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The Road to El Dorado: A Journey Through Animation, History, and Cult Classics
What if an animated adventure could captivate both children and adults alike, while sparking conversations about historical representation and character dynamics? Join us for an enthralling journey through DreamWorks' "The Road to El Dorado," where we break down the film's plot and vibrant cast of characters including the charismatic Miguel and Tulio. We'll shed light on the creative genius of screenwriters Terry Rocio and Ted Elliott, and how Elton John's narration adds a magical touch to this tale. We'll also address the initial mixed reviews and the later controversies, drawing intriguing comparisons with other animated classics like "Aladdin" and "Pocahontas."
Let's venture into the realm of animated films that have transcended their initial commercial failures to become beloved cult classics. We'll discuss "The Road to El Dorado" alongside gems like "The Nightmare Before Christmas" and "Treasure Planet," examining how modern media has breathed new life into these stories. With humorous anecdotes about fan-favorite character Shell and discussions on how platforms like "Ready Player One" and "Kingdom Hearts" have reignited interest, this episode promises a fun and nostalgic exploration.
Finally, we delve into the nuanced relationships and moral complexities within "The Road to El Dorado." From Tulio's moral quandaries to the priest's vengeful schemes, we'll explore the pivotal moments that keep the narrative gripping. We’ll also celebrate the lasting legacy of DreamWorks' character design and Elton John's unforgettable soundtrack, reflecting on how these elements create a timeless, family-friendly adventure. Tune in for an episode filled with both nostalgia and thought-provoking insights into one of DreamWorks' underrated treasures.
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All right, hey, what's good everybody. This is Kokugasu and Professor Tuck, the baby mama, lord what up dog.
Speaker 1:Today we are talking about the Road to El Dorado. This is an old movie that came out back in 2000, made by DreamWorks Pictures, and it's one of those sleeping goats. However, it definitely also caused some controversy when people finally got a chance to watch it 10 years later. So some controversy started by like pretty much around 2010 about it, based on a lot of the portrayals. So we'll go ahead and talk a little bit about it first.
Speaker 1:The road to el dorado is a very simple story where we got two spanish characters, miguel and tulio, first off mentioned that there is no spanish spoken in this entire movie, considering the fact is a very simple story where we got two Spanish characters, Miguel and Tulio, first off mentioned that there is no Spanish spoken in this entire movie, considering the fact that they're from España. So let's go ahead and point that out. This movie did not get the best ratings roughly about half or just above average rating for a lot of other, for a lot of the rating companies Mostly began because the portrayals. They didn't expect people to really like it and surprisingly, a lot of people did still like it, though I liked it. It was pretty. I thought it was pretty cool once you get past some of the racist situations onto it.
Speaker 2:So oh yeah, that's the fact yeah, definitely so.
Speaker 1:let's go ahead with the road to el dorado. We go ahead and start with our two characters, miguel and Tulio, who are just some gamblers. They have no jobs. What they do is they go around and just start scamming people for money. They use loaded dice, they use all types of tricks to steal to get what they want. You could probably think of Aladdin. Yeah, I would probably say from Aladdin yeah.
Speaker 1:I would probably say from yeah, where Aladdin was like kind of doing whatever you could to steal bread and stuff like that. So they wound up switching over and going to. They're running away and they get caught in a boat. And once they get caught in the boat, then they wound up getting trapped inside of a barrel of wine. Well, a barrel of water, not even wine. They get trapped in a barrel of water and are stuck and now they're being shipped off to the new world Pocahontas style. So I know you said that Before we head off on top. Do you have anything that you remember about this show, a little bit about this movie, a little bit with Miguel Antigua from that beginning point that I told you about?
Speaker 2:I thought it was ironic that you mentioned Aladdin, because the screenwriters Terry Rocio and Ted Elliott they wrote Shrek, pirates of the Caribbean, the Master Zorro and they co-wrote Aladdin.
Speaker 1:I definitely didn't know that that's pretty cool. Yeah, I definitely didn't know that it's interesting information though. It is. It is Okay, that's what's up. Look at them, go ahead and date. I mean, yeah, that makes sense, okay, but yeah, so it definitely has a feel very similar to a lot of that. So I can understand why a lot of people wound up, you know, really liking the movie when they finally watched it.
Speaker 2:Okay no, yeah, not to mention that the background, the narrator, is elton john. Yep, yep.
Speaker 1:Can't mention that. I mean honestly, if I had anyone that was going to narrate anything for me Elton John and Denzel Washington.
Speaker 2:Who else? Yeah, samuel L Jackson, samuel, definitely Samuel.
Speaker 1:L Jackson.
Speaker 2:You gotta say some curse words in the background.
Speaker 1:Morgan Freeman.
Speaker 2:For sure it's the voice. I know his name Morpheus. Like I don't know his name, I can't even remember right now.
Speaker 1:Watch how this works as soon as you ask. That's how we forget it. If we remember Before you asked, I probably would have knew what the answer was. It's your fault.
Speaker 2:I know right.
Speaker 1:Back to the road to El Dorado. So, miguel and Tuneo.
Speaker 2:Lawrence Fishburne.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:But Miguel and.
Speaker 1:Tuneo, what, oh yeah. But Miguel and Julio, what winds up happening is that they get trapped in a boat. They get shipped off to the new world. So they go to the Americas, but they go to a very different part of the Americas. Unlike Pocahontas, where they went to North America, they wind up going to South America. Well, one of the places there, they went really to middle America, let's be honest on today, central Central America, yeah, where they were supposed to be going to Cuba, and what happened was that they got caught up on the ship with Cortez, the famous explorer who was known for his violence and slavery.
Speaker 1:Now, we don't get to see a lot of Cortez inside of the show. We don't get to see a lot of Cortez. That's something that he is known for in history is his violence and slavery for raping people A lot of bad stuff. Slavery for raping people A lot of bad stuff. I think they made the smart decision of being like no, we're not going to make a story about him, unlike with Pocahontas, where they put Jon Stewart and they completely changed Jon Stewart's character. Jon Stewart actually was the one who did all that nasty, evil stuff in history. We're just going to completely ignore him.
Speaker 1:We're going to add two new characters and just kind of base the story onto that. But you're going to notice as we go through the story when you watch the movie, there is a lot of similarities between the Road to El Dorado and Pocahontas, like a lot of similarities here. So what winds up happening is that Miguel and Tulio they finally managed to get unstuck from their barrel and find themselves trapped in the brig because they were in the middle of the ocean and they had no idea where they were. So, due to a short little escape attempt, due to trying to get to Cortez's horse in order to be able to try to get them, get the horse, to get them the keys so they could get out, they wound up falling off the ship onto an escape boat with the horse and they wound up barely surviving life of pie style, barely surviving the trip all the way we managed to get to Cuba and somehow Rest in peace.
Speaker 2:Richard Parker.
Speaker 1:Right, and somehow or another they get to Cuba before Cortez and his ship. How that happened, there's really no explanation. They just do based on the storm. So it's like, okay, they made it there.
Speaker 2:Plot on?
Speaker 1:Yeah, pretty much. So they wound up making it to the beach. They wound up making it there to Little America, where they've managed to snag a map that said they could find. The treasure to.
Speaker 1:The road of el dorado was one of the map is something they got from gambling. They wound up stealing it per se? Um from a guy, and so they're like, yo well, we seem to be here. This looks like we're in the right spot. Let's go ahead and see if we can adventure.
Speaker 1:So they wind up going through an adventure, going through the forest, seeing all types of crazy animals, and this is just a montage which I will say if, if this was made by disney, this would probably be a series. It probably would try to do like a series or something, where they had them actually go through the forest and all the shit that they experienced to be able to get there. So, and eventually they finally follow through the map they experienced to be able to get there. So, and eventually they finally follow through the map, they go through the montage to get to the map, to the destination where they finally found where El Dorado is supposed to be, which is a giant rock in front of a waterfall and it pretty much seems like a dead end. And then is when we finally meet Tuck's other baby, mama Chell, now Tuck's other baby mama Shell.
Speaker 2:Now she is definitely a baby mama. I ain't gonna lie to you.
Speaker 1:Like there's no question, like when people cosplay Shell. That's a Matter of fact, just a quick story. This is funny. So at one of my old jobs that I had I used to I came up with an idea to be like like motivating for people using my skills I love to draw and stuff so I would draw various different pictures on the whiteboards for people when they would walk into work. So I had one. Dad drew a code named Kids Next Door. Another day, johnny Bravo, courage to Cali Doll.
Speaker 1:I started off with old school cartoon styles and stuff and so I wound up having to change it up. The reason I wound up changing it up was because I got in trouble because I decided to draw a shell from the Rotel Dorado on the whiteboard and apparently people were so upset because also keep in mind this movie at the time still did not get a lot of views. A lot of people still have not seen the movie. They may have heard of it but never saw it. So I drew Shell and immediately got in trouble because they were like Jeremy, why did you draw a half-naked lady on the wall? It's like that's Shell. You've never seen the movie. I told my manager about it. I said no, literally, look it up, look up the Road to El Dorado. It's a cartoon for kids, it's a movie for kids and they're like what? And they looked it up and they saw it and they were just like oh it is.
Speaker 2:Maybe just not that picture.
Speaker 1:Because it was a bomb yeah.
Speaker 2:It was a bomb when they re-released it. That's how it became like a cult classic, because a lot of stuff bombed like the Nightmare Before Christmas.
Speaker 1:That was a bomb but it's a bop the Iron Giant bomb but it's an extreme bop the Iron Giant only is getting more love now because of multiverses which, funny enough, is supposed to be coming back. They've already released out the newest stuff that's coming back for it.
Speaker 2:Shout out to Ready Player One, though.
Speaker 1:Ready Player One definitely did.
Speaker 2:When they popped that out.
Speaker 1:I still haven't seen the movie Ready Player One, but I've seen the iron giant. I saw that clip with iron giant in there so I was just like okay. So I was like so people know, they're like yo, you don't know what this movie, but you need to know what this movie. My kids know the movie. Now. I went and found it.
Speaker 1:I actually got it, oh yeah, at walmart yeah, that's the fact actually, funny enough, rode to el dorado's also been in walmart too, so you can get some of these cold classes. Yeah, you get these cold classes for cheap, though, so yeah, um and treasure planet too.
Speaker 1:That was a, that was bomb, yeah but treasure planet is not in the five dollar bin they found. Uh, disney realized that popularity so they did like a not a re-release onto it. But a lot of people started talking about it. With the new kingdom hearts it was like we need to have treasure planet. But I was like that, not a re-release onto it. But a lot of people started talking about it. With the New Kingdom Hearts it was like we need to have Treasure Planet. But I was like that's not really a Disney, but Disney bought rights to be able to like, kind of show it. It's not on Disney Plus, but they still want to give you some rights to it, so you can still find it. But it's not in a $5 bin. You probably pay like $ to a dollar for it, so a little bit more, but it's worth it. It's very much well worth it. I would say even check. Maybe your local library might have a copy that you can rent. Just try that out too. Um, but yeah, so literally wrote el dorado.
Speaker 1:We wind up having shell show up. She comes out the waterfall and she has gold in her hands. Where it is that she is trying to escape the village that she's in? She doesn't want to be there anymore and you kind of question why is it that she no longer wants to be there? And it's this is where kind of the first controversy comes in. She doesn't want to be there anymore because it's too peaceful. They don't really explain that, but you kind of see it throughout the, throughout the show. It's too peaceful. But she also doesn't fully agree with the, with the religion. Now that I can understand. You know you disagree with, kind of like, how religious views are in certain places. Maybe you kind of have to switch up, whatever the case may be. But, um, yeah, so she winds up, she's trying to leave. She barely managed to escape and she wound up running straight into Miguel and Tulio and she sees them on top of the horse and looks onto the giant slab stone rock that they were looking at. That was at the end of the map, and she mistakes them for being like the gods that were on there. Well, no, she doesn't, sorry. She gets chased after by some of the um soldiers and they mistake Miguel and Tulio from being the gods that have returned to bring them there.
Speaker 1:And then here's where all the bullshit starts coming into play. So, once they finally find their way to actually El Dorado. What you find out is the village is the city behind the waterfall. What happens is that it's literally the city of gold. Everything is pretty much made out of gold. They have tons of gold there. To them, it's not just a sacred treasure, it's just a regular occurrence for them, in fact, so much so that they want to send a sacrifice or offering to Shibalba, which is the giant waterfall of death that sends people to the afterlife. They just dump the gold down in there, and that's why it is apparently that you will find random gold stuff scattered throughout the island, because it would go down this waterfall and just shoot out in a random spot, not this giant whirlpool, anyway. Why is it being a plot point for later on? The dying whirlpool anyway. Why is it being a plot point for later on?
Speaker 1:But we get an opportunity to meet the chief, who is the head of the entire kingdom of el dorado, um, the entire city. She is the one who keeps everyone on track, kind of keeps the peace and things. But we also get to meet the high priest as well, and the high priest is one who has the best, the closest connection to the gods. He is our magic user and he is off the wall crazy. So each of the chief and the priest wound up having a competition to see who it is that can please the gods. More Meanwhile, miguel and Tulio are just trying not to die because they're just sitting here like hey, they think that we're gods and I'm afraid that they find out that we're human. We're going to die because they're just sitting here like hey, they think that we're gods and I'm afraid that if they find out that we're human, we're going to die. So they wound up doing various different stuff. They wound up playing a game.
Speaker 2:That sounds about right, huh, they wound up playing a game that sounds about right.
Speaker 1:They wound up playing a game with the ball and the hoop where they have to hit the ball with their hip and have to hit it through the hoop. And so it winds up happening by mistake, because literally, tulio is just sitting here just kind of chilling out a little bit, and he winds up seeing the kids play the game. He's like, oh, I'm going to play with them, it looks fun. Then the priest comes along. This is not how the gods play ball. This is how the gods play ball. And then wound up having them play against the strongest team of players that they have in the city and they were getting trashed horribly Like they had no idea how to play.
Speaker 2:And this is where Shell comes in, I would have been like yo. I would have been like y'all, been playing the wrong all this time. That's not how I like it.
Speaker 1:Exactly, I made it so easy for myself.
Speaker 2:You're going to tell me how I'm supposed to play. I would have made up rules like no guys get to go three times.
Speaker 1:Right, that's not how that works. Either way, they was losing so horribly. Michelle came in clutch with her little armadillo friend and the armadillo wound up pretending to be the ball, wound up cheating like a motherfucker, just ball hopping back and forth through the hoop like 7-8 times while they started racking up points and points out of nowhere and then finally managed to get the final point.
Speaker 2:They failed to win.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, they finally managed to get the point at the very end by sheer luck, because the Armadillo wound up getting switched out for a real ball by mistake, but by plot armor they managed to properly get an actual hit. The ball goes through the hoop and then they win. And then the priest is like all right, well, since they lost, per rules they all gotta die. Now you're like wait what? And this is where things start becoming problematic, because tulio and miguel both are very much against sacrifice. They don't believe in human sacrifice. That's not a thing for them, and the chief has been trying to get people away from that because they think there's other ways to please the gods other than human sacrifice, which we can all agree on. To that right, yeah. So literally it's like there's other ways. We can kind of do stuff.
Speaker 2:I don't know First born sons and stuff, I don't know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean keep in mind, like in Egypt it was so like, yeah, this one was crazy, what was?
Speaker 2:it, it was ready to sacrifice. Just throw them in the volcanoes. The volcano won't erupt because the volcano gods want to sacrifice.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, I don't think it's just timing. A lot of cultures that have volcanoes. It's like, oh, you have to send the virgin princess and the virgin has to go in. If they're not a virgin, we know it's not because we all died, because everything erupted. I was like, oh yeah, that was a virgin. We were good. Now I'm like that's not how that works.
Speaker 1:It's one of those ones we're so happy that some were taking over stuff versus religion, because it's like some beliefs was very questionable. So that's the priest. The priest definitely has his whole thing about the religion. He's like this is how we're going to satisfy the guys is by doing a sacrifice, and that's just what he thinks is the best thing to do. So he had two points into it the one with the ball game and he had another one after the whole, speaking of volcano.
Speaker 1:That was probably one of the funniest scenes, where Miguel and Tulio were sitting here having an argument with each other about yo, we're going to die. We have to figure out how to convince them that we're guys. And like what are you talking about? It's like this is not how we're supposed to do things. And you're about to die. And as they're arguing back and forth, the volcano seemed like it's about to erupt and then Miguel just yells out shut up, stop. And then the volcano just stops and at that moment everyone's like yes, they have to be gods, they have to be. And it's like a series of coincidences. These kids, these two, have like the best luck possible.
Speaker 2:Yeah yeah, I am a god Exactly. It's like, um, like the animation of yeah, yeah, I am a god Exactly.
Speaker 1:It's like Like the animation With the main character, and literally by just the skin of his teeth he's always managed to survive Every fucking hit.
Speaker 2:One HP, which is one HP Every time. Boy, I better luck than Kirito.
Speaker 1:Right, Just out of nowhere, Just like how the fuck bro Plot armor just got you, but literally so.
Speaker 2:The power of friendship.
Speaker 1:Don't do that.
Speaker 2:Talk no jutsu.
Speaker 1:Talk, no jutsu. So yeah, so they had those two moments, one with the ball game game and then one after that moment they were trying to make. The chief and the priest both had two different sacrifices, had two different parties that they wanted to throw, and so they obviously favored the chief's party more because they got gold, as much gold as they wanted, and everyone had a party, a good time and everybody had a big feast. So it's like I mean, which one you gonna choose, bro, that's what we got. So it was pretty straightforward how things go.
Speaker 1:But the priest was very upset. After he was kind of told pretty much, tulio told him off and said nah, bro, you got to go. We're done with this. We're no more doing sacrifices anymore. This is not the thing. The whole city cheered yay, no more sacrifices anymore. But the priest was so upset because that was what kept him in power. That whole killing of people is why he had strength and had like amongst everything. So one of the problems now Miguel and Tulio are having a fight again because Miguel is ready to go back to Spain. However, tulio wants to stay and still be a god or rule as king.
Speaker 2:Bruh.
Speaker 1:The blonde-haired dude wants to stay and be the king.
Speaker 2:Why you ahead, bud, why you ahead?
Speaker 1:I mean, and I get that you know the people on the head thing, but it's like come on.
Speaker 2:But one of the things is why we actually appreciate it. He was one of the reasons why, when they're gambling, they're going to lose bro you up $10,000. Why you want to play again and bet it off.
Speaker 1:Exactly, exactly. So, literally, tulio decided to go ahead and wanted to stay. But the but the chief was one of my favorite characters because the chief, she knew instantly that they were not. She was like yeah, y'all some normal humans. Um, I already knew what you were, but the thing about it is is the fact that, like, the people were happy, so I was just, and they gave us an excuse to throw a festival and everybody was happy.
Speaker 1:And on top of that, you got that priest dude out the way too. He's been killing people left and right, saying it's for the gods and I can. It was just so aggravating, but you got rid of him. Y'all some, y'all my dogs, bro, we good now, we all good. So the chief was like, yeah, he's like, I'm with it. If you choose to stay, you choose to stay. If you choose to leave, you choose to leave. That's entirely up to you. So, but I appreciate how the chief was nonchalant about it. You know, okay, the gods want to ascend back to heaven. Wink, wink. Or do you want to stay? It's like we appreciate.
Speaker 1:If you stay, you make everybody see no reason for you not to stay, but then at the same time, if you're going to go, that's up to you. I mean, this is my city, I can still really nice.
Speaker 2:I've been like, nah, they wouldn't have had to have me. I would have been like I was like, hey look, I'm finna, ascend back to the heavens. But before I go, I wanna, I wanna, leave y'all with a blessing. Nah, I need 10% of all your bad bitches. Ten percent Every year. I need you to ten percent of these bad bitches in a wagon down south. Y'all need to go to Georgia and you need to live with my living legend. He may look exactly like me, but he's my human vestige on earth. I can't wish. Every ten years, I need you to send more bad bitches. I can't wish. And then he will be known as the baby mama lord.
Speaker 1:You know, even though this is not a kid podcast, at the same time, like I, was trying to be good at some stuff, you're unhinged Ain't shell enough we making this after dark. Shell left with him. Is shell enough for you? Nope.
Speaker 2:I need 10%, 10% Every 10 years.
Speaker 1:I can't, I cannot Either way. They wound up. They wound up sending the priest away. And so the priest he's very frustrated, he's upset, and so he decides that I'm gonna go ahead and just enact my revenge. They're not gods, I know for a fact. They're humans, because they bleed. Because during the ball game he happened to see Tulio had a cut on his cheek and was bleeding. So he was like, yeah, nah, they're not gods. Gods don't bleed. That's not how that works, yeah. I want to be all observant.
Speaker 1:I mean the truth is how you know guys, don't bleed.
Speaker 2:Man Ain't never seen, ain't even seen no guy before.
Speaker 1:True, I mean definitely not like the, definitely not guys from God of War. Them guys bleed, Play them games. You know them guys bleed.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, they bleed for sure. Well, Kratos gonna make something bleed.
Speaker 1:They gonna bleed black, green, blue, Whatever the case may be green, blue, whatever the case may be, they bleed. Bugs, I guess, Reminded me of that one. But yeah, the priest said to him the gods don't bleed. So he decides to get revenge and he decides to use his magic to call forth a giant demonic panther. Well, you could say demonic, but spiritual panther. Really I feel bad saying that. I mean, I say that because it wasn't necessarily demonic, but it was like the panther was their god of death per se.
Speaker 1:So he decided to bring forth the Black Panther as their god of death to go ahead and enact revenge against them and go ahead and pretty much seize power and control again, because before it was like y'all think that I'm playing around, I got, I got this shit, I got this. So he winds up attacking and by just again, sheer plot, plot, armor, they managed to get him to attack him at the uh Shibaoba, at the giant whirlpool, where they managed to get him to go all the way down. He winds up falling off of the cliff breaks In some classic Disney style Even though it's not a Disney movie, still classic Disney style and he winds up falling down into the whirlpool when everyone assumes that he's dead. They find out no, he's not dead, but he actually is met with a fate worse than death. He winds up going down the whirlpool he actually survives and winds up going straight out, just outside the entrance of El Dorado, right before the waterfall. So he winds up running into Cortez. And so now, yeah, cortez, pretty much caught up by this point, he had already met the beach, he had followed their footprints and he didn't need a map because Timon and Tulio left a pretty good trail to find them. They're not really good explorers like that, so he wound up on the trail and wound up meeting the priest. The priest says I can take you to El Dorado, where there's gold at, because Cortez knows the gold earrings that he was wearing.
Speaker 1:But as he's trying to go ahead and go back, they wound up facing another situation. What winds up happening is is that mcgill is still trying to leave. However, there is a big problem as they're trying to leave and take the they wanted to take a big ship of gold with them to leave they run into an issue where they find out that cortez is actually still alive. So, because they found out cortez is still alive, uh, one of the scouts that was around pretty much came back and told him it's like yo, we got to find a way to stop because not cortez. The priest is still alive. They're like he's with cortez. They're like yo, if cortez here, all y'all gonna die. There's no way for y'all to survive. It's not gonna happen.
Speaker 1:So what winds up happening is that Cortez winds up following the priest all the way there. Miguel and Tulio enact a plan to go ahead and use the ship of gold to crash down the pillars and forever seal the city of El Dorado, seal the entrance, so that way Cortez can get there and kill everyone. It does wind up, causing them a big sacrifice. They're not able to leave with anywhere near as much gold as they wanted to. They don't have this shit of gold either. But Miguel Tulio and Shell wind up leaving, and then they wind up just, I guess, living happily ever after. I don't know, I don't even know how the hell they would have even gotten back to Spain. There's no part two. That's just how the movie ends. Now, before we dive into controversy, is there anything that you wanted to say? Really quick, the whole ending.
Speaker 2:they left with gold, bro. They left with gold that they didn't have, Just not as much as they wanted. A win is a win. A win is a freaking win. A win is a win.
Speaker 1:This is true.
Speaker 2:We got to be gods for a little bit.
Speaker 1:Oh, you know, Miguel got to have a moment with shell for a little bit too. That part julio was just like he's upset, walks away. Miguel's like I don't know how he's gonna do this. He's about to ruin everything for himself, but I'm not gonna go down with him, no more. I'm not doing this, no more. I got my goal time to leave's like yeah, just make sure you take me with you. And he's like but what you mean? She mean take me with you. And they had a little moment.
Speaker 2:When I tell you wherever she goes she one of the baddest in the city Everybody gonna be like dang. Who is that? You're wrong.
Speaker 1:You're not wrong. We got a chance to meet, like everybody, we got a chance to see a lot of different people in the city of El Dorado. Chell was the one that, like they, spent extra time animating her.
Speaker 2:It's on purpose, that's a fact, chell is considered DreamWorks most inappropriate female character design yes, I would argue and say it's the most appropriate. I was like I drew something that's appropriate to me. Them same animators that wrote that drew for El Dorado, that drew Shell, they drew Miss, they drew Mrs Incredible Yep, they had to. They drew the mama from Dexter's Laboratory. Yeah, yeah, yeah, they drew her. Pretty much every voluptuous character you can think of. I know it's the same animator. They just kept getting fired and going to another site. Oh what?
Speaker 1:The Aunt from Big Hero Sand 2?.
Speaker 2:Oh, for sure.
Speaker 1:Tadashi is here. Oh my God man, no man, big Hero 6 need to be.
Speaker 2:They need to make a remake or a sequel.
Speaker 1:That'd be dope. There's a TV series. It's on Disney+, is it? Is it? Yeah, it's a sequel, that'd be dope. There's a TV series it's on. Disney+ Is it? Is it? Yeah, it's a continuation. Oh, y'all need to check that out Every now and again. They show it on Disney on regular cable box, but you have to go to Disney Plus to really watch it. I just thought it was so good.
Speaker 2:But you know what else is really good on this? The soundtrack.
Speaker 1:Bro Look the good. But you know what else is really good on this? The soundtrack, bro look. The soundtrack was glorious. On this, man, you can't man chef's kiss, just wow, so right.
Speaker 2:I don't remember a lot from the movie, but the soundtrack was dope people, um, listen to the soundtrack more than they watch the movie.
Speaker 1:Honestly, so like.
Speaker 2:Elton John with that piano on fire it was something slight. You don't need to be making stuff like this. It's just a song about gorillas. Nevermind, let me just finesse some stuff. It's about gold. Hold on, stay with me, gold bad bitches. Hold on, let me get this piano out. Oh right, it's great and it's considered a classic.
Speaker 1:Come to think of it, I don't think anything that he's been on hasn't been considered a classic. Right To be honest with you, right, you want to make your movie a classic. Wellton John on that, like you, are a golden saint. Oh, he was like hey this.
Speaker 2:We don't need nothing too fancy, nothing too simple. Alright, cool, cool, cool.
Speaker 1:Next thing, you know, your soundtrack went diamond yeah, now let's go ahead and talk really quick about the controversy, because we don't have entirely too much more to really have to talk about with this show, with this movie. Right, I already went through the whole plot. The plot was very short, very simple. It was enjoyable to watch. It wasn't nothing too complicated, which is one of the reasons I thought it was really good for a kids movie, because it's just straightforward to the point. They get trapped on the ship, land into an area and they're like hey, we have a map, let's go see what's going on. They go there, they have a series of lucky events swear, they was rolling like high numbers, like 17, 20 on that d20 you met a series of unfortunate events I don't Ain't nothing been unfortunate out of that.
Speaker 1:I mean, let's look.
Speaker 2:A series of unfortunate events. You get it. You get it. The movie, the TV series. Yes, I do Shout out to Jim Carrey.
Speaker 1:Good Lord Almighty, and then Neil Patrick Harris, lemony's naked man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I did like show Neil Patrick Harris, he great and everything that's on that too um, but I mean I can't like this one, I mean these two dudes.
Speaker 1:They come in.
Speaker 2:That left broke, came back with gold and a girl like yeah bro, I would have kept the girl and just a piece of the gold. Man, you can get the gold. Let me get up. Yep, I don't know. I've been walking around like don't talk to my wife, bro. She don't know how to speak English or Spanish. Spanish, she's talking clicks.
Speaker 1:The thing about the two is that they all, surprisingly, knew how to understand each other except Cortez. Nobody could understand Cortez, so they purposely did not have him really speak like that. But Miguel and Tulio was able to easily pick up the language or they knew Spanish somehow, which pretty much led to the belief that there obviously was from the previous people who came by and must have taught them. There's some type of understanding into that, but there's nothing really told into that.
Speaker 2:It's not historically accurate too, because they would have not been able to speak the same dialect.
Speaker 1:It's definitely not Like Tekken. You know how everyone speaks their own language and somehow another can all talk to each other like it's nothing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like the Sims.
Speaker 1:Like the Sims. Yeah, everyone speaks Simish, no matter what it is. Go to China, they still speak Simish. It's the same language, but some of the controversy still.
Speaker 1:El Dorado is also the betrayal for the indigenous people there, the natives particularly being racist with each other. So Chelle gets picked out because in fact she doesn't also agree with the religious view. So there's a thing into that um poking at their with their customs and religions, and then also the fact that the priest winds up being much more dangerous, as far as it's portrayed, than cortez. Um, cortez winds up supposedly being the main person. That's like oh, oh, if he shows up, everyone's going to die.
Speaker 1:We got to prevent him from showing up and stuff, and they were able to successfully prevent him from showing up, but in doing so it winds up making it to where everything evil was just portrayed only by just the indigenous people there, and so some people wound up having some issues with that because it was like no with historical accuracy, and I'm like first off, kids, kids movies not going to be historically accurate. Pocahontas is nowhere near historically accurate. If you don't know, pocahontas was not known to be a very beautiful maiden, that's just historically true. You can see pictures that was actually drawn of people, of um that they still kept around, and documents from people during that time period. She looked like a booty hole.
Speaker 1:I didn't say all that Now, don't be doing that, don't be doing that. But it wound up being that point of to where it's like there's not going to be historically accurate for kids' movies. That's just not what it is. It's just supposed to be something of a time period to kind of like just make something interesting for kids. That's just what it's supposed to be, but so it won't be.
Speaker 2:That's what really drove the plot. It's very simple, easy to follow, you know, nothing too complicated.
Speaker 1:Exactly. But yeah, it definitely drove a lot of controversy, um, with how things went, the portrayal of gold, um, everything always being about gold except. And then, even when miguel and tulio's there, miguel's mind never shook from getting gold and leaving. Even amongst exploring the religion, we wound up getting tulio, who's like I don't really care about the gold, I love the people here, I love the culture here, I love how everything is here and that's why I wanted to stay, versus miguel being like, bro, let's just get the gold and leave, fuck that. Bro, get the money and let's bounce. It ain't worth it, nothing else, type of thing. And it was like we got one of getting the portrayal where it's like, and, of course, the person who wants to stay is the blonde hair, blue eyed person, of course, type of thing.
Speaker 1:So it's like, if you really want to dive into it, yeah, the movie is racist in its own aspect, but then, at the same time, it's it was never made to dive that deep into. It was supposed to just be. This is a simple story. This is just something for family and kids to watch, and that's just what it is. But because of the fact of how much people rather diving into it. It bombed horribly at the time. It didn't really have. It actually had a really good uh presentation. As far as, like, um, a good trailer. I remember being a kid and watching the trailer for the movie and I was like, oh, that looks actually really interesting. I never went to go watch in theaters because I just didn't have the money for it, but I went back when we had the dollar theater, you know when you were able to get that 99 cent.
Speaker 2:Shout out to them 99, $2.99 on weekday.
Speaker 1:Yeah, man, I miss when it was $1.99 on weekday. It just creates up the price of everything. Oh yeah it was $2.99.
Speaker 1:it was $2.99, but yeah so, but yeah, no, that's when I went to go see. It was back at the dollar theater and stuff and I loved it. It was a great movie. I had bought the DVD a while, like years ago, after I moved a couple times. I don't have it no more, but like I had the movie it was.
Speaker 1:It's a really good movie to watch. It's not something for you to really dive into, like just look at it in the simplest regard, into it, because that's all it's supposed to be and then it's a great movie. It's good to watch, it's fun to watch simple story and then we're just good to go on to that. Um, some people probably might also complain saying that the movie was too the humor and dynamics were just too dry and sarcastic for children. Again, it was a family movie. It's a family movie, so the kids are not going to get every single joke. It's not supposed to be. The kids get every single joke. It's supposed to be for family. So some of the adults will get some stuff too and be like really, really and then just kind of move forward. No, something to keep your interest into it. That's what I like about family movies. You have stuff that kids can enjoy, kids will like. And then every now and again you get a moment that's like oh well, hold on a second, this is something that the uh, the adults are like yo wait, they put that in the movie. Oh okay. And then we're able to go back now like these are movies that we watched when we were kids. And then we go back and watch it now as an adult.
Speaker 1:You know, as a kid I knew there was something that seemed a bit off in that scene with Miguel and Chell. I didn't really. I was like something seemed a bit off On to that one Because that movie came out. How old was I? Like seven, yeah, I was like seven when that movie came out. So, like, and then go back and watch it as I got older, I'm just like, oh, they was fucking. Yeah, that's what was going on, okay, Now, I know.
Speaker 1:Austin Powell style. So, yeah, I mean, in the end it's just like. Yeah, like you said, it went from failure to a cult classic. Like it took 20 years. When they finally did a re-release onto it, people was like you know what? It wasn't anywhere near as bad as people really pointed out to be. No, because movie critics dive heavy into stuff Like it's expected that every single movie is supposed to be on some Shakespearean level, on some Kendrick Lamar level, double, double entendre, triple entendres and stuff. Not everything is like that. You know the stuff that says for kids, it's for kids, like that's just what it is. It's not the prince of evil, it's not that, but it doesn't mean that it's not a good movie. So just one of those things like it's a really cool movie that I watched as a kid. I enjoyed it and just kind of like, just watch it for what it is.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I understand that too, and it had a lot of quotables too. I almost did. They were funny characters. They were definitely funny characters, it didn't have as many quotables as Shrek, but it was pretty great.
Speaker 1:I can give you some of the quotables as very similar to Pirates of the Caribbean, We'll follow that trail Because I swear to God, anytime you think of that, you be sitting here like that sounds like something that Captain Jack Sparrow would say. It does sound like something Captain Jack Sparrow would say. But no, that's something that Miguel said in the road to El Dorado. No, Tulio said in El Dorado. It was like we'll follow that trail, We'll follow that trail. After he cut down the tree, cut down the branches and the vines you know why I'm just being a big rock underneath you he's like okay, we'll go over there to that one. So yeah, so I mean, we got some stuff that you can quote. We got some pretty fun stuff that you can quote. We got some pretty fun stuff that you may have into the movie. So, yeah, it's just a great movie to watch. Or you can just be like Tuck and just go back and watch all the scenes for Shell If you want to. There is a person on YouTube that already did it. It took every single scene with Shell in it and they just did a compilation of just Shell and Road to El Dorado. You can find it on YouTube and you can just see everything that she's in and that's it. Should you choose to do that or something, it's up to you. Yeah, but otherwise I don't think I have too much else to say into the movie To me.
Speaker 1:I really like the movie. I think we wound up switching out the grading system from numbers to letters. Now I mean, to me this is a great b plus movie, like again, it's not something you're supposed to dive into, it's a movie to enjoy and it's good enough to where I will go back and watch it again. I watch it with my kids. You know that to me it's a great b plus movie, or even an a minus. I probably would say like an a minus film and that's like. It's pretty good. What'd you say, Tup?
Speaker 2:I'll give it a B+, B+ yeah, about the same.
Speaker 1:It's a cult classic. It's not one of those ones that, oh, people need to be talking about this forever type thing. No, just like hey, have you seen that, bro? That movie was good. I remember this, I remember this, and then you can have a simple conversation and move forward. That's just the where it's at. But, yeah, I completely agree. All right, but otherwise, that's all we got. So this was very simple one road to el dorado.
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Speaker 2:You enjoy having having some of our goofy dynamics where we just talk about some of the most random off-the-wall shit.
Speaker 1:Be on the lookout and some of the best things in their culture, like especially yeah, I already had our first episode. So we already had like two episodes pre-recorded. We did one where I talked to you and Skip with D&D it was your first time playing D&D and of course we had a mock battle, which I am going to release that out, since you know. But I'm understanding that you kind of understand humbling yourself.
Speaker 2:now I don't think so. I don't think so. Oh my gosh, oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:And then also we got another episode. We wound up talking about the Akatsuki versus the seven Hokage and their prime. Who would actually win? On that, me and Tuck did not come to an agreement, but we had a pretty interesting conversation back and forth on to that. Yeah, yeah, I think it's pretty dope. Oh yeah, be on the lookout. We got way more nerd talk just coming in. We're going to be talking about some of the hottest topics on to it. I know we had already did a podcast onto the whole drake versus kendrick, but there might wind up being a little bit. There was some aftermath that came from that and tug has been keeping me up to date on that stuff. If I find something, it's still going on.
Speaker 1:Man, it's still going so we probably wind up having a whole nerd Talk episode on today. So until next time we'll talk to y'all later. Man, y'all have a great day. Thank you so much and remember, guys, as man JB always says, great things are coming. Stay nerdy friends, until next time.
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