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Disney's Encanto: Breaking Free from Family Expectations

JetBlackXtreme, Sebby Phantom Season 16 Episode 1

What happens when the burden of expectations becomes the real antagonist in our lives? Join us on the ZONE Podcast as we welcome the insightful Sebby Phantom as a new castmate, to share his thoughts on Disney's "Encanto," a film that cleverly navigates family dynamics and the hidden pressures that bind us. We explore how Mirabel, the unassuming hero without magical powers, holds her family together, reflecting on how ordinary strengths can triumph over extraordinary challenges. Through personal anecdotes, we connect with characters like Louisa, who embodies the all-too-familiar weight of familial expectations, sparking a conversation on breaking free from these invisible chains.

Our discussion takes a deeper dive into psychological insights, examining attachment styles and their manifestations within family scenarios as seen in "Encanto." We celebrate the film's significant cultural impact and award-winning music, particularly the catchy tune "We Don't Talk About Bruno." The episode also brings excitement about the potential future "Encanto"-themed attractions, enhancing the magic of the film's themes of self-acceptance and familial unity. With humor and heart, we unpack Bruno's prophecies and their amusing relevance to everyday life, highlighting why "Encanto" resonates so widely.

We conclude with a candid discussion on healing and shedding the cloak of perfectionism, inspired by Mirabel's journey and the film's themes of generational trauma. We reflect on Stephanie Beatrice's incredible performance, even while in labor, and how "Encanto" offers powerful lessons on empathy and understanding. By drawing parallels to real-life challenges, we share strategies for emotional release and self-reflection, encouraging listeners to embrace new perspectives. Finally, we offer updates about our website, promising more engaging content and inviting you to join us on this journey of insights and growth!

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Speaker 1:

welcome back to the zone podcast where we like to advocate family therapy and reconciliation. I'm jeff black extreme, but feel free to call me jb, and today's topic is incanto. And joining me today is a new voice, a sebi phantom. How you doing today by the way.

Speaker 2:

Benven you so much, jb. This is really exciting.

Speaker 1:

Oh, hell, yeah, because, man, I really love this movie like I watched it when it was like brand new and absolutely loved it, like the direction that it went. And just now, re-watching it today, I'm thinking, yeah, it definitely holds up as one of those movies to where, yeah, I would show this to my kids, even though I'm not hispanic, latino, but it's one of those movies where it's solid enough, to where you can show this to the family, whatnot? Because sometimes I feel as though people need to understand how, uh, the true villain in this film is not the conventional villain like we will see in movies like Snow White or Cinderella. You know, the villain in this film is the burden of expectation and we're going to get into that right now, so, without further ado, let's talk about bruno.

Speaker 1:

so absolutely.

Speaker 2:

It was one of my favorite movies when I first, when it first came out. As someone who is actually latina, um, this was a movie that represented my family Multiple sisters All have different talents, you know, and it's multi-generational.

Speaker 1:

So it really just hit straight to home. Yeah, I definitely feel you on that Because to a degree Let me be honest with you Now that I'm thinking about it One of the sisters, louisa. She reminds me of my older sister. To where she's multi-talented. She went to the army, she goes to these deadlifting competitions, she's doing great.

Speaker 1:

But the thing is, I feel like she's one of those people to where, even though she has a lot of strength, but I feel like sometimes I got I'm, I'm you thinking like, hey, man, listen, like don't wear yourself out, trying to live up to the expectations that people are putting on you, because you know, um, people can see that she is very good at what she does.

Speaker 1:

But I just don't want the expectations and the stress, you know, because you know stress kills for real. So sometimes when I see Louisa in this film, I kind of think of my older sister. So if she's listening to this, just know I still got love for you. I may not talk as much, but we'll get together whenever you come back into town. You know what, but you know what, stebby, what I do like about this film is how the main thing is with the main character, mirabelle, how she's the one that has no gift, right? And people are saying oh, oh well, what if her gift is like no, no, that kind of defeats the whole purpose of her not having a gift like.

Speaker 1:

The thing is that, um, you have to step back and realize that sometimes you don't need this magical gift to be considered special like right you don't really need to like have some sort of God-given talent to do good.

Speaker 1:

See, mirabelle did her best for the family, even though she wasn't as strong as Louisa. She couldn't produce flowers like Isabelle, she couldn't conjure rain clouds like her aunt or, uh, talk to animals like antonio. Uh, she pretty much did the best that she could as a normal person, and I really hate how people just low-key, like passive-aggressively, try to make her feel bad for not having a gift. But she wouldn't even feel bad if you know the implications you know?

Speaker 2:

oh yeah, absolutely. Um, when in the movie in canto, when mirabelle, you know when the miracles in danger, mirabelle has to be the one to save it. Now, generally speaking, of course her sisters have the powers and so does everyone else. Um, I totally agree with you there. Mirabelle, to me, doesn't need a gift because in the end, she's the hero of the story. So why does the hero need a gift in the end?

Speaker 1:

right, it was bringing the family back together, in my opinion at least yes, that's the thing is like she's the rock that held the family together, in a sense. To where? Uh, she's the one where you know, with that vision, um, bruno's vision, to where they had the glass shard pieces they put together and it showed that, oh well, mirabelle was standing in front of the house on cracking apart. But, like what bruno said, the future, uh, it's not set in stone. It can change any moment and acts like a very, um, ambiguous sign, like it could have meant anything. So they had to revisit that vision and this time, with mirabelle's help, bruno located the reason, what makes, uh, her involved in all this. To where the whole thing is.

Speaker 1:

I like how it was actually. Well, I won't say alma was the villain, but it was her expectations on her family that was driving wedges between all the different family members. So that's why, between louisa, um, getting weaker and low-key, like kind of cracking under the pressure of being the girl who, like, help people move their stuff, because, you know, moving a piano, moving donkeys and whatnot, uh, everybody's like going to her like she's superwoman. I'm like, hey, yo like, just because she's strong doesn't mean like she's still a person, man like. Well, I'm just saying like even superheroes have limitations.

Speaker 2:

I'm just saying to the generational trauma right there. I mean, alma had this vision that everyone needed to be perfect. I mean she even said set that down to her children. Like you, three need to be perfect. And, of course, if you're taught that for so long, your kids, her kids, are going to start pushing it down to their children. I E Louisa holding the family together, holding that rock so it doesn't fall. Isabella going to marry to keep the family together so that the gift can keep expanding. And, of course, just Mirabelle's like I'm just here, what do you want me to do? Oh, nothing, okay, well, I'm gonna figure it out my own way. And in the end, alma's like what are you doing? Why are you causing trouble? I'm just trying to help. Well, stop uh selby.

Speaker 1:

Are you familiar with attachment theory?

Speaker 2:

I am not speak. I would love to hear well, here's the thing, like.

Speaker 1:

I heard about it from a friend of mine um years ago. Essentially, there's this book called attach. Uh, you can look it up. I got it on Amazon. I read it. It was great. Essentially, attachment theory is where how, in a nutshell, how you were raised can affect how you function in adulthood. So say, for instance, there's four main attachment styles there's secure, anxious, avoidant and fearful. Anxious, uh, avoidant and fearful, well, dismissive, um, and then uh, fearful. Secure is the obvious one, to where, if you were in a household, to where everybody showed love to you and there was like structure and nurture at the same time, a healthy balance and whatnot, chances are you're gonna grow to be a well-balanced kid, like mentally uh if the love was there but they weren't that consistent about it.

Speaker 1:

You might have an anxious attachment to where you might be, like some of the I've got this uh simps. That seems like they need to over validate themselves. You know, like what I need to do to make you love me.

Speaker 1:

That's right I think, that's anxious attachment, uh, dismissive attachment is more like you're this ice queen or you like you just push people away or you just kind of dismiss other people's um feelings or whatnot, mainly because you never really had this whole healthy relationship with your family or parents. And eventually that's how the non-committal people, you know the people who like cheating a whole lot, they just get so detached from people because you know they're thinking, oh well, you're just gonna leave me anyways. And that leads into fearful avoidant, which is, I dare say, the worst combination of anxious and dismissive, to where it's a game of hot and cold with them, to where they will try to cling to you at times to make sure you don't leave, but at the same time they try to push you away because, oh, if you get too close then you're just gonna leave. It gets crazy, but I swear it's a thing I should definitely check that out.

Speaker 2:

That seems like a really good read and will probably explain explain a lot of things that is wrong with me and my family so, yes, attached, uh, I could look well, I already mentioned it, but, um, you can find it on amazon.

Speaker 1:

And, not to derail too much from the movie, yes, like the expectations that alma was putting on not only her kids but the grandchildren, because, keep in mind, mirabelle, louisa and isabel, uh are grandchildren. So it's like every time one of the magicals gets a gift, there's now this expectation to where they need to, uh, be the shining examples for the community outside of the family. So in a way, it's like there's this superhero family for this community specifically, and if they fall anywhere short from exceptional or satisfactory, then yeah, grandma's going to be mad at you and you know nobody want to make her mad and blah, blah, blah, that kind of thing. So that's the main thing, to where it's the.

Speaker 1:

Sometimes tradition can be crushing, but tradition shouldn't be vilified either, because it just gives us that structure that you know Don't fix something that isn't broken. So if it works, then it works. But at the same time it's like you got to loosen your grip Just a little bit to where you got to have this loving touch To your family and what not, because you don't want to Instill too much structure, structure to a point to where it just feels like you're just ironically pushing your family away. And then next thing you know you're like how come the kids never call me?

Speaker 2:

right, yeah, encanto, it was one of the best feature films in 2021, even into 2022. I mean, it was released as one of the first motion pictures for the Thanksgiving weekend of 2021. And it even went on to win Academy Awards for Best Feature Film in 2022. And even won three Latino Awards awards and a broadway award as well. So this movie just kept shining and shining, and even today I mean, everyone knows the song.

Speaker 2:

We don't talk about bruno we don't talk about bruno, no, I mean that song reached number one in the Billboard Hot 100s for Disney for like three weeks. It surpassed Let it Go.

Speaker 1:

I mean about time. I mean, listen, like Frozen it was all right. But listen, y'all need to calm down. It's bad enough that we're getting a third Frozen film.

Speaker 2:

I know.

Speaker 1:

I mean, if you're into that, fine, I'm not going to harp on it too much. But yeah, like I don't care, like the first one was all right, I don't need a second or a third one. You know what I? Mean right about in console like I do, like how I'm now learning that there's gonna be a theme for attraction based on in console that's gonna be at the uh animal kingdom in three years from now that sounds so cute.

Speaker 2:

I'm wondering if it's possibly gonna be like a reference to antonio's like bedroom with all the animals. I think that'd be like such a cute display. Um, yeah, again something towards antonio.

Speaker 1:

I don't think he had enough film time in my opinion yeah, like after he got his gift, like he popped in and out, like, say, for instance, when he showed up in um bruno's um little space and he wanted to help out um mirabelle and bruno with the plan to try to restore the family, and that I think it was like a cougar or leopard whatnot was trying to eat the rats and he was like don't eat those.

Speaker 2:

That's my favorite scene. I quote that scene like every day I've got cats, so I'm like don't eat that. That's my scene of all times.

Speaker 1:

I love that but no, you know what? Let's talk about Bruno for real. Yeah, a lot of the visions that he had for the people. Look that could happen to anybody. Like how he said oh, he said that my goldfish was going to die. I'm like bro.

Speaker 2:

I have no hair.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, listen, men lose their hair. It's common for men to lose their hair by the time they end their 30s. So that could happen to anyone it just happened to you exactly, and now you wear a toupee your entire life. Oh, that one guy that said, oh, he said, um, that I'm gonna grow a gut. I'm like hey, bro, do you exercise?

Speaker 2:

that's why you know, what the funny part is is that man who was saying that he has a toupee and that bruno lied, he's actually a priest in that city. So it just makes it even funnier and ironic that he's like oh, Bruno's lying man. He told me I had luscious hair.

Speaker 1:

And even with the magicals, where he predicted that Dolores was going to fall for a guy, that's a trollrolled to another. But it turned out to be like isabel. And then, uh, you know the whole thing, that turns out like isabel. Isabel didn't even want to marry the dude anyways it was like oh well, it works out like hey. Well, if you don't want to marry isabella, then you can all marry divorce I'm like yeah.

Speaker 2:

I'm like, yeah, let's get.

Speaker 1:

Yeah like oh, let's get married. Whoa slow down buddy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so the gentleman who played Bruno is John Leguizamo, and he's got a funny start to his whole career. You didn't know he was actively a drag queen before everything. He played in a couple of drag movies. That was fun, but I think he used some of um his past experience to give bruno some pizzazz, in my opinion. So just if you ever go into watch the behind the scenes like when they're in the booth talking john leguizamo playing bruno like he does the whole swishiness of the cape with no cape I think he embodied Bruno in that entire scene. I think he even wore a bucket on his head for like a while, oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

You know what's crazy to me? How, to this day, I still can't believe that it was Stephanie Beatrice as Mirabelle. Because the thing is, I like Stephanie Beatrice, especially since um Rosa Diaz from Brooklyn Nine-Nine I might do a retrospective on that maybe, but I just love her range to where she was recently in Haspen Hotel as Baggy I know god, like I'm just so impressed by her. Um, she was in modern family, uh, bob's burger was a couple characters, uh she also did in the heights, the newer version of that, um.

Speaker 2:

But what's really cool is that when she sang the song uh, looking for a miracle, did you know she was actively going through labor at that time.

Speaker 1:

I did not know. That's the thing. I knew she was pregnant, but I didn't know she was going through labor at the time, Like wow.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so in the middle of the song, when she's breathing really heavily and singing those very long like I'm just waiting on a miracle, she was literally in active labor and she even admitted, like on a miracle. She was literally inactive labor and she even admitted, like the moment she was done with that song she went straight to the hospital so that just proves that as a voice actor and actress, you do everything and anything wow, I'm like here.

Speaker 1:

I thought I was gonna teach you something. You're teaching me something.

Speaker 2:

I'm all down for learning new things and giving some information that someone else may have not noticed but overall, what else I can say about this film to where?

Speaker 1:

yeah, the main thing about the Casita being destroyed and what whatnot is how they need to reconcile the strained relationship with the family, especially between Mirabelle and Isabella, to where Mirabelle was always kind of like low-key, hating on how Isabella was like, oh, you're so perfect and beautiful, and blah, blah, blah. And then Isabella was like do you think I like all this shit, can you?

Speaker 1:

imagine how hard it is to maintain my beauty and to be this perfect little princess for everybody. And in fact I'm a fucking mess. And then that cat just bloomed and then she realized you know, know what, I don't have to be perfect all the damn time and like I just love that part.

Speaker 1:

You can go honestly, because sometimes perfectionism is another thing that's instilled in the family traumas where, uh, your family kind of expect you to be, like you're not allowed to make mistakes or any shit like that. And I'm like, bro, like understand that you're just looking out for me, but don't forget, I'm human yeah.

Speaker 2:

So isabella is actually the oldest sister and any any latina family knows that as the oldest sister and the oldest sibling, they have more tribes and tribulations Than any other sibling in the family. They have to maintain that Everything looks perfect. She's got to look perfect Because she's the person of the family, she's the woman of the family. So, just again, putting my shoes into the story, I'm the last child, so I feel Maribel inside of me. But seeing that in my own family that the oldest sister is, always I have to be perfection. I just like this movie so much that it's just so like I see my family into this. And yeah, isabella definitely was like I don't want to be perfect and that song is amazing. Don't get to be perfect in that song. That song is amazing, don't get me started on that song.

Speaker 1:

I really love how this is one of those moves that reminds you that you got to unlearn that perfectionism that's been instilled in you. Like, once again, I'm sure that your parents, teachers, your elders in general they don't really mean anything by it Like they're not trying to be malicious, but in a way it's like they're kind of um being how can I put this? It's almost like they have this disconnect to where you got to remember that they're the ones going through something right now. So, even though you may have the answers, you need to approach them with a aura of empathy. I would say, like you gotta be, like look, I understand that you're hurting, but I assure you that the pain will fade in time. But in meantime, you gotta go through the um, proper processes or whatever the case may be like. In other words, like you gotta appeal to their humanity first and then give them the guide to where. Here's how you can go from here. But whenever you're ready, you can go ahead and execute it.

Speaker 1:

Like that, it's kind of like going through a breakup, like yeah, you're not gonna tell him like hey, yo, you need to get back out, excuse me, you need to get back out there. I know like um, at the very least like hey, man, you need time to yourself. Like just um, take some time to yourself. Like kind of process the whole thing, but eventually, for the sake of you know doing better and whatnot you know, get back out there.

Speaker 2:

Like I'm gonna say solid one to two months to yourself before I would say like, okay, at least the next person you date won't feel like, okay, you're just trying to look for a rebound, like you actually had time to like collect your thoughts and whatnot before you know that sort of thing yeah, and I think that's what the end of the movie definitely portrayed, when um mirabelle ended up running the completely opposite direction and finding the river and just having some time for herself before alma came back into the picture and was like I'm so sorry, I didn't mean to treat you this way at one one point. You just kind of have to let everything go. Have you heard of the um the red dye cup trick?

Speaker 1:

Uh, vaguely.

Speaker 2:

So and this was this was a great. When I took psychology in college, this was a great learning experience. You have five cups. The first cup is the biggest cup and it has red dye in it. As you pour, each other cup has water in it. As you pour the bigger cup into the next smaller cup, the red dye tends to go away. As you keep pouring the cups until the last small cup, there's barely any dye there. That's the generational trauma, and so that's how I see it. At the end of the movie, mirabel went to go pour her cup out to restart, and that's how, to me, the house got fixed, casa got fixed, the town was back together, but the mountain was still cut in half. So there's still trauma there. It's just that it's gonna take a while to get everything to get put back together yeah, it's like saying, uh, rome wasn't built in a day.

Speaker 1:

It's like, yeah, you now realize the problem. You know like how you would go to therapy, to where, okay, you now reach a breakthrough. You now realize, uh, where y'all can begin, uh, reconciling and healing from the trauma. But it's not like, oh well, all your problems are solved in one day. No, it's like it's gonna be like a everyday thing, to where, to a point to where it just feels normal that the change is like taking place. You know so, you'll, you'll, you can tell like how.

Speaker 1:

Let's just say that there was some people in my past where I'd rather not go into detail. But let's just say I've been through my own shit and now I got to a point, to where, you know what, I can look at those moments sometimes and be like it's kind of funny in hindsight. I mean, in a third, like you got almost like oh, instead of looking at from a first person point of view, it's like kind of go into a third person point of view and be like you know what in hindsight, I can kind of see the humor and all this like say, for instance, uh, I'm gonna say this is like funny. I'm not trying to make light of it, but you know how you get picked on in school and then when you're going through it like you don't really feel that good about it, but you know years after graduating and whatnot.

Speaker 1:

You, stepping back, you realize you know what. There was. Some things that got picked on was unfair, you know, like being a nerd, and things that I got picked on was unfair, you know, like being a nerd and all that. So that was unfair because it's none of your business what my hobbies are. I like what I like. I'm not criticizing you for what you like you know. In my case, it's about what I like you know.

Speaker 1:

But if it was something like, oh well, they didn't like my clothing or maybe my hygiene wasn't on point or whatnot, I'm like you know what to be fair, yeah, that was on me, like I kinda had it coming. So, alright, yeah, yeah. So I can't really feel bad about getting picked up for most, except for the nerd part. I'm like, hey man, that's not fair. Like I like my hobbies and interests, like be respectful, all that shit other than that. I'm like hey, man, that's not fair. Like I, I like my hobbies and interests, like be respectful, all that shit other than that. I'm like you know what, fair game, right. So that's what I'm saying. Like, sometimes it takes a while for you to realize you know what.

Speaker 1:

I think we can finally move past this, now that we finally got things addressed and whatnot, you know you took the time to like fully process why things playing out the way they played out, like maybe there was like some sort of answer that we weren't looking into. You know, kind of like with the visions where we just kind of saw that face value, that, oh, mirabelle was behind, well, in the front of the house cracking, so she must be the reason why everything's going to shit. And I'm like, no, no, no, um, maybe you need to like take a few steps back on, because you it's like what dave chappelle once said you're standing too close to the elephant, like you can't see the full picture if you're standing too close to the skin. You know what I mean. So sometimes you gotta take some steps back and realize, okay, okay, I can see it differently. Now I can see it, yeah yeah, and mirabelle.

Speaker 2:

Actually, she helps her family break this cycle of this intergenerational trauma by reminding alma survival mode is not meant to be a permanent place, you know, and and that life is the true generation. So in the movie, as we get closer to the end of it, mirabelle begins this unlearning process with her family, including Alma, and at the end, you know Casita. The family home is rebuilt on different values of life instead of just surviving. I mean, alma went through that traumatic experience, like her husband's gone, she's got three kids to raise. I mean, again in her head was just survival. How's my family gonna survive? We're never gonna survive. This meet a bell doesn't have a gift. We're not surviving because this and in the end it was like maybe because we have each other, we don't need to survive, we can just finally live I love that.

Speaker 1:

I love the themes, like how the animation was beautiful, how the representation of the hispanic latino community, um, like we pretty much said, encanto is going to be one of those hits where, with Disney, I'm like you know what Y'all all right, sometimes Fuck y'all at the company, especially with the whole restaurant shit where that one doctor died because she's pregnant, wanted an allergen free meal specifically, and they gave her something that had like something that she was allergic to. She died and the husband was grieving, wanting, um, to sue disney for that. But oh well, you signed up for disney plus for a free trial and because the terms of service, like we can like dispute this and blah, blah, this whole uphill battle and whatnot.

Speaker 2:

So I'm like as a company, I kind of want to go and read those terms of agreement, see if I can find anything about that, because to me, what does Disney Plus have to do with the parks? But that's besides me. Where's the difference there?

Speaker 1:

so I'm like uh, uh see, as a company I'm on to y'all, but as far as, like, making movies, it really depends on the movie. Like, say, for instance, inside Out, we're gonna review those um, I won't say later on this month. Uh, pretty good movies. And then sometimes with the movies I'm like do we really need this? Like, do we really need Mufasa? It's going to get overshadowed by Sonic 3.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it must have. I'm excited for that movie.

Speaker 1:

So I'm like at least we're in concert. I'm like this is one of your hits. I'll let y'all have this.

Speaker 2:

I do have to say, movies that come out on that Thanksgiving weekend tend to be really powerful and they tend to get a lot of hits. I mean, not even two years before that, frozen came out that same weekend, moana the year after and now Encanto, and those are three of the most popular Disney Plus movies that they've ever seen. So and those are three of the most popular Disney Plus movies that they've ever seen, so we'll see what happens this year. I mean, we have Moana 2 coming out.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I got to see the trailer of that, but I am going to watch Inside Out next weekend because it is hitting Disney Plus.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, oh man, like you should have Ah man us. Oh yeah, oh man, like you should have, ah man. Like, if you ever get a chance, listen to the last nerdy news special that we did, because, man, I was geeking when check this out. We did a review on incredibles one and two not too long ago and we were talking about our speculation for incredibles 3, what it would be about and all that, and then, next thing, you know, d23 happens, incredible 3 get announced, and then, next thing you know, uh kogigasu, our co-host, was um, reminding me of how I kind of called that. I'm like, well, you know, I didn't expect um. They didn't announce it like two months after we did the review. But here we are.

Speaker 2:

I promise I wasn't in that room when that happened. That's a Hamilton joke, if you're needing to know that.

Speaker 1:

Oh, by the way, I just discovered Hamilton on Disney Plus while I was watching Encanto. I was like flipping through. Oh wait, hamilton's on there, okay.

Speaker 2:

I'll watch it. Lin-manuel classic movie. Oh, don't get me started on hamilton. That's a whole different breed of mine yeah and oh, you know what.

Speaker 1:

That just reminds me how we're gonna do a whole bunch of reviews on musicals and disney somewhere between November and May. Like, may is definitely going to have a whole bunch of musicals, but we're pretty much thinking about doing a whole bunch of Disney movies, trying to play catch up with some of the classics anyway. So I hope you're going to be on the show for that.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah, absolutely. I'm down for some old Renaissance Disney and of course, musicals Are my specialties. If you say a musical, I've probably Been to the live viewing of it and Top dog man, that's. That is my thing. Spotify is filled With just musicals and broadways.

Speaker 1:

It would be great to have that perspective to when we do Musical month, to where, okay, I'm going to watch the movie and then we'll probably slide to you or Professor Tuck, who also, and also Cy Thomas Match, who's been to live shows, and they can tell us what was your perspective from watching the live show compared to the movie oh yeah, most of, but yeah go ahead I was just gonna ask you.

Speaker 1:

Uh, with that being said, I'm pretty much spent on talk about the movie. What can I say? Five stars, like I would recommend it to pretty much anybody who will listen to me. Uh, do you have anything you want to add on?

Speaker 2:

um no, I think that's it. I also give it a five stars. I mean that was definitely a highlight movie. I mean that's a movie that I will continue to watch, no matter what day or what time it is. But yeah, I recommend that movie for anyone who wants to watch it.

Speaker 1:

And there you have it, dear listener, we do thank you for listening to us to the end, and, sebi, I do thank you for listening to us to the end. And, sebi, I do thank you for being on with me, though, uh, remember to stay nerdy and that great things are coming. We are going to go ahead and zone out of here and, before I forget, our website, our website is back up and we are working on it, where we're going to add some more merch. We're going to get some blogs going.

Speaker 2:

We're going to try to make it look really good. Super excited for that one. We got a new blog coming.

Speaker 1:

Yes, semi Phantom here is going to be one of the people doing the blogs, so check out zonealliancecom. That's right, we shortened it from zelosandtheirentertainmentcom. Honestly, who feels like piping all that shit up? I shortened it, y'all. Zone Alliance, boom Check us out.

Speaker 2:

That's it. That's all you need.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and with that being said, I wish y'all a good morning, a good afternoon and good night. Take it easy.

Speaker 2:

Adios. Thank you you.

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