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Bleach: The Xtreme Review (Part 3: Seasons 9-12)
We continue our Bleach Dream Review with an in-depth look at Seasons 9-12, covering the New Captain arc, Arrancar: Karakura Town arc, the crucial Past arc, and the beginning of the Soul Society vs Arrancar war.
• Season 9 introduces Captain Shusuke Amagai in a self-contained filler arc that ends tragically
• Nel emerges as a fan favorite character with surprising depth and an adult form that dramatically changes battles
• Uryu demonstrates impressive Quincy combat techniques, particularly during his fight with Szayelaporro
• The Past arc (Season 11) reveals how Aizen orchestrated events 100 years ago, framing Urahara and creating the Visoreds
• Kenpachi's fighting style remains unique as he dominates opponents without even using his Bankai
• Season 12 sets up the beginning of the war between Soul Society captains and Aizen's Espada
• Character designs and aesthetic choices make Bleach visually distinctive, particularly in how it portrays diverse characters
• The contrast between Urahara and Mayuri's genius creates an interesting rivalry dynamic
• Fight scenes could benefit from more fluid animation and less mid-battle conversation
• Filler episodes sometimes disrupt narrative flow by appearing in the middle of ongoing storylines
Join us next time for Seasons 13-16, featuring the popular Zanpakuto arc and leading up to Thousand Year Blood War.
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All right, continuing the Bleach's Dream Review with Seasons 9, 10, 11, and 12. And this time I'm going to be joined by Mira Jane. The Bleach's Dream Review is going to be covering the new Captain Shusuke Amagat arc, the Arrancar Bristachini Gami arc, the Past arc and arunkar feykar kura town art. Uh, what I first do, let's go ahead and zone in on that.
Speaker 1:So season nine not gonna lie with these filler arcs and it's funny, mirajan, you should have been on for the other two parts.
Speaker 1:Well, just specifically the first part, where talos was talking about how oh these fillers are are way better than the filler arts in naruto, and I'm like or at least he was saying like um, they're way more serious than the filler arcs in Naruto, and I was like, ah, actually re-watching this show, it's goofier than I remember.
Speaker 1:Like you would think, even in the series arcs, like with the Ronkar arc and whatnot, you would think it's just all gas, no brakes, but nah, they get goofy in the middle of the fights. And also they have these filler episodes where I'm like, hold the fuck on, like it's one thing with the filler arcs, but like at the end of the seasons they have like this two-part filler episode when it's like tacked on at the end to kind of be like, okay, gonna take a break and do like some random bullshit. And I'm like, bro, I just just feel a little jarred because I'm sitting here looking at this episode, thinking or he may should be um captured by the iran car, like um being watched over by ukiyora, and then next thing you know, here she is back in school like nothing happened and I'm like what the fuck? And like they're like okay, yeah, go ahead and go to school for like two days and then come back bro, I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 2:I I agree with you. I got there because bleach has messed me up. Okay, bleach done. Oh my god, I literally okay. So first time I started watching bleach. This is the only time I'm going to refer to, like the past seasons. I first started watching bleach right, and I hadn't known. I knew about bleach, but I couldn't get into it until like the summer, and so I started binging it and I made it to a goddamn filler arc. I did not know it was a filler arc yeah, I can do a lot of.
Speaker 1:It's like anime exclusive listen, listen I. I didn't read manga at that time okay I, I understand.
Speaker 2:I feel like people are yelling at me right now. It's fine. I didn't read manga at the time, okay, so I'm watching it. And when I say I was so confused because I can't remember exactly which filler arc it was, but I think it was the bout arc oh, you mean the soul suckers, the stand users Bruh bruh, I literally was so confused Because I was like did they defeat Aizen already? Like what?
Speaker 1:Nah, they literally were like, okay, now we're going to take a break, bruh. But yeah, you know, we just out that uh aizen was like this grand master planner and I'm like, oh, bro, mirajan, you should have been on when I did other parts where I was like it was aizen all along. And I'm gonna be saying that in the season 11 because I'm like, bro, like, okay, it's the fact that uh urahara, he developed the giga, a special, different kind of giga, and essentially developed the hokyoku and all that, like he didn't really mean for it to be for nefarious purposes. But I then was like I'm gonna look over your career with great interest and be like, all right, I'm gonna just copy your nose and try to make, um, uh, replicate the whole holification process so I can make the iran car and uh, uh, it's bought and all that.
Speaker 1:You know, all part of the grand master plan. And, by the way, I'm gonna, um, make sure that you get blamed for it, yo, but, uh, hold on, hold on. But the fact of the matter is that with uh Aizen, like he straight up not only knew everything but planned for everything, and even up until like the part where, okay, they arrive into the fake Karakura town. Uh, the rest of the uh squad captains pull up ready for him. And then he was like I knew y'all would do something like this.
Speaker 2:I'm like bitch, like you, mother I just got my goddamn nurse, isaac. Isaac pissed me off every day. I could not wait for him to die. I was praying on his downfall. Okay, because, every goddard, step it away. I'm gonna flip the chess board on you. I know what you're gonna do.
Speaker 1:Listen here, listen here, lay loose, shut up shut up, I don't get on my nerves I kind of agree with tell to the sense where I like eisen as a villain, like as a well-written villains, where I'm like, oh yeah, he's not only like um. I I don't know if he's exactly strong. It's not before the Hogyoku, I don't know, I don't really know the scale with Bleach honestly, um. But the thing is he is not only fairly strong, you know, strong enough to be a captain, but the fact that he's smart enough to play 40 sets with just about everybody, like it was just crazy. And really I was right there with you to where.
Speaker 1:My first time around this was back when Bleach was brand new to the States, like brand new, like we just heard of Bleach by then and I was trying to keep up with the plot when it was like on TV. But yeah, I got lost. Sometimes too, I wonder what the fuck is going on. But I am so glad we're in the age of streaming services where I could just binge the whole shit if I wanted to. And now that I'm piecing together the plot more, I'm like the story is fairly good. I just hate that with these filler arcs and these filler episodes it kind of distracts itself. Like it's kind of hard to kind of stay focused on what the main plot is when they kind of do these side tangents. But hey, to be fair, I don't blame them for having to shoehorn in that one, um, you know, with all the girls with the bathing suits and whatnot, I bet you don't.
Speaker 1:Somebody hold me back. I bet you don't.
Speaker 2:Okay, all right, let's go ahead and get this out of the way. I hate Orihime, can't stand him. Can't stand him.
Speaker 1:I just don't understand why.
Speaker 2:You know why I hate Orihime?
Speaker 1:I actually know you can guess.
Speaker 2:Okay, you know what? Orihime? I just don't feel like she should have existed. And not only that, but she ruined the best relationship that was supposed to happen.
Speaker 1:Don't tell me, you were like what about Ichigo and Rukia? And I'm like I mean yeah.
Speaker 1:I thought so too, but then again I'm like that means that what would be like rukia just lives in the actually, yeah, that could have worked. Because I mean, no, hold on. Because with the past art, we know that uh urahara got exiled from the soul society even though he wasn't really the cult well, he was developing, like working on it, but like he wasn't trying to make the visors into the visors, like that was aizen's doing. But you know, urahara got blamed for that. And then yorichi the only reason why she got exiled was just to defend her friend, uh urahara so they were like living in the world of living for a hundred years.
Speaker 1:So I'm like it's not that it's not impossible yeah, it's not impossible for rukia to be like, hey, yo you know what, let me just live in the world, living. I'm like, ain't like, I'm gonna age but no, we get. Goddamn orhime okay, to be fair, yes, I probably would have liked each girl with rukia better, but I thought you gonna say that, oh, don't tell me you gonna be one of those folks that saying that Orihime is useless. Hold on, wait a minute. That power of hers is very useful, like but she's useless.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean like her power, like okay, I mean hold on.
Speaker 1:I can't really say that until I see thousand year blood war. I didn't see that yet, but uh, once I do, then I'll say like okay, yeah, to be fair, she, she fumbled her power.
Speaker 1:Yeah she fumbles her power in these episodes yeah, it's almost like she's undercooked right now, so like she barely even know what her full scope is. So it's like okay, uh, I'll give you that much for now, mj, but until I see a thousand year blood war, I can't really say she fumbled yet. I just need to see what she does in this final leg of the story and then I'll be like okay to she bummed.
Speaker 2:You are, or he may sympathize with Spock.
Speaker 1:It's fine, I'm giving her a chance until I see the rest of these episodes, okay. I'm not going to catch judgment until I get caught up, okay, but you know who's not useless. Nell, oh, I fucking love now man I do too like she's funny at first.
Speaker 1:And oh, by the way, I was not expecting her voice, even in her adult form, to be like so soft. It's like. It's kind of like that soft, delicate voice, is like almost like that asmr voice. I'm like, god damn, I can just like I don't know what it is, but I I just like now, especially her adult form, I'm like, yeah, she could get it in adult form.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm like it is a damn shame that all nori tore it um, pretty much like nerfed her, uh, split her skull open and shit. I'm like that's what you look like when you're an adult. I'm like why can't we get more of that? I mean, we kind of do get more of that thousand year blood war, but uh, yeah, I'm just saying we do, we do, we do, and like no surprise, the crap out of me.
Speaker 2:That was for me season 10. I know we didn't talk about season 9 yet, but I mean, okay, hold on wait a minute, let me just go ahead and knock that out of the way new captain show up this princess type um chick from the soul society, um decided to um visit the world of living.
Speaker 1:Uh, ichigo is thrown into the plot where, okay, this uh royal advisor guy is trying to abduct the princess for various purposes. There's a new weapon called the bakuto that's supposed to counter the zanpato. Uh, new captain thought that head captain murdered his father, but naturally, uh, his father was possessed by the bakuto and it's all a misunderstanding. Uh, he realized oh shit, I fucked up. I'm a misunderstood situation. I'm gonna go ahead and end myself done. That's season nine. Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's season 9. Yeah, that's season 9.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, anything you want to add on to that Mirajane Anything I mean it was a filler, All right. Well, there you go.
Speaker 2:Season 10.
Speaker 1:That sounded so hard. I mean, I even even said in the first two parts, I'm like I do not care for these fillers, honestly, like okay, they're not bad. I'm not saying they're terrible, it just they all right. You know self-contained stories where I'm like it doesn't really advance the plot per se, maybe like it gives little callbacks in the filler episodes, like later on, or maybe like mentions in the main episodes, but even then it's like and it doesn't really move the plot that much outside from okay, it was something for them to do until you know the anime, um, get enough distance away from the manga, because sometimes it be like that when anime and manga is too close together. That's why, with One Piece, sometimes the manga gotta take on hiatus but the anime still going. Meanwhile, the anime might go on hiatus but the manga still going.
Speaker 1:You gotta have that gap so that way more episodes can be produced. You don't want to be like Game of Thrones, where you're like you're just making shit up at the last minute because oh, oh, shit, no more books, we gotta have to make shit up, and then look what happened with the last season. So, give them space, give them time. I get it, but why, though. With these filler episodes specifically, I'm like the way you placed them, though I would understand if it was a clean break from one arc, but you just like slapped me right in. I'm still mad that straight up in the middle of a fight they were like quarter open. Hey yo, something's going on in the world. We gotta go take care of it. They're like side quest. We'll be right back.
Speaker 1:Bro, bro, I could not believe that I would understand if it was like, okay, they just got through, but no, mid fight, no, we gotta take care of something real quick no, okay, you know what.
Speaker 2:I do have something to say about season nine. How in the world is the goddamn villain ends up killing him, goddamn? So we went through all of that.
Speaker 1:It was 22 episodes well, think, no, no, think about like this. It was think of eternals with how, um, what's his face? Uh, yeah, I forgot it, chris, was it? No? Um, you know the one who flew too close to the line yeah that guy yeah, um, he was like oh man, I feel bad for what I did. It was all a misunderstanding and alright, I'm just gonna go ahead and off myself, because I just feel bad about it. I get it, I get it but it's my pride, you know, I'm like okay, bro.
Speaker 2:I get it but.
Speaker 1:I mean you could sit around like it's gonna be water under the bridge and like you killed anybody yet. So I'm like like I.
Speaker 2:Just it was all a misunderstanding, right, and I'm not gonna lie though. Uh, shusuke was kind of cool. I did enjoy him.
Speaker 1:I didn't expect him to be the bad guy, the secret bad guy. That was my problem. I was like man, he seems so cool and then nothing in awe, god damn right and I did.
Speaker 2:I like that part. But then at the same time I was like man, he seems so cool, I'm like nothing at all, god damn Right. And I like that part. But then at the same time I was like dang, but now he gotta kill himself.
Speaker 1:So I just, oh shit, Well, it is a self-contained filler art. So it's like, oh well, we can't have this new captain, when it was supposed to be a filler art.
Speaker 2:so that's true, that's true. That's true. He's gotta go away. It makes sense. But I got it. I got it.
Speaker 1:It was just kind of cool in concept, though.
Speaker 2:It was a good concept. I just think. I just think that I wish he could have been put in jail.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like. You know, oh yeah, we got to lock him up and like, yeah, you're not going to see him for a very long time. We might re-release him during, like another fill of art, but outside of that, no.
Speaker 2:You're not going to see him. You know what I mean. I think that would have been. Look at her trying to rewrite the script I mean we're not rewriting the manga. So I think we're good.
Speaker 1:But hey, real quick. Season 10 had, dare I say, my favorite combination of both opening and ending theme songs. Yeah, I like Aquatons, especially when they did the sixth one. What was it Alone?
Speaker 1:You know the one that goes oh that one, yeah, I like that one for sure. But then like volanica too, I was like, oh man, this guy, uh, some kind of style to it. You know, that's what I like about bleach is like say whatever you will, but we definitely have an aesthetic or styles like it's definitely unique in its own ways, like the characters have drift, uh, character design like um, the facial features and whatnot definitely have some attention to detail, very visually appealing and whatnot. I just kind of wish the fights were I don't know. I wish some of the fights were like a little bit more fluid, like more action packed.
Speaker 1:You know like kind of the fight, you know like with the sword swinging, whatnot, kind of like you can feel the weight of the attack to whatnot. Like you know, it kind of reminds me of all hitman reborn all over again to where, like it's a really good anime. But if the fight scene really felt more like fight scenes, then people would love that more, like see, that's what? Demon slayer as much. I kind of hate to say because I still like demon slayer but it's still shiny keys the anime to me at least with demon slayer though, it's so visually appealing it's like even if you say that the story is mid visually with the fights. It's like it had you locked in. You actually want to see how things played out. So that's why, with bleach and hitman reborn, I feel like if the fights had a little more tension going on, if it didn't feel more telegraphed in a way, then yeah, they do leave a lot of room like it's like they're letting the fight breathe, but we don't need the fight to breathe and at the same
Speaker 1:time. It's one thing when naruto does it in his own show, but half the time it feels like these characters are doing a whole lot of talkutsu in middle fight. So I'm like I kind of want to see somebody like just standing on business, none of that Talk, no Jutsu. Just you know, just straight sword swinging, like either sword swinging, keto, blast something, and like y'all need to cut it out with all this blah, blah, blah every episode before you actually like do a couple of swings and misses and you wanna show off your bankai and shit. And then more blah, blah, blah, yap, yap, yap.
Speaker 2:I'm like my god dog.
Speaker 1:I still love this anime, but god damn. I like we said many times before on this podcast, even if you love something, it is okay to criticize it, and even if you hate the shit out of something, to be fair, I'll give it credit for what it does, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you have to give credit where credit is due.
Speaker 1:But season 10, this is where, okay, you essentially have Ichigo and the gang trying to rescue Orihime, of course, but of course, the other, some of the other squad captains show up like Kenpachi, Unohana, uh, fuck, some of them escapingohana, fuck, someone's escaping me already, byakuya, and I can't think of one person. Oh, yeah, kurosuchi. They show up to Hueco Mundo to help out with the whole fight and all that. And I want to say, for the most part, the fights, they were okay, you know, all right. Uh, mainly the main one, for me at least in this season, was uh nori tora versus, no for sure, I would say um Zylox bro versus Um Uriu.
Speaker 1:Oh, by the way, can we talk about Uriu real quick? How like Uh, say what you will about him. I do like his techniques, though it definitely Got style, going on to where I especially like um sometimes, where He'll um Pull out these bladed weapons, and Even uh fought that one Bitch, um, that one moth looking bitch, and she would like, he would like. By the way, I never said they were swords, it was just bladed weapons and he actually shot her with all that fucking blade and also, uh, with zahar bro. Uh, he had like this hexagonal pattern going on to where, like he just dropped that little bit, drop a racey down on the ground and I was like Hell yeah, when it comes to technique, uriu definitely Got that sauce.
Speaker 2:Yeah, uriu, I ain't gonna lie, uriu made.
Speaker 1:You know the he made me like.
Speaker 2:He made you like glasses wearing dudes yeah he was the reason girls became attracted to anime dudes with glasses. He switched the game up cause he has. Even though he's quiet, even though he's kind of a stick in the mud, he got swag, especially when he's quiet. Even though he's kind of a stick in the mud, he got swag, especially when he's fighting. He's so creative. He gonna survive. First of all, one thing he gonna do is he gonna figure out how he gonna live and he gonna kill you. I think that's the difference. I agree with you. That fight was really awesome. That was a really awesome fight.
Speaker 1:Honestly, I want to see Chad have more potential Because, you know, he got the left-right going on for him and I kind of like him as a character. You know, like he's Essentially he got hollow powers, but I like to think of him as the hollow with a heart because even though, yeah, he has those hollow powers, he's actually like a solid dude, like you know, a gentle giant, so to speak.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Who else? Nils Fraksjön. You know those other two guys? Uh, what was the name? What was the name? Well, it doesn't matter. Uh, they were kind of annoying at first, but once you realize the backstory between behind our nail, those other two, uh, it was don chica. And what was the other guy's name? I forgot already.
Speaker 1:Uh, you know the guy that looked like a dung beetle, I hate to say it, but yeah uh, once you um realized their backstory and why they were like following around now, it was like oh shit, okay, I kind of understand now uh, pesci, that was his name oh yeah, pesci, pesci, yeah, okay, pesci, kind that was his name.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, pesci, yeah, okay, pesci, kind of got on my nerves.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because he can Come on dog really.
Speaker 2:He kind of got on my nerves, but the loyalty that they had to Nell was absolutely. It was really sweet and it makes so much sense the fight between Byakuya and that seventh Orankor on Zomari. I guess it's alright what were your thoughts?
Speaker 1:that was the thing it was like. I guess it's not right. Warrior thought that was the thing. It was mainly Noritoro versus Ichigo and Nel. That was the headliner fight for this season. Not saying that the other ones were bad. It's more like that fight definitely overshadowed all the others when it came down to stakes and shit, because it was looking kind of bad for both Ichigo and Nel. But then things turned around when Kenpachi showed up, so that was like the main fight for season 10.
Speaker 2:That's true, and anytime Kenpachi shows up, we know what they're thinking about.
Speaker 1:I still geeking about how the fact that keep in mind he was swinging with one arm the whole time but then he was like, okay, I see you're one of those strong guys. So, even though I don't like doing it, but head captain insisted, alright, so check this out. You know how in Kendall, right, Mm this out. You know how in Kendo, right, you hold the sword with both hands because you're stronger with both hands, right.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:Tori. Tori was like no duh, like what are you trying to say? And I'm like you notice how it's only to me that you have one arm right and I'm like you notice how I was going to use one arm right. So he was like okay, let me just get serious and hold it with two hands.
Speaker 2:And then I, oh shit crazy to me that Kenpachi was just like. I just need my other hand, if you think I'm need my other hand.
Speaker 1:If you think I'm throwing with one hand, imagine what I can do with two hands.
Speaker 2:First of all, can we talk about how Kenpachi just never. He never pulls out his bankai because he doesn't even know his bankai from his whole entire season, the whole entirety of Bleach. Kenpachi is just strong with two hands.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's kind of the thing that I like about him is where the fact that he's so strong that he doesn't need a Bankai that just makes him more interesting, especially the fact that with his eye patch, like the thing is, it's not that he even lost an eye, it's more like it's a seal to uh keep his spiritual pressure in check. Because once he moves that eye patch, you see that um yellow beast type aura showing up and that's when you tell he's getting real serious, like he usually don't get that serious since he fought Ichigo. That's why he kind of has that metaphorical boner for Ichigo. I'm like I need you alive, boy, so that way we can fight. I can't have you dying out here. You didn't fight me yet. You didn't fight me for real yet. I need you.
Speaker 2:I need you to live.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that was pretty much season 10 for me. You have anything else to add on to season 10?
Speaker 2:No, no, no.
Speaker 1:Got you Season 11,. I pretty much already explained it, but, honestly, this is one of the filler episodes that I actually genuinely like because, to be fair, this is actually canonical. Like we had to know this either way yes, and it didn't feel.
Speaker 2:This didn't feel like a filler episode, so it wasn't even that long yeah, it didn't feel like a filler arc, and not to mention how long were we wondering okay, what is your heart deal?
Speaker 1:yeah, like how, how does he know all this shit? Uh, how you know about soul reapers and whatnot? Turns out that he was not only one he. He made all the way up to captain Aizen was um Shinji's, um lieutenant.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:In fact, mayuri. Mayuri was um fuckin' Urahara's um second in command until Urahara got exiled, and then that's how Mayuri ended up getting into 12th Division, um captain with um research and whatnot. Urahara paved the road for Mayuri to walk down it.
Speaker 2:Facts, facts.
Speaker 1:It just so wild. That's why I'm saying between Urahara and Aizen it was them, all along it was, and but then you know what else?
Speaker 2:too, Urahara and Aizen, it was them all along it was. And. But then you know what else too? Urahara was also a genius.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, like see, he was one of those low-key genes where he back in the day, honestly he was one of those main examples of born to dilly-dally.
Speaker 2:Yeah, born to dillyilly dally, yeah, yeah, born to dilly dally yeah.
Speaker 1:Because you know he was such a goofball. But at the same time he's an assassin from the Keto Corps, so I'm like the fuck.
Speaker 2:But he was born. Sure deal boy and you know, I think that's why I'm, like it, always kind of feel like Mayuri hates him, because of that Because he has this like Mayuri's also extremely intelligent, obviously, but it's like he didn't have the ability to chill. It's like he was hating on Orr Howard the whole time, Like how come this nigga know how to chill and be smart.
Speaker 1:Now let me say that on the biggest here I hate the way you talk. I hate the way you talk.
Speaker 2:I hate that you so smart, oh my God.
Speaker 1:And not only that, but or hard was doing something that I don't think I think my yuri could have never, ever figured out making a geek guy.
Speaker 2:That can't be, yeah, society yeah, I don't think and I honestly, truly think that I think Mayuri continues to chase that, even after it's almost like that Vegeta mentality to where I'm like I consider you a rival.
Speaker 1:I'm like I'm only hating on you because I'm trying to surpass you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I think once he surpasses him, quote, unquote um, if he does surpass him, whatever, then it's. I don't think he really can, though you can't, I don't think he's not, I don't think so, but that season 11 was, was worth it. It was worth it for it to be. Uh, I don't even consider it filler. You're right, it's not even filler.
Speaker 1:It's a part of the story that we needed to know, all of you, it was like fairy tale zero to where, even though it was late into the series, it was like to be fair, we had to. We had to know eventually, like what the hell going on? Like how did all this even happen? You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Facts, honestly, in Fairchild, season zero dropped at a perfect time. In Fairytale, yeah, it was a perfect drop. Like this was a perfect drop, it happened. Season 11 was a perfect nice seven episodes. We understand everything now at this point. And now let's continue.
Speaker 1:let's go to season four and we also know why the visors wanted to help Ichigo take down Aizen, because Aizen's the reason why they are visors yeah, and Urahara has been working on how to change them back to normal.
Speaker 1:Yeah, goddamn, so many layers to this shit. Like, see, I thought from this point on I thought with Naraku, the way he was fucking around with the love life of Inuyasha and Kikyo, the way he pretty much brainwashed Kohaku and um Sango made it her whole mission to try to um and Kikyo, the way he pretty much brainwashed Kohaku and um Sango making it her whole mission to try to um, get Kohaku away from him, and all that shit. Like you think that with Naraka he was um like this master planner, um fucking with the lives of everybody else? No, no, no. I dare say he got he been dethroned by Aizen because Aizen's influence Ran so deep. It was like Masterclass, honestly.
Speaker 2:It really was it. It really Truly was Because Aizen, not only low-key, manipulated his way to becoming a captain.
Speaker 1:And actually the crazy part is, even though he manipulated his way to becoming a captain in reality it's more like with Shinji he chose Aizen to be his lieutenant because he knew that Aizen was tailing him like spying on him and shit. But Aizen was like oh well, I wanted you to. I mean, to be fair, I could have declined being your lieutenant even though that was a rare occasion I could decline. But you know what? I wanted you to pick me. I want you to keep me close, because that's the best way to fool you, while the whole time y'all had this fake Aizen tailing you. Meanwhile, the real me was working in the shadows trying to set things up.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:Crazy.
Speaker 2:Aizen is crazy. Aizen is absolutely insane. And Gein, oh my God, crazy eisen is crazy. Eisen is absolutely insane and gene.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, it's gene. Uh, gene and kaname. Honestly, okay, first of all I was not ready to see gene like as a kid. I'm like, okay, that's different. But then kind of made, kind of surprised me, to where he had like, oh, I don't know what it was, but it was like this weird, like crown shaped afro with um mask and shit. I'm like, okay, that's almost looking like that's different yeah, he looks like something straight from the yakuza yo, I was not ready for that one.
Speaker 2:I wasn't ready for that one. I'm not even gonna lie to you it's almost like you know what.
Speaker 1:I'm kind of glad you got your new trip because I'm like, I mean, I'm not saying it's that bad, but compared to what he looked like nowadays, I'm like, okay, I kind of feel that you, um, I just like the new look better, you know.
Speaker 2:He look better. I ain't go off. He look better. You know what else too, and I don't. I hope this doesn't sound too bad, but bleach makes black people look good.
Speaker 1:Oh, hell yeah, um, especially um, one of the girls from Hard Bell on practicing well hard.
Speaker 2:but uh, the other girl, um, with the brown hair, yeah, that's like they bleach was the, for me, the first anime that I've seen where I was like dang I could cosplay a berry gun too.
Speaker 1:He's black. Um oh, whoa, without a doubt, um bro. Like to this day, people are still got it. They still got it bad for yorichi, like rgeku too, but especially yorichi like the fan art alone. I see more fan art of yorichi than any other uh character from bleak.
Speaker 2:I'm like that that, not that, not that, that's a baby but, uh, season 12.
Speaker 1:My bad, we got so lost I don't know we finished talking about season 11. Season 12 Essentially they're now in the fake. The fights are breaking out. Yeah, season 12, essentially, okay, they're now in the fake. Kurochana, the fight's breaking out. The captains and the lieutenants, or whatever, they're fighting again.
Speaker 1:Kawahiri, stark, barragan, tia, harville Fraction members, and for the most part you know, they're just doing their own thing with these fights, like, honestly, I won't say not much happened, like not saying it was bad, just more, like you know, they started the war. It was like a warm up to the main conflict. Meanwhile Ichigo was ready to confront Ukiroa, to rescue Orihime, crazy enough. I just don't have a whole lot to say about season 12 other than, okay, now everybody's fighting everybody. It's like pretty much the soul society versus the Iran card at this point. It's like the much the Soul Society versus the Iran card at this point. It's like the starting of the war, you know, kind of like the Choice arc and Hitman Reborn to where, yeah, you know they're fighting each other, but the real interesting parts then start until like season 14. Yeah, because season 13 is with the Zanak Toe arc and honestly, that's my favorite filler arc out of all of the films.
Speaker 1:That's my favorite, but we'll talk about that in January when we close out this part of the Bleach's Dream review. And do Thousand Year Blood War in like next December. But um view. And do Thousand Year Blood War in like next December, but um MJ do you have?
Speaker 2:anything to add on to season 12? Um, yeah, I, I agree with you. There wasn't a lot going on in season 12, especially in regards to fights, but we do get to see uh, yumi, chika and Charlotte oh yeah, he, we do get to see Yumi, chika and Charlotte.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, he uses real Zanpato name. That's the funny thing about these Squad 11 guys. It's like, oh, don't tell anybody. I have a bankai. All right bet, oh, don't tell anybody. My Zanpato's real name. All right bet, oh, don't tell anybody. And then as we figure out that I have All right bet, oh, don't tell anybody. I didn't actually figure out that I have a bonka I'm like, okay, y'all got some weird secrets, but okay, tag.
Speaker 2:Tag.
Speaker 1:I mean, who am I going to tell? But okay, You're not wrong. And why?
Speaker 2:does it have to be a secret? Why did that I?
Speaker 1:don't know, like I guess. Oh, what do you?
Speaker 2:got wait. I know why, I know why it has to be a secret, but I can't say, I just remembered why. I don't want to spoil anything so I'm going to shut up, but yeah, no, I really that part. It was nice to see Kazumi Chika. I just didn't take him seriously at all, like ever, and I guess you know you finally get to see him fight like actually fight, and it was good. I think that part was it was actually kind of and he did fight. I'm not gonna lie that charlotte should have been in. Um jojo, charlotte belongs in jojo jojo or either boa Bo, one of them, he does not belong here. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I can see that Alright. With that being said, that's all we have. So, Mirajane, I do thank you for being on the show with me. The next part's gonna be season 13 through 16. And then it's gonna be the Thousand Year Blood War. Can't wait to talk about that.
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