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Sailor Moon Cosmos: Magical Girls, Character Evolution, and Nostalgic Elements
Ever felt like the pacing of your favorite anime just didn't do justice to the emotional moments? We totally get it. This week on the ZONE Podcast, we're diving into the highly anticipated English Dub of "Sailor Moon Cosmos" on Netflix. While some of us found the two-part movie's speed a tad jarring, others appreciated its unwavering faithfulness to the manga. Usagi, MJ, and I share our thoughts on the nostalgic elements, progressive aspects, and our mixed reactions to the film's narrative and pacing.
Remember Tuxedo Mask's evolution from the original "Sailor Moon" series to "Sailor Moon Crystal"? We sure do, and we had a blast comparing his character development and contributions across both iterations. From his often-criticized minimal presence in the original to a more active role in Crystal, Tuxedo Mask's journey is worth exploring. Plus, we couldn't help but draw fun parallels between him and Yu Yu Hakusho's Kurama, considering their creators' shared history. And who could forget Usagi's lovable, relatable humor in the original series? We certainly miss it in the more somber tones of "Sailor Moon Cosmos."
But that's not all! This episode also dives into the sibling dynamics and family favoritism within Sailor Moon, spiced up with our own personal anecdotes. We discuss our favorite Sailor Scouts, from Sailor Jupiter's inspiring strength to Sailor Pluto's enigmatic charm, and even confess our anime crushes, including the universally adored Levi from "Attack on Titan." To wrap things up, we tease some exciting upcoming projects and remind you to stay connected with us on social media. Stay nerdy, everyone!
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Welcome back to the Zone Podcast, the show where I'm secure enough in my masculinity to say that there are some female-led stories that I genuinely enjoy. I'm Jet Black Extreme, and joining me today we have Mira Jane, and returning is Usagi. We're gonna go ahead and talk about Sailor Moon, specifically Sailor Moon Cosmos, because that just came on Netflix English Dub like a week ago. So let's go ahead and zone in on that. So I watched it right and for the most part I did like it. But I'm going to be real with y'all that pacing was fucking jarring, like y'all like slow down for just a moment. It felt like y'all going a mile a minute, like um thanos snapping on the sailor scouts into dust, and it felt like characters were having an emotional 180, like this one part where it kind of bugged me a little bit to where I knew she was like kind of either brainwashed or she was like repressing the memory. But the part where Sailor Moon like I know her name's Usagi, but since we have Usagi on the podcast, I'm like that's gonna get confusing. Sailor Moon apparently Mamoru Got, uh, his Sailor Crystal Snatched by Sailor Galaxia and she was like Kind of Repressing the fact that that it had to happen. It was so Fast, though, like she fainted Right. And then, you know, the Sailor Star's come scoop her up, like trying to give her a ride home. She wakes up and I was like hey, let me out, I'm like okay, you sure? Like oh, yeah, I'm good. And then she pans to the house. She wakes up next morning like almost like nothing happened, like no, no, he's fine, he's fine, he's in america, like he'll write, he'll call and whatnot, like kind of pretending it didn't happen. But I'm like, ah, this feels so weird, like that's the thing. That's why I kind of appreciate the old og series a little bit, because at least with that one it felt like here's the funny thing.
Speaker 1:I thought of sailor moonlight because I was a power ranger fan. I'm thinking, okay, so there's no giant robots, they're not wearing spandex and helmets, but they're wearing like sailor uniform, even though they're sailing uniform. I want to say that's regulation, because I'm pretty sure you don't wear, um, knee-high boots and the sleeves should be like At least down to your wrist and the skirt isn't supposed to be that short. But hey, as a dude I'm not complaining.
Speaker 1:But for the most part, with the plot where, okay, essentially, sailor Galaxia is trying to collect all the sailor crystals, become the strongest uh sailor in the whole galaxy, or, dare I say, the whole universe. I don't know why there's being so sandboxed about it, like instead of the galaxy. I'm like you might as well take over the universe with power, like that. But um, for the most part it's about sailor moon going out to defeat her, but turns out that on galaxia was being manipulated by chaos. Who in the future, gonna be sailor chaos?
Speaker 1:And, uh, sailor cosmos, who's a future version of sailor moon, goes back in time, but she de-aged as Chibi Chibi and tried to make sure that the past version of herself is making the right choice as far as how to go about destroying the cauldron and all that. So, yeah, for the most part, like when the pacing slows down, or at least you kind of stop to think about all the events that's happening. It's not bad. I just didn't like the pacing. Other than that, that pretty good. Uh, opening up to the panel, let's start with usagi. How do you feel about?
Speaker 3:sailing in cosmos. Um, I I honestly really liked it. I really enjoyed it. I'm a huge sailor moon nerd, so I kind of you know it kind of went along with the, the manga, which was pretty great. Like you said, it's a little fast paced, but honestly I really enjoyed it. I'm not gonna lie to you.
Speaker 1:I cried so many times yeah, like you're thinking like, okay, all these different sailors are getting dusted, and then, oh man, the really part that got really fucked was when she got up to the castle and I'm like, all right, I'm going to go save my friends. And then it turns out her friends was attacking her and she was like, no, that's them. I swear something must be wrong. And then she was like wake the fuck up, that's not them.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like that part was so, like was so really good. I honestly thought it was really good, because I watched both the 90s version and Sailor Moon Cosmos. I honestly think it's pretty good. The 90s are more like fillers and stuff like that, but the manga version is pretty good. Yeah, I like how they showed Chibiusa and her guardians that they fought, because they didn't show that in the 90s version. I thought that was pretty good.
Speaker 1:Yeah and oh, you know what. That reminds me how I did part one of Sailor Moon with some other people before Cosmos came out, where I was talking about how, with the differences back in the day, shit like Sailor Moon, cosmo with the Sailor Starlight, that wouldn't scan, that wouldn't pass back in the day because I guess society wasn't ready for dudes that can transform into women.
Speaker 3:Yes.
Speaker 1:It's like, let's be real. What I love about Taylor Moon was that it was progressive before his time, but it didn't do it in a way that's like very aggressive, like how it's being portrayed now to where it's like it's all on your face. I'm like, hey man, look, I get it. But y'all need to calm down.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 1:MJ, you got any thoughts on the movies?
Speaker 2:yeah, absolutely, it was amazing. It definitely brought me all the way back to my childhood rewatching the series. Now let's be honest, right, I can't say Usagi Sailor Moon.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Sailor Moon. And I want to say Endymion.
Speaker 1:Between your actual name and your screen name.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Sailor Moon and I want to say Endymion. So bad, but I know it's not I know it's mama, yeah it was either him.
Speaker 1:Or like see, here's the funny thing, like I was saying, like I was so committed to the japanese names because, like fuck all that, because when I found out that, oh wait, um, so you mean to tell me that they had completely different names, and all that but, they had to make it like catch on in America, so they had to Americanize their name and also can I mention how Sailor Neptune and Uranus they were cousins they were kissing cousins, let's just say.
Speaker 2:But even when I was younger I could sense I was like something, something they not just cousins, but uh. The love story between usagi and mamoru is like it was relationship goals. Okay, it set a standard and I realized it wasn't real. But when you're like a kid and then you're just like, oh my God, he's so romantic. And then to see him get dusted at this age, I was still hurt. I was still like how dare they? How dare they do that to my tuxedo mask? Like I know Sagi can probably use my butt, but still, and within the first few minutes, like I didn't even get a, I didn't get to even spend that much time with him At all.
Speaker 2:But it made that moment so impactful for me and honestly I think it was a great way to start up the series. The pacing I can agree with you guys, it was really fast-paced. But with my anxiety through this whole thing, like after he was dusted, I was like please get to the end. I just need to know if he's alive, I just need to. And I honestly think the pacing was for fans like me who was like yep, nope, I need to know he's got to live.
Speaker 1:If he doesn't live, then I'm cutting this show off completely and forget Sailor Moon, like just forget everything he has to live but I feel like if the movies would had a more comfortable pace, sailor Moon costumes will probably been twice as long to where I'm pretty much locked in for six hours just trying to get a whole bunch of exposition dumped on me yeah, I, I agree, I agree to that, but I I was focused on my brew.
Speaker 2:I'm not gonna like there was a.
Speaker 1:I shouldn't have been that okay, but I really I want to talk about him real quick okay and I like how you mentioned his and sailor moon's relationship how, I'll admit, and sailor moon crystal much better. Hell, even him is like an improvement to where he does shit, instead of in the old d series. He'll like show up, throw a rose on the ground and be like hey, I helped, but you didn't do anything and like I'm off, bro, oh, okay, okay but no no, wait, wait a minute.
Speaker 1:But let's, let's also talk about how, in the og series, not gonna lie, their relationship kind of was either toxic or bipolar, because like they act like they hate each other, but then when they're wearing their uniforms and whatnot, it's like they love each other and shit. I'm like this is like the most bipolar romance I've seen in anime. Like what the fuck? And then also you know what I'm looking at, superman, right, and I'm thinking perhaps I treated you too harshly Because at least as Clark Kent.
Speaker 1:All he had to do is just wear the fucking glasses and people would be like they won't tell the difference. Usagi no mask, like yo, like originally. Originally the show was gonna be like Sailor V, where you know Venus. Um, what's her face? Start with it. Uh m?
Speaker 1:um, sailor venus yeah uh, she was supposed to be the original uh protagonist but they were like, nah, you know what? Uh, I get no, check this out, power rangers casting. Let's kind of model it like that. And I'm like, okay, cool, cool. So we're gonna have like five girls like wearing these colorful uniforms fighting demons and whatnot, and okay, that can work, we can work with that. Now, listen at least. Then sailor b wore a mask and I'm like, okay, fine, because you're supposed to be like a vigilante. You're not. You're a teenage girl. You're not really supposed to be out here fighting crime and shit. So I can understand that you're trying to keep your identity secret. They are not wearing masks and we're not. We're supposed to believe that nobody's gonna see together that these five girls are running around fighting demons and aliens and be like rolling up in school like, hey, what up? I'm like no, um, what you been doing. I'm like no, I'm in the room.
Speaker 1:I don't like, all right, gotcha now hey so you checked out those serious guys from the long news like they could, um, really doing shit. I'm like, yeah, yeah, like never piecing together. I'm like, hey, y'all kind of look alike.
Speaker 3:Oh, my God.
Speaker 2:Honestly Okay, okay. So I just want to point out something. I just we know the creators of Sailor Moon and Yu Yu Hakusho are together, right Like we know they married.
Speaker 1:I love that, by the way. I do too.
Speaker 2:But I want to point out that Tuxedo Mask was always doing a rose and who had the rose? Whip Karama. I just want to point that little nugget out, that I think that there was something going on and I think there had to be like a connection between the two. So at times when he had to throw the rose and leave, it was because he was moonlighting as Karama and leave it was because he was moonlighting as Karama.
Speaker 1:It's kind of like having that one guy show up to give you some sage advice and then he just fucks off and I'm like, but are you going to help us? We're kind of getting beat bad. I'm like, ah well, you know, I'm not that kind of crime fighter. I'm more like the kind of guy that tells you what you need to do in hindsight.
Speaker 3:That's true.
Speaker 1:That's so true, but no, at least in Crystal he did more in Crystal, like he had more magical power and shit. So okay, I liked him in Crystal.
Speaker 2:He was great in Crystal, I have to say he redeemed himself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm like I have to say he redeemed himself. Yeah, I'm like I'm not gonna let you slide for that in the OGs where, like, all you did was just throw a rose on the ground Like man, you don't get the fuck out of here. But um, speaking of which another thing I like about both, but it was more prevalent in the OG series the comedy. And I'm like, oh my god, sailor Moon, how can I put this? She kind of cracks me up sometimes with the slapstick, the facial expressions. Sometimes she had a little cry baby at the minor inconveniences. And I'm just looking at you here like, why are you like this?
Speaker 2:I miss that a little bit. I think there was a little bit of a lack of that in Cosmos, like it's like they were trying to make her really really super empathetic and sympathetic and make you really feel for her. But there was something about the funny moments that she would have in like the original series that you'd be like like her falling flat on her face was always hilarious to me. Anytime she tripped and fell dead on her face, oh my God. And those moments is what made her character somewhat endearing, because even though she was whiny and a lot of people did find her annoying, those moments she felt like a real average teenage girl, like you could relate to her in the fact that you're not perfect, you're clumsy, you're kind of still trying to figure things out. So I kind of miss that in cosmos because it really she really felt like this ethereal being in cosmos yeah, it's like at least in the series.
Speaker 1:It felt like man usagi's always going through something but oh, I'm like she's just constantly going through it, like I'm just waiting for her to put on the album About how she's like Having drama with her boyfriend, like infighting With the Sailor Scouts, constantly grinding, always a monster of the week, it's all that shit. I saved the world three fucking times Before I even graduated high school and I am and I am exhausted dog okay, okay.
Speaker 2:So you mentioned uh. You mentioned something earlier when the fact that uh, oh, like, oh god darn, I keep trying to say Sailor Moon, um, when Sailor moon first saw uh mamoru get like dusted right, get, you know, snap dead in her face, she looked like she was put under a spell. Was that maybe part of uh mamoru's psychic powers because I know he has some psychic power, right something, some weird telekinetic thing? Could that have been the? Could that have been something that he did in the final moment?
Speaker 1:no, no, no. I don't want to believe that. Why? You want to know why I don't want to believe that? Okay, you're making me think of twilight. The way, um, when edward left, um, bella was going through it so bad. It was like she was hallucinating the man being right beside him and I was like, oh no, maybe I need to kill myself so he'll come rescue me. I'm like man. No, I don't like the implication of that. I'm sorry. I'm sorry for bringing that up.
Speaker 3:No, I believe she was like in a trance and then when she saw jupiter and mars, but when it happened to them, she um, I mean jupiter and the uh, mercury happened to them it kind of she kind of like snapped back and realized that it was actually true.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was brainwashing at first, but no she was like repressing the fact that it happened to Marmora.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she was like no, that didn't happen. He's an American, you know.
Speaker 1:No, no, it's like, um, like I said with Brooklyn Nine-Nine, it's like he didn't die. I'm in denial.
Speaker 3:Yeah, pretty much. That's pretty much what it was.
Speaker 2:That is very true. Like, thinking about it, it that was the statements that she was making, so the trauma of the situation, like she was so traumatized by it that she like I mean, wouldn't you, though, like he was about to propose, and everything? I'm like bro like I would have came back to them. Girls like yeah, we getting married, I'm moving to america. Forget all y'all. I don't need y'all no more.
Speaker 1:Forget being a sailor scout like see, no, like see, I would've If I saw Sailor Galaxia. If I was on Sailor Moon, I would've rolled up to Sailor Galaxia and gave her like the meanest bitch slap, because how fucking dare you swat, block me like that.
Speaker 2:How you ruin my proposal, my proposal.
Speaker 1:I'm like really Now.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, oh, did y'all think that she had like? Ok, when Chibi Chibi first appeared on the scene, right, did y'all think that she had a second kid? Because I did. I was like, oh my God, it's a second kid, she's so cute, right. But I also thought it was Chibi Usa, like just coming back, like something weird mystical had happened and she was like younger all over. But you realize it's not the same person. You're like oh, because she keeps saying she's Chibi Chibi.
Speaker 1:That's the funny thing too, because I like how just like with Chibi Usa, chibi Chibi used her magical powers to convince Sailor Moon's family that oh well, you know I'm your daughter and I'm like, okay, sure.
Speaker 3:Pretty much Facts.
Speaker 1:She put that Jedi mind trick on and I'm like you have three offspring. I'm like you have three Sif, you have three Offspring. I'm like oh yeah.
Speaker 2:You have three Children. Let me go cook you breakfast out of nowhere.
Speaker 1:I'm like, oh yeah, tb Ussuf, that's your Brother's daughter. I'm like, oh yeah, I do have.
Speaker 2:Wait, I have a Brother oh yeah, not, oh wait, I have a brother, oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Not, oh wait, I have a brother.
Speaker 2:Listen, the family reunion is going to be real weird. That family reunion is going to look real weird. No, hold on.
Speaker 1:I think the funniest part and I feel like in this case I feel like all the funniest bits Chibiusa kind of took the spotlight on that to where the part where they thought that either that was Chibiusa's baby sister or that it could have been Chibiusa's daughter from the future and she was like oh whoa, wait a minute that part was so adorable and funny.
Speaker 2:It was so cute.
Speaker 1:I think it was also kind of funny how for a split second because keep in mind that she was Sailor Moon's actual daughter Like I find it really cute that she had a little bit of jealousy. She was like who the fuck is this bitch, did you?
Speaker 2:adopt a child.
Speaker 1:You think she's better than me?
Speaker 2:Right, that gives total sibling energy.
Speaker 1:I was like, yup, I get it, I'm not good enough for you, so you got to adopt a new kid. Okay, that's how you come along.
Speaker 2:That's how me and my siblings are about my mama. We be like we be fighting each other, like, excuse me, that's my mama, no, that's my mama. Like we have the same mama, but today she not yours, she all mine. Don't touch her, don't talk to her, don't look at her.
Speaker 1:They kind of do feel like that sometimes you gotta fight a little bit, maybe with my sisters. It's like, nah, I'm gonna throw them, but I don't care. It's like it's kind of like saying being the golden child, but I'm like, hey, I'm holding it. You right, I am the golden child.
Speaker 2:What you gonna do about it, especially to my brother. He hate it, he hate it.
Speaker 1:So much, but for real, though, they would say that I'm the meanest child. I'm like, I mean, you're not wrong.
Speaker 3:Yeah, my siblings say that about me too, Like okay.
Speaker 1:Okay, and.
Speaker 3:Yeah, pretty much Like okay and I'm like I don't care.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, you have to be that way with them. I don't know why they like that. They're just haters, it's fine. Yeah, honestly.
Speaker 3:I was my mom's favorite, but then I moved out. But it's okay, they can have her now.
Speaker 1:You want to know what the crazy part is. This is probably the only time I can mention this organically, but I read out of nowhere I think it was a reel how Selena Gomez said that she has a sister right and apparently her sister who's not famous is the favorite, and I'm like really Her over.
Speaker 3:Selena.
Speaker 2:That makes sense. That makes sense. It's something there I always knew it was. They knew something was wrong with her. They was like mm-mm. Other child, she's our favorite. No, I'm joking, Come on.
Speaker 1:At least it's not like half these Disney kids where somehow, for some reason, they just walk out of the Disney studio all fucked up and shit. Meanwhile at least with Selena she's one of the ones that dodged the laser beam. For the most part, she's doing good. She's coming back for Wizards Beyond Waverly Place.
Speaker 2:She got a singing career and all that shit. She doing good. I mean, you know congratulations, but why you not the favorite? I got questions. You know what I think it is.
Speaker 1:Sometimes it could be the jealousy it be like oh well, you know I'm doing so well for myself and I'm like oh how come you don't send some of that money back on home?
Speaker 2:I'm like please, you know what?
Speaker 1:maybe you might be on to something there yeah, it's like oh, so you think you all that because you're famous now, oh God. Oh, you think you got on, you're doing your little show, not little show.
Speaker 2:I'm going back to your little show now. Get on up out of here, go on. You think you a little famous now you just a little famous.
Speaker 1:Okay, you can sing a little bit, so okay. Sing a little bit, so okay.
Speaker 2:Don't start. Jb, don't start. You know how I feel about singing. You know, I wanted to be a singer so bad.
Speaker 1:For that I gotta do a musical number, okay.
Speaker 2:Going out the window. Jb the fenestration. So I've learned have to do it.
Speaker 1:It's about the window, jb the fenestration. So I've learned that love is not self-sufficient, and I've learned that love won't win. Now I've learned that love needs expression, but I learn To breathe.
Speaker 2:It looks like I sang it, but I'm jealous so I'm not. No, Like. I'm not, I'm not, but go ahead, finish your little song. You did good.
Speaker 1:No, that's it, but, um, anything. Oh, let me think yeah, y'all got anything Y'all want to add on To Sailor Moon, like anything in general.
Speaker 3:The ending had me in tears During their wedding. Yeah, y'all got anything y'all want to add on to Sailor Moon, like anything in general, the ending had me in tears during their wedding. I took my eyes out I'm not going to lie to you. When he was like, and you're the most beautiful star, like, my heart just melted. You know what I mean. I know their love story is so beautiful, beautiful.
Speaker 2:I love them so much like there is something that just transcends time, and it's their love. It's so perfect and and I, can I just pay someone to pretend, and can I just pay someone to pretend I'm just sitting here like.
Speaker 3:I mean, it was aight.
Speaker 1:You don't understand okay, I was like, of course a male would not feel anything about it.
Speaker 2:Not a thing, not a single thing. Jb, how are you not moved? How are you not planning your final wedding, like, how are you not planning to marry right now, after seeing that?
Speaker 1:Because MJ, because MJ, because if I get married, I'm scared that I'm gonna lose half my shit.
Speaker 2:The man said immediately I know it's done, I lost half.
Speaker 1:So Was it worth it, kinda sort of.
Speaker 2:It's absolutely worth it, according to tuxedo man for real bro and you want me to tell you what I love about this, though and this is something I did not really pay that much attention to but the fact that he was actually going. We have to realize he was going to go make himself better so that way he could provide sailor moon the best life possible.
Speaker 1:Okay, he was going to school overseas and I'm like this is why you're the man it's like don't worry, baby, I'll call you, I'll write you and like would you visit sometimes?
Speaker 2:yeah, like it's. It's all the things, like whoever was writing well, I know who wrote it, but her. It's all the things that every girl wants to hear, but never got it. It's like you're waiting for the moment too. You're like, actually.
Speaker 1:If I want to be that guy about it, y'all don't want to hear it from an ugly dude.
Speaker 2:Alright, you got a point, but that ain't the point right now.
Speaker 1:I'm like Maybe it's not the message, but it's usually the messenger.
Speaker 2:It's not the point, but it's usually the messengers, it's not the point. And sometimes now hold up. Sometimes the ugly dude could be the worst dude. Well, I'm just saying they not safe, they not always safe.
Speaker 1:Like bro, I'm not going to lie. Some of these dudes look like I don't want to imagine them possibly reproducing because I just imagine them having like the most goblin looking. Stop, I'm like bro, like, listen, like, if you're going to look like that during sex, you're not allowed to produce children.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, Not oh my God, but oh, let's not talk about that right now. I'm not going to say that All you got to do is just go watch the NBA drafts.
Speaker 2:That's all I'm going to say Just go watch the NBA drafts. Just go, alright, just do it, because if I say anything more, it's going to be a whole conversation. I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to do that, but it will bring the ugly, dude perspective. You're going to be like maybe they should procreate, maybe Possibly, and it's also going to be.
Speaker 1:No, I'm going to watch the NBA draft and be like why are you talking about that man?
Speaker 3:That's not fair, that he was built like that.
Speaker 2:You know what? Who said they shouldn't? I'm saying maybe, maybe that they have potential for someone else.
Speaker 1:Not for themselves.
Speaker 3:No because I'm saying that you should know better you know what?
Speaker 2:Who is you guys' favorite sailor ship? Nah see, nah, nah nah.
Speaker 1:Remember when you were like nah, nah, nah, nah, nah. You know what I'm gonna?
Speaker 3:leave it alone. See Um, my favorite sailor scout is Sailor Moon.
Speaker 1:I like Sailor Mars she's cool, okay Okay.
Speaker 2:Sailor Scout and Sailor Moon. I like Sailor Mars, okay Okay. Sailor Mercury and Sailor Jupiter.
Speaker 1:If I could combine the two it would be perfect, because I love the smarts of Sailor Mercury, but I love that Sailor Jupiter will whoop your butt, listen, I took karate classes because of Sailor jupiter, yes, no, no, listen, listen this one scene where I saw her in the gardening club and I'm like you know what this encapsulate um sailor, um jupiter in such a very beautiful way to where. When I saw her in that gardening club I was like see that right there. That's what you call a warrior in the garden, rather than being a gardener in a war.
Speaker 2:Snap yes Poetry. You said it Because she looked so graceful and elegant and you get to see such a soft side of her there. I really love that Because OG, OG, Sailor Jupiter. She had those moments but she was still tough in the moments. Yeah, she still had a roughness and an edge to her. But yeah, I'd say Sailor Jupiter is Sailor Jupiter and Sailor Mercury are my favorites.
Speaker 3:I feel that I like that.
Speaker 1:Well, to be fair, sailor Venus is cool and all Not leaving her out, but I'm just like you know they're cool.
Speaker 2:She's just like a carbon copy of Sailor Moon.
Speaker 1:It's like we just get two of them.
Speaker 3:Yeah, true, true I don't know, I really don't like sailor venus. To be fair, oh, what's that? I don't know, just I don't know. I just didn't really like her, like in the 90s version, the older version. It's just the way she acts. I guess I don't know okay, she has a complex.
Speaker 2:She kind of acts like she's a little superior.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like a god couple. You know like I don't like all that Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.
Speaker 1:You know what I liked about Sailor Mars, to where, like she was kind of like in the OG version she doesn't really do this in Crystal, but in the OG version how like she had like this love rivalry going on with Sailor Moon. As far as Mama Ru, she was applying pressure on Mama Ru, I'm like oh.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to lie to you. I hated Sailor Mars for that. I was like you're a homewrecker, you're nasty, you're wrong.
Speaker 1:No, no, no. It was like more and more twist. She was standing on business like, hey man, if you're not going on, get your man, I will. And I'm like you're wasting time. I'm like I'm already five steps ahead of you and you're barely even that fast.
Speaker 2:So I'm like she was just jealous, okay.
Speaker 2:She was so jealous and I could not stand her. I could not, honestly, if you watch In yasha, I think the reason I hate kikyo is because I originally hated sailor mark. I think it translated over to kikyo because jesus christ, sailor mark, like she, just I could not stand her and og. And even when, like it didn't work out and she calmed down, I still was side eye her, waiting for her to become evil. I was like I can't wait, I know her any minute now, any minute. But salem mars, you know what? She's my least favorite. I'ma just yep, we're gonna leave her right there at the least favorite. Sailor Venus is second, though, because I don't know what she did.
Speaker 1:I feel like we need to make a tier maker video on these different sailors, because right now I would say that I do like Sailor Mars. I do, I think. I think Sailor Moon is funny, so she's definitely up there. Everybody else was decent, but also I also like Sailor Pluto and Saturn. Like as far as like power scaling, I like them okay, that's a good.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, sailor Pluto with her door of space. She had some unique powers. Yeah, and she was beautiful.
Speaker 3:I would say Sailor Pluto is my second favorite. Yeah, I could see that she's nice, yeah, I mean her.
Speaker 2:And um, who was the other blue-haired one, sailor? Uh, not Pluto Neptune, sailor, neptune, yeah, Sailor Neptune. She was cute. Like I loved her in cosmic, oh my god, when she got jealous. Like I feel, when you're, when uranus was like, feel like they're trying to take our spot, feel like they're trying to one-up us, and she was like no, oh, you know what that reminded me of?
Speaker 1:how, like in the OG series, what I didn't like about Um, uranus and Neptune, how it seemed like they had Like this on and off beef With the Sailor Scouts, almost like they just seemed like as far as writing, they just seemed kind of Confused. But In Sailor Moon Crystal they kind of fixed their character to where I'm like, okay, they're not totally bipolar about the situation.
Speaker 2:I don't know what was their deal in this OG series, but yeah, I agree, because I was confused, because I thought they were against them at one point.
Speaker 1:But I think the, I think the, I think like really it felt like it felt like um, power Rangers Ninja Storm, where there was like the Crimson Ranger and the Navy Ranger and yeah, they were like against the main Rangers at first, but the whole thing was at least. Then. It was like they were went from bad to good. Meanwhile, with Uranus and Neptune it was almost like they were going back and forth, like sometimes they're on their side, sometimes like, oh well, they reminded, like oh yeah, you're the enemy of whatever. It was weird, like I don't know what was going on, but they kind of got over that at some point.
Speaker 1:It was like this yeah, and that was another thing that at some point it was like just yeah, and that was another thing. Um, in the movies specifically, one thing that I didn't like is how it just seems like it took them at least a whole movie or like half of one movie for them to finally come to terms that wait, there's other sailor scouts. I'm like, yes, yes, you met, okay, the sailor store like the uh taylor, uh amina, right, um, they would go after and those um metal version, you know, like it was like different, like copper, iron and whatnot it's like yes, yes, there are more of you.
Speaker 2:And then someone's like wait, there's like like I, I'll be honest with you, I was with them. I was like, hey, it's a bunch of y'all I don't know what to say about that.
Speaker 1:It just felt like they were being dumb for some reason. I get it.
Speaker 2:I get it. I think I was playing dumb with them, yeah.
Speaker 1:Is there anything else? I feel like I covered most of what I wanted to say. For the most part, yeah, I still like the series as a whole. I'll probably get dumb high and watch all over again just for the honk jokes. I really love it.
Speaker 3:I hope they make Chibi Uso her own anime with her own sailor Scouts and all that. I think that would be pretty nice. That would be so adorable because, like like my niece.
Speaker 2:I'm doing her a whole Sailor Moon themed like basket yeah for her. I'm thinking, oh, chibi, usa 2099 I'm hoping that, like that happens, because I don't necessarily want her to watch, because, like I don't, I don't want her to develop a crush on mamoru way too early, like it is too soon like no, no, wait a minute, you gotta check this out.
Speaker 1:In the OG series, remember the?
Speaker 2:Black Lady arc. Yeah, I mean I get that, but we talking about now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I mean they did it now.
Speaker 1:All I'm saying is it's already too late for that concept.
Speaker 2:Like she. I mean, I'm just saying that, like you know, she ain't gonna watch that. We not. We gonna start her with Salem and Crystal, okay, we not going back Mm-mm, mm-mm, we gonna act like that didn't happen for her, okay, until she old enough, when she like 30. You know, then she can go and watch it on her own when she's 30. Mind you, she's nine right now, so 30. I got a long time, but, um, yeah, I, I just uh, I loved it too. It was, it was super fun. I love Sailor Moon. There's nothing like it. There's nothing like Salem Moon did such a good job of combining strength and femininity without making it overbearing, and that was such a beautiful concept to me growing up.
Speaker 1:So Salem Moon is amazing and can we just say that, if anything, the one thing that this show well, this franchise is famous for, it's the transformation sequences, where, to this day, we were just watching suicide squad isekai and everybody in that show was doing the sailor moon transformation sequence I'm like, are y'all for real, y'all still doing shit like this.
Speaker 2:Oh my God, when you see like your favorite artists, like Doja Cat, doing it in a music video, you're like what is happening? It is so inspirational, monumental. And then you gotta, you know you gotta think about Ronin Warriors, cause that would be no key, like they was killing them, transformations. And you say it too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, and how prevalent transformation. But there was something special about Sailor Moon bending her back for that wrap, to wrap around her that way. I thought if I bit my back hard enough, that it would happen. It don't, don't do that. Don't bend your back like that.
Speaker 1:Bro. I like how the transformation sequence made it look like their uniform is made of silk or Egyptian cotton. I'm like, oh man, what y'all got on. It sounds like y'all got on some Gucci or some shit that really fine quality material going on.
Speaker 2:How breathable is that uniform'm curious about usagi's hair, because I mean sailor moon's hair, because everybody I don't know if this happened to everyone out there, but when we were going to school, girls my age wanted the angelica hairstyle. That's what they wanted. They wanted to have angelica hair. My butt was sitting up here saying I want to be like sailor moon. So give me the exact same hairstyle, but I'm gonna put like these little red bows in it, so that way I look like sailor moon and y'all be angelica.
Speaker 3:But I'm better because I'm gonna say sailor moon hairstyle is so cute, yes it was so there was nothing like that. I was like, oh my god, I just if I could transform into sailor moon then my room would be all mine then well, he was my first anime crush, so, like I feel you 100 it's crazy because, like I didn't even know what a crush was.
Speaker 2:When I'm crushing on him, I'm just like what is this feeling? I just know I want to see him every day why am I attracted to this anime character? Like what, and he only appears with a rose in his mouth and then disappears.
Speaker 1:I mean, in this case at least, I get it Because, MJ, sometimes your taste in men, specifically fictional men, worries me.
Speaker 2:Okay, Alright, you ain't even gotta put it out there like that. Like what? Like what worries you? Give me an example, that's okay. Like what worries you? Okay, Give me an example Bakugo. First of all, I don't have a crush on Bakugo. That's different. I will defend him until the day I die. I do not have a crush on Bakugo.
Speaker 1:All right.
Speaker 2:I love the character, though, so Give me another one, because I knew you was going to bring up my baby. But Vodka Go is just my baby. That is it.
Speaker 1:There was someone else, but I'm drawing blanks right now. I could have sworn we talked about it before. I'm thinking like no, even I wouldn't blame you if you said Sebastian Miquelas. I'm like nah. I get it, he's cool.
Speaker 2:Okay, I'm going to say this Maybe this is, maybe this is, it's not problematic Karama, you know, yoko, karama, you know, and Hiei, both of those two At different points of view.
Speaker 1:Okay, Karama makes sense. Hiei makes me worried about you Because you do know he's going to slap the shit out of you and then not going to feel bad about it. I'm like, oh, baby, treat me so fine. I'm like mj, why you let that man treat you like that?
Speaker 2:he is so sasuke ish, but I didn't have a crush on sasuke. That was the weird part, not at all okay, all right, check this out.
Speaker 1:Out. What about Aaron Yeager?
Speaker 2:Not a crush, but I will defend him to the day I die. He was right, aaron was right. Not a crush, though I don't find him attractive. So, okay, levi is attractive, but I feel like he's everyone's crush.
Speaker 1:No, I'm going to get you because you did say that you be attracted to bad boys in fictional works and I'm like he's a bad boy.
Speaker 2:There we go. I'm attracted, something about that little nubbed off man that just does something, don't know what it is. When he says dragon of the darkness flame, I'm like, absolutely, I will go to the fiery pits with you.
Speaker 1:But um yeah, you know what, I'm pretty much good. Y'all got anything y'all want to add on to Sailor Moon. No, I just love it so much gotcha I just feel like we were like kinda running out of steam so I'm kinda brain farting too.
Speaker 1:So I guess that's just my sign to go ahead and close out the review. Thank you, ladies, for joining me on this review, and I thank the ladies and gentlemen listening to us to the end. I remember to follow us on social media Facebook, instagram, twitter. We are working on a YouTube channel in the future. We are working on our website. We're working on a bunch of things, but until then, you know, stay nerdy. Remember that we're going to make things happen and we're going to go ahead and zone out here. So have yourself a good morning, good afternoon and good night. Take it easy.
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