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X-Men: The Xtreme Review (Deadpool Trilogy)
What if you could experience the Deadpool trilogy in a way that uncovers every hidden detail and behind-the-scenes moment? Join us on the X-Men Xtreme Review as we dissect the 2016 origin film "Deadpool," with Ryan Reynolds' iconic portrayal of Wade Wilson. Mira Jane shares her insights on Reynolds' comedic brilliance and how the movie's dark humor and explosive action scenes set a new standard for superhero films. We promise you’ll see why Deadpool is best enjoyed in a theater setting, where its outrageous energy leaps off the screen.
Ryan Reynolds’ journey as Deadpool goes beyond the surface, and we explore the depth of his dedication to the character and the fascinating dynamics with Hugh Jackman. From initial on-set tensions to a strong camaraderie, their evolving relationship adds layers of authenticity to their performances. We also delve into the impact of budget constraints on creative decisions, like borrowing scenes from X-Men First Class, and how Reynolds’ consistent humor across his career, with the exception of "Buried," cements his legacy as a versatile actor.
"Deadpool 2" took the franchise to new heights with a bigger budget and intricate plotlines, including time travel and star-studded cameos. We analyze the behind-the-scenes efforts to secure these cameos and speculate on what more the first film could have achieved with similar resources. The departure of TJ Miller from the series is another focal point, with a discussion on the implications of his exit. Wrapping up, we dive into fan theories and character moments, from Lady Deadpool’s potential casting to the chaotic antics of the Deadpool Corps, ensuring a fun and engaging conclusion to our review. Stay tuned for updates on our X-Men stream review series, and remember, stay nerdy!
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all righty. The next installment of the x-men extreme review is the deadpool trilogy. At last we get to this part where this on deadpool and wolverine was that inspired it. Oh, and I'm glad that we're here. Uh, this time I'm joined by miri jane and we're just gonna blaze through the trilogy real quick, so let's go ahead and zone in on it.
Speaker 1:Starting with the first film we have, deadpool, that came out in 2016. Essentially, this is the one where it's his origin story, how he became the Merc with a Mouth. He has this relationship with a sex worker named vanessa and the thing is, uh, they become involved, uh, eventually they get like engaged. But he got diagnosed with terminal cancer and got approached by this mysterious guy who offered him this experimental treatment, almost like a wolverine kind of origin, but not really. Uh, but the main bad guy is like ajax and assisted by angel dougs, um dark, I mean, played by gina carano, excuse me.
Speaker 1:Uh, essentially, they eject him with this serum, uh, waking these latent mutant genes that's in his body, so that essentially, he like was a mutant, but he didn't really have his powers fully until the operation, kind of like with um wolverines, where, like, if you've seen x-men or just wolverine even though I wouldn't recommend that as a legit origin story for him but essentially it's like, okay, he had powers, but you don't get the iconic like skill set of powers until, like a certain point where they get this pyramid done on them.
Speaker 1:But point being is that, okay, they subject Wade to torture to trigger the mutation and then eventually he just becomes who he is, but at the cost of having these severely disfigured, tumor-like scars all over his body. And now he's just pretty much out to get ajax, who left him for dead. And meanwhile ajax kidnapped vanessa and it becomes this whole revenge slash romance story, um, also starring colossus and negasonic teenage warhead which, by the way, even I was like. Oh, I know, um deadpool said it, but I was like what the shit that's? I'm sorry, but that name sounded so badass I was like what the hell it was.
Speaker 2:It was, it was. I can't even that was such a surprising name. It caught me off guard, honestly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it also helps that she's a likable character too. She reminds me of Raven in a sense. You know from DC, yeah for sure.
Speaker 1:Other than that, you know know typical Deadpool hijinks and personally I thought that the movie was great on its own. Honestly, I'm just gonna say this right now uh, I think the whole Deadpool trilogy is best experienced in the theaters. Like every time I go like I watch every Deadpool movie in the theaters first. That's how go like I watch every deadpool movie in the theaters first. That's how you know how hype a deadpool movie is, to where it's like oh man, it's one of those moves where you gotta see in theaters but I don't know what it is, but you just, you just can't let it slide until the streaming service.
Speaker 1:You just can't let it slide. So, um, and then you realize, yeah, in a sense the magic wears off when you watch it on streaming service Because, like, once you watch it like on Disney Plus and what not? Because it's going to be on there At this point now. I mean, the first two is already on there now, but it's only a matter of time that Wolverine is going to be on In like what? Three, very minimum three months, um, I feel like, um, even though they're still good, it's like I guess the magic was going to the theater and watching all of this shit unfold and you're like so amazed by how far they go on with it. But before we get to the second film, mira Jane, how do you feel about the first?
Speaker 2:honestly, it was my favorite movie when it first came out like that. It set a standard. First of all, I did not know Ryan Reynolds was that hilarious, like I knew he was funny, right you?
Speaker 1:know it's crazy, some people like him, some people don't. I'm like I'm one of those guys where I'm like, I mean, I I like ryan, like see, I like him um as far back as like van wilder. Um, that's when I like first introduced to him and I thought he was like funny as shit in that film. And I saw him in other things like uh, that one cameo and uh, harold and kumar, he was in blade and all that. It's like it seemed like he's always the same guy in all his films, like the change up and whatnot. But it doesn't come off as stale. That that's just the thing. It's like his sense of humor is never stale, but it's not for everybody either.
Speaker 2:It's really not, and I think that that's kind of the thing why some people like really didn't like Ryan Reynolds. It's because he comes across, Because we'll get to it.
Speaker 1:His sense of humor is more sexual.
Speaker 2:Not fully sexual.
Speaker 1:But yeah, that's the main thing.
Speaker 2:He played too much you got that friend who just be like bro, you play too much, and I think that that's Ryan Reynolds. And then, after we got Deadpool, then we had Hitman's bodyguard, right, right, like I think seeing him play a dressed-up version of Deadpool because, let's be honest, that's what he played in Hitman's bodyguard was even funnier, but it made me love him even more, like it made me. I was like, wow, he took he madepool classy in another movie and that that solidified it for me.
Speaker 1:but overall, deadpool is one of my favorite movies.
Speaker 2:I rated a 10 out of 10. It re. It brought some life back to me at that point because we needed. I needed an injection in my arm because I'm not going to lie to you while Avengers was great nothing ever wrong with at that point, nothing wrong with the Avengers, right but I wanted to laugh and that's what Deadpool makes you do. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, that's the thing. Deadpool is a comedy, it's a comedy trilogy. So it's like if you're not there for the comedy, then why are you here?
Speaker 2:and kind of like you said, uh, going to the theaters and watching it. There was not one deadpool movie I did not see in theaters, not one, right.
Speaker 1:And that's the weird part. When you think about yeah, like I just said, like um, it's almost like now, I remember I'm like, yeah, I've seen every Deadpool movie in theaters first I did not.
Speaker 2:There was no questions asked. I was gonna go see it, whatever was going on.
Speaker 1:I don't, but it was, I didn't right, normally.
Speaker 2:I was like I'll be, like I can wait, you know. But for those I was like, oh no, I'm going, I'm going, and there's something about laughing in the theaters with other people that and also you will really hate for the spoiler wave to get to you and you're just like dang I didn't get a chance to watch it yet I am so good at ducking and dodging spoilers, bro, I'm I'm amazing.
Speaker 2:I don't know how, but I'm pretty good at ducking and dodging spoilers for at least three months Now. After them three months, it's pretty much everywhere and I can't avoid it. But I can put my phone down. I can ignore every notification that comes from Facebook. I can do it for about a good three months. After those things, I can't do it.
Speaker 1:That's the thing. My problem is being the leader of the zone, I have to make sure that we have social media presence. I have to treat social media like a part-time job and I can't help the fact that some folks just can't help themselves but at least slide some memes about the movie. I even had to tell folks hey, man, listen, can we bleep? I know I watched the movie, so personally I don't care, but be more considerate of others Please.
Speaker 2:I think there should be at least A three month, like I think people should have no pretty much too long I say two months.
Speaker 1:I would scale it back to one.
Speaker 2:I would scale it back to one, the only reason why I would scale it back to one.
Speaker 1:I would scale it back to one. The only reason why I would scale it back to one is because within one month's time it's still fresh enough to where people would still want to talk about it. But after two or three months it's like, yeah, but also we kind of don't feel like talking about it anymore.
Speaker 2:That's, you're right. You're right About a month, you're right, I about it anymore. That's, you're right. You're right about a month. You're right. I'll give you that about a month now with this movie. I ain't gonna lie to you. I was like a week, y'all got a week. Y'all got one week. We knew this was coming, we knew this was happening.
Speaker 1:yeah, one week like I was just trying to be like kind of chill, like I would have told him like one month, like can we at least have one month for a fan from like see, if it was any other movie I wouldn't care. Because, I'm not going to tell everybody like, hey man, I'm not going to go watch all the movies.
Speaker 2:So there's just some things where I'm like, oh well, if you want to share the memes, like I'll probably watch it later, like with the marvels, like hey man, y'all can bring the memes on with that, because I'm like, hey man, I'll take my time on that shit I think the last thing I want to mention is the fact that ryan reynolds work ethic to get this movie, to get this first movie out um, leaking the script right like everything he did, forcing people to make this movie, filming his own uh, basically little pilot and and leaking that to get this movie done. And it is commendable because he was right, like he did not let us down. He knew he could play this role, like he knew deadpool in and out, backwards and forwards, and he did not let us down. He delivered every step of the way down. He delivered every step of the way oh, hell yeah and that I think that's what I'll say.
Speaker 2:This that's what kind of separates Deadpool the first one away from all of the other ones and any other. Honestly, marvel sent him up from the MCU. No offense, just saying, the dedication that this man had to get this out speaks volumes. So the dedication that this man had To get this out Speeds volumes.
Speaker 2:So that's the last thing I wanted to get. I just want to commend Ryan Reynolds, and I appreciate him so much For putting this out. No lie hands down. Is there like a comedic award? They should have won Comedy awards On this movie. The relationship aspect comedic award. They should have won a comedy award on this movie because it was so the relationship aspect. It made me want a toxic relationship like that. It highlighted it. Okay, alright, don't do that to me.
Speaker 1:See, I knew it, but I kind of want to keep it going because, like, if we um focus on that too much, we're going to be here all night let's, we can.
Speaker 2:We can recap it because we get to the end of it.
Speaker 1:So let's get to uh, who did pull two uh I was about to say, uh, did he win some accolades?
Speaker 1:uh, okay, so nominated for two golden awards, uh, four critical awards, uh, director's guild, okay, yeah, it did good oh man okay okay yeah that's what's up uh, oh yeah, since kooka got to, couldn't make it for this one and I do apologize, bro, like I know you want to be on it, but things happen. But he wanted to slide me some notes. But he was saying that how the budget changed several times through the film, with a final cut just weeks before the filming was to be finished, and the plot was changed by ryan um several times. Uh, the change in his healing factor worked well for the movie. The recycled scene from X-Men First Class as a gag to the budget was Ryan calling out the team for cutting his budget last minute.
Speaker 1:And the change in Alan's story was great because the original was too much for screen. So, in other words, he's got a little too mature. Like you know, sometimes changes are necessary in the context of the story. So, in other words, you've got to mature. Like you know, sometimes changes are necessary In the context of the story. So I feel that the main thing I'm thinking like, was it this movie that the X-Men First Class Ensemble was on? I thought that was the second movie. I thought that it was the second movie.
Speaker 2:It was the second one right. It was the second movie. I thought that it was the second movie. It was the second one right.
Speaker 1:It was the second movie. I'm like come on, you guys Do better.
Speaker 2:It was the second one, or was it both? No, no, wait no.
Speaker 1:Hold on, goddamn, you know what. I'm just going to make sure I'm going to look it up, what I'm just gonna make sure I'm I'm gonna look it up. I'm pretty sure that it was the second movie I'm trying to remember and it had to be like the second movie. Oh yeah, I did like how, in the first movie, hugh Jackman, like they, um when he uh he was seen kind of in the film on uh people magazines, um when he uh was given the hottest man alive, yeah, sexist man alive, oh man so you know, that was like for a scene where I'm like, yeah, you know, uh right, no, actually funny thing is hugh wanted to work with ryan on on deadpool wolverine.
Speaker 1:It wasn't even ryan's idea to um force you, jackman, back into the fold. No, you actually want to jump on for deadpool.
Speaker 2:One was the reason why yeah, he said that would be. He said the only reason he would come back, um, and I was kind of saving that tidbit for when we got to it. But the only reason he would come back was for to be in the deadpool movie with ryan reynolds, because it it was so funny. And he finally got, because, you know, he didn't like ryan reynolds right initially, like he didn't get his humor, he didn't get it at all. I forgot what movie they worked on. Oh, the, the original the x-men movie, um, and he could not, yeah, he could not stand him on set because he was playing all the time.
Speaker 2:He didn't?
Speaker 1:I mean, that's the same thing with blade. But look at them now and get what we're bringing listen, listen.
Speaker 2:so come back full circle turnaround. He sees the movie. He's like oh Ain't it you. This is really your personality Like this is actually you, no wait, this wasn't like that's it.
Speaker 1:I didn't think anything. This is you. That's what I'm saying. It's like have you seen ryan reynolds in any other film?
Speaker 2:like yeah, I'm pretty convinced he's the same guy, no matter what film he in I feel he's just amping it up a little bit or toning it down a little bit. You know what I mean? The only movie where I was like, oh, uh, and it's not one that people just go and pick up and watch, but Buried was the only movie and it's on Tubi, if anybody wants to go check it out. Buried. It was the only movie. I was like, okay, this is a little bit Of a different Ryan. It was a serious Ryan. It was a serious Ryan, but other than that, yeah, not Wolverine Dang, that's how many times he's played the role at this point.
Speaker 2:Hugh Jackman did not understand Ryan Reynolds at all initially, and then he, like you said, he saw the Deadpool movie and that was the reason he actually wanted to make a comeback, because he finally understood it.
Speaker 1:Right Now, without trying to waste too much time, let's go ahead and talk about Deadpool 2. By the way, it wasn't Deadpool 2. The X-Men first class ensemble.
Speaker 2:See, I'm like I knew it was Deadpool 2. Alright Koku, alright Koku Vasu. You don't make me feel like I was smoking.
Speaker 1:I'm like hold on, where are you coming from? I thought it was in the movie that they showed him. I remember it was yesterday. I was trying to get prepared for this review. I'm pretty sure it was the second one. By the way, I did like the addition to the exports where they have a whole bunch of people showing up alongside with Cable and everybody. But I guess I have to say I did like Sassy Beast as Domino in this one. I don't know, I was like something. I just really like her inclusion into the film um, I agree, yeah, I absolutely agree.
Speaker 2:She did phenomenal. I I love she has that cool face. You know what I mean yeah so, uh, it looks so chill when everything was going haywire behind her it. You had the sense that she was calm, cool and collected. It felt natural. But I agree, I liked her there. Uh, I know a lot of guys liked her there too. I I mean I feel like Tyler the creator said it best when he said his girls look like Zazie, beetz and Khalees. So shout out to Tyler the creator and Zazie.
Speaker 1:Beetz. So essentially in Deadpool 2, wade is fighting organized crime for two years. He failed to kill one of his targets on the anniversary With his girlfriend, vanessa, and then they decide to start a family together. They started to track down the target, started to track Wade down, ends up killing Vanessa, but then Wade kills him in revenge. Six weeks later Wade is like self-hating himself, like he's just feeling real cut up about losing Vanessa.
Speaker 1:And eventually Cable gets back and gets into the mix where he's trying to kill this mutant named Russell Collins, owned by uh, who's at this orphanage owned by x's corporation, which, by the way, reminds me of how the new mutants also reference the x's corporation. And if you're like deep into x-men, you will know that the x's corporation is owned by mr sinister. Who's this guy? That's like trying to pretty much do what Striker did in X-Men Origins Wolverine, to where he wants to gather all these mutants and experiment on them and try to analyze their powers. Except he's not trying to make that into Deadpool, he wants those powers for himself. So, essentially, cable to make that into Deadpool, he wants those powers for himself. So essentially, cable goes back in time from the future, by the way, to kill Russell because he's labeled as a mutant. He's at a mutant re-education system and learned that he's being abused at this orphanage.
Speaker 1:Wade kills one of the staff members before being restrained by Colossus. By the way, he's back along with Negasonic Teenage Warhead and her girlfriend Yukio, and I like their between Deadpool and Yukio. I kind of like that thing they got going on. It's like hi Yu-Gi-Oh. It's like hi Wade, I like that.
Speaker 1:Essentially, cable's trying to kill Russell and Deadpool got to stop him All this other shit going on. Eventually, wade has another vision of Vanessa, where she's convinced him to help Russell.
Speaker 1:So he organized the X-Force to free Russell from the prison and protect him from Cable. And while all that's happening, all the members die during the landing. And while all that's happening, all the members die during the landing, except for Wade and Domino, who's, if you know, her main superpower is claimed to be pure luck. But in actuality I think Domino just have what was called probability manipulation, so it's almost like she has good luck but at the cost of everybody else having bad luck, like so. In other words, say, for instance, all that shit that was going on in the background while she was running and like she's going to be fine. I don't know about the rest of y'all.
Speaker 2:Is it wrong that that makes me even more OK with it? Like, listen, we go turn the tides of luck here just in my favor. Okay, the rest of y'all, if y'all happen to survive, maybe you're a little lucky hey, uh, mj.
Speaker 1:By any chance, have you ever heard of this anime called good luck girl?
Speaker 1:no well, it's like a. It's like a short I think 12 to 13 uh episode anime to where, uh, they're this girl and she's like super lucky, she's like beautiful, busty and everything. She's like super popular and all that, but she kind of have a uh, let's just say she's kind of a bitch behind closed doors and long story short. She uh gets visited by this bad luck spirit and trying to balance things out because she has too much luck and blah, blah. Point being is that all in that anime it seems like all that uh good luck around there's where nothing's gonna happen to that girl, but everybody else, I don't know oh my god, god, the domino effect.
Speaker 1:Exactly so look up Good Luck Girl in your pre-time ladies and gentlemen, if you're interested. I thought it was funny, especially with all the different references, you know, like Dragon Ball Z and whatnot. It makes those kind of references in that show, so give it a chance.
Speaker 2:What's that? Is it Grand Country Roll? I believe so.
Speaker 1:Okay, alright, right, I'll check it out myself. Yeah, so, essentially, while wade is recovering, cable offered to work with him and domino to stop russell from killing the headmaster, and russell will then become a serial killer who slaughters Cable's family and all that bullshit and keep in mind Cable is like a distant descendant of Cyborg and whatnot. I'm not Cyborg, fuck Cyclops.
Speaker 2:Oh, snap, he is, isn't he?
Speaker 1:Yeah, so don't forget that. So, with that being said, in fact, let me think he's the son of Cyclops and his first wife, madeline Pryor, jean Grey's clone. So if you've seen X-Men 97, you're very familiar with Madeline Pryor. So yeah, that's the baby Cyclops made with Madeline Jean Grey. I'm going to talk about X-Men 97 at some point but I'm like, hey, yo, listen, listen, it's the same thing with QE from season 4 of the Boys, but I'll get on that subject later oh my god, um so interesting fact, right did you know?
Speaker 1:initially brad pitt was supposed to play cable yeah, I did not know that part, but I know he was in the film and that's the funny part is like the cameos were so crazy that you can barely tell that uh, whoever was in the film in fact there was like this one dude who was like an overweight, like hillbilly type dude. That was Matt Damon, by the way wait, that was, that was Matt.
Speaker 2:What? Really? That is crazy. I did not know that. Holy snap. I will say the cameos in this movie were so fantastic, so on point, so great. It's so funny how they got Brad Pitt to because, how they got him to do the cameo because he really wanted to play a cable um but of course, manager.
Speaker 1:But oh, bro, you know what? I'm kind of mad about what it was uh, an omega red cameo and that kind of slid past me the first time around where, like bro, like that did not look like omega red cameo and that kind of slid past me the first time around to where, like bro, like that did not look like omega red to me, but I guess. So you just told me something with a minute?
Speaker 2:when did I miss that?
Speaker 1:uh, yeah, um, played by dakota chef. We had a cameo as a fellow Icebox inmate, so that was when they were like trying to fuck you out and all that. And that was Omega Red over there and I was like wait, hold on that's Omega Red.
Speaker 2:Oh snap, I did not even notice that.
Speaker 1:See, that's why, back when on X-Men Origins, wolverines where, if you pay close attention, there was like a girl with like a streak of purple hair that was supposed to be dialogue yeah, dang.
Speaker 2:So you mean they really amped this up, they really did okay. So my question is how did you feel about, uh, the movie in general? Like, what did you really think?
Speaker 1:I thought it was kind of a step up story-wise for deadpool because it was like, okay, the first one felt a little more simple, to where, okay, origin story guys save the girl, blah, blah, blah, like it just felt a little formulated, but except it was deadpool. So, um, deadpool obviously carries all these films, but outside of that deadpool one it's still good, but it felt like a little more, a little more simplistic. Deadpool 2, okay, I like the inclusion that at the end of the film he ends up getting that time travel watch that the same cable had, and then he went back in time to kill off his alternate version from X-Men Origins, wolverine, and then also he kills the version of Ryan Reynolds that finished reading the screenplay for Green Lantern. Like I like all that shit honestly.
Speaker 1:So I'd say Deadpool 2 felt more fun, like, see, not to say that it was better than deadpool one, but I just thought, oh, it was like a little bit more extra. Like, uh, I felt like, okay, since the first one was so successful and keep in mind that, uh, back in the notes that the budget was changed several times during the film that okay, I can tell that, um, deadpool was more of a lower scale. But then when they got to death hole two, when they and they threw all those cameos in, that's how you can tell okay, they pretty much got enough money to do whatever the fuck they want. Like enough to get like um brad pitt and um matt damon, all of them to do a cameo.
Speaker 2:I'm like, yeah, like that's interesting that you bring it up, because, um, not matt damon, um what's his name? The manager got dirty. Why am I blanking out just? Advantage um, oddly enough, he only got paid a cup of coffee, a Starbucks cup of coffee oh no, didn't he say that he didn't mind doing it for free?
Speaker 2:he did it for like the minimum of the of what they're required to get paid as an actor, and the other mandatory part of that was a Starbucks cup of coffee hand delivered by Ryan Reynolds. So they really, in order to save on the budget so we could have the other cameos as well, they leveraged a lot of Ryan Reynolds relationships and some people just turned it into like an ongoing joke of him doing things for them. So that one that's pretty cool. You're not wrong, though, because with all the cameos, with um, everything that ends up happening, especially cinematic wise, I'm definitely glad they had a bigger budget, and it kind of makes me wonder what they even could have done with a bigger budget for the first movie.
Speaker 1:You know what, before we move on, you know, before we move on to Deadpool, wolverine, can I just say I'm actually kind of glad that they got rid of Weasel, because PJ Miller oh my god, bro, listen, I can't stand this man, his See, the funny thing is his um sense of humor. It just kind of feels um like uh, he had that same like you know how, just saying how, with Ryan and Reynoldsynolds he had that um saying sense of humor where it just seems like, uh, it just sounds like he's the same guy but uh, it just never stale with him. Uh, with tj miller. I don't know what it is about the guy, but it's like I'm just not, I just don't like it, I I don't in. Funny enough.
Speaker 1:The best thing he did was not even in this film. It was in that one Transformers film with Mark Wahlberg and it was that one death where it just seemed like his skeleton was just in place, like almost like he was just running away and for some reason it just didn't even look like a real skeleton, it just looked like for a comedic effect and that was like the funniest shit. But that's the funny thing. It's like the funniest bit I ever seen him do was his death.
Speaker 2:I was gonna say it was Die that's. You're not wrong, it was. I didn't know that that was TJ Miller. I'm excited to remember that because I could not stop laughing at that part.
Speaker 1:The funny part is like he was saying that, oh well, I can't work with Ryan, I just can't stand this guy. And then next thing you know, he's out of the film.
Speaker 2:So, whatever, You're not going gonna be missed anyway I mean, wasn't there also like just a bunch of controversy surrounding him anyway, like with sa and physical assault?
Speaker 1:yeah, probably. Uh, that's why, uh, a lot of people were saying that, oh, oh, he got canceled, even though, honestly, I never really cared for him that much to begin with, so that's why I didn't look into it that much but people were saying that, oh, he got canceled and all that shit. But I like how Koki got to mention how, oh, he didn't do a film since 2020 anyway. So I'm like, yeah, you're cooked, buddy, you're done.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he film since 2020 anyway. So I'm like yeah, you're cooked, buddy, you're done.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he, I don't even know sexual assault uh, amtrak bomb threat incident yeah, you're cooked.
Speaker 2:He, yeah, and no one can ever really work with him. Again like no one. I, I just don't see where and the there's no accountability there. And then you're like, oh yeah, no, I'll never work with Ryan Reynolds again. Pretty sure he don't want to work with you.
Speaker 1:He got kicked off the One how to Train your Dragon movie, the Hidden World, and he got his voice lines overdubbed by Justin Ruppel. Oh, okay, I don'tbed by.
Speaker 2:Justin Ruppel. Oh, okay, it was on.
Speaker 1:Tough Night. If you've seen that film, that was going to be TJ Miller, but no.
Speaker 2:Okay, but what I do like is that they decided not to even recast the role either. I like that they just abandoned the role completely. Like we don't, it's fine.
Speaker 1:I mean that's why I was saying like we already have Ryan, so we don't really need another guy with the same, similar kind of sense of humor. So it's like it just feels redundant to have him anyways.
Speaker 2:It did feel pretty redundant to have him. I can agree to that, especially in deadpool wolverine, like I just don't think he would have been needed um, that's okay, we're gonna go ahead and slide into deadpool, wolverine.
Speaker 1:So, uh, I'm gonna say how, between hugh and ryan they were both saying how it just works for them to have like this dynamic to where you have the straight man type character who's like all serious, and they had the goofball character. That kind of balanced things out and it was like that buddy cop dynamic that people like and it kind of does work on special for these two. So let's go in and get into the real meat and potatoes. Deadpool and wolverine man. Listen, I was waiting on this film for a while, like two years since it was announced, and there was so much hype around and people were saying, like all these different cameos, like please stop, you're fucking up my expectations, because if you're hyping it up too much Then I'm going to feel like Something's going to go wrong with it. But Actually I enjoyed it just as much as the last two. Actually I think I enjoyed it More than the last two.
Speaker 1:Like for starters the opening how they said okay, we're gonna be respectful to the events of Logan by by doing nothing. He dug his body out of the ground trying to figure out okay, are you the right guy?
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:Apparently not.
Speaker 2:First of all, I love that it opened with bye-bye-bye Like. I love that it opened with Bye, bye, bye, like that. That made me when I was in the theater.
Speaker 1:For that I was like sitting here like Ain't no fucking way. I mean I'm not mad, but like ain't no fucking way.
Speaker 2:I was up Doing the dance, okay, like I was sitting all the way at the top, so I was not blocking anyone's view, all right, but this moment was like a moment and it kind of it's a great opening number when you think about how well it actually ends up playing into it, because they said they weren't going to disrespect Logan, and it's like saying bye, bye, bye to the. Even the comment like, nah, sorry, we're actually gonna disrespect Logan, we're gonna dig up his body.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah and uh. You made a major body change for the film and ripped his Broadway uniform on stage while filming. And what's happening was told?
Speaker 1:yep, daddy's back after having his ass there oh my god, no see that film where it was like, oh, okay, at the end I know we're kind of jumping around but uh, at the endings where, like um, they were trying to uh have their big hero moment. And then, you know, when Deadpool Wolverine got ripped off and revealing the abs, and then even Deadpool was looking at him like hell, yeah, bro.
Speaker 2:Deadpool was doing exactly what every woman in that audience was doing or, if you prefer, whatever your preference is.
Speaker 1:I mean the way I saw it. When I saw it, I was like you know what?
Speaker 2:one for the ladies can't even get mad, that and I felt some kind of way because, like how you look that good. First of all, no offense, I'm just going to go ahead and say I'm going to say this now His wife couldn't have left him. I could not have left. I couldn't. Where, where was I going? Where is she going? Where is she? Who is she going to go to? He's six foot something and ripped with an accent.
Speaker 1:Accent, I'm not going nowhere, I'm not just I don't know what it is, mj, but I can only imagine that sometimes, when you think you got, it's like uh, you heard of um that one joke some ladies will say about uh, the husband's door, you heard of that joke oh, lord okay, all right, I got you.
Speaker 1:No, no, I got you, I got you. So, the husband's door. Imagine it being like a mall and you go in there and you find a dude and he's like bare minimum attractive and acceptable, you know, like an average dude like he's. I like he got his shit together for the most part, but he's like average at best. So he's like okay, this guy's not bad, but I can do better, so let's go on to the second floor. Alright, this guy makes like almost six figures and he's like slightly more trapped than the last guy. Okay, this guy is better than the last guy, but I can do better, so I'm gonna keep going. And then, okay, now this guy makes more than like definitely makes six figures. Okay, this is cool, I can do better. This guy. This next guy is a fucking millionaire. He got Bentleys and Bugattis and Mints and all that. Okay, this is cool, but I can do better.
Speaker 1:Eventually you get to the next level and it's the fucking ceiling. There's nothing here and I was like wait, hold on, where's all the men go? I was like, exactly, nothing's ever good enough for your asshole. You just keep leaving them and leaving them and leaving them. That's the thing. Okay, okay.
Speaker 2:It's like that once, princess like maybe she's just like mother.
Speaker 1:Oh my god, it's like that, once gone on princess, like maybe she's just like Mother. She's never satisfied.
Speaker 2:That's so true. Shout out to Prince when doves cry. Baby, can you picture every time someone leaves their husband at the store, another dove just flies in there, and that only part of the song plays.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Okay, but the movie itself was absolutely amazing. There is not a better movie this year. There's not going to be another movie this year that can top this movie, at least for me. It had everything. It had sad moments. It had sad moments. It had growth moments. It had somewhat bring you to tears moment not really but Deadpool was very humanized in this movie and that was different, because Deadpool always feels out of this world. He never feels relatable at times. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2:but, in this one, the fact that we get boiling down to the point of it all, and it's the fact that he's never been quote unquote needed right.
Speaker 1:I think no one's ever needed a deadpool and yeah, that was this whole arc in all, the whole trilogy, to where he just wanted to matter to p he did.
Speaker 2:He just wanted to matter and in the way that they kind of brought that To fruition I loved with the TVA or, as we find out, a fake sector of the TVA who broke off Right. They used that factoid against them Because they've been watching this this whole time, they know, they know how he's feeling Right. And it's also the same thing, if you want to take that into like a Somewhat psychological factor, the fact that feeling right. And it's also the same thing if you want to take that into like a somewhat psychological factor, the fact that you you don't know what you technically need, but someone else can be on the outside looking in and can kind of tell like hey, bro, you, you, you need to feel like you belong, and kind of finding out that he the only reason he wanted to go join the Avengers in the first place was because he was going through relationship problems.
Speaker 1:See, that's the funny thing too, now that I think about it, after all the events of while he was going through his time travel device to bring his girlfriend Vanessa back, he travels from his universe to the sacred timeline or 616 to join the Avengers, like you were saying. And when he got rejected he was like I just don't know, and that's the funny thing Um Way, I mean, vanessa Way broke up like almost immediately After that and I was like, wow, really Like and that was the funny thing the actress, uh Morena, who was playing she did not like the idea of being kissing him or having, like a sexual relationship with him and I like I kind of fucked up. But I kind of fucked up, but I kind of understand. I mean, you know how attraction is not a choice, whatever the case may have been, but that was just a funny and a sad way. I don't know how to feel about it.
Speaker 2:I wonder why.
Speaker 1:Um, I forgot to look into it, honestly, but that's just how she felt, Like she was just not into it.
Speaker 2:Hmm, okay.
Speaker 1:So it kind of makes sense for, like the third film. It's like eh I uh, can I like? Not do this break up in this one Like. I just can't stand this guy. I mean not the character. The character still likes him, it's just the actress is just not into him. It's kind of like oh how in um the Dark Knight, where Heath Ledger's Joker was legitimately scary to Katie Holmes and you kind of see that in her acting it wasn't that she was acting scared, she was legitimately scared. It was kind of like that.
Speaker 2:Okay, okay, I had to look it up Cause, like I, I had to know, like why. She said it was like kissing a giant latex condom.
Speaker 1:So you're going to do the TJ Miller jokes on him? No, that's what it sounds like. It's like, so you're doing it too. Now I mean, can you imagine if no, no, no, imagine if that was actually in the movie, to where she breaks up with Wade. And he was like, why, why? After all this time I was like, bro, listen, it's like kissing a latex condom. It's like Sleeping a latex condom. It's like sleeping. It's like having that one drunk night where you're just so sloppy drunk that the next morning you just end up waking up using a slice of pizza as a pillow.
Speaker 1:It's like one of those kind of jokes. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah You're not wrong. I just I get it. I get why. I guess because of the costume it was probably really truly uncomfortable. But by the way, I'm sorry, because of the costume it was probably really truly uncomfortable, but I also didn't, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:by the way, can I talk about how, with the costume, like you would think it's mostly like CGI, but in a way Deadpool is one of the only characters that makes CGI work for him, like it's just a CGI friendly costume. Meanwhile you'll see shit like hold on, like how is it that they can make Deadpool work? But with She-Hulk in some frames he look like something straight from a PS2 game.
Speaker 2:Let's not talk about She-Hulk.
Speaker 1:We don't leave She-Hulk with She-Hulk, ohulk, oh, and also kind of funny like even though she-hulk also did fourth wall break. It's like stop it, it's not deadpool. Yeah, like deadpool did it better.
Speaker 2:It just weren't as funny and and hmm, I sound like, I know I sound like a hater, I know there's someone out there who's like she's hating on it, but I just it wasn't that funny I mean we don't like. You're not the only one though yeah, like that's true. That's true, the fourth wall breaks that. Deadpool does it. Sometimes it's like him giving us extra context that we don't need to a situation. Her just felt like she was explaining to me a joke that I had already got like over and over again listen the moment.
Speaker 1:She was like that one episode where it was episode 5. I remember this because I know episode three was the one that everybody was like bro, really, that's where we're at now. And then episode four. That's when wong made his cameo. And then episode five jen said some shit where I'm like you know what, I can never take you seriously from this point forward. She said, uh, oh, everybody likes Wong. It's like having Twitter armor for a week. So you knew. You knew that people wasn't gonna like episode 3. Then you put Wong in episode 4 so that way, oh, people gonna think episode 3 is so shit. Let me get a fan favorite character in the next one, so people leave us alone for a week so you knew that it was bad, you knew that it was shitty, you knew that.
Speaker 1:I can never take them seriously. They tortured you, jb, they didn't torture me.
Speaker 2:I want you to know I can never take them seriously. They tortured you, JB. They didn't torture me. I want you to know my expectations were already at the ground, Only because like I was, and this is let's not talk about.
Speaker 2:She-Hulk. She-hulk is something that just makes my eyebrows sizzle off, so I would like to keep some the ones that I do have. I would like to keep my little eyebrows. But in that same vein, Deadpool does something right. He knows how to get you emotionally invested in the jokes he knows exactly. The storytelling in Deadpool and Wolverine was absolutely phenomenal. Can we talk about my favorite appearance?
Speaker 1:Yes, let's go ahead and get into the cameos now. What was your favorite?
Speaker 2:I screamed when I saw Blade was back.
Speaker 1:When I saw Wasted Stranger.
Speaker 2:I screamed. I was like I forgot where I was. I know I was in the movies, but I just screamed Blade, like not Wesley Trinidad, I was actually I was legitimately surprised when I saw Blade.
Speaker 1:I was like whoa, I mean, I thought you wouldn't work with this guy anymore after Blade Trinity. But I'm like, I guess I'm like. But the funny thing was when he said like I still don't like you, and Deadpool was like, yeah, you know, fair enough. And I was like, hey, I know what that's about.
Speaker 2:Right, right, well, okay, so I did not know that. I did not know that. I did not know that before I watched the movie. So, leaving the movie, I was like I have to go look this up. So I'm doing a deep dive and I'm like and it's the exact same issue yeah but if you don't know that, that's that person's sense of humor. Like if you don't know them and y'all are just doing a movie together, right, and y'all not friends, y'all don't hang it out.
Speaker 1:Do you want to know what did it for me?
Speaker 2:What.
Speaker 1:I mean I'm going to let you finish, but I want to tell you the one cameo that did it for me, okay, kanye. I don't want to do any of that.
Speaker 2:I have to say it Go. I don't want to do any of that.
Speaker 1:I have to say it. Go ahead, cavalpool, I mean Cavalreen, excuse me, because I was not ready to see Henry Cavill as Wolverine. I was like, hey, man, listen, if they decide to recast Hugh Jackman as Wolverineine, I would say Henry Cavill should be a top contender at this point because I'm getting so sick and tired of this man getting treated dirty by these studios that don't even know how to carry a fucking uh IP to where. I'm like the one dude that knew the fucking homework and you get rid of him because, oh well, you know he's making things too accurate to the source material.
Speaker 2:I'm like, and Okay, and what's the problem? Um?
Speaker 1:there was a lot of cameos. That completely caught me off guard uh that you're not wrong.
Speaker 2:That cameo definitely. Um, it did something to me. I'm gonna be honest with you. I was not ready for. I'm not saying that hugh jackman isn't handsome, but there's a different handsomeness to henry cap like he has a rugged handsome yeah and he it. He brought something else. It was a little different. You, I would love to see that.
Speaker 1:I ain't gonna lie, I can totally oddly enough, I think this like one of the only times I've no, no, no, I take that back. I've seen it with with facial hair, but like he makes it work with and without this facial hair.
Speaker 2:Honestly, he's so, he's so handsome. I don't think there's a better word to describe him other than handsome, you know.
Speaker 1:I mean that's why dude is like he's like Chris Evans in a sense, to where he's never gonna have a problem on Finding women, he's gonna have a problem with Choosing women. Bro that swerved when I was one of those people that Thought, oh my god, cap is in the void and Bill is like, oh yeah, he gonna sit there. He gonna sit there and play, and Bill's like, and he's like, oh yeah, he's gonna sit there. I'm like he's gonna sit in the flame and I'm like excuse you, can we just?
Speaker 2:can we just just get to Chris Evans doing that amount of cussing in the movie.
Speaker 1:Oh, and bro, listen, they got to pulled up on Cassandra Nova and I'm going to talk about her in a bit and Deadpool was like hey, man, you should have heard all that shit he was saying about you. Man, he was like the most foul shit I ever heard. Like bro, johnny chill.
Speaker 1:And then Johnny was like, hey, man, I didn't say any of all that shit, but no, but listen, like when you I feel I almost feel bad for the people who left, but then again I don't know if I would say that it was worth staying for the credits. But and the post credits, you will see, um, that uh, deadpool goes back to the tva and get a clip to where I know that motherfucker said all that shit, so let me me get it. And then you see him saying all that and then Deadpool's like, yeah, got you, motherfucker.
Speaker 2:Bro, deadpool had to prove it wasn't me this time. Like listen, usually it is me, but this time it was not me. And everyone was like. He was like because I didn't get him killed. And can we talk about how Wolverine did not have Deadpool's back at all? Wolverine wasn't like, yeah, he said it. No, he kept his nose shut, yeah, and just said you got that guy killed.
Speaker 1:I'm like bro, but he said all that shit. I was just um reading back everything, but no and that's the other thing too.
Speaker 2:Cassandra nova knew that.
Speaker 1:He said it already but let's talk about some of these other cameos where we got electro, we got x, where we got Elektra, we got X-23,. We got Channing Tatum at the game and, by the way, bro, that Cajun accent was so sick, that Creole. I'm like, yeah, that Creole. Like bro, half the time I was just like Deadpool too. I'm like what the fuck is he saying?
Speaker 2:I was like what is he saying, and can he say it to me?
Speaker 1:No, it's like the first rush hour movie. It was like can you speak it in English, do you?
Speaker 2:oh my god. He did so good and there's a clip of him in 2015 reading I think it's from 2015, reading Christmas stories with that accent. So he's been practicing this accent for a very long time.
Speaker 1:He wanted to do this for a while, yeah.
Speaker 2:He did, and this is a great. I feel like we should. Do you think a standalone Gambit movie? Do you think you would like it?
Speaker 1:it has to be an origin story and it has to introduce. It has Rogue in there obviously, because you know that was like the main love interest of his. Outside of that it would have to be a villain that we normally don't see, but it would make sense For him to or her to go up against Gambit. I can kind of see. It depends on If it's like, if the peace are in place, like all the.
Speaker 1:You know, I can kind of see it, but it really depends on when they're going with the story. It has to be an origin story for sure, but outside of that I can kind of see it.
Speaker 2:I could see it too.
Speaker 1:Other cameos Pyro, the guy from X2 and X3 came back for that. Uh, I'm trying to look up the other ones, excuse me. Uh, there was one. Oh bro, saber tooth came back and you were thinking, oh shit, we're probably gonna get that wolverine saber tooth fight that we should have gotten in X1, but it was so short-lived I was like you know what, let's just move on. That was the best we're going to get. Azazel came back, lady Deathstrike came back, psylocke came back, toad came back, bullseye came back, callisto and Quill I guess there was obviously in the beginning of the movie. There was still Pinder, negus Sun, teenage Warhead, yukio Colossus, shatterstar.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, let me talk about Cassandra Nova. I like how with her she's the Stillborn sister Of Charles Xavier, professor X. She Was never born but she was like living in the void the whole time and apparently she's so powerful as a Telepath and psychic you know, pretty much the same powers as charles and xavier, but more twisted. And the thing was the fact that she could have been in x-Men movies, but her inclusion in this movie just makes more sense to where she was, like cast aside, just like a lot of things that was in the void, like you saw all those different stuff that was lying around in that void, like the Fox logo, like hell.
Speaker 1:Even that first fight scene with Wolverine and Deadpool, there was a comic like a few feet away from deadpool. That was supposed to be um, a reference, an easter egg to secret wars, with um dr doom on the cover. So the fact that we just now have rdj confirmed as dr doom and that doomsday and secret wars is coming up, it just kind of shows that okay, the little nudge nudge right there. There was a whole bunch of easter eggs in the whole film that honestly I would say, look it up on youtube and find all the Easter eggs. I would say I would recommend Either Emergency Awesome or New Rockstars for Easter eggs.
Speaker 2:Dig in New Rockstars.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, let's talk about the Deadpool Corps. How we had, like Nightpool and Dogpool and Lady Deadpool and people were saying, like it has to be the wife, it has to be Ryan Reynolds' wife, blake Lively. And that was the one time where I would like try to glue it to the screen in post-credits scenes, where I was trying to see if they would say Blake White.
Speaker 2:We had Lady Deadpool, I knew it, I knew it was her yeah, and a lot of people also wanted it to be Taylor Swift, but when we saw that the face was covered, we were like it's not Taylor Swift, but I like that. We got Lady Deadpool. Now Dogpool stole the show. Let's be honest here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, and can we just talk about Night Spool for a moment, to where, like first of all, Deadpool Prime was like how come you're not wearing a mask? And he was like come on, guys.
Speaker 2:You cover up this face.
Speaker 1:Right, and the long, long hair and shit. I'm like I mean alright, and I like how Deadpool was sitting there like man fuck you.
Speaker 2:Oh so he just didn't get the burn marks like I got.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and not only that, he's just jealous. How like, oh, so you got the nice face and you got the dog and, uh, gold-plated um, desert eagle, whatever that was. And then he just used uh, nice pool as a, uh, human shield to get the deadpool quarry and was like, um, you'll be all right, you got a healing gin, right? I'm like with Jen, I'm like, oh no. And that's when Wolverine was like you really are God's perfect idiot, which is a callback to Deadpool 1, to where in the uh, in the opening credits, you'll see that starring God's perfect idiot. So, yeah, that was a callback to that man. Oh, oh, yeah, there was also a callback to that man. Oh yeah, there was also a bunch of Wolverine variants Like Pat and oh the Wolverine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the one with the brown and yellow to the 5'3" the common accurate size Wolverine. That was the funniest one. The what was it the Age of Apocalypse? Accurate size Wolverine? That was the funniest one. The what was it the Age of Apocalypse? Version of Wolverine. There was even that one where he was like being crucified on that one. On the X yeah. When he had been tortured by the Ravagers or the Reavers. Yeah, you got it. Ravagers, well, reavers, okay, I think it was the Reavers.
Speaker 2:Reavers is you got it uh gravity well, reverse.
Speaker 1:Okay, I think it was a reverse in space. Reverse is you had it right.
Speaker 2:The second one uh, reverse okay, yeah, I love that um. I loved all of the the callbacks in this one. I also the cameo from the incredible hulk in the um. That was another cameo.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:I love that one. There were so many callbacks and cameos. We would be here all night trying to recap them. Yeah, go watch the movie, go watch it.
Speaker 1:if you haven't seen it yet, let's talk about that second fight to where I like how they were driving.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the car fight, where essentially they borrowed the Honda from nice pool, and there was this off the by the resistance. And Wolverine found out that a dip who was making an educated which that's a funny thing, that's what I'm going to call shit from now on Educated wish he was getting mad at Deadpool for making an educated wish and he just really read Deadpool to Phil talking about oh you, even you were dating a former stripper and she didn't even want to, and blah, blah, blah and all that shit just kind of ripped it into him. And then Deadpool was just sitting there for like a moment, right, and Wolverine was like, oh so you got nothing to say now. And the first thing he said I'm gonna fight you now. But now, now, pause, pause. Imagine if he wasn't wearing the mask and he was just looking at Wolverine, just straight face, not even smiling or anything, just staring at him. And then he's like, oh so you got nothing to say. It's like I'm going to fight you.
Speaker 2:That part was absolutely you knew you. You know you fucked up. When somebody gets that straight face and says, I'm gonna say, like the way he said it, there was no comedic tone in that at all and the fight was amazing. The fight showed off both of their healing factors to a tee and it was the fight that, it was the fight of the century, jesus Christ, that was such a bloody.
Speaker 1:It took place in the car the whole time.
Speaker 2:I'm just saying the ending of the fight, with Deadpool wrapped up in the seatbelt, logan essentially had to bondage this man to get him to stop. He was like just stop. At some point. I knew he was just like sit down, just stay there, I'm going to sleep, I'm done fighting you just later. Even better, what I loved about it is that they were both asleep. They had fought each other so hard to the point where they both passed out and didn't even realize that the car was moving just knocked out.
Speaker 2:They could have got kidnapped. We didn't even know who they got kidnapped by. Yeah didn't know nothing, who they got kidnapped by. Yeah, didn't know nothing, and they just sleep.
Speaker 1:It could have been any one of them, but well, at least they didn't try to kill us or anything. Well, not that they could try, but you know, I mean they could have, they could've tried Um. Oh, uh. Can I also mention how Deadpool's friend Peter, how he showed up During that whole Deadpool Car fight and he showed up In the Deadpool Uniform you know back in. Just keep in mind that he left his first uniform back in his own timeline and then you know.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:With the original uniform. But I thought it was funny how HunterB15 was like like you look damn good in that suit and I'm like really with the beer butt, with the um beer, belly and everything.
Speaker 2:Really, sometimes she needs attraction, honey.
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, I'm like, listen, I'm gonna be honest with you, I'm not even trying to cap. Funny enough, it's wild how There'll be some girls that I like but they're not really into me. But meanwhile, apparently, there'll be like a bunch of girls That'll be into me and I'm like completely oblivious to it. I'm like, really, what Huh? I mean it just kind of be like that. It's like, hey, man, nothing gets you personally, just more like I just wasn't feeling you like that, so I hope you find something better.
Speaker 2:Facts I low-key. Be the same way, though lowkey Like I'm not. I'm not good with like being aware Of someone who's interested in me. Usually my friends Point it out and I be like Are you sure? Nah?
Speaker 1:Nah, that happened to me once. Um, I'll tell you about it later. Um, off the record. But yeah, that happened to me once. But like now to a point to where it's gotta be like okay, we're hanging out just no, no, no.
Speaker 1:I would say it'll have to be like to a point to where we're just so busy, we're just so comfortable with each other, we're just assuming that we're friends, we're just hanging out so much to a point where we're just chilling with each other. Next thing, you know, we're looking at each other, next thing you know we're fucking each other. And I was like what are we?
Speaker 2:What are we? What are we? Wake up she's cooking breakfast? What are we Wake up she's cooking breakfast? What are we?
Speaker 1:She moved her stuff in. We are eating breakfast now.
Speaker 2:What are we Next? But, but, essentially, but, um, but essentially. Yeah, just to say I'm kind of the same way, like I'm also at a point where I'd rather, uh, I'll say that off the pod, I will say that.
Speaker 1:Hey, what can I say? One thing led to another.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's the kind of point where I'm at. I feel like it's the most natural that way.
Speaker 1:When you think about it, y'all so busy just enjoying each other's company, y'all don't really see, y'all weren't really thinking of each other like that Until just that spark to where I'm at In the heat of the moment, you just kind of feeling each other for the first time. He just went for it because, like, why the not like?
Speaker 2:y'all yup, that's pretty much. That's pretty much how I was, I I'm feeling right now. That's how I'm rocking right now.
Speaker 1:If it's like pretty much like in on tv and movies, where it's like, uh, you know, they're just like sitting on the couch with each other, you just talk about life and shit. It's like, um, they're just like so like a stream of consciousness, where the vibes were just so good that, uh, y'all just chilling to a point where y'all just look each other in the eyes and then pan to the lips and back up to the eyes and then fuck it, let's do it facts, but um, one thing about deadpool and wolverine that I want to talk about, because for the most part it was about how Paradox had to deal with Cassandra Nova To where She'll leave them alone as long as he leaves her alone.
Speaker 1:But he Violated those Rules and Pyro reported that back to Cassandra and he was like I don't think he cares. So Cassandra was like okay, that's how you feel, alright, so I'm just gonna go over to the TVA and blow everything up. So Deadpool and Wolverine gotta race to the TVA to stop Cassandra Nova from trying to fuck everything up. But you wanna know my theory time, mj theory time, mj theory time. Do you think Loki, the god of stories, might have something to do with Deadpool and Wolverine surviving their moment of sacrifice where they assumed they were going to die? But what if Loki, their Will to sacrifice themselves To save all the universes that they gave, that he gave them plot armor? Keep in mind, like you have to assume, that From this point forward, loki sees everything and he can manipulate time to a point where he can like oh shit, I don't want any of that to happen. So we got to make it to a way to where these guys save the day and all that.
Speaker 2:I think I like that theory, because when you, I also and this is just me, the theory, but I also would think that Loki would feel, because we also oh, that's a good point, because we also have a Deadpool and Thor moment in the beginning, like when the movie first starts, and is that Loki's way of saying, in a way? You're gonna matter, yeah, yeah like I'm gonna get to see my brother again, because that was the thing. That was also the promise that loki made right yeah to thor.
Speaker 2:But if he's gonna use deadpool to do it now, is that? Does he feel for Deadpool in a certain way, because Loki's never felt like he mattered?
Speaker 1:I mean, that was his whole art too to where he won um significance in his self, to where, like, he always felt like he was in the shadow of his brother and he wanted the throne, not just, um, for the hell of, uh, maniacal reasons, but because he wanted, like, some sort of sense of worth, some sense of self-worth. So that was kind of like how Loki wanted to matter. Deadpool also wanted to matter. So it was like you know what I feel for this guy, like I highly relate to this guy. I feel for this guy, I highly relate to this guy. And it's also crazy Because Deadpool has to. He's going to In the comics he's supposed to be part of the secret wars. So, who knows, he might end up being in secret wars and he might have his His moment there.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, yeah, I like that movie.
Speaker 1:Second theory, before I forget, they talked about an anchor being to where. Okay, you have this person to where. If this person dies in this universe, the whole thing gets fucked up. My whole thing was ever since WandaVision there was a possibility that there was going to be a thing called a Nexus being, and a Nexus being is kind of like an infinity stone as a person and there's only one person that's considered a Nexus being in any given universe. And in Earth 616, as far as at least the comics, the nexus being for Earth 616 is Scarlet Witch. Now hold on In Multiverse of Madness. She presumably died. So if Scarlet Witch is the nexus being or the MCU Way of saying an anchor being Is the same thing as a nexus being or the MCU way of saying an anchor being is the same thing as a nexus being, what if Scarlet Witch is that anchor being, which would imply she's still alive? Think about that.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna actually have to sit on that one.
Speaker 1:Because who? I mean? Come on like, I'm gonna be honest With you, uh, who else Could it be as far as the anchor being? Because it's like, uh, I'll be Almost disappointed if it was Like anyone else. Because, uh, scarlet Witch Is so powerful that she can literally uh, twist reality. Uh, she's powerful enough to twist reality. So I'm like I can't imagine her being strong enough to where she has to matter to an assistant. But it could. And also, keep in mind there's a easter egg in the fucking movie. Dead point will bring to where, where, where he meets up with the resistance and everything. There's a fucking statue of Scarlet Witch right there is Scarlet Witch?
Speaker 2:well, we know she's a nexus being right yeah like we know the anchor being can you be both?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that would be the theory.
Speaker 2:Like if Cause. That would Essentially make her Untethered to time. If she's the nexus being, but also the anchor being, then she's completely. She has complete control over time for herself, because that means she could make herself important as the anchor being like I have to be here, because that means she could make herself important right, as the anchor being, like I have to be here, which is what she essentially did in um with WandaVision. Right, she made herself the center and everyone had to stop what they were doing to go save wanda and convince wanda that what she was doing was wrong. Yeah, so did, but did she that's? I think that would be. My theory is did she make herself an anchor being? And she never truly was an anchor being ever, but she had. Since, because she's a nexus being, she replaced the actual anchor being there. Yeah, that's good, I don't know that's, but that's.
Speaker 1:I'd have to really sit on that, I think well, we're definitely gonna have to see how that plays out later on, because, like, that's a funny thing.
Speaker 1:To where, like, adding the idea of an anchor being to where, like, oh, this person died, the rest of the world dies, was always like, so you need to tell me that this universe was predetermined to be non-existent the moment this person is born and then dies, so everything led up to this person's life and death. Mmm, I almost don't like that. They included this into the MCU, but if they were saying like, okay, uh, the Nexus being well, excuse me, the anchor being is of such vital importance that, uh, they can't afford to lose this character, and I'm like, who could it be, though? Like, it has to be someone that is powerful enough to where, like, okay, I can, it makes sense for this person to be so important that, uh, they want this person to like stay alive and whatnot, and um, that's why I'm saying like, um, all the other people that we've seen it could be, but I just don't see as well as with Wanda, because the only reason why I say Wanda is because we know her as a Nexus being.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean I would have said Loki could have also been a Nexus being, but then again, with Loki now being like part of Yggdrasil, um, I would say Loki technically exists outside of normal space time, so he can't count. But he could be, but not for earth 616, not for the sacred timeline.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:Because also keep in mind that he wasn't even born in the sacred timeline. So, like the original Loki died back in um Right, Also keep in mind that he wasn't even born in the Sacred Timeline. The original Loki died back in Infinity War, Yup.
Speaker 2:I think you got me thinking, but I think I think we know she's the next being of 616. But could she have tried what did the other thing to have been? Could she have just tried to replace like what if she tried to make vision the anchor being? What if that's what she was doing in WandaVision?
Speaker 1:Oh, my god. Okay, if Vision is the anchor being, then that would probably make the whole Vision quest, or whatever they're going to call that series to where. Alright, he needs to stay alive by any means necessary, and okay, I guess we'll just have to see. Yeah.
Speaker 2:We'll just have to wait and see.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because it's like this one big mystery, because it's kind of eating at me at this point to where I'm like is there anything else about Deadpool and Wolverine that you want to talk about, mirajane, because I'm kind of running out of steam. For the most part, I think we've covered just about everything.
Speaker 2:I think we've covered everything. I'm about to take a nap.
Speaker 1:Well, of course, course, aside from you know, deadpool and Wolverine saved the day, logan and Laura, aka X-23, is allowed to be in Deadpool's world. Since, you know, the Fox universe no longer exists. They even made a big deal about it in the post credits, where you know the outtakes and whatnot. It was a beautiful moment to where I'm like, okay, uh, dedication to um, that they also included a 20 century fox logo at the end. You know, just um pay tribute to that. But um, outside of that, you know, uh, happy ending. Uh, deadpool got back with his friends, uh, alongside Logan and um Laura there, uh, they he kinda reconciled with Vanessa and that's it.
Speaker 1:That's the movie yeah, that is the movie, great movie oh uh, one more thing the fact that this Logan was the worst Logan because, oh, he abandoned the children. They want to say, oh, it was from the X-Men first trilogy, to where, oh yeah, he was the worst Logan, and I'm like I don't think he's coming from any of those. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. Was thinking too is like maybe like an alternate version to where? Like what if he abandoned everybody in those situations?
Speaker 1:like okay, I can see that, but I don't think he was the worst version of I mean, he was the same no, I'm sorry, I'm interrupting I'm like was he like the same guy in like all the movies Like I mean, aside from X-Men or Wolverine, that's like okay, no way, that's going to be canonical to everything, but uh, outside of that I'm like I didn't think he was that bad. Like, um, the movie itself might've made him look bad, but I don't think Wolverine or Hugh Jackman did bad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it has to be like an alternate.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's definitely an alternate. I don't. That would also not make a lot of sense with Logan, right, and we said we weren't touching Logan, which we know. We touched Logan, but we just confirmed that he was dead. You know what I mean? I think that's the only thing that we pretty much confirmed. But yeah, I don't know, there's no way that would be possible.
Speaker 2:He's definitely coming from an alternate timeline in which he didn't even put on the, in which he, because he didn't even put on the suit, which I think that that was. I'm sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, but I kind of fangirled the moment I saw him pull on the mask. I was like oh my god. I was like trying to clap as silently as possible because I didn't want to be that loud about it. I was loud, I was loud.
Speaker 2:I'm probably the worst person to go to the movies with.
Speaker 1:Nah, don't worry about it. I'm one of those I kind of talk to in the movies, but not like loud enough to where I'm disturbing everybody else. But if I'm like with a friend and I'm like I'll probably whisper to him and be like real quick about it and then for the most part I want everybody to enjoy the movie. But I look like I had something to say and then I'm done.
Speaker 2:If it's something like, if it's something like an avengers movie or a deadpool movie or any of those, I I want. Let's make this a party for everybody in here.
Speaker 1:I mean, I don't blame you. Like when we saw Endgame in theaters, everybody was fucking loud. When they saw Captain America wielding Mjolnir and all that, I was like oh shit.
Speaker 2:It was so amazing, I can't even lie but yeah, um, I'm done, I'm done.
Speaker 1:I'm good, I'm good, yep ladies and gentlemen, that will be it for this segment of the X-Men Extreme Review. The next one will be it for this segment of the X-Men Extreme Review. The next one will be the TV shows, where I will be talking about the OG series, the X-Men 97 and X-Men Evolution. I think there's one, I'm pretty sure there's others, but there's going to be like the main three for now. Oh yeah, I forgot there was the Gifted and Legion, but there's going to be like the main three for now. Oh yeah, I forgot there was the Gifted and Legion. I'm going to check those out. You know, they're not really part of, but it's an X-Men, x-men interview, so I'm going to give them a chance.
Speaker 1:But this one I don't know Like I don't know exactly when it's gonna come out, because this one's gonna take longer than the others. Uh, but I will work on it and until then, just stay faithful with me, nerds. Uh, stay nerdy. Remember that great things are coming and we're gonna go ahead and zone out of here. So, until the next part of the x-men stream review, go ahead and take it easy. Have a good morning, good afternoon and good night.
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