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Captain America: Brave New World - The Burden of Living Up to a Legend
Can the Marvel Cinematic Universe continue to captivate audiences in its ever-expanding landscape? In this lively episode, we embark on a journey through "Captain America: Brave New World," dissecting its connections to beloved Marvel projects and drawing unexpected parallels to anime, particularly "My Hero Academia." Join us as we share behind-the-scenes tales of Anthony Mackie's rise as Captain America, alongside Harrison Ford's intriguing turn as Thunderbolt Ross, while questioning the political dynamics leading to Ross's presidency post-Secret Invasion.
What might the future hold for the MCU as we speculate on plotlines and character developments? Listen in as we ponder the potential for Red She-Hulk, the Leader, and a thrilling Hulk sequel, celebrating Giancarlo Esposito's remarkable presence. Our discussion takes on a humorous twist, envisioning political showdowns and considering the possibilities for the New Avengers and Ironheart. All the while, we emphasize the significance of diverse storytelling and representation of Black superheroes, offering a hopeful glimpse into the MCU's evolving narrative.
The episode wraps up with a light-hearted critique of the Leader's appearance and a playful exploration of fan-made movie potentials. We exchange energetic banter about the Marvel Cinematic Universe's current state, reflecting on missed opportunities and hidden gems within recent films. Whether you're a die-hard Marvel fan or a casual viewer, this episode promises an engaging blend of critique, humor, and admiration for the superhero saga that continues to unfold.
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Captain America Brave New World. Well, it's out now and just in time for President's Day. Well, even though we're reviewing it after President's Day, I wanted to do it on that day, but you know, whatever things happen, shit comes up. But we're here now, so, tuck, let's go ahead and talk about this movie essentially with Captain america brave new world. It kind of follows after falcon winter soldier, but I want to say that it also kind of ties into the incredible hulk and the eternals and in a way it kind of tried to replicate the same juice that captain america winter soldier had, but not quite like. It kind of felt like a incredible hope to movie in disguise but they can't really call it that because universal and all that um legal bullshit, and I'm going to explain that a little bit more. But like, let me get your initial impression, like what was your impression of the film before we dive into the plot well, I always gotta relate stuff to anime, so it definitely reminded me of my Hero Academia, and let me tell you why.
Speaker 2:Now, when it was giving me Endeavor all my vibes because sam, true enough is not steve rogers, but when you know when you second place and you gotta try harder just to make sure that you number one, even though everybody know you really ain't number one, make sure that you number one even though everybody know you really ain't number one, that's exactly what the vibes I got from it, like, without him having the super soldier serum and without him being like worthy, quote, unquote, like Captain America, was it that? That's what it gave me. It is similar to um Iron man, but without the witty one liners. Because you know, it's the vulnerability of being human.
Speaker 2:I feel that that's the vibes I get from it, just his initial assessment of it, but he ain't no RDJ.
Speaker 1:I got you. Hey, you know what, since we're talking about my Hero Academia, it's funny that you brought that up because the vibe I was getting's the funny thing, it goes back to endgame, where sam just received the seal from steve. And the funny thing is, behind the scenes, chris evans was telling anthony mackay hey, yo, did you see the grip frame game? And I was like no, and I was like, oh, y'all, don't worry, don't worry about it, you'll be fine.
Speaker 1:And see, the thing was Chris Evans knew what was going to happen, like you know, floor-wise, where he knows that Sam ends up taking the mantle. But Anthony Mackie didn't know that. So that looked like you know what it really looked like. Chris Evans was all Mike, when he was going up against All For One and he was losing his power, he did United States of Smash and then he looked at, pointed his fingers like you're next, and Anthony Mackie was the only one who took it differently. He thought his character was going to die, but no, no, no, no, you don't understand what that meant. Everybody else knew, but he didn't know what it meant. It was really ironic in that way where it reminds me of that moment where Anthony Mackie took it the wrong direction, even though we knew he was going to eventually become Captain America. So that's what I got from this.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a fact. The movie was damn packed with a lot of different Easter eggs too. I really liked it. A lot of callbacks too. What do you think of Harrison Ford?
Speaker 1:I think he did alright. For what Ford? Hmm, I think he did alright for what he was given. I think his performance was fine.
Speaker 3:I mean he was doing his thing.
Speaker 1:But here's my thing as the character Thunderbolt Ross, I found it kind of suspicious how he became president so quick. Because here's the thing, it's almost as if this movie glossed over Secret Invasion and, to be honest, that's kind of fair, because Secret Invasion it was just not it. It was just not it. I don't even blame you if you didn't watch it. I'm like not a whole lot happened, honestly. Yeah, like they kind of glossed over the fact that the president, president Ritson, was heavily involved in secret invasions and even if, yeah, he turned out to be a Skrull and whatnot, I'm like kind of wondering, well, how did ross get the presidency so fast?
Speaker 1:But here's the thing, he had help from the leader and I kind of wish that thomas madge was on for this one, because way back when we did the mcu extreme review, I was so fucking heated that my blood was boiling at the fact that we didn't have that many hulk movies after the incredible hulk, because the main thing was because the universal right. But my whole thing is with incredible hulk it set up a whole lot of shit and, honestly, brave new world set up a whole bunch of uh, opportunities too, but it kind of missed it in this movie, but it kind of set things up for future movies. Let me explain an incredible hope samuel stearns the doctor, right, he becomes the leader in the comics. And let me be honest with you, the leader in the comics. He's not that much of a looker with jimutron looking head ass, but, um, compared to the MCU version I'm like I kinda would've preferred the comic book version, like if you were like comic book accurate, because the MCU version looking like a reject teenage mutant, ninja turtle motherfucker you, looking like the lizard came out the copier wrong. Teenage Mutant, ninja Turtle motherfucker, you looking like the lizard, came out the copier wrong. Jesus Christ, just.
Speaker 1:But I did appreciate that they brought him back With Ross. I want to say my only issues that I kind of wish we had more of Red Hulk. But I also can't understand why they wanted to save that for the final fight. It's just eh, even then the final fight just wasn't. I mean it was okay but it wasn't gas Like, like I kind of knew that no way sam will be able to beat red hulk with bruce brink clone. But it's even funnier to have bucky showed up in this film, gave him some words of encouragement and whatnot, when sam was having some doubts about being Captain America. And my favorite joke in the whole film, I won't say was when Sam was like I should have taken that serum, but it's full of shit, but yeah you know what I agree?
Speaker 2:I definitely wish he would have took it.
Speaker 1:But you know what? I am kind of glad that Ross tried to do the right thing by Resigning. He willingly gone to the rap to, you know, serve out his sentence. He got his reunion With Betty. Did you know that Betty Is supposed to be Red She-Hulk?
Speaker 3:What yeah?
Speaker 1:Yeah, a whole lot of potential Going nowhere with it.
Speaker 2:Nowhere with it. I don't understand how they just gloss over the fact that what president willingly just gives up their power and go to jail. Come on now.
Speaker 1:I mean to be fair, he didn't even want the power Hold on. I'm going to try to explain that in just a moment. Uh, mirror jane, welcome to the podcast. You made it just in time. How you doing? Yeah, we're doing good, uh. So, uh, what's your impression of captain america New World? We were just about to really dive into the plot, but I'm glad you made it just in time for that. What were your thoughts on the movie?
Speaker 3:It was so good yeah. I like it. It was solid, it was a good. To be honest with you, it kind of felt like a palate cleanser. Yeah, I like that. It wasn't too heavy. It wasn't too heavy, it wasn't too much. It was really action-packed and it just felt really fun and Anthony Mackie did his thing. I can't even lie.
Speaker 1:See, that's the main thing that I liked about Brave New World. The action was actually not bad. It was a fair amount of action in act one, two and three and I was really um talking to talk about how I kind of wish there was like more of red hole. It honestly kind of reminds me of all the second venom movie, where with carnage and I'm like man they kind of shoehorn carnage into like the last bit of it. Like not really enough exposure of them. Like I just kind of want to see him, uh, fuck shit up a little bit more. But, um, yeah, like I was just telling that my favorite joke was anthony mackie oh, excuse me uh sam saying that, uh, I should have taken that serious bucky's of shit. And I like how there were like some potential going on.
Speaker 1:Like how I was telling Tuck, betty Ross's daughter, that's supposed to be Red She-Hulk in the comics. Uh, the ex-black widow woman that was hanging around him, uh, ruth batcero. She was originally a mutant named sabra and her powers were, like you know, superhuman strength, speed, whatnot, and she can also transfer her powers and life force to people. But honestly, by making her just an ex-black widow it doesn't really change much. But you know, assume that she's a badass in her own right. Uh, what about the leader looking butt-ass ugly? But I'm kind of glad that he came back into the mcu because that raised a lot of questions in the incredible hulk movie where he was in it. But like between the leader, red hulk, red she hulk, and a whole bunch of hope, um, I won't say villains, but well, they're villains, but more like folk enemies and whatnot. I want to say that there was a lot of potential to this, to a point to where it felt like an incredible whole sequel. But they can't really call that because universal and uh.
Speaker 1:But I did like some of the jokes, I did like the cameo with Bucky. Uh, it was honestly a solid movie. Like, oh yeah, um can't gloss over on Giancarlo Esposito doing his thing at sidewinder, even though he wasn't in the movie much, but he still gave that kind of impression that he was still most likely in control of the situation. Like see, that's the thing. Like you gotta remember, he's gus spring from breaking back, he's stan edgar from the boys. He gotta be like in this. He just got this composure. That's like this unshakable composure. That's what I like about him.
Speaker 2:I agree. Have you ever seen Scandal?
Speaker 1:Yes, a little bit yeah.
Speaker 2:Papa Pope, he remind me of him.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay.
Speaker 3:You hit the nail on the head.
Speaker 2:I am command you can't take command.
Speaker 1:But no, no, no With Giancarlo. Here's the thing. He like that. But he doesn't even have to Raise his voice on most times he just straight cool with it. It's like I like how, in every Role, just about every role he plays, it's like he got ice in his veins. That's what I like about his acting.
Speaker 2:I agree, his voice is nice, calm, subtle, it's like, yeah, it definitely it's giving Denzel badass bro, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:All of your favorite 90s actors. Like all the male, he tops it with that ice cold vein. You know he got that dead stare.
Speaker 1:But there is one role that I remember that he was like totally different, but he was really funny in this one. Y'all remember this one movie. Uh, nothing to lose with. Uh, martin lawrence, and um, what was his name? Uh, white boy. Uh name on tim robbins or something like that, oh, robin williams.
Speaker 2:No, no, not robin what's the premise of it?
Speaker 1:give me the premise uh, basically a white guy. He has this nice job. He comes home early. Uh, he thinks his wife is cheating on him and he didn't really ask question anything. That that's dumb on him. Anyways, he bolts out of the house without making a sound. Uh, martin lawrence character, who was like um, sticking him up because he was like on hard times, because he was trying to get a job but he can't, so he resorted to crime and whatnot. He held him up. Uh, they went out in the boonies and whatnot. There was this whole situation where, essentially, they had this plot to rob a white boy. You know what? Let me look up the name, because I'm going to feel a little offensive.
Speaker 3:Be like I think it's Tim Robbins right, Is that it?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I said Tim Robbins. But I'm like thinking, is that his name? Yeah, yeah, it was Tim Robbins. Yeah, yeah, I got it right. His name was Nick Beam in this film.
Speaker 2:You know, nick Beam, it was kind of funny that came out right before Blue Street, right yeah?
Speaker 3:Oh, I was just fixing to ask that. I was like, did it?
Speaker 2:come out before Blue Street. It came out right before Blue Street got banned. Okay, you know they're about to have a sequel to it. By the way, excuse me, yeah, okay.
Speaker 3:I heard about that while back.
Speaker 1:Okay, check this out. He was the black guy that was with the guy that plays Dr Cox in Scrubs.
Speaker 2:Dang, I know who you're talking about. Yeah.
Speaker 1:If you remember that movie like, you can watch it anytime. Like, remember the title is Nothing to Lose. If you see Tim Robbins and Martin Lawrence on the cover, you got it. Watch that movie. And I swear to God, giancarlo is one of the funniest dude in that movie, like him and John C McGinley. They're like this criminal duo and they got good chemistry with each other. I swear to God.
Speaker 2:I understand that what I like is that there's a lot of different things that people in the Marvel Cinematic Universe can piece together to create these movies and it's a number of ways that they can go. I'm going to go a little bit Coco Gatsu a little bit, but as I go into the comics and I was watching so many videos and I was reading so many of the comics Just to get information about it, I don't know, I don't know if y'all like me, after I watch a movie, I'm going to go find all the information about it, especially a Marvel movie, and I want to learn all the Easter eggs. So I'm watching every YouTube review. I'm watching man Emergency Awesome as soon as he posts something. You know what I mean comic six.
Speaker 1:I would. I would normally do that, but I was like for this review, I'm like, hey, since a lot of critics are saying, oh well, it's tragic, but hey, you know, I want to give this movie a chance and I did and I thought it was solid. And after this review, then I'll watch those videos, because I did watch Emergency Awesome, but only the breakdown video.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, the breakdown for the after-credits scene.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's about it. I'll watch the breakdown, but I'm not trying to make their opinion sway my opinion, because I want my opinion to be my own opinion. I didn't even bother listening to everybody until after I did my review, and then I'll hear what they got to say.
Speaker 3:Facts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I understand that. New rock stars too. Before I forget yeah, yeah but. I was watching because I knew that dude from. Somewhere.
Speaker 1:Hold on. Don't the chick in New Rockstar look kind of like Skip in a way? I know who you're talking about. Yeah, I keep thinking like hold on, mj, when did you get on New Rockstar?
Speaker 2:Hold on MJ, hold on man.
Speaker 3:Never mind, I'm not going to say nothing, I'm not going to say nothing.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to say nothing.
Speaker 3:I'm not going to say nothing. You know what? Thank y'all. Thank y'all for putting me on New Rockstars. We're going to go ahead and let them know. They need to send me a check.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know a couple of them.
Speaker 3:Thanks, using my likeness and image. How dare they?
Speaker 2:I just need $2, $2?, the last $2.
Speaker 3:I'm not gonna lose, you promise.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:Bro, you're reminding me of that one dude who always hitting up somebody for $2.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to tell you $2, add up.
Speaker 3:It do. If you hit up everybody in your phone for $2, what?
Speaker 2:I'm gonna be a thousandaire. Hey look For $2. What? I'm going to be a thousandaire. Hey look the brain dude.
Speaker 1:What's his name? The leader, samuel Stearns.
Speaker 2:They don't really call him the leader in the film.
Speaker 1:Yeah, why they didn't? You know what? Good question. To be fair, he's not really leading a whole legion like he did in the comics, so I guess that's why. But then again I'm thinking how come they scared to call Kingpin the Kingpin in the MCU? They just call him Wilson Fisk. I'm like we know he's the Kingpin, just call him the Kingpin, damn.
Speaker 2:Because they opened up for the King To be the mayor. I mean maybe.
Speaker 3:Maybe there's a lot of copyright issues that we they get approved.
Speaker 2:And they could be low key, making him the president. But I digress no, no, no.
Speaker 1:Speaking of presidency and mayors, and what not Funny thing is yeah, wilson Fiske is running for mayor of New York, but Bucky Speaking of presidency and mayors, and whatnot funny thing is yeah, wilson Fisk is running for mayor of New York, but Bucky, he's running for congressman and he has more of a chance to become president. So imagine Kingpin's like I'm the mayor of New York and Bucky Rollo be able to ask you, I'm the president of the United States.
Speaker 2:Bucky too old to be president.
Speaker 3:Hey, hey, hey, hey hey.
Speaker 1:That is a young 110-year-old. Yeah, I'm like, technically I would agree, but I'm like he got the youth to where I'm like, eh you know, he the oldest president ever.
Speaker 3:Hey, hey, hey.
Speaker 2:Tell that to. Congress members, but he still got the mind of like a 30, 40-year-old man.
Speaker 3:So I'm like I don't know, I kind of just got the joke what All the Congress members that we have are actually old as crap. Oh, my. God, that was a joke. Oh, I just got it. Yo, yo, that was a joke oh, I just got it Yo.
Speaker 2:But um the, uh, the, you remember the leader of the special forces, the one that, um, the leader had uh Killed with a heart attack.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:Incompancy, died in a heart attack. And what's crazy Is the um. You know he was getting the uh, the pills, the pills that he was getting, the pills that he was getting certified by the guy he said he had a contact that could do all the stuff. Yeah, it was a 12-year-old kid. That 12-year-old kid figures out gamma radiation and he becomes the new Hulk in one of the iterations of the film.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but it could be Hulk in one of the iterations of the film.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but they put that up in the movie.
Speaker 2:It could be a number of ways they can go, but if they do, they had to open up stuff for the New Avengers, which they also set up. Like bro, I can't wait. Oh my God, they low-key. They gotta set up all Ironheart. They've been setting up so many things, bro.
Speaker 4:It's okay, Tuck.
Speaker 2:The new Avengers movie won, bro? I don't know. I hope I'm alive, bro. I just hope I'm alive.
Speaker 3:Don't say that.
Speaker 2:What if you die one day before the movie come out?
Speaker 3:You know that would make me so upset.
Speaker 2:But you know what I'm just going to?
Speaker 3:haunt everybody that made that movie. I'm just going to assume that when I get to heaven, all the movies that I want to see have already been created.
Speaker 2:Like I'm going to assume they're already up there. Oh God.
Speaker 3:I'm trying to watch all the episodes of my Hero.
Speaker 1:Let's be real, if I'm allowed to steal Deadpool's flow for a moment, let's be real. We're going to be doing this podcast until we're 90.
Speaker 2:Oh God.
Speaker 1:We're going to be the oldest podcasters in the game.
Speaker 2:I can't wait bro. It's so many bro. And if they come out with a static shock movie, oh my God, oh my God.
Speaker 1:I don't see why they haven't already at this point I agree like, uh, I still get kind of heated when, like that one time when, uh, it was a while ago, when kid cuddy was like saying, oh well, you know there's not a whole lot of, uh, black superheroes that doesn't have the word black in it and I had like a whole list of black superheroes that could have had their own movie, especially at a certain time. The.
Speaker 2:Green Lantern Niggas, the Niggas, green Lantern.
Speaker 1:I mean, there's like two of them.
Speaker 2:John something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's John and then there's Joe.
Speaker 2:I don't know about Joe, no.
Speaker 1:Yeah, joe Mullion, she's like a black woman who actually looks pretty good.
Speaker 2:Green Lantern yeah. Black woman yeah. Oh, I love that. That's my new favorite.
Speaker 1:Yeah, look up, joe Mullion.
Speaker 3:Ooh, I'm going to watch that. Is it because she's a black woman and a Green Lantern?
Speaker 2:Oh Lord, I know that uniform is right. Oh see Lord, I know that uniform is right.
Speaker 3:Oh see See, never mind, never mind. You know what I'm gonna hush. I'm not doing this, I'm not doing it tonight, I'm not getting upset tonight.
Speaker 2:Hey, I was right. My blood pressure, never mind, I was right. I'm just looking it up and I'm right, tuck, tuck. Tuck, tuck.
Speaker 4:But watch Jon.
Speaker 2:Stewart first on that pop-up though.
Speaker 3:Jon Stewart is my boy, yeah.
Speaker 2:I ain't got enough yet.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:Let me tell y'all something. This ain't got nothing to do with nothing, but I just thought y'all should listen. You know I am off the market. I am officially off the market.
Speaker 3:I got a girlfriend now, congratulations.
Speaker 2:I do have a girlfriend, however. I informed her about my copious amounts of baby mamas and she told me that she approved all my baby mamas.
Speaker 3:Good for her.
Speaker 2:I can continue to smash all my baby mamas if you tell me that Good for you, I meant for her.
Speaker 3:I mean sure.
Speaker 2:So me, and Rihanna is still a go nevermind, no, no, that is not okay even though I'm a little upset that her baby daddy is not going to jail, but it's okay oh he not he is not guilty. Yeah, no, that's not a yay it's supposed to be me and her supposed to be me and her against the world okay, drake. I was going to be a step daddy.
Speaker 3:I'm pretty sure Drake over there saying the same thing nah, nah, nah nah like nah, like listen, like first of all you mean Aubrey?
Speaker 2:his name is Aubrey say Drake, I know you like him.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, oh man like listen, like, since we're on the topic, like imagine in future movies or tv shows, imagine there's like this scenario where uh, a character have to dress up as somebody else to kind of like uh, impersonate somebody and they just put on, not like us in the background and like they're doing like a terrible job trying to impersonate somebody. And it's like you know what. I kind of like the way they inserted that song in this moment, because you know kind of um like think of it, like uh, imagine a uh, malibu, most wanted type thing thing to where you know white guy trying to be one of us, but for some reason that song is coming out in the background and I'm like, really there is somebody that could do it and add it to their playlist, but I don't want to mention his name from Marvel, but he's my archenemy.
Speaker 2:Really, I don't want to mention his name from Marvel, but he's my archenemy.
Speaker 1:Really.
Speaker 2:I don't even want to say his name, I can't even say his name. No. I just feel like he's on the tip of your tongue, he who must not be named, but he could probably put it on his playlist of not like us if he just blurted it out right now, I feel my soul would be pleased. I don't even want to give him the time of day, but I just feel like you. What did you say, star-lord? Oh my god, nobody don't even call him that.
Speaker 1:Call him by his government name, at least yeah, that is kind of crazy, because he said it once in the MCU and everybody was like who?
Speaker 2:Exactly. It was perfect, don't nobody care about that dude and I'm still upset because it was two other movies because of him.
Speaker 1:Oh, it would have been all good, you gotta love it that we're going to eventually get a legendary Star-Lord movie.
Speaker 3:I'm so excited that's my baby, daddy.
Speaker 2:I hope it gets one viewer.
Speaker 3:And it will be me.
Speaker 2:Internationally.
Speaker 3:I know I'm internationally known. I think it needs a bomb. Why?
Speaker 2:Why are you? So upset Because all he had to do was kill her and god dang it. We wouldn't need two movies. He ruined the cinematic universe. You're going to blame him for ruined the cinematic universe.
Speaker 3:You're going to blame him for ruining the cinematic universe.
Speaker 2:Can you not see that he ruined it? Am I not telling the truth?
Speaker 3:You are absolutely not telling the truth. He did not ruin the cinematic universe.
Speaker 2:So if he shot her, would Thanos be alive?
Speaker 3:He didn't ruin the cinematic. Would the blip even happen? Would you have been able to see multiple baby mamas?
Speaker 2:I plead the fifth.
Speaker 1:Jesus Christ, y'all are clowns.
Speaker 3:I think you need to be thanking Mr Star-Lord. I don't know how to hop hop people, oh my god. But I do want to say this I am glad that Seth Rollins Did not get to play in this movie.
Speaker 2:I'm sad, but I'm glad yeah, cause he too busy filming for Invincible, which just came out season 3, by the way. I just wanted to put that out there as a disclaimer, but we might review that later just so y'all know.
Speaker 1:I can't do it. Can I just say this real quick? One character in this movie, isaiah Bradley, I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm like this man need to catch a fucking break, like because bad enough that he spent 30 years of his life Trying to serve His country being a super soldier, but then they trying to Bring him back into jail because he was like one of the five people you know. He was just set up by the leader To try to discredit the President on President Ross and bro, let me be honest with you, like I'm gonna be Real honest with y'all. I hate to see an old head cry.
Speaker 3:Me too.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I agree.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was crying, it made me tear up.
Speaker 2:I'm going to be real honest with y'all.
Speaker 3:I hate to see an old head cry Me too. Oh yeah, I agree. Yeah, I was crying. It made me tear up Like man.
Speaker 1:I'm like this man a break.
Speaker 3:Damn, I'm about to cry right now. Oh, here's a tissue. Thank you.
Speaker 1:I don't want it back. When he said oh, I'm going to die in here. Oh, don't say that, isaiah, we're going to get you out there. Buddy, we're going to hear your name, man, we're going to make things right.
Speaker 2:Oh God, Just wait until the end of the movie, bro.
Speaker 3:When he said I don't want this to touch you, I was like he told him not to come back.
Speaker 2:Bro, that's how you know I'm about to cry. Oh, my boy, my boy done punched that. That. Um, he done punched that bag, just like captain america punched that bag, and I was like I miss steve so much. Okay, it's america's ass, okay. Wow, this movie was a great movie.
Speaker 3:It was definitely a palo kenser for me, did you guys? It's America's ass. Okay, while this movie was a great movie, it was definitely a paladin for me. Did you guys feel like there was something missing, though? Ah?
Speaker 1:honestly, like when I was mentioning how, like, yeah, we could have had Red She-Hulk, well, it wouldn't fit in this movie, but it kind of I kind of would have wished if there was like a Indication that you know. Okay, let me Take a little side tangent to She-Hulk. Attorney at Law, how In that show, how Jin became She-Hulk, is that her, she had like an open wound and Bruce's blood got Into her wound and that's how, like, she gained her powers. And I was like kind of hoping that, uh, betty would have showed up earlier in the movie. So at the very least, uh, it would have been like she showed up for ross during during that one event, you know, right before he turns into Red Hulk and essentially, like, somehow she gets hurt and some of his blood gets into her system, and then that kind of set that up. I kind of wish that was there. So it would be like a setup towards, okay, we might get a Red Shield in the future yeah, they just didn't do that though but I was like dang.
Speaker 1:I just kind of wish it was in this movie, though that would have been great, but it could happen they're gonna put a 30 second clip in, and then what they probably did was film that part.
Speaker 2:All you need is 30 seconds.
Speaker 3:That's literally all you need, I mean they did cut a lot from this movie and I don't know if it was yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they cut so much from this movie and I don't know if it was yeah, yeah, they cut so much from this movie and I'm not sure if it was.
Speaker 3:I do believe the the writer's strike also has something to do with this, but that's still a. Thing no, not now, but it was at the time of the filming yeah, okay, okay, that was happened okay yeah, it ended up getting this, ended up getting back that's fair, because you know, you.
Speaker 1:You do know that before it was called brave new world, it was called new world order. I like, oh, that sounds tough I'm not gonna.
Speaker 2:That sounds like some illuminati first of all, it did everybody.
Speaker 3:There was people who took offense to that, and it made me. It makes me upset, because because there's a little lot of like conspiracy theories surrounding the idea of a new world order. It's mostly fascism, which I completely, totally understand, but if it was a throwback or an ode to curtis mayfield's album new world order, that was cool, that would have been, and I don't think people knew that reference though. So skip, I had a question for you.
Speaker 2:Yes, don't think people knew that reference. Though, skip, I got a question for you yes. Don't you love Mad the Stallion?
Speaker 3:I'm going to fight you.
Speaker 2:Well, mad the Stallion is officially a part of the Marvel Cinematic Universe, thanks to She-Hulk. I just want everybody to know that.
Speaker 3:I want you to know no one likes She-Hulk. No one likes She-Hulk. Hold on, hold on. Skip you to know no one likes She-Hulk, no one likes She-Hulk.
Speaker 1:Hold on, hold on Skip. I'm pretty sure that, based on what they're doing with She-Hulk, disney and Marvel themselves are trying to Thanos snap She-Hulk out of existence to a point where you know what. Let's just pretend this show doesn't exist. It doesn't exist outside of the MCU at this point.
Speaker 2:It happened. It's in the Marvel vault, amen.
Speaker 3:Amen, Hallelujah. There is an Avengers guy looking down saying Megan, no.
Speaker 2:Absolutely not. She-hulk, low-key, should have been in the new Avengers, because you gotta have a Hulk in the New Avengers so if you don't have a Hulk wait a minute.
Speaker 3:I thought that was going to be on the guest show well, hold on, wait a minute.
Speaker 1:Keep in mind Seahawk was a member of the Fantastic Four what?
Speaker 3:oh, I forgot about that. Wait a minute.
Speaker 2:I did not about that yeah wait a minute. Yeah, I did not know that yeah, so there you go, still potential uh, no, no, my baby mama need to be recast, but it's too late secret wars and he already said he would be interested.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, you're right, okay, alright, my head hurt, but hey, you know Vanessa Kirby, she's not bad.
Speaker 2:She's not bad at all, buddy. It's just something about my baby mama, I get it.
Speaker 3:I don't, I actually don't understand.
Speaker 2:You don't Help me? Yeah, I don't think we can help. You gotta grow a particular body part.
Speaker 1:But uh, mary Jane, we had this conversation like two nights ago. We like what we like, okay.
Speaker 3:That's a fact, Uh okay, alright, just just just.
Speaker 1:I feel as if what was missing from the whole movie was dr umar, now, oh god, I understand, though they probably say man, but a new black panther.
Speaker 2:so it's okay, my boy, denzel washington, gonna be in a new black panther. So Ryan Coolidge and Denzel Washington and Dr Umar, they're going to make the new Black Panther amazing.
Speaker 3:What, what, why, dr Umar, never mind.
Speaker 2:It was a Black superhero. I just feel like Dr Umar would have said some words of wisdom.
Speaker 3:You know what I do. Feel like this though I don't feel like there was enough weight on sam wilson's shoulders in this movie. I agree.
Speaker 1:No, you know what. That's the thing, that's what I want to get to. That's why I say like it was felt like an incredible whole two sequel, because none of what between what ross and the leader had going on, that didn't have anything to do with Sam Wilson as a character or his character art, it's just more like he just happens to be involved. It was almost a scene since the Avengers were disbanded and the whole point of the movie was oh well, maybe we should restart the Avengers because, yeah, duh, doomsday is coming, so y'all gonna have to bring the band back together either way. So you might as well Like okay, well, at this point you might as well Like get the boys back together. Uh, but it felt like the plot didn't really have anything to do With Sam. He just happened to be like the nearest Avenger available.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, it also kind of felt he just happened to be like the nearest Avenger available. Yeah, yeah, it also kind of felt like too, I think, because they took so much Out of it that, while it still flows, actually she was supposed to be in this film, or rumored.
Speaker 2:But he had to be in it. This had to start it, though, because Captain America was the first Avenger, so they had to be in it. This had to start it, though, because Captain America was the first Avenger, so they had to have Sam as the first Avenger for the new Avengers.
Speaker 3:I agree, I don't disagree at all.
Speaker 1:How do y'all feel about Falcon, the new Falcon?
Speaker 3:I like Falcon. I was actually about to say that these white hands these days.
Speaker 2:He done took my boy's phone. They took the cover off.
Speaker 3:He really did, snatch it right off, like what if I wanted?
Speaker 2:it on there. I kept the cover on because I wanted to make sure my phone was good and you over there snatching my stuff off.
Speaker 3:I love the generational picture that they took.
Speaker 2:That was cute.
Speaker 3:That was so cute. Gen Z, millennial, and I don't even know what age.
Speaker 1:I want to be like Boomer.
Speaker 4:I'd say he'd be a.
Speaker 1:Boomer 1920s. Yeah, I'll give him that. Yeah, that's sure I mean to be fair. Fair. He's a super soldier, so he may age A little slower than average.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, but we'll say Boomer, boomer's fine.
Speaker 2:The greatest generation.
Speaker 3:Huh. He's in the greatest generation I mean yeah, you wanna fight. Huh he's in the greatest generation, the boomer. I mean, yeah, you want to fight Hold on quote.
Speaker 2:I mean, that's what it's called. I don't agree.
Speaker 1:I mean no, no, I mean yeah, yeah, we actually look it up.
Speaker 3:That's what they called it.
Speaker 2:I don't know about it, but yeah. That's what they're trying to make America great again. That's what they're trying to make America great again. That's what they're trying to get back to Experimenting on Nero, excuse me, I mean, that's what they was doing Experimenting, oh God.
Speaker 3:All of that stuff is hard palpitations. I be trying to think about it.
Speaker 2:I probably got the super soldier salmon. Right now I don't know what they're putting me.
Speaker 3:I got so many shots. You look like the super soldier salmon.
Speaker 2:So you're, I don't know what they're doing to me. I got so many shots. You look like the super soldier, Sarah.
Speaker 3:I'm pretty sure you do. So you're saying I look like a super soldier.
Speaker 2:huh, I know that's not what I said, I said the serum. No, no, no, no. I heard super soldier.
Speaker 3:Serum. It's like these muscles like touch a female.
Speaker 1:You keep leaving out the most important part of that, ain't that? And her relationship with the women started flirting with you.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 5:God.
Speaker 3:Wow, that's. You know what, jb? I know. You know what I see. It's fine. It's fine, y'all can have baby mamas together. Go on, go on.
Speaker 2:I'm not seeing you with my baby mama, except Rihanna and Beyonce.
Speaker 1:You can't touch them.
Speaker 3:Okay, that's fine anyway, the ending of the movie go ahead the last scene between Falcon and Captain America, between those two. I think a lot of this was going. I think this movie was going to be more centered around like the weight that a black man quote unquote has to carry because of the conversation they had at the end.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that will make it like a rehash of what happened in the Falcon and Winter Soldier, where that was pretty much the point of Falcon and Winter Soldier, where uh sam was like had to come to grips to become captain america, especially after john walker had like his run at it sure, actually, you want me to tell you.
Speaker 3:The issue that I think a lot of people have, though, is because we had a series before we got the movie, and the series kind of felt more like the movie yeah well, people were saying that.
Speaker 1:Oh well, you know, it just felt like, uh, a sequel outing from the series. And, to be fair, I want to say thunderbolts will probably play out that same way too, because it's bad enough that thunderbolts is already. I mean that same way Too, because it's bad enough that Thunderbolts is already. I mean, I won't even say it's bad, but it's like it's already enough that the way they're marketing Thunderbolts it's like the Marvel equivalent Of Suicide Squad, especially when you consider that think of it equivalent of Suicide Squad. Especially when you consider that think of it the Suicide Squad, not the 2016 version, fuck that one. The 2021 version, the good one With Peacemaker and Bloodsport and all that.
Speaker 2:He said not the recent version. Fuck that one yeah. No no.
Speaker 1:Fuck that one, the good one, they were going against fucking Starro. Meanwhile, the Thunderbolts are going up against Sentry slash the Void and if you know the comic book lore, sentry is the Void and it's like a schizophrenic type thing, going on to where he's super strong, he's like Superman, but schizophrenic. Go with that. Yeah, let's go with that. But yeah, like they're setting up thunderbolts to be like suicide squad and like gonna have his funny jokes and whatnot, and I think some of that same humor that falcon and soldier has gonna seep into uh, thunderbolts too, especially when you consider you have elena like listen, listen, el. Like her, like something about her character, like she's funny.
Speaker 1:And the funny thing about that is, um, they're going to have like a whole bunch of characters that half of them are like kind of funny in their own right and the other half is like, eh, they'll warm up, they'll get around around, they'll come around. You know, like I was talking about Ghost Taskmaster and actually no, that's about it. Um, I won't say John Walker is like funny, but I mean he's funnier in this one, like at least as far as the trailers like. He's like okay, he kind of lightened up a little bit, he got, he got jokes now, okay, cool. But yeah, I'm like both movies just feel like they're just continuations of falcon and soldier, so no way there's gonna be a season two of that. But that's fine, you know. It's fine because you know at this point new avengers is going to be assembled, uh, bucky's going to be running the thunderbolt, which is kind of strange because, imagine, president Bucky is also the leader of the Thunderbolts.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it don't make no sense.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's got to be one or the other buddy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Bucky's going to have to resign. I mean, he's still Like Harrison Ford.
Speaker 1:Yeah, see, that's why I like you know. I mean, we do know you as the Winter Soldier, so I'm like I don't know, but then again you know.
Speaker 2:President Fisk, I'm trying to see it, I'm trying to see it, that's gonna throw Spider-Man crazy.
Speaker 1:But you know, if they do what I think they do, with the direction of Doomsday and Secret Wars, doom's going to end up Becoming God Emperor, and I'm like what's a king to a god?
Speaker 2:I want to see Professor X One time. That's mutant saga, I know, but I want to see him, the original Professor X, just when they fight each other Like I just want to see Professor X one time. That's even sadder, I know, but I want to see him, the original Professor X, just when they fight each other like I just want to see it one more time. I just want him to touch his head.
Speaker 3:Just one more time.
Speaker 2:Just one more time For old time's sake.
Speaker 1:I mean that could be in Secret Wars too. You know, I mean that's crazy. Like I'm really curious about Secret Wars at this point. Good thing, that's like two years from now.
Speaker 2:Oh, thank God, Just so you know. I've seen a meme. It was like if he can control everybody's mind, why he can't control his legs?
Speaker 1:No, no, no, Even better, even better, the Days of Future Past, when he has a fucking serum that allows him to temporarily have movement in his legs. Where'd that serum go?
Speaker 2:I would have masqueraded that moment. You would have been saying it. I would have thought that a dude would have said it.
Speaker 1:You would have been making like helping out on paraplegics man.
Speaker 2:He could have forced a dude to make it. Like he could have forced a whole bunch of people to make it All you make it. Like he could have forced a whole bunch of people to make it.
Speaker 3:Man, all you know is fine wine dancing and like making this serum like bruh, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay. I actually have a question. How come, uh, the president didn't think that the leader was over here not poisoning him? I don't understand If you have been holding this man captive.
Speaker 2:That's stupid.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:Well, I'm thinking that the doses wasn't like I don't know. That is a good question.
Speaker 3:Why would you trust that?
Speaker 1:You have him held captive.
Speaker 2:It's only like look, only a 12 year old kid can figure out what is gamma right now these adults don't know what's going on.
Speaker 1:It takes a super genius to figure it out it ain't got no other super geniuses but Spiderman as far as the gamma radiation, I guess that's just something that he just overlooked for some reason. I'm guessing that, uh, it wasn't really a problem until he got really angry and agitated and whatnot. But then again I'm trying to think the only reason why he would take the pills is, like it kind of the movie explains it that the only reason he just didn't question it because he kind of figured that as long as ross uh, as long as ross agrees to let the leader go which he didn't even- held up his end of the bargain on that because he became president, the leader still at alms campsite.
Speaker 1:But uh, essentially he kept gave, he only accepted the pills in order to make sure that he kept living. So he just kind of like kept using the pills because that's what keeping him alive. But then again, with the leader, he knew that ross wasn't gonna held up his end of the bargain. So I'm like, let me just dose it just a little bit. Just a little bit, because that's the thing you gotta make it to a point where it's not like super noticeable at first. So it's almost like he must have taken these pills for like multiple years and it just took a while for it to compound to where I'm like, oh yeah, he definitely like got some gamma radiation, like almost like he got a little too much in there to a point where he could just go out of control. But then again I can only imagine that he didn't have a major episode until the events of the movie.
Speaker 2:It's only a handful of people that really have the smarts to understand what was going on with it, right, like Beast and Tony Stark, and well, maybe Tony Stark with the help of Jarvis, or Friday.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's only like six, seven people, Ruth Banner himself, like if he was in the movie. But then again, once again, it can't be an Incredible Hulk sequel. It can't be officially called that.
Speaker 2:What's the Beast's real name?
Speaker 1:Hank McCoy.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, Dang, you knew that was top tier.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, because, listen, we did the X-Men stream review. I've been preparing for that shit for multiple months.
Speaker 2:Some names, I just knew it's only about seven people that really could do it in the world, in the Marvel world.
Speaker 3:I guess I'm just questioning why wouldn't he take those same pills that was given to him by a madman and go test them out with another madman, like hey, can you make sure these are right, you know?
Speaker 1:I honestly think that he really wasn't thinking that he was being tricked or anything.
Speaker 3:It was like hey man, I know your heart's failing.
Speaker 1:Uh, here are these pills to keep you alive, so that way you can keep me, so that way you can hold up your end of the bargain. And then Ross just took it as like, yeah, I can trust you.
Speaker 3:I mean, yeah, I guess too. I guess that's his pride and I guess that goes back into the actual character of Ross, like the ego and the pride, the belief that nothing could happen to him per se.
Speaker 2:Right, and like nobody was fucking with him. Right, yeah, it's like seven, but like seven smart people in the world. None of them seven fucking with him, because if he give it to somebody else, they really don't understand it. They'll be like yeah, I took that outside.
Speaker 1:I mean, he just had no reason to believe that he was being set up.
Speaker 2:He should have went to see Peter Parker. I'm talking about Andrew Garfield and Peter Parker. He need a smart person.
Speaker 1:You stupid.
Speaker 3:I mean, I'm just going to leave it at that. You're right, he should have went to go see Peter Parker he would say that MJ who's Peter Parker?
Speaker 1:sorry, oh, hold on, like nah, it wouldn't have worked because the events of no Way Home, where nobody knows that Peter Parker iser is spider-man, so that wouldn't make sense. Like nobody should know that he's um well, unless peter parker. Oh man, see, this is what another theory. I'm kind of hoping that at some point, uh peter end up having parker industries, because you do know that, uh, that a thing right To where he has his own shit, kind of like Tony did with Stark Industries, but he got his own shit going on.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he becomes kind of like the Spider-Man version of Tony Stark.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that would be so dope, oh my god, in the new Avengers.
Speaker 3:Oh, man, and you know what?
Speaker 1:And check this out. I got it Spider-Man like. He's like the OG Spider-Man and he's trying to take it easy while he's running Parker Industries, but he's training up a team of spider people like Miles Morales, silk and some other spider people from the multiverse, or maybe in this universe, I don't know. Bring over those spider girls from Madam Web. You know, that's just I hope, but I don't think it's going to happen.
Speaker 2:I didn't watch Madam Web and I'm not playing none.
Speaker 1:You're better off not.
Speaker 2:I did watch Blue Beetle, though. I liked it. Beetle though, but I liked it.
Speaker 1:I didn't get around to watching it. We might review that later on.
Speaker 3:Is Blue Beetle a movie or a series?
Speaker 1:A movie. It's going to be a series though.
Speaker 3:What we had? A Blue Beetle movie.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:The bad reviews, but I watched it and I was like this wasn't bad.
Speaker 1:And see, that's the main thing with this movie, with Brave New World, where it's like people are like, oh it's bad or mediocre and whatnot they didn't want to see the nigga. It's okay, but it was like he would look they would the critics was looking at Sam Wilson like fucking Steve Carell. Was looking at Sam Wilson like fucking Steve Carell. Was looking at the chick from Anchorman, where he was like you're not Steve, yep.
Speaker 2:It's because Steve is good, clinton Hulson.
Speaker 1:I'm like, oh, even Ross was like you're not Steve Rogers and like you're right I'm not. But I hate that they cut that part out in the movie when we saw it in the trailer.
Speaker 2:I would have been mad as fuck, like somebody just saying you ain't no Chris Brown. I hit him and say bitch you Rihanna now Dang, dang, dang. I'm sorry my baby mama. I hit him and said bitch you, rihanna, now Dang. I'm sorry my baby mama. I'm sorry my baby mama.
Speaker 3:You said it, that was you.
Speaker 2:Look my baby mama.
Speaker 3:We ain't going to talk about that. We're not going to do that because Rihanna also hit him too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she did, she did, she told me.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I know, she told you you all right Tuck.
Speaker 2:It. Yeah, I know she told you. Yeah, it happened so long ago. But you know, I'll fight Chris Brown right now.
Speaker 3:What's up, you need the number.
Speaker 2:I'll fight them today.
Speaker 3:They're shelters.
Speaker 2:She ain't even mad, no more.
Speaker 3:We need a code word.
Speaker 2:The code word is asparagus, asparagus.
Speaker 3:Asparagus, that's not you know, what.
Speaker 2:Nobody likes it.
Speaker 3:What I love asparagus.
Speaker 1:I mean to be fair. I guess it's a better one, because you hear it and you're like what? And I'm like, oh, you're not even in the mood anymore. So I guess that works.
Speaker 2:It's the smell, it's the odor.
Speaker 3:Oh, I don't eat a lot of asparagus. I eat like one or two.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think I tried it once and I'm like I don't know, I don't know how to feel about it.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm like I don't know, I don't know how people are.
Speaker 3:I like it a little bit. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:That's how I feel about spinach. I only wanted spinach because Popeye had spinach yeah.
Speaker 1:I was one of those kids too. I watched Popeye, so it might be good. I'm like it's alright.
Speaker 2:I'm trying to have trapezium muscles like Ketcher Freeman.
Speaker 3:I'm not going to lie, though. If it didn't come out the can when I was younger, I was like that's not spinach, and then I realized that spinach was nasty.
Speaker 2:Nah, that can spinach where it's at. That's how you got to start. You got to stop smoking your cigarette like Papa.
Speaker 1:No thank you Be breaking open a can and be like nah, nah, nah, nah, and it'd be like With Chaloki.
Speaker 2:Spinach was in the overages at the time, which is why they came out with Papa, so that people would buy more spinach because of it being in the overages, and companies didn't want to be in the red on spinach, which is crazy.
Speaker 3:They came out with a cartoon to make people eat more vegetables.
Speaker 2:No to eat more spinach, because spinach was so abundant.
Speaker 3:I mean it's a vegetable.
Speaker 2:Not spinach specifically, though, because nobody wasn't buying the spinach. It was so abundant that they was going to become bankrupt from spinach, and then it worked, because motherfuckers started buying spinach.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry. Maybe at that point they should just give it away for free instead of making it.
Speaker 2:It was like five cents, which is expensive, but what?
Speaker 3:back in the day it was expensive five cents was expensive, so they should have just gave it away, you know now they weren't, you know, capitalism but yeah, uh, tuck right.
Speaker 1:You'd be so surprised how many shows and movies are based on hey, yo, we need to make some more money. So how we can go about this, hey, let's put out a show, all right bet. I mean think of arcane, like legal legends want more players, um, involved so they can buy the skin. So I'm like what, what can we do to bring in more players? Like, let's put out a tv show, all right bet I'm not gonna lie to you, it worked, it worked.
Speaker 3:And then, oh my god, we ain't gonna talk about legal legend. Legal legend has the. I'm not going to lie to you, it worked, it worked. And then, oh my God, we ain't going to talk about League of Legends. League of Legends has the best music, the best soundtracks, everything about League of Legends, the best competition shows Just absolutely amazing. I love League of Legends.
Speaker 1:I will not deny its success if I find the rest of that debatable.
Speaker 2:What, and that's from a legal legend player, so Okay. I sent a video in a group chat to highlight what they do as humans. That's why I don't fuck with humans.
Speaker 3:What do you mean? What they do with humans? What?
Speaker 2:No, as humans, what they do, you what? No, ask humans what they do. You'll see when you watch the video. Okay, in the group chat.
Speaker 3:I'm scared. Should I be scared?
Speaker 2:No, don't be scared.
Speaker 1:You're starting to remind me of Robotnik's grandpa from Sonic 3.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3:I haven't seen Sonic 3 yet. You haven't.
Speaker 1:It's on Paramount Plus now.
Speaker 2:Bro, it's great, it is great. Jim Carrey is carrying the whole fucking thing on his back.
Speaker 3:Well, I guess I'll have to watch it tomorrow.
Speaker 2:I love Jim Carrey.
Speaker 3:I do too, though.
Speaker 2:Ever since he tried to hunt those orphans down.
Speaker 1:Oh, nah, listen, I just love how Jim Carrey Was. Like you know, I'm done with movies, like I'm just done with all this. But whenever a Sonic movie Comes around, I'm like hey yo, you know, I do need some extra money in my pocket, so I'll show up for a Sonic movie.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's like you know what I do fuck with the Sonic. He said he likes the Sonic movies. He said he actually does. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like if there was like a new Sonic movie and there was like a way for him like insert him into a movie, I'd be like, hey, well, you know, I don't show up for a Sonic movie man, I still like those and that and that's fair.
Speaker 1:No, I like good bro, like hey, listen, when you're legendary enough, you earn the right to like take a break at some point. Like I only am gonna hold you if you wanna like just walk away from shit. Like see, that's the kind of thing it's like, uh, with reboots nowadays, reboots, remakes, remasters and whatnot, you can't reboot any Jim Carrey movie. Yeah. We can't have a new Ace Ventura yeah no, that's not going to work in modern times.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but you can't reboot any. I can't think of one movie of Jim Carrey's.
Speaker 1:You can't reboot the Mask.
Speaker 3:No, you can't reboot the mask. No, you can't. Uh, what was that one? Yeah, you definitely can't reboot that, the one where he had the three black kids oh, me myself and Irene, I love that movie.
Speaker 2:That's my favorite movie that is a good fucking movie, bro. My boy had the right mouth like a motherfucker.
Speaker 3:See, that's another one. You can't reboot that movie, you just can't. We're going to need some magic queen on oh my gosh, he's legendary. You can't reboot any of his movies.
Speaker 2:Oh y'all think we're going to get new Blade Ace. What was it? Ace something.
Speaker 3:Oh, ace Ventura yeah yeah. Ace Ventura, the pet detective.
Speaker 1:That's great. What were you saying, MJ?
Speaker 3:You think we're going to get any new Blade movies?
Speaker 1:No.
Speaker 2:Oh my God.
Speaker 1:First of all, there's only one Blade, and there will be one.
Speaker 2:Blade. Let me stand in for Talos. Look, blade saved Marvel. He literally saved Marvel, and they're going to disrespect my boy like that. Rdc came out with a video on this shit, just to be specific. He saved them niggas, and they're going to disrespect him. They're going to cancel his movie. I can't believe these things. The audacity.
Speaker 3:It's officially canceled.
Speaker 1:I mean it's indefinite hiatus.
Speaker 3:What you know, what Just you know?
Speaker 2:The negrosity.
Speaker 3:Okay, if Michael B Jordan plays Blade, I'm down. They will put Michael B Jordan plays Blade, I'm down.
Speaker 2:They will put Michael B Jordan. That ain't a bad idea.
Speaker 1:Oh, but you know You're gonna have some fans gonna be like, hey, yo like what's up? Y'all Keep um Hiring the same actor playing two different roles in the MCU.
Speaker 2:I'm sitting here like bro why can't Western Snipes reprise his role, though cause? He old, so he can be in the beginning at least.
Speaker 1:I mean, he was in Deadpool and Wolverine, so like you had it.
Speaker 2:Mahershala, mahershala.
Speaker 1:Kamala, kamala Mahershala.
Speaker 2:I don't even know what you're saying Mahershala Ali.
Speaker 3:Okay, there you go.
Speaker 2:And that's how you say it. Yeah, he was perfect. He's a great actor, but then again.
Speaker 3:I just can't picture it, though Like I couldn't, like I saw it and I was like I just couldn't feel it.
Speaker 1:Listen, listen, if they did run that and they brought in, like Daredevil, luke Cage, jessica Jones, iron Fist and all that in there, that would break the same rule that the fans are talking about, with same actor, two different roles, because he would be Blade and Cottonmouth from Luke Cage.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you're right he would, but they're doing it already with what's the name I mean technically they already did with Chris Evans, with Deadpool, wolverine to where, like um captain america, johnny storm yeah, and they're doing it again with um coney stark too, so with robert downey jr yeah, that's what I'm dang.
Speaker 2:what's his name? What's the name's son? Um, fuck, I know his name. I know his name. He play in everything Old buddy that play John Q.
Speaker 1:John Q.
Speaker 2:John Q Um, remember the Titans. Hmm, what's that black dude that played? And remember the titans?
Speaker 1:damn. It's been a while since I was bro, I think the last time he played a man on fire.
Speaker 2:Remember the titans he played um. He played so many movies.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, you know what.
Speaker 2:The Tower of the Antennae.
Speaker 1:You don't remember his name. I'm trying to remember who exactly you're talking about.
Speaker 2:He played in Remember the Titans. He was the lead character. He played in man on Fire. He played in John Titans. He was the lead character. He played in man on Fire. He played in John Q. He was the lead character. And it's not Denzel Washington right, denzel Washington, denzel Washington, really, he got a son.
Speaker 3:Oh okay, His son, oh his son.
Speaker 2:Denzel Washington got a son. That's perfect, you think?
Speaker 3:his son could be played. Hell yeah, you know what he got the range. This nigga's Denzel Washington's son. That don't mean nothing, he was terrible in football. But the point is I can see that. I can see the range he got range.
Speaker 2:Man. He played in that TV show with the Rock too he did?
Speaker 3:He did that KKK movie.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he did. Denzel Washington, and Denzel Washington going to be in Black Panther. Why would his son not be in Blade?
Speaker 1:Oh yeah. Oh I love how Chadwick was like hey man, we got to put Denzel in this at some point.
Speaker 3:It's so crazy, because Chadwick was like no, no, no, I'm not gonna do it. And then you know, Denzel's like you know what, now I have to do it. I'm like, yay, I'm so excited. Wait, is he gonna be the new Black Panther? No, he won't. He's gonna be one of the last roles.
Speaker 2:Before he retire. Yeah, he only got a few more roles and then he due to retire, so he wanna make sure he do that before he retire.
Speaker 1:People really don't want there to be a new T'Challa anyway. So I'm like yeah, there is technically T'Challa a new T'Challa anyway.
Speaker 3:So I'm like, yeah, I mean there is technically T'Challa's son, t'challa Jr.
Speaker 1:But I'm like saying like they kind of don't want no one else to be the Black Panther at this point. But I'm like, ah, I mean, but then again Shuri is you know Well no, I thought she gave up.
Speaker 3:She let the.
Speaker 2:She gave up the Black Panther hood to T'Challa's son, who was her nephew, to be the Black Panther.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 2:So that shit is lower than the motherfucker.
Speaker 1:We might have to see. Oh, you know what? There is Eyes of Wakanda. That's a show that's coming out this year.
Speaker 3:I think, oh snap, that is coming out this year.
Speaker 2:All they gotta do is age up my little dude a little bit.
Speaker 3:I mean, at this point, he might be, he might be 18.
Speaker 2:It's Tyler. I mean he is little kid, like he's old enough to be like in school. So marva said they did want young actors to play in these roles so that they can uh have actors for the future.
Speaker 3:They did but okay, I'm not gonna. I this may sound bad. I would not mind, though I taking a break from all of those movies like no series yes, let's take a break. Only reason I say that is because I don't want it to falter off in popularity to the point where we just start getting bad movies.
Speaker 2:Right, nah, that ain't gonna happen, it's already happening.
Speaker 1:That kind of happened with Phase 4.
Speaker 2:What movie.
Speaker 3:I gotta look at all of Phase 4. Man, one movie, all of my movies is a bop what was Phase 4?
Speaker 2:listen, every single Marvel movie gonna step you know why it's gonna step because niggas gonna watch it.
Speaker 3:It's Marvel, it's fucking Marvel, niggas gonna watch it nah, I ain't gonna lie cause some movies I ain't gonna watch, some movies I ain't gonna watch Some movies I ain't gonna watch. See, oh, black Widow Eternal.
Speaker 1:Black Widow was mid Eternal was good, but this was also affected by COVID yeah, no Way, home was good.
Speaker 2:No Way, home was good.
Speaker 1:Multiverse and Madness.
Speaker 2:It's up to you.
Speaker 1:It's a coin toss.
Speaker 2:You said Wanda what.
Speaker 3:WandaVision was great.
Speaker 2:That was in Phase 4?.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:WandaVision was good Love and Thunder Once again.
Speaker 1:it depends on how you feel about it. And then there was Wakanda Forever, once again.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when all the girls passed out because Thor got naked, I was mad as fuck.
Speaker 3:You was mad because they passed out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they supposed to pass out for me.
Speaker 1:Why did I predict that he was going to say that? Yeah.
Speaker 3:Because, I'm predictable. I'm going to leave it alone. I say that I'm predictable. I'm going to leave it alone.
Speaker 2:I'm not.
Speaker 3:I'm not doing this.
Speaker 2:I mean, hey look, I'm going to highlight a picture of myself and we're going to put it as a thumbtack for this video.
Speaker 3:No, we're not what? No, we're not, it's not what we're doing.
Speaker 2:We're not JB. You remember when you told me I could do that? Remember, God darn it.
Speaker 1:I was still looking up the list Just to confirm like, at the very least, like phase 4 was like Kind of mid, but then phase 5, okay.
Speaker 2:Love and Thunder was good. Black Panther. Of course Black Panther had to be the highest phase five.
Speaker 1:Am I wrong?
Speaker 2:no, that was phase four black panther had to be the highest worsen of phase four. It was just due to the desert.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was gonna say but is that more so? Is it because of fandom or is that because of I?
Speaker 2:I believe about 80 would have still came to watch the movie just because of black panther, but that 20 did because of fandom, though yeah, uh, I I just think that we need a break like I think people need a break from, like, the marvel cinematic universe.
Speaker 3:I think there needs to be room for people to, for people to catch up, for Gen Z to stop doing Whatever they're doing and, you know, alpha to start coming up and enjoying these movies.
Speaker 2:You want us to watch DC.
Speaker 3:That's not what I said. I just said I think we need a break.
Speaker 2:Like a year break. Year and a half. Year and a half is great Okay alright, but no series either.
Speaker 3:I don't want to hear nothing.
Speaker 1:I mean, you already said that it's going to be, at the very least, no more than three movies and no more than two shows.
Speaker 3:See, that's too much already. They want money, but they're going to lose money.
Speaker 2:Disney is a money money hungry person. Hold on, hold on.
Speaker 1:I can see it. Hold on, wait a minute, because think about like this year to where essentially you have one movie early in the year, then a TV show, then another movie in the summer, then another TV show by the time school starts and then you have one last movie almost at the end of the year. I'm like, honestly, that sounds about right.
Speaker 2:You know what HBO did? They just greenlit two more Game of Thrones prequels. You know why? Because they realized Game of Thrones is a money motherfucking mecca.
Speaker 1:If you have good writers on it. Let's not pretend that the last season of Game of Thrones didn't happen.
Speaker 3:We do not, but look how long before we got game thrones didn't happen we, we do not, but look how long before we got a sequel to that yeah, we do not condone that last season. We act like it don't exist I'm just saying I think if we have a time to miss the mcu, I think people will appreciate, because I also think that's what affected this movie. I don't think people were ready to appreciate it, I think.
Speaker 2:Oh no, the box office sales was crazy.
Speaker 3:It does, but it's going to fall off by next month. Not next month next week, next weekend it's not going to be.
Speaker 2:They already made their money back, though Plus more they need to play the black people.
Speaker 1:Nah see, that's what kind of pissed me off about the movie industry and pretty much movie and television honestly, to where they can just put out total dog shit and, whether you like it or not, if you watched it or paid for it's like, oh, doesn't matter, we already got your fucking money yeah, that's a fact.
Speaker 2:Are we coming out with another one like Skyline, the worst movie? Your fucking money, that's a fact. Are we coming out with another one Like Skyline, the worst movie in the world?
Speaker 1:What pisses me off even more is how they make it sound like, oh, you don't have any right to criticize a movie or a TV show if you didn't actually watch it. But then you actually do watch it and I'm like, oh, what Doesn't matter, we got your money.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry, that's really best, it's like the worst case of gambling.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's why people are like hesitant about going to a movie where it's like and I don't know if it's gonna be good or not. So that's why they were waiting for the popcorn meter from rotten tomatoes Tomatoes to come out to where the critics said it was a 50%, but the fans are saying, oh well, it's at least 70%. Like me, I would say 7.5 out of 5, I mean out of 10 on a scale of 1 to 10. 7.5 it was solid. Like I didn't hate it. Like there was fair enough action. There were like some jokes here and there, like I kind of knew that they weren't gonna get too crazy. But I kind of don't like how, with the reshoots and whatnot, they had something to where I'm like, okay, y'all setting up a whole lot of shit here, but they kind of cut some shit out. I'm like, okay, well, there you go. Uh, let me see the deleted scenes and I might bump it up to like an eight, maybe 8.5, depending on what I give ita.
Speaker 3:I'm giving it an 8. I really enjoyed it. Personally, I really enjoyed it. Despite of other things, I personally really enjoyed it. It's really good. I really enjoyed it. It's really good. I really enjoyed seeing Anthony Mackie as Captain America. I think he's absolutely hilarious and I think he had the perfect demeanor for a new Captain America. He's so buttoned up and cleaned, kind of cute. Wow, sorry.
Speaker 2:I give it a 7.8 out of 10. Now it will get an 8. I really appreciate the minorities stepping up and being the primary in this movie, and it was dope, Especially battling against Harrison Ford, Even though he looked Harrison Ford was old now yeah, when he untransformed from the Hulk I was like man he old. Yeah.
Speaker 3:That was a little scary.
Speaker 2:I was like look at these flabby muscles. These ain't even muscles, it's loose skin and old balls.
Speaker 3:Did you have to say that? Did you have to say the old balls?
Speaker 2:part. Yes, I did, I got that.
Speaker 1:I'm like fucking Steve Rogers. I caught that reference.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's what's up.
Speaker 1:It was funny because I was thinking about that movie earlier today For real.
Speaker 2:It's a good movie.
Speaker 1:I was thinking about the one scene with the McMuffin.
Speaker 3:I'm like you know what?
Speaker 1:I'm right next to a McDonald's where I work and I'm like you know what, I'll just slide over there for a McMuffin. I was thinking about that one scene.
Speaker 2:I'm about to get this kid a Happy Meal. Shout out to Happy Gilmore, but um production.
Speaker 1:Um Big Daddy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a good movie but, um, yeah, I give it 7.8. I really think that, uh, they could have did a little bit more as far as creative writing, and it ain't more so on the acting part of it, it's more so on the future of Marvel and it was a nice setup for all the different things that could happen. And it's great to have Anthony Behnke as the first Avenger to highlight the highlight back to Captainke as the first Avenger to highlight the highlight back to Captain America being the first Avenger. Captain America the first Avenger it was one thing.
Speaker 1:Speaking of references, it's one thing I want to mention. I also like how I was at the theater with my friend shout out to Apocrypha. I was at the movie theater with him watching the film and there was this one part where Sam was talking to Joaquin and then Sam was telling Joaquin, you don't have to come with me if you don't want to. And I remember, oh wait, steve said the same thing to Sam and fucking at the, the end, that Winter Soldier. And I was like, oh well, you don't have to come with me if you don't want to. And I was like, I know so when we get started, and it was like the same thing, but like worded differently. I was like, oh, I got that reference he said the same thing, steve said them but, yeah, all in all, I know we didn't, I mean we kind of did talk
Speaker 1:about the movie, but at the same time I don't want to say too much or give away too much. I want to say honestly, everybody should just give the movie a chance Because either way it does set up For Doomsday like they are trying to segue the movie into Doomsday, so that way, by the time you watch that movie, thunderbolts and Fantastic Four no more Marvel movies until Doomsday comes out next May. But yeah, I stand by what I said. I'm standing on that briefcase when I say 7.5 out of 5. Damn, I keep doing that. I'm so used to the star system. If it was on a star system, I would say it would have been like a 3.5 out of 5 star. Was on the star system, I would say it would have been like a 3.5 out of 5 stars because it was pretty good. But the main thing that killed it for me is they had deleted scenes that would have introduced a whole lot more potential. But and I can understand that they were trying not to be getting in trouble, universal, trying to make it sound like, hey, you're not supposed to make a whole movie without permission, but uh, y'all got anything else y'all want to add on before we go ahead and close this one out no, I'm good
Speaker 1:you're good, I'm good, all right with that being said, I do thank y'all for being on the show and I I guess the next time I'm going to be talking about Marvel is Daredevil Born Again, and I'm hoping that. I mean, based on how they're hyping it up, I'm really hoping that is just as good as the Netflix series, if not better, netflix series, if not better. Debbie Phantom. Thank you for participating in this review. How are you feeling?
Speaker 4:about Captain America Brave New World. So Captain America has always been one of my favorite Marvel characters, heroes in the MCU all the way to the the comics like he's one of my favorites, and to see um anthony mackie take the role of cast in america was amazing. I thought he was amazing and just good performance in performance right.
Speaker 4:So when I watched the movie I was invited by my local theater and a bunch of other nerds to come and see the movie and they actually displayed it in a 1945 old theater so it kind of like gave that vibe. It was kind of really cool. But overall this movie just hit the spot. I'm excited to see what comes next but the plot was good. Good, thaddeus being elected president, sam wilson and joaquin the new cats in american falcon. I love joaquin. I thought he was the funniest little character ever. Like walking in, like I'm gonna be the new falcon. Falcon and sam's like no, you're not. And at the end they're like yeah, you are.
Speaker 1:So he was like whoa, hold on, you gotta go through the right channels before you become the new falcon exactly.
Speaker 4:I just thought that was. He made it funny. I know there was a lot of serious points, but he's just being like the act of comedy just made it even better, gave me the old MCU vibes a little bit. So this is funny and I know I'm gonna kind of move on. When they stated that they were in norfolk virginia. No, they weren't. That is not my home city, that's my home city. That was not norfolk virginia. Sorry, um, but like I said, ross being elected the president, the whole going to the White House Scene was amazing. Them going to go see. Oh, my goodness, I just lost it, sorry. Them going to go see. I wrote it down in my notes. I'm sorry, okay.
Speaker 1:And this happened in the movie right.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, absolutely Isaiah Bradley, Like them all going in and just the scene where, like where the flashing of the phone and the little sound goes off, I'm like, oh, this seems oddly familiar. What else, super soldier, we know who is, you know commanded by other things, and I'm like, does that mean we're going to see Sebastian Stan?
Speaker 1:Well.
Speaker 4:I have a girl crush on Sebastian. I have a crush on Sebastian Stan. Period point blank.
Speaker 1:Sorry, Bucky, I'm a Bucky girl oh my god, Bucky just gives me so much PTSD in Marvel Rivals nowadays.
Speaker 4:I mean him.
Speaker 1:I'm damn dangerous Again.
Speaker 3:Again, again, again, again Again.
Speaker 2:Again.
Speaker 3:Thank you.
Speaker 1:Nah, go ahead.
Speaker 4:No, that was funny. Um Us saying we get to see the Red Hulk I kind of mentioned a little bit. Isn't he supposed to have guns? Wink, wink. But we'll move on to that, um yeah. So I think my favorite part, obviously, if you don't know, wilson is consoled by bucky barnes. Him coming into the room was like the cherry on the top, like everything was perfect, like that was the greatest scene ever, in my opinion when ruth came into the room and was like he's cute, is that for? Is that future james buchanan, barnes, congressman, and sam's like you know, he's like a hundred something and she goes and she was like nah, I'm, I'm cool with it, I'm I work with it I work around it.
Speaker 1:I don't like I could just gloss over that detail. I'm like bro, I would just think like Ruth damn, she just folded.
Speaker 4:Me too. I would have done it too In a heartbeat. No, absolutely not. I would have done it, I would have handled it.
Speaker 1:The fact that he's running for congressman, that means that he is in a weird I won't say weird, but it would be kind of interesting if it gets to a point where, oh shit, what if we get president Buchanan Bucky the president?
Speaker 4:don't even get me started on that, he will rule this country with an adamantium fist. I know it's vibranium but you with an adamantium fist.
Speaker 1:I know it's vibranium but you know, with adamantium now being part of the MCU, you know he can like change your arms. So it's like you can upgrade to adamantium, because supposedly adamantium is stronger than vibranium.
Speaker 4:And you have me, the future first lady Sebi, here. Oh hail me, okay anyway. So just this movie in general just made me have a lot of like nostalgia going back in with the Avengers when Ross was like you need to get the Avengers back. Sam Joaquin Ruth, a former Black Widow she might be coming into the picture If we had a cameo of Bucky. Does that mean he might be joining too? Like just the fact that we're seeing a bunch of little like details trying to figure out where everything you know is.
Speaker 1:I think he'll probably be too busy leading the Thunderbolts.
Speaker 4:That's true, I didn't think of it. I didn't think of that.
Speaker 1:I get it, I mean he'll still like collaborate with the Avengers, but it's more like While y'all do the Typical hero stuff, we're gonna do the Cobalt art. You know, hush, hush type missions.
Speaker 4:Yeah, absolutely. Um. Again, the uh co-board art, uh, you know hush hush type missions. Yeah, absolutely, um again. Just going over, cast anthony mackie. He always plays a really good falcon. Obviously he plays a really good captain america. His suit was badass. Yes, like that suit was amazing. The wings, the shield, everything together was like A Falcon.
Speaker 1:America Gotcha. So, thomas Madge, welcome to the show. What's?
Speaker 5:poppin. It's the bald man Shining bright. What's up, hey?
Speaker 1:So, sebi, what were you saying With Anthony Mackie's performance and everything with the film?
Speaker 4:I was gonna say that everything about it was just perfection. In my opinion, um, it's our same old Sam Wilson that we've been getting from previous, with some spice on it Just made it better.
Speaker 1:Gotcha, gotcha. And was that all for you for now?
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's it for what I have for now okay, gotcha alright, so it's time to smash.
Speaker 1:What are your thoughts on Captain America? Brave New World as it stands today?
Speaker 5:I love Sam. I also loved him very much like in this movie. It was like it was a nice entry, um to like the new Captain America cause. When you come to look at it, they both face the same challenges and they both basically face the same villain. If you want to look at the technicalities, it's like they had a supervillain that was outsmarting them both from the background, and then they had to overcome their odds with the shield. And it's true what he said, like I do what he does, just slower. He wasn't wrong. It's like, yeah, he's doing literally the same thing. And then when the leader comes in which, granted, I hated Everything about the leader. I hated everything about how he looked.
Speaker 1:Yeah. I mean they could have cooked with a Common, accurate. Look like I would say Jimmy Neutron had ads over. Reject Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle over here.
Speaker 5:Well, they. So I was looking up on some interviews and the actor who played as a leader he stated that they did have, um, a good concept of the leader like big head with the goatee and hair. The leader like big head with the goatee and hair, uh, he just, yeah, he just basically looked like an older Jimmy Neutron, but that was like that's what you know, we know as the leader. And then they scrapped that. They turned around and they said, how about if we make him look gross? And he personally hated the idea. But well, I mean, it's marvel. So they, they had to go with it anyways.
Speaker 5:Um, then that's why they didn't cast most of his like, most of his face.
Speaker 1:Time was kept to like a brief, brief part of the movie I don't know how much pull he had, but he should have been like olivia mum, when she was like no, no, no, no, no. If I'm going to be Psylocke, I need the comic accurate suit.
Speaker 5:Well, that's the thing, because he himself is not like a full comic book nerd. He likes the heroes, he likes the villains, but he's not like us. You know us, like you, me, um, me, senna, he's not like us. You know, like us nerds, that we do like accuracy when it comes to live action movies. But then you know, if you don't push at it, you're not gonna get it right. Olivia, olivia, when she did psylog she, it was either her way or kiss my ass. And they knew for a fact that olivia was fucking perfect to play as psylog. She was and she still is. If they, if they read like if you put her back and play that psylog again, I guarantee you she's gonna do an amazing work. I'm serious work.
Speaker 4:I agree with you at that point. When Tim Nelson came on his turns, my husband, who sat behind me, went. The hell is that.
Speaker 1:I was like I would be so hype. It's like OK, I saw like the plaques and when I saw his name I was like, oh shit, that's the leader. And it was like, ok, the guy had him shadowy. I'm like okay, kind of teased to look. I'm like okay, cool, cool, cool. And then you finally get a look. I'm like what the fuck is this?
Speaker 5:Looks like a damn prune that's been out on the sun for.
Speaker 4:Not a prune.
Speaker 5:No, no, he, no, no. He looked like man. What did he look like? He looked like the pretty side of a donkey's asshole Jesus.
Speaker 1:He looked like something Stretched it up and spat out.
Speaker 5:And then drank it back in To spit it back out. Dude, it was horrible. The red hulk, though, so I mean I have, I have a couple of points. When I came to the red hulk because you know, this is general ross, we're talking about the man with one of the biggest ego in like almost all of marvel when it comes to humans, this guy, you can't negotiate With Ross, especially when it comes to the Hulk, and I know where. You give him a quick pep talk and he goes Damn, you're right. I mean I mean Okay, but the fight was really cool and the fact that they decided, yo, they went back Into, into the Celestials, I love that. I absolutely loved it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like we were saying that we're adding man to him now being part of the MCU Now, and I made a joke about bucky, since he's gonna be a congressman, uh, and since he's like closer to being a president than um, others, at this point I was thinking like imagine bucky being president, ruling all over the country with adamantium.
Speaker 5:I mean it probably won't happen but it'll be funny if it did she's gonna punch you out with an even harder fist, because we all know that adamantium is way harder than vibranium yeah yeah, but but the fact that it comes from a celestial is is like it's kind of weird.
Speaker 5:But yeah, I like it. It's not far from whatever. Anyways, the point that I wanted to get across is I like the fact that they decided to actually come back to the whole concept of the Celestials, because they just ignored that. For how many movies was that? It was a whole phase ago. It was a whole phase ago. It was a whole phase ago, dude, and they never touched that ever again. They never, um, they, it was never. It was barely brought up. And it was. If it was brought up, it was a small cameo shot on tv and then they just never touched it again. They were like we'll come back to this when we come back to this.
Speaker 1:Okay on the next episode of. Not Gonna Happen, wasn't that 2019 when it came out, 2019, almost right.
Speaker 5:Yeah, you know what? Let me look up to see. When was the Eternals launched? So, oh wait, I do not want to get rid of that page. That is my deck building For Magic the Gathering. I'm not going to lose that. Okay, hold up. Let me see here the Eternals.
Speaker 4:Came out 2021, if I remember.
Speaker 1:Oh, that was a little soon.
Speaker 5:It was. It was in 2021. That was three years ago.
Speaker 1:That's still a whole thing. Okay, that's not so bad. It's not as bad as 2019, okay, I don't know why I was thinking 2019. I was thinking something else. Oh wait, that was back when Infinity War. I don't know why I was thinking Infinity War.
Speaker 5:That's still three years that they could have at least walked around it. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 5:They did absolutely nothing with it, which fair enough. Okay, they decided to do something with it now. Okay, fine, you know, now or never, they decided now.
Speaker 1:Speaking of which, I still remember when we were talking way back, like crazy enough, I want to say about three years ago, when we were doing the mcu extreme review, how I was like my blood was boiling at the idea that hulk was so underutilized in the mcu. But that's mainly because of Universal and legal rights and them. I'm like, okay, fine, but god damn, like just imagine we could have had Red Hulk, we could have had the leader by now. Betty, who makes a cameo in this movie. You do know that she's supposed to be Red, she-hulk right, and it's going to be a while before we even see that because you know we gotta have to deal with Universal's bond. Give them the right to actually use the character. Really, I want to say this movie was the perfect excuse to say, okay, this is like a loose sequel to Incredible Hulk, but we're not going to call it that because of legal reasons.
Speaker 5:I mean, it's going to come up to a point where they're going gonna have to fight eventually and then it forms into the whole Hulk family. For those who don't know, there's like multiple Hulks, not just the Hulk and the Red Hulk, there's like a whole bunch.
Speaker 1:Amadeus Cho. He was supposed to be in this film but his parts got cut out so he might be in deleted scenes. We'll see.
Speaker 5:And you know what, if he didn't even show up, it wouldn't even matter.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the fact that they actually went there though.
Speaker 5:Yeah, you know what? But that's the thing, cho being there doesn't add on to it and doesn't take away from it.
Speaker 1:So yeah, like if he, if he does, great, if he doesn't, great, you know actually I think it would just make it more obvious that, uh, sam wilson even though, yes, him as a character and anthony mackie as an actor they did well, but it would just make it more obvious that they were more so trying to make a Hulk movie and Captain America was like the closest Avenger they can grab to be the star of this, like, because you know, most of the Avengers went off on their own things and of course it only makes sense for Sam to be the one to try to get the gang back together.
Speaker 1:So I get that part. But it's almost like kind of wish there was like how is this um related to sam in a way like how is this like personally affecting him? Like like I kind of wish it was like a little bit more political, like it kind of it kind of challenged his political views on the whole situation, kind of like what happened with steve rogers and winter soldier in civil war, where it's just seemed like he had this conflict of interest going on in the background. If we had that, the movie would probably have been A little bit more interesting.
Speaker 4:I just wish it was a little bit longer. I felt like towards the end it was a little bit rushed. Like we were trying to get Red Hulk Thaddeus Out there. I get it, but that scene of him becoming Red Hulk Ended like two seconds yeah, it's like it did not last as long as I thought it was.
Speaker 1:I thought he was gonna do a little bit more rampage, but it just felt like, oh well, yeah, he just uh fucked up the white house a little bit and then sam just let him go close to like not very far you know where the cherry blossoms are, but it's almost like not very far from the White House. So it's almost like, hey, yo, let's take this somewhere else real quick. But it's like, yeah, like you could have gave us at least 15 more minutes of Red Hulk and I'll be cool with it or like I don't know if you guys remember the series of the Avengers, the animated series.
Speaker 1:Earth's Mightiest Heroes or.
Speaker 5:Earth's Mightiest Heroes, where Bucky actually was the one who captured the serum, the blood serum that was to be utilized For Ross to become the Red Hulk. And he's like are you sure about this? And he's like I've never been more sure in my life. And then he injects himself. And then he has to, like Buggy has to fall ass out of the room because, like, he's turning into Red Hulk. That means that the fire's about to go off in two seconds, so you better get the hell out of there. And then, after that, it's's about to go off in two seconds, so you better get the hell out of there. Um, and then after that, it's like I think they were in the helicarrier by this time and everyone's like oh, um, we're receiving multiple reports of damages within the ship. Um, what's going on? And then one of the guys is like oh, it's the Hulk. And before he even finishes the sentence, like the line comes off.
Speaker 1:That also would have been a good concept oh, speaking of which main question that I was meaning to ask you guys, do you guys think that Sam should have taken the serum? Because I keep thinking of the funniest line in this whole film where he was like I should have taken that serum. Bucks is full of shit. How does y'all feel? Should he have taken the serum, or does he stand on business and try to handle it without it?
Speaker 5:You know what's the problem that I have with that is that at this point, Sam doesn't need it.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 5:Because he's already very skilled and he's got fucking reflexes. He's a normal guy. That's the fuck with me. He's just a normal human being. Yes, with added traits to himself that makes him into an amazing soldier. He's been to the military, he's very decorated, but at the end of the day he's just the normal guy who really knows how to use his Falcon suit.
Speaker 1:You know he reminds me of Buddy, who's like the captain of the main squad well, not the main squad, but like, uh, the main squad we follow and fire force I forgot his name, his name escapes me but um, the captain where he was the only one in squad eight that had like no power, like no firepower, but he just trains every single day, like sites him out. Like you know what I like that I.
Speaker 5:I think I know who you mean. Um captain obi. Yes, yes yeah, but hey, hold up, captain obi was, he wasn't a normal man let's be honest that man was not normal man. Let's be honest, that man was not human. You can't tell me that a regular human being is going to lift at his body build. If you look at his body build, he's not. He shouldn't be fucking capable to lift the amount of pounds that he's lifting. This man can lift a ton. He can power lift a ton.
Speaker 1:No problem. I mean it kind of makes sense for him because you know how, with buildings catching on fire, beams falling down, and he had to lift beams of people who probably pinned down to those beams, so he's probably so used to doing that. It's like pinned down to those beams, so he probably so used to doing that. It's like, yeah, like he definitely a power lifter yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5:And then you're gonna tell me that he's, that he can tank most of the demons that they were fighting, which already was. It was hard for some of the other characters to go like head to head with some of these demons. And then captain obi is going head to head with some of these demons and then Captain Obi is going head to head with them and he's not even breaking a sweat and he's like is that all you got? Is that, my boy? If that's all you got, you're gonna need more fire power than that. No pun intended. All of it intended like look, I got a fire extinguisher and an axe. What do you got? You got fire. You know what? I going to put that fire up your ass smack.
Speaker 1:And you want to know something that I just realized how, with both Steve Rogers and Sam Wilson, it's almost like they had no problems using guns and they're in their movies. Like remember, in the first Captain America movie Steve Rogers was used in a pistol and with Sam Wilson he was used, like, to automatic machine guns, like I don't know, it's like Uzi's or someone, but they had no problem using guns. But as soon as they pick up the shield, I'm like nah, pick up that blicky end.
Speaker 5:Like this guy. He got them gats and he was. He can like chew up at any moment. He was not fooling, he was not messing around.
Speaker 1:When um Ross was like you're not Steve Rogers and I You're right, I'm not. I hate that that was cut out of the actual movie, but if that was me, I would have had that semi-automatic and be like you're right, I'm not.
Speaker 5:Motherfucker, you're right, I'm not Watch this shit, I'm not. That would've been. All of this would've been so much more different If they would've get an extra action scene with Red Hulk just fucking losing it. Because Red Hulk is one of the few that, even in his angriest state, can still keep his composure. And oh, hold on, I wanted him to go nuts.
Speaker 1:Hold on. Speaking of composure, let's talk about Sidewinder. How Giancarlo man listen, like I told, told, I told Professor Tuck and Mirror Jane the same thing to where when it comes to his acting career. I just love how he had this stone cold composure, like ice in his veins and it kind of shows even in this movie as sidewinder to where it seemed like he's trying to kill captain america and just keeping his composure the whole time throughout the movie. I like his inclusion, but he was at it at the last minute because you know reshoots and all that, so we might see him in the serpent society. Come back later on.
Speaker 5:It was with Esposito, right? Yeah, I was kind of annoyed because if he was going to be Sidewinder, he's got more detail to the whole getup. Where's the getup?
Speaker 1:They kind of nixed that I guess they were trying to make the Serpent Society take him more seriously to get up. Yeah, like they kind of nixed that I guess they were trying to make him make, uh, the serpent society uh take him more seriously. So they went for okay, let's just make them like a covert ops group, like you know. They just like military, but like they kind of went rogue, so gotta make them look like soldiers rather than doing all that dress up shit. That's why I'm saying like, yeah, I can imagine them coming back later and maybe they'll um go full costume, but I don't know like once again, esposito's not gonna wear it, and yeah esposito's clearly stated he did not want to wear a comic accurate outfit in the beginning.
Speaker 4:So he was like, just give me blue eyes, we'll work it that way because esposito is one of those actors where he is not going to budge.
Speaker 5:You can try to convince him as much as you want shit, you can pay him as much as much as you can, you can give him a blank check and then, uh, just today's date, and you can just tell him it's like here, put whatever amount you want, he's still not going to do it.
Speaker 1:But I paid you, oh, and you think that gives you power over me.
Speaker 5:He's stated multiple times that if there's something that he doesn't feel comfortable in, he's not going to do it, and he's lost great roles, great possibilities on multiple roles. He could, he could have been, you know what you know what that's?
Speaker 1:hey, man stand on that briefcase, man you know what and I respect that.
Speaker 5:I'm gonna respect that because you know, stand your ground, you know, know your limits and I get that. You know he does very serious roles all the time. So fair enough if you don't want to do something that's not in in the serious part, because I mean, if you're doing, okay, let's be honest.
Speaker 1:If you're doing, to be but it also takes lots of of ground and you have to be the type of actor where you can't be like tom holland, for example.
Speaker 5:Like tom holland, he, he just recently joined all of this and he, let's let's also be fair he, he doesn't have that much footing to say it's like, reject roles all willy-nilly, as pocino does, because he's been voice actor in video games, movies, tv shows. I mean, come on, breaking bad, bad, come on.
Speaker 1:Hold on, let me spit this out real quick before I forget Carl Lumby, who plays Isaiah Bradley. Did you know that one of his more famous roles was Mantis, who actually was the first black superhero on television? So good shit, good shit, friend, good friend. He was also the voice of Martian Manhunter from the Justice League cartoons.
Speaker 5:I knew I recognized that voice yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I looked into it and I was like oh shit, he did that.
Speaker 5:Okay, okay, I see you. Yeah, he was the first John Jones. Was that in the animated series Like the first one that came out? Yeah, wow, yeah, I remember that.
Speaker 1:I remember the episode where it was christmas he, he was also the father of john jones and the super girl live action yeah, oh yeah, he was.
Speaker 5:Yeah, he was dude. That was an episode of the justice league where fucking, uh, martian man Manhunter went with Clark Kent to celebrate Christmas with his family and he was like, yeah, this to me does absolutely nothing to me, because we don't do Christmas in Mars. And he was like, well, tough shit, because you're celebrating it with us.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 5:It was all over. But to be honest and to be fair, like if Esposito is going to do comic book movies, it's best if they would have chose somebody else who's more willing to be a little bit more comic accurate. Look, okay, it's just, it's the fine bit more comic accurate. Look, okay, it's the fine line between comic accurate and making it a good movie. It's the fine line between there. And I don't know which line to step in, because if it's too comic accurate, you're probably just going to get a mess and then people are going to hate it. Then you're going to have the other side that's not comic accurate, and then people are just going to fuck the shit on it and then you have 0 out of 10 stars, but then on the other side you have like 5 out of 10 or 4 out of 10. And then you just get another Dragon Ball Z movie.
Speaker 4:Well, the reviews excuse me, the reviews on this are already.
Speaker 1:I'm not gonna lie to you, are quite poor already. Yeah, I don't even bother with most of the reviews because it's more like at this point ever since after endgame, it's almost as if, uh, people just want to believe that the mcu just going downhill from here. But I'm like I don't know I don't know about that. Like I want to say for the most part yeah, there's like some real stinkers, I'll admit, but for the most part I would say it was either mid, sadly, but either mid or surprisingly good.
Speaker 5:I don't know, dude, I showed no in that fucking symbiote movie. After they showed Null, I have been screaming like a little girl at the screen because Null will always be my favorite villain of all time. And the fact that they showed him and the way that he sounds and the way that everything, just everything about him and the way that he sounds, and then the way that everything, just everything, just everything about him I would love to see more of that. And people think it's like, oh, but the MCU is how about you? Suck a fuck. It's been good. We've been eating good on MCU movies. Okay, yeah, it's getting a little slow. They're trying to tell a story. It happens, I mean we're almost.
Speaker 1:We're like at the Footstep of Avengers, doom. That's literally next Year. So we're about to see, we're about to see some crazy shit happen Within the next two years from now. So all we got left is Thunderbolts and Fantastic Four as far as movies, and then we have Daredevil and Eyes of Wakanda as far as TV shows. I know there's that new Spider-Man cartoon, but I'm like I need to see that. I just need to take a look at it before I pass. It's actually really good. Um, it is okay, I'll check it out actually really good.
Speaker 5:Um, actually there's. There are things that people don't like, like norman osborne, for example, being black. It doesn't make any difference whatsoever, I think it actually even listen like, yeah, I race, swap, gender swap.
Speaker 1:Hey, if the character is well written I will roll it.
Speaker 5:He's so well written dude, the way that he talks, the way that he acts, the way that he is, it's like you're not. You're not just seeing a regular norman osborne, you're seeing another side of Norman, where even he scolded Doctor Strange at one moment Because there was something that happened that Doctor Strange accidentally caused and it wasn't necessarily him, it was just something that happened and Norman was like like scolding him. He was like it's your fault that we have to deal with like all this, uh, rubble and all this destruction. Because he was like you come on in and destroy our city and then us normal people have to pick up, uh, all the dirt of all the destruction you guys create. And and then he opens a portal. Shit happens, something comes out of the portal. Peter has to do his thing, doctor Strange has to do his thing. Norman's just a normal human being.
Speaker 5:But I'm not going to spoil anything. This show's actually really good so far. I would actually give it a 9.2 out of 10. This movie of captain america, I actually give it a 7.1 out of 10. Okay, fair enough, because the quality is great, the action is great, the story is very well told. There are some missing components that I don't want to get too much into detail with, but frankly, I believe that what they were trying to get at was in the lines of hopefully, in the future we'll get the new Avengers, because we have the Vision. We're missing Nova. We're missing Miles Morales. We have Miss Marvel, the Indian Girl. We have Tony, tony Stark People think he's not dead. Marvel will never kill off their characters. I don't know why they'll never kill off their characters. And then Thor is chilling. Thor's chilling. He's doing his own thing. Everybody's doing their own thing. He's probably back in Asgard drinking another beer. I mean, we did lose his little girlfriend.
Speaker 1:She's in Asgard, but he also adopted the villain's daughter, so it's like a he's kind of like an adoptive father, even though it's more like See Love calls him, even though it's more like she love calls him Uncle Thor. But I'm like, yeah, just take care of my daughter. For me, you a dad now you a father.
Speaker 5:Take care of that girl and she gonna beat some ass when she gets older. I mean she can wield Thunderbreaker without a problem and Mjolnir lets her grab Mj Thunderbreaker without a problem and Nelonir lets her grab Nelonir without a problem. So I mean she's worthy as fuck. But regardless of like it could lead up to, just eventually we get the new Avengers from that reality cause. Like shit we have. How many Avengers do we have at this point? Over 15 different groups in like multiple combinations. We got combinations where it's like a future foundation Spider-Man with the thing, and I don't even think you can even consider that the new Avengers. Then there's even one where where T'Challa joins the Avengers at one point and then there's multiple different groups and shit, and then at one Point he decides to add Mr Immortal, which is Like why would I want him.
Speaker 3:He's so useless.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they had some very obscure characters in the She-Hulk show which, by the way, she-hulk was also part of the Fantastic Four fun fact. So, like it would be kind of interesting if, like, she gets like re reimagined in the MCU. Because the weird thing is they're trying to, like Thanos, snap the whole series from the line of almost like let's just pretend this light doesn't exist within the main continuity of the MCU. Uh, I don't know, almost like they're backtracking on it a little bit because of the fan backlash.
Speaker 1:But I don't know, I kind of want Seahawk to still be a thing, but just not like in a way to where it just seems like she come across as anti-superhero, because it's just ironic, because in the comics she was all for being an avenger and shit, but and um, in the show she was like against it. She was like more focused on her career and probably getting a boyfriend and I'm like, hey, that's fair, I mean, it's her life. But like it just felt more like she was a little antagonistic over the superhero thing. And the only time she ever even liked the idea Of being She-Hulk is when she was getting Attention that she normally don't get From people, like with the whole Wedding episode and how she showed Up in her She-Hulk form, because she knew she would get more attention in that form Than in her normal form.
Speaker 5:You can't blame her, though, because you know she was forced into Joining a superhero life. It's not like she wanted To be a superhero Like out of nowhere. I mean accidents happen, but the, the series I don't. How do I, how do I say this without Pissing people off man?
Speaker 1:Let's be honest, sometimes you gotta have to take that risk. That's why I do every podcast episode Like I might piss some people off, but fuck it, I'm gonna say what I gotta say with my chest.
Speaker 5:I don't wanna annoy, I mean I'm gonna annoy people regardless, but look, the show was good. I enjoyed the show. To annoy people regardless, but look, the show was good. I enjoyed the show. I sat down, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed everything that Marvel comes out with. I sit down and I enjoy it Because, regardless of the fact I'm watching what I was born and raised with from start to finish and I'm enjoying it.
Speaker 5:But when it comes to when it comes to She-Hulk I mean, if they bring her back, congratulations I'm glad they just shouldn't have never done. How can I word this? They shouldn't have done the series the way that they did, especially with the ending. Megan Thee Stallion had no fucking reason to be there. Megan Thee Stallion, like I get it, it was a joke and I get that she was doing that fourth wall break that Deadpool loves doing on every second basis. But like, look, it was getting old real quick. It was still very enjoyable. I would give it a. I'd give it a 5.3 out of 10. And that's me being merciful, but I don't know how to even continue. I'm just gonna leave it at that. I'm just gonna leave it at that because you know what? I'm just gonna leave it at that. I'm just going to leave it at that, because you know what? I'm just going to leave it at that.
Speaker 1:This is yours, alright. So have you got anything you want to add on to all that?
Speaker 4:I was going to say One. I've never seen the She-Hulk series. I've seen, like, the latter parts of it. I probably won't watch it. Sorry, not sorry. Um, regarding the movie, I'm going to give it a 7.5. The 0.5 is for bucky barnes, because I'm his future wife.
Speaker 1:Um, yeah, but that's that's all I have about this movie yeah, yeah, I was thinking I said 7.5 in the first segment. I still stand on at this point because I guess you can say I have more reason now, because my thing is, first of all, if there was like that political aspect where we can kind of relate to this sort of issue happening, kind of like what, uh, kind of sort of what the steve rogers trilogy tried to do. But that was the one thing. The the second thing is what if they teased the leader as the main bad guy in all the promo and Red Hulk was a complete surprise? If they did that, I would have bumped the score up to like an 8.5.
Speaker 1:I always wanted to be a part of the MCU, is now part of the MCU, and it's not like it was telegraphed to me in fucking movie posters and trailers. To where it's almost like let's be honest like if Red Hulk wasn't in the film, people would have been less inclined to see it in total, to where it's like, ah well, we don't really care about the leader. I mean, unless you're like a incredible whole fan from all the 27, the 2007 movie, and you're just like, okay, you just want to look for some payoff from that storyline. But outside of that, if it wasn't for the red, I think a bunch of folks probably would have passed on it, but I would probably was seeing it anyways, just to give it a chance, see what, what they got going on, because, considering the fact that this movie was supposed to be called new world order instead of brave new world, I was thinking like, oh shit, the first one sounded tough but and I guess they had to change it because uh, mmm, it just there's some crazy people saying some shit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but uh yeah, 7.5, um, sounds about right for this film right now. Uh, Sytom, are you sure that's all you had to add on to the movie? Hmm, onto the movie.
Speaker 5:Hmm, I still say that what they did with the leader making it look like a physical aspect of a fart- Stop. It's horrible, dude, it was just so bad. He just he looked like a wart A really bad wart. He looked like an overcooked. He looked like an wart A really bad wart.
Speaker 1:He looked like an overcooked goblin.
Speaker 5:He looked like. Have y'all ever seen? No, I'm not.
Speaker 4:Welcome to the roast of the leader. How many jokes can?
Speaker 5:we create. I was gonna say if you guys ever seen the video you girls?
Speaker 3:no, no, no.
Speaker 5:That was so gross. Okay, it's just. It was just so bad it was. It was like a crumbled up piece of paper painted green.
Speaker 4:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:It was like wow, it was like one of those green piles of Play-Doh and somebody just forgot to smooth them out when they're done playing with them.
Speaker 5:It looks like when an obese person has a life transformation, that they go from really obese to skinny and then they have just all that additional skin. His head went through that.
Speaker 4:Oh my gosh.
Speaker 5:He went through that transformation and then he just said I want to go outside and look like this You're done, you're done. He looked like have y'all ever seen someone get slapped really hard by a truck?
Speaker 4:By a truck.
Speaker 5:By a truck. Just fucking Multiply that times two and then shit on it. That's the leader.
Speaker 1:Man. I probably wouldn't have gone that far. I would say he looked like something that rolled under your couch or you know a piece of food that rolled under your couch or your table or not, and it was just on the ground for like two, three weeks. It got moldy and shit and you just like I kind of don't want to touch it. I don't know why, but his head looks like it might feel slimy to touch. You're going to get the cheese touch.
Speaker 5:I'm like Right, like if you touch him your fingers are just gonna go, Just like at the touch. If you tell me that he becomes a villain in Dark Souls or Elden Ring. If you tell me he's like a final boss, I'd believe you. If you tell me he's like a final boss, I'd believe you if you tell? Me. He's a character in Bloodborne. I'd believe you no, no, no.
Speaker 1:he look like if Dr Frankenstein fired Igor and he was like the replacement and then he just walking in limping like yes man dude.
Speaker 5:No, like he looks like what Igor would look like if he would have experimented on himself. I would have been like yeah, you know what? I'm a normal human now. And then you go like yeah, no, he's not, You're not, you're not normal.
Speaker 5:But you're not See man. Um, then, if you have you ever heard of the game, uh, high on life? No, it was like. Uh, it's like a video game where it was like based off of, like rick and morty kind of um, the character. Some of the voice actors are in there, um, there's just a lot of aliens in there that just look like hell. If you tell me that he came out of that video game, yeah, I'd also believe you. He looks like you know what. I'm just going to end it here with this last one. He looks like. I was messing with Jello the other day and I was kind of cutting it into pieces and then I was like, huh, what if I just throw gravy onto this, like regular beef gravy? What if I just throw it onto you? I didn't do it, but then I thought about it and then I thought to myself that'd be gross. Yeah, I felt the same way. That's pretty much it for me.
Speaker 1:I hated the character, yeah yeah, like, see one thing, like okay, I know y'all weren't on when we reviewed season four with the boys, but man, like, at this point, I now hate the trope of the smart character. Well, the super smart character, how can I explain this? You know, with Sister Sage, where she's supposed to be the smartest woman on the planet. And I'm honestly going to have the same problem when it comes to Reed Richards, and I'm going to explain him when we get to the Fantastic Four review. We're going to talk about all the Fantastic Four movies, by the way, all of them, by the way, especially the new one.
Speaker 1:But let me get to my point, the super smart character, where it just seemed like, oh well, they kind of got this Eisen thing going on. Oh, I planned for all this different shit, blah, blah, blah. And I'm sitting there like he did not convince me that he was playing 40 chess with everybody, exactly. It just sounded like, oh well, he just took advantage of Ross trying to stay alive with his failing heart. So he just kind of dosed the pills that he was giving up with gamma radiation because he knew that Ross wasn't going to hold up his end of the bargain. Let him out of that camp if the leader helped Ross get his job as president. But my whole thing is that this guy I just wasn't convinced that he was playing for DHS at all, so I kind of understand that sentiment. And also, this dude looks like the makeup artist couldn't tell if, like okay, it's almost like saying, should we make him look like an alien or a zombie and you know what?
Speaker 5:Yes, Do you guys want to make him look like shit or you guys want to make him look like something straight out of any gutter in, like the swamps of fucking Louisiana?
Speaker 1:Bro, you were like Swamp Thing's cousin.
Speaker 5:Damn, that's really fucked up. Swamp Thing's cousin, fuck, fuck.
Speaker 4:Or Eppie.
Speaker 5:You know um, did you guys? You all saw Rick and Morty right, Mm-hmm. Did you ever? Do you guys remember that robot that Rick created? Kind of like to improvise? He created two of them because they needed to do a heist.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5:Yeah, you know that Heistatron was just pulling it out of his ass. He wasn't really that far ahead. That's what I felt like the leader was doing. It's like, no, I don't think you were really putting that much thought into everything that just happened. I think you just were just really lucky and then you just go like my job here is done.
Speaker 2:But you didn't do anything. I'm not.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it just felt like the fact that his plan I don't know, just I said what I said, the fact that his plan I don't know, just I said what I said His plan was just Okay, it worked.
Speaker 5:What worked Exactly?
Speaker 1:I'm just gonna dose you with gamma radiation until you end up losing your cool and I just have you ruin your credibility and all that shit. But I'm like to be fair, like, if ross did keep his composure, like that would have actually been more of a. It's almost like the leader actually helped him, if anything. Like I understand that with hulk forms, the only person who was able to master their form was she-hulk, but uh, you know, like didn't have like the immediate rage issue. But then again, like men, like we kind of go through shit that we don't like talking about, but uh, that's beside the point.
Speaker 1:Uh, if ross was able to control his anger, even though he was able to like control eventually, uh, people already associate the hulks. Like oh, so are you a good guy? Or because, like yeah, like the whole thing with new orleans, with hulk versus abomination, that was years ago. So it's to a point to where, like so, um, you got a hulk as a president, okay, cool. Like so we got a president that can absolutely fight, okay, okay, okay. But when you start destroying the White House, like okay, he's on some bullshit.
Speaker 5:When you come to look at it, none of the Hulks, even if they're heroes, they're not heroes Because they all share this one thing that they're all connected to the greatest evil that exists throughout the cosmos. And I know for a fact that they're never going to touch that story ever, and it's from the one below all. I know for a fact that they're not going to touch that character, probably never. And if they do, it's going to touch that character Probably never. And if they do, it's going to be between here to another fucking 10 years. And I don't know if you guys know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1:I don't, but for some reason I'm thinking Mephisto.
Speaker 5:Okay, so you guys know the one above all, which is like the god of Marvel. So the one below all is like his counter-creation. Where he is, he is everything that's evil. Yeah, the thing is is that he's. All the energy that he's emitting is gamma radiation. When bruce became the hulk, a doorway opened up. Subconsciously. He doesn't know that this happened because he uh, the one below all wiped his memory. Um, and then they had a conversation and they were like oh, there'll come a moment where you'll be my vessel and you will set me free from this prison, yada, yada, yada.
Speaker 5:There did come a moment in a comic book where the one below does use the Hulk as his body and then, as that body was, you know, being gauntleted by the one below. The amount of power that the Hulk was emitting was so great that nobody could stop him. One above had to intervene, could not stop him. All the Celestials tried, they couldn't stop him. All the Celestials tried, they couldn't stop him. All the other gods, Even the number two, best, strongest god that they have, couldn't stop him either. And it came to a point where One below Hulk Conquered everything. He won. Where, you know, one below Hulk conquered everything, he won, they have a chance to release that.
Speaker 1:And I know for a fact they're not going to. Yeah, that sounded too ambitious with them, so I will doubt it too.
Speaker 5:Shit, I can make a script right now, I can make it right now.
Speaker 1:I mean yeah, there's no stopping you from making like a fan-made movie of it, like I mean, well, no, hold on, this is still legal things, but like shit. Like well, hold on. But then again, some folks do be making fan-made things, but it doesn't like go straight to theaters and I guess you just do need to ask for, like permission to use certain characters or a certain likeness or whatnot. But yeah, like I would say like at least like an animation, like 3d animation of it. That would be cool. I'll probably do that I'll.
Speaker 5:I'll send you the. I'll send you guys the comic where, where it comes from, because it gets nasty Not nasty in the form of that's a lot of disgusting shit. It's more of like I wouldn't have never expected for something that strong to exist. That's not in anime, you know what I mean. It just gets to a point where you just go like, is anybody gonna stop this guy?
Speaker 1:and no, the villain wins oh, uh, you know what, let's go ahead and wrap up this review and, um, leave it on that note because, uh, I need to go ahead and get this edited and put out here and it's also going to be running a little too long at some point. But, um, I do thank you guys for being on on the show with me and we're gonna go ahead and go so to the listener. You take it easy, have a good morning, good evening. Well, good morning, good afternoon and good night.
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