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Marvel Cinematic Universe: The Xtreme Review (Phase 5, Part 1)
Prepare for an exciting journey through the Marvel Cinematic Universe's Phase 5 as we dissect the latest blockbuster, "Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania." Ever wondered why Yellowjacket came back as MODOK or how Pym Particles are reshaping time travel? We promise you'll gain fresh insights into these intriguing plot choices. With standout performances from Jonathan Majors and Michelle Pfeiffer, and Paul Rudd's trademark humor, we challenge the critics who labeled this film as "mid."
Curious about Cassie Lang's potential as a Young Avenger and her evolving superhero dynamics with father Scott? Our discussion reveals how this unique family unit navigates the complexities of superhero life, all the while avoiding worn-out tropes of the past. We also compare the film's narrative to the likes of "Tron Legacy" and "Rick and Morty," and ponder Jeff Loveness' influence on the MCU's multiverse trajectory. Our analysis uncovers how Kang's storyline might open new avenues for fresh characters, all wrapped in a layer of anticipation and humor.
As we peer into the horizon of Marvel's future, we can't help but express our excitement for upcoming projects like Deadpool, Wolverine, and Thunderbolts. Yet, we also voice our concerns over potential creative constraints in Deadpool 3 and the rumored Serpent Society film. The superhero genre faces challenges, and we offer a candid take on whether a break could actually benefit the MCU. Join us for a spirited dialogue, where we navigate through the complexities of character development, industry dynamics, and the ever-evolving landscape of superhero storytelling.
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and fuck what those critics were saying. Agatha all along, that's coming up pretty good, like by episode five. Okay, like I don't hate it. But now I'm now even more interested. Huh, huh, hey, you didn't upload those yet, shit. Okay, what's up y'all? Welcome back to the Zone Podcast.
Speaker 1:We forgot to upload a compilation of the MCU Phase 5 so far and that would encompass from Ant-Man, quantumania and leading up to Deadpool and Wolverine. So here's a compilation of reviews that we made on some of the those that's in the mcu, mainly phase five so far, and for some reviews we already put out like either a solo review or like it's already part of another compilation, like with Deadpool, wolverine, so you can go ahead and see that and the X-Men Extreme Review, deadpool, um trilogy for Deadpool, wolverine, but uh, pretty sure we put out a solo review for Guardians of the Galaxy 3. As for the others, well, you'll just have to stay tuned and listen. So here is Ant-Man, quantumania, the Marbles, what did we have for television? Secret Evasion, loki, season 2, what If Season two? And echo. Now we're gonna wait until, I don't know, the end of 2025.
Speaker 1:To agatha all along, eyes of wakanda, uh, your friendly neighborhood spider-man, daredevil, born again, iron. And then what was it under movies? I know it was Thunderbolts. What if there was one more? Oh yeah, captain America, brave New World. So that's like two movies. I already did Deadpool, wolverine, so two movies and one, two, three, four television shows. So bad, not so bad.
Speaker 1:So, anyways, let's just go ahead and get on with the show. What's good nerds? It's jet black extreme and mirror jane with another episode of the zone podcast. And today's topic is ant-man and the Wasp Quantumania. And before y'all get started, I know we're late, I know, but we're catching up on phase five, so get ready for a bunch of reviews coming out. So, without further ado, let's go ahead and zone in on this one. Ah, quantumania, ah, quantum mania. People were saying that it was garbage, but I don't know, it wasn't as bad as I was told. I felt like it was one of those things where it's gonna be either hit or miss and for me it was kind of like somewhere in between. Most part it was not bad, but, um, at least in my opinion it was not bad. But you know how some folks are have their criticisms and they have like the long or short videos about their criticisms and that's cool you know, I respect that.
Speaker 1:But speaking for myself, yeah mid. It was kind of mid. It was not bad, just not a banger. Uh, mirajane, how you feel about?
Speaker 2:me, me. It was not me, it was actually good really. Yes, it was good yeah I mean, I'm not saying it's bad, but I'm just saying like I mean it made, though, in comparison to what's been being put out, is it really mid and okay? We can't compare it to Loki. We all know Loki's amazing okay but compare it to phase four. Okay. Compare it to Loki. We all know Loki's amazing Okay.
Speaker 1:But compare it to Phase 4. Okay, compare it to Phase 4.
Speaker 2:Is it mid?
Speaker 1:Nah yeah, I see your point.
Speaker 2:It's not, it's not mid, it's actually pretty good. We got great acting, absolutely amazing acting um. Jonathan may just did his thing as kane okay, yeah, yeah um, though those tears for like a few minutes.
Speaker 2:That crying face should have been a everlasting emoji. Forever, or mean forever, because who cries like that? He didn't have like the solo singular tear. It looked like he had possible snot about to run out of his nose but it just didn't come out. You know what I mean? He had that. Almost my girlfriend broke up with me crying face, but there's a possible chance we might get back together like that was the face he was giving, the emotions he was giving. Um, I think seeing janet van dyne, michelle michelle pfeiffer as janet van dyne was absolutely flawless as a character. She was funny, she was relatable, as the mom you know. So I think it was overall really good. I don't see how it could be mid. I don't see why people's opinions of it was so harsh.
Speaker 1:I don't know what they wanted I don't know like I think with some poses, like they're just looking For that Carbon copy Of the source material or at very least In their opinion or their perspective, a more airtight Story, I don't know, I don't know either.
Speaker 2:I think it was surprising To see Bill Murray Like we got some, we got some. Lord, like we got some, we got some OG actors in, we got some new actors and actresses in. Paul Rudd was absolutely hilarious. So, like I just don't know, I'm really confused. I was really confused by all the hate that Ant-Man and the Wasp got. Like I just was, because I don't know what, what, what's the next step? We get introduced to time travel, essentially right to to Pym Particles and how that works. We get more in-depth knowledge into it and I don't know what else could have been done better. I guess that's what I'm trying to figure out what could have been done, what do you think could have been done better?
Speaker 1:uh, well, I'm gonna be honest, like right off the bat, did they okay? In the first ant-man movie, yes, there was Yellowjacket and he was the villain of that and it was alright then. But did he really have to like, not only come back but as MODOK of all things, like okay, at first he was kind of intimidating, I'm gonna be honest. He was kind of even with the design. Okay, the design wasn't that bad, um, but up until he revealed his face. And then it just gave me, um, shark boy and lava girl vibes all over again, you know, with, um, what's his face, with the tb face and all that. Yeah, yeah, he was giving me those kind of vibes and I'm like okay, I mean I can move past that. But it was kind of part to where it just kind of seems like he was going out kind of pitiful at the end, I mean not before he, um, you know, switched sides and fought against king, not that part. But I'm talking about how he was defeated.
Speaker 1:And then Cassie came up. Darren Young, you can always change. How can I? I'm such a dick. There's never too late to be a dick. Really, really, really.
Speaker 2:Yes, really I will be honest, that joke was so hilarious to me, I think, with such an intensity, that the movie was kind of intense. Really, when you think about it, the idea surrounding behind it is really intense and I I actually really loved modok and and I loved it felt like an homage to Spy Kids. That role felt like it's kind of it definitely brings that nostalgia value.
Speaker 1:Wait, I remember. You know what I thought for the most part that Quantumina felt like. Have you watched Tron Legacy?
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:It pretty much played out the same way.
Speaker 2:I mean, I know key differences, I know, but pretty much played out the same way oh, oh, okay, uh, you know what, now that you say that, um, you break it, you make it, you, you make a solid point there. It did play dang yeah great comparison.
Speaker 1:I was like, look, I remember watching that. Um, look, I watched legacy like dozens of times. I like the film, don't get me wrong, but when you see it play out in quantum mania, I like it just feel like a reskin of it and I'm like, okay, on its own quantum mania is not bad, but at the same time, not only was it so familiar to what I'm used to, but also some parts where I'm like and could, the whole mode. I think that's what I'm saying. That's the one thing that could have been different. Um, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know exactly how, but it just wasn't doing it for me.
Speaker 1:All right, that was the main thing, other than that. Look the visuals of the? Um, quantum realm beautiful, I'm not doubting that. I like um gentora and laserhead, whatever his name was. Lord Cryler was funny, you know, even though he was like that double agent type dude. You know, like in Toronto Legacy, the dude with the white hair, the main character goes to him to help, but he betrays them more. Yeah, played out the same way, what else?
Speaker 2:You know what was similar too, now that you brought it up, because I did not pay attention to it and now my my brain's like racing the, the, um, it was similar to when, like towards the end, where, uh, the, the music was like very similar to tron's legacy ending, like they both had an army, they both were trying to escape, like if the sim. The ending was really similar you're right, because I didn't think about it um, and just how, like when you, when kane being trapped in the quantum realm and he's actually trying to get out, it's very similar to tron legacies ending. Dang, yeah, dang. You might have just changed my opinion and I'm kind of mad right now.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry no, you're not. You're absolutely not dang, because it's like. Now I'm looking, now I'm like re-watching it in my head and I'm like there's so many similarities, even like, just even like the disappearance of the parent right, like that happened, and because her mom, oh man.
Speaker 1:You know what? I'll just say this Shout out to Little Platoon. He reminded me when I was watching his critique on Quantumania, Like oh, you know what it did play out the same way.
Speaker 2:Shit. Well, shout out to him. But also I'm a little angry because you might have just ruined my whole entire opinion on quantumania, and I'm mad because that that took what 10 minutes. That's terrible, oh my god. Because I really did enjoy it, I think because I did go to I don't know if you saw it in theaters, but I did go to theaters to watch it.
Speaker 1:So oh, disney plus yeah, it's.
Speaker 2:I think sometimes we take for granted the ability to go see these movies in theaters like hold on.
Speaker 1:To be fair, I wanted to, but I just didn't have the um availability at the time, so I got to him when I could we're gonna start making this.
Speaker 2:No, no, no. This is gonna start. If I have to drive eight hours to make sure we go watch these movies in theaters, we're gonna watch it because it's a different. I think it's a different vibe, I think the excitement you know what, though, what I do?
Speaker 1:plan on watching madame webb in theaters you better.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, that trailer is sick yeah I it.
Speaker 1:It made me excited I mean like once again, I know some people gonna be like oh, it's gonna flop, it's not gonna do. I'm like you know what? Fuck it. I will see for myself Because honestly it just seems intriguing on its own, you know, like the spider ladies and shit, yeah.
Speaker 2:I bet it does seem intriguing. I mean like what can? I say man, I'm listening, I was waiting.
Speaker 1:I'm waiting for you to flesh that out, you know. No, no, that was it.
Speaker 2:That was it I can't even lie, though I, I am excited to uh, see dakota johnson as madame webb. I think she's gonna do great. I can't even lie. Um, you know, emma roberts is in it too, so I'm excited for that. And then, who is it? Sydney Sweeney is also in it, and so they're rolling out. I don't want to say the red carpet, but I'm going to say the purple carpet, or maybe even the pink carpet, if you will. So I'm excited for Madam Web, I'm excited to see these girls put on an amazing performance. And no offense, I just hope that it's no comparison to that Harley Quinn movie, because goddamn birds of prey.
Speaker 1:Oh my God. I just thought of something. If Quantumania played out the same way as Tron Legacy, does that mean MODOK is their Rensler?
Speaker 2:Oh my god, yes, oh, oh, you're not wrong. Oh, look at the. And the color scheme matches the color scheme. I hate you. I hate you so much right now, because now I'm being Because I drew the Spy Kids reference right and I was cool with that. I was cool with MODOK being referenced, but now it's just like no, no, no, it was still funny. No, your morals, hold your standpoint. It was still funny.
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, like, okay, he's like the funnier Rensler, so I'm like I'll give him that.
Speaker 2:See, he is the funnier, dang it. You're right, he is Rensler. God damn it. You know what we just gotta do? A whole entire theory on tron legacy and how the worlds are connected. It would make sense, though time travel variant lines make sense. They're just playing out a whole different story with the same ending.
Speaker 1:God, that's terrible all right, but for real, though, speaking of which, let's just go ahead and dive into the story.
Speaker 1:So, essentially, with our boy, scott lang.
Speaker 1:He's, this not exactly a universal hero, but more like people now know him well enough to be like, hey, it's spider-man, like well, close enough, and you know he has his memoir and he's married. I don't think he's married, but like at least in a relationship with hope, and you know things are good. But then he gets a call from the um jail saying that, oh, cassie got locked up, and like what you got locked up for, I'm like, oh well, you know um political activism, used um pym technology to um strunk a car, that um cop car, and like to be honest, cassie has some points though, like the fact that, okay, here's my main thing, here's what I like about cassie, though to an extent to where you know how there's this trope, to where, oh, daddy's this big time superhero, blah, blah, you don't got time for me. But with cassie she did the opposite, where she was like, dad, you're a big time superhero, you should be helping people. And he's like no, you know, don't y'all want me to stick around, you know, be there.
Speaker 2:Like no, do your thing like she did kick him out. She was like, man, get out of here, go be that superhero that you know you want to be.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I was like no, we're good like I mean, I think the difference is too is that she also had an amazing support system, like she had uh, hope his girlfriend, she's there. She had the grandparents they're there. So I think it's different when you have. I think they kind of broke that trope a little bit because they made sure she had a support system. So her saying, like nah, dad, I don't had a support system. So her saying like, nah, dad, I don't not, that, I don't want you, but you can go.
Speaker 2:I'm a big girl now, so I'm I'm good, you know yeah, and plus she did, you know, she went through the snap, yeah. So, and I'm glad they didn't do that trope, I'm glad they didn't do the whole trauma oh my god, he was gone for five years. I'm sorry, I know that's, I know that sounds terrible, but I'm glad they didn't do that trope because it's kind of been, it's kind of been done, it's kind of overdone at this point.
Speaker 1:I feel like that would water down Cassie's own character development. So I'm kind of glad they didn't do that either.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, I agree with that. What I also liked about Cassie was that she was very witty.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Her comebacks were absolutely hilarious and we know Scott as the person who's witty and he has the banter. But I'll be honest with you, I felt like Cassie held her own and kind of at some point overshadowed.
Speaker 1:But I'll be honest with you, I felt like Cassie held her own and kind of at some overshadowed, like she was definitely held her own yeah, so yeah, I definitely like Cassie now that she's like growing up and she's gonna be one of the Avengers like ah shit, I didn't watch the Marvels yet, but a good thing that's coming out on Disney Plus on February 7th. It's one of those. Once again, I know, I know should have seen it in theaters, but I missed it.
Speaker 2:Hey, I'm not going to get on you about that one. I missed it. I ran into some scheduling issues myself. Yeah.
Speaker 1:But point being is that when I approach on quantumania I'm sorry I'm brain farting right now I kind of forgot my point um, what cassie I I did like on, did like when they did where. Oh yeah, I was saying with the Marvels, where, I know, post credit scene, miss Marvel recruits Kate Bishop for the Young Avengers, and you know, it's only the entire time before they get Cassie and all the other young Avengers. That's what I was getting at. Yeah, that's what I remember, but, yeah, like, personally, I think she would be a great addition to that team. And you know, here's my thing, though.
Speaker 1:And, mirajan, I know how you feel about this whole. I don't care about this MCU. And, mirajan, I know how you feel about this whole. I don't count with this MCU talk. But, um, honestly, with the Young Avengers, if it happens to be mostly girls, I'm cool with it, like, as long as it's not like one of those things when, okay, y'all are putting these Lady Superheroes on this Pedestal and Trying to dumb down and Make the Male characters obsolete at the Same time.
Speaker 1:I don't like that shit. It's like you don't have to put down one side Just to elevate another. That's what I don't like, that shit. It's like you don't have to put down one side just to um elevate another. That's what I don't like. That's what I like about um quantumania, to where it didn't felt like with cassie. She was like high-roading um her father just for no reason. It was more like she was high-roading him within good reason, like there was this, you know, in multiple cases where this guy was like man, don't you want to go home? Like we don't have to worry about all this shit, and Cass is like no, because this could be a potential threat to our world and I think we should handle it before it gets worse. But you've seen the ending to where you know. The Council of Kings got together and went oh well, ding-dong, the witch is dead. Now we can go plot it.
Speaker 2:That part was so funny.
Speaker 1:You know, start this whole multiversal war, this incursion, Whatever. But oh man, okay, speaking of which, let's talk about Kang. Like you said, johnson Major's Performance as Kang Was really good. My favorite part was when the backstory with him and Janet, and essentially he was trying to build his machine so he can escape the quantum realm. But at the last minute Janet touched the multiversal core and she saw the memories that he had and oh, it turns out that he's this monstrous conqueror and what not. And he was like yeah, yeah, I got no shame in my game and that's who I am, so you're going to help me finish this thing, or what? And she was like, no, I don't think I will. And he was like Janet, what are you doing? What are you saying? And then she was going to run away and I was like give it to me, give it to me, janet. And then she was going to run away and I was like give it to me, give it to me, janet, listen, listen that moment.
Speaker 1:Honestly, I actually ended up laughing. I was like, hey yo, I know it's not funny, but the way he said it just kind of tickled something in my brain. I just like the way he said it though pickled something in my brain.
Speaker 2:I just like the way he said it, though I'll be honest with you, I don't think Jane really wanted to run away. I'm just saying like until that moment.
Speaker 1:Hold on that one part where I forgot where it's from exactly, but you probably know what I'm talking about. It's a famous meme, that one part where that lady was like running away, like why are you running? Why are you running?
Speaker 2:oh my god, that is describes the exact yep, that's it like. The other thing that was interesting and I also thought was kind of funny about their relationship was that this now, mind you, she just really had got lonely because she decided to help a complete stranger. I just want to highlight the fact that she had no idea who this person was at all. Well, she was just like alright, I'll help you, like what you? Just you just don't ask no questions, none. And I know kang was like you know not, he didn't quote unquote, have his uh memories, or he seemed to be just this innocent traveler who's lost in time or whatever. Right, like I get it. But she didn't think to go and tell nobody. Like, hey, bruh, this dude just landed here. I don't know what he doing.
Speaker 1:I mean, keep in mind that at the time she did not know the layout that well, so it was more about okay, um, I layout that well. So it was more about okay, um, I fucked up royally and I need to run away. So eventually she probably found some other people and it was almost like she had nobody, uh, before kang. So it kind of makes sense where it's like, oh well, you know, if I knew people, even then it was like, okay, they both was like there like at the same time, like they happened to um, meet each other, uh, crash landing into the quantum room at around the same time. So it's like it's a matter of coincidence. It's like, oh well, you know, since we're stuck in this situation together, we might as well work together to get out of here, right? So yeah, but you know, it's kind of easy For him to be like, okay, as long as I don't Tell her that I'm actually this Megalominical Conqueror, then I think she'll be Willing to help me out, like you know.
Speaker 1:I mean, I know the way out. It's just, you know, I just need to fix my ship, so you Help me fix my ship, then we both get out of here. But I'm not going to tell you what I'm going to do afterwards and I was like, hey, you want to get out of here, right? Stop asking me more questions. Stop asking me questions. That's how we deal with my fucking.
Speaker 1:You want to get out of here. You want to get out of here. You want to ask me questions.
Speaker 2:Essentially, k is just holding her hostage in a way, just like listen, you, you want to get out of here, I want to get out of here. So so what's up? Is you gonna keep asking questions or not? Yeah, like, but I think, I think, uh, that was a good point in their relationship to highlight, like. I guess my point I'm making is that why wasn't she looking for other people? And I understand, because she was there first, but then after him, like, yes, I understand she runs away, she's trying to I get that part, but before that, you wasn't thinking like maybe I could venture out and find some people? And then, even when you meet him, why isn't the suggestion let's like, I know the focus is getting out of here, but let's maybe if there's others like you and me there's not the equivalent of two people in this space why not venture out? Let's see who else is out here. Maybe there's someone else out here who's just as lost and just as stuck, you know, um that's just the thing.
Speaker 1:I feel like there was like this tunnel vision, because it was like, essentially, they were on the assumption that they were the only two there, so that just never came across their mind. But uh, hold on for one moment, what's up? Tuck.
Speaker 3:Yo, what's goody Um we're doing good Tuck. Professor Tuck, uchiha Namikaze, the third.
Speaker 1:Oh my god.
Speaker 2:Namikaze.
Speaker 3:Yes, you know.
Speaker 1:You know the third.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, oh wait, has your birthday happened yet?
Speaker 3:Not till the 19th.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:I'm the black flash of the leaf village. Well, professor Tuck, you should be on site Cause I'm a nigga.
Speaker 1:Well, today's topic is quantumania. Uh, we were. I was just telling on mirror jane how I was saying that quantumania was it's not bad, but it's kind of mid. But my main thing is um bro, if you watch tron legacy that literally quantumania literally plays out like Tron Legacy.
Speaker 3:True, yeah, that's a good analogy for it. But, Disney will find a way to Disney stuff.
Speaker 1:Oh shit, I forgot Tron Legacy was a Disney. Oh Funny, alright, but anyways, we were talking about how okay. Other than that, visually it was beautiful. The character performance was good, cassie was good, kang's performance was good and I was good. Kang's performance was good and I was going to get to the point, you know.
Speaker 3:The artist formerly known as Kang.
Speaker 1:Oh, right, right, right right.
Speaker 3:He ain't Kang no more. He's done with it.
Speaker 1:But now you know what the funny thing is If this was his last appearance, well, aside from Loki, obviously. But if it was his last appearance, well, aside from Loki, obviously. But, um, if it was his last appearance as Kang, then I'm like him getting obliviated. When, you know, on Third Act, and he got um kind of oblivious, you know, got sucked into that machine, I'm like that's kind of an appropriate way for him to get his exit, you know. So that way, um, some new meat will come in and be like Alright, so I'm Kang now.
Speaker 3:So yeah, insert another black dude.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and even then, I would have said like okay, since, let's say Hypothetically, even if they decide to do away with the whole Kang the Conqueror Story a lot, it could have been like okay, so Kang the Conqueror Story line. It could have been like, okay, so Kane the Conqueror got beaten by Ant-Man Victor Timely, he's Just doing his own thing in his own Timeline. So, as far as we know the events of Loki we will Talk about the events of Loki when we do the review the events of Loki could have altered Things to where okay, but the time might not even End up becoming Kang the Conqueror or he who remains, or one of those Powerful variants. But you know, just this guy that just happened to know a little bit about Time travel or time manipulation.
Speaker 3:Let me tell you where they messed up at, though. Do this make sense? Kang the Conqueror was defeated by Ant-Man.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Man.
Speaker 1:Well, hold on.
Speaker 2:To be fair.
Speaker 1:But, no, no no, Hold on To be fair though.
Speaker 3:Is Kang the Conqueror still, but wait, wait, wait. To be fair, though, there's a lot of but wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 1:To be fair, there's a lot of fans that was like wait, what if Ant-Man Blew Thanos' ass and just expanded? That's a fact.
Speaker 2:Excuse me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there was a lot of fans that were saying that.
Speaker 3:Ms, frizzle style Like right up.
Speaker 2:Could we have just went through the mouth? You know why did it have to be the anal cavity? I'm just, I'm just, that's the easiest way.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying that shit. I'm like, hey, so if that's good enough for most of the fans, I'm like the fact that Kane got snuffed up by Ant-Man. I'm like you know what?
Speaker 3:now that I'm thinking about it, now that I'm considering it not the ass part, you sure I'm considering just Ant-Man and his powers. If Marvel was like Dark, he was just crawling people's ears and explode their brain. You know what I mean. Easy, easy win.
Speaker 1:Or you could be like that one dude from season 3.
Speaker 3:Nostril. No, don't tell me that. Don't tell me that I ain't watched season 3 yet.
Speaker 1:Oh you.
Speaker 3:I actually just finished season 2.
Speaker 1:Okay, let me just put you like this Wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 3:Didn't you tell me after season 2 to watch Something else and then season 3? Oh, I'm glad I finished season 2 and didn't watch season 3 yet.
Speaker 1:Okay, cool, cool. But I'll just tell you this much it happens on the first episode of season 3 and when you see it I'm like why You're going to be like, of all places.
Speaker 3:I'm actually watching um. I'm going to start Gen V tomorrow.
Speaker 1:Tonight.
Speaker 3:I'm watching Hasman Hotel. Hasman Hotel.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 3:How many episodes? Is it Eight? Is it like an hour long each?
Speaker 1:no 23 minutes.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, I'm finishing. Yeah, I'm finishing it.
Speaker 1:I just thought I should mention that.
Speaker 3:But yeah, I'll be ready for a review on it, but yeah oh, it's good.
Speaker 1:Oh, I can't wait to talk about it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, as soon as you said musicals, I'm in Boom music. Speaking of music, Steve from American Dad, Isn't he amazing?
Speaker 1:When he did that whole Usher cover.
Speaker 3:The Trapped in the closet. Yeah, wow. But yeah, I think it would be shitty if we end on Ant-Man defeating Kane the Conqueror. That's like Crazy. What I like was that they don't Vend on different aspects of the universe Like, for example, the food Just exploring through the different foods. That they don't vent on different aspects of the universe Like, for example, the food Just exploring through the different foods that they was eating and whatnot. That was pretty cool.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, yeah, because I remember they were at this like tavern or cantina and whatnot, Almost like some Star Wars vibes going on when they were meeting Lord Cryler. Yeah.
Speaker 3:And when he pulled up in there, he said how y'all know each other? Oh, we was lovers.
Speaker 2:Listen that man said that with no shame.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was all in her guts for like a decade man, but she talked about you, bro. Bro, that's crazy, but we've been fighting on sight. What? As soon as I heard that? As soon as I heard that, bro, you are not my arch enemy.
Speaker 2:Why arch enemy?
Speaker 3:Hey, it's over with.
Speaker 1:Hey bro, I heard so much about you man, look here, that's some crazy pussy. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like I heard, so much about you, man.
Speaker 1:Look here, that's some crazy pussy, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Like I was in that shit, like you know that's a story For off the podcast.
Speaker 3:Wow, yeah, I'm bested now.
Speaker 2:That's definitely. That was a wild time that brought back a wild memory, never mind. The point I'm making is Bill Murray was absolutely hilarious and a thug for the way he said that he was for sure not groundhog day what not having the ribs? I was like you know, what low key that was a ribs oh yeah, for sure that's a what you know. Who's an unsung hero and one of my favorite characters from this movie, veb. Veb was my favorite character From Batman.
Speaker 1:With the hands like no, no, not hands on. He was like I have holes, now yes.
Speaker 2:He was so excited About having holes and then I just, I don't know for some odd reason, but I love the idea of him and the goop and him having and being able to allow people to hear transversal languages through drinking his goop bro, like when I, when he was about to pop off, I was like thinking, bro, this dude reminded me of the spot from beyond the spider verse.
Speaker 1:I'm like, oh shit, the potential on this guy now exactly my point.
Speaker 2:He has so much potential and I just can't. I know we probably. I pray we do get to be able to see him again, see more of him, because he was definitely one of my favorites.
Speaker 1:But god darn it, veb veb definitely, uh stole the show for me I feel like, depending on where they're going with it in secret wars, I feel like that'll be like a way of okay, now that um kane the conqueror is gone and the Quantum Realm is probably going to be under new management and it's going to be all different and shit In case Kane the Conqueror is fucking things up on the higher realm where Earth and whatnot. Okay, the gang got to retreat through a strategic escape and whatnot. So we got to go into the quantum realm and regroup and strategize.
Speaker 3:What did the movie remind y'all of?
Speaker 1:Other than Tron Legacy.
Speaker 3:It reminded me of Rick and Morty.
Speaker 1:To a degree? Ooh, the fucking car battery episode. Do a degree oh, the fucking with the car battery episode.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and you know what's crazy? Jeff Loveness is a writer on Rick and Morty who also was a writer on the movie.
Speaker 2:Oh, that one. And he's writing Kane Dynasty, who also was a writer on the movie. Oh, that wouldn't have been.
Speaker 3:And he's writing Kane Dynasty oh. And he's friends with the dude that wrote Loki and Secret War. Well, writing Secret Wars, but you know.
Speaker 2:Oh, I was going to say wait, Then I must have definitely missed something.
Speaker 3:Writing Secret Wars. Nevertheless, that's junk. Crazy, how you know. Oh, I was going to say wait, and then I must have definitely missed something Right in Secret Wars. Nevertheless, that's jump. Crazy how you connect, it's like the red string effect.
Speaker 1:So you're telling me that we just watched a two-hour Rick and Morty movie.
Speaker 3:For sure.
Speaker 2:Wow, wow. Okay, I'm the youngster, I don't watch much Rick and Morty. I haven't seen anything past season 3, first of all, let me tell you something.
Speaker 3:Muffin, muffin Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something about this. Hey, when dolls take over the world, I'm gonna be friends With all the dolls, cause ain't no way. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something about this. Hey, when dogs take over the world, I'm going to be friends with all the dogs, because ain't no way I'm going to get snipped, ain't no?
Speaker 2:way. All right, Drake, for all the dogs I see.
Speaker 3:Oh, for sure Because ain't no way they're going to snip me because they got snipped. That's why I would never snip my dog because of that episode.
Speaker 1:You know what? Let me go give my dog some extra dog treats.
Speaker 2:I'll just get a girl. I'll just get a girl. At that point, no thanks.
Speaker 1:My dog's a girl so I'm like, so we cool right.
Speaker 3:Tell them I'm cool.
Speaker 2:Tell them I've treated you fairly Forever. We slept together for 20 years. What are you talking about, hey?
Speaker 1:you remember when I gave you the scraps Off my booty?
Speaker 3:Anna.
Speaker 2:You know what? From now on, you getting steak A1 steak A1 day worth.
Speaker 3:You better be careful about that Jet Black. They gonna be like no, no, no, you good, now when I finish eating, you get my strap.
Speaker 2:That's so messed up, bruh, I'm gonna be so mad.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna be so mad.
Speaker 1:But no, I gave, I don't give a like like oven baked chicken and shit, Like I mean not the whole chicken, but you know like oh, oh, oh, oh, no, not the whole thing. So what you saying is your dog eating good For real.
Speaker 2:I was like dang he going to like Walmart buying that rotisserie chicken?
Speaker 1:Nah, not the whole thing, but you know like a drum or a breast or whatnot.
Speaker 3:you know like yeah, just gnawing on. It fell off the bone, Damn.
Speaker 1:I made sure I found we put like onion in like the season and all that yeah it was pretty good I really appreciated it.
Speaker 3:It was not the best Marvel movie ever, but way better than like anything and I mean absolutely anything to do with my arch enemy, oh don't you start, don't you dare he who must not be named, and I don't mean lord voldemort why do you?
Speaker 2:why do you hate peter quill? What did he?
Speaker 1:who must not be named?
Speaker 3:Okay, I apologize, don't say the Dark Lord's name like that the Dark Star Lord.
Speaker 1:Tucker's like don't you ever mention that name again?
Speaker 2:Mr Quillipin, the third.
Speaker 3:Well, yeah, I can't stand that man.
Speaker 2:It was a good show that's what's going on your shirt. It was a good show.
Speaker 3:I do say that it was a good show until they ruined it with Peter freaking Quill and I'ma just be saying, oh god, tuck no that's no, no Tuck we had a whole another movie because of him. A whole another movie. It would have been a classic if he would have just did what he had to do. Forget that girl wow you should have been on your Sigma grind set Peter what does Dumbledore say for the greater good?
Speaker 3:for the greater good. Hey, you really have Dorsey for the greater good, for the greater good, hey, it's what?
Speaker 2:You really have a strong. We're going to have to unpack this because I feel like there's a deeper therapeutic reason why you don't like Peter Quill. I feel, like there's something deeper here.
Speaker 3:It's as deep as it gets.
Speaker 1:I hate his face.
Speaker 3:I hate his gloves. I hate his gloves because they black. Most of all, I hate that black ass, wesley Snipes. He saved Marvel and he shouldn't have, or we wouldn't have had this motherfucking Peter Quinn.
Speaker 2:What is that? You know what?
Speaker 3:it's provocative. It gets the people going shut up.
Speaker 2:Nobody knows what it means no one knows what you mean. That's what that means. No one knows what you mean. I think I have a headache.
Speaker 3:I was literally Crying, laughing.
Speaker 2:And I need a Tylenol.
Speaker 3:Wait, well, yeah, the music was good too. It was. I like that, you know. What does that remind me of? You know, when everybody come together, it reminded me low key Of um, when everybody came together for Thanos On a lower scale though.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:With not that many superstars, really no superstars. I mean.
Speaker 2:Um. Well okay, no superstar.
Speaker 1:I mean it's.
Speaker 2:Ant-Man Well, okay.
Speaker 3:What do you mean? No superstars? No, no, really superstars. You know, captain America wasn't there, iron man wasn't there, loki wasn't there. That's what you, no superstar.
Speaker 2:Because it's called Ant. It's about Ant-Man.
Speaker 3:Okay, okay, okay. And then Civil War. A whole bunch of Superstars was there, right?
Speaker 2:Because it was a Civil War.
Speaker 3:Look, all I'm saying is, whenever you got a whole bunch of Superstars, it's good for them to have a cameo. They could have had Loki come for a little bit.
Speaker 2:That would have totally messed up the whole thing. And that's what Loki do mess shit up.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:I don't know how he would fit in though.
Speaker 3:I don't know. I would have took somebody from Wakanda, the bald head lady. I would have took, uh, somebody from wakanda, the bald head lady.
Speaker 2:I would have anybody uh what's his?
Speaker 1:name with the wings namor, like literally anybody namor no okay, I thought you were gonna say falcon, but to be fair name no, no, not falcon, no, no, no, I'm gonna say um to be fair, nam Namor no, not Falcon, I'm going to say to be fair, namor has wings on his ankles and he can fight with those.
Speaker 2:That's true. Okay, not Falcon. You know what? I agree with that. He a B-list.
Speaker 3:Is it wrong that I don't like?
Speaker 2:Falcon. Is that bad? You know it's not bad.
Speaker 3:It's because His parents had a real good marriage. Really, it's not bad. It's because his parents had a real good marriage. Really, that's really what it is.
Speaker 2:Because his he doesn't have enough character development. Is what you're saying.
Speaker 3:No, it's because his name is Clarence.
Speaker 1:Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2:Alright, alright, b-rabbit, alright. Oh my God, when did we start watching 8 Miles?
Speaker 3:We don't take him serious enough.
Speaker 2:That's true. That's true. I don't take him seriously.
Speaker 3:He had a whole series and he still ain't taking it serious. That's why they didn't give him a movie. They already knew.
Speaker 1:Well, hold on. They are working on a movie, but that's not going to be until next year.
Speaker 3:Man, that movie ain't coming to fruition.
Speaker 1:Why are you putting that in the ground like that? Hold on, that's funny.
Speaker 3:It's not going to have good beauty.
Speaker 1:No hold on. It's funny that you said that. Because you do have a point, because they just said in recent news that oh, apparently, the say that talk. Because you do have a point, because they just said in recent news that oh, apparently, um, the serpent society supposed to be in this shit. Well, it doesn't make sense to me because I was under the impression that the leader was going to be the villain, but whatever. But point being, the surface society is going to be taken out of the film and I'm like okay, if y'all like making like major changes to script already. This is not going to be good.
Speaker 2:I mean that could go into the fact that they just need to take a break from making. They need to take a break from making superhero movies. We need a break.
Speaker 1:Honestly, I feel like that was what they were trying to do this year. Notice how Deadpool 3, which is coming out in July, will be the first MCU movie that we're going to get this year.
Speaker 2:And hopefully the last.
Speaker 3:I know it's not, but that ain't going to be the best selling movie ever. Well, hold on, that's what you need to do.
Speaker 1:I really want to believe that, but you know what got me spooked? What? The fact that ever since the SAG-AFTRA thing, that Ryan Reynolds can't improvise his lines anymore.
Speaker 2:Oh yes.
Speaker 1:I'm like no no, no, no. They said that in Deadpool 3, you cannot improvise in Deadpool 3.
Speaker 3:I know you lying.
Speaker 1:Why? I don't know what do writers have against Ryan Reynolds?
Speaker 2:What do they have against you know what?
Speaker 3:They will just change the script.
Speaker 2:You know what Exactly? That's not improvising, that's making changes on the fly. You know you. You have quelled my anger, professor tuck you have quelled my anger, because I know, oh, he said some gold.
Speaker 3:Rewrite that stat right now right now because I'm gonna be honest with you not everyone's a great writer.
Speaker 2:Not everything that you write is funny, and that's okay. But if an actor has the ability to improvise on the fly, make it funny. It sticks, it lands. Not only that, it's making the movie better yeah, is that what's the point?
Speaker 3:is that unique to just this movie, jet black, or is it like movies moving forward?
Speaker 1:uh, I don't know about movies going forward. I only heard about deadpool 3. Definitely, he cannot improvise on this because that's dumb yeah, that's one thing I'm like when comedians go into movies.
Speaker 3:They improvise they know what's funny and what's not funny, they know what's hit or miss, so that would definitely make all movies suck in the future.
Speaker 2:I know why it's because Ryan Reynolds says the things that everyone else is afraid to make jokes of so that sound like a comedian, but nah you know how they try to cancel comedians just about anything at this point make jokes of.
Speaker 1:So that sounds like a comedian, but nah, you know how they try to cancel comedians for just about anything at this point.
Speaker 3:Man, they can't cancel Ryan Reynolds he's uncancellable like Dave Chappelle.
Speaker 2:Listen, that man is almost a billionaire, so fuck with it. I mean.
Speaker 3:And he got Mint Mobile. He don't care about that, bruh.
Speaker 2:Mint Mobile is his. Don't care about that, bruh.
Speaker 3:Mint Mobile is his baby. I watched his commercial yesterday. You can have as many phones as you want for five dollars.
Speaker 1:But no, for real, though, it does have a point to where. What I noticed about society is that once you have a certain amount of capital, they'll just let you do whatever the fuck you want. I mean, yeah, they'll just let you do whatever the fuck you want. It's like. I mean, like yeah, they'll probably be like, oh well, we can't have you in movies or TV shows anymore, but like, okay, whatever, I got millions of dollars, I could just go into early retirement shit or he'll be like you know what, I'll just make my own and buy Tyler Perry's studio or something and he'll have blackjack and hookers and cocaine excuse me or something, and it'll have blackjack and boogers, yup and cocaine, excuse me.
Speaker 3:Oh, you're riding a white pony, son.
Speaker 1:Ryan Reynolds could be like nah, i'ma do my own thing.
Speaker 3:Then you got Deadpool Productions. He done bought the rights to Deadpool Like nah.
Speaker 1:Hey, you know what?
Speaker 3:They'll sell it on cheap too. They'll little cheap too.
Speaker 1:They were like yeah, you can have I feel like, even though I can understand that, oh, they didn't know that it was gonna be this booming uh well, at least during the first three phases but I still think it was kind of a dumb move in hindsight for marvel studios and whatnot to give out the rights to shit like the hulk and-Man and all that shit. And then, as soon as they start the MCU, it turns out people like the structure of the MCU from the first one to three phases and they're like, hey, so can we get those rights back? We didn't know that we were going to pop off this hard, so I really didn't feel like nah, nah, man, you're not gonna. Um, I don't know. It's like if they uh get way to rise to deadpool, I'm like fuck. Um, well, there goes your x-men line the executives are dumb.
Speaker 3:they need to look at anime and follow suit what you need is fan service.
Speaker 2:I'm so glad you brought that up. Fan service Wait a minute Wait.
Speaker 1:No listen.
Speaker 2:I don't mean fan service like booties.
Speaker 3:I mean, yeah, I do you do? I was going to say, because that's just I'm also being like you need to take what your fans want into account. I give you an example you get Ryan Reynolds together and you say, hey, I need Wolverine. I don't need just any Wolverine, I need the Wolverine. And then that man to come out of retirement. And, in a similar fashion, we need a blade movie with the OG Blade and the new Blade bringing them into fruition. It could be something similar to like you know how like Spider-Man was.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:It can be similar to that, and if they do this, I want all my money. Copyright by Professor Tuck Uchida. I forgot my name for a second Uchida Namikaze, the third, and if you need my legal name, just get me after this Jesus Christ but, you did brought up one point where Disney should take a note from anime, because the creator of Mobile Suit Gundam, yoshiyuki Tomino.
Speaker 1:he said not too long ago that the anime industry would be wise to avoid the mistakes that Disney is making, and I'm like, hmm.
Speaker 3:Don't give them too much, too soon Now that may be tripping too, making us wait 18 years for a second season of everything.
Speaker 2:I don't mind, though I appreciate the waiting.
Speaker 3:It's too long, but you know how it used to be. You get your big budget movies in the summertime, summer blockbusters that give you anticipation.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they need to go back to building the anticipation for movies, because now it's just like we just expect them to come out and then we're so ready. It's like people haven't even had a chance to like breathe from the last one. They're just ready to critique the next one. They're not even like okay, is it gonna be good? They're just like, oh, I can't wait to see how bad this is gonna be yeah, they, they messed their money up by getting too much money.
Speaker 3:That's disney in a nutshell. You, you're gonna, you're gonna, have a trickle down. If you, if you, uh, economics 101, you got trickle down economics. You give them too much of something, it's gonna be worthless. Right now, you, you hit us with disney plus boom. Now we got a place where we can watch all your specific stuff at a specific date and time. You need to back up to what you was doing before. During covid, there was releasing movies right home ticket. There's releasing them for 20.
Speaker 1:You can see this, uh oh yeah, premiere access for like 30 dollars, right? Well, it depends on the movie.
Speaker 3:What was that movie? That remake Dang I know this movie I watch it Da da da da da da da da, Mulan Dang, I couldn't think of Mulan. That's when it became prevalent, right, when they dropped Mulan and the price of it went up. And then Mulan started selling like hotcakes, because who don't like Mulan? Right, and it was a good remake.
Speaker 2:It was decent.
Speaker 3:It was a decent remake.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to lie to you, though. Asian America band together, they said we're going to make this movie a hit. That's literally like I was watching okay, I was watching reality tv a lot. Anyway, there was this show with labor of love.
Speaker 2:No, no no right, but I did watch something similar. But that's also not the point. The point is, the point I'm making is that they band together for that movie, they band together for Mulan. They all was like we're gonna buy it, we're gonna sit at home, we're gonna buy for our friends, we're buying for our families it. It was definitely a collective effort and it wasn't just because, of course, it's an Asian movie, but because that's how you band together and support a movie and I approve, I honestly approve. It was great. I love Mulan myself. Are we still?
Speaker 1:talking about the live action.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm talking about both, because the live action was decent, the music was not hitting, it was not there, but I wish they would have kept the original score, because that music, oh that music yeah, I wish they could have kept that. I ain't gonna lie, I'm never gonna catch my breath sake about it. Those who knew me. Boy, was I a fool in school for cutting gym lord.
Speaker 2:Jesus that ain't gonna lie. That line hit me hard because I used to cut jim. That line just rings. So true to me. But you know, I kind of want to touch on this real quick before I forget. Um, when you mentioned that movies should take a trope from anime, if you saw the horror movie Happy Death Day, you essentially saw the anime ReZero.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay.
Speaker 3:I didn't see it, but I did see ReZero.
Speaker 2:You see Happy Death Day. I was literally in theaters watching Happy Death Day. Did they literally just copy re-zero and make it into a movie? It's the exact same. The only difference is the characters are female and the fact that, uh, she doesn't feel the pain that, uh, the main character in ReZero feels. Those are the main differences and, of course, like the killer aspect. But I just wanted to bring that up because I don't think many people caught that and if they did, it was like six years ago. So Happy Death Day is literally just a carbon copy of ReZero. So I can't say that movies aren't taking tips from anime. They are. You just gotta catch it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, is there anything else on quantum media that y'all want to talk about?
Speaker 2:I don't have anything else.
Speaker 3:His wife was dying.
Speaker 2:She's not going there.
Speaker 3:Why she couldn't hold it down.
Speaker 2:She thought she was going to die there.
Speaker 3:So she couldn't hold it down like he was holding it down. He's going to have to a lot of times. Yeah, I had a couple of prostitutes. Yeah, I had a couple of prostitutes over the years. He wasn't even ready for a relationship. He was thinking about her the whole time. This dude done built a whole machine thinking about her. And what was she doing? Getting tooted and booted. They like toot it. They like boot it.
Speaker 2:I know you can't see me, but my mouth dropped. I can't believe. You just said that.
Speaker 3:I'm really upset with that. That's messed up. It's sort of like it reminds you of Papoose, don't it?
Speaker 2:oh, don't bring up my boy, pap no it's parallels. It brings up similarities man, I just couldn't believe that I was so mad. Oh my god holding it down and the first thing you do?
Speaker 1:no. And the funny thing is I saw that one video with um remy and papu's on. They were talking about oh, I'm down for my man, I'll do whatever it take for my man, but and then look what happened and my man.
Speaker 3:Thank you to my man, Psyche.
Speaker 2:Bruh.
Speaker 3:He revealed that joint like all the way open.
Speaker 2:That's crazy. That rap battle was insane.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's crazy, bruh.
Speaker 1:Speaking of rap battles, and how about this current rap battle that's been going on lately?
Speaker 3:how y'all feeling about that you already know how that music is we not doing this?
Speaker 2:no, no not doing this, not doing this, not doing this with you, you know what get up on your good foot, get up on your good foot. Oh, I got two good feet For this.
Speaker 3:Megan ain't got but one. Yeah, apparently it's a big foot. Exactly, apparently it's a big foot. You know what Big foot did? It was premiered At number one. Guess what it did After that Flop and guess what? His is Number one. He was number one. And guess what? Man over there talk about dead mama like 50 times. That's all she could say.
Speaker 2:That was not all she said.
Speaker 3:Mostly she talked a little bit. She said dead mama and made like six bars.
Speaker 1:Mirjane.
Speaker 3:Or am I wrong?
Speaker 1:I'm just going to say this. I'm going to say this what's the trash?
Speaker 3:Hey, no, no, no, no, no Hold on hold on hold on.
Speaker 1:What's the trash Hold on hold on hold on? Was it trash Hold on? Let me get to it here. Jay, I'm going to be honest with you. I listened to both and when I listened to Nicki's I was listening to this. I'm like did Mick hurt you? Nick? Because you sound hurt.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, it just sounds like, alright, alright, alright, so this is what we gonna do. What we gonna do is we gonna put some respect on Nikki Films, okay, because she not just hurt by Becky, she is hurt by multiple female rappers in the industry. They have been bullying her, bullying her, bullying, bullying her For years and she has not said a thing. She ain't said a thing.
Speaker 3:Except all those different beefs she had with everybody. Aside from that, she ain't said nothing.
Speaker 2:She hasn't said anything. She doesn't say anything directly to anybody. Name a time other than when Cardi literally assaulted her physically.
Speaker 3:When did she physically assault her?
Speaker 2:Oh, we gonna act like that shit didn't happen at the.
Speaker 3:Met y'all.
Speaker 2:You talking about throwing the shoe. She physically assaulted her. She didn't just throw a shoe, it was a whole, entire brawl.
Speaker 3:A brawl.
Speaker 2:Brawl A fight. They didn't fight. Yes, they did. Who got beat up, nikki? Oh okay, I'm not going to lie.
Speaker 3:And who threw a suit. Wow, did the suit hit her? Yes, the suit did not even hit her.
Speaker 2:Wow, wow. So this is another instance. Nikki ain't getting bullied. Nikki has been getting bullied. Nikki don't get bullied.
Speaker 3:Yes, she does, she don't get bullied they put on t-shirts and they go to work. They have razors under their tongue. They from around the way. Ain't no way they got bullied.
Speaker 2:She was getting bullied in the industry you think Nikki gonna allow herself to work? They have razors under their tongue. They from around the way. Ain't no way they got bullied.
Speaker 3:She was getting bullied in the industry. You think Nikki gonna allow?
Speaker 2:herself to get bullied, nikki, she got bullied, she got bullied, she ain't getting no bully. You can't even give me an instance where she hasn't been bullied Every day. Lotto recorded their conversation and posted it as if Nikki was saying something mean or rude to her. Everybody do that, every day. Nobody does that every day.
Speaker 3:If you are an artist or anybody in the limelight.
Speaker 2:Megan literally told Nicki Megan literally disrespected Nicki and her husband. When does she disrespect Nicki and her husband On an Instagram live when she literally told Nikki Nikki was trying to have a baby? She told Nikki Girl go take you with plan B, girl go get you.
Speaker 3:That's not funny, it was a joke though it don't matter if it's not funny or not. She wasn't bullying her, she was saying a joke. That wasn't bullying, that was a joke. Was it in poor taste? Yeah, you know what I mean, but was it a joke nevertheless no, it wasn't funny and what happened if Nikki?
Speaker 2:as her friend, because she told her before they started recording I don't, that's not what I'm doing. I'm trying to have a baby. I'm trying to get pregnant. That's a friendship conversation. I'm trying to have a baby. Why would you tell someone who's trying to have a baby girl, man, forget all that, go, take you a plan b, you can go to the clinic. Why would you say that she was going to go to?
Speaker 3:the clinic have plan b. We're trying to have a hot girl summer it does not matter that that was a joke, though that's not funny. I understand and I agree that so, but but this is that's not bullying that is bullying, that's not caring about someone's feelings.
Speaker 2:That's a disregard for the fact that she has a husband who's in the other room across from them, who heard the conversation. That is a complete disregard and disrespect. Megan's disrespectful.
Speaker 3:She has been disrespectful and all she had to do was say hey, I don't appreciate that. That makes me feel some type of way and communicate with your friend.
Speaker 2:She didn't communicate that. That ain't what happened. She didn't communicate that that ain't what happened.
Speaker 3:She didn't communicate that. You done, skip a couple steps. How about you done literally?
Speaker 2:You done, literally skip a couple steps, my nickname ain't skip for nothing. But that ain't the point. The point I'm making is that. And then, mind you, nikki dropped a whole mixtape during 2020. Whole mixtape, no promo.
Speaker 3:Yeah, was it good.
Speaker 2:It was amazing. You cannot tell me it wasn't good.
Speaker 3:I didn't say it wasn't. I asked you was it good? I agree it was decent. It was slick decent.
Speaker 2:Seeing green. Oh my God.
Speaker 3:Seeing green was good. Shout out to Weezy. Shout out to Drake.
Speaker 2:I'm just I'm literally just saying Nikki was not dropping no bars about nobody. She wasn't doing anything for years. All these girls teamed up on her. They tried to quote, unquote metaphorically and she's from New York. She used to jump in people. Wow, when did she? Even we don't have no proof of evidence of that?
Speaker 3:yes, we do, she's from new york.
Speaker 2:Oh my god we're not doing this. We're not doing this, but I will say this everything that nikki said in her disc party already said. I'm just saying for for megan to sit up here and everything. You can look up everything wwwlawcom wait a minute, wait a wait, wait a minute. Also, let's just be honest here. Megan hasn't even given apology to the parents of megan, who have came out and said they disagree with the fact that she used that bar that way first of all, the child.
Speaker 3:The children came up to the father and said that he don't, and he said he didn't like the song because of what she said after. That ain't had nothing to do with that. Bar they trying to, they trying to use spin that. No, no, no they're not no, they're not. They ain't mad at me, they mad at megan's law. Now tell me what's disrespectful about that in that bar, what's?
Speaker 2:disrespectful, that child was sexually molested and assaulted, and so what's the one that her husband talked to? Excuse me, that that was. They were both 16. They was under age.
Speaker 3:They were both 16. They were both 16. They were both underage.
Speaker 2:We're not going to do that. I'm not going to do that. I'm just saying Because if we go there, that's a whole different conversation. That is a whole conversation, because that's a whole different conversation, because I know quite a few 16-year-old boys who should be in prison.
Speaker 3:They definitely should, because they were 16.
Speaker 2:Because they were 16. But they were dumb, they were stupid.
Speaker 3:But nevertheless.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying it was even worse.
Speaker 3:And it went over everybody's head. They didn't even realize it. Wait.
Speaker 2:Wait, you know what else we forgetting?
Speaker 3:Nah, don't be trying to hit me with something hard that I gotta look up. Nah, don't be trying to. Don't come to no realization.
Speaker 2:You know what Fine.
Speaker 3:Nah, nah, what is it? I need to know what it is.
Speaker 2:Nah, nah, nah, since you don't want to you don't want to look it up, but that's another case of bullying. People have been bullying Nicki for years about her being with Kevin Petty Because he's a registered sex offender, even though he served his time. We, as the United States of America, have said if people serve their time, they are due to be judged fairly After they've served their time. He's served his time, but what else happened?
Speaker 3:The same girl. He's on the sex offender list, though for life. He is on the sex offender list. In fact, that's part of his crime.
Speaker 2:That's part of his crime. He's doing his due diligence. He's already been judged.
Speaker 3:No, no, no I mean he should be judged for it in and of itself.
Speaker 2:But he's already been judged.
Speaker 3:You have to look at that and say, hey, you a sex offender, what you doing over here with these little kids? And then he can explain.
Speaker 2:He's a registered sex offender for sexual assault.
Speaker 3:He has to stay 50 feet away from churches and schools.
Speaker 2:He does. But he's doing that. Nah, he's doing that. Nah, he's doing that with Nikki. First of all, nikki is being used. So what does Nikki have to do with Kevin Petty? Nikki is being used because that's her husband.
Speaker 3:They are one unit and yes, she is.
Speaker 2:So you're agreeing that she's being bullied Okay, thank you by Kevin Petty. No, she's not being bullied by Kevin Petty.
Speaker 3:Yes, he is bullying her. If she was, you know who bullied her Meek Mill. Meek Mill bullied Nicki. But we don't talk about how Meek Mill did it.
Speaker 2:Meek Mill is a clown. Meek Mill literally was physically abusing Nicki.
Speaker 3:So yeah. So I agree completely, Everybody, Nicki done.
Speaker 1:Talked to that I know of. I forgot about Meek. Mill for a hot minute.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know. Let's look at the dating history, since we're going there who was before Meek Mill, nas and who was before that Safari? All right, so let's look at this.
Speaker 2:Safari. And let's look at Megan's dating history. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. We're not going to speed past that. We're going to talk about how many times she busted it wide open.
Speaker 3:At least she ain't busting it wide open for clowns, excuse me.
Speaker 2:So Party won the clown. Oh wait, Tori won the clown. The baby won the clown. The baby won the clown.
Speaker 3:The baby wasn't a clown Listen, listen, linda, listen, honey, listen. Nas was the first clown she didn't talk to and guess what? Nikki broke up with him saying nah, I need another client, that's not what happened.
Speaker 2:That's basically what happened.
Speaker 3:They both came out and said it's a little different, you can talk all her stuff up to. She just young. Nikki was young too. Nah, nikki, nah, all of them relationships. She was not young, she was older. She was older than Meg, older than Meg. But that doesn't she was not young, she was older.
Speaker 2:She was older than meg older than me, but that doesn't, she was still young. Minded meg is young, young she. She was still in college. But okay, oh, oh, oh, so she had she's college educated. Okay, so she should have better sense well, you know, you know you know I mean the girls. I didn't. You know I was gonna say so. What you're saying is that college educated girls don't have no sense.
Speaker 3:Okay, I agree with you. Hey, that could be smart, that could be book smart. That's all I'm saying. People got to use their common sense. Megan has outrightly said that she is I know a girl right now right now with a master's and she talked to some dude that been in prison for like 15 years and he ain't never getting out. But that's her boo. She love him to death. She ain't met him when he was in prison.
Speaker 2:She ain't gonna never see him.
Speaker 3:Is that in and of itself Good or bad? That's up for debate, but is it kinda dumb?
Speaker 2:Yes, Is it kinda dumb?
Speaker 3:Maybe what you gonna get out of it. You gotta spend money you can't even get. You can't even get more money than you. You know what? You still gotta lay your bed you know what you know.
Speaker 2:My only problem and I will say this, and I'm gonna leave it at this my, my only problem is that Megan's a liar and I have a problem with that. What did she lie about? She's lied about a lot of stuff. So did Nikki.
Speaker 3:What did Nikki lie about? Nikki played a victim in everything, like she a victim.
Speaker 2:But she don't be a victim.
Speaker 3:She spread that lie to all the bars, saying she got jumped by every girl in the industry when she was throwing a rock to hide her hand.
Speaker 2:He literally did not throw the rock or hide her hand.
Speaker 3:She threw the rock, hit her hand and said what, what.
Speaker 2:No, no, she didn't.
Speaker 3:What happened? No.
Speaker 2:And then started crying.
Speaker 3:Fake crying. She was fake crying.
Speaker 2:Megan fake cried on Gayle King. No, she couldn't cry, she fake cried. She tried. No, she couldn't cry. She fake cried exactly. She lied. She's a liar and I have a problem with that. That's. My only problem with Megan is that she outwardly lied.
Speaker 3:But look though, about what would you display everybody you didn't have sex with for the nation to see she does, would you?
Speaker 2:she does, she does display it. No, would you.
Speaker 1:On Gayle King would you tell Gayle King he's asking you to have a medical call.
Speaker 3:I'd ask all these specific people at these specific dates, and I want the world to know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would Shit fuck this. I'm not going to lie on my pussy, I'm going to tell the truth. Yeah, nigga, I slept with that nigga, I did as a celebrity bro. You need to have some privacy, at least some form of privacy. My privacy would have been keeping my legs closed. Now is the baby a clown Likely.
Speaker 3:Do I like Tory?
Speaker 2:No so why is she with both?
Speaker 3:of them.
Speaker 2:At the same time.
Speaker 3:Is he like 4'11"? Absolutely, but she like Tory.
Speaker 1:Wait, is he, is he?
Speaker 2:4'11".
Speaker 3:Absolutely, but she likes shorter, men Wait, is he 4'11"? I don't know.
Speaker 2:Wait which one, the baby or Taur. They both short. Yeah, hey look, hobbits need love too, cray, but she has said that she likes shorter men because it's domineering for her.
Speaker 3:Hey the rock, look like you know what I mean. He said he want to be a pet so he's 5'3" y'all. How tall is the rock? The baby or Thor?
Speaker 1:No, Thor is 5'3".
Speaker 2:Dang, he ain't but one inch taller than me. Dang, that crazy Boy. I thought I was shorter.
Speaker 3:Nah, he ain't but one inch taller than me. Oh, the baby baby shorter than me wait a minute.
Speaker 2:Y'all are tall, I'm 5'10.
Speaker 3:I'm not tall. I'm 5'7 and a half on a good day, but look though, hey look, I'm taller than that.
Speaker 2:I'm 6'3 you go ahead, I'm 6'3.
Speaker 3:I tell everybody I'm 6'3. I will tell everybody that you are 5'7 and a half as you stated earlier, I'm really 6'3, though that's what I tell people.
Speaker 2:I got to.
Speaker 3:I got to.
Speaker 2:It's okay, I'm a shorty, I ain't gonna lie. I kept trying to get taller. The doctor told me I wasn't gonna grow no more, so I started crying. Told that bitch she was a liar.
Speaker 3:The devil is a liar. See, I like that.
Speaker 2:Yep, just like Megan, Just a liar. The devil is a liar. See, I like that.
Speaker 3:Yep, just like Megan, Just a liar, yeah just like the devil is a liar. Yeah, just like Nikki. She just knew nothing but lying. She didn't write her own music.
Speaker 2:We're not doing this.
Speaker 3:She didn't.
Speaker 2:We're not doing this. Megan doesn't write her own music. She don't have to she a bit to me, what Nikki wrote Monster, that one song. No, she's wrote a lot of her own songs Does she have writing credits? Yes, but she aptly admits that she gives writing credits.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no, she said that she writes all of her own music.
Speaker 2:She said that she writes all of her own music, as in she writes her music and she has help if it don't sound good, it don't sound right. Yeah, can you help me out?
Speaker 3:if I, if I can recall, on her mixtape holiday season, she stated specifically that she write her own music. Lil Wayne don't write her music.
Speaker 2:But as I look on the writing credits, she also swears and says that she never slept with Lil Wayne, and I believe her.
Speaker 3:A likely story.
Speaker 2:Even Lil Wayne has openly admitted that he could never get Dickie to do it. And Lil Wayne don't remember shit.
Speaker 1:He remember that One song she did with Wayne and Drake is I Never Fucked Wayne, Never Fucked Drake.
Speaker 2:She even said in one of her newest songs she was like. I hope Wayne never forgets that I never said it.
Speaker 3:If I did. I'm nice with him. Let him eat my ass like a cupcake. She said that.
Speaker 2:That line was great. I'll be honest with you, I've always wanted to know.
Speaker 3:Never mind.
Speaker 2:Exactly. I want to know what that's like.
Speaker 3:What kind of frosting is it?
Speaker 2:I like vanilla frosting.
Speaker 3:Is it vanilla? Is it like cream cheese icing? I need to know. Nikki get at me, get at the boys, I will see. I will definitely do that.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:And I'm not being petty.
Speaker 1:Time's up. I'm just gonna put it to y'all. Like this Nikki, put out some bangers. No doubt, Megan, I'm starting to like your work. I'm not. I didn't really listen to her songs as much as Nicki's, but I did like His.
Speaker 3:not gonna lie, I'm like okay, nicki, I got a question for you both, though. Was Bigfoot trash yes or no? No, it wasn't trash.
Speaker 2:No, you know you're lying. No, I'm not. The bars were great. I can't sit up here and lie.
Speaker 3:How'd we pick you out and make?
Speaker 2:you stumble to the car. Bob's, I need a good alcohol bar. That was the bar.
Speaker 3:That was the bar Hold on.
Speaker 1:You know what's funny? I was scrolling through Facebook and somebody in the comments was talking about nikki's song and I found it so funny. Uh, this one comment said that um bigfoot was just threatening asmr yeah, that sounds about right, the ending of it.
Speaker 2:For sure, I ain't gonna even lie the ending of it, I can't even lie so dead mama, though, though that's messed up, but no, she want to party with the baby while rubbing on Tori's toupee. You can't tell me that shit ain't hilarious.
Speaker 3:Listen so dead mama, though how many times do? You have to say dead mama.
Speaker 2:She G-Eazy. That's disrespectful Carl made her crawl for it.
Speaker 3:That's disrespectful man.
Speaker 2:She G-Eazy, she fucked G-Eazy and she G-Eazy. Oh my God, can't lie and tell me her bars ain't close.
Speaker 3:She had six bars.
Speaker 2:She did not.
Speaker 3:Okay, y'all For real.
Speaker 1:We gotta wrap this episode up.
Speaker 2:Alright, alright, let's.
Speaker 1:I know, ladies and gentlemen listening to this, we pretty much ran out of steam for Quantumania a while back anyway. So you know, we said what we had to say about Quantumania. It was good, but you know, just not a banger for me. But with that being said, I will give Quantumania a 3.5. It was decent, I won't say mid, it was decent 2.9 Okay.
Speaker 1:And, with that being said, we're going to go ahead and wrap this up. You already know the drill and remember that we're going to have more reviews coming out. Until then, stay nerdy, we are zoning out, take it easy. Okay, nerds, it's time for a lightning review on the MCU secret invasion. I'm going to be honest with you, the inner circle they didn't get around to watching Secret Invasion and personally I don't even blame them, because this show was meh, just meh. Like you know, some of us know that live action adaptation is going to cut corners, but this just wasn't it anyways.
Speaker 1:Like something about the scroll planet blowing up and fury was taking too long to find them a new home. So some of the scrolls became terrorists as part of their world domination scheme, like, essentially, they were trying to provoke and instigate this nuclear war between Russia and America. And then everybody goes to shit. And keep in mind that, with radiation, skrulls are immune to radiation, so when all the humans die off of radiation, they'll be the only ones remaining. Therefore, they pretty much took over the planet and the main takeaways from it was Khaleesi. I'm sorry, but Gaia becomes a super scroll, kills Gravik which, by by the way, I think he was a fairly good villain. Like I don't know something about the way he talked and shit, the way he carried himself. I'm like, okay, it wasn't all that bad, but it was still man. Her father died. Talos and the Skrull that was impersonating Rhodey tried to fire Nick Fury. And one of my favorite lines was I'm Nick Fury, even when I'm out, I'm in. I'm like, yeah, I kind of fuck with that. Oh yeah, nick Fury also had this secret marriage to a Skrull, so I guess he can join Grandpa Max from Ben 10 and Dick Grayson from the DC Universe in the I Smash Aliens Club. But yeah, after everything was said and done, fury fucks off back into space with his wife in time for the premise of the Marvels. That's pretty much it. And I even talked to Mira Jane about this and she was saying, like, so Fury abandoned the Skrulls and Kuyo forgot about him or something Like whoopsies. Like I guess I got a problem to fix. Like, yeah, essentially Fury got a stomp out at fire. He started when he was spending Like 30 years between field work and becoming the director of shield and assembling the avengers and all that shit. I'm like, oh well, you know, shit happens, you. But yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I'd say 2.5 out of 5 stars for Secret Invasion Not too bad, but it's kind of forgettable, at least until like see, secret Invasion just feels like a tie-in from the first Captain Marvel movie to this Marvel and the Marvels movie, to this marvel and the marvels, because keep in mind that, uh, by the time he goes back up into space he's probably being introduced to kamala khan and the events of the marvel. I didn't see the marvels yet, but I'm planning on watching it on on disney plus in about two days upon recording. Uh, so yeah, it's gonna be like two days from the time I put this recording out that it'll be on disney plus and I'll watch it then, and but that's just pretty much how secret invasion feels for me. So it's like they were trying to do horn in this whole scroll involvement with um plot of things and they just had to be over and done within, like what, six episodes. Yeah, it was six episodes. So, yeah, that's pretty much how I feel about secret invasion.
Speaker 1:Uh, if you feel differently, then good on you. I guess you know like I'm not going to argue against it, but that's just how I feel about secret invasion. Take it as you, take it or leave it. So, with that being said, I'm out. But you already know the drill. I'm not gonna even go through the whole spill, like I usually do. But you know, just take it easy, stay nerdy, remember that great things are coming. I am gone. All right, y'all, jeff bucking stream here. I'm gonna do the loki season 2 review, solo and without further ado, let's zone in on it.
Speaker 1:Uh, my impression of loki season 2 amazing. I just like how everything pretty much went full circle from the very first episode of Loki to where Loki won a throne. He wanted to rule, but by the end of it all it's more like he's on his throne but he's protecting the timelines as he had no choice but to, you know, make sure that the temporal loom stays intact by sacrificing himself. But let's take this review for a walk for a moment. Let's go back to episode one of season two. So in the past, the tva attempt to apprehend loki while he's uncontrollably warping across time in their headquarters. And in the present, loki reunites with mobius and warns him about the threat posed by the marrying variants of he who remains, you know, came to conquer and general docs has several tba hunters armed themselves as they try to find sylvie, who caused the whole thing from, you know, season one finale, and Loki and Mobius meets the TVA technician Ouroboros we'll just call him OB for convenience who deduces that Loki is time slipping, which is this phenomenon where he possibly caused, by branching timelines to injury, overloading the temporal loom to where he'll probably slip into the past or the future. Who, who knows? He doesn't have any control over that and to save Loki, obi instructs Mobius to approach the temporal loom with a temporal aura extractor device that extracts Loki from the time stream.
Speaker 1:As Loki prunes himself, loki time slips into the future where the TVA is being evacuated. As the loom goes critical, he encounters Sylvie before he is pruned in the elevator scene. He was being pruned by someone at the last minute and in the present, mobius pulls Loki from the time stream successfully and they set out to find Sylvie At the end of episode one. Sylvie is in the branch Timeline in Broxton, oklahoma, back in like 1982, I think it was and visits a McDonald's. So okay, Okay.
Speaker 1:Not a bad opening to the season, excuse me, episode 2. Loki Mobius and Hunter B-15 find and capture Hunter X-5 in London, 1977, on the Sacred Timeline where he lives as a film actor, brad Wolf. Under interrogation, he admits to abandoning Doc's mission and reveals Sylvie's location. He admits to abandoning Doc's mission and reveals Sylvie's location. Meanwhile, OB attempts to repair the loom to safely accommodate the branching timeline but finds out that he can't access it without the help of the missing Miss Minutes or he who remains Aura. So Loki Mobius and Wolf travel to Oklahoma to find Sylvie working in that McDonald's from the last episode. Loki tells her that they're encounter with TVA Future and asks for her assistant to figure out what would happen. But she's like no, I don't really feel like doing that. I want to have a normal life because you know my life was taken away from me in the first place. So this is my one chance to have that normal life. So I don't want to get involved.
Speaker 1:But wolf proclaims the group is in mortal danger. Sylvie enchants him, forcing him to reveal doc's plan to simultaneously destroy the branching timelines with reset charges, so sending wolf back into custody. Loki mobius and sylvie capture dogs. But her plan has largely succeeded and some of her loyalists have escaped. So as the tba's receptionist casey tracks the rope where bonnie renslayer, judge renslayer, uh, temptat from one of the remaining ranging timelines, sylvie declared that TVA is rotten and returns to the McDonald's With he who remains a tin pad in her possession.
Speaker 1:So that was episode two and episode three. Okay, this the one, this the one. I like Y'all about to find out In just a moment. But here we go.
Speaker 1:Miss Minnes and Rensleg traveled to chicago 1868 to secretly drop the tba handbook to a young victor, timely, who was a variant of he who remains, who had arranged this before his death. So there was a contingency plan. They traveled to the 1893 chicago world fair in this branch timeline where Loki and Mobius arrive, tracking Renslayer's Tempad and see Timely present his temporal loom prototype. Timely then has four groups chasing him. There's Loki and Mobius, who need his aura to fix the loom. There's Renslayer and Miss Menace who just want him to take his variance plays with them at his side. So basically, just make him another version of he who remains. Sylvie, who wants to kill him to prevent his rise to power, and then this robber Baron who and his ally want to revenge against Timely's fake invention scam. So yeah, timely's kind of a scammer, but at the same time, you know, with the book and he's, he's not a complete scammer, but he is kind of a counter-artist again, however you want. So Timely abandons Renslayer for proposing a partnership.
Speaker 1:Okay, let me talk. Let me tell you something about Victor Timely. Victor Timely used Silver Tongue, pim you. I'm gonna explain this more In episode 4, but Essentially it was more like, uh, with Timely meeting Renslayer and Ms Menace, you know the girls had like stars in their eyes Um meeting this guy and Renslayer, miss menace, you know the girls had like stars in their eyes, um, meeting this guy and rinslayer was like really feeling him and, on time, was feeling her too, I know romantically, but you know like they can kind of like understand each other in a sense.
Speaker 1:And then timely was like, yeah, sure, partners. Next thing, you know, as soon as she was asleep, like timely just somehow got her into this um lifeboat thing that was on top of this uh bigger boat that they acquired I don't know how, but they got it and then had her drop into the ocean. She wakes up, it's like, well, she didn't really do that, but that's how it felt. And he was like, hey, man, I told y'all I don't do partners. And miss men's was on that boat. Like bye, it's like oh, so that's some traitor shit.
Speaker 1:And then, you know, miss minutes, she was feeling some type of way about um victor time. Now, this was more romantic. But you know time we thought that was the weirdest bug. And she was out there like really thirsty as fuck too, and then, uh, he was like okay, I need to get rid of you too. Yeah, so at Timely's Wisconsin Laboratory he turns Miss Missing off after she professes Romantic love for him. After I just Explained, and Renslayer, loki, mobius and Sylvie arrive, with Sylvie gain control. By the way, renslayer was Kind of salty about all this, so Are you in?
Speaker 1:living roll, by the way, renslayer was kind of salty about all that he did. Hey, so how you been living, oh man, oh man.
Speaker 1:I'm kind of going to miss the major business. Anyways, and mages in this shit, ah, anyways, sylvie allows Loki to take timely back to the TVA, then sends Renslayer to the Citadel. At the end of time, with Ms Menace being brought along, they see he remains decaying corpse as Ms Menace reveals that she knows a secret about Renslayer. Okay, we got a Haspen Hotel review coming up and I'm probably going to mention this. Has been revealed that she knows a secret about Renslayer. Oh, okay, we got a has been hotel review coming up and I'm probably gonna mention this anyways when I do that review. But it just reminds me of what Alistair said to Charlie, like I know something you don't know. And then that's funny because Charlie, from always Sunday, said the same thing to Dennis in that one episode where you know Mac was banging Dennis's and Dee's mom. It's a whole thing in that episode. So that was episode three. Yeah, personally my favorite. Well, aside from the finale, of course. But you know, like it was ironically funny, like I didn't expect it to be as funny as it was to me uh, in my opinion I just didn't, but I wasn't doing it
Speaker 1:yeah. So episode four, miss minnich reveals that in the past rinslayer commanded he who remains army practically winning the cane war for him. And when everything was said and done, he at first proposed to leave the tba with ren slayer and then had mismanaged. Erase the memories of ren slayer and all the other tba employees, because you know how it is just like with bitter timely he Remains, don't do partners. But that's kind of ironic because that's with Janet in Quantumania. But I guess you know he kind of needed her to get his machine going so he can escape the quantum realm and then after that, you know, janet can just fuck off somewhere. But basically he didn't really see her as a partner either. So you know, kang he who remains to make the time leap, regardless of what variant is like. They just on their sigma grind set, I guess. Now where was I? Oh yeah, as the temporal loom reaches catastrophic failure, loki and his allies attempt to use Timely and OB's thought put multiplier to fix it. Ob reveals that the source of his knowledge is Timely himself in by the handbook that OB wrote. But at the same time OB wrote the handbook based on Victor Timely's notes. So take that as you will.
Speaker 1:Renslayer and Miss Minutes attempt to take over the TVA, approaching the detained Wolf Docs, docs and her loyalist for help. Only wolf agrees, while docs and her loyalist instead chose to be crushed to death by miss menace in this. Well, you don't get to see it happening. But it was like this boss, like y'all ever heard of this anime called kakashi? Uh, it's kind of like that's where it's like they just use barrier magic and they can like enlarge it or minimize it and basically what happens that? They were like in this, uh cube and it was like just minimizing on them. He's like crushing them from within. I'm like, yeah, yeah, empty ways. Wolf prunes, hunter D90 and kidnaps Timely. Sorry about that y'all, my headset timed out on me for some reason, but where was I with this shit? Yeah, only Wolf agrees to Renslayer Ms Menon's attempt to take over the TVA. Dogs and her loyalists got crushed. Wolf prunes D-90 and kidnaps Timely after staging A rescue.
Speaker 1:Sylvie and Loki Encounter his time-slipping past self. Loki prunes his past self. So once again, time paradox. Take that as you will. Obi Deactivates Ms Menage and the tba's magic suppressing devices, which means sylvie and loki has their magic back. Sylvie enchants wolf, controlling him, to prune ring slayer, she'll rinse layer. Remember, when you get pruned you go to the end of time.
Speaker 1:So there's that, rescued timely restores assets to the loom. But when he approaches the loom the increased temporal radiation spaghettifies him. It was, and I was kind of shocked. I was like, oh shit, I thought it was going to work but fuck. But you're going to find out what they actually went for in the next two episodes. I'm getting there. So the temporal loom explodes, a blast wave spreads towards loki, mogis and everybody else in tva.
Speaker 1:Loki survives the explosion in episode five, as we see in episode five, but everyone else has vanished and the tva headquarters forgetifies. So loki escapes as he began time flipping again, taking him to branch timelines where his friends mobius and the rest of them were reset to their original lives as don, dr verity, willis, frank morris and dr ad doug respectively. Now, wanting to time flip to before the explosion, loki lifts Doug's help. With Loki unable to control his time slipping, doug proposes Loki gather everyone present At the explosion back together so that their collective temporal aura Can send them back to the right time and place. Doug builds a tin pad using a TV handbook that Loki kept. So that's how Obi was able to get the handbook. You know, loki succeeds and gathers everyone else to Doug's workshop. It's up to Sylvie who has retained their memories.
Speaker 1:Refusing to help Sylvie makes Loki admit his true motivation, wanting to uh fringe back and he's scared of being alone. Kind of like a recall to this I want to say, time loop in episode one where uh, loki reunites well, not reunites but he's and basically it was this whole thing where Loki wants once cut a little bit of sips hair and uh, sips comes up and kind of kicks his ass and talk about you're meant to die alone and blah, blah, blah. And real funny how you're gonna find out that that kind of rings true now, but not in the way that you would expect, not like in a punishment kind of way, but it's more like he had to do what he had to do. But either way, when everything in Sylvie's timeline spaghettifies, she goes to help Loki. However, doug's workshop also spaghettifies, as do Frank, doug, don, everybody else, and just when Loki thought he was about to lose everything and it just seemed real bad. Loki was just like and then he finally controls his time slipping by focusing on a person, so declaring that he can rewrite the story.
Speaker 1:Loki time slipped to before the explosion by focusing on ob. So it's funny how, in that moment, it uh, oh, I like how, his um theme song, um, you know the green theme song, like that one, yeah, I like that one, I love that one, fucking yeah. But seriously, though, it kind of reminds me of what's that one anime called, but, uh, the world guy only knows to where. Um, the main guy uh, fuck, I forgot his name, okay, uh, I think it was like kasaragi or someone came on Katsuragi, he was his dog, has braids like once. He's like complete a flag or what. Nice, like, I can see the ending and I kind of like the enemy. I might do a review on it, maybe next February, but anyways, these are finale time.
Speaker 1:Ok, loki time slips to the moment before the temporal loom's explosion. Despite his attempts, the loom ultimately fails to accommodate the infinite branches. So Loki slips to the moment Before Sylvie kills. He who remains. By the way, there was this whole thing when it just kept failing and failing Until Loki realized Okay, let me go back to the moment Before Sylvie kills, he who remains who tells Loki that the Lumia is a failsafe. So he who Remains knew this was going to happen. So yeah, so either way, you either gotta take over the TVA or it's just gonna keep happening. So overloading it protects the Sacred, sacred timeline by deleting the branches along with the tba. So he who remains suggests to loki to kill sylvie to save the loom, which loki rejects. And after consulting mogis and sylvie at different moments in time, loki replaces timely and, approaching the loom, loki destroys the loom magically, rejuvenates the dying timelines and rearranges them to this tree-like structure, you know, like Yggdrasil, the world tree, pretty much like that. So it's like an Asgardian reference and I like that. So he committed himself to oversee the branches alone At the end of time.
Speaker 1:The TBA now tracks he who Remains for variants across the growing branches. So they're not pruning branches anymore, they're just overseeing them in case anything goes wrong. You know like, okay, let's deal with them, but we're not gonna prune the whole timeline just because something happened here. So with Mobius reporting one variant being stopped at Earth 616, adjacent realm, b-15 becomes one of the TVA's leaders. Ob reactivates a now friendly Miss Minutes and writes a new TVA handbook with Timely as co-author, and in one timeline. Timely did not receive the TVA handbook In 1868, so he pretty much got his life back. Well, he won't become he. He remains very or anything like that, but he's gonna be a normal dude.
Speaker 1:Renslager awakens in the void. Remember I told you that when you get pruned, you just go into the void. So it's not really the end of time, but more like you just go to the void. So she awakens in the void and encounters Alia, and that's probably going to be a thing in a future installment. So Mobius retires from the TVA. He and Sylvia observe Don and his children from afar.
Speaker 1:So, basically, mobius visits a variant of him and yeah, uh, mobius visits a variant of him. And yeah, and meanwhile, you know, you see loki sitting from his throne, um, looking over everybody. And yeah, I feel for you, loki, but you, you really did what you had to do. So I feel you, bro, I feel you, and that was pretty much loki season two. Yeah, five out of five stars, it was brilliant.
Speaker 1:And, with that being said, you know what, I'm just gonna go ahead and close this one out. Yeah, five out of five stars, it was brilliant. And, with that being said, you know what? I'm just going to go ahead and close this one out. I was expecting people on for this one. But at the same time, you know things happen, so the show must go on. But you know the drill.
Speaker 1:We got links attached to the episode, so follow us on social media if you want to. We got a lot of reviews to cover. We got a lot of things that we have in mind for the year, but you're just going to have to stay tuned to see what we come up with. So in the meantime, stay nerdy. Remember that great things are coming. I'm zoning out. Okay, I'm going to be honest with y'all. There wasn't much enthusiasm for us on the Zone podcast to talk about this net chunk of the MCU, but with Deadpool and Wolverine come to theaters, I feel slightly obligated to at least talk about these three titles, even if it's not for very long.
Speaker 1:The MCU honestly been hit or miss lately. So here's what I think about the marvels. Not gonna lie, didn't absolutely hit it, but it could have been better. The whole gimmick of the three ladies switching places every time they coincidentally use their powers at the same time could have been utilized in a more clever way. But the film spends most of the runtime being confused by the occurrence and by the time they learn how to use their powers in perfect sync, it doesn't last for very long.
Speaker 1:And carol has this whole arc to where she gotta do right by the creed for ruining their way of life with her whole annihilator art that she was going on, but she didn't even like being called the annihilator. You know the whole thing, and, monica, because keep in mind that while carol was doing all that shit, uh, she left Monica and Maria back at Earth and Maria passed away and Monica pretty much grew up without seeing her quote unquote Aunt Carol, and essentially Carol's just been running away from that Hell. It was kind of awkward for them to talk for the first time since years. It was kind of awkward for them to talk for the first time since years Five, you know. But yeah, speaking of Monica, she gained power since WandaVision and in the end she made the big sacrifice, the big hero sacrifice, by sealing the rift that was in space in the end of the movie from the other side. So she's stuck in another universe, but she was saved by the x-men and we know that because she meets with beast and binary and, funny enough, uh, in this universe, uh, maria is still alive, but she's going by binary. In fact, she's the one that gained the powers in this one. So it's kind of like with dr strange all over again to where maria became captain marvel instead of, uh, carol. Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Let me talk about one of the things that kind of pissed me off about this film. Like the one thing that pissed me off the most is that Kamala finally meets her hero, but when she sees that Carol is not exactly what she thought she would be, I felt disappointed that Kamala didn't grill Carol for for letting innocent people die like twice, and it's almost as if kamala was too busy simping for idols to give carol valid criticism, like in some scenes. You can tell that, um, she felt a little disillusioned by carol, because and that's another thing maybe I'm missing something, but how are you idolizing a hero that's barely on earth, like, yeah, she was sort of there for in-game, but for the most part wasn't carol like flying around in space the whole time? That's pretty much the whole point of why monica feels, though, oh, oh well, you could have called or you could have visited, but you ain't wanna do that. That's, that's the weird thing and that, and also, uh, that one part where, uh, carol was trying to save the people that one time. And then Kama was like, oh, my captain, my captain or whatever that was, and then Monica was looking at her like girl, you are something for Carol Weiss, you are, yeah, like I thought that was kind of weird.
Speaker 1:But you know, the fact that the Marvels takes place after Secret Invasion in the MCU timeline makes it even more disappointing how Nick Fury went from having this serious role in the grand scheme of things to the comic relief in this movie. And can I also talk about how, between Secret Invasion, wandavision and Ms Marvel, there was all this setup for this movie, just for this movie to set up a young avengers project, which got canceled, by the way? Oh yeah, there's a villain in this movie that wants revenge against carol for the latter's annihilator art uh, pretty much, um, making the sun go out. Annihilator art uh, pretty much, um, making the sun go out. And personally she feels like a throwaway character. I mean, maybe she mattered more in the comics, maybe not, but I'm just really wasn't feeling as a villain. And other than that, this team up in the marvel just came and went uh, carol fucked off into space, monica's in another dimension, kamala was recruiting new talent for the Avengers Remember canceled project and I feel nothing leaving this movie. I mean I could tell that they were kind of having fun, like I could see that, but it was mid for me. Oh yeah, I like the upgrades in the costumes for Monica and Kamala, but Carol's looking kind of ugly, I mean why did they make the suit darker? It would have made more sense if the suit she had on before she switched that one out with the new one. Okay, the new one I can understand that being like the suit she has starting out, but then, as you know, like she got used to her old Captain Marvel role, that she gets like a more visually appealing suit. You know, whatever.
Speaker 1:We're moving on to what of season two? This one is the one I have the least to say, because what if betrayed itself in a second season? Because of the fact that it's supposed to be an anthology series, it has a little too much continuity in it. It's one thing to have the Guardians of the Multiverse set up for the first season, but using the same variants of characters makes it seem like the show's trying to break from its own format.
Speaker 1:Other than that, I thought the one shots were kind of intriguing, and now it's time to talk about Echo. And now it's time to talk about echo. Okay, so if you watch the hawkeye show, you're already familiar with maya lopez, and what makes it slightly interesting for me is that she fights derido in the first episode. I say this slightly interesting because I know that in the comics echo and derido will become a couple and with dervil getting it on, with She-Hulk and other characters in the MCU or Netflix Defenderverse, I'm sure that a lot. I'm just very curious about how that's going to go. After Maya presumably kills kingpin, she eventually goes back to her hometown to lay low.
Speaker 1:While she plots to replace kingpin one way or another, her family gets roped into maya's bullshit and she has to literally macgyver her way out of the war she started. Kingpin kind of comes off underwhelming in this series because his father-daughter like relationship with maya made him a little too trusting of her. Like even to the season finale seems like he could have ended maya and her family at any moment but held on to hope that maya would still choose to be under his umbrella again. But instead he gets defeated by the power of therapy and just fucks off. Oh yeah, because of Choctaw's heritage and whatnot.
Speaker 1:Maya's superpower is that she can inherit she has this inheritance of skills from her ancestry, as well as the ability to share those skills with those who are also from the same ancestry. So between that and her spiritual talk with her mother, that's how she sort of gains her hero name, echo. I'll give more one. Disney points for the representation of things like indigenous culture, the uses of American sign language and defiance against ableism, but outside of that kind of feels like echo just exists for itself. Well, at least until we see how Daredevil, born again, plays out, because I think Daredevil's inclusion in this series and Kingpin's interest in becoming mayor sets all that up With.
Speaker 1:That being said, that's all I gotta say about this chunk of the mcu. Mentally I'm waiting on deadpool and wolverine. Uh, the new captain america movie is looking kind of interesting, with red hope being included. Uh, thunderbolts is coming soon because, honestly, those are the ones that I'm really looking forward to. I would say secret wars, whatever they gotta rename kane dynasty. But once again, the mcu has been kind of hit or miss. So we're just gonna have to see and until then, stay nerdy. My friends, we'll be back for when we review the next chunk of the mcu. So that'll probably be like in another six months or so, depending on how fast I get this chuck out, so yeah, until the next part of the mcu stream.
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