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Suicide Squad Isekai: Gotham's Rogue Gallery in the World of Anime
What if you mixed DC's notorious villains with anime tropes? This episode starts with a lively critique of various Suicide Squad adaptations, from the 2016 flick to James Gunn's 2021 reboot. We also dive into the new "Suicide Squad Isekai" series. Initially skeptical, both Talos and J.B. were pleasantly surprised by its fresh take on villains in another world. Talos even bumped his rating from a zero to a seven! We discuss how characters like Clayface shine in this new setting, bringing an anime-like excitement to their arcs.
We explore a shocking revelation where a character is unmasked as the Joker, analyzing how it compares with the subtle foreshadowing found in the Spider-Verse series. This chapter also dives into the hypothetical powers of the Joker and transitions into our thoughts on the "Peacemaker" series. John Cena's performance and the show's blend of comedy and action get the spotlight, especially memorable moments like Peacemaker's ridiculous elf disguise.
We wrap things up with a deep dive into Harley Quinn's evolution and character transformations. From her complex relationships with the Joker to her newfound independence, we leave no stone unturned. We also touch on missed opportunities in character arcs like Clayface and King Shark, reflecting on the broader trend of isekai evolution in anime. As we gear up to launch our YouTube channel next year, we give you a sneak peek of what's to come. Stay connected on social media, and get ready for even more nerdy content!
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Welcome back to the Zone Podcast where we like to do nerdy news. It's Jet Black Extreme and joining me on Suicide Squad Isekai. Well, not just the anime, but you know what. Let's just go ahead and zone in on this. So, anyways, I'm checking out the anime, right, american anime, you know what anime?
Speaker 1:Cartoons, uh, but I was watching the show, right, and this reminds me of how, ever since the 2016, it's almost as if they keep trying to make something that's better than Fucking Christ. That film was so bad, like it felt like from a filmmaking point of view it failed, like you can just tell that it failed from a film point of view, not just storytelling. You can do a bunch of things right from a filmmaking point of view, like, say, proper visual effects and proper use of music and camera angles and all the other shit, but it's almost like bro, this movie just does not work. But then they came out with the animated film, uh, suicide squad hell to pay to, where essentially it was harley deadshot, um boomerang and a bunch of folks, and essentially they were trying to help waller because she has the terminal illness, and she found out that there was this card that's like essentially a get into heaven free card and it was in the possession of a former Dr Faye, so she had the Suicide Squad to retrieve it for her and all that and between that animated film, the 2021, the suicide squad and now the suicide squad izakai animated series I won't say kill the justice league, because people say that story-wise it was okay, but they just didn't like.
Speaker 1:Uh, the fact they had like live services and gameplay balance was like a little too cookie cutter to where they just essentially made Harley Quinn have the same. Well, I kind of liked how Harley Quinn kind of had like this Spider-Man like gameplay thing going on, but what ruined it was that pretty much all the playable characters had like the same like thing going on. It's almost like they didn't make the character gameplay unique from each other. You know like how back in the day, where you would play like, let's say, for instance, sonic heroes, um perfect example to where you have, um, three people on the team and each of them have their strengths and combined like they just made a better team for it. But it just felt a little cookie cutter in that sense. Hell to Pay the Suicide Squad in 2021, and Suicide Squad Isekai. It did what Suicide Squad 2016 was supposed to do but better. And with that being said, let's just open up to the panel. Talos, thank you for joining in. Let's start with you. How are you feeling about Suicide Squad Isekai?
Speaker 2:First off, what's goody, what's goody, everybody. This is your mecha manager, if you will. I have missed y'all, so you know. But regardless, right. So is Suicide Squad Isekai, but regardless, right. So it's a little fast. I ain't even Affront you, I'm not even affront you. My first rating to this Before I watched it Fucking zero out of ten. Why? Because I literally was like why in the fuck are you saying that you're trying to mix DC and anime? Why are you trying to put them into an anime class that's like oh no, we're just gonna teleport them to another world. We're gonna do this.
Speaker 1:They got isekai even then it felt like they did halfway. It didn't really feel like they died, it was more like a gate to another world, I guess.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but after watching it and after sitting there looking at it, I'm politely able to give them a score than a zero. I can give them a seven. Yeah, my reasoning give them a seven. Yeah, my reasoning behind this seven. Hey, it's not half bad, it's relatively not half bad when I look at it. Isekai is not what I typically look for, don't get me wrong, it's not what I typically look for. But at the same time I'm like, okay, cool, this is a half-weight, this is a half-ass Isekai of. You know what, if the villains this time got sent instead of the hero, right, and you know, I can get behind that concept, it's not too hard, I can get behind that concept. So it's not, it's not too hard, I can get behind that concept. So, hey, I'll take that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Like that, that's me, I'll take it you know what, speaking of concepts, this show made me think. You know what we had not only just a main five, but also we have enchantress, uh, rat caller and the joker pulling that swerve. At the end, of course, of course, but it got me thinking, hey yo, what if they had? Like, if they, honestly, if they don't do a season two, whatever, but if they do, I'm very curious about the effect that this world will have on the rest of the Batman Rogue Gallery, because I'm thinking like Scarecrow fucking Mr Freeze and a whole bunch of other, because, think about it With Clayface, by the way.
Speaker 1:With Clayface, I think I ironically like him just a little bit more than the others in this one, little bit more than the others in this one only, because I think it's really funny how this dude is so far up his own asshole that he thinks he's the main character and everybody else is just a supporting cast. I'm like who, though, you think you are motherfucker? Like if I didn't remember you from the batman animated series, I'd be like who are you? Where the fuck you come from? But, um, I did like how, in this world, their abilities get enhanced, uh, especially clay, based to where, oh, he can only morph his own body into like mud or clay or whatever that substance is, but now it expanded to where he can affect the wall he has like manipulation of water, like kind of like a mud bender. Let's just say that he's a much better mud bender. It's almost like um having like a devil fruit that got unlocked in a way yeah, so that's my thing.
Speaker 2:I'm just just like for me. I actually agree with you. I liked Clayface more slowly than he did, Don't get me wrong.
Speaker 1:Yeah, everybody else is okay, but Clayface kind of edged him out.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like I like their transformation. Clayface fit over here more than everybody else. I ain't gonna say more than everybody else, because Harley kind of fit too. Face fit over here more than everybody else Because Harley kind of fit too.
Speaker 1:It's just that his skill set is more versatile in this team.
Speaker 2:Yes, and so that's why I was like I like Clay Blades, clay Blades. I want you to understand. The reason why I also gave it a 7 is because it gave me box Machina vibes. I want you to understand me. The reason why I also gave it a 7 is because, um, it gave me box Machina vibes, but it gave me great value box Machina vibes, yeah.
Speaker 1:And also no, no, no, hold on. Can I also say with Clayface? I was thinking look at, this moves on Michael Jackson looking motherfucker to keep running shit.
Speaker 2:So yeah, that's why I was like, okay, yeah, I'm Like I want to like it, don't get me wrong, right, I watched it in both English dub and sub. So yeah, I was just one of the ones where I'm just like yup, yup, either way it goes, i'ma like the Clayface character more than anything and it's giving me this level of vibe. But that's my take. Kofugatsu, what you got, what you got. Kofi Gossett.
Speaker 3:Okay, first off, I'm going to wind back just a little bit just so I can get it out of the way and be done with it. Onto it, I did like the original Suicide Squad movies. The Suicide Squad killed the Justice League. It had multiple reasons actually. Why it failed is actually why it failed. It wasn't just the gameplay, it was, uh, the storyline actually had failed pretty hard as well too. Most people were already very upset in. The fact that it takes place in the arkham series was already the first thing that people were upset about, and we pretty much kind of start off the game with batman dying.
Speaker 1:Well, um, that's the funny thing. At first people thought, oh, that's how y'all um like honored kevin conroy's memory with this, but then we got a crisis of infant earth, part three, and we got the real final um performance by kevin conroy. Okay, that's a better send off. Yes, yes, yeah.
Speaker 3:So, like you know, the dc had to fix that like heavily, because that was about to be the it and that was just going to be the it part of it and it was like, no, bro, that you can't, you cannot do this, like that is not what we're going to do. But yeah, the um. The storyline actually was very short, um, extra simple, like. If you really think about it, the storyline actually wound up being closely similar to injustice 2, almost just very like the difference in being where, no, they want to be in justice 2 and the kind of like starro with the second suicide squad movie, where it's like, oh, it just got taken over and everything and we've we've seen this happen in multiple times. We've seen this with um, seeing titans versus the justice league, the judas contract and stuff, and we've seen it happen multiple times where it's like, oh, the justice league can be mind controlled and then taken over and somebody's gonna have to put a stop to them, stuff like that and just well, not really justice, but like it's more like
Speaker 3:I don't think they were like mind control, but it was like they just went yeah but um, so the thing about it is that the suicide squad justice league, the suicide squad video game, had most reasons that it failed. Um, as far as the isekai, I agree wholeheartedly with you guys. On to talos, I wouldn't judge it straight at a zero. At the beginning I was like you know what? I'm gonna watch it, just to see what it's like, because when I saw some clips of it I wasn't sure. So it was actually classic mandy. Y'all know that I watch. Oh, I've mentioned him quite a few times.
Speaker 1:Oh, before. I forget, I'm sorry, kokiatsu. Before I forget, I gotta mention this on the record. How, with Suicide Squad Eats Sky, we already talked about this last night, kokiatsu. But essentially what really drawn me to this show was that the guy behind the art. What was his name? Again, naoto Hosoda. His character designs Were based on drafts by Akira Amano, who, if you know me, she's behind Making Katekyo Hitman Reborn. So when I heard that bit, I was like hold on, let me look at this real quick.
Speaker 3:And so, but yeah, heard that bit. I was like hold on, let me look at this real quick. And so, but yeah, it's um, and I wanted to give it a chance. Classic man D. He did like his own little thing onto it and he was like yo, hold on, this is actually starting to be really good. I'm actually pretty surprised on this. And uh and um, then he wound up judging into about what was exactly happening.
Speaker 3:You get a little bit more information about what was exactly going on, not without really trying to spoil it, but just a little bit. And like the beginning test kind of gave you some the beginning videos, kind of was like, ok, this is actually pretty hype, this looks actually like it's going to be pretty cool. Ok, like I might actually kind of like this and so I enjoyed it. I definitely won't say it's a high rating and so I enjoyed it. I definitely won't say it's a high rating.
Speaker 3:No, because let's be honest here a lot of people would be like I've seen a rush comment. I read the comments of other people watching the show and a lot of people was like, yeah, of course, this is just like Joker, he's going to be the one doing this whole thing and it kind of hit me to the point that it felt out of pocket onto it. You couldn't see the fact that it felt out of pocket onto it like there wasn't much. You couldn't see the fact that the whole time. Oh, you know, she, that samurai girl, was just, it was joking the whole time and you're like that you normally like when you see a show, like when you see a twist, like that you can see little hints, and there wasn't really much in hints out there that were kind of like to really give a good foreshadowing.
Speaker 3:So it felt to me almost like it just pulled that shit last minute type of thing I'm kind of cut out on me uh kim, yeah, I can, but no, I was saying it felt like it was kind of pulled out last minute, like normally you would see some type of foreshadowing where it'd be like okay, so you know, harley's fighting this girl. Then, like you know, it was this whole big thing and it was like but it wasn't until like the last couple of episodes where it was like, hold on, something's a little bit different, like it almost felt like a completely different character at this point, like at first, like she was just fighting versus she, literally. Okay, yeah, she's on the bad guy side, but there was no real foreshadowing that this whole time oh, it was Joker the whole time, type of thing, and so it was like really it was a swerve because, like there was just no indication that it was him like we didn't know he was involved in all this.
Speaker 1:But that's the thing like. My main thing was I was thinking like if Joker was part of this, what would his power be? And I was thinking If Joker was part of this, what would his Power be? And I was thinking, maybe, instead of actually using Canned laughing gas to Paralyze enemies, it's more like he could just produce it naturally, to where he could just Produce this Pheromone that just have this Infectious laughter. I was thinking something like on on brand for him, but I didn't.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's a shape shifting yeah, yeah, that was a big throw off onto that. And then, um, as far as like, because there was foreshadowing moments inside the inside this whole show, and that's why I was like that was kind of a I didn't. There was nothing that really kind of felt like a foreshadowed moment, so it really kind of just came out of left water. So if you're just, if you like that type of writing where it's like all of a sudden there's this big twist at the end and you could not see it coming and it's like holy crap, that's insane type of thing. Cool, I'm that type of person that I guess, like even though I never really liked English class too much, it kind of you know, obviously we're doing dc marvel comparisons sometimes, but like the spider verse series, like there's those little moments that happen into into those movies and you're just like, and people go back and re-watch it and they're like yo, did you actually see this? Like you know that miles's sense has changed from prowler to spidey, and it's like I got some people caught it early on, but then, like some people, you put it on videos, put on show it later on.
Speaker 3:There's some people's like, oh chick, I never knew that, I never caught that and it's like those little foreshadowed moments that was like oh, it was there, you just missed it.
Speaker 3:Versus there was no foreshadowing period, it we just that way. It kind of just comes like it just came out of left field, like I don't know. That felt kind of last minute because the only foreshadowing that we would have gotten into that was during the fight scene on the, when they had took down the, when they stormed the castle and took down the castle and it wound up being harley versus her, well, versus joker actually. And um, that moment where you just kind of run away at the end and you just like huh, you had an opportunity to kind of try to really finish the battle but you just decided to just leave all of a sudden and it's like huh, that felt kind of weird but that was about it. Other than that there was. There was nothing else to really foreshadow that. Every other time we've seen this character it felt like no, joker played that role very fucking well, because it was like that.
Speaker 1:I never saw that shit coming to me like holy shit, okay, uh, I guess oh, um, there was one thing I forgot to mention with all this, since we're mentioning all the movies and the game, how did y'all feel about Peacemaker, the TV show?
Speaker 3:I never watched it. I'm gonna be honest with you. Oh, cause I heard good things about it and I hear bad things about it, but I've watched clips, not people commented clips. I'm talking about just clips, period of it, and there was nothing that just ticked me into. Oh, I got to watch this Like there was nothing that was there for me. That was like I guess type of thing, cause, let's be honest, you make this for me, you make the series right after the second suicide squad movie, and the second suicide squad movie ended to where, let's like, we legit thought the nigga died, like, and then all of a sudden you're like, oh no, he survived, how like? Well, here's the thing well, here's the thing.
Speaker 1:um, apparently there's gonna be a second season coming and this one's gonna be following the events of the Superman movie that's going to be coming out next year. So I'm thinking, do I want to do a review on Peacemaker on its own? Because really, peacemaker season one, it's just essentially he gets forced to join this blackout squad that's on a mission to eliminate this butterfly like creatures who's like trying to take over human bodies. You know pretty much Starro all over again. So it's like the Suicide Squad movie all over again, but it's like butterfly creatures instead of starfish creatures.
Speaker 3:Now I will say I don't really follow Peacemaker like that. Are fish creatures? Now I will say I don't really follow peacemaker like that. But in some um comics that I have read, john cena is fantastic. As far as in peacemaker, as far as like the comedic aspect, because peacemaker is just like an overall. He is a goofball like on some real shit, like he's not saying whatsoever, but that's the thing but that's the thing like, but that's just the thing Like.
Speaker 1:I think, honestly, john Cena as Peacemaker is like on the same level as RDJ, as Iron man, ryan Reynolds as Deadpool I can't Well.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, no, Hold on I can't fully say that because of the writers. That's my biggest thing. No, no, no.
Speaker 1:No, I just feel like not that, not writing. I'm talking about the, the kind of roles where yes, you were made for it.
Speaker 3:I want, yeah, you made for it. That's what I'm saying like channing tanning with gambit. Yeah, all right, man, I still can't get past that bro, I can't do you speak english, do you? But for reals, though, it's um, but the only reason.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would say that, as far as it's, I'm about to make a name for myself.
Speaker 3:It's breaking the. I promise you I can't go on Instagram. Tiktok, youtube or nothing without seeing somebody doing all of his lines. He has the fewest lines in the movie and still has like the biggest impact of the whole damn movie, right?
Speaker 1:now, what did I say back during the Cat Williams episodes, where your role in this movie need to be as big as the movie itself?
Speaker 3:yes, because literally Cat Williams was not much in that third Friday movie, but we all remember also in First Sunday.
Speaker 1:Because, if you don't remember anything from First Sunday. You'll remember him as the choir director. Yeah, you remember the choir director.
Speaker 3:You absolutely remember him, but yeah, no. So yeah, like Channing Tatum sold that role, but that's one of the things for me for John Cena, as far as, like he hit this, the comedic effect, the effect, but I think that's that really worked out well for him. And there's one of those ones I would say in the writing aspect I would have to give Isakai Peacemaker is more accurate. It's just a little bit more accurate. He's not as funny, like. That's the one thing that did make me frustrated, because Peacemaker is a goofball. He cracks fucking jokes all the damn time and people get aggravated to shit about it. Even Waller Waller absolutely has wanted to blow his head off so many times just from shit that he said. But she's like you get the job done and you do well. That's the only reason you're still alive. It's like I can rely on you to get the job done.
Speaker 1:But oh my god, yeah, or blood or that was like. So what was his power? Just to throw a polka dot to people?
Speaker 3:that's power, yeah okay, no, no, no, no, yeah, yeah, the blood support has said it. And then peacemaker just wound up like cracking more jokes onto it. Um, but yeah, but like that's the thing about it in the isekai uh, peacemaker does not do that. The jokes that we get is like in the bar, he's has no fucking pants on. During his transformation sequence we saw his ass yet again transformation sequence. But the thing about it is think about his fighting style, like literally when clayface was talking about oh, you know, you gotta fight with style, gotta fight with pizzazz. You see peacemaker in the background chucking these, um, undead enemies, just flipping them around like flip, flip, kick, kick, destroy, destroy, destroy and just like the most fucking epic way possible information.
Speaker 3:Let me talk about how with harley uh, hers look exactly like something straight out sailor moon look, sailor moon plus um, allison one, allison wonderland, like literally you could see that moment with especially with the veil like the black veil was the perfect touch to me on that the little cat, the little hat with the black veil and I was like that fully sold this entire outfit for me. Then the magical hyena dogs that just popped out of nowhere. That was hilarious and then they turned into fucking energy discs Like dude. Her shit was like bad as fuck. I was like wait a second now.
Speaker 1:I'm like hold on. Where'd you learn the Kierza from?
Speaker 3:And she had doubled Like it was nothing and she can release them or keep them attached to her chain so she can control how they go. Like she just hit kratos versus krillin like wait a second, what? Um? It was dope. It was dope, but no. Yeah, like, but yeah. So, peacemaker, I just wish he had more um comedic aspects, but that I love that. Peacemaker was a strategist throughout this, like you can see him formulating plans like this is the best plan, this is the option. We're going to do this. We're going to do onto that the um. Only other moment that I would say is the funniest moment with peacemaker when he was like I'm going to disguise myself as an elf. The dude took off his helmet, ripped his shirt, grabbed some fucking uh fluff shit from the trees and just matched the most dramatic ass hair flip possible and it was like, holy shit, that's what your face looks like. Like.
Speaker 1:Wait a second and that's the funny part too where in the movie the suicide squad the 2021 version we had no problem seeing his face and all that shit, but in this one it was almost like my identity is everything like you cannot see my face. It will disrupt my noble mission.
Speaker 3:I'm like bro like and then he pops out and on some pops out on some inosuke type nonsense, like dude, why is your face so chiseled like? Wait a second? He said. Why are you so pretty? What is going on right now?
Speaker 3:it's like that picard effect that part, but it's like it's just oh no, it was just so hilarious but um, but to see those moments into stuff where he's like being serious but it's funny type of thing, it was like though that that's what really kind of gave a good soul for me onto this peacemaker. He's a strategist. He's also still funny without being well, even without trying to be. But the thing about it is is that I would like more of Peacemaker being comedy, like being more like cracking jokes. I would love to have seen that more into it, but otherwise I would have to say this so far at least to me, was the best Peacemaker.
Speaker 3:There's nothing against John Cena. John Cena sells fantastically and that's why I say that's more of a writing aspect, because they gave him all the comedy but they didn't give him the strategy that he has. Peacemaker can lead squads, he can lead teams and from my understanding in the show, he's terrible at leaving at leading the teams and it's like no, peacemaker is actually good at doing that. He's just off the wall, crazy about it. But he is actually a good strategist and you don't see that.
Speaker 1:It's like a weird mix of Captain America and Deadpool in a way. Yeah, like yeah, like yeah, he'd be a good leader, but he did so unhinged, exactly almost like almost like home wonder without Howard about.
Speaker 3:I Would say the biggest thing into a. Homelander is very more self-centered versus Peacemaker is more for the common good, but Peacemaker doesn't care. He will kill man, woman, child, pet. He doesn't give A fuck who if it means Fulfilling the mission. That's just Kind of how he is into that.
Speaker 1:So I would say because Homelander is just more self-centered you got a point because at least with Peacemaker he's doing for something outside of himself. Meanwhile, homeland is doing all for him.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I do also like the show and the fact that we have a Harley-led show that we still get a good focus on everybody else. Deadshot to me was hilarious as shit, but I would like some of deadshot's comedy moments to have been given to peacemaker, because that would have fit a little bit better. Deadshot can crack jokes, but that's just not too much of how deadshot usually is. But I mean, it's a branch out for different characters. So it's like this is a different variation. So I'm like okay, like this is what I say. I would like it don't have to be this way, but it's okay. Um, I do one of the things like my wife had mentioned into it. I was talking to my wife about it too and it's like so we just have this role now, after the suicide squad movies, we're just keeping dead shot black period. It's like we had will smith, we had idris elba and this one. We just we're keeping Deadshot Black at this point Because there was people that in the first Suicide Squad movie they were so angry.
Speaker 1:They mentioned that in the game, where I'm like oh, so like. I thought Deadshot was the white guy. Oh, you got a problem with that.
Speaker 3:I'm like so many people complained about it. They were so angry and upset and in their butts about that and it was just like oh my god, you're making me black. Now Everybody has to be black. Now you got to switch up everything. Dc was just like we're just keeping it this way. It's actually pretty cool. I mean, hey, what's up?
Speaker 1:I don't see nothing bad with it. How do you feel about how Harley and Deadshot in the animated film add this romantic relationship and how in the 2016 version it was kind of leading to it but it didn't really happen?
Speaker 3:that's not uncommon for the comics so literally, when once so hardly, when she finds out like, when she finally gets that break away from Joker, when she's like I'm tired of him abusing me, doing all this nonsense, treating me bad, throwing me in danger and stuff.
Speaker 1:You know what this reminds me of? How, with Harley, my main thing with her is outside of. I thought she was pretty cool, especially how the way they were talking to Cecil about what kind of person Princess Fionaiona was and I kind of crashed a little bit because I couldn't help but think of shrek at the time, but uh, anyways, um, kind of asking what kind of person princess fiona was, and ceasar was like oh, she's like the most kind-hearted woman I ever met. And then carly was like she sounds like a self-loathing loser and I'm like oh, but uh, okay, that part I found funny.
Speaker 1:But the one thing that I thought was kind of weird but it's like of course joker has to be in the fold somehow is that it just seems like, uh, aside from her having like a boost in her uh strength with the bat and whatnot, uh, I guess she had like this.
Speaker 3:I'm gonna say it's a ability, but it's just kind of like a running gag to where she would go to bed and then she'd just be having dreams of joker and somehow, um, these dreams of him is giving her insight on what to do next so that's one thing I will say I liked about the joker character because it so ever since that whole big reveal of joker being three, you know you have the comedian, you have the mobster and you have the gangster, um, and so it's like having that moment is understanding that, yeah, joker is still a strategist he's able to plan stuff out.
Speaker 1:A mobster and a gangster like I'm curious about that.
Speaker 3:Sorry, it's like a crime boss. One was like a boss. We have one that's the comedian. We have one that's actually the boss person. He's actually head corporation. This dude is actually pretty serious on stuff. He knows how to plan stuff out Excellent strategist. Then you have Joker. That's just the wild person that's just out murdering people, just doing what fuck ever type thing. Um, so like that's. That's like the three part of him. You find out it's like three different people apparently, and joker's been having them all intertwined and all like having their own time with harley as well too. Per se, and that's even worst part about it you're thinking with the same person all the time, and each time they've actually been, they've been switching out personas and you're thinking they're just like oh yeah, he's part of his mentality. I mean he's crazy, he's insane and it's like no, you actually are sleeping with three different people and you just don't know it.
Speaker 1:It's pretty messed up I'm like you're getting gas lit by three different people. I'm like hey man, it's my turn. Next different people. I'm like hey man, it's my turn, I'm like hey man your turn was last.
Speaker 3:And I think the worst part about it, too, is the fact that Harley has been pregnant in multiple iterations and with this being its own canonical thing. Which Joker is the dad Like? That song is pretty messed up. Like, wait a second. And at that moment you'd be like, yeah, I know who my, I know my puddings, the is the is the father of my baby. No, you don't actually know he's.
Speaker 1:He's kept that secret from you too I'm just waiting for the harley quinn show to do a period of the morris pokest show to where she's trying to find out who the baby daddy is that part too.
Speaker 3:I could not like. That would be. That would be hilarious. People would watch that one, and even when they thought that would be a plot twist to put on to that. So DC, y'all listening to this right now do that, but no.
Speaker 3:So I like how we get a chance to branch out to the other ones, but as far as like how you mentioned the question that you had mentioned earlier is that whenever Harley does finally break away from Joker, she has had relationships with other people. She's had relationships with Deadshot. She's had relationships with Nightwing, which was hilarious and also good lord woman. You are much older than him. You fought him when he was a child Hell woman, anyway. So yeah, you are much older than him. You fought him when he was a child Hell woman, anyway.
Speaker 3:Um, so yeah, she's had relations with Nightwing. You know we all know the relations she's had with Poison Ivy on multiple iterations, um, as well too. So it's not uncommon for her to have branched out and have relations with someone else once she finally gets over Joker. So it's not, it's not out there. Someone else once she finally gets over Joker, so it's not out there. I know some people are like that just seems so kind of weird. No, there was a comic that happened, that actually did happen, so it's like it's whatever. I mean, it's one of those things. Even if you don't want to make a comic lore accurate, she's finally breaking away from Joker. What the fuck is wrong with that?
Speaker 1:You want her. No, you must stay in this deranged, abusive relationship. Really. Is that really how we doing stuff? Like damn, all this shit, like see, ladies, gentlemen, this is supposed to be a simple review, right, like we're just gonna talk about the animated film, I mean the series, right. But then I thought, hold on, we didn't talk about the two live action films, yet we didn't talk about peacemaker, yet we didn't talk about the two live accident films, yet we didn't talk about peacemaker, yet we didn't talk about the animated film, yet we didn't talk about harley quinn, yet we didn't talk about a whole bunch of shit that's just popping up, and now I'm thinking about birds of prey, to where.
Speaker 1:That was her whole fucking art to break away from joker look.
Speaker 3:So that birds of prey was supposed to focus on multiple people, that show had its falling because there's a show and a movie as well. Keep in mind, they're both different, very different. Um, in the fact that it's like, no, sorry, there's actually two shows most people don't remember there was an animated show, birds for prey as well too, but um, and that one was actually pretty good, it was. It was an animated version. That was a long time ago, but DC hid that away for whatever reason. They never continued it and it just it just died away. But, um, because I found that out, because my brother had had bought the DVD, he found the DVD set at Walmart one time. You know, just like, hey, it's apparently a series, birds of Prey. And I'm like, excuse me, listen, they made an animated show that's on on the second and it was actually really good.
Speaker 3:But that doesn't focus on only it focused on multiple people. You know we get to see more of Poison Ivy, of Batgirl, we get to see the women of DC. It was their time to shine and they only really focused on Harley, and that's where I kind of fell on that. It's like, yes, harley's great, she's your bread and butter. But keep in mind, as far as the way everyone still kept saying about the X-Men series and you have Wolverine. If you have Wolverine being your only lead, okay, fine, people are going to show up because they're going to want to watch Wolverine.
Speaker 1:But at the same time, time, there's still other people there. People may show up, but what's going to keep people there? You know, you got your headline, let's keep them there. You know what? That's funny because in recent times in the comics, uh, magneto made a uh statement saying that oh, I know who your pillars are, charles. Uh, it's these two. And they're saying, like essentially going forward, that Cyclops and Rogue is going to be like the lead characters of the X-Men. It's like it's not going to be about Xavier or anybody else, like Wolverine's probably going to be like a recurring breakout character, but the focus is going to be shifted towards Cyclops and Rogue at this point.
Speaker 3:I wouldn't be upset about that. I think it'd be okay to kind of get some branch out. Let's get some variety, let's see some other characters.
Speaker 1:Cyclops is getting a redemption art of sorts in X-Men 97. But if you've read the comics, I'm like I don't know if that's going to be enough.
Speaker 3:As a'm like I don't know if that's going to be enough, as a character I don't know if that's going to be enough, true, true, so, yeah, so we have harley. Okay, there we go, I know. So we get a chance to branch out for these different characters, we get a chance to see how everyone is. Um, we get the opportunity of being able to see more of. I feel bad for Nanaue. I'm trying to be nice but realistically, I feel bad for Nanaue Because really, let's put it in this aspect there's one piece of writing that if this piece of writing happened, I would have gave this show an absolute at least 8.5 out of 10. 8.5.
Speaker 3:And as for this, everybody had their Isekai transformation when they got a piece of the armor right, but Nanaue still had the magical sword in his belly. Why did he not have his own specialized transformation from the sword? So when the princess called the sword she's like sword returned to me and the Naue's eyes glowed. This is what popped up in my mind for the split second before it ripped out his stomach and I was like bro, really, I was like, oh, nanaue is going to get a second transformation. Do you know why? This would have been great.
Speaker 3:He just came out of a fight where he himself said he was upset because he lost, because he said he felt that he was worthless to the group. He literally told Pe, told peacemaker, why would you want me in the group? Why do you need me? And I'm weak and I can't win my fights. This would have been a chance for nanae to shine. I have strength. I am the sword. Hell. Clayface turned himself into Clayface, was dying in the water, turning into mush, because he has to be mud to keep himself together, not sand. He can't be too dry and he can't be too wet. He says this he is dying in the water.
Speaker 1:And he's like I can't.
Speaker 3:He's like I gotta. He's like I gotta. He said this I can't just just her girl's needing me, I can't just. He had a whole sanji moment. I can't be weakened. When adams was asking for my help and stuff and turns himself into a sword and we have an epic fight sequence, he made himself useful in his dying moments. Nanaway got his behind handed to him over and over and over by croc. Croc handed how you call king shark, but croc is beating your behind left and right. Croc literally called him out and said you're just a mindless beast he said oh, you did the deep fucking knockoff.
Speaker 3:I went no, no, no, no yeah and it's like bro, for real, it's like it made you feel like bro, come on, the Naue had an opportunity If he had a second transformation, if that sword had empowered him, even if he didn't turn into a sword but he became more powerful or something like that had a specialized transformation, his teeth got bigger and sharper or something like that, and he just flew towards the Demon King king, which also is pretty funny. You know, she's the demon king and clearly, like I don't know, but he flies towards and he's like choose her head to pieces or something like that, or he just consumes her body and something. Whatever it would have been, it would have been an excellent. Nanaway got his redemption. It was constantly hinted at that. The sword is trapped in his belly. The sword is trapped there. We, we can't get it out right now, we can't do anything. All right, cool.
Speaker 3:And this is like come to me my sword, and I'm like this is nanaway, he's finally getting his chance. His eyes are glowing and then his stomach glows and then it rips out his stomach and then you just like Bro, but you see my point right. You see how good that would have been to have had Nanaue had his moment. Man had a shiny moment after being beaten down so low. Because that's what happens to main characters. I see it happens in anime all the time. You have that main. Because that's what happens to main characters. I see it. It happens in anime all the time. You have that main character that's like losing. They're at the very end. It's like this is the end. I don't think I'm going to win this. You know they get saved and they're like dang, I need a chance, I need a second moment to become stronger. And then they get it.
Speaker 3:And he didn't, bro. He lost it. I was like this is not fair. Yeah, so I mean, that's just my biggest thing to that. But to me it just felt like one of the biggest failed opportunities to just beat this character down but then keep him down and I'm like that's not fair. That's not fair. He got treated as the damsel in distress. He was taken hostage. He was taken and was about to be executed. They were going to get that sword out of him one way or another. They had magic nullifiers. They showed that in the damn anime, but they only showed that at the beginning. They showed that in the first couple episodes that they had magic nullifiers.
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, it's almost like, since peacemaker in this one is being more serious, it's almost like, well, somebody gotta be the comedic relief.
Speaker 3:You, you spent all the dough to come from harley honestly yeah, but no, so like that's, that's the thing for me on today. It's like so, yeah, I had those moments. I'm like clay face. Clay face was hilarious. But I also like clay face because, let's be honest, he is an actor, he knows his stuff. He's like I have done roles left and right. I can play any role that I want to be. I can be the monster, I can be the main character, I can be the beast, whoever I want to be. Um, his transformation sequence was so hilarious. That's how I told my wife about the show. I was like I want you to watch it. This is crazy. This only happens at the very last episode, but still, I showed her the transformation sequences, but specifically Clayface. My dude went straight on.
Speaker 3:Michael Jackson started tap dancing was moonwalking. He pulled forth a whole mud party and everything with like ladies and other fellas just out here doing the whole dance with him. He did two step, bro. I was like, oh snap, I started getting up dancing with him. I was like, yeah, let's do this. Let's what's up about? Do the cha-cha slide? Nigga, let's do this.
Speaker 1:And then, um, I was not ready for gonna. Be so on the nose about it, I mean with the uh the outfit, I was like okay, a little coincidental, but then when they did the transformation, okay, so y'all did perfect right, this was. This was the solidified moment ow, and then yeah, y'all definitely did this on purpose he grabbed his crotch and hit.
Speaker 3:I was like he did not hit that michael jackson yes, he did. If you're going to imitate anybody the King of Pop, I understand, but for reals though it was hilarious. But Clayface had his moments, man. He had his moments to shine and I will say everybody got their transformation. And the transformations felt amazing. When they're fighting the lower enemies it felt like a. When they're fighting the lower enemies feel like a dynasty warriors type thing. And then, as soon as they got to the big bad, she clapped every one of them and was like no, y'all all got pieces of the armor. The armor don't mean jack shit to me. The sword is the only one that I was scared of. And again, this would have been the now ways opportunity, but no, so I can't even say seven. I'm gonna say 6.5. It's not a six, it's not a six. And then my final gripe into this before I go ahead and turn this back, because I I definitely hear what tylos has to say on some of the stuff I've mentioned as well too.
Speaker 3:Um, I hated the opening and the outro. The music fine, I like the songs. This is the first time I would probably ever say that I actually hated an intro and outro Because the intro and outro felt lazy. It felt a little lazy, I'm going to be honest on that. It felt so lazy to me. I was happy that the last two episodes Featured no intro whatsoever. I was so fucking happy. There was nothing. I didn't have to worry about skipping a damn thing, thank you. So I did that. But everyone I read mixed reviews. I read multiple comments On multiple episodes, multiple anime websites and JB. I told you this one last night too. But I'm just saying Amanda Waller, her dance in the outro got mixed reviews. Some people was like, hey, that's what's up. Yeah, we liked it, which was not me, I was on the other team of. This is disturbing as hell.
Speaker 1:I'm thinking like bro, I'm sorry, but I just. Amanda Waller is one of those characters that should never dance. I'm sorry, I just can't imagine Amanda Waller and dancing going together. He's too stoic for that for me, honestly.
Speaker 3:So the thing is is that there's a new comic out now that came out, I think, about a month or two ago. Talish might correct me on this one but we finally get an understanding. We actually got a back story for Amanda Waller Of why it is that she is the way she is, and it's understanding that apparently for her, she was married, her husband was killed and the justice system did absolutely nothing about it. So she decided to study law, study the justice system, study political aspects, and she rolls her way up I don't remember exactly.
Speaker 3:I think I know he was murdered, but I don't remember exactly who.
Speaker 1:I know he was murdered, but I don't remember exactly who did it and exactly how it happened, but it just pretty much it was it started to remind me of I'm sorry, it was starting to remind me of a recent story about, you know, with the lady and Disney and restaurant and the allergy Bad story. Yeah, it does actually, I think for me it's also and Disney and restaurant and that story yeah, it does, actually, I think.
Speaker 3:For me it's also like I just read the article about the Breonna Taylor situation and that's a whole nother story in itself it just felt like, it felt like one of those, the boys, I won't say villain.
Speaker 1:Arc to where just imagine like, yeah, you, your significant other or family gets killed, the justice system failed you. And now you pretty much go on this arc to where, uh, I'm not gonna uh fail them, like, uh, the system failed me, or something like that kind of, kind of.
Speaker 3:And that's one of the things where she sighs with lex luther sometimes. But it's also against him, because lex luther, he has his moments where he's like I'm doing this for humanity, and when he has those moments she sighs with him. When he's like starts becoming more self-centered, he's like no, that's what she's doing but the thing about it is is that amanda wall is also pretty self-centered as well too, and I think about it.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry like I'm sorry for um, but crazy enough, this reminds me of um when we were talking about scott pillman takes off, where, uh, julie was more attracted to gideon when he was evil, uh, but when he was trying to do good, as like, I'm turned off. It's like the opposite of that. Is that yeah?
Speaker 3:yeah, I saw it on that one, but yeah, but yes, yeah, the thing about it is that I have no problem. I've seen anime intro and outros where they make the villain and the heroes dance. Jujutsu Kaisen has done that, literally in their outro and intro. They sometimes have the heroes and the villains dancing. Sometimes it's funny, sometimes it's pretty cool. I don't know what it was. It was just whether it may have been the animation or the art style. It may be, I'm not entirely sure, but it looked disturbing watching her dance and it was just like. I promise you. I watched it one time and I skipped every single. I couldn't skip fast enough. I skipped so far ahead. I accidentally skipped halfway into an episode and had to rewind back.
Speaker 1:No, I'm trying to mentally capture the mortification on your face. When you saw that, I was like oh my god.
Speaker 3:I was like why does this look bad? What is happening right now? I hated it. I absolutely hated it and there's a bunch of people that side along with me because those are the exact words that they had used because I couldn't describe how I was feeling. I was like I just don't like it.
Speaker 1:And someone had put in the comments it's disturbing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, they said, why is Amanda Waller dancing disturbing? I'm like that's the word. Thank you, I could not piece it together. I don't know. I hate it, so I'm sorry. The intro, outro, the music was fine. It felt very short. It felt like it did feel as if the lyrics was about to drop. It felt like we was about to hit that beat drop and then we didn't get it and then it was the end of the intro and I'm like, so I can't necessarily say I like the music, because it doesn't feel like. I listened to the music, you know I didn't feel like I heard it, but so I mean, that's just my thing on to that. But no, I, I skipped intro, natural, every time I couldn't. I. Every intro and outro to me gets one watch in every anime series in every season. So I will season two, I will watch again.
Speaker 1:If it's a banger, I'm.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if it's a banger, I'm going to sit and watch it through and through left and right. You know I'm going to do that. But like, nah, this one, nah, bro, no, I'm getting shivers. Okay, I'm done. I'm done. Talos, I'm done.
Speaker 2:What you got, man, I'm done uh, uh, look here, don't tag me in on that. Don't do that. Don't tag me in on that. You, you, you, ooh, no, no, cause I can't come behind it. What do you say to that? Literally and I say this wholeheartedly, folks, this is not bad, but what do you say to that? Because a lot of this stuff is relatively true, right, there's nothing else to add on. Okay, so how do I flip this? This is the reason why I got seven. Once again. Need to reiterate, let me point back to everything that Coach got to. Just Once again need to reiterate. Let me point back to everything that Kogak's just said those.
Speaker 2:So and I say this wholeheartedly now, as I frame this for DCs, if you want to try Isekai, right, please don't look at Vox Machina and be like, yeah, we're gonna do this, but we're gonna water it down and make it great value, like that's why I felt like all of this was literally great value. Vox Machina, this is literally what that was. This is all it is. It's like, once again, you have great characters in here, don't get me wrong. You have some good characters, you have some good character designs, but for some of it, it's trash. Yes, yes, to answer you. Yes, amanda Waller went through the Batman treatment. It's in her entire comic run right now, especially the newest one that's out. It's in her entire comic run. It's the reason why she's whooping Batman's ass at the current moment. She's winning like cause she outplayed him.
Speaker 1:She's nothing but Batman it's like that's a funny thing to wear, even though I'm not trying to compare them like say that they're similar or whatnot. It's kind of how why be trying to make thunderbolts? Um be trying to hype up thunderbolts where it's supposed to like compete with Suicide Squad, especially the way Val is built and that's where, essentially, val is going to be there. Amanda Waller and I'm like, okay, we'll see where it goes. But right now I'm getting like mixed feelings about Thunderbolts, where it is like I feel like y'all going to try too hard to be like Suicide Squad instead of being your own thing. Same thing to why I bring up this point to where, with Suicide Squad, isekai, okay, you got like a American cartoon that's pretty much inspired by anime and you're gonna have it on HBO Max.
Speaker 1:And not too long ago, disney made it clear that they're trying to get into the anime business by trying to acquire at least thousand year blood war on the anime and um sandland and some others like I think they're doing it for um kogeos too. And I'm sitting here thinking like I think this goes beyond, uh, having this shows where like, okay, what if they actually, like quote unquote died and went to another world, which actually didn't happen, uh, but it's almost like they're kind of filling a quota to where they're competing as far as, like, okay, disney plus and hbo max need to have more anime on their uh streaming sites because, oh, netflix is doing it, uh, prime video is doing it. You know, we need to step our game up and have like some original anime shows on our shit to where I'm like, are you really doing it because you got a story to tell or are you only doing it because, oh well, you know anime is popping off, so we might as well ride the wave.
Speaker 2:I don't know.
Speaker 1:I will say one thing as well. Go ahead.
Speaker 3:I will say one thing that the trope of Isekai now being that just traveling to another world is becoming a more common trope now it's not just the whole dying and going to another world thing. So, like truck coon is going out of business, y'all they really trying to do that. But uh, nah, bruh, nah, I'm still coming back in business, just watch out. Um, but for real, though, is the fact that, like, there's even one anime I can't I'm been trying, I was trying to look up the title, for but I can't remember it but there's is one anime. I'm gonna mention two of them one, my uncle, uh, went to another world and came back, and so, like that one, um, the uncle, he didn't die, he went into a coma and then he came back, so he didn't die and go to another world. So that was a little bit different into that too. And then there's one anime where there's a whole academy specifically for kids who, when they became about teenagers, they went to another world and they didn't die or nothing like that.
Speaker 1:They literally just went to sleep Anika of Rogue Hero.
Speaker 3:Okay, yeah, that's what it was. Yeah, so it was pretty good. But yeah, they went to sleep and just go to another, where they just get a calling to go to another world and when they come back they all have magical powers. So they have to be separated from names, from their main society, because they have magical powers in their real world when they're not supposed to, type of thing. But it's like so, yeah, the whole like changing of isekai to being, oh, just a portal to another world, or you just get the calling to go, type of thing and then come back, is become a more recent trope. That is happening and it's becoming more popular now because I don't know why.
Speaker 3:I'm going to assume because maybe people are upset about the whole dying aspect of it and I don't understand why. I mean, I'm like, look, I mean people die, it happens. Maybe it's the wars that's going out, maybe it's like let's just take away the dying part of it and just make it to where they can just teleport there or something, or they just mentally go there and then come back that one anime Gate where it's like this 30 something dude pretty much introducing tanks and what not earth, like technology, to this other world where they were like in medieval times, I guess, yeah, I just imagine all those planes and tanks, yeah, so yeah, with Isekai.
Speaker 1:think about it. Isekai doesn't really mean like, oh, you died and went to another world. Really, the literal definition of I literal definition is escapism, like you're just pretty much like that's like saying, if you're in class and you feel like me, you're like you're kind of hearing what the teacher is saying, all those shit, but at the same time you're also in your own world, daydreaming about whatever is like something more exciting than the bullshit that you're doing. And that's pretty much it. It's like just a form of escapism, kind of like how you get so engrossed in these video games that we play. You kind of feel like, oh well, what if life was, uh, kind of like a video game? What if life was more like this game? You know that sort of thing to where you just look for something, to where something better than the mundane that we have you know, yeah, but my bad Talos, no, I just really wanted to hear your points into it because I wish you could tell
Speaker 3:us how you feel about Nanaue Like do you feel? Like Nanaue, should have had a chance.
Speaker 1:No, no, hold on, koki. I say to be fair. We talked about this. How, like sometimes when you go on your tangents like you kind of take the wind out of everybody else.
Speaker 2:No, I mean it's not like. Like I said once again, it's not like it was in a bad way or nothing like that, Not in a bad way, but just you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's just like I said. It's like, hey, yo, it's just like, nah, you literally said everything that I was thinking Like hey, talos ain't got nothing that he can say behind that that he can be like alright, yeah, this is a little bit different. No, no, no, no, because this is what happened, like. This is legitimately why I gave it a seven in the first place.
Speaker 2:This is why I gave it a seven in the first place. Because, yes, it a seven in the first place, because, yes, there was stuff. There's a lot of stuff in here that I'm like as far as a person who literally loves Isekai, because A lot of people can sit there and say, oh man, isekai is just this, and this and that and that.
Speaker 2:No, I love a good Isekai. It really depends on the show. It's fantasy. It's basically how Final Fantasy Basically is, except their characters are already there. Really depends on the show. It's fantasy. It's basically how Final Fantasy basically is, except their characters are already there. So you know, for me it's simply just yeah, I'm happy about this shit Like this shit here is relatively fine, this is fine and dandy.
Speaker 1:See, that's why I was telling Kookie Guys last night about the Imminence in Shadows, where it's another Isek, telling KougiGuts last night about the Imminence in Shadow to where it's another isekai anime. But at least they did it in a way that was refreshing to where. Okay, it's built different so I can watch this. It's still delicious garbage, but it's watchable, it's enjoyable. It doesn't feel like you're just copying a formula that's already worked. It doesn't feel uninspired. That's what I'm saying, that's all.
Speaker 1:If you're going to do anything, just at least make it look like you're actually about something. You know how nowadays I will listen to music, right, I'll be thinking, oh damn, I like this song. Then I'll look up the lyrics and I'll be thinking like oh damn, I like this song. And then I'll, um, look up the lyrics, just uh, kind of uh, learn the lyrics. And I'm like you know what, I don't know why I'm thinking like I heard something completely different, because I, when I first heard the song, I thought they were like really talking about some shit. But then again it just seemed like more of that mumble rapping a little bit to where it sounds like they're talking about something different.
Speaker 1:But when you look up the actual lyrics you're just like okay, well, it's not all that, like I don't know, just sound like they're just, uh, saying some shit like there's nothing really behind it. So that's why I have a more appreciation for older music, because when you go back to the older music you can clearly tell that they're actually talking about shit Like it goes beyond the usual shit of gang violence, sex, money, drugs and all that. It's like yo, these artists was actually talking about shit back when you can actually call them artists. Yeah, like if you're going to do do anything whether it's an anime, a movie, kind of like where we talk about All these Suicide Squad iterations and what not if you're gonna do anything, like actually be about something. That's all I got.
Speaker 2:You're not lying, that's definitely. That's definitely one of those things.
Speaker 1:It's just like hey, yo if know, if you're gonna do it, do it like, but at least know what the fuck to do like, like I was saying in the beginning, to where I'm like, uh, I can respect the fact that you had a story that you wanted to tell, not because, oh, I'm just here to make money. I'm like I guess, I mean, I kind of get it, but at the same time it's come up. So soul is that. I can't really respect it too much, like I'm not gonna judge you too harshly, but I can't respect it that much where I don't feel the soul behind it.
Speaker 1:To where I'm like I can actually tell that you actually put in the words, where it just kind of feel like yeah, this feels real, this feels tangible. It feels like you're not just putting something out there for us to like consume my junk food. This is like Sunday dinner for me. Yeah, you put your whole foot in this food. I can feel that you put your whole foot in this. Um, food, that's I. I can feel that I'm thinking of that.
Speaker 1:That one proud family episode where all sugar my poor. But now you know what I'm good like. Like um tylo said coach got supreme. I said all I have to say about this um show.
Speaker 1:I would also say a solid seven because I didn't hate it, but like if they brought out like a season two it might bump it up to like it really depends on like if they add new characters like scarecrow or bane or, uh, the court of owls, somebody you know like someone we know, like fuck, bring in red Hood and the Outlaws or some shit. And I'm like I just kind of want to see more people from the Batman mythos on fuck shit up in this world.
Speaker 3:You know and bring some Flash villains in there. Man Like, bring Killer Frost, make her, make the Everwinter Ooh, make that a thing. The Everwinter is some shit they did.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's what I said with Mr Freeze. He could probably make that happen.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So I mean, like you know, you have options Like Batman's road gallery. Go to Flash's road gallery A little bit. He's got a couple. Mirror Master would be a pain With magical powers, I guess. The only other thing I would like to say is into is the fact that, like if I was also frustrated that we didn't get no like magical powers for dead shot per se his was only based on his armor, but otherwise it's like your magic powers that you already have perfect aim anyway, so we don't need to give you no more.
Speaker 1:It'd be too dangerous I feel like with like it's kind of like with the fantasy trolls, to where some folks are better off as magic casters than others. They don't need to rely on magic too much. It's more like just give them an enchanted weapon, give them an enchanted crossbow or some shit like that. One wears two lightning bolts out of it.
Speaker 3:I don't know. I think the best transformation in power um adjuster was harley, was harley's, to be honest, because like dead shot he had like once he got the magical armor, then he got his um, his shots okay cool. He got like to be, he got a chance to be, like more creative in his shots a little bit. That's what's up, but we didn't get a chance to really see what they were talking about.
Speaker 1:I was always thinking about Reborn again to where you know how, sometimes with Reborn and some other characters, where they'll have gun weapons, but the way they well, especially Reborn, specifically well, reborn and Goku Darrow to where they shoot these bullets and they have different effects depending on the flame, and you know, yeah, yeah, kind of like that yeah, like it would be nice to speak, to be able to use this like see deadshot kind of like maximize out like his uh, you know experiment a little bit more in his shots, because one thing about deadshot too, is the fact that like he has perfect aim to be able to ricochet as well too.
Speaker 3:Not one bullet.
Speaker 1:He did not one ricochet bullet in in this whole series and I'm like I was thinking about um, like, funny enough, we're getting ready for a mutual lucha review and I'm trying to think of wait, wait a minute, what was that main kid's name? I'm trying to think like oh, ricochet that was his name that's right
Speaker 3:anyway, sorry, but no. So like yeah, it's not one bullet ricocheted in this whole show. Like, come on, that shot's good at trick shots too, man, that's his thing. But I'm like it's okay. I guess you know it would've been nice to be able to see him do some magical trick shot. Everything was just one shot aim. Like come on, man, what the fuck was Peacemaker's magical powers flight? That was it. Like I'm just confused. He had this whole costume transformation sequence and all he did was fly and it looked like during his transformation that he had like magical bullet aim, but we never saw it and I'm like okay it's like outside of flight.
Speaker 1:It's like he does um the same thing I do, but better. I can fly over them and hit them in different angles that you can never hit.
Speaker 3:I mean, he was already able to hit them in different angles, but I do see what you mean. What is his Clayface? Okay, he just now can create magical circles and just shoot clay and so okay, that's cool. But then you know, he hit the ground, hit that doggone, made lava, and I'm like wait a second. He, he hit the ground, hit that doggone, made lava, and I'm like wait a second. He's like this is what it means to be in the Isekai and I'm like wait a second. Clayface, what did you do? Clayface had some, but otherwise, like Harley, what she had? Super bat strength. Her power Only awakened whenever she was.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like she got enhanced strength with the, with the bat like her power only awakened whenever she was saying to hit a home run, yeah, like she got enhanced strength with the bat.
Speaker 3:like the club like weapon, but only when hitting a home run. She couldn't do it no other time. When she's hitting a home run, she has enhanced strength, that's kind of so-so Bizarre Adventure type shit as is yeah part.
Speaker 3:But then once she had her magical transformation sequence okay, now we got Harley, is able to do some stuff, like she got magical bullets, she got the little hyena dolls and they like destroying stuff, the chain, the magical chains and stuff. I'm like, okay, now we got magical Harley. It feels like something Otherwise. Like that was pretty limited. Now Naoe's ability is he can heal from any wound. And then he got his armor. Yeah, and then he got his armor and his magical ability is he can heal from any wound. It didn't change anything. It was like wait what?
Speaker 1:It's like I mean, you know, like, what more do you want? Like you already got the version of King that literally ripped a guy In half in the movie. Like Do you want him to be even more broken?
Speaker 3:He was not broken in the show. He was Sorry. I felt bad for him.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, that's the thing. It's like, hypothetically speaking, like what more do you want?
Speaker 2:like you want.
Speaker 1:Like you were saying earlier, with the sharper teeth. Well, yeah, like, make him bigger, give him like something similar to Clayface, the way he can also be like a waterbender, like, yeah, like, let's go. Like, give him all this others. You give him the other Suicide Squad member Shit, like why does it seem like y'all kind of nerfing him? True? And my only final note Then.
Speaker 3:I can go ahead and say I'm done, shit like why does it seem like y'all kind of nerfing him? True, and my only final note. Then I can go ahead and say I'm done and I've said everything. I had stuff. I didn't empty my whole clip. That's why I handed it back to Talos. More stuff to say I purposely held back. But, um, arthur the dragon, I love Arthur Arthur's adorable back. But Arthur the dragon, I love Arthur Arthur's adorable.
Speaker 1:And I say hey, hey, what a wonderful time.
Speaker 3:No, but no for real. Though. How does a dragon grow overnight like that? Even Game of Thrones, that don't happen like that, bro, bro, like wait a second you imagine that dragon just rolling through the kingdom with that face.
Speaker 3:But the craziest thing for me and Arthur is the fact that, like, how you kill the mom? Peacemaker was like I've never had dragon before. Give me that frying pan, I'm gonna go ahead and cook it up. Like wait, peacemaker was like I've never had dragon before. Give me that frying pan, I'm gonna go ahead and cook it up. Peacemaker, don't do that. But uh, you you kill the mom, adopt the son and that's now your pet. I'm like that sounds like another day for harley, doesn't it?
Speaker 1:that sounds like an anime that just came out recently it probably is, I don't know, this internet, everything nowadays.
Speaker 3:I'm waiting for the time to get reincarnated as a um stove.
Speaker 1:Oh my, oh my god, the magical ability to cook any food that you stick in there. Like you just put a turkey, or like some ribs or whatnot, like boom, perfect, perfectly gone cooked and all that. Like god damn, like it would be like uh yeah, like something like that, you know, like this magical oven, like oh, we give no ideas oh gosh, but no um.
Speaker 3:but yeah, it's like. But I like Arthur, though Arthur really kind of saved up really good, but like Arthur was able to kind of save up, he showed up at the right moment and it wound up being like he did that you know that anime trope. He showed up at the right moment but Arthur was like it was important, like actually helped out. You know I like that at the right moment. But arthur was like it wasn't important, like actually helped out. You know I like that. Let's be real.
Speaker 3:I don't think they would have been able to take down the demon king or really even hold their own with enchantress if arthur wasn't there. Like on reals, arthur was like he was the one of the best pets and you're like yes, I have a pet dragon. But one thing I do like there were moments in the last four episodes I have screenshots on my phone because some of these were anime wallpaper moments that moment when the chances first went down and they were on the top of the roof parley, stepped on enchantress and then the dr. Then arthur came right behind her and was that and both of them was staring down enchantress and Enchantress was staring down the barrel of the gun. It was fantastic. I was like screenshot, that's going to be a wallpaper.
Speaker 1:Was there anything else?
Speaker 2:nah, no, no, no, it's covered like legit. It's covered all of a sudden. Dc.
Speaker 2:Do better if you're gonna bring out second season once again. Do better. Like cause this next time around, like I'm looking for something a whole lot better than this, like legit, if you're going to get Isakai, amanda Wallace shouldn't even know where to be around. Because this next time around, like I'm looking for something a whole lot better than this, like legit, if you're going to get Isekai, amanda Wallace shouldn't even know where to be around. Don't let that one like they're in a whole other dimension, she can't get to them. Let them be able to be free and go all the fuck out.
Speaker 1:Hey, you know what Kukigatsu On that note. On that note I'm thinking about the She-Hulk show and I'm looking at episode three. Like, perhaps I treated you too harshly.
Speaker 3:Don't you dare.
Speaker 1:I mean, at least compared to that. It's like that one scene is short-lived, the one scene with Amanda Wall. I'm like, yeah, that's gonna haunt my dreams, but, uh, if nothing else, I guess we're gonna go ahead and close it out. Uh, gentlemen, thank you for being on with me for this episode and I thank the ladies and gentlemen for listening to us to the end, like, yeah, pretty much this. For listening to us to the end, like, yeah, pretty much this is like the closest to the end.
Speaker 1:Excuse that we'll have to talk about all those suicide squad related um titles like peacemaker harley quinn, uh, virgin pray, all that. So don't even worry about a solo review on those, because I pretty much said what I got to say on those things right here and now. So, with that being said, remember to stay nerdy. Remember that we do have accounts on Facebook, instagram, twitter and all that other shit, and we do plan on launching a YouTube channel next year when we'll probably have more of the long format episodes with the videos and hopefully we can try to work something out, without the whole copyright bullshit going on, to better illustrate our points. So, until then, remember to stay nerdy. Great things are coming. We're zoning out, out here. So have yourself a good morning, good afternoon and good night.
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