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Arcane (Season 2): A Bittersweet Tale of Two Sisters
Join us for an exhilarating exploration of Arcane Season Two, where we, Jet Black Xtreme, Kokugatsu and Playboi, take you on a journey through the mesmerizing world of animation and storytelling. With a jaw-dropping budget of $250 million, this season promises to be nothing short of visually spectacular. We reminisce about the impact of League of Legends on the gaming community and share our excitement for Riot Games’ dedication to crafting an unforgettable series. Our discussion delves into the psychological intricacies of characters like Jinx, enriched by a phenomenal soundtrack that perfectly complements the narrative.
Dive into the intense dynamics between Isha and Jinx, as we analyze their complex relationship and pivotal character moments. Witness the transformation of Vander into the menacing Warwick, a development that has both show and game fans buzzing with theories. We unpack how Arcane brilliantly stands as its own adaptation, separate from the original League of Legends universe, while still weaving in subtle nods to the game's lore. With each chapter of our episode, we dissect the rich tapestry of storytelling, the magical dichotomy of Arcane magic versus Hextech, and the breathtaking character design that breathes life into this animated marvel.
As we reflect on Arcane Season Two's critical acclaim, we celebrate its storytelling prowess and the joy of rewatching such a richly crafted narrative. From unpredictable plot twists to thrilling battle sequences reminiscent of iconic films, this series captures the essence of what makes a show truly exceptional. We also touch on potential future developments, expressing our anticipation for unexplored characters and plotlines. With humor and enthusiasm, we encourage listeners to immerse themselves in this must-watch series and form their own opinions on its captivating journey.
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what's good nerds, welcome back to the zone podcast, the show where we like to talk about high budget animations based on video games that's worth every goddamn penny. I'm your host, jet black extreme, and joining me today is playboy and our fancy club, president kogagasu, for a review on arcane season two. Without further ado, let's jump zone in on this right here what can I say about arcane?
Speaker 1:well, what can I say about arcane as a whole? It's a five-star animation. I mean the plot, the, the way the visuals really captures some frames like an artistic masterpiece, and it also captures the psychological state of certain characters like Jinx. The soundtrack is a fucking banger. My favorite song so far is Sucker. You know the one that goes Get the fuck out of my head, you poor sucker.
Speaker 1:That one, uh, and a whole bunch of it, was worth 250 million dollars to make and people are saying, oh dang, that's a little too much money. I'm like, whoa, hold the fuck on. First of all, if you want really good animation, that shit costs money. Like I dare anybody to complain about how good I mean how bad that animation was because, like the fight, choreography and everything was fucking amazing and like, yeah, like people be thinking like, oh well, shouldn't good animation cost left? I'm like, uh, I would argue that the more money being put into the animation, the more likely it will turn out really good. I mean, look at the spider verse movies.
Speaker 1:Like very good animation took years to. In fact, it took six years to make this first season of arcane. So there you go. So I'm like you gotta have more appreciation for these things.
Speaker 1:But like I think some folks are looking at these sorts of things from a fan perspective but not from a productive, um perspective. You know, like you're not one the artist working on this shit, you're not one the writers or the directors while working this thing out, but like not to judge too much, but I'm just saying it's like you gotta look at it from different angles to be like okay and to be fair, if I were in the industry I would understand why it took that much money to make this shit and it took that much time to make this shit. You know, with video games where, yeah, some video games gonna take a long time to get out there, but when they're out there and people like critically acclaiming and all that, then yeah, like sometimes these things take money and time to make and, like I said, it is worth every god damn penny. But enough from me for now. Let's start this up with Playboy. How you feeling about the second season of Arcane?
Speaker 2:Man, just to piggyback off the things you said. You've not been playing the game since you feel me. Like early season.
Speaker 1:Look, look, look. This season almost made me go back to League of Legends Almost.
Speaker 2:As soon as we're done. I'm hopping on WoW Rift. I'll be updated with everything. I'll check how much money I got, check my levels. Yeah, it's hard to fucking play. I haven't played in a while.
Speaker 1:I'm just super rough. Then I already know for a fact that I'm going to be playing other games, like it's best to get ready for the summer games that we're going to have going in July 2025, where we're going to be playing a whole bunch of games with some people. I'm going to try to see if we can get some prizes and whatnot going for that. You know, try to make it a little fun thing for the community. But yeah, I'm going to be playing so many different games that I'm just thinking I don't know if I'm going to get into it, not like I used to, where, like I'm not going to go back to those times where I would spend like the whole fucking day playing League of Legends, like nah, like I need to go touch grass. Like, like, nah, like I need to go touch grass, like I need to do something else.
Speaker 2:You know, we used to play that shit day in and day out, irvin, like that's different. We used to play nothing else but League. Though you feel me Like maybe something else, but yeah, you know me, you, jared John, we wake up playing that shit. John John was even John John. Look, john John started playing that shit, bro. Jon Jon was even Jon Jon. Look, jon Jon started playing that shit, bro, that shit was contagious, dude. League of Legends was fucking.
Speaker 2:Just Before Fortnite, league of Legends was really one of the like number one games in the world. Bro, epic, they definitely did their shit. And I remember, bro, I remember being in the comics watching some of the character spotlights, some of the character release trailers Like, if I'm not mistaken, draven katarina. They're just some trailers for some characters and some just like regular animation, to the point where we were like man, they should make a series, they should make a movie. And the crazy part about it. They were probably working on it then because if you go back and watch them now, the animation arcane is definitely way better. Granted, it was over 10 years ago, but like that's just like goes to show it was definitely worth it. The money they made from the games, tournaments the teams like all put into this. It was definitely worth 250 mil. I'm pretty sure that was nothing to him. Faker probably makes that money.
Speaker 1:I mean it is Riot Games, you know, like all that money they got from skins and what not. I'm not surprised it took them 250 million for that, because I'm like it's Riot Games, though I feel like they can afford that give it back to your fans.
Speaker 2:We've been asking for this shit for years, bro, and they delivered.
Speaker 1:That's all I mean that's what I want to do. Like I want to be kind of like riot games, where I want to develop video games and whatnot, but eventually it's going to be adapted into a tv series, maybe movies and other shit like that and like you know, if it gets there, it'll get there. But yeah, that's like the kind of route that I want to do with my stories. That's why I say I call them stories. I like, oh, they're books or they're video game ideas.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, they're just stories, because they can take any form. It's like, as long as I got the story down, I'm like, okay, I can make this into a video game, I can make this into a movie, I can make this into a movie series, I can make this into a TV series, I can make it into a comic book series. It can be like in any format, as long as the story is good. You know what I'm saying. But speaking of which I'm glad you mentioned about theme songs and whatnot, because Jinx's you remember when Jinx was like brand new to League and she came out with that banger theme song. You know what a journey.
Speaker 1:Come and play that shit, I'm like oh man like yeah, I fuck with that shit that was so fucking good and looking back it gave me some perspective to where I'm like man. Listen, when she was first introduced I just thought that jinx was like this, like wild card lunatic. But once you watch arcane it's like damn, like. I kind of see the humanity in her now, like especially all the shit they've gone through. And I know we didn't even talk about Arcane Season 2, but we just kind of going down memory lane as far as playing the game you know. Ah, but was that all you had? Playboy?
Speaker 1:oh yeah, for the most part alright, so for real this time, let's focus up on the series, and who else to lead us into it is Kokugatsu. How you feeling about Arcane Season 2?
Speaker 3:man, you know I love this show. You know I loved it. The first one was like fantastic, absolutely just adored it from beginning to end, like no questions about that whatsoever. Um, if I could just play back to y'all real quick right now. Uh, based on their third quarter uh report, right, uh platforms has a net worth of 4.08 billion dollars um, they just they just racked in 84.8 million dollars. Uh, just this past quarter, so not, that's not the year, that's just this past quarter yeah so, yeah, uh, pretty much.
Speaker 3:They made their money back for this this season 12 before the end of the year, so there's no question about it. Um, just want to go ahead and make sure. I just mentioned that anyway. Um, no, absolutely love the show like it's fantastic. I I'm not gonna lie lie to you. I cried tears on Wednesday because I was like I have to wait for these last three episodes. I was like, no, give me the episodes now. And then, once I got the episodes, I was like, oh, my goodness, this is so sad.
Speaker 1:Listen, like I already told y'all in the group chat, to where, okay, they're going to drop at three o'clock, uh in the morning, eastern time, and shit is not like okay, I got at least a good three to four hours before work as soon as I woke up. I gotta watch those last three episodes pretty much, bro.
Speaker 3:You gotta figure this out. Like, what is going on? Please let me know. What is it like? I need to see what's happening next. And then, because it just ended on such a cliffhanger, he was just like no, don't leave me here, I need to know what's happening next. Come on, oh man like for real like.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about each two real quick. Uh, this little girl was a ride or die from day one. As soon as jing saved her from uh smeeches, um people I think it was um hassling her and whatnot. And then, as soon as jing saved her, and like you know my calling card and all that shit, then isa just uh started following her around, dyed her hair blue and everything, try to keep her safe and whatnot. And uh, I'm trying to think who was it that said it? Uh, oh, this reminds me, shout out to mothra kaiju, our friend in the inner circle. Uh, she's doing art commissions, cosplays and whatnot.
Speaker 1:I was talking to her and she was the one that brought it up to where, uh, her name, isha. Uh is a translation for um protector or protection, whatnot. So it makes sense for isha to be so protective of jing, even in that part where uh vi was fighting jings and vi was about to deliver the final blow, but Ishii was shielding her from with the gun and all that, and Caitlyn was about to um shoot Jinx, even with Ishii in the way, and then Vi was trying to stop uh Caitlyn from trying to shoot Jinx at the risk of shooting the girl and you know the whole bullshit that happened in that moment. But aside from that, it's like, okay, they were like going up against those soldiers and each had this plan like okay, let me take the pistol and I'm gonna shoot it up in the air, like overload the pistol and I'm gonna, um, pretty much, sacrifice herself just so that, um, jinx and the others can get away. And I'm like, damn, what a hell of a way to go.
Speaker 3:She went out the way that she wanted to, like I said, protect her.
Speaker 3:I mean, that's just how it works.
Speaker 3:But yeah, no, isha absolutely was a fantastic character.
Speaker 3:Honestly, I was nervous when they introduced her because I was unsure of what was supposed to happen per se, and then, like you know, it all kind of came together at that point because it's like, oh okay, so she's going to be the one that's going to really kind of help jinx calm it down, because jinx just needs someone like and jinx admitted and I love that this story development for her too but she admitted the fact that she was always being told what to do because she knew she was wild and this is the first time that now she has to be the one to control them, not just herself, but somebody else and it completely changed her own stuff.
Speaker 3:She was at that point that she's like you know, I'm going to completely remove myself, like entirely, I'm dead, jinx is dead, jinx is not coming back, type of thing, and she was really trying to completely remove herself from all of it because she's like I have too much more that I have to deal with. Right now. I have someone that I care about, someone that actually is important to me Enough to the point where I'm now going to just finally back down and back away Until Aisha gets kidnapped.
Speaker 1:That's crazy, because that was her whole arc throughout the season when she was just trying to walk away from the shit, especially when she finally got arrested and she had that vision of silco and essentially the vision tried to, uh, you know, advise her that.
Speaker 1:Oh well, you know, um, this whole thing, killing is a cycle and whatnot, and the only way to break the cycle is to have the uh will to walk away. And she was gonna bubble herself until echo stepped in, um, but the whole thing was that, even up into the end, where it was the whole thing between vi jings and uh vander, who we find out is warwick, uh, I mean, by the way, can I just say that, even though it was like slightly hinted at in season one, it was like hold on, like is, is he gonna be who? I think it is, but how, though? But then, you know, season two, I like make it more obvious how he vander he became, eventually becomes warwick. And I'm sitting here like you know what playboy, if I ever go back to league of legends, it would never be the same again, because it'll be like imagine playing up against a team that has by jinks and warwick on the same team. I'm sitting here like I know y'all.
Speaker 2:I can tell y'all watch arcane yeah, yeah, definitely gonna start role playing yeah, uh, but like that was just so crazy.
Speaker 1:Um, the whole thing with jinx, though, hold on, uh, I like how I'm not gonna lie, I did watch some youtube videos and some commenters uh shed light on what happened in the ending and I'm like you know what. That makes a lot of sense and I'm kind of glad you said that, because I was thinking like no fucking way, no fucking way. But then he's like okay, okay, the hints and all that, okay, I got you. So check this out. I thought jinx died right, but no, first of all, some people were saying that if you pay attention to the explosion close enough, there was like a streak of a little bit just to show that she kind of escaped. Uh, but that was like barely noticeable for me. So, trust me, I went back and watched it over and over. I couldn't tell.
Speaker 1:But two other hints that made it very more obvious. First of all, when Kaylin was going back into her quarters looking at the schematics for the heads, gates and whatnot, and she kind of zoomed in on the air ducts and she kind of slightly smiled a little bit, thinking like, oh, maybe Jinx might have slipped out of there. And then you know how, uh, jinx always wanted to ride one of those um, airship things, like some people call it zeppelin, but it's something else. Like it's not that it started with a d? Um, I'm trying to think, uh, dirigible, yeah, uh, one of those things. Uh, she always wanted to ride in those right. And then the very end, the very last scene, was one that's riding on flying off into the distance. You have that in title card. That's like dink style.
Speaker 1:So I'm thinking like, okay, I can't believe she survived, because no fucking way she died in the events of this show, because otherwise her being part of the summoner's r in the game, I don't know. But then again, and Bessa is a playable character and she died in arcane, so I'm like I don't know. That's what made me confused at first. But then it was those two hints mainly to where I'm like, okay, I can believe she like snuck out. And then basically she wanted to make sure that even Vi thought that she was dead, so that way she can be like done. I'm like I am so fucking done, consider me dead, I am out. Caitlyn is the only one who probably know for sure.
Speaker 3:But once again it was like a wink, wink, nudge, nudge to the audience I will say um, they actually mentioned back in season one that this is not canon to the video games, it's just an adaptation. So similar to how, like uh, harmading, harmadinger and echo went to a different reality. In a sense, the game takes place in a different reality than the show yeah, you know what.
Speaker 1:That makes even more sense. Like I was thinking I'll go on one or two ways. Like I was thinking either the show is a retcon to the lore or this more like an alternate retelling or whatnot. Like it could have gone either way. Like that's why I was so confused about it.
Speaker 2:Like hold on I mean league of legends as a game is a different concept from what they're going through. Like they don't become legends like the league until after, basically everything in arcane, like jinx becomes what she is in league of legends through arcane. So yeah, they're not directly connected, you feel me so, but it's like kind of like. Especially, we won't know until, like like the other factions are introduced, like once Nasus start invading Ionia and, fucking, you feel me, demacia gets more involved, type shit, it still won't even be directly. Like all they're doing is making things like related to the lore behind the characters.
Speaker 2:Like one thing I didn't know was Jinx and Vi being related characters. Like one thing I didn't know was james and vi being related, but I did know for a fact that these characters were these characters just by looking at them. You know what I'm saying. Like I can't tell which characters were. Who, like victor jay's, um, yeah, like, yeah, yeah, you feel me. All of them echo. So I had a big ass smile on my face when I seen them. Like okay, okay. So I'm not gonna lie. To this day, even since season one, I've been waiting for warwick. I don't even know why, because I don't even play the mother, but I'm seeing wolves, I'm seeing all this other shit.
Speaker 1:I guess you can say it's like that season one, season two, nostalgia type, because you remember when we were like playing back in day, when it was like brand new and world was like one of the only champions to play. So I'm like, okay, I can't understand if you played at some like back in the early stages of league of legends, but outside of that is like there's so many champions now like a lot of them do.
Speaker 2:I still haven't played half the new ones.
Speaker 1:Like you, barely can think of the ones and I still remember we were doing the league of legends um review and I'm like damn dog. I want to say like I haven't touched like 40 of the roster, like 60 of them. Okay, I, I'm at least familiar with y'all, but a good quarter y'all. I'm like y'all completely new to me.
Speaker 3:But um, okay, I will say um, one of the other things into it that, aside from the fact we love the characters into it, but also, um, picking back off you playboy, age wise as well too, the entire first season, the second season, jinx is significantly younger than the jinx in the game. Like the jinx in the game is very clearly an adult, like very clearly she is like 20 something, versus jinx here. By the time this whole story takes place, jinx and vi, if I'm correct, they're still like younger than eight, younger than 18, per se. So it's like so yeah, I mean, still based into that one too. I absolutely love the music. Like you said, jb, the music was fantastic, definitely got me into it, and every single time I would just be vibing into the songs Because the songs just like season one, they fit perfectly to whatever the situation may be.
Speaker 3:So you sucked, sucked. I like the I'm trying to remember exactly how the song goes because it's like it was a song. I like I know it was on episode two. It was the song that happened like right before the opening credits and it was like just intense and I just it fit the vibe so perfect because it was like what was about to happen? What is going on with Jinx? What's about to do this?
Speaker 1:The one that went like Just let me go Go. They did it in the season finale too, so that's how I know I remember that one.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, I just absolutely adored it. It fit so perfect.
Speaker 1:You're just all in the feels, like just straight up in the feels of it I mean honestly I'd say arcane, in a sense, was like very punk rock in a sense, where they only needed two seasons to tell a story to, where it's like they only like two seasons and outside of that it's like. Mainly it was like a visual and musical spectacle. True true.
Speaker 3:And then, as far as about the animation, no, you cannot pay less for animation. These people spend a long time doing animation. I have tried it myself and it takes a long, long time, bro, like for real. This is a long time. People having to be away from their families to do this, because a lot of these places you need to do the animation. There's not a working-home job. You got to be at the office like doing this.
Speaker 1:It may be making it all again wrap at the war.
Speaker 3:No, it's just like it's a normal, like 9 to 5, but didn't think about like your entire day is. You're like right there in front of the computer animating the stuff. Like keep in mind on two days, like even you had mentioned, that scene was. It was a drawn hand, drawn in charcoal, with caitlin when her mom had died, and then the scene with uh, vi and vi going by and uh, um, jinx's memories I want to say powder, but, um, going through the memories and stuff was in watercolor and you could tell that's not just simple animation, that was. Each picture looked like it was specifically painted, specifically drawn, like every single thing was important and so you could clearly see that.
Speaker 3:And it's like, yeah, this takes time, that takes a lot of money, because just doing some of those scenes like sometimes for some animations like I'm going to just jump back really quick scenes like sometime for some animations like I'm gonna just jump back really quick, incredibles, that one time we got the teaser for a vi, uh, for a violet this is her name, is also violet too. So when violet was meeting the boy that we find out that scene is actually at the end of the movie. They showed that scene as a teaser for incredibles before before the first incredibles movie, before it came out and they actually had to talk about it. They said that specific scene where Violet was talking to this boy. It said you're a Violet right? Yep, that's me type thing. That specific scene took 20 hours to make sure they got it right. The hair flip all of that. So imagine that's multiple days of work to do that one scene and we're talking about eight one hour episodes. It takes time and it takes money to get that done.
Speaker 1:Don't cheapen that yeah, I just think it's like kind of crazy, how like I mean I already griped on this many times but like once again, this is like a perfect example of how people underestimate how amazing animated works can be, but they just don't give it a chance because, oh, they just think animation's for kids. And I'm like, uh, no, like I dare you to sit your kids down to watch you know how scarred my kids would be watching this bro like no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1:Like I thought it was for kids like the sex scenes.
Speaker 3:The sex scenes between vi and clyn alone are just like good lord.
Speaker 1:They went intense on this, nah, but this is perfectly fine because animation so kids can watch it, right? Nah, see, there you go. Stop playing with animation like that. It gets adult, it gets mature, it's true.
Speaker 3:It really does Not. Every cartoon you see is for kids. That's why netflix and amazon has things where they say adult cartoons is very specific. If you know enough to say you're not gonna let your kids watch, uh, the simpsons or family guy, then obviously you should know not every cartoon is for kids. Please, please, don't go around thinking that, oh, everything is fine for kids. No, it is not.
Speaker 1:I mean think about it like this I mean, even though it's a hood classic. You know, we wasn't supposed to be watching the boondocks as early as we did, right?
Speaker 3:Bruh, who you telling? I got in trouble with my mom when she found out that I watched boondocks.
Speaker 2:bruh, Like for real, I was in middle school.
Speaker 3:We was in middle school and I think my brother had, uh, my brother. So, for those of y'all that don't know, my mom's a pastor, okay so. And my mom loves Tyler Perry, I'm gonna be, I'm gonna put in this, okay so understand how did she feel about that one episode? Exactly that's the thing. That's the very first boondocks episode my mom ever saw my brother literally went and got paused and he had it like that's a.
Speaker 3:That's a very bad impression, though that's gonna leave a very bad impression that is the very first boondocks episode that she ever watched was the one specifically designed to go against tyler perry and the one where tyler perry got so angry that he literally filed a whole lawsuit about it to get that taken off the air because he didn't want nobody seeing it vinnie fight the original cast for that too, like whoever got involved in that.
Speaker 1:Oh no, I think you want to go ahead and be on that episode. Why don't you get your ass out of my studio?
Speaker 3:I don't think it was really any anybody that was actually with him, that was actually involved In it, so I think it was just like all just specific people. But yeah, no, like he went Hard on that, he was so angry About that episode, bro, I was like nah man, we're not doing this.
Speaker 1:So Do you denounce everything, including Friday? I'm like not Friday.
Speaker 2:Including.
Speaker 1:Friday. I'm like not Friday, I'm like including Friday. I'm like, really, I'm like I don't understand. No, that's really ironic because I still to this day. I think it's kind of ironic because you know John Witherspoon being granddad in the Boondocks and you know also being, you know, mr Jones in the boondocks and you know also being all you know Mr Jones, and the Friday moves. So I'm like that feels weird making him say that it was insane.
Speaker 3:Honestly, I'm pretty sure he laughed his butt off at that. Anyway, I'm really gonna say this. He's like, yeah, it's like Ice Cube gonna laugh at this one. And, funny enough, ice cube was actually pretty fine with it. There was no issues with it, with whatsoever, so that was pretty cool, oh man. But no, um, like everything just fits so perfect for this show, and I know I say that, but I'm telling you, if y'all haven't seen it, watch it please, please, watch it. If you saw some of these, like, I'm just curious to see if it's worth my watch. Yes, right here, I'm telling you it's worth the watch, absolutely worth the watch, but most definitely, um, but for reals, though, I I want to go ahead and talk about that, like I, I don't know, are we going in order or we just going to talk about what we like about it?
Speaker 1:um whatever, whatever you know.
Speaker 3:I want to talk about the alternate reality.
Speaker 1:None of that three-hour bullshit from last night okay.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, no, no. I have stuff I have to say, but I'm keeping it very simple. Okay, I love different things about it, but I want to talk about the alternate reality. The alternate reality messed me up for two main reasons Understanding that, had Hextech's never been built, because I love the episode it's the second to last episode we finally get a good understanding of what is going on with the arcane. So because of that episode, I will I now will have this added to my list. So, jb, you've already talked to me about this before, but I am working on a whole thing specifically for all of the magic in various different video games, movies, anime, stuff like that. I'm working on categorizing all of them into this. So I now have Arcane and I'll just go ahead and say it Arcane is nature magic.
Speaker 3:It is literally the magic of the elements. It's based upon its natural causes. It is literally the magic of the elements. It's based upon its natural causes. And the reason that it does not get along with Hextech is because Hextech goes against the natural order of things. For example, I want water to flow, so I call upon the water, nature for water to flow properly, versus Hextech says I want water to flow. I'm going to take this earth rock and I'm going to make water come out of it.
Speaker 3:It completely goes against the normal laws of nature. It reduces and changes everything, which is also why it was such a big thing to Heimerdinger as well, too. Because, Heimerdinger the reason that he lives for so long is because he is a product of the arcane itself. He's a magical creature that has the ability to speak human language, even though he looks exactly like All the other magical creatures out there. That's what his biggest difference is he's able to speak and understand the human language, but other than that, he's part of nature. He's a part of those creatures, period. So it's like Understanding that big difference between the fact that the arcane hates hextech. It absolutely hates it because it's literally destroying what it is entirely. It's constantly causing things to go arrive on what it's supposed to. So we wound up getting a chance to see the alternate time, where Hextech was never made. Things were able to become peaceful. It was actually able to become a utopia.
Speaker 1:It was episode 7, not episode 8.
Speaker 3:My bad, okay, my bad, yeah, yeah. So third from the last, oh man, but it's just like it's that intense, that is like, okay, that's how crazy hextech was. And then hextech was fully allowed to realize itself and because victor finally allowed himself to be fully turned into what it is that hex is supposed supposed to be, I literally just nicknamed him Hex. God, victor, that's what I just nicknamed him.
Speaker 1:Can I just say that I like the design for Victor by the way in this one. Like the way he's mainly the face area to where it's like okay, kind of like his old face kind of split and it's like his new face kind of like emerging from. I like the detail. You know, let's talk about the detailing in the art with arcane because, like bro, like they really know how to not, you know, like it feels like they put a lot of thought into every detail. Hell, I know I'm sidetracking, but let's talk about Mel. Real quick, like with Mel, just design alone. Like, listen, y'all need to hold me bad because her design got me acting up Right, dude.
Speaker 3:Mel was thick as hell, bro. Like all of a sudden I'm sitting here like did they make it?
Speaker 1:With the gold on her thighs, I'm like, oh man.
Speaker 3:You have been sending these. You have been sending these little designs, these like the 3D prints and stuff into the group. So you have to send those into the group and everything. By what Peach Figure I think it was. Yeah, and it's shown up. But I was sitting here like, oh, I said hold up. I said um, I said I guess Old person wanted to make, uh, wanted to make Mel a little bit thicker. I'm like I don't remember Mel being that thick in season one. Shown Up come getting a chance To show Mel having that whole Segment just to herself and I was. I had to look and I went back To check in season one and god damn it, they Shown Up did they gave her bigger hips In season two.
Speaker 1:Checking season one and god damn it.
Speaker 3:They showed up, did. They gave her bigger hips, emphasized her walk once who I was like. Wait a second.
Speaker 1:Not a playable character in League of Legends. Honestly, after at three, I'm convinced that she's going to be playable. She should be.
Speaker 3:I need her and I need Ambrose.
Speaker 1:I need her. You know what? Real quick, can I just say I thought it was kind of funny with the whole thing with Maddie, right, maddie, she was supposed to be this assistant to Caitlyn and like, oh well, vi, I heard so much about you.
Speaker 1:Hold on, wait a minute, wait a minute, Wait a minute, wait a minute, and then, like you know, vi breaks up with Caitlyn because you know, caitlyn almost shot a kid and you know Vi became this uh, I call it depressive pit fighter, while caitlyn became commander-in-chief under mvessa's endorsement which turned out to be this whole thing to where she's trying to put uh, piltover and zon against each other, for nazis to like kind of dominate over bohem. You know this whole rigmarole Type shit, but that's without a point. The whole thing was that Dang, I kind of Lost my train of thought. Um, the whole thing with Maddie. The whole thing Was she was going to be having this like Lesbian relationship with Kaylin in the meantime. But word turns out that Maddie was an agent of M-Bessa and betrayed Kate.
Speaker 1:And as soon as she was about to execute Kate, I like how Mel showed up and was like okay, I'm going to use this barrier spell to kind of bounce it up and use kind of like this barrier to like do it around Maddie to where the bullet is like bouncing around until it hit her in the skull, because I was going to feel bad for Maddie because you know, vi did kind of cook her. You know, with Kaylin, you know the sex scene in the jail cell Like I was going to feel bad for Maddie. Until I saw that scene I was like, nah, you know, I don't feel bad for you anymore. And then, as soon as you saw that scene with the bull, I'm like, ok, now it's kind of funny.
Speaker 3:Like I said, fuck that traitress-ass bitch. That's fucked up, man, how you do that. And I know obviously, like we talked about it.
Speaker 1:Oh well, you know, and Beth said it herself like don't get, you know, too mixed up with professional. You know, man, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:It's one of those things, like you know, we see this happen in spy movies all the time where all of a sudden, like you know, james Bond's become very famous for this and if all the time this has happened, where he fucks all these girls but he's still nervous because sometimes them girls are double agents and he's like I may have fucked you real nice and good, but it don't mean that you ain't gonna pull out a gun and try to kill me. Yo, this shit happened to Rush Hour and so the same thing happened. When that happened to K. I was like this is fucked up.
Speaker 1:You know what? Crazy enough Even though we're gonna talk about this in February. This also reminds me of Harlem Nights, where, uh, you know, dominic LaRue did the same thing to Quick yeah.
Speaker 3:And it'd be one of those things. It'd be like oh, you know, it's like we seem like we in a relationship and shit man, fuck that. You still question things, bro. You still question everything. You don't know, you never know. You probably still got something behind your back and I was like dang, this made me feel bad. I was like dang, this made me have good, some trust issues with these characters. Now I will say this the last two episodes reminded me so much of fucking Endgame, because characters was just dropping left and right Like after.
Speaker 3:I was like damn who they finna kill next. And that's when Maddie died. I was like it's about fucking time that bitch died. I was so mad. I'm like how dare you? It was like ugh, it was fun while it lasted. You finna shoot me in the head, the same head that ate your pussy. Good, you ready for the bitch.
Speaker 1:Whoa, whoa, I'm sorry, whoa.
Speaker 3:Look, don't act like Maddie. Didn't try to convince her to come back in the bed, said, like you know it was nice, you can come on back, type thing. Nah, caitlyn did her shit. How dare you? No, I'm just sorry, nah, but for real though, it's one of those things like you, still just be careful because, like you, never, like you don't know people till you really get to know them, and so it's like you always got to be cautious and Ambrose was very clear about that when she talked to her daughter about it.
Speaker 3:Like you, really, you let your guard down. You think too much peacefully all the time.
Speaker 1:And the thing about this is that, like, because mel has like she shouldn't know her mom so much, she's like she always has something in place, like there's always something in place when it comes down to, and it was like it was just intense, but them fight scenes, like you said, look, mel and caitlin versus ambrose was intense as hell because short enough like you know, crazy enough, like okay, with ambessa, like okay, I do like her weapons and whatnot, so I like what she did with all that shit right, and I also kind of like you know, kind of like a swerve kind of way to where the whole raid and whatnot in the earlier episodes, like oh, turns out that oh, you know how, like uh, the enforcer was almost going to be overtaken by those shimmer injected Zornites and and Bessa and her troops showed up just in time to like kill them off and whatnot, but turns out it was like staged and whatnot anyways, but the whole thing was that fight was good, but crazy enough.
Speaker 1:My favorite fight was when Victor had those. You know, victor had those, you know animatronic, you know those like puppet-type things, and he was fighting Jason and whatnot. Because I'm like whoa, hold on. Like the way he was fighting was like super fluid, like it was almost like adaptive combat, and I was like oh, shit, okay, okay, it's like kind of you know improvised attacks and shit. I'm like okay, okay, it's like you know improvised attacks and shit. I'm like okay, okay, kind of like the kind of fight that keeps you on your toes. You may never know how it might change. What is it capable of next? You know.
Speaker 3:That's true. That's true, even that same adapt. That's one of the reasons I like the best fight too Because of the fact that she was very clear into the fact that she was very clear into the fact that how she did things. She was so specific when she had those stones that she had got from her first lieutenant after he got killed, but was very clear about knowing when to protect against Mel's magic. She was going the fuck out of paint.
Speaker 1:She was smacking that bitch around like that she had that fighter sense when Caitlyn was going to snipe her and she was like she was smacking that bitch around. Like that she had that fighter sense when Caitlyn was going to snipe her and she was like, nope, you thought.
Speaker 3:So actually, no, it wasn't even that, because it actually showed the scene multiple times I was able to kind of see into that, because she had those stones on her, she had a protective barrier around her. So she didn't necessarily have to block, it's just because she had those stones. Any magic that comes near those stones is instantly absorbed.
Speaker 1:Wait, there was magic bullets that Kaylin was using.
Speaker 3:Okay, Now yeah, because when Kaylin was using Hex remember.
Speaker 3:Hex tech, where you use a Hex crystal. It technically is still magic. It's forced magic, but it's still magic. It's not bullets. So, yeah, it was still able to. It was just absorbs it every single time. So it was pretty much her second protection. Like it. You have to get club close and personal to her for physical but damn near every weapon uses magic. As far every damn near long-range weapon uses magic, so her stones kept her absolutely protected whatsoever, like so she was protected from magic and she's just fucking skilled, so you can't just walk up to her and think that you're going to fight. She was slicing through people like Kratos, though.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Like when she had like the cause, they, they extended out and changed a little, change gauntlets that extended out blades. That's why I'm like I need her, like I will go back and play league specifically, but it's been a while since I played League, so I would definitely play back for her. Because I want that animation, like just starting to do a little twirl around and slicing up enemies around just goes through like I would spam that attack, like I'll be like this cooldown ain't happening fast enough. Come on, come on, come on, I need to do this again, but no, for real, though. Like ambassador, as much as like obviously you don't really want to root for the bad guy.
Speaker 3:She was my favorite character season two. She was about that business. She was like I got a plan, we doing this shit. Um, even when they finally cracked the eggshell, I stood up. I was sitting down, but I had stood up and I was like it was a decoy. Victor was never In that fucking shell To begin with. Everyone's down To attack the shell, everyone's trying To attack the shell, everyone's trying To attack the shell. And then Mbessa Turned around and smiled Like Y'all dumbasses, this was a Trojan horse. And I'm like, oh shit.
Speaker 1:You know what I can understand, that Ambest is your favorite. But you know that's also kind of surprising because I thought you would say Echo was your favorite, especially the way he came in clutch against Victor to where he sacrifices Z-Drive to stop Victor and everything.
Speaker 3:That was just pure writing. Let's be very clear on that. We know that was pure writing. Oh, echo's my favorite character of season one. That's why I specified for season two. For season two it was Ambassador. She was straight up. Honestly, her death was messed up, you know, when she finally gets caught by the Rose. And then Mel finally, like Mel, getting that understanding that her mom lied, but so did rose as well too. So the black rose too. And I and I want y'all to understand, even though I am I have black rose pictures I have no affiliation to the mages that go around black rose pictures is my brand as far as my art and stuff uh, we don't zone or endorse kidnapping, not at
Speaker 3:all. So, mel, don't come after me, girl, like don't do that, Don't do that, unless you want to just come after me for something else. You know we can talk. But anyway, yeah, I didn't do nothing to your brother. I have no association, please leave me out of it. I appreciate that I was so hurt when it was like, oh, you don't know about the rose and the black rose. I'm like dang why they keep talking about black rose over and over again. Look, I feel like I'm getting a bad look right now, like that. I have no association. Was uncle ruckus no association.
Speaker 1:there we go hey, uh, you can be be like Akiza from Yu-Gi-Oh 5Ds, because she's also the Black Rose in that.
Speaker 3:Look, we even got Black Rose from hack too, so it's a bunch of different Black Rose. It's a bunch of different Black Rose, I'm just saying none of them is me. Don't associate people with some nonsense people.
Speaker 1:I don't know why you remind me of Caleb City. Look here, none of those niggas are me. That part.
Speaker 2:That part. None of them are me.
Speaker 3:But no, for reals, I just loved her strategic, like how she was going about things. She was so strategic in every single way. She thought through every single way. She thought through every single plan. Everything was like it wasn't nothing's perfect. So I'm not going to say it was perfect, nothing is perfect but it's just. You can't take away from the fact that she really slowed down and thought things through. She had so many different fail safes in order and it was like it was intense. I was like, okay, I got you. I like that. Um, I said fuck maddie, I don't like her again. Man, I don't like her whatsoever. Maddie is a straight up. No, uh, because, like, how dare you betray me like that? I, I honestly maddie was. Even her development was kind of weak a little bit to me. So I I had, I knew she was gonna die off. Keep that in mind.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I knew maddie was gonna die. I thought I mean, that made me think, oh shit, I need I'm probably need to watch this girl, because I think somebody knows something that, um, they shouldn't be revealing this early. So I'm like, okay, I'm gonna keep my eye on this girl. And then I'm like, oh, oh, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:It was very obvious she was gonna be a one off Character pretty soon, so I was like it was just a matter of when. Like when were they?
Speaker 1:Gonna get rid of her, and then, when they finally did, I was like Okay, it's just like Y'all really had to make her a villain, though I thought that she was gonna bite the dust Like earlier than that Look.
Speaker 3:Bulk, what was his name? Very end, I thought that she was gonna bite the dust on like earlier than that. Look, bulk, what was his name? Borg borg, the dude that was with vi helping her out the whole time when he uh, when she got drunk and everything. Then he was always paying attention to keeping an eye out for her was the one that got um shot in the uh arrow like um, yeah, shot in the neck.
Speaker 3:Yep, shot in the neck loris, that was his name okay, I was trying to remember exactly what I thought was like. I thought it was boring, so I they kept saying it, but my baby was crying when I was listening. So I'm sorry, but okay, like him, his death that was so sad. I was like, no, not mid-attack, he was like right there he was. Just he was like all I gotta do is pull this lever. All I gotta do is pull this lever, shot in there. I'm like no, that's what I told you. I said this feels like in game. It's like characters just keep dropping left and right. I said this ain't right. And you know what?
Speaker 1:the show is better for it, because I feel like there need to be some sort of stakes where I was like, oh well, you know, in a way, you just kind of get tired of when, okay, this big war Is about to happen, but you know, by the end of it, like Everybody that's on the good guy team pretty much Survived and they're just gonna laugh and dance it off and I'm like. You know, I mean I'm happy for them, but it doesn't really feel like there's Much weight to this build up and shit and like, let me go ahead and say, honestly, crazy enough.
Speaker 1:I think my favorite character even though I am a singed main um back when I was tanking, as then I was like a fucking menace as sin, trust me. Uh, crazy enough, I want to say, my favorite character this season goes to Victor because in a way, some of the he was saying was so insightful and cerebral I was like hold on, let me look, matter of fact, you're not wrong about that, victor in the future.
Speaker 3:I like how, when they did that, it was like because I forgot. I was like, hold on, let him go. Matter of fact, you're not wrong about that, victor in the future. I like how, when they did that, it was like Because I forgot I was talking about the back of time thing, the time paradox thing. When Victor wind up sending Jace back Because we knew it was Victor, it was no question about it, but we had no idea why he sent him back and what was going on. I liked how they did the writing, because it kept you questioning every single time, because when Jace first shows up, you know he kills Victor, he attempts to kill Victor. It doesn't work, but you're just like dang. He's like so Victor sent him back to kill himself. Like was that really what he did? And then you know we find out all the way, leading all the way up to the point where Victor finally allows himself to become again.
Speaker 3:I nicknamed him Hex God, victor, that's just what I call him. I'm just saying it's funny to me, but this just makes it easier for me. I mean, it sounds catchy when you think about it. It's just pretty much he became the hex god, the hextech god. So I was just like this is kind of what it was. Any person he touched, he immediately brought them into his domain and he had full control of their body. So it was like it's kind of god's mind like, see, that's my whole thing.
Speaker 1:Like he gave me moderate vibes where I'm like, oh well, we can all, can uh, live in this fancy world where there's no more pain and suffering and whatnot. But my future self realized, oh well, you know, there's really no escape from that. No matter what universe you go in, no matter how many times you, even if you actually manage to do it, it's only a matter of time before something new comes along and you're right back to square one. That's why.
Speaker 1:I like Attack on Titan in retrospect, because attack on site, even at the very end, where it's like saying like, okay, aaron jaeger died and all that, everybody moved on, but war still happened, people died, blah, blah, blah. So it goes to show that even if all that bullshit happens, like no matter how it goes, there's always going to be something that comes after it and you're just repeating the cycle, pretty much like what silco said, like killing, yeah, it was like, yeah, it was like it's like it's gonna.
Speaker 3:It's happened before y'all were born. It's gonna happen long after you two die. It's just gonna keep happening, because that's just what the world is. Yeah, but I, but I was like super, I was. I find it so intriguing in the fact that when Victor, you know, when he told Sing, you said, doctor, go ahead and proceed. And then we see Everybody transforming into the robotics was first off to me. I was like so the apex form of humanity Is to turn everyone robots. I'm like, hmm, so we're right Back to that again. Like when I robot again, yeah, it's like the only way to fix humanity is to make everyone think the same and become robotic.
Speaker 1:And I'm like, hmm, what was the other thing, skynet?
Speaker 3:Yep, skynet, yep. So it's like just nah, humanity is okay with its flaws. Like Jay said, those flaws is what makes you you, it's what helps you you and stuff. And it's the truth. You know, it takes those little steps that they make a big difference onto things and um, so yeah, I absolutely love that.
Speaker 1:but I like how, when victor first started transforming, oh man, he looked kind of menacing when you were transformed like oh shit right right and.
Speaker 3:But what got me was when he transformed, my brain automatically started thinking like wait, did victor send jace back to as a catalyst for this? When he was like, oh, I would never have became my perfect self until you had did what you did to me, because you doing it is what allowed me to finally see that I just needed to fix humanity. So then I started questioning. I'm like dang that feels like you're tronking perfect, cell all over again.
Speaker 3:I was like, I was like I was like no victor, did not not Victor playing fucking 4D chess, we sitting here?
Speaker 1:still playing 2D. It's like hey, you know, victor's whole thing was he was all about Glory's evolution. And I'm like, look here, y'all need to get on this level, right here. Y'all keep like playing with your Dumb Beatles and your rocks and instead I'm trying to teach y'all A better path. And I'm like, look here, y'all need to stop being cavemen and, like you know, get on a new wave here that part.
Speaker 3:But yeah, but then like, yeah, can't not not stripping away who makes us us? You know, if we all thought the same thing, we wouldn't have podcasts everybody be thinking the same thing. So what's the point in saying it? Type of thing. You know it's wonderful to have podcasts everybody be thinking the same thing, so what's the point in saying it? Type of thing. You know it's okay, it's wonderful to have different minds thinking different things. You know we all have different, have our own different favorite characters. Playboy, who is your favorite character this season?
Speaker 2:my favorite characters. You mean like from the like from arcane overall, or just like legalism.
Speaker 3:it could be arcane, it could be overall, because we have me and JB. We have different favorite characters for each season, because each one like Season one.
Speaker 2:one of my favorite characters would be Buddy that died. I forgot his fucking name. I was thinking about him earlier.
Speaker 3:There's a couple people that died.
Speaker 2:Yeah that doesn't help. Silco Xander. No, there's a couple people that died.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that doesn't help.
Speaker 2:No, no, not one of them. It was one of the guys that was running with Bob the skinny one With the fire hair type looking character. Oh, it was Bob the fat guy and the skinny one.
Speaker 1:Oh okay, it was either between Milo or Clack, or it was by the fat guy and the skinny one. Oh okay. Oh, it was like either between Milo or Clack, Milo, Milo, Milo, Milo.
Speaker 2:It was Milo. I can't get it right, Okay. Okay, I was just about to look at it. So I like Milo, but I'm a Vi main, so of course I love Vi. I I've played her a couple of times. She's a good ADC. I've never had a problem with one of my teams. I just personally don't play her, and when I go, against her?
Speaker 1:I don't have. Honestly, she was fun for a minute.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, she's a good ADC. She's honestly OP at play. Her DPS is I'm a bot lane, so I'm in the jungle a lot.
Speaker 1:I feel like I could one shot I think I still got my officer by um skin on for her so like, because that was like the best one for me in my opinion um, I have, uh, damn, what is the one where she's in her suit?
Speaker 2:I got the one where she's in her fucking.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're talking about, like the dress suit.
Speaker 2:Okay, I got you yeah, yeah, yeah. The boss looking motherfucker. I mean, she can pull it off really good too, but I does pull it off very well. Y'all wrong, I fuck with it. I fuck with that. Yeah, okay, but I am honestly hoping for, like if, like Irving to you know, they might do the show in seasons, like with the factions, like right now they're doing Piltover Zahn.
Speaker 1:I mean they gotta do Demacia for sure, like.
Speaker 2:This half where I, like I said, with Nasus invading Ionia, and my favorite characters all come from Ionia, you know Yasuo Karma, irelia Riven they're all my favorite characters.
Speaker 3:I mean. So we're gonna see. It'd be nice to see what is gonna happen, because after season one, like there was questions about whether they really did want to try to work on a season two and it was gonna be debated upon whether or not season one was taking. Well, which clearly it was. It got Rotten Tomatoes gave it a hundred percent and then Movie Database gave it a ten out of ten and it was like fans fucking loved it. It's one of the few shows that has a perfect score all around. Very little things that critic.
Speaker 1:Even the complaints that critics said they said it was so minor it was no reason to even mark it down, type of thing so see, that's how you can tell when something's really good, when the usual critics, like the critics that you know of, don't even say shit about it's like chance they'll probably say like either they don't care enough to do a video or whatnot, or it's like they thought was good enough for what it was and they don't really need to say much on it.
Speaker 1:Like that's how I noticed, like uh, I won't say any names, but like there's like some really famous uh, youtube critics on youtube and usually when something really shitty comes out, like oh, I can trust that they're going to say something about it. Like, say, for instance, ring to Power, people were shitting on that so hard. Like oh well, I can trust the usual people to say something about it, but if it was really good, I mean I won't say it was like really good. Like I mean I'm gonna say it was like really good, but like uh, good enough to where, like it's hard to hate it, like agatha, all along to where I'm gonna be honest with y'all, like people were assuming that it was gonna be bad, but like by the end of it I'm like actually it was pretty good. And I noticed how the people who I usually follow that criticized thing. They didn't say shit about it so far, so I'm like oh well, even they must thought it was good so yeah, yeah I
Speaker 3:can definitely see that. Yeah, like I mean, we're gonna see how it goes. Maybe we're gonna get a chance to really flesh out, maybe we'll finally get a chance to see different um, different areas, different people. I mean, obviously there's tons of characters that we have not been introduced to yet oh, like, definitely, like get the whole shit with the boy.
Speaker 1:You know like, uh, how there's monsters from the boy coming in, but, of course, my favorite so far like we need to get like kozic versus bring, or like I need to see that.
Speaker 3:I can see that. I can see that I don't I'm trying to think of any other, I don't. I don't really have too much else to really mention for me per se onto this show.
Speaker 1:Like I have a bunch of moments that I really like and I I'm not gonna lie I could talk for hours, but we ain't got the time, so yeah, like at this point, like with the podcast, like we try not to give away too much about what happened because, like, chances are, y'all probably already watched it or you probably listened to this episode in passing. But the whole thing is we just want to talk about the main things that we took away from the series, and you know, if you want to clear a picture of what we're talking about and whatnot, the best way to go about it is just go ahead and watch the series. True, that's the best we can do.
Speaker 1:Well, before I go, if anything, really, I would say that the only time we'll really like go into excruciating detail about something is when we're really trying to convince you that it's not worth your time and even then I'm like there's just some things where I'm like, hey bro, I don't even care enough to do a review.
Speaker 1:That's why things like Velma and other things are like on the ban list. Because I'm like there's just some things where I'm like, hey bro, I don't even care enough to do a review. That's why things like Velma and other things are like on the ban list, Because I'm like listen, I'm just not going to have fun making that review.
Speaker 1:Like I'm going to be so angry at myself for even entertaining that series because I thought it might be good, because the animation was not bad, but it was so not worth your time so I'm not going to even bother doing a review on it. I might mention it in passing, like I am now, but outside of that you ain't getting shit from me.
Speaker 3:I understand. I understand you had mentioned something about the ending. To me the ending was just sad, but you said something different, JP said.
Speaker 1:I said that it was confusing because I thought, like, with her dying, I thought how it's gonna tie into the lore of the game. But y'all already explained that. Oh well, it's like separate from the game. So okay, well, I can't accept that as it is. But then I thought like okay, with the hints that I revisit, I'm okay. Well, she might still survive, so I'm okay, all right, you know what? Fine, like I'm cool with the ending. Now, that was the only thing that threw me off, like the way they did it. I'm like wait, did she die or what happened?
Speaker 3:but, yeah, that kind of threw me off for a minute, so I'm good now, I'm good okay, because I think even like heimerdinger's death will kind of be following that same category throwing stuff out a little bit.
Speaker 1:So I'm like, at least with him. You knew that he was going to sacrifice himself. You know like he's not gonna come back to the same universe they were in. So I'm like you kind of knew anyways. But yeah, oh shit, Just kind of got booted out accidentally. But I'm sure he's going to show up again. Playboy, you got anything you want to add on to all this? Oh, there he is.
Speaker 3:No, sorry, my phone my bad.
Speaker 2:Yes, I don't know, he was speaking facts. He was speaking facts. You feel me my bad? Uh, yes, I don't know particularly he was speaking facts. He was speaking facts, you feel me. I don't know if he even played the game, but he definitely would drop us some shit I still didn't even know about yeah, he played, uh, yeah, uh, cool guys, I was saying that, uh, with Heimerdinger at least, you kinda knew that.
Speaker 1:Um, he was gonna like do that, but with jinx it was like I mean dang, like I can't say that she was planning on like sacrifice herself either, but like she was kind of planning on doing something like that. You know, like she was gonna have that her hero moment, kind of like. She was a reluctant hero In a sense, like that was her whole arc In the season 2 to where, like she's like this hero Zone and she was like you know, nah, like I'm not that kind of hero, I'm just more Like the I do what I want, kind of Rogue type shit. But that's beside the point. The whole thing was she was going to have this big hero. Oh, you know what, koki, that's real crazy.
Speaker 1:How you're making parallels to Endgame, how Captain America telling Iron man that, oh, you're not the type of hero that made the big hero moves or the big plays or the sacrificial plays. At the end of end game, guess what Iron man did? He made a sacrificial move. But yeah, um, I was kind of confused about her doing that because I thought, you know, I'm just so thinking that she's gonna be joining the summer eventually. But, like y'all were saying that, if it's not related to, if they're not trying to tie in the series to the uh game, kind of like, what fallout was trying to do with the tv series was where at least you can make the argument there that the fallout tv series takes place like 30 or so years from the first fallout game. So, or the first fallout game or new vegas, whatever, whatever, uh, whole point being it's like a prequel to that. So I thought it was going to be the same logic there, but oh well, you know.
Speaker 3:Alright, my confusion has been dispelled alright, cool, cool, but otherwise I love Arcane Season 2. It was fantastic. Honestly, I would probably go back and re-bench, just re-watch it, because my wife hasn't seen it yet and she's asked me if it was good and I've been telling her it was good.
Speaker 3:I'm like, yes, just sit down and watch it. We're going to watch it all together now. We're not going to have to wait for a couple years of season break, we're going to watch it all together right now. Let's just go ahead and do it. I mean, it was 16 hours 16 hours, no, 17 actually, because it was. It was like no, what was it? Three episodes, season one, no, nine episodes season one. Nine episodes, season two right, so 18, 18 hours of my life. That actually I'm not even upset about. Like, that was a. It was worth it. That was a fucking worth the 18 hours of my life to enjoy that. They did great. I won't go back to that meme that you said that you sent JBb whereas, like disney's, like we need to write well-made characters, is it? I don't know if we could do it.
Speaker 1:So no, arcane, did it, you can do it too specifically, they were like we need to make something that's inclusive and well-written. I was like, but that's impossible. Sir Arkane was able to do it with League of Legends lore.
Speaker 3:Exactly, bro. Just like it's not impossible, it really ain't impossible. You just sit down, you think about the characters, like take your time, man, take your time, don't rush it.
Speaker 1:Just take it slow. You can literally copy and paste, like, see, that's the problem with Star Wars. Like, funny enough, that meme was to make jokes about the Acolyte, but funny how we mention this. How, with Star Wars, listen, y'all got so much fucking lore to work with and y'all just keep missing the dunk with some of these later projects coming, I'm like how the fuck do y'all fuck this up when y'all can literally copy and paste lore that's already been established and we wouldn't even bat an eye because, oh well, you know, as long as it looks good, like, like I said with arcane, to where, like, you already got the story down, pat right, all you need to do is like, at this point, just focus more so on the visual and musical spectacle of it, and then we'll like even more and see arcane know what the fuck it was doing, because it already had lord work with.
Speaker 1:All you had to do was like fill in some gaps. Like, as far as I know, it could have very well been intertwined with the game lore, but that's just the thing it's like. Unless somebody tells me otherwise, I'm kind of assuming that it's so accurate to what could have happened in the game lore that, who knows that eventually by jings, warwick, caitlyn, all of them gonna reunite at some point and join the summer's rip and all that other shit, and that's probably gonna be way later down the line. But that's just things. It could have gone either way and I'm like you know what, I'm cool with it Either way. Star Wars is just sitting together.
Speaker 3:True, alright, but hey, that's all the time that I got Anything else that you need me for right now.
Speaker 1:I'm good, I'm good Playboy, you good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, man, I'm great dog, I'm good. I'm good at this when I play the game. I've been wanting to play it all day, but I wasn't going to wait until after the podcast.
Speaker 1:I got it. You know we good. Let's wrap this up Like I said Arcane Five-star animation. Go watch it on Netflix. With that being said, let's go ahead and zone out of here. Thank you for listening to our podcast, playboy kokuyasu. Thank you for being on the show. Remember to stay nerdy and that great things are coming. Go ahead and have yourself a good morning, good afternoon and good night, but, most importantly, take it easy.
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