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Fairy Tail: The Xtreme Review (Part 4: Seasons 7, 8 & 9)
What happens when celestial spirits rebel, dark guilds emerge, and family secrets are unveiled? Join us as we uncover the final chapters of Fairy Tail's original run. We navigate the intense Tartaros arc, where Mard Geer and his demons pose a formidable challenge, and celestial spirits undergo dramatic transformations during the Eclipse Celestial Spirit arc. These storylines build up to a crescendo of tension and stakes, leaving us on the edge of our seats. We also discuss the fascinating parallels with other popular series like "Attack on Titan" and "Dragon Ball Z," drawing connections between Fairy Tail's intricate plot twists and those detective-like mysteries that keep us guessing.
In a world where friendship is the ultimate magic, we shine a spotlight on the complex relationships and character growth that define Fairy Tail. Lucy's evolution from a supportive figure to a pivotal character in critical plot moments showcases her strength and independence, while Silver's troubled past as Grey's father adds layers of emotional depth to their father-son dynamic. Our conversation takes a closer look at the personal journeys and transformations of other key players like Juvia, Gajeel, and Laxus, as well as the moral complexities surrounding Zeref, leaving us questioning whether he is a villain or just a victim of circumstance.
As we wrap up this episode, we hint at the exciting possibilities ahead, including the 100 Year Quest and other works by Hiro Mashima like Rave Master and Edens Zero. With our special guest, hero pinch bagging, adding fresh insights, we reflect on the intricate family dynamics and unexpected plot twists that have reshaped our understanding of Fairy Tail's epic tale. Stay nerdy with us as we anticipate new adventures and enriched storytelling, ensuring there's always more to explore in the world of anime.
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what up nerds we are here. This is the final leg of the fairy tale extreme review, well before the 100 year quest, but I kind of consider it like a sequel series. So I don't know, I don't know how I feel. I'm gonna say it was a sequel series, but this is going to conclude the 328 episode run of fairy tale, at least the original run. So let's just go ahead and get into it. For starters, uh, season seven technically there was like some spillover from the grand magic games, but you know how that went down. Tournament, next thing, you know, dragons attack. That gets resolved moving on right.
Speaker 1:Alright, let's go ahead and get into the eclipse, celestial spirit art, to where apparently the celestial spirit, the one Lucy has with the keys well, not just Lucy, but it was, uh, you can know too. Uh, apparently they had like this Zanpato art, you know, like the art that bleach had to, where it's apparently the weapons like have personalities and shit, but they also rebel against their uh wielder, but it's, um, it's different, of course, in this one. But let me just say, some of these celestial spirits like decided to rebel against Lucy and the human world and I'm like, why did their trip go so hard though, like especially Leo and Virgo. I'm like hey, yo like, can they keep those outfits though?
Speaker 3:yeah, leo's my favorite, yeah.
Speaker 2:I like how a lot of them ended up changing their personality. Their outfit was the complete polar opposite of what they are. You know what I'm saying, and it fits so well because it's a complete 180. It almost reminds me of the Edelus arc Do you guys remember that?
Speaker 1:Where everything is like backwards pretty much, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's funny you're saying that because the most recent episode was a callback to the Edilis arc.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I remember that from the manga too, yep.
Speaker 1:The most recent episode, 100 year quest. By the way, I'm not going to confuse anybody, but yeah, I really like that part, um, but for the most part, you know, it was a short arc so it was not bad. Just, you know, it was something. I guess it was an anime exclusive as a matter of fact.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was no va but and uh, I mean for what it was worth it was. It was good to kind of give us an insight on on, you know, a little bit of like the spirits. It wasn't necessary, but it was okay. You know it wasn't, like you know, groundbreaking, so I understand it yeah, fair enough.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like I didn't hate it, but you know it was something.
Speaker 4:I just feel like Aquarius, his representation was not accurate. That's all I'm gonna say yeah, I was.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think I saw Aquarius for him too. I remember that.
Speaker 1:And um, yeah, I'm not gonna lie, I was also a little bit disappointed with that as an Aquarius, I was definitely disappointed because I don't feel like man, you know what Can we not right now, because I'm still feeling some type of way ever since At the tail end of the Tartaros arc Speaking of which, oh yeah, let's go ahead and talk about that. So the Tartaros arc, this arc was so fucking thick, with 90 episodes Well, no, the whole total of season 7 was 90 episodes, but 39 of that was the Tartarus arc. I don't know the way they structured it between how they got it in the production order versus you watch it on Prime Video, however you watch it. Prime video, however you watch it. It's like weird, like that.
Speaker 1:But the whole point being is that Tartarus arc was very thick to where it was a whole bunch of demons that was plotting to try to help their master Zerub resurrect END. And essentially they're like these cults, kind of like with the Avatar on cults that we're going to be talking about a little bit later. But at this point it's all about Zerath, where, like, okay, we had all those dark guilds, those bad guys, but at this point that was like warmer compared to now. We're going to be focusing on Zerath and Atnolodia, right? So at this point, this dark guild is comprised of a bunch of demons called the Nine Demon Gates, led by Mark Gear and a whole bunch of other people. There was like Kyoka. I'm forgetting some. I'm sorry, but to be honest, fairytale like to throw a lot of characters at you and sometimes they come back, sometimes they don't, so it's like it's hard to keep track of all of them but Avengers freaking assemble cast yeah, like it was like a whole bunch of demons, but man, like it got crazy, like.
Speaker 1:For starters, let me talk about Silver, now that I remember him, silver, grey's father, right? Grey thought that Silver died when he bought Delior right. Sober died when he bought Delior right. But yeah, he did die, but it's more like his body was being used like a puppet for the most part.
Speaker 4:Yeah he was resurrected by the Necromancer.
Speaker 1:Yeah, keys, they were like, yeah, you know what, we could have just discarded you at any moment. But you know, just for fun, let's just keep him around. Yeah, you know what, um, we could have just discarded you any moment. But you know, just for fun, let's just keep them around, you know? But, oh, bro, listen, like it was kind of fucked the way juvia had to do what she had to do to release silver from his curse and whatnot.
Speaker 1:And gray was like, okay, I'm gonna inherit, uh, his demon slayer magic and I'm gonna put it into end. And then I'm just thinking to my head like, because I knew about this, because I read a little bit of the manga, that's why I was like kind of in and out with fairy tale, like I was kind of keeping up, but not consistently. But I knew that nasu was end before this moment. And I'm sitting here having the same moment that I was thinking about with, uh, black dynamite, where I'm like I'm gonna put into end and like, but great, I'm end dynamite, dynamite but nah, it didn't even go down like that.
Speaker 1:But you know, they did have that little Naruto Sasuke moment In the Alvarez arc, but it didn't even go down like that. It was more like hey, man, listen, I don't even give a fuck about any of that, you're my friend, we gonna talk about the Alvarez arc. We gonna get there.
Speaker 4:We gonna talk about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we gonna be bouncing back and forth. It's a loaded question when, when you go, when you go back, we actually when, as you go through the anime, you start piecing together that things that kind of just make sense, you're like why is this person acting this certain way?
Speaker 1:yeah this is why I say that this is a five-star anime.
Speaker 2:I don't care what anybody else says to be honest or anime, because yeah, when I when I first started watching it, I was like, well, I need something to pick up on. This is long. Honestly, this is just going back to the initial, like I don't know first five episodes where like oh, this guy is you know happy-go-lucky, whatnot.
Speaker 2:And then it scaled like as the arcs went through, you went to like the nirvana. You went through the oriasi through, you went through like the Nirvana. You went through the Oriental space, you went through you know, um, a whole bunch of dark stuff, you know. And then for me I guess it went to the grand magic games where everything was tying together like the mystery of the dragons, you know, uh, why all the dragon slayers kind of know each other. And then, even as you go now, like even in the alvarez arc and even in the tartarus arc, you start piecing even more things together, like whoa, it's like you know you have a whole puzzle piece that started before you know the anime even took place fairy tale turns you into an extreme detective yes, because, listen, like I got to these last arcs and I'm saying like, I'm like it's the same way how I felt about Attack on Titan.
Speaker 1:Once you get to a certain point, you're just looking back at everything else before that and you're like wait a minute, Wait a minute.
Speaker 4:Okay, I do want to mention this, though why did we never know? Okay, we know Grey had a daddy, but why did we never know we? Okay, we know gray had a daddy, but why did we not know that he had a daddy?
Speaker 1:you know, you know it felt like uh, uh, oh boy, uh megami and um toji. In a sense, it's almost like we didn't. We didn't about it until we needed to know about it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, true, that makes sense. It's like I guess you know the author didn't want to present it yet because they knew that he had plans for that. And yeah, just like in Jujutsu Kaisen, the same exact, you know, we knew of him. And it's funny because he basically just beat the shit out of his own son until he's like wait, he did Pretty much. That's so true. You meet your son for the first time and you just straight up body him and then you're like, oh, were you.
Speaker 4:I'm not going to lie. I feel like Vegeta would have done that.
Speaker 3:I feel like.
Speaker 1:I have this power Now. I like the way Vegeta found out Trunks was his son. It was more. He was just trying to piece it together Like wait, hold on. My son's name is Trunks and you're Trunks and you're from the future and you're a sand.
Speaker 4:Okay, okay. Question Does Silver fall under the category of worst anime dads?
Speaker 1:No no.
Speaker 4:Okay, tell me, why not.
Speaker 2:The reason is because his body was being controlled, so he wasn't deliberately attacking and doing all these evil deeds.
Speaker 1:Because he had no control over it he was also aware of it and felt guilty about it, so he can't be a bad person for doing it. It's more like he was doing it against his will and on top of that it was like, okay, he had his whole life before he died, so he could have been a good father, stand-up dad, up until that moment. And then he got controlled by keys and the Tartaro demons and then, next to you know, he pretty much did all that did, especially in Sun Village arc. I know we kind of glossed over that one, but you know it was more like OK, they Funny enough, that's where Flair shows up. Turns out she was from there and she's like kind of an ally, not in fairytale, but an ally.
Speaker 1:You know, a bunch of people that they fought before. They're gonna be fighting with them up into these last parts. So I I kind of like that moment, uh, but that's beside the point uh, with silver it was like I'm not gonna even hold that up to you, bro, like because I feel like you were manipulated to do all that shit the whole time because he's magic and all that shit, so I'm not going to even hold that to you. In fact you're basically saying like okay, essentially, I learned Demon Slayer magic in order to help y'all. Essentially. Well, either I'm going to kill Margear and all them other people, people, or you're gonna have to do it for me, I expect I will say the fight was truly emotional and it was it was really intense and I loved it.
Speaker 3:It was my favorite moment in the arc he pretty much like got that upgrade and then seeing his abilities like in action, like that was probably one of my other favorite parts.
Speaker 3:And, um, I think silver too, why can't he really hold it against them?
Speaker 3:Because, uh, kind of going off other anime too, like with certain other anime characters, it's like, yeah, maybe they could have been there for their kids, sure, but there's just times when they're put into a situation, especially when we're talking like stuff full of fantasy and magic, right, um, if they were manipulated to a point where they just couldn't bow out, uh, they have to do things where they kind of just keep their you know, their kids out of it, even if it means, you know, appearing like the villain and essentially that's kind of a silver dead.
Speaker 3:And uh, I feel like it's also one of those things, too, where when people say, like they treated the kid badly and they're sitting there fighting them, it's like if they were truly going to be bad, uh, I feel like they probably could have really killed them if they wanted to, like they could have ended them right there if they didn't they held back in some way bro, listen, listen, like, okay, there's a bunch of things I want to talk about, but I want to put a pin on that because there's a lot of moments in this last legs where, okay, some of the main characters are finally meeting, like one of their parents, and it's like this big moment.
Speaker 1:But, uh, let me put a pin on that. Uh, mira Jane, you were talking about being Aquarius, right? Yeah, let's talk about emotional, right? Let's talk about how Lucy had to sacrifice the Aquarius key to some dyslexic spirit key to fight Marge. Here I was like, yeah, oh, I cried.
Speaker 4:I absolutely was bawling in tears. Aquarius is my favorite, not just because I'm also in Aquarius, but she was just my favorite mother-like figure to Lucy Right.
Speaker 1:Even at the end she was like I can't stand your ass, but I did enjoy my time with you.
Speaker 4:Right and that's such a Honestly, it's such a girl moment, to be honest with you, because you always have that one friend or that one family member or whatever. They just they don't like you but they love you and that's okay. But I think also too in that moment, lucy, it had to happen because lucy had to grow up to stop depending on Aquarius. Like she always depended on her to kind of save her in moments, and Aquarius would just do it out of the nature of the fact that she also loved Lucy's mom.
Speaker 1:But it had to happen. Hold on, can we talk about I know I'm kind of skipping, but it's related to Aquarius though? Can we talk about I know I'm kind of skipping, but it's related to Aquarius though? Can we talk about how Brandish Mama was the holder of the Aquarius Keeper for Lucy? But the whole thing was, oh, the 12 keys had to assemble, but Grammy was far away so she couldn't help Layla.
Speaker 1:And then Grammy felt bad because leila like lost her magic and all that other shit. And then soon as grammy on left with the key and whatnot, uh, well, no, no, he didn't leave with the key, um, she gave it back and um suggested to give to lucy and whatnot. But then soon as grammy left and was like trying to apologize to leila for um not being there, that's when old boy who had the aquarium, not aquarius the aries keys I forgot his name, I know it starts with z, but he saw it real way. At this point I don't care. The guy that would had the equate, uh, aries key who wanted to fuse into a celestial spirit and all that weird shit he stabbed her in the back and was like oh, it's all your fault.
Speaker 1:You should have been there and all that. I was like wow yeah, brandy's mother right yeah, he killed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's why brandy had a grudge back in the out, and well, not back, but in the alvarez arc, or yeah pretty much going from there.
Speaker 2:And one thing is again, it's tying back to everything that we had back at the grand magic games where that came together in pieces and I like that because it all led to that moment where she had to go through time and you know about, like the keys and on its previous holders and the mission that they all kind of had leading up to this moment.
Speaker 2:And so it makes it much more difficult, much more emotional that when Lucy had the break her own, you know her closest spirit, or pretty much her first and only spirit in the beginning, you know to to this, you know pivotal, you know character development type thing, cause you can actually see Lucy growing at that at that moment, let me tell you. Let me tell you what, seeing the celestial spirit king just ripped through that base within literal seconds, well, let me tell you I was doing backflips bro, I had to rewind that because that was like epic, you like, you like zooming through that fucking base for all of like crying and next thing you know, you're like, oh my god, you're like flipping out, punching the air.
Speaker 2:You're like, oh my god, that was like so badass, took it out in one blow I'm so glad you guys were like doing that.
Speaker 4:I was still on the floor crying the same.
Speaker 2:I had the same emotion and I'm pretty sure you guys already seen kai number 8. You guys know what moment I'm talking about where you're pretty much doing backflips was when he took down that bomb and he ended up exposing his secret in front of everybody. Bro, let me tell you, goosebumps. Same emotion when I saw that Spirit King.
Speaker 1:I felt like, okay, that was kind of weird, how, like his secret guy, I suppose, like really early. But then again, like, if you're reading the manga is like, but there's way more to it, to a point to where them knowing his secret is nothing compared to what happens after season one. So y'all stick tight. Uh, you know, hang in there, like let's hope for season two to come right around the corner. But if you're reading the manga, if you know, you know, uh, what else about the tartaros part? Uh, oh, oh, mira jane, getting the glow with the Allegra form and shit. I was digging it.
Speaker 4:I was too. Anything that Mira Jane's done is great. We all know that. Okay, because Satan's soul baby Like she's. So there is nothing about Mira Jane that does not make me feel alive. I just feel like she represents me in a little bubble. Okay, that form, seeing that happen in that moment, was absolutely great and, honestly, we're going to talk about it because I just want to get to the arc so we can talk about it. I'm a hush. Don't, don't talk to me until we get to the last part. Don't talk to me okay, I got you.
Speaker 1:Uh, I'm not trying to undersell tartar's art but at the same time I'm trying to do it to where I want to talk about certain things but at the same time I'm not trying to give away too much. Ultimately, uh, if you did not, if you're one of those folks that kind of drop fairy tale or didn't give fairy tale a chance, then please give it a chance because I'm like it gets better. Trust me, it gets better. Uh, I know y'all like not into that whole lighthearted oh, friendship is magic. But, bro, to be fair, it does get serious and it does get kind of awesome Friendship is magic.
Speaker 4:In this anime Legit, it is magic. Friendship is magic, and it is magic.
Speaker 1:No, that's the thing. Fairytale is a Fast and and furious of anime. At this point they make family and friends such a thing in this show. It's like even though they have this magic and all that, all these different spells and whatnot, it's almost like what fuels their spells more than mana is believing in their friends and shit. It's almost like saying you didn't really beat them with magic, you beat them because you got heart.
Speaker 4:Wait, wait, you can't just glaze over it. Oop, dom Toretto, oop. Dom, that's a good question you know what we need family. Who's saying it? Which character is it not to?
Speaker 2:it's got to be not to not to yeah I mean I want to say not to, but then get a lot of them kind of do it though I think everybody does it when it comes to like fairy tale in general, like anyone who's like pretty much in the guild, going through a tough time, and we're like, listen, I got to do this for my friends, for my people and, to be honest, over time and as you're going through it, the plot armor you can just literally tell it's there, but they go about it in a good way. They make it feel like you're part of them. Your experience as a character development I like how they fully flesh these characters out as the anime goes along. You'll see it like they're. You know like the beginnings and the ends, their struggles, and you actually get to see them actually grow.
Speaker 4:You know to have, you know, that much of an impact when you know time comes for them yeah, they did such a good job with every let me say every, I don't want to say every character, because some characters I feel like could have. Like I feel like Juvia could have got a little bit more. I should have fell in love with Juvia just a little bit more.
Speaker 2:I feel like they dropped the ball on her. You know she had so much potential but they ended up making, you know, like a Google Gaga type of thing for Grey. But I mean, like, when he first introduced her, you know introduced her, she was a total badass. And actually there's some moments where, like they worked hand-in-hand with Grey. What was that? Was it called Soul Unison? No, it was something that when they did the Unison Rain, there you go, like we need more moments like that, like serious Juvia, not like we need more moments like that like serious jubia, not just you know head over heels type of thing, like hey, they missed the mark on that one.
Speaker 1:I mean they can always bring it back, but it's, it was a pretty, it was a pretty big fumble there I feel like I feel like they gave her a flat character arc to where it's like, I mean, she's fine as he is, but at the same time they didn't give her a whole lot to work with, like they didn't give her like this backstory like, oh, like do like nasu and urza and gray and uh, even lucy to her just seem like there's just so much to their back where it's like wait, hold on, like this is like kind of relevant information, like when you're gonna tell us about all this, you know, shit like that.
Speaker 1:But with Juvia it's more like you know, as far as you know, she was part of Ravensdale with Gajio and it's like, yeah, you know she was like gloomy and all that shit. But then Grey kind of talked no juice into her having a crush on him and then following him around ever since and all that ever since. Then it was more like um, juvia getting great to notice and accept uh, her feelings for, uh, him and whatnot. And then it's like, yeah, I kind of agree with y'all where it just kind of felt like she was there, like I mean, it's not like she did nothing but personality wise or character wise, it just keeps like static.
Speaker 2:So it's like yeah, yeah I mean there's, there's a lot of people who went through like a lot of dynamic changes and like to name a few. I mean you have gajio, you have loxus, who you know they're pretty much misunderstood and let me tell you like, in these, in these latest arcs, you see them show up, you know, even harder let me tell you.
Speaker 1:Let me tell you, I'm gonna be honest with you, my very first time watching fairy tale, like god, you, I was cool, god, I mean I know he was. His deal was he was gonna be like this rival for not to, but then eventually he gets defeated and he ends up being a good guy. So, okay, cool, cool, cool with laxus. Laxus kind of worried me because I thought he's gonna pull a daemon spade, you know, like for the catechial hitman reborn fans, if you know, you know I'm gonna pull a daemon spade on him to where I'm like, oh well, y'all not strong enough, let me take over, I'll.
Speaker 1:I'll fairy tales strong, Kind of like on some saber tooth type shit. But then, you know, the whole battle for fairy tales went down. Natsu beat him. He was like alright, I'll chill out. But you know, hey man, you gotta get the fuck up out of here. I mean, we forgive you, but you gotta get the fuck up out of here though. But nah, but listen, like the Lax's redemption art is real, because whenever he comes back it's like, yeah, he means business and I was down for it. Like I kind of liked the implication, Like I don't know if it's like a physical picture yet, but now that I see it I'm just like you know what I kind of can see Lax and Mirror Jane being a couple, I can see it.
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely this guy literally took a lung full of poison from the clan or the guild.
Speaker 1:Oh, I like it at the very end, the last episode where Lucy was doing her epilogue and then Laxus was like oh well, he could hook up with Mirajane, he could hook up with Lissana, he could hook up with Kana, you can hook up with con now, like you know, he's kind of a popular guy now, damn, let's go back to that topic.
Speaker 2:By the way, let's go back. Why wasn't natsu and lasana a thing? Why didn't they?
Speaker 1:I feel like this kid had an option for that nope, nope, there was no I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't hate lucy, I mean I love it, but why not like explore that avenue for a bit, because I feel like they were trying too hard to lean into the uh, that one trope to where, oh, the first girl the main character bumps into. That's the love interest, right there no, I don't even think it was that?
Speaker 4:no, I don't even think it was the fact. I think sometimes it's the whole thing about you gotta let that past go because it's no longer there like you mean like right, like the chemistry between lisana and natu.
Speaker 4:It was more like it sucked, but that time apart, he grew, she grew, they both changed and they just kind of grew apart and she recognized that he had changed immensely. Especially during, like the fairy game. We get that little marriage moment where, like, all the girls get to put on the wedding dress and all the guys get to put on a suit right, and she's standing in the back, like at first. She's thinking like, oh, finally, this is that moment where we're all gonna like clash and we're all gonna this is me and natu's moment. But she sees from the back that like, oh, no, it's he actually. He probably doesn't know it yet, but he likes lucy and that position no longer it's not for me anymore and I think it was the cutest, most honorable way of like saying I'm now the side character, but I'm okay with that. It was cute.
Speaker 1:I honestly I would have loved to see it happen, but they they didn't even seem like they clicked the way they did when they were kids, you know right, it's like it could have gone somewhere in that um while ago, but that's the kind of thing is more like oh well, it could have been, but nah, they've spent too much time apart, especially with the whole edilis um business. So I'm like it kind of like you know, the spark is gone and like I moved on and you know, but I'm glad you're back I mean I also hate kiki.
Speaker 4:I mean maybe there's a little bit of.
Speaker 1:I can, I can, I can sit on that, all right. Y'all I'm pretty much been on the talk through our unless y'all got anything y'all want to add on any moments that y'all want to bring up before we go.
Speaker 4:I don't to go out to anything that might be worth talking about I think I think the tartarus arc while, no, it's not necessarily one of my favorite arcs, it's kind of it, kind of is, but it is I think it's one of the most important arcs because it gives the biggest clue and the biggest hint between Zaref and Hatsu and I think it's, overall, completely missed the first watch through. I think you have to watch this arc like multiple times to be like, oh snap, there's, there's a hint there, and we, kind of you kind of miss it the first watch because it's so emotional at first. But yeah, I think there's, I think it's one of the most important arcs b.
Speaker 1:That's why I'm kind of glad that I binged all of this at once, because, like, if it was one of those things where I watch every single episode as soon as they air, I'm like, okay, I'm kind of piecing everything together, but when you're binging it all at once, like you're like fully engrossed and locked in on the story, like I'm trying to see everything and you're trying to process everything all at once and you realize, wait a minute, wait a minute, hold on. I need a backtrack real quick, because there's just some things that's connecting. I'm like, wait a minute. Speaking of which, uh, unless anybody else got anything else to say, I kind of want to talk about this next arc. I'm good, okay, cool, cool, cool.
Speaker 1:Fairy tale zero, the prequel to where mavis pretty much forms fairy tale, with the guys, uh, yuri pritt and uh warred and at first they were like treasure hunters. And well, the guys were, and maybe it was on tenro island or series island, whatever you want to call it. Like it was, like it went either way. Um, she was on this island and she had the series orb or a tenor orb. Once again, it went either way, and the whole point was that Yuri Preg well, I'm going to call him Hades because we know who he has becomes and Ward Treasure Hunter.
Speaker 1:They won the jewel and May was like no, you can't have it, it belongs to the people and it gets stolen by the blue skull people anyways. So they go out to try to get it back. They of course, you know, get into some um adventures and whatnot, and for the most part, yeah, they get the orb back and, uh, everything's all good, except there were some things where I was like what in the entire fuck? This was the season where it got me singing. It was Zareb all along, because you mean to tell me that Mavis met Zareb and Zerub was like you know what? I'm going to help you all.
Speaker 1:I'm going to teach you all magic. So he taught Mavis, yuri, hades, or the magic that they know. And Zerub also taught Mavis what was it? Fairy heart, where you can cast this spell. But it's going to have A horrible side, this spell, but it's gonna have like a horrible side effect because it's incomplete.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you cast the spell, right, but at the cost of well, first of all, she can no longer physically age, so it doesn't matter if, um, she's like in her 20s, 30s or whatnot, she still looks like a little girl, right. But also it was that curse of contradiction to where the more you love something, the more likely things die. So she had so much love to give. But when it came to shit, like, oh uh, yuri's wife, um, rita, I think it was, gave birth to Makarov, and as soon as she gave birth to Makarov she dies afterwards. But it was like you know, don't really blame Mavis for that, even though she was horrified by it.
Speaker 1:But yeah, that was just kind of things where that was a side effect of using Fairy Heart. But it was just crazy in that sense where essentially a lot of things happened because of, especially with Hades becoming who he was, getting twisted up in dark magic, trying to free Mavis from the lacrimal that she got encased in, and just a whole bunch of shit Like that was really like the main takeaway from that. I was ready to gloss over this on 12 episodes until I found out Wait, hold on. So essentially Xeris is the reason why fairy tale even exists. Oh, on top of there's one more thing that kind of ties into this arc, but it's better said in the alvarez art. But before we even get into all that, y'all got anything to add on to this prequel series.
Speaker 2:Prequel season so I think this was much needed, even though it didn't really carry that raw animation, that action that you know the rest of fairy tale kind of gives you. But it does give you insight into how these things work or the connections down the road, how all these characters have a relationship with each other. Again you get to see the connection how Zaref, you know, kind of created pretty much a little bit of everything at this point and and keep in mind that you know you can see how mavis, you know kind of sees, how you know zarath lives. And I mean this might be a hot take, but I don't particularly think that Zerf was evil. He became evil by choice, because of the curse of contradiction.
Speaker 4:I mean, can we?
Speaker 2:all agree on that. I mean it's. You know we hated this guts, to be honest. But once you found out why, you know what, it's kind of weird because I ended up siding with the villain at this point. We're like you know what it's kind of. It's kind of weird because I ended up siding with the villain at this point. We're like you know what? This guy's got a point.
Speaker 1:You know I can't blame you it was more like how I feel about madara to where I'm like I mean, say what you will about madara, but like his ultimate goal was to have everybody live their own fantasy world and whatnot, and you're like thinking, whoa, that's hard to disagree with, but I just don't like your methods. That was the main thing, was I understand what you're trying to do, but the way you're going about it is problematic yeah, true that was the.
Speaker 1:That was the main thing. He was one of those nuanced villains where I'm like I don't hate you, but I don't agree with your actions.
Speaker 1:I'm gonna be honest at some point I didn't really see Zarev as a villain anymore either it was more like I hate to say this and I know it's not exactly like that, but it it gave me full metal alchemist vibes.
Speaker 1:But except this time it went wrong to where it's like all dude was trying to do is resurrect his brother, and an attempt to do that he created all these, uh, ethereal, these demons and whatnot, and all this was to bring his brother back, but at the cost of cursing himself with immortality and all this other shit, and essentially he was just finding ways to reverse all this to where really it's more like he knows that he shouldn't be alive at this point. Natsu shouldn't be alive at this point. Natsu shouldn't be alive at this point. Oh my god, it gets so fucking weird when we get to the Alvarez art, but whole point being is that a lot of them were from 400 years ago, so it kind of messed with the whole natural order of things to where we're not even supposed to be around for this time period. So I feel it's for the best that we uh, I need to dip out of here because I don't want to be here anymore.
Speaker 1:You know what I'm saying that's just the whole thing he's like. He's kind of like with silver and a whole bunch of people that like they were supposed to be dead but they were still alive somehow and pretty much all they want to do is just move on. But with Zareb, the way he wanted to do it was, yes, he wants to die, but the implications and whatnot, the consequences behind that, to where, for some reason, it's like him dying takes out the whole universe or the whole world for some reason. So that's the main thing. It's like even a decent person would be like, well, I'm going to say you should kill yourself. But there's got to be another way. You can kind of make peace for yourself without you know at can kinda make peace for yourself without you know at least dragging us through this bullshit. You know, I don't know. But uh, not a whole lot to say on the Fairytale Zero art, but like basically the prequel, what went down like before, how Fairytale got its formation honestly, I do want to say this arc was truly needed.
Speaker 4:I agree with my co-podcaster this arc explained so much. And not only that, but it made me love Mavis so much. And not only that, but it made me love Mavis so much, oh yeah. I already loved her, but she just she was perfect. She was absolutely perfect during the whole season.
Speaker 3:I like seeing her strategic side sometimes, like when she would come up with little battle formulas, especially how it also kind of tying back to the Grand Magic games, how she was doing and stuff, even though some stuff didn't go exactly the way she was according it to be. But then again, you know, usually a great strategist knows, if a plan doesn't usually work the first time, then you gotta adapt to it or really just make sure that plan has backup plans and make sure that one has backup plans oh yeah, all right.
Speaker 1:The final season of fairy tale. Uh, at first you know it had the whole avatar art, but basically it was about how Grey was trying to infiltrate this cult, trying to get answers on what's going on with, you know, the book of END and all that and you know, it was like seven episodes like it was like you know, it was alright. Part of like it was like you know it was all right.
Speaker 3:That's all I think part of me uh, I don't know how many other feel about this but part of me kind of wishes gray kept that look when he was, you know, working as a bit of a spy when he was like in that group initial look he had at first. I wish he kept a bit of that look yeah like that, like edgy, dark, Dark Lord type of vibe.
Speaker 4:It did look like an edgelord.
Speaker 1:In a way it kind of felt like how I felt about Sasuke in the tuning exams, like why can't you just keep the black romper? It looked better on him.
Speaker 3:You know it did. I thought the same thing.
Speaker 1:But, um, aside from that, I don't have a whole lot to say on the avatar. I'm like I'm I'm more locked in on the alvarez art because I was like wondering, okay, what is about the alvarez art, the remaining 44 episodes that like I mean of course it's gonna be the last episode, so I'm hoping that's gonna hit home in some degree. But I was like wondering what is about this art that hits home? And man, there was a whole bunch of shit like for starters, like how I was saying in the group chat, how I was like fucking floored when okay, obviously, the similarities of resemblance wasn't lost on anybody when you saw that, uh, irene looked like urza. So we kind of together like are they related somehow?
Speaker 1:And I'm like, okay, turns out irene is urza's mother from 400 years ago. So you're like, wait, wait, hold on, how's that work like? So you mean, tell me that urza's from 40 years ago. But you know, she pretty much had her like in her stomach for like a while. You know, just watch the show like it gets crazy. But the whole thing is here's the wildest part. He's strong, right, but I was not ready for her to tell me that she was the one that essentially helped her people back in like 400 years ago so developed dragon slayer magic. So she's the reason why Nasu, gadiel, wendy and all of them know dragon slayer magic and I'm like this lady right here.
Speaker 4:I love that lady you mean the original queen of Dragons? Absolutely Just saying.
Speaker 1:Kind of gave me Daenerys vibes Like Mother of Dragons.
Speaker 4:It did, but she was better at it. I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1:I mean to be fair. Season 8 of Game of Thrones did.
Speaker 4:It proved my point.
Speaker 1:Thank, you I mean, who knows, like I'm still waiting on George to put out those books and be like, okay, let me see the real uh real outcome of that I mean that's the thing it's like. Is he Like, come on, don't.
Speaker 4:Even if he does, I'm not reading it. I can't do it. I can't do it.
Speaker 1:What else has been going on? We already talked about Brandis a little bit. Wow, she's related to Layla and all that. Oh, I swear to God I'm forgetting something. I swear to God I'm forgetting something.
Speaker 1:But essentially, with the Alvarez art, where you have the Spriggan 12, you have these super powerful people, including God. Serena, who was the former bird, the number one of the wizard saints, decided to join up with the Spriggan 12,. You know, for his reasons. And Essentially what's going on is that the Albrecht Empire is trying to Take over. You know, zero have this plan. You know he's trying to Make Natsu get strong enough so he can kill him and whatnot. You know all that other shit. And strong enough so he can kill him, and whatnot. You know all that other shit.
Speaker 1:And there was also agnologia, who gives a thing like at least with zarif, like he had that uh moderate thing going on to where, like, I don't fully disagree with you, but I just don't like your, um, the way you're going about it and shit. But with agnologia just kind of feel like, okay, you were one of those people from 400 years ago where you were in the village with the dragon. Next thing, you know, uh, dragons gets attacked. Um, the main dragon that you liked turned on you, or so you think, and you decide you know what? Fuck dragons, I'm gonna learn dragon slayer magic, I'm gonna kill all dragons and I'm just gonna kill everybody else eventually, and then I'm gonna be the last dragon and the last person alive. And because I just fucking love destruction, I wanna see blood shit, I just want to hurt people and shit and I'm like see, see you're. You're one of those one-dimensional villains that I don't like, like you're just doing shit, just to do shit. At least with xerope was about something you know yeah, yeah, you have a point.
Speaker 2:I mean, yeah, I, I hate agnologia to his core. And even after like finding out like pretty much his whole backstory, it's like it's you understand an idea?
Speaker 1:and you're like, yeah, fuck this guy it's like he's just evil, just be evil, and I'm like I don't, I'm vibe with it. I wanna like like we just talked about. I'm one of the villains where I'm like I don't, I'm vibe with it. I want to like like we just talked about. I want a villain to where I'm like okay, I can't understand why he is the way that he is. I don't agree with everything he's doing, but I at least understand why he turned that way.
Speaker 1:I feel like there's gotta be a certain level of psychology being applied here, otherwise it's like you're just making villains just to make villains, kind of like having heroes just for the hell of heroes. That's why people didn't like the fact that with superman, he was so quote-unquote, perfect, like I mean like where's this humanity? Like does he have flaws and whatnot. That's why they're trying to make different versions of it in comics or in the movies and whatnot, to where they're trying to make it seem like, oh well, he has more human, like he kind of makes mistakes and whatnot, kind of like they're doing with characters like Goku, in other words, you know, like they can't be too solid, like there's got to be like something going on to where, like, okay, I can kind of understand. I feel the humanity in this person. You know what I mean. So I just don't like one-dimensional characters from a writer's perspective I can agree with that.
Speaker 1:That's true, yeah no, can't argue with that that's all I'm saying, like I'm not trying to complain too much, but that's just the thing. It's like once you it pissed me off to where I'm like I thought it's jeering. It gave me jeering vibes where it just seemed like, okay, you have this bad guy right, you got this one obstacle that they have to um, overcome right. And then at the last minute, you get the backstory right and you're sitting here like this feels like nothing. It feels like you just threw it in at the last minute to make us feel some type of way.
Speaker 1:But even then it's like you didn't feel no type of way yeah, like I'm sorry, like maybe you sprinkled this in a little bit sooner, or like if you gave more ethnology, more personality, I might would have felt something. But it's just a dude that turned into a dragon and just want to destroy everything else. That's what it sits and giggles. So I'm like I feel nothing for this character.
Speaker 4:Okay, I mean honestly, up until this arc, I loved Fairytale. I was down for the ride Absolutely 100%, ten toes down. I was down for the ride, absolutely 100%, ten toes down, couldn't nobody tell me nothing.
Speaker 4:And then Acmalogia, like this arc took everything that was, in my opinion, that made fairy tale so beautiful and destroyed it because, ok, so they get into this huge battle with the Alvarez Empire and you think it's going to be great. You're like, ok, I can't wait, they train, we get a little mini training arc, you, you know, because they realize they can't beat them at first, and it's like, oh, okay, now we got a little training arc and it's like you're getting hyped for the biggest battle of all time, the biggest war, and all of our main characters get dog walked now listen, listen, like okay, uh, first of all, before I forget, it's one of those things where it felt like with Zareb At least, when Zareb got defeated and Mavis Reciprocated her feelings, even though she was like I hate your fucking guts, but I still love you, and then, you know, reciprocate His feelings and all that, and then they disappeared.
Speaker 1:I think they got reincarnated At the last episode, like Lookalike's book, yeah.
Speaker 4:Initially they weren't supposed to, but everyone wanted them to have a happy ending, so the writer Reincarnated them, so that way it could be left up To our imaginations. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm cool with that, I'm fine with that, but my whole thing was with that. It just seems like if you had concluded the whole thing with Atenologia first, then Zaref, the ending would have hit a lot harder oh, yeah, definitely I would have had.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because they make Zaref, being this whole big baddie, the main antagonist behind the scenes. You know, time travel, everything like leading all the way up and you end up killing him.
Speaker 1:But all you needed was love.
Speaker 2:It just made it seem so you know. This kind of reminds me of Shaman. King, if you guys watch the Netflix version, Don't?
Speaker 4:oh god, yeah, you're not wrong.
Speaker 1:We're going to review that, by the way, but hold on listen Before I forget.
Speaker 2:Same energy, that's all I got to say Same energy.
Speaker 1:But before I forget August, fucking August. I felt so bad for August, like, even though he was a bad guy, it was like, damn Like he knew the whole time that his father was like standing right next to him and then his uh zero was like I don't have a son, and that's funny too, because, uh, laurie, kate, uh, the blonde dude that, um, oh yeah, it's called the, uh, the dragon, yeah, like, so he was a ethereal, so he was just a demon. And he was like but, father, why would you do this? Like you're not my son, like you're just some demon. I'm just made up, you know. I mean, I only kept you because you were kind of interesting. So I was like you know what, fuck it, you can have my last name too, you know, kind of like with keys and whatnot and the Tarzans are like. You know, you were just kind of interesting. Other than that, I don't really give a fuck about you it has come full circle.
Speaker 4:We have now met the worst father in fairytale, and it's there pretty much, but it was like the thing is like he did not.
Speaker 1:He had no idea about August, and like that's a funny thing too. You can't say that about zero, because even if there knew august was, um, his son, he would probably treat him the same way as our larkade. So I'm like, yeah, yeah, it wouldn't have mattered, okay okay, that's true.
Speaker 2:Plus, keep in mind that he has a curse of contradiction, so he did end up falling. You know love for his son, then that wouldn't end well.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it's like he had. It's almost like August was just doomed to be fucked, like even in the end where he was dissipating and whatnot, and he saw his mom and was it was like mama, babe. I was like who the fuck is that? I was like how does he know my name? Oh, my God, I mean it's not that funny, but like no, it's kind of funny. I mean, you got to laugh to keep from crying, type of thing.
Speaker 4:He should have been doing that. That because he was definitely crying.
Speaker 1:He should have just started laughing, but no, he let them tears fall, but man like between finding out that Irene is Urza's mama, august was Zara's son and all that. And oh, let me backtrack real quick. Let me backtrack real quick ignio and all the other dragons. Yeah, come to find out they were living inside the dragon slayer the whole time, but they can only come out at one crucial moment to try to take that adnologia. But that failed, unfortunately, and it was like but, daddy, I've been looking for you this whole time. You were here the whole time. I was like bro, I could listen, I hear you.
Speaker 2:I hear you, but I couldn't say anything.
Speaker 1:I couldn't tell you like that's dragging that yeah, that's that that's.
Speaker 3:That don't made me want to throw my phone across the room.
Speaker 1:I'm like they all met their Pretty much their adoptive Parents For the first time In a while and he was like the funny thing was, when you get to Albert's art come to find out they didn't necessarily die. I mean, they did die, but when they thought, when the thought, they died.
Speaker 1:No, that's not what actually happened it's more like y'all got teleported from 400 years. So y'all were in the 400 year time frame and it was like, okay, uh, we're gonna need y'all to like be in a time period to where magic gonna be super strong for y'all to develop better.
Speaker 1:So as soon as they disappeared, the dragon slayer also disappeared from that time period and into the present time period and they're just like, oh well, shit, like what, what's going on? And they didn't question. They even knew about each other from before, but it was like, oh, their memories got scrambled so they don't remember. But you know, they eventually remember each other and all that shit. But it was, like it, just crazy. The world was like it. It got so deep where it's like they knew each other. They were from the 400 years time period and all this other shit going on. Around the same time, irene developed Dragon Slayer, magic and all this other shit. And you're sitting here like what the flying fuck is happening now.
Speaker 4:This season was a lot. It was so much to digest, to unpack, to reconnect to, especially if you weren't watching it, like if you didn't watch it all the way through it. Just it was a lot to unpack and digest. My biggest, like I said, my biggest problem with this arc is like Irene beating up on Mirror Jane Okay, she did not have to do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:She did not, she was torturing her.
Speaker 4:How dare she?
Speaker 2:Toss her like a rag doll. Hey, hey.
Speaker 1:I mean what was worse, what Irene did to Mirror Jane or what Agnologia did to Irene?
Speaker 3:Ah damn, agnologia did to Irene. Ah damn yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, dang, you just made me have a little bit of sympathy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm like hold on.
Speaker 2:I almost feel bad.
Speaker 1:I mean.
Speaker 3:I stomped her out like Jesus Christ.
Speaker 1:I'm like even I was sitting here like hey man, like I know she was a bitch, but that's unnecessary it was, it wasn't dang like she wasn't even a dragon slayer that's completely that's what I'm saying like he was just doing it just for the hell of it.
Speaker 1:Well, you know, aside from you know, being the mother dragon, I know, but it was more like she didn't know that she was gonna turn into was more like she didn't know that she was going to turn into a dragon. She didn't know any of that shit. She was just trying to help.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and then?
Speaker 1:With that abusive husband of hers and shit.
Speaker 4:Her husband was crazy.
Speaker 1:He was fucking like dude.
Speaker 4:He held her hostage for three years and then said oh, just to let you know, it's an execution date plan.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 4:That junk was crazy. You know what?
Speaker 2:That boy was tweaking.
Speaker 3:I bet everybody on the internet was like tweeting on this. All that part wanted to grab that. Everybody on the internet wanted to go through like their or whatever and just get that guy for doing it that, yeah, you know what?
Speaker 1:okay, dang dang, I have a little bit of sympathy see, that's the funny thing about fairy tale it has a whole lot of fan service and I had to Sit down and be like you know what. I didn't think there was a whole lot Of fan service at first, in the first few seasons Of where I'm like okay, a little bit, but it was never to a point To where I'm like. It becomes Clearly obvious up until this Last leg of fairy tales when I'm like most of these women have these big boobs and whatnot and all these ass shots and all these different suggestive poses. When all these very suggestive scenes and clothes getting ripped in like very suggestive scenes, where, like, it doesn't get too far but it gets to a point where I'm like I think the writer, I think Mashima in the production studio, knows exactly what the fuck they're doing with this series. But at the same time it's like you gotta tone it down for kids.
Speaker 3:Oh, come on, dog like, yeah, there are moments where I'm just, there are moments where I kind of cringe a little bit, where it's like, okay, why do they have to do this right now, during the scene?
Speaker 1:like the whole thing with, uh, what's his face? Uh, jackal, and that one girl who was like this stem cell sciences with the bunny ears, like I don't know her name, but that's the best thing to tell her because she was definitely hating on Mira Jane to where I was like, oh you're so beautiful and all that. I fucking hate your guts. I'm gonna make you so fucking ugly so no man will ever like you. I'm like bitch.
Speaker 4:Why was everybody just beating up on me Like I could not understand?
Speaker 1:Like they. Why was everybody just beating up on me? Like I could not understand, like they were treating Mira Jane as that one girl, like why they keep picking on me. I'm like I don't know, they just fucking crazy.
Speaker 4:Maybe this is my bias Okay, it is my bias, but my point is I just feel like Mira Jane didn't get to shine enough During this arc. Okay, I just feel like, out of all the battles, out of all the times for her to shine, I just felt like she just her allegria art.
Speaker 1:Uh, allegria um form, I don't know how to pronounce it, but uh, it kind of felt like super saiyan 3 for me, where it's like, okay, your strongest form ever, but you only used it for like a couple seconds, like, oh man, it's so fucking exhausting, right and I'm like you're supposed to be.
Speaker 4:I'd stand ten toes down behind me, or, jane, don't get me wrong. Okay, um, but I just wanted so much more and I just wish there was so much more here. I do feel, like a lot of the characters that we had seen progress. We didn't get to see that much of them during this arc.
Speaker 4:We didn't get to see them show out, and I kind of just wanted them to have that, those show out moments, because this arc was so it was heavy. I don't know about y'all, but it was heavy for me. This was a lot to digest to just watch through. Everyone fighting, it's just. And then everything that happened with Urza her backstory is crazy. That's your mama and she's trying to kill you. Irene, the original told you.
Speaker 1:Oh, you know what? You know what? You just reminded me of something. It went beyond just killing her, right. It was more like, keep in mind, back when Urza was just a newborn, right. She was like oh, I'm going to take over your body, I'm going to be you, you're going to be me, and all that other shit.
Speaker 1:And then I'm sitting here, like you remind me of those parents where they're trying to live precariously through their children. You know those type of folks where I'm like, oh well, we didn't make things happen in our own lifetime, so we're just going to have kids and we're going to imprint everything that we know onto them so they pretty much do whatever we do. All that other shit when I'm like, bro, like you're treating your own child like a puppet, like a literal puppet, like you don't know, but in this case it was more like literal to where you just take over the body I think they do this a lot in anime to where, like, they try to um, I mean, let's just be real like where it was like Naruto and Jujutsu Kaisen, where they're trying to take over these young kids bodies so they like have a second chance at life, and all that other shit.
Speaker 1:Sasuke Irochimaru type thing yeah, awesome, sukuna type shit, yep, ah, what's what is it? You right, though, I feel like some of the characters feel a little undercooked in comparison, because, yeah, we did get that backstory on Lucy and Grey and Nasuu and urza and a little bit on wendy, even, um, but for the most part, I just feel like a lot of the characters are just there. You know, just, it's just part of the army. You know, they're kind of hoping, like that's the funny thing. You know, it's kind of, with the fortune obi world war and all that shit, like it's really funny too, because I was gonna say this one joke that I was kind of holding on to, uh, but you know how, with naruto, like they're not the first one to do it, but they're the most famous for having that trio dynamics where you know you have the two guys and the chick, and in fairy tale I would say, well, at least the chick is not useless yeah, I'm.
Speaker 3:I'm pretty much got to agree, lucy. She has definitely had better character development, like character development and ability development, just better than yeah she did.
Speaker 1:I mean, I was rocking it. I was rocking with it with the star dress thing, to where I'm like, okay, now she's like um wearing like the different clothing for um, the different celestial spirits, and like she's fighting in there too. I'm like, okay, cool, cool, cool. And then, like, uh, at the end, when they they were fighting like Adenalodia and all that shit, she came in fucking clutch with something that went back from. Well, two things. First of all, fairy spear that's in and of itself self-explanatory, but deep cut, when they were like writing in the book of E&D to try to help um Nasu while he was fighting Xerath, and you're just like thinking, wait a minute.
Speaker 1:Like her writing to her family, all that shit, trying to be a novelist and whatnot. It kind of makes sense as far as plot wise, because you're like thinking, okay, her liking to write, that's like, uh, one of her things that she just likes to do. So I'm okay, that's like one of her hobbies and whatnot. Okay, cool, cool, cool. But it's like, oh, shit, uh, her being a writer and whatnot. That actually kind of helped with the plot.
Speaker 3:I like that yeah, and I think the huge connection that I made like once I once I saw that episode again I made this huge connection that way back about when lucy joined the guild or so, and they went on um, I think it might have been the first quest or second, something like that, but either way it was one of the few beginning I connected with her rewriting the uh book of end with she found that one book.
Speaker 3:They were tasked with destroying the book or something like that, and I think lucy discovered its secrets or had to read it in some type of way. Yeah, and it sort of made me connect that to that scene in a way and it really made me think, see, even if you don't really count on lucy in terms of, like, destructive ability and all this other stuff, like not so, great errors I might have.
Speaker 3:Lucy really comes in clutch when it comes to those like really intellect moments or sometimes those moments like she comes in clutch like that way too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like her magic, you would think, like it's more supportive than anything. But when she really needs to like in clutch, she comes in fucking clutch. Like not just unison raid, but like um, that meteora uh spell that she did that one time. Like that one spell was like where the fuck that came from, I don't even fucking know. Yeah, like, when she really wants to like lucy comes that fucking clutch. Like even with um going back to the tartarus arc but everybody got absorbed into that uh airship, um pluto's grim and for some reason she was the only one who didn't get absorbed by the curse but she did what she could to help everybody um get out of there. So she sacrificed her aquarius key to summon the king and save everybody. So like, yeah, like lucy comes in fucking clutch a lot. So, unlike the naruto dynamic, um, there's not a single useless character here I agree, and I think the other.
Speaker 3:It's a bit off topic, but I think the other anime that does well in terms of when you have those trios about, you know two guys, one girl, whatever I think the other anime that does well is, uh, black clover in my opinion, because uh, oh no, no, listen, listen, listen.
Speaker 1:they call me no Noel because I take no L's Wow.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but Noel, in my opinion she has definitely developed quite well, and I know Black Clover's had its problems. I don't know how far along they're going to animate any of the longer or not, but still she really came far though. It's really impressive.
Speaker 1:Oh, we need to definitely review Black Clover at one point with Professor Tuck and whatnot. But uh, Was there anything else? Because I'm kind of running out of steam now.
Speaker 4:No, I think at least I agree with Pendragon too about, uh, just the character development of lucy, and also I agree with you too, just how her writing tied into to it, because it made her, uh, a reliable narrator yes and oh, of course she won that award at the very last episode.
Speaker 1:I'm like good for her, so I'm like you know she's kind of living her dream and whatnot.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it also showed too that like a guild can just be a stepping stone to your dreams. Yeah, but you're always family and I was like, oh, such a good anime.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I definitely like it. How, like even Lucy had this realization. Like damn, like none of this would have happened if I had never met you in the right place at the right time. Yeah, oh, man, you know what? With that being said, that's pretty much all we had to say on that way. I know there was like a whole lot more to these last arcs than that, but you know what? I'm just not gonna take away too much from y'all. I would just say y'all highly recommend y'all go ahead and watch fairy tale. Go ahead and watch it. Before you get to the 100 years quest and I'm hearing that it's doing pretty good.
Speaker 1:There was like some scenes from the 100 year quest that made me convinced that. You know what. I'm gonna go back into, uh, fairy tale, because I'm probably gonna bring it up again, um, in case I forget this time. But, um, I'm gonna just bring it up this one time. Like there was one scene I Like there was this one scene. I forgot who it was like. I think it was Brandon, I think it was like somebody, but for some reason, uh Urza was acting like really scared of this one lady. And then, like she was like please don't kill me and then next thing, you know like, oh this lady's, like slapping her on the ass and sitting on her, I'm like what the hell is happening.
Speaker 3:Oh, I know, I know what you're referring to.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Who is that again? Um, I can't exactly remember her name, but I know she was also. She's one of those dragon eaters I want to say.
Speaker 1:Oh, one of the dragon eaters. Okay, that's why I didn't recognize it right away, because I'm like thinking like who the hell is this like?
Speaker 1:okay, I guess we'll talk about it when we get there. But like I saw that one scene between that and when they went to the actor's guild where everybody looked just like fairy tale but like not like edelweiss, but you know, like they just happened, happen look-a-like. And like that one part where uh the lucy and uh all right on taco, I see you gotta go. Uh, you go ahead and take it easy and thank you for being on the show.
Speaker 2:Uh, thanks guys, it was not, it was fun. Yeah, be posted, I'll, I'll, uh, I'll see you guys then. Yeah, man, you take it easy, all right, bye-bye.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and wrap it up real quick. Now, I forgot their names too, but it was like something different, the whole point being that the Lucy and the Natsu lookalike was getting into it, because the Natsu lookalike was like getting mad about the work that he's been getting, and then the Lucy look-alike was being all apologetic and the Natsu look-alike pulled her to the side, like, come in here, I'm going to teach you a lesson. And then the actual Lucy went in there and said what the hell is going on. I'm like you know what? I shouldn't have went in there. I was like whoa, whoa, you know what? I need to watch this now because what the hell?
Speaker 1:But yeah, that was about it. Mirror Jane, I do thank you for joining me for this last one of the Fairytale Stream Review and I do thank our new cast make hero pinch bagging for joining us for the first time on the zone podcast. Real good to have you, man, it was fun with.
Speaker 1:That being said, we're gonna go ahead and close this one out. The next time we're gonna be talking about fairy tale, we're probably gonna be with the 100 year quest. I might talk about the movies too, maybe not, I don't know. I mean, the movies are okay, but like, yeah, you know I was more locked in on the series. But uh, we're gonna be working on more reviews. Like we're gonna talk about raid master and eden zero at some point. And I'm hearing about this new anime project called farmagia. Like it's getting like fairy tale vibes. All right, I mean, it's from kuro mashima too, but like people are saying, oh, it already looks like it's gonna play out like fairy tale, but I don't know, we'll see. But until then, stay nerdy, my friends, and remember that great things are coming. Have yourself a good good morning, good afternoon and good night and, above all else, take it easy.
Speaker 1:Nerd so you.
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