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S-Cry-Ed: Pure Rivalry, Order vs. Freedom, and the Allure of Alter Powers in Anime
Have you ever wondered how two protagonists from opposite worlds can clash and captivate your imagination? We promise you'll uncover the fascinating dynamics of "S-Cry-Ed" as we chat with co-hosts Kokugatsu and Mira Jane. This episode unravels the anime's hidden treasures, from its gripping themes of order versus freedom to the nostalgic allure of its soundtrack, featuring the iconic "Reckless Fire." Kokugatsu shares a personal tale of discovering "S-Cry-Ed" through his brother's DVD collection, adding a heartfelt touch to our exploration of this original series that inspired a manga adaptation.
Join us as we navigate the vibrant universe of "S-Cry-Ed," dissecting the anime's and manga's distinct approaches. Mira Jane paints "S-Cry-Ed" as a quintessential "boy's anime," rich with action and unique alter abilities that resonate with a younger audience. We also draw intriguing parallels to classics like "Cowboy Bebop" and "Outlaw Star," highlighting the fierce rivalry between Kazuma and Ryuho. It's a rivalry marked by relentless animosity rather than reconciliation, a narrative choice that sets this anime apart despite a storyline that divides opinion but never fails to evoke nostalgia.
Beyond "S-Cry-Ed," we expand on the broader depiction of alter powers in anime, reflecting on how confrontation can forge respect. Drawing inspiration from the Yakuza games and anime like Baki, our conversation reveals how battles, both literal and metaphorical, foster growth and mutual understanding. Personal anecdotes and references to classics like "Dragon Ball Z" enrich our discussion. As we look ahead, we invite your thoughts on our blog, zone-alliance.com, and share exciting plans for upcoming content across multiple platforms, teasing a future Assassin's Creed review. Join us for more nerdy news and an engaging journey into the world of anime and beyond!
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welcome back to the zone podcast, the show that's all about nerdy news and reviews. I'm jeff blackestream, but feel free to call me jb if you wish and today's topic is scryde. Joining me on this review is tokugatsu and mira jane, so let's go ahead and zone in on it. What can I say about scryde? It's one of those hidden gem anime that's like underrated, one of those. It's a damn shame more people don't talk about it. It's like, even though it's pure action, like most of the anime is like them fighting each other, but there's like a deeper theme of order versus freedom, of order versus freedom. There's this government agency, this police force that's like not as good as you think they are, and one of the main protagonists is being disillusioned by the people that he looked up to. And you have another guy who just pretty much want to do whatever he wants, but at the same time he has to remember that he has people that care about him, so he can't be doing all this reckless shit, knowing that he got friends that all want him to. You know, come back alive and one piece and all that shit. And outside of that I was thinking like they got some colorful characters, like some characters. That really stands out. And I'm not trying to uh, go on for too long.
Speaker 1:But what can I say about scryde like, other than if I were to give it a rating right now, I would give it a four out of five stars, maybe like a eight to nine out of ten. I just kind of wish the ending felt more conclusive, but then again, that was just kind of the norm for anime back in 2001. Like, ok, aside from what happened in September, that was like a good year like anime and movies and all that shit. But hey man, listen back in that time, when I heard Reckless Fire coming on, I'm like I am hyped, I am ready to go. I'm like it's one of those anime to where, once you hear that um theme song, it's like all right, I'm ready, I'm diving in on this.
Speaker 1:And it was on Adult Sw at the time. And also I do like how? Scry is a anime original project where it started off as an anime first and then they were like, okay, let's make a manga while we're at it. But I'm gonna be real with you, I don't recommend manga. It's kind of like, uh, when koki gatsu and I was talking about prison school, I'm like you can read it if you want to, but I'm gonna recommend it. Speaking of which, tokugatsu, how are you feeling about Scry?
Speaker 2:I love Scry. It was one of the For me. I had that whole little thing with that because my eldest brother, when he first went to college, he had wound up buying a bunch of anime because he couldn't. He was like I ain't got the money to be paying for cable and internet and stuff right now, so he had just bought some like anime dvds. Went down to visit him one day, saw the dvd. He saw this. He had the full box set and I was like shoot, can I watch it? He was like sure, and I started watching a couple episodes and I was like yo, I gotta get back. But, um, can I take this with me? He said I'm not watching them right now, I'm mostly working. He said you're more than welcome. He said just give it back to me.
Speaker 2:I said of course, went back, watched it, fell in love with the whole show. Like you said, it's very much a hidden gem. There's a lot of detailed points into it but to be honest, that would be a full rant to go into, so I'll just keep it very simple. I'm not got time for that. Literally, you love the fact that I mean there's always a blog on you.
Speaker 1:I can make a detailed article on it on the Zone website y'all, ZoneWisecom.
Speaker 2:Actually we got a couple that working on right now. I know Mira James. She is already. She, hers is in the editing stage at the moment, so in the proofreading and editing. So we're going to get hers up and running, hopefully before the end of this weekend by the time of recording. And then Professor Tuck also has one that he has started. That's also in the proofreading and editing stage as well too. So definitely be on the lookout. We're hoping to have like two done, if not by the end of this weekend, before the middle of next week To get those fully up onto the website. So you guys can definitely check that out. But yeah, as far as buying into the show, our two main characters is one of those ones that are exact opposites. Both of them have some form of troubling upbringing, especially because of their powers, but each of them take life very differently.
Speaker 2:I want to talk about their powers too.
Speaker 1:Go ahead. I want to talk about their powers, but go ahead.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and so one is more rule savvy, one is more about rules and how in order versus. The other is about true freedom, like literally going back to the Assassin's Creed order versus chaos. Others about true freedom, like literally going back to the Assassin's Creed order versus chaos, and stuff like that, where the Templars are all about order and control but the Assassin's all about ultimate freedom, even if it means, you know, having chaos as long as everybody has their freedom. And so it's like one actually lives the life of luxury in class and the other one he's literally on the dirt streets. He got to fight and kill for his food type and it's like yo.
Speaker 1:I know you're not on the exactly the uh new gen console, uh way, but I really hope that you'll be on for the assassin's creed review in december, where we talk about mirage and shadows I'm hopeful that PS5, it's still expensive.
Speaker 2:I was hopeful that when they announced the PS5 Pro, that the first PS5 was going to go ahead and drop in price a little bit, they ain't budging on that shit Nothing.
Speaker 1:Honestly, we're going to talk about it in the nerdy news special. But the PS5 Pro, it's like if you don't have a ps5 at all, I get it, but if you already have one, don't, don't, don't, wish there's no point.
Speaker 2:There's literally no point, like just just don't, but anyway. But yeah, so it's like each one has the um has those moments where it's like that each of them have exact opposites. The color scheme is opposite, they're growing up is opposite, their power sets is opposite. I know we're going to talk about later, but just like a brief moment where one has his own he. He winds up having pretty much damn near jojo stand. That's kind of.
Speaker 2:Yes, I was gonna mention that, like bro, that's what looks like a fucking stand, especially when he gets his requiem form at the end exactly, and it can evolve, and each of them have their own involved like digimon as well too, like they're able to evolve, and then they can jump into the evolution or go back to the simpler evolution. So it's not like, oh, it's been evolved and I have to stay in my evolved form now, even though it takes up so much of my energy. No, I can choose to go to a lower form to conserve energy. And um, so one has a separate entity that he controls versus the other one modifies his own body. That is how his powers work.
Speaker 2:So the writer purposely did that. He said he wanted these characters to be exact opposite in every single way, like literally everything their personality, the way they grew up, their power, set their color scheme. Everything is made exactly opposite on purpose. So that way it makes it difficult. You can't it's supposed to be difficult to choose a favorite character, because you have aspects of both of them that you appreciate and aspects of them that you dislike as well too you know what I like that?
Speaker 1:you said that because I was going to expand on the characters a little bit more.
Speaker 1:And mirajan, I'm going to get your perspective in just a moment, but let me just say this real quick first of all, yes, I like the contrast between cosmo and ryuho, like between cosmo's arm and, uh, ryuho's puppet thing. Uh, keep in mind that, with alters, I like how, the way their powers work and fancy club Club President you can check to see how accurate this could be but it kind of reminds me of Fullmetal Alchemist, reminds me of Transmutation Circles.
Speaker 1:How, with all alters, the way their powers work is that they absorb the matter around them is that they absorb the matter around them and like, hold on, let me pull up the exact notes that I have for, um, essentially, uh, wait, wait, wait, I had it okay. It's a power that organism can create and arrange uh matter and energy through uh mental effort, and then they can reconstruct into a new form. In other words, you know how Drake Cougar has his car, or that one hammer guy, you know all those different alters. They all have that ability to use the items or even the ground under their feet to make their weapons.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yep. And then the last thing I wanted to mention is that I love also how there's detail in the settings as well too, like the. The point of the matter is understanding, like the political aspect into things. But there's a lot of detail built in the city, there's a lot of detail built in the wasteland and it's like every time you see it you can see the absolute, clear difference into how these work out. And it's like the writing, the art style, everything was made just fantastic. Like to me. I have to say this is a 10 out of 10 because it's just one of those ones of like, yeah, it was wonderful. But I also do agree with you on the manga. The manga it does not do well. They tried changing up a few things. They wanted the manga to be more bloody and cool. You got that, but you changed up story elements, you sacrificed a couple things. It just wasn't all.
Speaker 1:So that's my general take on it gotcha, gotcha mirror jane, what's your take on scryde as a whole? Uh, mj, mj, mj oh.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:Jesus Christ MJ professionalism lunch.
Speaker 3:I'm on lunch, okay, so honest opinion. This is no offense, but this was a boys anime. This was like a pre-teen boys, and not that I didn't like it, it just sometimes the story felt a little bit lackluster. The episodes felt a little bit, um, disconnected, disjointed, like it was a little difficult to follow along with the storyline. Um, for at least for me, just watching it, I enjoyed all the fighting.
Speaker 3:I can't lie, oh yeah like every, every time there's a fight, of course I'm down for it. I enjoyed the idea of alters like that was super cool, especially at the time when this anime came out like I think it was like 2005, something like that. It was 2001 yeah, like at that time it felt different than everything else.
Speaker 1:That was kind of out right then there was a lot of heat coming out around that time.
Speaker 3:Honestly, the art style also reminded me a lot of like how was bebop or outlaw star and um, was it re yo, hey, rio, hey, remind me a lot of uh, oh god when I'm like oh yeah, rioho reminds me a lot of the guy from Koki. That's a little bit. I don't know why I'm blanking on his name right now. Leiluche Reminds me a little bit of Leiluche, but just the style, just a little bit.
Speaker 1:Just a little bit. I mean between him and Zetsuo, his alter ability. It's like, yeah, I can kind of see it.
Speaker 3:It was the look, it was the way he kind of presented himself, how he, like a couple of boxes said, lived in the lap of luxury, and this it wasn't I'm not going to say it's like one of my favorite top teams. I didn't read the manga because it just didn't necessarily interest me to read it, but I'd say my favorite part about it was definitely the altars and the idea of how. I love the idea of how they had to like to obtain the more power it was to see the light on the other side and I love the idea of the altar forest and that was super cool. Um, where, uh, I think uh, cosmo fights, uh fights the the crystal yeah yeah, so that was super cool.
Speaker 3:This was just a really different. It's a different anime, it's not your typical.
Speaker 1:It's not typical in my opinion it's one of those animes where it does have a theme, but it's not that deep. You can just enjoy it for what it is. So that's why I agree with you to where the story did feel a little disjointed. It's almost like most of the episode felt like one shots, like doesn't really really connect until at the end to where. Okay, and now I understand what this uh story is really about by the end of it all. But it's more like it just took us a while to get there, while we form these connections with these characters, where we gotta feel something for these characters before we really get into, uh, what the plot is really about.
Speaker 1:Uh, that's why I was saying with koka gatsu, like I understand, for, like, for nostalgia reasons, I would give it a 10, but realistically I can only give it a 9, because even back then I thought where is this show going? Like I mean, I'm, I'm here for the action, like the action's cool and all and the characters are like, like, say, for instance, kazuma, he's not like just a hothead and reckless and whatnot. He could be uh altruistic and empathetic. You know what, in fact, kazuma reminds me of, I want to say goku and a little bit of yusuke yurameshi in the regard that he doesn't care about being a hero of justice. He just really liked to fight like the stronger the better, in fact. So I kind of like that cosmo's like kind of rounded out as a person. So he's not like exactly a cookie cutter protagonist per se, and neither is ryu ho to where, yes, he believes in this sense of justice and whatnot. But when he found out that hold was up to some bullshit, he was like, okay, I can't fuck with y'all anymore. But that doesn't take away my uh standards and my view of what true justice is.
Speaker 1:And another thing that I wanted to mention is how Kazuma and ryuho it's not one of those rivalries to where they're like, okay, we kind of got off on the wrong foot at first, but now that things change that we kind of come together and reconcile and be friends, fuck all that. They hate each other's guts and they kept that same energy throughout the whole anime and I'm like that was a genuine rivalry. It's like it doesn't matter how things change between the Lost Ground and the mainland. The fact of the matter is I don't like you, you don't like me if I catch you on these streets. It's on sight y'all is extra.
Speaker 2:If I will say only one thing, I partially disagree onto the plot point that y'all had mentioned as far as about the story elements into it, and I want to say partially, for two reasons. One uh, I understand what you mean, mary jane, about it being a boy's anime. There's quite a few moments that's like it's for the boys. Most definitely we will look at it and think like, oh, that's just straight up fucking dope, and I can understand you're like what's the point into it? Um, the second thing about it. So I can't deny that other one. But the second thing is about some of those plot points and I guess, just because of the fact that I actually had a chance of watching the interview, in the fact that, um, some of those story elements that seem like they're one-off and but like going back to what is it you had said jb, at the end you kind of can understand it a little bit more.
Speaker 2:But it was supposed to be kind of like a going for the ride moment, because each of those one-shot episodes was supposed to help elevate the differences between behind the walls and in the wasteland, like the city versus the wasteland and stuff, how much of a difference that their lifestyle is like those episodes that seem one-shotted and it's like, oh, it doesn't seem like it continues on to the main plot point is actually because it's supposed to be there for the plot point of the story, of the development of the characters, but also that understanding of the background, like those episodes were made as a background building.
Speaker 2:And that's what he wound up saying in his interview was the fact that he was like when you watch those episodes, you can clearly see how cosmo is in, you know, in the wasteland, how yuho is in the um, how yuho is in the city. But then later on and like, because technically it was broken up as like season one, season two, so technically in season two when they switch, where you know, like it was more like back in those times, like 26 episodes, it was like two cores.
Speaker 1:So it's like the 13 through 26 was considered season two, but it was actually a core.
Speaker 2:But yeah, go ahead, papa no, but yeah, exactly, and so it's like one of those things. And then the second season, those, some of those episodes where it's not like it's pertaining to the story. It's because, again, they're pertaining to the character developments, because now they're switched, they're in two different elements. Now, like kazoo, kazoo is no longer in the wasteland, he's in the city, he's trying, he's living that life, but he's he's adjusting, but he's also still understanding that there's still bullshit here. And then ryuho he's now having to understand the wasteland more because now he's with cosmo's sister and so he's like yo, I understand the struggles that you guys went through, because the way he was ended up.
Speaker 1:Uh, konami was a friend, not a sister.
Speaker 2:She was close enough to being a sister. Yeah, that's the thing.
Speaker 1:She felt like a sister. But I had to look her up Just real quick. Is that her sister? Nope, friend. Child brain was kind of confused, but adult brain was like oh, okay, I see what's really going on here. That's why, mirror jane, when you said that this is like a show for, like, pre-teen boys, I feel called out because I did watch this show before I became a teenager I mean that's how I felt I'm watching it when I watch, because I'm watching around the same age, right.
Speaker 3:So it kind of just felt.
Speaker 2:Like you've been missed on stuff.
Speaker 1:I was like 10, 11. Yeah, like I was going to say between 10 or 11 when I was watching.
Speaker 3:I was watching Adult Swim, yeah.
Speaker 2:But no, no. So yeah, I can definitely see like and that's one of those ones that's like. It's because this is one of the shows that it has those fighting elements for the young kids to enjoy, but it has those story elements for the adults to enjoy and it's like, that's something that you kind of like. I guess as a dad I can say I notice it nowadays, whereas, like, for, disney is very good about this shit, like, for example, disney's got this, uh, these little shorts for like the cars movies and stuff, like you remember the little cars, lightning the queen and shit. So they got these little stories with mater the old tote, the whole work truck, tow, truck, shit, yeah, and he'd be talking about all these old stories and shit. And the way they portray him is like he's that old man that talks about these old stories that you like. Nah, none of that made no sense. There is no way that that's believable. And then they shows you at the very end that, no, everything, every story he talked about, was actually true. But I'm talking about like, when you listen to the stories the kids laugh.
Speaker 2:But I had a moment I had to stop. Be like yo, what the fuck, wait a second, like dude dude, like he was talking about how he used to be a private detective and I'm like, wait what? And he was like, yeah, this girl came up to him and he knew this girl because they had relations way back before but she cheated on him. So she comes back because she needs some help and I'm sitting here like this is for little kids. This is on Disney Junior. What type of fucking story is this?
Speaker 1:Hey, man never forget that Star Wars was marketed to kids.
Speaker 2:That part, and so you just like wait a second. Oh, because as an adult you'd be like what the fuck? I didn't understand. So it's like Scryde or Scrydle. Anyway, I went back and rewatched. I have watched that thing so many times because I just loved it so much and it's one of those ones that it is one of those shows of when you rewatch it as you get older. There are some things that, yeah, when we were younger you didn't understand those story elements, but now that you're older you can see those story elements that you're just like okay, I can see now. I can see how these characters have gone through their dynamic changes but then still maintain their mindset nonetheless, because both of them still did the same thing. They both lived each other's lives, they swapped lives and in the end of the day, they still said I now understand you, but I still want to fucking kill you because I just want to prove that I'm stronger, like that's just what. And that's one of those ones. Again, mary jane, yeah, that's for the boys, that's just.
Speaker 2:There's no point in today, I mean it's like all that character development.
Speaker 1:Why can't we be friends? No, fuck all that exactly so.
Speaker 2:It's like it's one of those things like look, that's just what it is. Sometimes you just got to prove yourself and this is the perfect person to prove yourself to. That's just what it is. The closest thing I can say for the girls to understand is if this girl who used to be your friend slept with your man, now all of a sudden you have an eternal rivalry with her, for obvious reasons. That's the closest we got. Except we didn't need anything fucked up like that to make us have that rivalry. We just saw this person. It just became on sight. That's just what it was like. Something about your energy just did not line up with mine. And now it's on site and that's just what it is. There's no point to it. There doesn't need to be a point to it, it's just there.
Speaker 1:That would explain a lot when I was growing up as a kid. Yeah, that's annoying the type of people that just beefing with you for no fucking reason, even though you were like the quiet kid, you didn that. Just beefing with you for no fucking reason, even though you were like the quiet kid, you didn't even say like.
Speaker 2:I felt like Spongebob talking to Flash in that one episode where I damn, I didn't even say like two words to the guy yeah, like dude Bubble Bass just all of a sudden just hates Spongebob just because, like Spongebob, he's supposed to be this super nice dude, but he still got haters. Bro, cause you got haters just because you exist? Understand? That's just what it is. Help family out parents. Timmy turner, that's the whole point of the anti-fairies.
Speaker 1:The fairies don't really go against each other, but the anti-fairies just hate the fairies just because that's why they have that saying to where, if you want to avoid criticism, then you say nothing, do nothing and be nothing. Where, when you really think about it's like hey, man, listen, no matter what you say, no matter what you do, there's going to be someone that disagrees with you and some people that just want to straight up fight you just because it's like it is what it is like. You can debate about the logistics of it if you want to, or you just roll with the fact that not everybody's going to like you.
Speaker 1:Yeah yeah, you should be friendly to everybody, but you can't be friends with everybody.
Speaker 2:Exactly. And like you said, JB, just like fuck all that dynamic character entry shit. Like fuck all that shit. Sometimes you just got to be it, just got to be on site and there ain't got to be no real reason for it. I mean, hold on, have you played?
Speaker 3:the Yakuza games Mira.
Speaker 2:Jane, yeah, so you understand that these dudes are friendly with each other but still will fuck each other up just because they're on site.
Speaker 3:Y'all, I got you, I get it.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying so the boys, we're like, we're just straight up with it. I was like, hey man, I just don't like your fucking guts. I'm like, hey man, you don't have to like me. We can settle this out.
Speaker 2:I can take this out, Gentlemen you know, and sometimes respect comes with the ass whooping like shit. Baki says it best. I think was it dope or roachie. He had this one line in baki and it's the perfect line whatsoever. He said this against um, uh, what was it? Tyson, not mike tyson jr? Uh, muhammad ali jr in the show? Well, because they had to change the name for legal reason, anyway ali jr. And shit, he told him. He said I don't care about the fact that you whooped my ass one time. He said you need to whoop my ass so bad to the point that I won't even think about coming back and challenging you again, and you failed to do that. So let me show you how it's done. That's his actual words to him. He said I need you to whoop my ass so bad that I don't even think about challenging you again, and you failed to do that.
Speaker 1:That's the hardest, that's the most for the boys line whatsoever, I feel disrespected because I feel like you're not putting your full weight into your fist, because for some reason, I keep coming back wanting for more. So I feel like you're not really respecting the fact that I'm coming at you with all I got, so I need you to beat my ass with my full strength or otherwise. I'm just going to keep coming at you.
Speaker 2:Exactly. You ain't did enough yet, bro Hell, you keep coming back all the time. You ain't whooped their ass hard enough yet.
Speaker 1:That's just what it is uh, I'm not feeling that, though I don't feel like I'm not convinced that your heart is really in the door I'm not.
Speaker 3:I can't act like girls. Don't have these moments.
Speaker 1:I do hey man listen. Sparking zero coming on october 11th house rules are being reinstated yes, exactly.
Speaker 2:Hey look, I whooped your ass so hard in 10. You ain't challenged me for years, but sparking zero coming back and all of a sudden you think you got a chance. I obviously didn't whoop your ass bad enough, yet we about to do this.
Speaker 3:Let's swear nope, that's me, and my friend Shannon beat my behind so bad I ain't never. Nope, I didn't want to touch a controller for six months, absolutely not.
Speaker 2:Nope that means she did her job properly. So you understand the point, like it's just y'all.
Speaker 3:Let me tell you it's better I'm not gonna lie, it's way better when you've got like a teenager trying to challenge somebody who's been in this game. My nephew challenged her and that was the best get back. I have ever seen my nephew hung up the call Straight up, just disconnected. I was like are you all right?
Speaker 2:Let me finish my last point because I want to give it back to you guys. I have a lot that I would say on tour, but, like JB said, that's what we got to block for now. My last point is the final fight. We finally got a chance to see them squared off in the end and everybody else just had to respect the fact that they're going to kill each other, because that's just what it is. I had to whoop your ass to the point that you don't come back and challenge me and if I gotta, and if I gotta die trying, I gotta die trying. That's just what it is. I loved that fight scene because of the progression. They didn't start off in full strength. This was not no Dragon Ball Z shit. They built themselves up into it. They started off in their weakest forms and built themselves stronger and stronger, as they needed to be. Oh no.
Speaker 2:Goku. Like you know, goku don't well, yeah, no, goku does that, but Vegeta don't. Vegeta starts off full power strength. Whenever he fights Goku, he's like don't come at me, weak, come at me with your full power, nigga, let's do this shit. Okay, fair enough, Even Gohan did that in the manga, but I don't want to spoil that, just saying Like he went straight beast. But yeah, goku's the one that most likes to do that. But these two, they both had their respect for each other. They started off with their lowest forms on purpose just to go ahead and put things together Like so they could. It wasn't even starting to figure each other out. It was like let me see how far you've come as we progress our energies up level. Let me see how far you come as we progress our energies up level, as it starts getting better and better and stuff. And this is where it started getting like. Kazuo was my favorite alter because he reminded me of Digimon Frontier. You know when they digivolved themselves.
Speaker 1:What did he call the final form? It was Proud Fist.
Speaker 2:Yep, and look, I'm not going to lie to you, I had straight up Burning Finger vibes from Gundam whenever he went into his final form. It was uh proud fist. Yep, and look, I'm not gonna lie to you, I had straight up burning finger vibes from gundam whenever he went into his final form and hit his final attack. But then he also reminded me a little bit of like grim joe. When grim joe goes into his uh from bleach, when he goes into his uh full release form, yeah, something with that some reason I was getting that vibe that he was kind of looking like a JoJo stand.
Speaker 1:You know, ryuho had an actual stand, but Kazuma was like transforming into a stand the way he was looking, because the thing about it is that, even though these alter users could evolve their powers, it's like because these two are like the main protagonist, it's like they're being pushed to their limits to evolve their powers. That's why you get to see shit where, okay, they have like new forms, so it's almost like One Piece where they're awakening their devil fruit.
Speaker 2:But I will say one of the biggest aspects into the show, that it was something that the writer that he did say that he had to kind of not necessarily write off, but he had to change it a little bit. And even the manga showed how much that little plot point kind of failed just a moment because it would have shortened the series. As your alter grows, you die like. As your alter evolves, it starts sapping more of your life from you.
Speaker 2:I remember because at the end they would start to deteriorate as their alter powers were developing exactly, but remember, at the end of season one, or like the end of, I have to say season one again, sorry, but because nowadays like you watch it online, it doesn't show it as separate seasons. From what I've seen, it shows it all as one full series. But um, at the end of, like the first half, when cosmo first, like really, um evolves, his alter, his body permanently changes. But every time he evolves his body was supposed to change more and more. He was supposed to deteriorate and he was supposed to lose feeling in his arm, like he was supposed to be like, to the point where until he altered his arm he couldn't move it period, like in his, in his human form. He couldn't do anything because that's how badly evolving permanently changed his body. But then how would that have worked out in the story? So it didn't work out well.
Speaker 2:So throughout most of season two we don't see the deterioration. It almost is like it comes to a halt and that was a failed plot point, but the writer admitted that himself. So he was like it just the way that it started off progressing. There was no way he was going to make it to the end and it just kind of wasn't fair. So he had to hold it off until the final fight, when we finally got a chance to see them actually deteriorate and start really dying more Now as they started using more of their evolved powers. So that was one thing that I'm happy. In the final fight we really got to see that. But that was a a failed plot point in the story. But I'm happy that the writer he admitted himself that he had to halt that because he realized he couldn't do it properly. Gotcha, okay, okay, but that's all I got.
Speaker 1:But but, um, was there anything in general that y'all want to talk about? Because, honestly, I don't want to take too much away from anybody who may want to like re-experience the anime, like if they're watching or listening to this episode. So, like, all I will say is that check it out. On Crunchyroll it's pretty good. It still holds up to this day. The only thing I just didn't like is how I just felt as though the ending felt like a cliffhanger to a degree, to where, okay, who won the fight and what are they up to now? That was the main thing. But then again, once again, at that point, I'm kind of used to anime having these cliffhanger endings to where it could have gone somewhere, but that's the best we're going to get.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that was on purpose too, so I feel on that.
Speaker 1:MJ, did you have anything you want to add?
Speaker 3:on. I will say one thing I did love About. It is At least from my memory. Let me say that I don't remember If there was any Allusions to any romantic interest, like there was no romantic Interest, at least from my memory. Too much.
Speaker 2:I think it was on blue-haired girl Shira's. Yeah, her and Ryuho. You like her and Ryuho yeah, that was the only thing but Ryuho was so focused on and not even so much like completing the mission he was on his Batman grind set. Yeah, he's like we ain't got time for love right now until we handle this shit that we need to handle.
Speaker 3:I like of love right now, until we uh handle this shit that we need to handle.
Speaker 1:So I like how that was, like the back burner, you know. I like how that didn't become.
Speaker 3:No offense to giga. Giga is one of my favorite gundams, but oh, I can't wait to talk about that one. No shit. But um, the the love story in there sometimes took a little, in my opinion, to go away from the fight. If it's gonna be about fighting, let it be about fighting, and that is something that this anime does perfectly got it.
Speaker 1:Um, are you sure that's all you want to add?
Speaker 2:on to. That is all I got. Uh, we didn't spoil nothing from this whole show. To be honest with you. Like there's so many alters we well, we talked about do with a hammer and do with a car. We didn't tell you how funny to do with the car was and you got to watch it to see. So, yeah, no, we didn't really spoil that before you guys. Like this is a general, you know, we like it. There's some points that we like, some points that we hate. When you watch it, you might feel the same, you might feel different. You know, please, definitely let us know. Like I said, we'll get that blog up on the website. And then, please, there's a comment section. Let us know how you feel. Please come on, comment onto it. Tell us now so. Zone-alliancecom.
Speaker 1:With that being said, we're going to go ahead and close this out. Coach, you got to sue MJ. I do thank you for being on the show and I thank you, the dear listener, for tuning in. Remember that we're going to have more episodes coming out. We're going to try to get more episodes added to Patreon first, before it goes public, and we're also not only working on the website, but we're also trying to work on YouTube channels where we're doing multiple types of streams for gaming, cooking, d&d, just a whole bunch of things in general. But until then, you stay nerdy and stay faithful. Great things are coming. We are going to go ahead and zone out of here. So you have yourself a good morning, good afternoon and good evening. Take it easy.
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