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Code Geass: Politics, Emotion, and Ethical Dilemmas in Mecha Anime
Can a mecha anime be both a political thriller and an emotional rollercoaster? Join us as we dissect the classic 2006 series "Code Geass" and uncover the layers of its intricate plot that resembles a grand chess game infused with political intrigue, giant robots, and the machinations of a corrupt royal family. We focus on Lelouch V Britannia, whose quest for revenge against his tyrannical family sets the stage for a gripping narrative, all while leading the resistance group known as the Black Knights in an alternate history setting where Britannia has conquered America, China, and Europe. From the impact of his mother's murder to his sister Nunnally's trauma, we explore the emotional complexities driving Lelouch's rebellion.
Ever been confused by alternate timelines in an anime series? We'll guide you through the tangled web of "Code Geass," shedding light on how key events and character developments differ between the original timeline and the alternate ones introduced in the three-film compilation and "Lelouch of the Resurrection." Discover how pivotal moments like Lelouch's staged death and surprising resurrections impact the story. We also delve into the emotional turmoil and guilt surrounding characters like Ash and Jugo, ensuring our discussion stays engaging with unexpected twists and deep character interactions.
How do characters like Lelouch measure up against other anime icons? We debate Lelouch's strategic mind, comparing him to Ayanokoji from "Classroom of the Elite" and Eren Yeager from "Attack on Titan." Our conversation dives into the ethical dilemmas and emotional consequences of Lelouch's actions, scrutinizing the fine line between genius and overextension. Additionally, we touch upon the representation of dark-skinned characters in anime, giving "Code Geass" a nod for its inclusivity. Our episode wraps up with musings on the themes of fame, money, and privilege, examining how they shape the motivations and arcs of the characters in this multifaceted series. Tune in for a rich and captivating discussion that will keep you hooked from start to finish.
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Welcome back to the Zone Podcast, where sometimes life is like a game of chess. It's Jet Blackest Dream. Feel free to call me JB if you wish, and joining me is Mirror Jane as we go ahead and talk about a favorite classic anime from 2006. Let's go ahead and talk about Code Geass for a moment, without further ado. Let's go ahead and go on in Ah MJ.
Speaker 1:What can I say about this series? It's solid, it's pretty solid. Like I would put this on the mecha anime starter pack, or, better yet, the anime starter pack. It's one of those franchises where you can kind of get into it. Like I know a bunch of people are not into mecha anime, and I get that like I don't completely understand, because, you know, as a mecha fan like I'm like, oh my god, what about? Like you don't saying you don't like Transformers. You know what I'm saying. But I can respect the fact that some things are just not for everybody, and apparently mecha anime is just not it for a bunch of people, and I'm like that's a damn shame. But you know what? I'm not gonna get too mad about it, I'm just gonna move on and enjoy what I enjoy. But Kogiyasu, though, is like one big chess game, but with giant robots and corrupt royal family and the main character is like related to that family. But they're like, okay, y'all are on some bullshit, so I need to stop y'all.
Speaker 1:But the main story well, at least the first 50 episodes is revolving around our boy Lelouch V Britannia, or Lelouch Lamparoos, depending on your reference on that. And it's like this alternative world where you know the three superpowers of the world, like America, china, europe and all that. Okay, let's say, for instance, that the Holy Britannian Empire pretty much took over America and the Chinese Federation and Europa United and the chinese federations and the europa united and some of the old head, like the old regime, moved to america and all that. So I was like wait, hold on. If you look at it, it'll seem like hold on, britannia, don't really take place in fucking europe. I'm like no, no, no, no, no. This is an alternate reality where imagine, like what was that one war, the American Revolution, that never popped off? We lost that shit. That's pretty much the setting for a Code Geass here.
Speaker 1:But I guess you can say that the main plot kicks in when Lelouch finds out that his mother died and his sister, nunnally, was so traumatized by his mother dying by the hands of V2, who is the older twin brother of lelouch's father, but through immortality and being able to give people gias, he pretty much have immortality, like uh c2, and he has a younger look, so it kind of like that weird magical power. I don't know, but essentially nunnally was so traumatized by uh their mother dying because um v2 who's, by the way, um victor in his uh side story or game, uh, but we're just gonna call him B2 anyways. B2 was like hey, yo, you're kinda distracting my brother From standing on business, so you're gonna have to go. And Charles the emperor Stood there and was like Okay, whatever, I mean, she was just Some Consort that I found On the street, so why should I give a fuck? And I'm like really, no, lelouch is like really, that's how you feel about what happened to um the mother of your children, multiple children.
Speaker 1:It's not just Lelouch and Nunnally, there's uh Cornelia, who I like, who I like, you know, uh, the woman with a long purple hair, uh rolla well, I don't think, I don't know. It's like a weird family tree to where I'm like what the fuck? There was like a whole bunch of other half siblings of lelouch, like uh, schneider, for instance, he's like the main one that we get familiar with in season two. And before I get too lost in all this, uh, let me try to give you more of the plot so that way you, the listener, can kind of piece together what the hell's going on, because sometimes with this story it's like, okay, what the fuck is all this happening? Like, honestly, it took watching rosea to recapture to make me realize okay, now I understand. In a way that's like easier to wrap my head around, because, honestly, the original series is more like a slow burn compared to Rose. The recapture pretty much captures what made Kogia so great in 12 episodes. So, essentially, lelouch and Nunnally after all that happened with Mother dying, nunnally's lost her sight and ability to walk. That's how traumatized she was.
Speaker 1:The two of them were sent to Japan as political pawns to make the Japanese government have a false sense of security, thinking like, oh yeah, we got an upper hand now. But after the siblings were sent to Japan, japan was immediately attacked and defeated by britannia. So, in other words, uh, luce is feeling a little butthurt that not only that his father didn't give a flying fuck about, um, his mother dying, or that his daughter is now disabled, but also, you essentially spent this out there to die and seven years after that, lalouse now going by, lalouse lamparoos is going to pretty much form the black knights uh, meet the girls um c2 and gains the Geass or the power of kings, whatever your purpose is, and essentially he's gonna leave this resistance of Japanese. Like I almost said a bad word because you know, funny thing is being called an 11 kind of feels like being called the n-word. It's like can you imagine that? Like oh you fucking 11s.
Speaker 2:I'm like whoa, whoa, whoa, I'm japanese they did say that like it had a hard r at the end, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like you can feel the prejudice when they call them 11s, like, uh, when you watch rosetta recapture, like you notice how those britannians were like gunning down, um, the japanese people like dogs and shit, um, and I'm like, yeah, that just kind of goes to show that britannians just think that the Japanese are just so beneath them that, oh, you should be glad that your final moment is being our playthings. I'm like what the fuck? They have some endearing characters, some good characters, some characters not so good. Like, honestly, mj, it took rewatching Rose to recapture when I was like you know, I'm trying to think of Kogia.
Speaker 1:I just kind of reminisce about some of the things that made it memorable, about some of the things that made it memorable. And one thing that kind of stuck out to me was the fact that there was this one bitch that a lot of people didn't like, uh, nina einstein, where she like was got cuckoo for coca puffs also, um, the one that uh helped develop the um freya or freya, um, what was it called. And then I was like, well, you know, she probably died in the last series, oh, I don't care, but then. But then I woke up and Rose got recaptured. I was like what the fuck?
Speaker 2:But then again, I was just surprised.
Speaker 1:But then again I had to stop and think Because, keep in mind, with the original run, in the original run, in the original run, lelouch died after becoming the 99th emperor and essentially tried to take over the world, because this is his way of saying that okay, to make sure that that bullshit that happened 49, 49 episodes ago, uh, never happens again. Essentially, what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna get rid of all these policies, all these bullshit policies, but then that's gonna be a smoke screen to where I'm gonna be like this evil dictator and I'm gonna execute the black knight and make a whole public spectacle out of it. But I'm gonna have my boy, suzuku uh, suzaku, excuse me, um show up at zero to stage my death like. I mean, it's not really staged like he actually died. But that depends like that depends how you view that, because in the original timeline, yes, he died. He's not coming back in a story, right, all right, hold on.
Speaker 1:They made a three film compilation series where let's recap everything that happened in the 50 episodes, except some of the filler scenes are gonna get cut out, and we're also going to rewrite it to where Shirley never died in the compilation films. And then there was the loose of the resurrection to where, at that point, it all followed the recap slash alternate timeline. To where it'll even go even further, to where C2 Once Lelouch Got in the original timeline, essentially she pulled a you know God side and was like you know what.
Speaker 2:Let me go To another timeline and I'm gonna start all over and Essentially In Lelouch, the resurrection.
Speaker 1:Yes, Luce gets resurrected Thanks to Shirley and Jeremiah and they pretty much have this whole arc Going on there. They were like Fighting somebody I forgot.
Speaker 1:That's just a funny thing when I do these reviews like yeah I could do notes, yeah, I could do a script, but what's the fun in that? Like, I just like to vibe, I just like to do things based off memory and see if that works for me. And so far it kind of is, like you know, subjectively, like that's how you see it. But, um, what was it? Oh, yeah, how essentially lelouch and have this reunion with some of the folks from the original series and it was like this movie that they had to fight somebody and in the end l the loose decided to have a quote-unquote marriage proposal to c2 by calling himself l2 and essentially just fucked off into the wind uh, pretty much confronting anybody who happened to have a kiosk and take it away from them if they're not using that kiosk for proper reasons.
Speaker 1:And then that's when we roll into Rosalia, the recapture to where. That's where I got real confused, where I was like hold up, what, what the fuck? But then I had to like that's where I had like my questions and shit, and I had to like go back into the original and all that shit trying to figure all this out and I was like all right, this is still the alternate timeline to where this is the timeline when lelouch didn't die or he got. He did die but he got resurrected, so he's still alive, but for the most part and rose to recapture, it was more like, okay, we're gonna give sakia a giya because one, it might be fun, and two, you know she's family, so why not? And then after that they were like, yeah, you know what after this?
Speaker 2:point whatever happens.
Speaker 1:We're not getting involved like straight up, like you see Colin and Suzaku and not only everybody else from the original coming in from Rose Recapture. But remember, it's the alternate timeline, so it's kind of like member berries right there. But ultimately I was like kind of confused with Lelouch's involvement with this story because it said that he died in the fucking in the very first episode of Rose Recapture. But apparently it was like, yeah, that was kind of staged to where the intention was for him to die, but you know, people found his corpse, decided to resurrect him and then he was like, okay, well, you know what? Uh, now that with this second chance at life, I'm just gonna do right by c to get married to her, and just, you know, fuck off into the wind and you get all the events that happened in rose to recapture which, by the way, I thought was brilliant in a way, to where all the twists and turns, where I was like, okay, first of all I was not ready. Well, the funny thing is and I'm gonna let you talk, mj, I swear to god, uh, the funny thing is when I first saw uh rose take off the wig and, whatnot, rebuild herself, to be sake. Yeah, it was tomorrow. Okay, gotcha.
Speaker 1:I Was like thinking why did this chick look like Lelouch and C2 had a kid and now she's the protagonist? But that's not really true. It's more like she is Lelouch's family, like Weird family tree. Keep that in mind. But that explains why she looks so Similar to Lelouch.
Speaker 1:But yeah, I thought Rose had a recaptured was great, and at first I was thinking like, oh shit, she pretty much brainwashed her father's killer to help her, just so she can end up killing him after all. This shit is said and done. But no, ash didn't kill Jugo. It was more like he blames himself for do go getting killed because you know he was trying to help him escape and all that shit in there. Well, it couldn't be helped that during the escape that you go is gonna get shot and whatnot. And then you go say, hey, man, go on without me, you got a whole life ahead of you, just go on. And if you see my daughter protest, her with your life, all that shit. And then he just felt bad about Jugo dying. That's why he felt like, yeah, I killed him because it's my fault, he died, he's dead and shit. And I'm like, no, see you.
Speaker 1:That's really funny because, yeah, I understand you feel guilty, but by wording it like that, you made Sophia do some shit where, like she kind of regrets the whole thing she was going through, where she pretty much masqueraded as her brother, even though, like that's the funny thing too like she did not know that this uh, her dead sorry, she did not know that ash's dead brother was like a blonde or anything like that. He just like okay, well, I'm just gonna access your memory. Well, I don't know, it was like not really Confirmed, but it got crazy and I liked it. Mj, you got anything you want to add on to all this shit, because I know I was like going off For a moment, but it was like it Like I had to go back and Watch this anime and realize that it did get kind of crazy. But Code Geass just felt a little slower in comparison to Rose Recapture, but that's mainly because you know, 50 episodes versus 12.
Speaker 2:Yeah, code Geass definitely. Code Geass was definitely a longer running pace. It was definitely slow paced and everything was spread out. But I think that's also that's what made it really good, because you were watching the chess pieces on the board a lot, yeah. So like every move had to be calculated and every action had a reaction. But there was a reaction that was already planned by le luche to counter attack. So it was, it was. It was a great watch. But I'm gonna say this and this is controversial and I and I know this I just don't think le luche is that smart. Okay, I said it there, I said it. Lelouch got on my nerves at some point. I just don't think he's the mastermind that everyone thinks he is. I think the guy from Classroom of the Elite could be Lelouch.
Speaker 1:Okay, I got you. I was kind of saying that too at Buddy from Classroom of the Elite, like he kind of downplays his own intelligence because, you know, it's just easier to coast through life when people don't expect too much from you. I get that, but, um, honestly, yeah, I feel like it's one of those, bro you know what? It's funny because we just did a review on it how we would talk about in the boy season four with sister sage. She's supposed to be the smartest person in the world, but I'm like, uh-uh, the way that happened at the end of season four. I'm like I called bullshit on that. I felt like, um, no way you accounted for all that shit. You know what I mean. So I'm like I just felt like that was like, uh, a cop-out for the writer to be like oh well, you know, uh, all according to keiko kuro or something like that same thing, with where it seems like are you really that smart or is the writer pretty much trying to write yourself out of a corner?
Speaker 2:because that's how I felt. That's how I felt watching, like I just and I'm saying this and I am praying to god that, uh, my friend valen listens to this episode because I said it. I said it, bro, like luce, not that smart, okay, and there's other people out there who agree with me.
Speaker 1:I mean, I'm gonna be honest with you, Lelouch. He is a compelling protagonist. Slash antagonist.
Speaker 2:That's the funny thing too.
Speaker 1:It's like, um, lelouch was Aaron Yeager before Aaron Yeager, but the circumstances were way different first of all. But it just felt like one of those characters where you're thinking, yeah, like you're rocking with him at first, up until he started doing some shit, where I'm like, oh, yay, but at least with Lelouch the whole point. I guess you can say that it was more believable to say that Lelouch was framing himself to be the villain the whole time. So we kind of knew the whole time. But at the same time, with Attack on Titan, with Aaron Yeager, it was like he was the protagonist, like the hero halfway through. He was the protagonist, like the hero halfway through.
Speaker 1:And then it wasn't until aaron yeager decided to take matters to his own hands with between the warhammer titan and all that, uh, the founding titan, and essentially he just shifted things to where, oh, now he's gonna be the big bad of everything. And I'm like, at least for lelouch he kind of waited until the last minute to go full villain arc. Versus with aaron it felt like halfway into the series it's like, yeah, the whole villain side of me is gone, now you just get the villain. But the whole time it was like the implication that, okay, because of Hit the Deal. I can't say why, but just know that when shit goes wrong, you're going to have to kill me. I'm like dude, I'm like, hey, listen, listen, I know, I know, but listen, there's only one way we can go about this. That's how I can imagine Suzaku must have been feeling when Luz asked him to do what he had to do with the world.
Speaker 1:Like, do we really have to? Hey man, listen, listen, it's the only way.
Speaker 2:You need to do this. You need Trust me, you're going to have to do this.
Speaker 1:It's like believe me when I say that with this plan, look, I've already done unspeakable Well, not unspeakable as well. I have done things that are like considered irreconcilable, like I can't go through life after the shit I've done. So we might as well do it to where. All right, you take me out, then you gonna look like a hero doing it, and then you pretty much live on the rest of your life and all that shit, because you know I'm going to hell regardless. So you might as well.
Speaker 2:I think that's, I think that's what. You know what. Maybe that is why Leilush was so compelling, because he did have that kind of mentality. He did have that kind of mentality. He did have the I'm already going to hell mentality, but and I also think that that's what made him seem really uh stupid to me at times, because he never took into fact his own feelings, like you're doing all of these things, and he never took into account how he started to feel or how and I'm like, if you're so smart bro, like if you're this calculated, you would have calculated how you feel about all of this to a certain extent and how to navigate.
Speaker 1:That I'm just saying you know what I was just about to mention, how Between watching Code Geass? Actually no, it's funny how some people say that. Have you heard of Guilty Crown?
Speaker 2:I've heard of it, I haven't seen it.
Speaker 1:Guilty Crown. It's kind of sort of like Code Geass, but some people say that to a degree Guilty Crown did something that Kogias should have did in half the runtime. Like Guilty Crown is like what? 24, 25, 26 episodes or so and it accomplished what Kogias was trying to do in half the runtime. So give it a chance. It accomplished what Code Geass was trying to do in half the runtime so give it a chance.
Speaker 1:I'm having to watch that. Yeah, go watch it, give it a chance and once you finish that, run back to me. I would love to do a review on it.
Speaker 2:Okay, sounds good.
Speaker 1:I swear to God, from episode one you're going to be like oh shit, I'm getting Code Geass vibes from all this shit. I'm telling you, I'm telling you.
Speaker 2:Speaking of episode one, first episode of Code Geass Rose, when it started off so good because it set the Britannians up to look worse than they did in Kogias, like the original, because they were gunning the, gunning you. They were gunning them down Sorry, with no remorse, absolutely. And it wasn't like they were psychotically you know how they have that psychotic look on their faces in anime. It didn't have that kind of psychotic look. It literally looked more like disdain and hatred and that shook me. I was like yep, I'm in, I'm totally. First episode you got me because you have made the Britannians complete villains at this point.
Speaker 1:You know what's crazy how? I looked them dead in their faces and my immediate thought was I bet your spirit smells, stink as fuck. It's like you can kinda almost like you can just feel see their aura and it's like this dark green aura and it it looks so unappealing in a way to where I it's almost like you can kinda smell their aura and it's like, mmm, it smells like somebody took dirty socks that haven't been washed in weeks, combined with some fucking doo-doo drawers or some shit, somehow decided to make a whole soup out of it with hot water and whatnot, and then just dump it on a dude. That's what I'm sensing from this. I felt like I just can tell that your entire spirit is ugly, like I can smell how unpleasant your spirit is yo, that's, you could tell I don't watch that TV show thinking this Yo, that's exactly you could tell.
Speaker 2:You know what it was like. I know who you was reading, I know what books you were reading. I know you watched American History X. I know that you were practicing for these moments and then we later on, because it was like two brothers, they both had like red hair.
Speaker 1:I can't remember their names because they didn't, they didn't last long, um yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about, um, but I'm like thinking, oh, the kirk waynes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, the kirk waynes. Yeah, they did not. I know exactly what they they were.
Speaker 1:They gave me skinhead vibes I don't know if I can say that they gave me skinhead energy, not skinhead.
Speaker 2:That's exactly the vibe that I was getting. I was like they, they got it like they and it was the and they carried that you that energy up until the end.
Speaker 1:They come across as the kind of dudes that have, like, the most hateful energy, and they'll be the kind of dudes that be like oh well, I can't help it. I was homeschooled. I'm like uh-uh, uh-uh. No, no, because that is very insulting to everybody that's been homeschooled. Don't do that.
Speaker 2:Story off camera, off recording. I have to tell you because literally I heard that in real life and it was the craziest thing.
Speaker 1:All right, gotcha.
Speaker 2:But that's literally the energy that give. And the last thing I want is when the one, kirk Wayne, who was, you know, he was like playing the chessboard and right, and he's giving out moves and orders to his brother, when, when she ends up telling him like hey, bro, you got a choice, like you could live, do you know how much hate you got to have in your heart?
Speaker 1:He was like I regret nothing. No, and the funny thing is, um scissorman was the same way when he was like I command you to no fuck all that. You think I'm gonna let you control me. I'd rather kill myself than let you control me, like okay, oh, you know what? Uh, I've got his name, but he reminds me of buddy from tokyo, ghoul the old guy.
Speaker 2:Oh, um crap, I know exactly who you're talking about.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like he was giving me that kind of vibe, like he didn't give like those creepy faces like Buddy from Tokyo Ghoul, but he was like damn near close to it.
Speaker 2:Mm-mm.
Speaker 1:Like he was giving me um Mayuri vibes from, um, from um bleach, but somehow my yuri is less creepy yeah, yeah, somehow, that's a good point, somehow because, yeah, you kind of expect my yuri to be a creepy guy, but ironically not as creepy as some of the anime characters I've seen.
Speaker 1:I'm like somehow y'all make my ear you look like a well-adjusted individual, like, yeah, he, he likes putting on his um face paint and all that shit, but like that's honestly like the most eccentric thing about him. Otherwise he's pretty much like a morally great scientist.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he kind of like Stein. Like Stein's a little crazier, but he kind of reminds me of Stein.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that's all it is. Like some people like look creepy, but not as creepy as you think. But then there's some dudes that are like okay, well, sometimes they're as creepy as they look. And sometimes it's almost as if you know, like how you have those pretty boys or the very attractive dudes and you're thinking, oh, there's nothing wrong with them, I don't see anything wrong with them. And then next thing you know they do some really sus shit and you're just like okay, taking a few steps back from you. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:It's almost like you had me and then you lost me, that kind of thing.
Speaker 2:Talking about exit stage left, right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Like how about? That's like saying, um, that guy you like he decided to uh invite you over to his apartment and then you kind of find out that, oh yeah, he likes to collect human flesh. But it's like, where did you get the flesh from? I was like, if I told you I had to kill you, and I'm like okay, no, no, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2:I am sending out an immediate alert to my life 360. If y'all don't know about that app, get it. Um, come save me, come rescue me, like I'm calling a pizza place and placing a pizza order, and make sure the delivery guy does not Drop off and leave. Drop off and take me.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah because uh. You can't make it sound like um You're trying to escape um by calling 911 or some shit. You gotta like you gotta like play it off, like, oh well, you know my bike, uh, okay, but all right, let me talk to him real quick and I'll be right back.
Speaker 2:You're not coming back nope, I'm not coming back, not coming back, not coming back at all, but um, that's what I to say about, like episode one. Episode two was pretty. It was like just driving the story forward, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I was saying. Like the first two episodes were the main ones where, by the time I finished episode two, I'm like you know what I'm locked in. I want to see how this ends.
Speaker 2:For sure, for sure, ends for sure, for sure. And I love how they immediately, like, went to go rescue um the princess, or well well, the decoy the decoy. Yeah, I love how like that was immediate. That wasn't something we were waiting like to episode six, like it wasn't, but that was. That's the biggest difference. Right rose did everything that koki Os did in a shorter amount of time.
Speaker 1:No hold on, hold on, wait a minute. How did you feel about when? Keep in mind, she was undercover like different disguises and whatnot, and she was also raspberry, when she's like working at the cafe. And then ash showed up and he was like, I think, um, you know, spent time with quote-unquote raspberry, and then he went back to the camper, um, told rose his day and I'm like, hey, bro man, I think I'm in love dog.
Speaker 1:I don't know why this me that I met at this cafe and then Rose was just sitting there like I'm going to have to tell him at some point, shit.
Speaker 2:She made her own grave. She had to lie in that one, like, come on you, of course. Of course it's going to be that he has a crush on her and I just felt like Immediately that I felt like that was going to happen, I mean.
Speaker 1:I'm going to be honest with you. I'm not supposed to say it right now. Between Sakia and some of the girls In this anime, I'm like y'all making me at the fuck up with these titties in my face.
Speaker 2:I knew you was gonna say something about it. I knew you was, Because I'm like I was just waiting.
Speaker 1:I was gonna leave her alone for the most part, up until that one girl, yoko, where she's looking built like my Valentine, but probably with shorter hair.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I said the same thing when I saw her. I was like yo.
Speaker 1:And I'm sitting there like god damn, yoko, you're very distracting. Every time you show up on screen I'm just jitties. I'm sorry, but I'm like see, that's unfair, oh, oh, you know what. Another thing that reminds me, kind of sort of segue into it, but can I just say I fucking love and respect the fact that Code Geass as a franchise did more dark skin representation than the most anime that we've seen. Like so many dark skin characters in one show to where I'm like you know what. This should be a certified hood mecha anime at this point, just because at least y'all got some black representation in this shit. Like not just that one character with dark skin, no, no, no, like you're gonna see at least a handful in the whole franchise and I'm like you know what. Y'all have my respect for that. It was kind kind of like Cowboy Bebop all over again to where you saw that one black lady and you were like yeah, you know what, yeah, yeah, yeah, I like the rush to the station, I like how I feel heard when I'm watching it.
Speaker 1:I'm like man, you know what. It kind of pissed me off how there's not enough um dirt skin anime character like no, no, we got you oh yeah, they, they did it, um.
Speaker 2:And not only that, but they, I can't lie, they made these women in this one look bomb, like I have to agree with you like guess we are Catherine like. Catherine could get it. Yeah, catherine could get it.
Speaker 1:I have to agree with you Like guess we? Uh, catherine, like Catherine could get it. Yeah, catherine could get it. Um, the weird part is she was called the white queen when the only thing white about her was her outfit.
Speaker 2:I love that, though I love that I I did because it just because it kind of follows the whole chessboard pieces. Right, she's the white queen facing the black knight, right.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, you know what? I didn't think of it like that, but I'm glad you said that.
Speaker 2:That's what I thought about it.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, I can see that now. Oh, okay, so it was like chess allegory. Alright, gotcha.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:I mean, she was like one of the stronger ones on that whole squad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she's the queen of the chessboard.
Speaker 1:Oh man, oh, go ahead.
Speaker 2:No, no, go ahead.
Speaker 1:You're probably going to say the same thing.
Speaker 1:I was going to jump into a completely different topic while I was still having it on my mind, but I was thinking about New norlin the big bad. How like, first of all, dude looking like he wants to be char, char aznable so bad. And if you're familiar with char aznable, it's from moments of gundam, like uh mask on, pretty much like this strong mech pilot and all that shit. Um, excuse me, but um, essentially ever since Char Aznable, it seems like every now and then we uh see these mech animated. There's always somebody with this half mask on, being all mysterious and shit, and um, the swerve was oh, he's a clone of the emperor charles, so they keep him on that uh weird family tree.
Speaker 1:Safiya is his granddaughter and I'm like, okay, Let me see if I can be straight. So there's Charles. Fuck everybody else for now. Just fuck everybody else for now. I'm just going to focus on the main people in this point I'm trying to make. So we got Charles here and then Derry was the firstborn child to Charles, Like the first princess, the firstborn, and before Charles even came into power, she was like nah, fuck all that, I don't want the throne, I just want to live in peace with my new Japanese husband, and you know, Stalkia was born through that way. But then also keep in mind that Charles had Lelouch and.
Speaker 1:Nunnally and all of them. So I'm looking at this shit like so Lelouch should be Takuya's uncle, uncle yeah. I'm thinking, yeah, uncle, because if Sherry is Takuya's mother and Sherry is Lelouch's at least half sister, like that's just a thing. So that means Lelouch should be Sakia's uncle from the Britannian side of the family. I don't know, it's weird, but that's what I'm saying. Like this weird family tree. I'm like okay. Let me see if I got this straight. Add on. You have anything to add on MJ.
Speaker 2:No, but I'd rather go to that family reunion. Yeah, I need to see that family tree up close and in person, because what?
Speaker 1:like, see, that's, that's the thing. When I was like saying that I had questions because there was just some shit that's going on where I'm like hold on, like y'all kind of losing me with some of these new characters and how they're related to each other and shit, and like bro, I was about to freak the fuck out when find out that Ash and his birder brother, nicole, they were adopted by New Orleans. But keep in mind, new Orleans is a clone of Emperor Charles. So no, that doesn't mean that Ash and Sophia are related. Well, they are by DNA, but you know, know, new Orleans gets killed Anyway so it's almost like yeah, yeah, you know what?
Speaker 1:we're just gonna sweep that under the rug. I mean, it's not Like anybody knew who New Orleans Was really was. It's like who else knew that New Orleans was a clone of the late Emperor Charles.
Speaker 1:So yeah, like he's dead, nobody really knows. So we're just gonna keep it like that. And plus, you know, unfortunately Ash also dies. So, um, no one would definitely know by then. But then I'm starting to think, bro, this is one of those things where I kind of love about mecha anime how underrated this is.
Speaker 1:People die in these shows like Duran Lagan, some mobile suit Gundam shows like Ironblood, orphans strong example to where I was going to give other examples. But you know what, I'm just not going to ruin that for you, to you, mj, and to the listener. I'm just not going to ruin that for you yet. But when we get to it. But point being is that in mecha anime, don't be surprised if someone dies. But it did kind of sting a little bit. Ash died, because when I saw all the other characters you know from the resistance dying off, I'm like, yeah, well, you know, I ain't expect everybody to just survive all this shit and live halfway Ever after. I kind of expected some casualties. But um, ash was the one that stung To where I'm like, but he took out his Adopted father with him. So I'd say that's still a dub, a very Bittersweet dub.
Speaker 2:But still a dub. Still a dub I. I did want to mention this go ahead um, you know who, katherine? This is who katherine reminds me of from coquillas, from, like the original, she reminds me of Chigisa, chigisa, chigisa. She was like one of the leaders Initially.
Speaker 1:From the Kogias.
Speaker 2:Like she was the girl who fell in the water, lost her memory, um, and then she Ends up with, uh, one of the black knights and, like she intentionally, essentially turns into kind of somewhat of a of a, like a housewife, right, but she becomes kind of confused because she falls in love with a Japanese right. She falls in love with an 11 and she doesn't know if, like, by the time she gains her memory back, she's like do I switch? Do I go back to who I was? But I'm in love with this person, right, but the reason that you were, they remind me of each other is because, like, catherine ends up going to the other side and it seems like that kind of completes, like what happened with Chivas.
Speaker 1:I don't know, but that's, that's what I thought about like damn, that's the thing, like trying to go back and try to memorize everything. I kind of forgot about all Chiquita, honestly, but nothing wrong with that nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 2:That's just kind of what it reminded me of. But um, catherine's, honestly, was one of my favorite characters. I gotta say that she was one of my favorites. She was crazy. It's all get out, but she was, I mean I like how her thing was like.
Speaker 1:She was like the main one where you can kind of tell that, yeah, she's gonna be one of those mean bitches.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:At least she was like unapologetic About that part up until, uh, sakura, not Sakuya, not Sakuya but Sakura. She convinced, um, convinced her that True strength comes from Having your heart beat for another. You know that typical Um. And she ended up going up against New Orleans and she was like saying, show me that true strength that you boast and all that. And then she pretty much just gets Perved up really easily, um, oh well, okay, I see how it is. Like you, you don't even think much of me, huh. So I'm like, well, yeah, uh, but I did like how, in the end, she was like she decided to defect from New Orleans and then after that, everything else was said and done. She went to the I guess it was like orphanage or something like that with the nun and whatnot, and she was like, hey, do y'all got any job openings and shit, and she had like this cute outfit on, like with the titties bouncing around. I like that.
Speaker 1:I bet you did one thing that kind of I mean I kind of get it, but then again I'm like, really, did you really have to go that far about it, though, how Sakuya decided that the last thing she's gonna do? Then again I'm like, really, did you really have to go that far about it, though, how Sokka decided that the last thing she's going to do with the Geass is I'm going to make myself go silent to where I will never speak again, so that way I won't be tempted to even use the Geass after this. And I'm like I feel like that could have been another way. You could have gone about that shit, really not trust yourself to have that power and not exploit it. But I, I mean, I understand the symbolism of it because you know the whole point is that you're trying to uh break the cycle of the whole Geass, because that's the whole thing why uh Lelouch is doing the whole uh bullshit where he blames the existence of Geass. I mean, excuse me, he blames Shirley's death on the existence of Geass.
Speaker 1:So season two was pretty much his art to where, once I take over the world and all that shit, I'm gonna do away with uh, all geos. So we're gonna hunt down all the geos users and neutralize them if they're up to no good, and some shit like that. And um, I guess I would say that, um, it would have been great if L2 decided to come back and with L2 and C2 they just come back and be like alright, well, if you're done, then alright, we'll just take our US back. That would have been great, but what do I know?
Speaker 2:That would have honestly, you know a lot, because that would have been better. I would have enjoyed that, because I think what makes the GS exciting is that, whoever it's bestowed upon, it's always different. Whoever it's bestowed upon, it's always different and you never know what you're gonna get or how they're gonna use it. I mean, of course, they're gonna use it for their own benefit, but you kind of don't want to do away with that, like, what if this ends up happening again? What if the 11s end up, you know, being tormented all over again? We need to have it.
Speaker 1:I mean we could do it to where it's kind of like what Attack on Titan did, where I know we shouldn't be making these comparisons like this, but hear me out how, in Attack on Titan, all this shit said and done or just showed up all over again to where it's almost like, yeah, you did your thing, aaron, but it was only a matter of time before the world was gonna break out and we're back into the same bullshit all over again. So it's one of those things where I get the symbolism of it all. If it's like, okay, you, you're pretty much done with the story and all that, but let's be real, realistically, it's only a matter of time before something else pops up where you're sacrificing that war, it will kind of sort of feel like it was pointless. It was pointless, but sometimes some resolutions was simply for the story, but not realistically speaking, to where, oh well, now that this is all said and done, there's gonna be no more wars, no more crimes or anything like that. Everybody's gonna live half way ever after and all that shit, maybe temporarily, maybe temporarily, not permanently it'll always come back. It's kind of like the dragon ball z um effect to where, even though it's not, I want to say that dragon ball wasn't like the first one to ever do this, but it's the most prominent, to where it seems like every time you defeat this big bad that plans on destroying the earth and all that shit, there's always some bigger threat coming along the way.
Speaker 1:That's why goku, in his own way, was like saying hey, yo listen. Um, first of all, a lot of this shit is because of me. It's happening because of me, because, because these people is going to keep coming after me to a point to where I probably need to remove myself from the situation. Hence him sacrificing himself multiple times just to make sure that other evil doers will target Earth again. And also, he was like yeah, you know what, I'm going to need someone to take my place in case, uh, on the offhand, that I'm no longer here on Earth, but the Earth still needs to be saved, so I might as well, uh, train up Gohan to take my place one day, even though Gohan's not much of a fighter.
Speaker 1:But, no, no, no, he'll, he'll get in, he'll Get into it, he'll get used to it, he'll love it Eventually. He may not love it now, but he'll love it eventually. And I'm like no, gohan's not going to do that. I mean, it's like you have to really force Gohan's hand to have him fight. And, as you've seen in Heroes, where I'm like bro, like you did kidnap his daughter so he did have to step in Facts, his daughter, so he did have to step in. So that's all I'm saying is, like these, it's gonna keep happening regardless. But I guess I understand the sentiment of what you did, but I I didn't really have to get rid of your.
Speaker 1:You know like you don't have to make yourself go.
Speaker 2:it also seems to kind of torment their line, like their family line, like I think there's something a little bit deeper there about how it's always. It seems like the other people who are outside of the family who get the guillotine, they they definitely don't use it for good, like ever they never have good or pure intentions ever but it seems like it's an overwhelming responsibility on their family to like have to take up the guillotine and then to defend the world. Um, and I'm so glad Scissorman never got a Giyas, or did he?
Speaker 1:no, he didn't he didn't right that fuckhead Arnold. I think he had like an anti-Giyas, because it was like the Giyas symbol, but it was like his eyes were blue and the symbol was upside down. So I'm like what is that? An anti-geo?
Speaker 2:I guess. So I didn't really understand arnold's chaos. I didn't really get to really understand it. I'm gonna be honest with you but then again hold on.
Speaker 1:Let me pause and say that, uh, yeah, you're thinking with him dying in episode two like okay, he's gone, whatever. But then he comes back like half cyborg and shit. And then Catherine's like oh my god, you're so hot now and I'm like bitch, you're here.
Speaker 2:I'm like Catherine crazy as hell, correct. I'm like dude look.
Speaker 1:Somehow he came back looking more feminine than ever Like, because, first of all, the color scheme just kind of makes it seem like I don't know. He just comes off kind of girly to me with the white hair and it's longer too, and I'm like, bro, where the fuck are you coming from with this new design? I'm like you look more feminine than you did last time and I'm like I don't know. But I guess he'll do some cool upgrades to his nightmare brain, I guess. Oh, you know what, Before I forget, what I do like about Code Geass as a whole is how, somehow the way the mech's mood reminds me of IGPX. Maybe you, the listener, might remember.
Speaker 2:You remember?
Speaker 1:that one PJ.
Speaker 2:I don't remember canonically what happened in the series, but the movement of the mix was so clean and so smooth yeah.
Speaker 1:So that's another one that we're gonna review next year. Igpx is coming next year as far as reviews. But yeah, like Rosie at the recpture just made me realize you know what. That's what I love about the original series, even though for the most part, I just felt like it happened for the most part, like you kind of understand the general gist of what happened in cold geass, but it felt like because there were like so much, so many episodes well, not like a overwhelming amount, but compared to nowadays, to where you normally don't get like 25 or 50 episodes unless uh, it's like really good.
Speaker 1:But um, what I'm getting at here is it took 50 episodes for me to be like okay, I kind of get the idea of what Code Geass was about the whole time alright but with Rosea the Recapture, it's like alright, now I remember pretty much everything about Code Geass, but in a way to where at least it doesn't feel like I'm like kind of lost on exactly what's going on, because for the most part, like wasn't there like one episode where Lelouch pretty much spent the whole day, or like maybe like a couple weeks? Well, pretty much he spent a whole episode of the anime figuring out the extent of his geass. That's what I'm talking about, to where, like I don't mind the filler. Honestly, it's just like sometimes the filler kind of felt like, aside from the occasional war between nightmare friends and all that shit, just kind of seemed like some shit was happening at the school. And another thing, before I forget how this is one of the rare times where you see an actual advertisement in the anime to where they were advertising the hell out of Pizza Hut.
Speaker 2:I'm like alright, well, I think it was also an ode to like to to Cece.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 2:Because she had an obsession with pizza. So I think like why not team up? With. I just got that. After I said it I was like Cece. But I think why not team up with Pizza Hut? Right, it would've been great if they teamed up with Cece's, but why not team up with Pizza Hut and like like they did? Honestly, guess, I'm not gonna lie. Guess what I went and got. Guess what took me so long Getting food.
Speaker 1:What happened?
Speaker 2:Pizza. I went and got pizza. That's what took so long. Your advertising worked Okay.
Speaker 1:Actually, it's crazy how we just have a Pizza Hut built like down the road from where my job is, so it's like man, listen, how is it that we have so many different restaurants? They want to still show up at the restaurant that I work at? God damn. They still show up, they still show up, they still eat.
Speaker 2:God damn these show up. They still show up. God darn these people for wanting to feed themselves.
Speaker 1:I'm like man here, I thought People going to surprise me by going out and having something different. Like you know, like for once, can y'all not be basic bitches and come into our store, want the same thing every goddamn day and when we like close and shit, because you know we close um two days out of the week. And then it's like that Spongebob on things where, um, you're thinking, what do you normally do when we're closed, like wait for you to reopen what? No, I shit you not. Like it gets kind of crazy how People want their food so bad. Like, not just at this store, but at multiple Places where I worked, at when I'm walking in there, it's going to be 10 to 20 minutes before opening. Right, and tell me why these people are pulling up, acting like it's a zombie apocalypse, where they're just trying to get into the building and we're pretty much just trying to um gear up to open up the doors and shit. But it just seemed like they're all at the windows and shit, like, damn, y'all open, let me in. I'm like do you see the sign? Like, until it hits opening time, I'm like the doors are gonna be locked.
Speaker 1:I'm like I don't know why y'all showing up this early? You know what? That's why I'm like, as a courtesy, I do not show up to restaurants during the first or the last hour that they are running, because I feel like, hey, man, listen, like I'll go, as someone who's been through it, y'all go through enough. As it is like I'll catch y'all like at the tail end of your lunch rush or dinner rush. So that way it's like. It's not like I'm gonna show up right during the down times where I'm pretty sure y'all trying to rest up. So I'm like, let me just try to catch y'all like right at that sweet spot between y'all almost done with your lunch brush or your dinner rush. But, um, it's not like I'm getting. I'm making y'all get up out of your chairs or whatever, because sometimes, like cheers, like it's whatever you can, um, sit your ass down. But I'm going to get back into Koki's review. What you got.
Speaker 2:No, I was going to say on that note, and then we'll get back on Koki's. But California, the restaurants there, or at least in San Diego, let me say that when they say they close at 9 o'clock, that's not what time they close. They stop serving food at 8.30.
Speaker 1:Did they say they close at 9 o'clock?
Speaker 2:that's not what time they close. They stop serving food at 8.30.
Speaker 1:They didn't close at 9 o'clock. No, no, no, no, no. See, that's what a bunch of places I've worked at. Yeah, that's what we had to do at this point to where I'm like look here, Like yes, we're still open, but in the last 30 minutes y'all ain't sitting down for the food, Like y'all better take your shit and leave.
Speaker 2:Yo get into the go, like no, they don't even let you order. Damn, they will not let you order a thing. It'll be all of them. It'd be all the restaurants, like no matter, unless it is like a, of course, something that's 24 hours, something like that, but other than that, no you, I mean they close at nine o'clock they stop serving at 8 30?
Speaker 1:yeah, because, um, my thing is, once it's closing time, nah, we, we're trying to get out the door by that time, like, say, for instance, if I was working at a place where we close at, let's say, 10 o'clock, bro, we are out the door at 10 o'clock. Not entertaining people like that would piss me off too. That's why I can see why they have that rule now, because I swear to god, dude, like, if they chances are they're gonna be like this one party of people, not necessarily a couple, like one or two people. Nah, it's like it got to be a whole party for some reason, where they will show up in the last 15 minutes and then don't leave for an hour. I'm like, bro, we got places to be and y'all wanna act like let's make this moment special to it. Oh well, we're the only ones in the restaurant zone, let's get a restaurant to ourselves. And I'm like, bro, like y'all are holding up people that's trying to go home yeah, I'm not gonna lie, yeah, yeah, I've seen people do that.
Speaker 2:I've been there, I've done it and did not because I did it when I was way younger.
Speaker 1:I mean immature, you know, when you don't realize like, oh you know, before you had a job oh wait, um, I didn't stop to think that the people who work here actually have lives outside of work. That's the most offensive thing, honestly, how some people just act like people got nothing going on outside of their jobs, like if you're on the clock and I was like why are you in such a rush, why do you have to be so fucking bad?
Speaker 2:I'm like away from here at my house. Is that any of your business?
Speaker 1:no, I'm like, first of all, that's none of your business. Second of all, like as a fellow human being, how would you feel if I show up at your job, um, harassing you, making you stay later than usual because I want to get things done, but nah, you gotta be here on my time? How do you feel about that exactly? Y'all don't think about how other people going through, like y'all don't think about how much uh work y'all put on other folks where, like you, show up to the store, one, this, that and third, yeah, like it can't be helped that all y'all wanted to come to the same place and want the same thing or different things, but y'all still came to the same place.
Speaker 1:Excuse me, but all I'm saying is that sometimes, for some reason, people act like empathy just out the window, as long as we getting what we want, like we don't give a fuck about how you feel About, we want what we want. So go back in that kitchen and make our food and I'm like See, this is why restaurants be having High turnover rates how people would get, and not even just restaurants, it's like different places, like different places Like retail or what not. But the whole point being is that we need to treat Others like Fucking human beings. Can we like stop acting like we're supposed to be tireless Workaholics when we're on a clock To where, oh, you should be?
Speaker 1:Listen, listen, yeah, yeah. But you have to understand that we're tired, like we just been busting our asses like non-stop for hours, and it's not just one day, but just imagine going day after day, week after week, month after month, just doing work that just somehow just drains the hell out of you. And then you show up talking about oh, don't you give me attitude. Not that I ever gave them that much attitude, but I'm just saying like, can we like treat other people like human beings, like, especially considering that sometimes you can have a jobs where you're kind of depending on that tip money to get you through the uh next paycheck. You know what?
Speaker 1:I mean yeah, it's like. It's like some people aren't getting paid that much. So when it's one of those jobs where, oh well, if you want to help out the staff, like, just throw a little extra money into the tip chart, I'm like, oh, I kind of don't want to be dependent on the tip money because that kind of implies that you can just lowball me with the wages to where, like, if we're getting good money and tips, then that also means that there's not much motivation to raise the pay rate. You know what I mean. Instead of getting a pay raise More frequently, it's more like We'll throw you a few extra cents Every now and then, but God forbid if they hit you with. Oh well, you know you guys were doing so well, we decided to treat y'all to pizza, y'all like Pizza Hut. Right, because remember Kogi, they did Pizza Hut.
Speaker 2:Shut up. I was going to ask you how much you think they paid the Pizza Hut drivers.
Speaker 1:How much you?
Speaker 2:think they paid Sakia for working at that coffee shop.
Speaker 1:I don't know I mean, but then again she's royalty, so does she even need the money?
Speaker 2:Bruh Bruh, you know what? It was cute though.
Speaker 1:You know, what. Who was that? It was, I think. I'm trying to remember her name, but it's like one of those women that's like she's supposed to be a big deal but I just didn't really care for her. She essentially is like an actress or a singer, but she decided, you know, it'd be cute cosplaying at a walmart employee to where? Let me work at a walmart for a day and I'm sitting here like lady. It's not like you need the money. What are you?
Speaker 1:doing here I'm trying to think what was her name like, I think like Charlie, something I don't know hold on.
Speaker 2:I gotta look this up.
Speaker 1:If she was an actress either an actress or a singer. I think it was Charlie D'Amelio, like okay.
Speaker 2:Charlie D'Amelio.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, I won't say Astrid or Singer, she's more like a Social media person. Okay, so she is like someone famous, but not like uh, I get you you know, but I'm like it was something like that. Um, but let me see, just like, yeah, we're pretty much all googling it now like we're. I'm cute.
Speaker 2:Yep, it was her pretending to work as a cashier at walmart.
Speaker 1:Yeah, this one article is like uh, charlie d'amelio uh gets called out for cosplaying as a walmart cashier. And I'm sitting here like I mean I kind of get it. I don't know, it's more like one of those things where, oh, you must have money If you can just afford to cosplay as a Walmart cashier. I'm like Aw man, don't do that to us, because we're going to be looking at you like the fuck are you doing here?
Speaker 1:It ain't like you need the money. But yeah, apparently her and her sister Dixie. They both did it and people were mad about that.
Speaker 2:Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1:I mean I wasn't mad, but, like I said, like yo, I mean, what is this doing? What is this doing for y'all? Really like it's just something fun to do yeah, I don't, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Weirdos, that's what happens when you become tiktok famous oh yeah, speaking of which, um, did you hear about that one girl? Um, I've got a real name, but the hot tour girl. She has a podcast now and she's like suppose we get lined up to be making like big money. But the funny thing is like, hey man, first of all I'm not even mad at her like get your money, but just the fact that her whole thing was based off making a blowjob joke.
Speaker 1:Like I just think that's funny, like I'm glad you think it's funny I mean just a circumstance of it all where I'm like, just imagine like it could have been anybody that made that joke. But the fact of the matter is she made that joke that blew up. She's now.
Speaker 2:Launching a podcast Called Talk.
Speaker 1:To Us. Yeah, and she's now doing all that All because she got that whiff of fame From making that joke. And I'm just sitting here like bro, like people are getting famous off shit that anybody can do, yeah it.
Speaker 2:It makes absolutely no sense to me, but I guess, so I'm, I'm, I guess it's like you really have to be in the right place at the right time for that shit I guess okay and even then, like sometimes you just gotta know people, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1:Like sometimes you gotta have the connections for that, because I think I think it's the right place, right time.
Speaker 2:I think you could still got to be able to look the part. I still think, because if she didn't, if she wasn't cute, let's be honest yeah, you know what.
Speaker 1:I'm so glad you said it and not trying to be some sort of black pilled incel like, because I know some of y'all probably listener. Don't, don't assume this of me, but um, all I'm saying is I kind of realized this one. Somebody said a line that I'm like you know what. I can believe that, but at the same time the rest of the world is trying to convince me not to believe it. And the thing is, mj, sometimes you look how you're going to get treated pretty, uh pretty privilege is a thing, I think.
Speaker 2:I also think, uh, ordinary privilege is a thing too, because sometimes, if you just average, you kind of get treated averagely, which isn't always a good or bad thing. But yeah, I agree, sometimes you look the way you're going of get treated averagely, which isn't always a good or bad thing. But yeah, I agree, sometimes you look the way you're going to get treated and she did not. She looked the part, but she also did not sound the way everyone thought she was going to sound. She has a country twang, so it's unique and everybody want to be like, oh, that's cute and I'm like to. To me she's average, to me she's a basic girl.
Speaker 1:but you know what that reminds me. That reminds me now. I got something to say off the record when we're done oh my god, okay, okay, but um you got anything else you got anything.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, go ahead yeah, I was gonna ask you the same thing, like do you have anything else? Because it's like what I was telling Professor Tuck and everybody else where I'm like hey man, what do y'all want from me? Like it's a solid series, like between the OG to Rosetta Recapture solid series. Like between the og to rosetta recapture solid series. Don't really need to say too much on the series other than give it a chance. I highly recommend it. It's on my mecha anime starter pack. It's on my anime starter pack in general, like. In other words, like say, for instance, you're brand new to anime and I'm like all right, since you're brand new to anime, I will recommend code giat to you after like the 10th recommendation, because, like I don't want to like get them into it like immediately, because I don't know like I want the uh first 10 shows to be like okay, you have to watch these shows. Like these are like cornerstone staples in the anime community. Like, in other words, I'm trying to save you from being grilled by everybody else to where, like you're saying you saw all this and that. But imagine if you never got around to watch like demon slayer or jiu-jitsu kaisen and people gonna grill you like you didn't see that yet. Man bro, you need to get on that shit like, see, I'm trying to save you from that shit. So I'm like hey, man, listen, go ahead and knock these out the way and come back, and then the real work will begin later. Because, honestly, I would say, get the mainstream ones out the way, because the basic bitches and the new wave people are going to be the main ones Going to be talking about the mainstream shit. But meanwhile you have the OGs, like myself, to where I'm like look here, I've been watching anime way before it even got popular. So I have a long list, but I'm'm gonna start off small with you. You know what I mean.
Speaker 1:So what can I say about cogeos? I would say I would give it a as a whole, from original to rose, to recapture, just call it four because it's great. But it's like one of those franchises where, okay, I'm pretty much understand what's going on here, but at the same time it just doesn't have that charm to where, like it'll make you want to revisit the series. It's more like uh, uh, unless you're like me to where you're just going back into it for the sake of reviewing it. It's really a one and done kind of franchise to where you only really need to watch it like one good time and be like, okay, I enjoyed it. I'm moving on now.
Speaker 1:So four out of five stars, I would give it a solid, a minus because, like you said, mj's, there was like some fault like how lelouch, probably less, not as smart as he, less on, like I feel like sometimes it's just a matter of the writer trying to make him seem as smart as he actually is, but then again we can say that about a lot of characters and a lot of franchises and a lot of shows yeah, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 2:um, I think my final take on it, I'd give it a solid six. I think it's a solid six. I think it's a solid six out of ten. Yeah, I give it a six, but I will say I'm mad that Chuck was on here and be like a six Chuck would have way too many baby bubbles, I mean no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1:You know what? No, fuck all that, Because I'm never going to forgive your ass for what you said about Samurai Champu. Excuse me, I'm a counselor, my words, that's pretty easy. I'm like you're going to call that shit art trash. I'm like you better fuck out.
Speaker 2:I can't. I'll never forgive him for that, Not to mention never mind. I'm not even going to go off. I'm not going to go off. Because you can't even watch old school. Just watch it, just suck it up. If you just watch it, just suck it up if you watch.
Speaker 1:if he watches the Rick and Morty it makes no sense how he's not a fan of this one, but if he watches the Rick and Morty anime, I'm punching him.
Speaker 2:That's it like lights out, because I didn't watch it yet that animation for me, the animation I can't. I mean it's somehow worse than the original yeah, and it's so, and it's like they were trying to play off like that FLCL. Um, oh god what's that?
Speaker 2:other anime. It's like they were trying to kind of play off that kind of art style, but they went way too left with it. I can't anime. It's like they were trying to kind of pay off that kind of art style, but they went way too left with it. It's I can't. I can't watch it.
Speaker 1:I watched first like do you want to review fully cooey? At some point I'm thinking like it feels like a november review. Oh, we'll see yeah sure, I don't see why not fully cooey, yeah's short too, so I'm like hey man, you can knock that out in a fucking day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we can do FLCL yeah.
Speaker 1:You know what, listener, that's all we got. I would highly recommend Code Geass, at least for the one time. And, with that being said, let's just go ahead and pack it up and zone out of here, mj. Uh, I do. Thank you for listening to the end. I thank mj for um being on with me for this review and just remember, stay nerdy. Great things are coming. Let's go ahead and get up out of here. So to you, dear listener, have a good morning, good afternoon and good night.
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