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Ponyo and Kiki's Delivery Service: Witches, Merfolk and Magic in Cinema
Have you ever wondered how a goldfish named Brunhilde transforms into a lively human girl? Join us as we explore the magical world of Studio Ghibli's Ponyo on the ZONE Podcast. Alongside our special guest, Sebby Phantom, we unravel the whimsical parallels between Ponyo and The Little Mermaid and delve into the captivating animation style that brings this enchanting story to life. From Ponyo's adventures with a young boy named Sosuke to her father's comical attempts to retrieve her, we celebrate the film's joyful charm and memorable characters, including the ethereal Gran Mamare.
But the magic doesn't stop there! As we turn our attention to another beloved Ghibli classic, Kiki's Delivery Service, prepare to be charmed by Kiki and her feline companion, Gigi. We draw playful comparisons to Sabrina and Salem from Sabrina, the Teenage Witch, highlighting Kiki's journey of self-discovery and independence as she sets up her delivery service in a whimsical new town. Through an engaging discussion, we reflect on the universal challenges of overcoming blocks and regaining confidence, drawing surprising parallels between Kiki's journey and Peter Parker's in Spider-Man 2.
Finally, we'll introduce a fascinating theory that links Ponyo to Kiki's Delivery Service as a potential prequel, pondering the continuity of magic in Miyazaki's cinematic universe. With insights into the shared themes and storytelling style that make these films timeless, we celebrate their replay value and how they enhance productivity as comforting backdrops to our daily lives. Whether you're a lifelong fan or new to the captivating world of Studio Ghibli, this episode promises nerdy adventures and nostalgic escapes into Miyazaki's imaginative realms!
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Welcome back to the Zone Podcast, the show about nerdy news and reviews. I'm Jet Blackestream, and joining me today is Sebi Phantom for another double feature. Last time we were talking about what were we talking about? My Neighbor Totoro and Spirited Away? Yes, you might have Excuse me, I've been. It's just been weird for me. I was kind of sick and also there's a whole thing with Flooding in my area.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, this time let's go ahead and talk about Ponyo and Kiki's delivery service. We and talk about Ponyo and Kiki's Delivery Service. We'll start with Ponyo first, even though Kiki's Delivery Service came before Ponyo. But I'm like you know, I kind of want to knock out Ponyo out of the way first. So let's go ahead and get into it. For starters.
Speaker 2:With Ponyo, can I just say it almost felt like the anime equivalent of Little Mermaid, but it obviously played out differently. Where you have Ponyo, or her birth name was Brunhilde, excuse me, her birth name was Brunhilde. And the thing is, her father Fujimoto who's this wizard? That was human before he decided to live underwater and he had Brunhilde, the eldest daughter, and well, I'm gonna say eldest, but she's definitely the biggest, and there's like a whole lot of the smallest sisters that have like no names, but they're like small, like guppy, like goldfish, like creatures with huge faces, and her and her siblings. They go on this outing with the dad and this poor flipper submarine and she sneaks on yo, I'm not calling for you know, I know that's her, uh, first name. That's like calling Goku Kakarot, like we don't do that here.
Speaker 2:Ponyo sneaks up and pulls away on the back of a jellyfish and then she encounters this fishing trawler and gets trapped in a glass jar, drifts onto shore into this small fishing town and got rescued by this five-year-old kid named Sosuke. Now, when he shattered the jar with a rock, sosuke cut his finger. Ponyo licks the blood and healing the wound almost instantly, and Sosuke was like oh well, I found this goldfish, cool, cool. What to call you? You know, I'll call you Ponyo, yeah, and then promised to protect her and all that. Meanwhile you have the father, who's just drawn over the fact that this kid just kidnapped his daughter, so he needs to go up to land and retrieve her and I like how, it's funny, how it's how can I put it?
Speaker 2:it's kind of like pirates of caribbean, to where, uh, davy Jones, he can't walk on dry land, but in this case it's more like he got this apparatus on his back, kind of like Mario Sunshine, to where he is watering the ground on his Before his feet so that way he can stay hydrated and whatnot. You know, he's trying not to uh dry up on dry land and the mom, lisa thought he was a creep and you know, like, excuse me, sir, you can't uh have weed eater out here now. This is a weed killer. Uh, this is, um, it's just water, so I don't dry it. I kind of like how, in this universe, things like merpeople and witches, they're like eh well, you know it's a thing and where was I with all this?
Speaker 2:Basically, fujimoto he searches for Ponyo and he calls out his way spirits to cover her and Sosuke thought, oh no, my goldfish is gone. And he was like really confused about what happened. And all of this, while all of this is happening, there was like typhoon-like storms across Japan. While all this is happening, there was typhoon-like storms across Japan and while Ponyo was back with her father, she was like I refuse to let you call me by her birth name. My name's Ponyo from now on and I want to be a human, I want to be with Sosuke, and blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 2:And then Fujimoto was trying to prevent her from escaping. She was also growing limbs and he was like no change back to prevent her from escaping. She was also like growing limbs and he was like no change back to the way you were. And the thing was, the reason why she began changing into a human was because of the blood that she licked from Sosuke's finger. And I'm sitting here like, ah, the medical implications of that, just I mean I guess it's cute but at the same time like that's weird.
Speaker 2:Uh, I feel like that shouldn't be a thing, at least not in reality. And then, anyways, once kwayo breaks free with the help of her sisters, fujimoto decides that he needs to go to Grand Mammaray, who is Ponyo's mother. And my god, I just like how she has that flowing pink hair, like it's cloud like and shit. Kind of reminds me of Rose from Steven Universe, but longer and more intriguing to see. But she, she looks like a very ethereal character and I like that. Like I like whenever she's involved in the uh animation, the art just seems so ethereal and spiritual, almost like when you watch sailor moon, and sometimes they have those really Beautiful romantic moments and I'm like, okay, I kind of want to see it. I got a little sauce here at these moments.
Speaker 2:Okay, anyways, ponyo was making her way back to Sosuke and it was funny how these Waves take the form of like giant fish and she was like Walking on top like giant fish and she was like walking on top of them and it was like really cool. And essentially, hanya, reunited with Sosuke, lisa, was like, okay, so apparently your goldfish became a human. Alright, let's take her in and get her dried off and whatnot, you're just gonna have yourself a new playmate. I guess that's a funny thing about this film. It's almost like they're making it sound like they're setting these kids up to get married one day, almost like there's gonna be a romantic relationship between them. But I'm like, oh my god, I'm sorry, but I'm like thinking of a omni man, where it's like she's like a pet and I'm like, damn you know what.
Speaker 2:He's not wrong, but the way you make it sound and then the whole point being is that uh ponyo wanted to be human and whatnot, this is disturbing the natural balance of nature and essentially it came down to okay, if you want all these uh typhoons and tsunamis to stop, so they gotta pass the test. And all he had to do was say, hey, yo, like would you love ponyo, even if she was a fish. And I'm saying you're like, it's like the memes all over again. To where, like would you?
Speaker 1:still love me if I was a worm or a bird and I'm like why are you doing this so?
Speaker 2:early in the morning for the most part I did love the film like solid film where it felt more like the balance of nature was the main theme of this one. Uh, the animation was pretty solid for well, it was in 2008, so I won't say that's fair. Uh, yeah, once again kind of like with my neighbor told her I would say it's like a good comfort film, so eight out of ten, so I would say like a four out of five stars, uh what are your thoughts sebi?
Speaker 3:so this is one of my all-time not my all, my all-time, all-, but it's one of my all time favorite Studio Ghibli films. I sing the theme song about twice a day, doing random nonsense. I'll be singing Again. Yeah, fujimoto, 10 out of 10. That man is something else. Grand Mare, my mare, 10 out of 10. That woman is something else. Grandmare, my mare, 10 out of 10. That woman is something else. A lot of people are like how did she bag him? I'm like, because they bag each other, because they both hot anyway, this.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I agree with you, this is just a comforting movie. I get where they're going, like if he doesn't love her, her, if Sasuke doesn't love Ponyo, she's gonna turn into seafoam. It definitely brings me back to like the Little Mermaid, like the original. But this is just a comforting film. It's bright colors, it's just. Everything about it is just like perfect. And yeah, this movie is actually based off of um Hans Christian's Little Mermaid.
Speaker 3:Miyazaki recalled that as a nine year old, he ended up borrowing this. In addition to that, he also had a fish that he named Hanya, so kind, of all together, you get Hanya the movie. Um had a fish that he named Ponyo, so kind of all together, you get Ponyo the movie. But yeah, just everything about it is just. It's just something special here. Like and I agree with you the whole they're setting him up for marriage. Wink, wink. I will get into that theory later when we talk about Kiki, but this setting for Ponyo is actually inspired by a real-life town in Japan. If I remember correctly, I think it's called Tomonora. Sorry, I butchered that.
Speaker 2:No, I butchered names a lot, so excuse me.
Speaker 3:Did you know that Tina Fey played Lisa? I did not you know now, and Liam Neeson played Fujimoto hold on.
Speaker 2:I'm looking at the English voice cast now. Tina Fey was Lisa, matt Damon was Koichi, the dad.
Speaker 3:Okay, yes, this cast is so hype.
Speaker 2:Liam Neeson was Fujimoto Betty.
Speaker 3:White.
Speaker 2:Kay Blanchett as Randy Lily.
Speaker 3:Tomlin.
Speaker 2:Jesus Christ.
Speaker 3:This cast is like stacked.
Speaker 2:I honestly did not notice that the first time around, but I'm like whoa, hold on, Okay, this guy started cast. Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3:That's what happens with a lot of these Studio Ghibli movies. It's like these cast members that they find are like top tier, like people that you wouldn't even think of them being in a Studio Ghibli movie in the first place. Like I remember, one of the movies that we're going to cover has freaking Brad Pitt in it.
Speaker 2:Man, you know what Hello? Just for that I might have to rewatch. I just got through watching Ponyo. I'm like I need to watch it again, just to hear their voices again.
Speaker 3:I'm like no way, like I did not pick that up Like Yoshi being Betty White being Yoshi is very, very like you can hear Betty White's voice. Betty White being Yoshi is very, very like you can hear Betty White's voice. Betty White has a very iconic voice. But a lot of these other stars, like a lot of these stars are a lot younger, like Noah Cyrus and Frankie Jonas. They're a lot younger, so we don't automatically think it.
Speaker 2:It's like with Lilo and Spirited Away. I think the only hold on. Is he the same one? I'm thinking of Yep? You will probably remember Frankie Jonas, if you remember that the Jonas Brothers have like a younger Brother.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, yeah from Camp Rock. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm kind of familiar with Frankie, but like, oh damn, I didn't pick that up, I didn't know that was the same Frankie, though.
Speaker 3:I think that was like one of his first ever like films that he did. Okay, okay.
Speaker 1:Cool, cool.
Speaker 3:Noah Cyrus, hannah Monk, hannah or Miley Cyrus' little sister, wow.
Speaker 2:Crazy, it's crazy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if I had to rate this movie, I'd give it about the same 8 out of 10. 4 out of 5. Like this movie is very comforting. Like it's a good comfort movie.
Speaker 2:Now let's go ahead and roll into kiki's delivery service. Now let me just say right off the bat even though this is definitely like a stretch, like I don't think it was actually inspired by this, but the thing was it's funny how I can't help but Look at Kiki and Gigi, like Sabrina and Salem from Sabrina, the Teenage Witch, where I'm like Of all Duos, with the whole witch and Familiar tag team.
Speaker 2:It's like those two Just have the most chemistry, like you know, with Salem being as Sassy as he is, and you know sabrina being like a up-and-coming witch, and that's the kind of thing with kiki too. She's like an up-and-comer, but the only thing is her only ability is flying. So she's like, okay, what can I do with only flying? So, oh well, chips out, I can just make a delivery service. Like I can do that, like I can just zoom over to traffic and get your goods to you faster than most people. But yes, let's just go ahead and get into it. So, kiki, she decides to go out on her own, and which all young women must do and she takes her cat and her mom insists that she takes the old, reliable broomstick. I just imagine that's funny about me, where you just open up the whole case and it's like, oh, or like Harry Potter, you know, just get this new broomstick. Well, it's like an old one, but you know. And then Kiki flies off to this new town and she's encountering another witch and her cat, and you know they're being pretentious and whatnot, but they did give kiki the idea that she needs to find out where her special skill is and, for the time being, is flying. So she flies into the town of Corico and flies into traffic and all the other stuff. Uh, she gets approached by policemen but uh, a boy named Tombo helped her escape.
Speaker 2:And now let me talk about Tombo a little bit. I like how he's like trying to be uh friends or you know, trying to raise her up or whatnot. But he's like trying to be uh friends or you know, trying to riz her up or whatnot. But he's like so socially awkward with his approach to where it just seems like he just strikes that or he just uh kind of how can I put this? Either he's not saying the right things or he's saying the wrong thing. Like with the introduction. Like first of he didn't introduce himself properly and that made her pissed off at him. And then the second thing was when he was riding around with his buddies.
Speaker 1:And he was like hey, it's Kiki, like hold on.
Speaker 2:Like hey, kiki, you want to ride with us? And I was like oh, you know, she's a witch. And I was like, and then pissed her off a little bit more. And then his friends were like good luck next time. I'm like you can tell that they're very good friends. And Kiki, looking for a new place to live and looking for work in a new town, she come across this bakery. I am not pronouncing that name, I'm looking at it right now. I'm like no, I'm not going to even Bother with that.
Speaker 3:I was going to attempt it and then I looked at it and said, never mind.
Speaker 2:I'm like, hold, hold on, let me try, let me try Utioki Panda. Yeah, that's going to be your only time for me.
Speaker 3:Ten out of ten. I give that to you.
Speaker 2:Yeah, owned by Osano and her husband Apuco, and they're expecting a child. Osano is inviting her to live in a room above the bakery and also opening up a um business delivering goods by broomstick, which is known as which delivery service? I'm like, I feel like you could have workshopped that name a little bit, like.
Speaker 2:I mean, I know the title of the movie is kiki's delivery service, but I'm like really like you could just say kiki's delivery service, but I'm like, really you could have just said Kiki's delivery service. I'm like simple and clean. Anyways, for the most part, her first delivery was delivering this small stuffed toy of a black cat that looked just like Gigi, and along the way she got caught up by some winds. Crows attacked her, she loses the toy and they come up with this plan to where Gigi just fills in and pretends to be the toy until Kiki goes back and find the real one. And there's this painter, ursula, which is funny because we're talking about Ponyo and Kiki's delivery service and we're going to talk about this theory about them being related. But it's funny how we're talking about how they're related and there's a character named Ursula in this film, but in the last film that was a little mermaid, so you know. Anyways, ursula repairs and returns the stuffed toy and, with the help of a dog, kiki successfully retrieved GD and replaced him with the stuffed cat. And the next day Tombo shows up again, invites him to advise her to his aviation club and she gets busy with her deliveries. She gets caught in a thunderstorm, she has to literally put in a rain check, she gets sick and Osono takes care of her.
Speaker 2:Osono also tries to be an MVP and secretly arranges Kiki to see Tombo again by signing her a delivery to him. Kiki apologizes for missing the to see Tombo again by signing a delivery to him. Kiki apologized for missing the party. Tombo takes her out for a test ride on the flying machine that he was working on, back from bicycle, you know, like that kind of contraption the Wright brothers were making. It looked kind of like that and Kiki started warming up to him but once again got disgusted by tombo's friends and I'm like I don't, I don't blame him, like, like, not gonna lie, I don't know about you, sebi, but I definitely have experience with rolling around with people who are like, oh, you know they're not that bad.
Speaker 3:But then over the years you just realize you know what, nah, I can't fuck with y'all I mean, that was me in high school oh well, I guess you can't really yeah, you hang out with them for so long and then you finally becoming a doll and you're like why was I hanging out with y'all in the first place?
Speaker 1:I don't know. I guess they were like cool at first.
Speaker 2:You know, like we did guess, yeah, like I mean, we had like similar interests and whatnot, so I was like, why not? But then eventually it's like the more you get to know them, the more you realize they're not for you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2:But anyway, like, essentially, kiki gets depressed, uh, defines how that she no one can understand. Gigi is almost like she had like a whole Spider-Man 2 arc in this, like, that's kind of funny in a way to where with this movie, it feels like, uh, it could have been three movies in one with all these different deliveries that she was making. But, yeah, uh, ursula then visits Kiki, asks if she could go to her house. Uh, she agrees, they spend time together and Ursula, um, determines that her problem is like, uh, like artist's block or writer's block, and I think that's what um Peter had.
Speaker 2:The same problem Peter Parker had, uh, where he was like, oh man, I can't use my spider powers and I guess he just needed to um, arrange his priorities and shit, and he was like, okay, I'm back at it. So it simply took an accident with an airship for Kiki to find this push broom I guess you know those different brooms where it's like kind of like that flat top and whatnot and used this little push broom and got her rushed to the scene to rescue Tombo from the airship accident and, with her confidence restored, restored, she resumes, her delivery service, writes home to her mom and all and saying that. Oh yeah, me and g doing all right and that's pretty much the film yeah, so ultimately I would say once again it's an all right film.
Speaker 2:I want to say I'm gonna be fair and say eight out of ten for this one too, because I would have said seven because of how the art just feels a little outdated, but then again it's from 1989, so I'm not going to be that mean about it, but it was fine for what it was. I will say that I kind of wish there was like more stakes involved with these. Like it was kind of going somewhere with Spirited Away, where the whole thing was oh, chihiro, she either gotta sign her life away to save her parents and if she spending too much time dilly-dallying, uh, she's just gonna lose her identity and whatnot. So she had to lock in to, um, get her parents back and get out of that whole situation. So I want to say with kiki's delivery service, if there was a theme here I would say it's mainly about maturity, to where you know, kiki going on her own, uh, into this new town and she's already like an entrepreneur in a sense and for the most part, like you know, nags and whatnot, but for the most part she's doing all right for herself. So I kind of like that.
Speaker 2:So I like how, with miyazaki's films, there's like a simple thing to go on and it's like the films are never too over complicated. Excuse me, that's just the funny thing. It's like I was talking about Fantastic Beasts and how with the second and third film, things were getting so convoluted. It was like there were just very sightly plot holes being seen, while with the Miyazaki films it's like it's such a simple story in all of them it's like it's hard to mess things up here. So that's why I can say that with the Studio Ghibli movies, the main reason why they're so good is that they try not to overcomplicate things with their plots. It's like this is how it is and you can just enjoy the ride, enjoy the journey and whatnot. That's what I appreciate about these films. Sebby, you have anything to add on to Kiki's Delivery Service?
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I do Buckle up, let's do this Alright. Kiki's delivery service oh yeah, I do Buckle up, let's do this Alright. First off, I want to go over. This film was again another classic. It was simply beautiful the artwork. I mean Miyazaki said it himself. He was actually really busy. He was actually making two other films in the production of Kiki. He thought it was rushed, but in the end it came out perfect. He was actually really busy. He was actually making two other films In the production of Kiki. He thought it was rushed, but in the end it came out perfect. He was working on my Neighbor Totoro and Grave of the Fireflies. That's a movie, but he said he felt like it was very Hold on Sebi Real quick.
Speaker 2:I was joking when I was talking about how Kiki had this whole Spider-Man 2 arc going on midway into the film. Meanwhile, the voice actress for Kiki was Kirsten Dunst.
Speaker 3:Right, yeah, no, I know I was going to get to that. I'm like this is also another film that has a goaded line of actors. You've got get to that. I'm like this is also another film that has a goaded line of actors. You've got, like you said, kirsten Dunst. You have Phil Hartman. You have Matthew Lawrence. Matthew Lawrence was the boy that played in Mrs Doubtfire the brother.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, the brother, oh yeah you have debbie reynolds, you, you've got another bang up line. I don't know how they find the most randomest of actors to play the most randomest of films. These are people that I would never like pick, but you know what they make it work, um, but I wanna, I wanna go over a theory with. But you know what they make it work, um, but I wanna, I wanna go over A theory with you, if that's okay with you.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:So Ponyo is the prequel To Kiki's delivery service In this theory?
Speaker 2:Um yeah, I'm curious about that, because I wanna see how that tracks.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, most definitely so, ponyo, you know, ponyo has orange hair, sasuke has black hair. Um, in Kiki's delivery Service, the baker, um and baker's in the baker's way, oh gosh, yeah, um, they also have orange hair and black hair, so, um, so that's something that they're seeing the correlation there. But they're saying that this basically happens around 20 years after the events of ponyo. Um, they got married, they went to a place by the sea, so ponyo would be more comfortable. Magic still exists.
Speaker 3:In both movies. They look the same. They change their names to fit in with the rest, with the rest of humans. Um, that is the biggest theory from these movies. And, by the way, in kiki's delivery service, that Osuno, the way Osuno talks is very like in sentences. I don't want to say in sentences, but the way she talks is very Ponyo-ish to a lot of people. So that's what they're saying, like yep, this is Ponyo, she just changed her name so that she could fit in more, but that is a theory. This is Ponyo, she just changed her name so that she could fit in more, but that is a theory.
Speaker 2:A film theory.
Speaker 3:A film theory.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:But no, hold on real quick. It's not that I don't want to believe that it's valid. It's more like it's one of those things where sometimes Film directors and what not, they will recycle Certain characters Like certain archetypes, so it could be that. But also I'm like the main thing with them Changing their names to fit in With normal humans and I'm like well S main thing with them changing their names to fit in with normal humans and I'm like, well, sosuke always been human and Ponyo is now human, so it's not like they can use magic. So, and also, if they move to another town or whatnot, I'm like that's like, unless Pony, ponyo and um Sosuke did something to where, oh well, we need to lay low and um start over again with a new life and whatnot, then I can believe that.
Speaker 2:But based off the way Ponyo ended, uh, I'm like, ah, I'm kinda it kinda feels like a stretch to where, like stretch to where. Like, if there were like shenanigans going on to where, okay, ponyo still kept her magic and she was like still causing chaos, like unintentionally, but it was still like chaos being ensued, then yeah, I can kind of see that. But if they're both humans and she had to give up her magic to become human. See that. But if they're both humans and she had to give up her magic to become human, I'm like I'm finding this relation hard to believe I sent you a picture on what miyazaki drew.
Speaker 3:Um, how about you go check that out?
Speaker 2:uh, you see it yeah yeah, I mean, that's what I'm saying like they definitely look like it's like a wink to where, if you have an imagination, you can definitely imagine that yourself.
Speaker 3:But to me I mean have an imagination, you can definitely imagine that yourself. But to me I mean, there are no other films that has this much of a correlation like.
Speaker 2:I feel like when they made Ponyo and keep in mind Kiki's a little bit 1989, ponyo was 2008, so that was like almost a 20-year gap. So I feel like maybe Ponyo could serve as a prequel to where it's like oh, it's like a wink to Kiki's Delivery Service. But then again, with the whole thing about magic existing, we can say that about all the Miyazaki films. When you think about it, I think about my Neighbor Totoro supernatural creatures running around, spirited away. There was a whole spirit world that Chihiro was exploring Howl's Moving Castle. He did not say more.
Speaker 3:I know. What's funny is that Miyazaki Wanted his next film to be the sequel To Ponyo, but his Producer, toshio, convinced him To make the Wind Rises instead. So we were supposed to have a sequel to Ponyo Sad.
Speaker 2:Okay, you know what, if that Ponyo sequel Ever happened and if it got canned, then oh well, if it did happen, and they were like making it more obvious that, yeah, ponyo and Sosuke pretty much moved to this new town and uh, renamed themselves, uh, osano and Fukuo, just to blend in with people. I'm like yo, that's funny as hell, right, but I mean people. I'm like yo, that's funny as hell Right.
Speaker 1:But I mean, I kind of like that.
Speaker 2:But at the same time I'm like mmm, I feel like if there was like more dots to connect all this, I'm like dang, you know what I it could be the case, like it could be a sequel, but like I mean a prequel. Excuse me, but I'm getting confused. Like Ponyo is the prequel to Kiki's Delivery Service. That's what I'm saying. That's why we did it in the order that we did, because I want to say that if Ponyo is the prequel, then let's talk about the prequel first right?
Speaker 3:no, yeah, I definitely understand.
Speaker 1:I knew the method that you were going for but yeah, both films solo films, 8 out of 10, 4 out of 5.
Speaker 2:I would say they're like 5 out of 5 in spirit of things. But I want to say, like me personally, I'm to a point to where I kind of want my films and TV shows to have that special sauce, to where, okay, I'll definitely remember some of the shit that went down in this movie or this tv show, to where, like it gotta be one of those things where y'all must have did something, to where I'll never be the same again. Like django unchained. Like there's so many quotables in django unchained, where I'm I still quote the movie to this day, uh, every now and then. So, because it's just that good, it's like just that memorable as well, like it just lives in your head, rent-free, uh, with ponyo and kiki's delivery service and just about all the miyazaki films.
Speaker 2:Like spirit away once again, like I said in the um last double feature.
Speaker 2:To where that was like my first miyazaki film that I sat through and like it kind of stuck with me because you know especially the way it seemed like um, kind of scary how the parents became pigs and this little girl is like scared, shitless in this world full of different creatures and whatnot, and all she's trying to do is just get her parents back and get back to their car so they can drive up to their new home and whatnot. And I'm like I was kind of digging on spirit away. It was like it felt like if you really pay attention to the film, it had that sauce kind of sprinkled in to where it's like okay, I kind of understand this film, like it kind of speaks to me in a way. With the rest of the film I would say I like them, but it's like it's not my normal cup of tea. It's like I like them for what they are, but normally not my speed. You know I'm kind of used to the shonen, high-paced I mean fast-paced, high-octane, action-packed shit. You know.
Speaker 3:No, yeah, I definitely understand. While I'm complete opposite, this is the movie that I love. These are the types of movies that I want to watch over and, over and over again. I mean, I think I've told you I've watched House Castle so many times. That movie is my life, that's my quotable movie. I won't ever not stop watching House Castle.
Speaker 2:I feel you. I feel you. Was there anything you wanted to add on to both films, anything that we might have missed?
Speaker 3:Nope, I think we've covered it all. They're both great films. You said it yourself. Your ratings were as much as my ratings. Um, they're both enjoyable movies that I would watch when I can, comforting With some popcorn.
Speaker 2:Yeah, when I can comforting with some popcorn.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I pretty much said, like when my neighbor told to run a bunch of films where you can pretty much put it on, like you can enjoy what it is and like hell, it might even have like replay value to where, oh well, I'm so used to watching this film. I like watching it like it's like Django Unchained once again to where I said that. It's like Django Unchained once again to where I said that it's like very quotable. But I've seen it so many times like sometimes I just throw it in the background because sometimes I might be working on this podcast, like editing and whatnot, and then I hear one of my favorite quotables and then I'll just mouth it while I work on a podcast, just to make the workflow more enjoyable for me, you know right, yeah yeah, with that being said, um, we already gave it a rating, so we're just gonna go ahead and close it out uh, sebi, I do thank you for being on the show with me and I do thank you, the listener, for tuning in.
Speaker 2:Remember to stay nerdy and that great things are coming. Uh, go ahead and have yourself a good morning, good afternoon and good night and, most importantly, take it easy bye.
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