, yeah, so you're not the first Soul Detect, I mean Spirit Detect. There was like a guy before you, but things got out of hand with him and we lost track of him.
Speaker 2:So yeah, the only difference is that New York Hockey Show. They didn't say he was his first one. They let him know ahead of time that they did have other ones. They just didn't let him know that it's a running history that they go insane and that the one that was right before him Was the worst of all of them. That's the biggest issue. Anyway, go ahead.
Speaker 1:And essentially Ginjo's plot was to Take Ichigo's power and give it to the rest of the full brain, so they'll have enough power to Destroy the soul reaper. Because the whole thing with the soul society was that, uh, the soul society gave him the power and there was this whole thing to where, oh well, if anything goes wrong, we're gonna kill him. And then things went wrong. And then they were like, okay, well, we can't track them. So, uh, we'll make this. Uh, one day we'll have this second substitute soul reaper. I don't know that's exactly planned or not. Uh, I'm misremembering, but whole thing was, if they do have a second substitute soul reaper, maybe they'll draw out the first one that we lost track of, and then, once everything's said and done, we'll kill both of them. But with everything easier done, it was like, ah, damn, but we like this guy now. So we do. I'm like, all right, tell you what? Ah, since he did help us out a lot, we're gonna make this at the real sword and we're gonna stab him. And then we're gonna restore his powers and I'm like, okay, cool, so I'm a soul reaper now. Cool, cool, cool. So I have enough power to kill Ginjo and all that.
Speaker 1:And Tsukishima fought Byakuya and the rest of them fought some of the other soul reapers, and it was this whole thing. Can I just say that the animation got better in the full bring arc, uh or he may. Honestly, the only thing I was going to mention with uh, I kind of wish mirajane was on for this one because, um, she was saying how she finds, or he made, annoying and fat. A lot of people find her annoying and at first I was gonna be like I don't know, I don't see it. But then with the full brink arc, I won't say she's really annoying, but more like, okay, I kind of see where y'all coming from, just a little bit like she doesn't annoy me. But I can see why y'all might say she's annoying because, uh, I don't know. Just then again, I like orihime, but like it's just more like sometimes she's an airhead at the weirdest time. That's the main thing. Um, my whole thing with the full brink art, it was pretty good. Like I didn't fully hate it.
Speaker 1:It just the main thing was okay, let's make this blade that will restore his powers, and wait so I could have my powers back at any moment. I'm like, yeah, you know, you never really want your powers either. You know, um, we just plan on getting rainbow you, but you know, we started to like you, so we're gonna give you powers back. You take care of this guy, and then we'll just fuck off. And I'm like, really, I'm like yeah, yeah, oh. And also, second thing is like we do have to take responsibility for this first guy. So, yeah, uh, outside of that, once everything was said and done I know there's a bunch of details, but I'm gonna leave that to you kokugatsu.
Speaker 1:But after all, that said and done, ichigo was like let's give ginjo a proper burial because, despite everything, hey, he still was a substitute soul reaper, so let's just give him proper, proper burial. And surprise, surprise him. Tsukishima and the old guy giriko, well, got reincarnated into the soul society and everybody else who was in execution, just, you know, went on with their lives. But they came back for the thousand year blood war art when they had to fight off the wonder, right, but most part, I kind of like this art. Well, I like the fights. The fights, um, kind of felt more like fights in this one.
Speaker 1:That's why I was kind of hoping with katekyo hitman reborn, where, if they ever bring back the anime, or at least animate the last two arts of the manga, make those fight scenes very saucy, because I feel like that will give Reborn the credit that it deserves. Where, like, it could have been great but a lot of people just didn't like it Because the comedy element in the first 20 episodes. I still say it's one of those shows that should have another chance, you know, but that's a certain point. Um, the full bringer I was digging it for the most part. Like it just got kind of crazy. You know, with tsukishima convincing, uh, ichigo's friends and family that, oh, he's been a part of this whole time, and it just got kind of crazy. I felt bad for Ichigo genuinely. And you know, in the end everything turned out alright and all that. So, gatsu, what are your thoughts on the full bring arc?
Speaker 2:so the thing about it is, every time you mention Tsukishima's powers, I just keep thinking of Rick and Morty and that episode with the parasites that invade you and make you think that they were always your friends. Yeah, it's funny. You know, this came out before then, so I was just like this is a pretty interesting little plot point. But, to be honest with you, there really isn't much in details into this. This particular, uh, this particular arc is pretty straightforward, outside of just one thing what really makes a full bringer? Uh, it's a very weird situation. Uh, so, literally, becoming a substitute soul reaper is not as easy as, uh, you being able to be like part soul reaper or something like that, because clearly, soul reapers don't just, they're not like angels from the bible, where they just pop into the human world, sleep with humans and become Nephilim and make Nephilims, or the Greek gods, like Zeus, who shows up and makes half gods, half mortal heroes.
Speaker 2:It's not really what happens. It's the fact that you become a full bringer in the fact that, while you were still in your parents womb, you came in, your parents or your mother came into contact with a hollow and got hollow energy, because, remember, hollow energy is pure negative. Soul reapers pure positive, while quincy is the absolute zero. So that's why when quincy kills someone, they're literally just gone. There's no reincarnation cycle or anything like that. They're literally just fucking gone. Versus the soul reaper kills a hollow or kills someone, they can be reincarnated into the soul society and therefore being reincarnated back into human life, continuing the cycle because of the positive energy. Versus if a hollow kills someone, turns them into another hollow because the negative just continues to get more negative per se. So having these powers is tentative.
Speaker 1:Wow, it makes you think like, okay, I definitely don't want to be killed by a hollow boy. I kind of don't want to deal with the Quincy's either, because I'm like what the fuck? So I'm just yeah, that was.
Speaker 2:Gone. If a Quincy kills you, you've been erased from you, literally have been erased from existence. It's not the fact that people won't remember you or anything like that, it's just the fact that you at that point cease to be, cannot be reincarnated, if you're killed by quincy. That's why the thousand year blood war arc is so insane, because this is one of those ones of like there's no chance of. Like oh, I died in battle, it's not. There's no Valhalla after this like oh, I died in battle, I can go to heaven or hell. No, if you die from a Quincy, you're gone, you're not going to hell.
Speaker 1:It's like if we die in the game, we die for real that part, it's like you've gone straight to limbo.
Speaker 2:Like this, the non-existence. It's like what?
Speaker 1:so, yeah, I'm like yeah, that's what I like about the blood wars like it is added things and shit like bites, as we felt like bites yeah, and so when it comes down for the full bringers, is the fact that they're an anomaly?
Speaker 2:they're the virus going to the matrix, into it. They are the chosen one, which that's still debatable. I know we got to review the Matrix series and I don't know if I'm prepared to go down that rabbit hole.
Speaker 1:There's too much going on, Especially after Resurrection. I'm like eh.
Speaker 2:There's a lot, there's a lot, especially with that whole point of just Neo was never actually the chosen one.
Speaker 1:I was like what?
Speaker 2:It's just too much. It's entirely too much, anyway. So I'm not trying to go down that rabbit hole, but it's literally that point of understanding that Foolbringers are an anomaly. They're not supposed to exist, because it's one of those ones that, if you come into contact with a hollow and hollow energy per se, you've either been saved by the soul reaper or the hollow kills you. However, for some weird reason, you got a trace of hollow energy that caused you to develop a power, and that's why all of their powers are, in a sense, able to to redo something from the real world, like I can rewrite memories.
Speaker 2:That's not a power that you would have like I have the power of fire, I have super strength, I have the power of science or something like that. This is literally oh, I have the ability to retcon, I have the ability to like. Chad's ability isn't supposed to be just ultimate strength he's supposed to have like he isn't supposed to be just ultimate strength he's supposed to have. Like he is able to turn himself, he should what's supposed to happen, and unfortunately, we may never really get this unless we actually get him in hell arc and then he actually gets this and honestly, while we're talking about MCU.
Speaker 1:It's just kind of funny how you I'm sorry for interrupting, but it's just kind of funny how you I'm sorry for interrupting, but uh, it's just kind of funny how you're saying all this because it just makes me think, first of all with the tba where, oh well, you know, there are multiple timelines but there was some variance that wasn't supposed to exist and also reminded me of um spider-man, uh, across theVerse where Miles Morales, his whole thing, is like oh, you're not supposed to, you were never supposed to happen. Like your spider would go to Miles on Earth 42, but it was like a complete mistake. You're an anomaly.
Speaker 2:That part, Like it wound up jumping during the time that Peter was fighting the Kingpin and it's like, wait, what? Yeah, it was a weird thing that happened. That wasn't supposed to happen, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'll explain it in a way Okay, what the hell? Even though I want to believe that the movie's going to be good, but everything, the whole thing should make more. I'm like there's going to be some curse in that movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, there will be a lot, but yeah, yeah, there's a reason why, like these, full bringers have these, these extra abilities, but yet chad's supposed to be able to literally holify himself. His arms is is pure hollow energy, but then he's able to revert back to human form.
Speaker 1:Can I can. I can I just say that as far as as Having like arcs because, keep in mind, orihime pretty much had her arc in the Oronka arc, orihue has his arc in the Thousand Year Blood War arc Am I the only one that feels like Chad Is getting hold? As far as having like a whole Arc dedication, Heavily, hold Heavily.
Speaker 2:That's why I Literally said unless we get it In the hell arc, if we don't get anything, he's the only person that gets no development. His development was at the very beginning and that's the sad part about it, because that means that there is no development left for him it's just like Krillin's, like oh, this is all down here from here I'm like man.
Speaker 1:No, why are you going to set that up like?
Speaker 2:that it's like the ultimate Gohan type shit. Yoncha, Even back before Aizen, when they were fighting in Spada, Chad had that W with Yami. He was supposed to win and then, boom, he lost. And there's no real reasoning into it. It's just like oh, this is just as far as my power goes. I guess this is all I could do and everything. You notice the fact that this dude's arm gets chopped off all the time?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Like what he's always having to be killed by where he made. And then, yeah, or he may's power. Remember the fact that her own, her main abilities she has like three abilities and stuff Her shield when she's able to actually focus, because that's the other thing about it it's based upon her focus too. Her shield is supposed to be able to negate any attack, literally fucking golden experience from fucking JoJo's Bizarre Adventure To reduce any attack coming her direction to an absolute zero. Her shield is supposed to be impenetrable, because it's supposed to be to make it to where the attack did not exist. Her blade is supposed to slice through the dimensions per se. That's why I was like they retconned her power, because technically she was too powerful, so it was like they retconned it.
Speaker 1:The one where she had a shield. But it doesn't really like completely negated, but more like it just counters it like a magic cylinder.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, but it was supposed to like originally. Her attack came, it was negated to an absolute zero and then, yes, you. But then the retcon is changed to be like, okay, she can counter, and like push back. Or it's like yeah, like, um, even with, uh, seven deadly sins, or full counter per se. So, and even then it doesn't always work anymore.
Speaker 2:Her shield breaks now, like often, and it's like it was never supposed to break. Her shield is the ultimate shield, but the thing about it is, in order to make it more like weaker per se, she can't put the shield all around her, she can only put the shield in front of her. That was the only like flaw that they were trying to make it so that way she wasn't too op, otherwise she would have the perfect shield that every no fight would win nobody. But um, so yeah, her shield was supposed to negate everything. It was supposed to be just the absolute zero. She was supposed to be the golden experience anyway. And then, um, remember, and then her healing is not that she heals alone, she makes it as if it never happened. Literally all three of her, her three parts of her abilities, is full break it's not really healing.
Speaker 1:It's more like time regression exactly it changes.
Speaker 2:So everybody's ability is able to change the story, change life, change the balance and things, and that's why they're an anomaly. Their powers doesn't go along with the normal flow. Like uh ashta asta, with uh in his negative magic, there's no magic and stuff, but technically like. Like yeah, negative magic per se is able to cancel out you.
Speaker 2:But yeah, it's like anti-magic. It's literally the opposite per se. So that's what fool bringers are. Their powers are the ability to completely negate, rewrite and redo what happens per se. And that's why they're dangerous, Because it's like you don't have to be super powerful, you don't have to be the most powerful swordsman whatsoever. If I can change your memory to make it as though I was always your friend, you're not going to attack me.
Speaker 2:You're going to get the reason you're upset with me, at that point I instantly win. And then it makes it even worse on you because if I you to you, you're like you were my best friend, why did you betray me? And that will forever sit with you and cause you eternal like torment. Because you're trying to figure out why it is this person, who was supposedly was always your closest friend since childhood, killed you and you're trying to figure out what happened, type stuff. And that's never what happened. You just wound up walking into a fight, got caught by their ability and died and it's like what the fuck wait? So it's literally like that.
Speaker 2:Each of them is has powers that's not supposed to exist. It's completely interrupts the balance. Um, so when understanding what a full brain actually is, this is one of those ones that I this art Once. I understood it straightforward, and that's why I have to say it that way, because when you don't really know what makes a full brain and why full brains are really dangerous, this art kind of feels lackluster. It doesn't quite make as much sense. But then, once you know, like now that you know, like now you, you know a little bit more in depth. Jb, are you looking at these fights like a little bit more differently, like a little differently than before. Yeah, yeah, so that's what it's supposed to be.
Speaker 2:And so that's where one of those ones where I'm like those YouTubers helped out a lot, because this particular arc I needed DBZ and ROM to explain to me. That was it. So definitely shout out to him. But for real, I needed him to explain this one to me because I was like I think I'm missing stuff, and I was. I was clearly missing a bunch of information. That kind of just went over my head Because Ginzo did explain this to Ichigo, but it just wasn't, it didn't quite sink in to me until I'm like, okay, you explained it deeper, now I understand. And so I was like, okay, these guys actually are very fucking dangerous. The only thing that makes me mad is the fact that Ichigo's full bring of powers is bullshit.
Speaker 2:The reason to say it is this Ichigo's full bring of powers.
Speaker 1:his power is the fact that he's able to balance Soul Reaper Hollow and Quincy in his body, and this is before we even know that he's a Quincy, and I'm sorry if I kind of spoiled that for you no, I knew that if you started watching the Thousand Year Blood War arc at the very beginning, as soon as you see Yuhalok you're going to say, like that was one of the first things I knew about the Thousand Year Blood War arc, that, oh, apparently he has Quincy powers too. Okay, whatever, like I mean, think about it, he's a Soul Reaper, he's a Visored and I'm like you know what? Whatever, he was a full bring. You know what, whatever. Like, I just accepted this one. I'm like, true, but at this point.
Speaker 1:there was no surprise there was actually like explanation behind that, but like still, it's like come on, yeah, really.
Speaker 2:So yeah, so his full bring of power is the fact that his hollow soul, reaper and Quincy powers are not killing each other. In fact, they're able to mesh together, because that's what his full bringer power is, is to be able to mix positive, negative and absolute zero together.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, hold on. You mean to tell me that his full bring ability is essentially how the Skyflame functions?
Speaker 2:Yes, because without his ability he would have never existed. He technically should have died in his mom's womb, but because his full brain power Was activated at that point and made them get along.
Speaker 1:To explain that To y'all folks, since we you know, being a Hitman Reborn fan, the Skyflame Description says Storm, rain, lightning, sun, lightning sun, mist, cloud. It understands, it accepts all. So in other words, it's like saying that the Skyflame adds, like a catalyst for the other flames to kind of like add balance to the other flames. So, essentially, his ability it kind of functions in the Skyflame in the sense to where he had all these different abilities, but with a sky flame it's like you can use those abilities at once, versus like with goku dera he has five flames but he can only use like one of them at a time. So it's not like well, no, no, let me say that bad, because he can't fuse those bullets into like have like lightning flames and some flames, but like uh, maybe not full mastery, but it's like that's the whole thing. It's like a whole balancing act and uh, like you say, it probably would have killed him if he didn't have that whole catalyst thing going on exactly, exactly.
Speaker 2:So I mean, it makes sense, but it's still one of those ones like that's kind of it's kind of bullshit. You just explain it like. It's like oh, what's his powers? Oh, this is why he never died, this is why he's, he's, this is why he's everything. I hope that helps. It's like, really, that's what this one small arc is going to be. It's just that, oh, this is why ichigo is everything no, that's why I like the full bring art.
Speaker 1:It's like small art but it has enough lore to where I'm like it feels like a full art, to where I'm like you know what I'm going to let it be what it is, because at least it's better than sitting through like double the amount of episodes just for it to be like half of it to be filler. That doesn't really move the plot. I mean, I know filler arts doesn't really move the plot. I mean I know filler arcs don't really move the plot normally. But all I'm saying is like I didn't really need to watch these episodes some of them, not all of them, I'm just saying like some of them.
Speaker 1:I'm like I really didn't need to know any details about this episode and I probably would have been better for it. That's what I'm saying. But at least the fullbring arc it felt like it just stood on point, like it was a standing on business for the most part like okay, here's the plot, we're not gonna spend too much time on it. You know there's gonna be like some training to do, but it's gonna be this whole rigmarole where, like it's just all a plot to steal your powers but surprise, surprise, society had your back and they gave you your powers back and it was enough power to overwhelm Ginjo in his Bankai form and like I don't understand, like how are you able to be this strong?
Speaker 2:and I'm like you know, power of friendship now I will say Ginjo did have one big thing on his side that did actually cause problems with Ichigo. This does actually pay attention. Pay later on into the Thousand Year Blood War arc, because there's a moment into this. So Ginjo winds up literally telling him he says so, your substitute shinigami badge, right? So, yeah, this is a tracker. He says I'm pretty sure, like they gave it to you know, like, hey, use this, uh, where you can transform into a substitute soul reaper to help you out, so you can help us out and stuff. He said, yeah, yeah, this is how they track your location. Because the fact that they couldn't track me and it was like wait what? And then I don't know the crazy part is.
Speaker 1:The crazy part is he even said like I mean, yeah, he was confused at first but uh, he didn't know the combat pass was a tracker, but like he was saying that, oh well, yeah, I knew, um, all along at some point when he was fighting gijo or at some point, but he knew all along that, yeah, I knew this whole society was going to end up killing me, kind of like a whole Jujutsu Kaisen type deal. But hey, we did it before them. But yeah, like yeah, I kind of knew they were going to try to kill me after all this, but you know what I like them and I trust them. Whatever happens happens, but I trust that they're not going to kill me. I was like, damn, you trust them. I was like, yeah, you know what, you can have your powers back and we'll leave. I was like, damn, after all, that you still trust us that much. I'm like you know what? You're alright, ichigo, you can have your powers back.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry. Some of the other fights were not that great. Like I said, animation was better, but the other fights weren't really as great. It kind of just like like Renji was okay.
Speaker 1:Oh, and let me just say at the very end, like the last episode, where you, you know all that was said and done and then each wanted audience with head captain and everybody's wondering what's going on, why you want to see the head captain, and then they're probably like making assumptions, like so now you know everything. I wouldn't blame you if you said that. I wouldn't blame you if you said that you didn't want to fuck with us anymore and give us your combat pass. I didn't say all that. All I want to do is give him the proper burial because, hey, despite everything, he was a substitute soul reaper and you know, I just feel that sort of kinship in a way.
Speaker 1:So I'm like, you know, let's just give him A proper burial so he can be, you know, kind of. You know kind of give him a second chance and all that shit. But I don't think we see him, as far as I know. But uh, outside of that, you know, yeah, I'm still cool. Yo, I'll still be a substitute soul reaper because you know, carl Curitchan gonna need Somebody to look after it.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, and now the only other thing that got me is the very beginning point, so I want to talk Really quick about what you had mentioned and that Ichigo was like I don't miss Ruki and stuff like that. He was having a mental breakdown and this was one of the ones that the anime did highlight this in the first and second episode. They were leaving Ichigo out because the fact that he didn't have his powers.
Speaker 2:They didn't want to worry him, but in his mind, he was thinking yeah, they felt like man, I don't miss, only whatever I'm carrying like and so the thing about is one of the things that I mentioned at the very in our first review into this is the fact that kubo is a visual storyteller, um things for him when he does stuff in the manga and in the anime. And so there's a moment in the manga where this happens, where ichigo is asking them and during the full as well, as I asked them what's going on, and urahime or you and chad, like they kind of have like anime, does that one little face where you know it's like they kind of look away, they look kind of down and sad type thing. Like I want to tell you, but it's best that I don't type thing. Like the face just it says it says enough. Like you know people's body language and stuff.
Speaker 1:Kubo is fantastic at drawing body language where literally just he's able to literally mimic that fantastically that's another thing about Orihime, to where the way she was like animating her, like mentioning in the beginning, funny enough, to where, look at her face, like with the you know, with the eyes, you know, like threes and what not to make her face look more expressive. And I like how they kind of mentioned that canonically because, like you know, with the eyes, you know look like threes and whatnot to make her face look more expressive. And I like how they kind of mentioned that canonically because, like you know, the animation um got like a little increase in quality and whatnot. So I kind of like that little detail and going on. So, yeah, uh, they definitely like up their game visually and that makes me even more excited to watch the thousands year blood war on animated absolutely, but yeah.
Speaker 2:So it's like this is one of those ones where talking to your friends makes a difference. Don't leave them out and they had to, and I'm glad that they apologized to him for that later. Like, in all honesty, even though you couldn't help out, we know that you still at least wanted to know we're safe, we're fine. Sometimes you're like, hey, there's a holo, that's going on. Just keep thinking about us, we'll be back. We got this handled. We just want to let you know that you don't have to worry about nothing. But instead it's like they felt bad so they just started excluding him and he felt horrible for that, and gingo took full advantage of it, because during that time when they were ignoring him, then that's when they started getting attacked.
Speaker 2:Um, their memory started changing. It usually goes like something's just weird. It's like I keep hiding stuff from me. It's like you don't want to talk to me and now you're acting like a completely different person. So when you think about, when you see those moments, you're like it makes sense why he was just like you know what. No, forget that. You know y'all y'all being fake with me. Now, like I was, I was good when y'all needed me, when I had the power and I was that person to rely on, y'all could talk to me. Me, it was good. But now that I'm powerless, it's like y'all just threw me to the side, and even though that's not what happened, it's just because they never talked to him. Then, by the time they could have talked to him, they got brainwashed. It was too late. So it's like don't wait until the last minute. Talk to your friends.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like dang man, like your friends really treating you like garbage now that you lost your powers, like, yeah, you know, like you know real friends wouldn't treat you like that.
Speaker 2:That's what he did, though he legit like slid in there like a snake, Like dang. You know they leaving you out, you know they out there fighting.
Speaker 1:No, no, I'm trying to imagine, like you know, how some folks like having like that long, stretchy arm leg and just like kind of scoot over to an arm leg.
Speaker 2:That's a damn thing with your friends doing to you though, like their leg stretches, like five feet. Yeah, it's like Quickly, quickly.
Speaker 1:they just like slide into your personal spaces hey man, do you need a friend to talk to?
Speaker 2:I'm like yeah well, I'm sorry I couldn't be on for um with everyone else, but my time is running out, but otherwise I don't really have oh well we're pretty much done with.
Speaker 1:Anyways, like I said what I said about the full bringer, I I loved it, like I loved it for what it is and, with that being said, that is it for the bleep extreme review. Uh, release your segment of it. I might have mirajane and talos on for um later on, because, you know, to be fair, they probably want to say something, or I'll just include them when we do thousand year blood war art somewhere this year, assuming that they finally finish, because once again I don't know part four is going to be the last part.
Speaker 1:But here's the thing like, I still love bleach enough to where, like, if they want to go on to like part five, whatnot by all means.
Speaker 1:But I just kind of want to go ahead and get the review out the way and I kind of don't feel like doing it season by season or core by core, however you want to call it, um, because it's like I don't want to be like, okay, we did part one, two and three, and then we're just gonna wait till part four and then next, you know, part five, and I'm like, bro, I'm just gonna move, I just might do it all at once per core, so it's not very long. So, depending on how long part four is like, we can probably knock that out relatively quick, but that's gonna be later in the year at the best, because you know that's when part four comes out. But, uh, yeah, I'm done so. With that being said, kook being said, thank you for being on the show, and I do thank the dear listeners to listen to the end. So, until the thousand year blood war arc, take it easy. Y'all have yourself a good morning, good afternoon and good night.
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