Prepare to be transported to a world where the phrase "War never changes" resonates through abandoned streets and vaults of intrigue. JetBlackXtreme breaks down the Fallout TV show with Tinara and the Tattooed Enigma, connecting our cherished memories from the iconic game series to the dynamic characters and storylines of its television counterpart. We share our binge-watching strategies and compare notes on the impact of having all episodes at our fingertips versus the suspense of weekly releases.
This episode is a narrative labyrinth, charting the paths of characters like Lucy and Maximus, and dissecting the ethical mazes woven by Vault-Tec's experiments. We analyze the Brotherhood of Steel's cinematic portrayal and the emotional toll of decisions made in a lawless land. Tinara pinpoints her favorite characters, while J.B. unveil the surprise twist with Lucy's parents and the heavy implications of her mother's Pip-Boy, all within the morally gray landscape that Fallout fans adore.
As we wrap up, we tackle the fandom's response and the show's authenticity to the Fallout aesthetic. Will this screen adaptation bring fresh faces to the Fallout games? J.B. recounts how the series rekindled his own passion for the post-apocalyptic universe, and muse over the potential for newcomers to join our ranks, celebrating our shared love for these nerdy passions without gatekeeping. So gather your bottle caps, dear listeners, and brace for a journey through the Fallout TV show, where every choice shapes the wasteland's destiny.
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Prepare to be transported to a world where the phrase "War never changes" resonates through abandoned streets and vaults of intrigue. JetBlackXtreme breaks down the Fallout TV show with Tinara and the Tattooed Enigma, connecting our cherished memories from the iconic game series to the dynamic characters and storylines of its television counterpart. We share our binge-watching strategies and compare notes on the impact of having all episodes at our fingertips versus the suspense of weekly releases.
This episode is a narrative labyrinth, charting the paths of characters like Lucy and Maximus, and dissecting the ethical mazes woven by Vault-Tec's experiments. We analyze the Brotherhood of Steel's cinematic portrayal and the emotional toll of decisions made in a lawless land. Tinara pinpoints her favorite characters, while J.B. unveil the surprise twist with Lucy's parents and the heavy implications of her mother's Pip-Boy, all within the morally gray landscape that Fallout fans adore.
As we wrap up, we tackle the fandom's response and the show's authenticity to the Fallout aesthetic. Will this screen adaptation bring fresh faces to the Fallout games? J.B. recounts how the series rekindled his own passion for the post-apocalyptic universe, and muse over the potential for newcomers to join our ranks, celebrating our shared love for these nerdy passions without gatekeeping. So gather your bottle caps, dear listeners, and brace for a journey through the Fallout TV show, where every choice shapes the wasteland's destiny.
Visit Tattooed Enigma's Etsy shop for Fallout-themed 3D prints!
Text us for feedback and recommendations for future episodes!
We thank everyone for listening to our podcast! We hope to grow even bigger to make great things happen, such as new equipment for higher-quality podcasts, a merch store & more! If you're interested in supporting us, giving us feedback and staying in the loop with updates, then follow our ZONE Social Media Portal!
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all right, and joining me for the fallout review is tanara. How are you doing today?
Speaker 2:I'm doing all right. Doing all right. How about yourself?
Speaker 1:I'm doing good, doing good. So I'm kind of surprised when I was telling the inner circle, hey yo, like who's gonna review the fallout tv show, like I wouldn't be surprised if no one did. But I was like, hey yo, so uh, okay, okay, so, um, what's your impression of it?
Speaker 2:I liked it. Um, I haven't played. I mean, I've played maybe an hour or two of I believe it was Fallout 4. Um, I would have liked to keep playing, but you know things happen. So I didn't have all that much core knowledge about the series other than you know. I knew about the vault and you know nuclear fallout, blah, blah, blah, all the stuff that you know. Everyone knows about Fallout, yeah, and so you know, just going into it and I binged the whole thing real, real, real quick it was, it was, it was good, it was, it was good. Like I'm excited for season two, so See here's my thing, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1:My thing was I kind of wish I could have binged it all at once, but it was more like I had other podcasts going on. I tried to do other reviews. It was more like I watched the first six, Kind of like with Haspen Hotel all over again where I watched the first six and then I just pretty much waited for the last two on another day.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I got lucky. I was out of town watching. I was house-sitting for my cousin and so I had nothing but time, so I was able to binge it all right away, and I think that's generally, you know. It helps because you don't have to be like, okay, what happened last episode? Because you literally just watched last episode.
Speaker 1:And you know what's crazy, some people were complaining about how they should have went with the whole weekly release thing. I'm like I don't know, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I hate that, I hate that.
Speaker 1:See, that's how I get better at like that's the way I like to review things where I'm like okay, if I'm going to do a review, I would prefer to have all the episodes available all at once. So that's why I wait till the season one finale to actually do the review. So I might as well like if they're gonna drop the whole season all at once.
Speaker 2:Hey, even better, I can plan my whole day around it yeah, yeah, and that's one thing is like when I get into a show, it's like I need, I need more, like I can't just do one episode. Oh, I guess I have to wait a week, like no, no, no, no, no, no, like with has been, it was nice because they did. You know, they dropped two episodes each time. So you know, it's a bit it was more than just the one episode to watch, but like I just, oh, I am not good at waiting.
Speaker 2:I feel that so, yeah, I was very glad that they were all at once instead of, you know, once a week.
Speaker 1:Which I understand why they might do that, but I personally don't like that. Yeah, I like the.
Speaker 2:Netflix approach these days, exactly, exactly and, like I was, we were watching as a household. We were watching a Wheel of Time and that was a once a week thing. But you know, with it being a whole household, you know schedules and stuff that actually worked out better. But if it had been just me, I would have wanted to, just, you know, watch it and just watch it all. Just me, I would have wanted to just, you know, watch it and just watch it all. So it's like that's led to you know a lot of stuff. I will, um, I'll wait until it's all out, and then, just so, it's like, yeah, and that's like, um, like, with one piece, I, I will, I will hold off for quite a while until I have a nice buffer, and then I'll just start binging to get caught up again and then I'll do the same thing I'll wait and then I'll go, Because with that one, that one, you can't wait for all the episodes because you will never, never, finish it.
Speaker 1:It's like bro it's like the way they did it, though, like the way they structured it to where it's like you really can't be like um, dropping those one at a time, because you're gonna be itching to find out what happened in the next one exactly.
Speaker 2:so, yeah, so, yeah. So I was very glad that they did do that and because it happened. You know, when I was, I was basically had a break. I was able to just sit down and just watch it all, instead of being able to watch most of it and then having to wait Another week. When did it actually come out?
Speaker 1:April 10th.
Speaker 2:Okay, we still wouldn't have all the episodes, because there's 8 episodes and it has not been 8 weeks.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, I'm very glad they dropped it all at once so let's go ahead and get into the um, get your opinion, your perspective on it all. So all right for starters. Characters you have a favorite character?
Speaker 2:um, I mean, obviously we have, you know, the main character. Um, oh my, we literally just said her name a video, lucy Good gracious. Yes, thank you, it just went right out my head, god damn. Obviously, you know, everyone's supposed to like her and stuff, but I don't know. I think I'm torn between Moldova, was that her name? Yeah, I'm torn between um, what was it? Moldova Was that her name Moldova. Yeah, and um, the, the ghoul guy I'm, I'm terrible with names.
Speaker 1:Well, you had that one correct. It's like technically, that that's the name he goes by. So ghoul the ghoul, so.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um the ghoul. So yeah, um, like I don't know is is. Do you know? I know you, you haven't really played the games. Do you know if he's actually from any of the games? Because I don't I don't remember there being ghouls in the one that I played, of course I again.
Speaker 1:I didn't get very far in it well, honestly, I haven't played the games that much, so I can't really say, but based on what we've seen in the show, he was the vault boy, like he was the one yeah so I mean, obviously you know he's not a great guy, but you know he's been through some shit.
Speaker 1:I mean, he's been in 200 years as a ghoul. He got like how can I say it jaded by it all, Especially with how things played out to where someone found out that his wife played a hand in all of this.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, yeah, that was like ooh dude, I'm so sorry Like damn.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was like ooh, dude. I'm so sorry. Yeah, like damn.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that was.
Speaker 1:I mean, I'm sorry, we kind of jump around so yeah sorry, honestly, at this point with the Zone podcast it's better off that way, like for the sake of energy and camaraderie and whatnot. It's like let's not get too constrained with trying to go in episodic order. It's like let's just talk about whatever we want to talk about.
Speaker 2:That's fair and and and, honestly, you know when you, when you do binge, you sort of lose track of what happens in which episode yeah, so really just come down to what really sticks.
Speaker 1:It's like spitball and it's like all right, let me just moments, that's just gonna stick to my memory, like okay, let's get to the ending, to where, okay, that was the main thing, my whole thing with fallout.
Speaker 1:If I were to give a rating I'm going probably on till the rest of my guests when they jump on uh, the rating I would give fallout. Hmm, I would rate fallout right now a 9 out of 10, maybe 8.5. The only reason why is because there were some shots or scenes that felt like it kind of dragged on a little too long, or maybe it's like, okay, you kind of like uh, milking this one scene a little too long. Maybe, like I'm in my personal opinion, I would say just uh, tighten it up by a few seconds or so. And then, uh, sometimes, especially with Maximus, where it just feels like he just stands there just staring, looking like an awkward motherfucker, I'm like, are you gonna do something? Man, come on yeah, that was.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, I understand wanting to, you know, get your time in and whatnot for the episode, but like, yeah, there there were some parts where it's like, yeah, all right, whatever, I guess.
Speaker 1:I guess yeah.
Speaker 2:Cool.
Speaker 1:And some of the dialogue not all of it, but some of it felt a little predictable. It's almost like you kind of knew the direction it was going to go, because it's like I don't know, maybe it's me consuming so much content to a point to where some of these tropes, some of these cliches, some of these uh character arcs, it's like you're not you're not surprised by it, but it's still good. But it was like, to a degree I'm like I kind of saw that coming. So I can't be like fully surprised by everything, but, man, I still like how everything played out, to where you're coming to find out that man. For some reason I thought uh, lucy's mom was behind all all this, but turns out, yeah, I should have known, I should have suspected the dad that he was, uh, a vault tech employee and just like with uh cooper howard you know the ghoul that was his name before he became the ghoul yeah uh, barb, uh barbara, yeah, uh, yeah, hank, he was a vault tech employee.
Speaker 1:He was one of the dudes that was like chosen to be in vault 31. Um, in case you know, nuclear fall and kind of you know, kind of you know. I'll say this once and I'll probably say it multiple times, um, because I'm gonna do a fall extreme review. I'm gonna actually play the games and then give my impression on those. Uh, my thing is, it's all about accelerationism, or accelerationist mindset, to where, basically, you're forcing nuclear fallout on the world just to, um, get your money back on your investment for making these vaults.
Speaker 1:So yeah not only that is that essentially you're trying to play god and do all these experiments on these people that survive, so that way you can kind of like perfect humanity in your vision. So it's like whoa, what the fuck. And then you're thinking like it's, it's what Dane said when Maximus came back to the brotherhood. It's like nowhere safe, there is no leaving. Well, the second part eh, you know that's what it is with um brotherhood steel. But the first part, that rings definitely true, because you're thinking like, whether it's the vault or the wasteland, it's almost like which one you might take your chances with.
Speaker 2:Exactly Like. Either way, you're pretty well fucked.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like.
Speaker 2:It's like Damn, those are my choices, are you sure that's it? There's nothing else here. There's no, you know Option Z here that I can take instead. Damn, yeah, that's yeah.
Speaker 1:And like the damn, yeah, that's yeah, and like the um. And then when we when we do see lucy's mom, it's like, oh shit, oh man, yeah, I was like no, no see, I thought it would be one thing if uh, you know how shit it wasn't. Wait a minute, betty, that's right. The overseer at 33. Yeah, the interim overseer, betty, said that Lucy's mom died. He and she and his father buried her.
Speaker 2:But yeah.
Speaker 1:You were thinking like thinking like okay, I thought she was like dead shit yeah, but turns out like when Moldavia was like oh, you should already know what happened to your mother and Lucy turned like no, no, I was like yeah, take a look. I was like oh, and that explains the pit boy.
Speaker 2:I was like oh no it's like yep, nope, that's how they were able to get in, like oh shit, what the hell. And then like that whole part where you know she was talking to maximus and being like you know I, you know it felt like you know it was the actual sun and stuff the whole time because it was like oh, um, it was almost like okay, uh, lucy and I forgot rose.
Speaker 1:Um, rose and lucy went to shady sands on, decided to you know, just check out what. Uh, limo david got on going on shady sands and hank was like I don't think I like you talking to strange women now. And then it was like nah.
Speaker 1:Give me my children back. I don't like, fuck all that. And then, um, I don't want to go back with you. Y'all been doing some such shit. I've been on to y'all for a while. I was like, oh so it's like that, alright, I'll be right back. And then, boom Blows up, shady Sand Turns out, max Missiles in in there, survived with the whole bridge. It was, by the way, that's a mission in, uh, I think, fallout 4, um, but it was kind of like an easter egg right there. But whole point being is that it's really crazy how, um, that's how hank is connected to all three of those people, because, lucy being his daughter, the ghoul, who, for some reason, I think Hank knows where his family is. And if it wasn't for Hank, maximus would still have a family.
Speaker 2:If it wasn't for Hank, maximus would still have a family, mm-hmm, he would still be living in that. Yeah, he'd still be living there. But nope, they had to go and blow it up Because, like, nope, you can't have nice things, that's only for us.
Speaker 1:Hank is like a half-baked Naraku at this point, because you know how Naraku was in Ieyasu. It was like, oh well, well, I'm gonna fuck up everything For everybody.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Oh man the way he fucked over All three of them.
Speaker 2:Like yeah, like one woman rejected me, I'm gonna fuck Everything up. You're never gonna be rid of me. Like oh yeah, but yeah, it's just like okay yeah, but um yeah, it's just like okay yeah, but um yeah can I talk about how?
Speaker 1:can I talk about how with Lucy? I kind of like Lucy. I'm not 100% sure she's my favorite character. I would say the rule is but, um, mainly because, you know, because, uh, Walton Gargan very good on character, Uh, very good at it, but go ahead.
Speaker 2:You were saying yeah, I mean, you know she's the main character, so you know you're supposed to like her and stuff, but that doesn't have to mean she has to be your favorite, like I like her, but and same like, like you said, she's not my favorite. Like I said, that's, that's the like the ghoul, and um, uh, moldova, I think for my favorites. Of course, now moldova's fucking dead, so whatever, I guess oh man, okay, hold on.
Speaker 1:Can we talk about how, with Maximus, this dude keeps? He kind of like fails up at this point, but he's kind of a likable dude. It's just a matter of circumstances, like, okay, first of all, yeah, what you got.
Speaker 2:No, I was just agreeing that, yeah, okay. He is a likable character. He's a good character as well.
Speaker 1:Okay, I was just going to say how first of all he, dane, was supposed to get that promotion to be the squire to Knight Titus, but of course Maximus was a little upset because he won that promotion. But, dane come to find out he injured himself so that um maximus would get the chance. But uh, people just assume maximus did it.
Speaker 2:But nah, he got cleared over either way yeah, yeah, when, when uh kane said that in the you know further down, he's like I, I did it to myself, I didn't think they'd blame you, I'm sorry, and and stuff, and it's like I was just scared. It's like understandable, but dude, ow, the sheer amount of will to be able to actually do that to yourself. Yeah, crazy, that was not a pleasant sight. I was like, oh god.
Speaker 1:It's like I gotta make it look believable. But then inside I was like, oh god, it's like I gotta make it look believable. But, um, then, uh, when he did went on that mission with um titus and, by the way, man, with the brotherhood still. I was gonna kind of get to it at some point, but I just feel like at this point I might as well say it uh, maybe there's like a prelude to what the brotherhood still could be in the games. But as of now it just seemed like the brotherhood still just feel like bitch made to me, like I'm like, first of all, it's like these boys, it's like they're barely men. Like with titus, like um, he fucking ran away from that bear.
Speaker 1:I'm like, bro, you're a knight, you're not supposed to be scared of shit. Like that's supposed to be. Um, shit you deal with every day. It's like this, supposed to be like work. Like uh, he's like running around scared, like oh, fuck, fuck, fuck. I was like, oh, man, that's that looks ugly, that's an ugly sight to see, man.
Speaker 1:And then you know he was berating uh maximus for hesitation, which is fair, because, honestly, if I was on Maximus in that situation, I would have been like as soon as I saw that bear I would have been blasting immediately. But that's my main thing with Maximus. It was like his hesitation kind of pissed me off, where it's like are you going to do something or what? Like that happens a lot. It's like seems like he hesitates way too much for my taste. That's why I was like happens a lot, it's like, seems like he hesitates way too much for my taste. That's why I'm like, and maximus is okay, like I don't hate him, but there's just some flaws that he needs to like get past. Like another thing about him is that when lucy straight up was like, so you want to have sex, and I was like, uh, I don't know what. What is sex like? The closest thing I heard of that is like, oh, you know, when you're on pp does that thing. When you go pop the weasel like whoa bro y'all oh, she was.
Speaker 2:I loved how casual she was about it too. She was just so yeah so you want to have sex and he's just like oh what?
Speaker 1:no, no, no, you gotta understand the way that right all right you got. You gotta understand. She was supposed to get married but her husband turned out to be a raider and she really wanted just get married and settle down and just have a peaceful life. And this was like the first nice dude that she met, other than her fucking cousin, who's still in love with her.
Speaker 2:So I'm like to be fair, I'm like hey man look, I don't got too much time. Like I'm getting older.
Speaker 1:Do you want to do this or not?
Speaker 2:Yeah, do you want to do this or not? Yeah, well, I mean like like both times that, like it. She was just so casual about when it, when it was her, you know her who was supposed to be her husband, and stuff she was just like okie dokie so casual about it and then again with maximus, just so casual. It was just like it's like all right, cool and just yeah, and I. That was one thing like it. It's not a naivete, not words, naivete sort of thing.
Speaker 2:It's like I don't know how to describe it though, but the way like a slight innocence, but not like in the way that we think of innocence nowadays, um, but because you know, with both, with that she just like you know straight up, just like, hey, you know this is a normal thing, that happens, just let's do it and stuff, and then you know up on the surface, when she was like you know she didn't understand why anyone lie that or why you know she or hurting someone, and just there was so much she didn't understand that and it just it was an interesting thing. Like I was just sort of like that's an interesting. I mean because it makes sense, because shelter, that's sort of I think that's the word I'm thinking of Vault, there you go.
Speaker 1:vault shelter.
Speaker 2:Literally exactly. Like that was you know she grew up in this vault where you know things were a certain way. You know you didn't kill people, you didn't. You know that it didn't. I mean so far as she knew and the others knew. You know there's no real reason to lie about anything. You know everyone's all open and honest again as far as they thought at the time open and honest again.
Speaker 1:As far as they thought at the time um, yeah, that was not a maximum. Um, can I just say this real quick to where? Okay, when he lied to uh thaddeus about being night titus and whatnot, okay, that made sense. In the matter of, okay, brotherhood is still he kind of made sense. He's gonna get in trouble. Now I'm trying to explain what happened. Right, but why would he lie to luc Like that, like what was the, what was the goal? Like he didn't need?
Speaker 2:Yeah, but he didn't know who she was, where she was from, who she had ties with. He didn't know anything about her. So I mean it made sense to, I mean to keep up the act Of being this other person and stuff, because he didn't know you know she's. He doesn't know who this person, I mean he, he, he just used from the vault, right I think I don't remember if he actually realized that like pretty right off because of the outfit, obviously, um, but I mean he doesn't, he doesn't know what she's doing there, he doesn't know anything about her.
Speaker 1:So it makes sense to me that he would keep that up just to because if he, if she had times with the brotherhood somehow no, no, no, um, like he he would have known, because when he first uh met remember when she got to philly and that was he met, uh introduced to ghoul and Willzik and all those other people she had on the Vault jumpsuit when Maxima saved her. So Okay, so you're Vault-y, okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but like at that. I mean no one had seen anyone From the vault in god knows how long. So you?
Speaker 1:know. Okay, so I can't say he was equally ignorant of what a vault he looks like yeah okay, so it's like so.
Speaker 2:So yeah, so I I understand why he would have kept up that lie arrest for her. Um just because he didn't know. You know, yeah, because he I mean if he knew if word got back to the brother, know you know, yeah, I mean if he knew if word got back to the brotherhood, you know he was fucked and so it's like he doesn't know if she has any ties with anyone. So you know, let's be safe and be.
Speaker 2:Oh yes, I am knight Titus okay, yeah that's my view on it, at least, like is that it makes sense to me that makes sense but, um, but yeah, and like I mean, and you know, every time when you know he's lying and stuff, she's like why are you lying, why do you want? And he's like because they're lying too, like what, on the bridge with those two, uh, cannibal people? And they're both like hey, are you unarmed? Yeah, I'm unarmed, are you? Yeah? And she's like wait, no, we have guns, what are you talking about? And he's like shut the fuck up. And then the other two pulled out their weapons. And she's like but they said they were unarmed. And he's like well, obviously they lied, just like we did. And she was like just like we did. And she was like she just didn't, it didn't. She was like that's a necessity of living at this point there.
Speaker 1:So it's like, yeah, yeah, I mean like pretty much like you said, like when she grew up, shelter like she did, she, she's kind of built to be like a goody two-shoes, you know on the moral high ground.
Speaker 2:So she just assumed people would All of the yeah, that's basically that all vaulties, at least in that vault, obviously not in like the what was it? Vault 3 they went to, or whatever Vault 4.
Speaker 2:But like yeah, vault 4. So all the vaulties in her home, vault, vault. Like that's just how they are, they, you know, that's just how they are. So that's how she grew up, that's you know, it's that whole, you know, that's the circumstances she was raised in. So it's like why, why would anywhere else be any different? And boy did she find out, oh, it's much different.
Speaker 1:Yes, like that's just Pretty much. That's what I love about Fallout as a whole Story, to where it's like you have these people who Are believing this is how things work. But it turns out that not only that's not how things work, but they're also being lied to and experimented on for these higher ups that've been pulling the strings the entire time, whether it's in the vaults or outside of the vaults, and you're just like what the fuck is going on here.
Speaker 2:So yeah, yep, so it's like, oh, and then when we find out, find out each set of three vaults, because are they all? It seems like they're all in like a set of three, is that? Actually the case, or am I they're?
Speaker 1:not, that was just for those three, for 31, 32, and 33. That was just for those Because remember in the last episode where it was Bud's idea to make three of the balls connected just to experiment with. Okay, they're going to have ball 31 to assign for the people to the overseers to be like the executive over 32 and 33. And then, while 32 and 33, they're just kind of like this breeding pool for them to be, popular, so it was that thing. That was pretty much his idea too.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:It's like ooh, that's the one thing. The one thing I did love about Maximus is the line that he delivered after when he got the shady sands to, where he said that, um, everyone's trying to save the world, they just disagree on how yeah, yeah, so it's like, and, but some of their ideas were just fucking fucked up shit.
Speaker 2:Like, yeah, it's like, why the fuck would you do that? And it's just because they can um, but yeah, so it's like, um, um.
Speaker 1:I would say that's the law of the land, but it's a lawless land.
Speaker 2:So yeah, very much so, Very much so. It's just like, yeah, very, very lawless there and just yeah, but yeah.
Speaker 1:I mean, if anything, it's more like I won't say completely lawless, but it's more like it depends on who's in charge.
Speaker 2:It depends on who's in charge. Yeah, that's true, like the former president of the US being come in like the mayor of that one area and stuff, and that was, yeah, and you know, the first town she came on where she saved the scientist guy and Maximus showed up and stuff like that was. You know, there seemed to be some order, but it was very chaotic and what not. So it's like, yeah, that's it. Like you said, it depends on who's in charge yeah, and speaking of, I'll go ahead oh sorry, I was just like I thought of another character.
Speaker 2:Actually, I actually did like the um, the old lady that um at the shop that gave the scientist a like she's. She's fucking crazy, but I, I did. I did. I enjoyed her. She was fun uh ma june yeah, you know always yelling for the partner and stuff Like they were just fun Get out of here yeah.
Speaker 1:Man, you don't yell at me for any reason.
Speaker 2:Yep, Yep. So yeah, so no, that was another character that I enjoyed. That was another character that I enjoyed.
Speaker 1:Man, honestly, it's like One of those moments where I would slide to Barb like Barb. I don't know how you fucking do it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yup, but you know, they managed.
Speaker 1:I would have lost my mind by now, like this bitch got one more 20 billion anyways, it's like is this really necessary?
Speaker 2:come on now hmm, and I I like I said I had a comment on episode two, one of the few things that I actually remember which episode it was from. I was about to get real angry at all of y'all who told you know who was like, yeah, we're going to be, you know, doing this one, so watching stuff. I was about to be real angry and then y'all told me the fucking dog died. But then it became okay because the dog didn't actually die. I was for a minute there. I was like, I was so mad, I was like I'm gonna kill someone I don't know I don't know if the dog dies.
Speaker 2:I riot like no one told me the dog died. Why did no one tell me? But then it like, like I said then, then it was okay because the dog did not die, it was fine. But I was about to be I was like, oh, that happened, like he put that knife in that dog and I was like, oh, someone's gonna someone's, I'm gonna hurt someone like this is no. No one warned me. But then it was okay because you know it was. It didn't die.
Speaker 2:So I was like okay I don't, I don't have to hurt and I don't have to hurt anybody. But yeah, I was about to be real pissed Like. I was like no, no fucking way, there's a different dog meat.
Speaker 1:There's a different dog meat in every game, but it's not like the same dog meat. It's like you know, that's just like the mascot for it. I guess you can say. So there's going to be a Dogmeat in every adaptation. So I was like bro, they kill off Dogmeat in this one. I'm like that's crazy. But no, no, they kept him alive.
Speaker 2:Yep, yep, it was like, okay, no, we're fine, we don't have to kill anybody today. But yeah, that happened and I just I paused and I just sat there staring at the screen, going what the fuck?
Speaker 1:but you want to know what is crazy? That one scene where lucy uh enters vault 4 on level 12 and she was watching that one lady give birth to those piranhas, eating them up, eating her alive.
Speaker 2:I was like fuck dude yeah, that was like what the fuck? Like some of the I I I'm a little worried to find out what some of the other experiments that these people have been doing on the people in the vaults, like goddamn I mean it's like vault 4 just seemed like just like a whole bunch of movies.
Speaker 1:By the way, uh, the overseer there, benjamin, at first he kind of threw me off who he was at first Because I was like Kind of threw up by the eye. But as soon as I kept hearing him Talk, I was like wait a minute, I remember I recognize this guy. I'm like thinking, hold on, hold on, wait a minute, I know this guy, I know this guy. Oh oh, he's Zero from Archer, he's Jerry from Chris Parnell. Yeah, I was like, yeah, I know this guy from Archer, he's Jerry from Chris Parnell. Yeah, I was like I know this guy.
Speaker 2:It's like, oh okay, that's who it was.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, see, a lot of people were saying like Moises Arias who was playing Rico from Hannah Montana. I'm like man, that was obvious, like I can tell that was him the moment I first saw him. But like um benjamin, he kind of threw me off for a second um, but until I was like, hold on, let me hear him talk for a minute, because he sound familiar. Honestly, I can't wait for the archer review yeah, I.
Speaker 2:What? When is that gonna be, is it?
Speaker 1:January or is it TBA? No, it's like deep in June.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I was Under the impression that the final, did the final season already come out, or is it like Sometime? I keep hearing that I thought I thought Archer was done, come out, or is it like sometime? Can I keep hearing that? Let me look it up, hold on.
Speaker 2:I thought Archer was done. Hold on, I'm thinking done Is Archer done. I honestly don't know. Okay, so yeah. No one here is quite sure either.
Speaker 1:I don't know I'm going to find out right now, but maybe Alright alright, that works uh, yeah, it was done. December 17, 2023. Okay, so it is done. Done then, yeah, okay alright, 2017, 2023.
Speaker 2:Okay, so it is done. Done then. Yeah, okay, alright, that was a fun show.
Speaker 1:It was fairly recent. Oh fuck, I did not know that shit. But we're still going to review it, so we'll get to it In June, okay, cool. Yeah, was there anything else you want to talk about with this?
Speaker 2:I'm sure there probably was, but my brain is scattered usually so I can't think of anything. Like I said, I had that one comment on episode two where I was like y'all, but no, I think that about covers it. So I do, I do hope, I do like maximus and uh lucy together, so I do hope that you know that ends up coming to fruition or something.
Speaker 1:But I'm a shipper, so okay, hold on, he needs to read up on women first before they like develop a relationship. I'm like he was really fumbling that. I'm like come on, man.
Speaker 2:Hey, but to be fair, it was working, wasn't it? Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 1:I do like them together. But it's like, bro, bro, I'm not letting you slide for that, bro. I mean he, he still got the girl. I mean he got to kiss her twice. So I'm like, well, three times. But he was unconscious for the third time. But I'm like, hey, okay, yeah, he still got the girl.
Speaker 2:But I'm like, hey, man, you need to work on your ribs next time yeah, it's like yeah and learn how to fuck exactly, yeah, because you know, when he was describing what happened, like oh yeah, no, it explodes. Like uh, she's like that's what's supposed to happen. He's like what.
Speaker 1:That's actually pretty normal. He's like what I was like? Oh you poor boy. Yeah, yeah, all right. Well, I'm gonna have some other people on for this review, so I'm probably gonna save some notes for them. Like, honestly, I'm pretty good for right now, but, um, if you got nothing else, um, you sure you got nothing, yeah.
Speaker 2:I think. I think that's about it um yeah, like I said, just excited for season two, see what happens and stuff, so no idea when that's gonna be I mean it's already green lip or I think season two and three guys green lit already oh hell yeah sweet so, who knows, we'll see Tanara.
Speaker 1:I thank you for joining me. You go ahead.
Speaker 2:Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah.
Speaker 2:You as well.
Speaker 1:Bye all right, and now we have tattoo on for part two of the fallout. Uh review, uh, how you doing tate tattoo I'm hanging in there, man.
Speaker 3:How about yourself?
Speaker 1:I'm doing good, man doing good. So what's your impression of the fallout tv series?
Speaker 3:pleasantly surprised um yeah I kind of thought initially, um, because I mean, you know, let's be honest, hollywood doesn't really have the best reputation with adapting video games to any form of media besides video games, right. So you know, I was kind of skeptical at first, saw some early screenshots and was like OK, well, they've got the look nailed, but do they capture the story? Do they capture the spirit of Fallout? I think, yeah, they've got the look nailed, but do they capture the story? Do they capture the spirit of Fallout?
Speaker 1:I think they do. Yeah, they did Well for at least season one. Like so far, season one is doing great with giving us the vibe that, okay, this is like a prequel to everything, like, see, here's the thing. Like I was thinking about this as I was preparing for this review, to where, uh, for starters, with the brotherhood of steel, to how people will say, oh, yeah, they lost their way, but I'm like, hold on, um, isn't it supposed to be like a prequel to everything? So it's like, technically, isn't it more? Like, uh, the brotherhood of steel is like, okay, like they kind of fell off, yeah, but this is the part to where, okay, with Maximus and everything going on, you've seen the season finale.
Speaker 1:I was thinking like, okay, this might be the key moment that made the Brotherhood of Steel become what we know in New Vegas and all the other installments at least. Because, hey, look, I'm not I can't claim to be a fallout fan, because, like I didn't get into the games like everybody else did, like I was like, okay, it's nice and all, but I'm like I didn't get into it myself, like I didn't see the pool just yet until I saw this tv show, and I'm like, okay, I do have fallout four, but I barely played that game honestly like right. But all I'm saying is I feel like if you're a fallout fan, you play the games. You might still like it. But maybe some inconsistency with the timeline or, as far as I know, you know how fans and critics are. They're going to nitpick about something, but for the most part it's hard to hate this series so far.
Speaker 3:I agree, it was really weird, though, though right, because it's like I was. So I don't. I don't want to say I'm like a die-hard Fallout fan. Um, I like Bethesda games. Um I like I. I never played the first two games um you know they were like.
Speaker 1:They were like, uh, pc games, so you have to like get it on steam and shit. Like I mean I can, if I wanted to like just play on steam. But I'm like, okay, you know what? Tell you what? Um, since all the games are standalone on their own, you know like they have their own plot line, like they have an overarching like universe, but, um, the games don't really uh connect with each other like that. So it's like with fallout one and two, you can play those if you want to, but if you're anything like me, you know like a console plebeian, you can play um fallout 3 and new vegas on playstation or xbox, whatever console you got right, yeah, and so, like I picked up fallout 3 and I played three, I played new vegas and I played about half of four um, and like the way people talk about new vegas man, like they feel, oh yeah, this is the one bro, it is, it is so good.
Speaker 3:I mean now, granted, I played it, it's, it's. I haven't played it in at least eight or nine years, maybe 10 years, but uh, fallout 3 and fallout new vegas I played to completion. I mean, I got all the achievements on xbox. I played every fucking mission, I did all of it. I loved both of those games. Fallout 4, I kind of fell off a little because the whole base building aspect kind of pulled me out of it a little bit. But I actually kind of want to go back to Fallout 4 now, after the series, you know, because it's like it made me remember how much I loved that whole aesthetic, that whole universe. Really, you know, because it's one of those things where it's like everybody likes Elder Scrolls. You forget that you like it until you see it again and then you're like, ah, shit, I did like that game, didn't I? And it's the same thing.
Speaker 1:Right, and you know what. You brought up a whole bunch of good points that I wanted to make, like, first of all, how, you know, how you were saying earlier about harleywood making these adaptations, and you have like goobers who make shit like, uh, masters of the universe, revelation, or uh, what was it? Uh, cowboy bebop. They're like oh, there's a love letter to the source material. Shut the fuck up, right, exactly, exactly. And then you have this one. I was like yes, this, this.
Speaker 1:See you, you saw the news where everybody was going back to like fallout 76, fallout 4 buying new vegas, and fallout 3 is like this is a proper love letter to the franchise because it's a prequel to our like oh, now I get the appeal of. Oh, now I want to play the games. Now, that's what it was supposed to do. It's supposed to be a companion to uh like. Essentially, you're not trying to draw away from the games, but, in other words, you're trying to inspire other people to like either get back into games, like, fall in love with the franchise all over again or, at the very least, introduce new people, which, by the way, I still kind of don't understand the gatekeeping aspects of it to where people were like oh well, you didn't play it back in our day, so you're not real. For a little bit I'm like. What kind of attitude is that man like? And that's like, I'm sorry, I'm, I'm.
Speaker 2:This is one of my uh, infamous brands I'm sorry so I'm like bro, yeah, you're good, you're good, you're good.
Speaker 1:So I'm like, bro, like what kind of attitude is that? Because, like, I kind of get it to where, okay, you don't want the obnoxious fan like the uh, the kind of fans that you know they get into these fan bases for the wrong reasons. You know, like, how they try to pervert some of these fan base to the day like I'm on, it's hard to say, but you, you know the ips that people got into and then it's all fucked up.
Speaker 3:Like I'm not, I'm, I'll have you here all night tattooing, I'm not no, but I I know where you're coming from and I agree with you, because there's nothing worse than like being lukewarm on a franchise and then finally finding the one thing that makes you want to dip your toe into it, and then you have all of these asshats trying to push you away from it by gatekeeping it. It's like you know, if you genuinely care for the franchise, if you love the franchise, you shouldn't be pushing people away. You should pull them in. For instance, I am a huge resident evil fan and I have people who have never played a resident evil, but then they'll play seven or they'll play eight and they're like you know, this is actually kind of cool. I might check out the other ones and I'm like let me talk to you about resident evil, because I can go on about that shit.
Speaker 1:So like, I never understood in october.
Speaker 3:So hey, I'm here, dude, I'm here for it. But I never understood that whole like gatekeeper mentality, because it's like, just because you didn't jump on the bandwagon when everybody else did doesn't mean you can't enjoy a franchise for what it offers you. Just because, right, you know, at the time maybe your head wasn't in that type of of headspace, you know, like, right you, you can't. You can't expect somebody to like everything that you like when you like it like, for instance, I'm a huge turn-based fan when it comes to like rpgs, I love, I love turn-based rpgs.
Speaker 1:That is like fire emblem, like that was the main one for me boy, I love it.
Speaker 3:And then, like you know, um the yakuza like a dragon. When that shit came out and it went turn-based, right man, I was all over it, all over it. But I have friends that weren't into it and then they play like a dragon and they're like yo, this is kind of fire. And I'm like yes, it really is. Like a lot of people get down on things like that because they don't see the appeal to it until it's presented to them in a way that you know appeals to their sensibility. And then, once they see it in a way that they like it, because it's an environment that they like, or it's a character they relate to, or a setting that the video game takes place in, you know, whatever it is that tickles their fancy, that's what pulls them in. So, like you know, the whole gatekeeper mentality never appealed to me because it's like it's the most asinine way to go about something. Like you love something so much that you want to keep new people from discovering it. Like what?
Speaker 1:kind of bullshit is that?
Speaker 3:Yeah, like that people from discovering it like what kind of bullshit is that? Yeah, like that's so stupid man it's.
Speaker 1:It's the most ass backwards way to do anything. Really, it's more like gatekeeping. It's just a new way of saying hipsters, because you remember back when we used to call people like this hipsters? Like oh well, I got in this way before you did. You don't even know, I don't like bro, like okay, you it's the whole.
Speaker 3:It's the whole fucking anime argument. Anime is cool now, bro, but like what? About people like us? It's like the anime, since, like dragon ball z was airing on toonami right look, look, I remember. I remember being like how was I? Was like 10 years old. This guy that worked with my dad came over because, uh, when, when I was younger, my dad had a screen printing business where uh, then he ran out of the house where we would screen print t-shirts, this guy he worked with wanted to print one of his designs.
Speaker 3:He came over and he brought me first two animes I was ever exposed to okay, akira and ninja scrolls. Okay, boy, I tell you what, open my eyes, dude. I was like what is this? This shit is amazing. Ninja scrolls to this day still one of my all-time favorite anime movies, hands down. I love it. It is amazing. I bought it three times on vhs. I bought the first dvd release, I bought the special edition dvd release, I have the blu-ray release. I have like six copies of that damn movie I love.
Speaker 3:It. Can't get enough of it.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I feel that, man. You got me thinking about all the uh first animes I've watched. Like you gotta understand, I'm I said it before and I said again I'm like kathy and andor when it comes to animes, where I've been in this fight since I was six years old. I shit you not my friend, like I was there back when dragon ball z was brand new to the states.
Speaker 1:I was there back when you saw shit like Tenchi Muyo, mobile Suit, gundam Wing, fucking Pokemon, digimon All that shit was brand new To the states. That's how far back I go back. Am I the motherfucker that would say like, oh well, if you didn't get into it back, then you might as well don't even waste your time? I'm like no, like hey, you're a new fan. Hey, welcome to the world. Let me be your guide.
Speaker 3:That's me, yeah, it's like it's like oh, you want to get into this? Man, I got some shit for you.
Speaker 1:Check this out, like hey same thing with magic, the gathering, like hey, man, there's no gatekeeping here. You want to play the game? Okay, we'll introduce you to the game. Let's get into it.
Speaker 3:Let me give you this work exactly I got a friend that I work with man. Uh, I don't even remember how the topic came up about magic the gathering with him, but we were talking one day in the office and I said something about him.
Speaker 3:He's like I don't know what that is, and I was like homie, you need to come to the house, I'm gonna give you a rundown, I promise you you're gonna love it, dude can't get enough of. He came up to me the other day and I mean, now, keep in mind, he's only been, he only discovered magic, the gathering, like last year, so like two days ago. He walked up to me at work and he's like hey, dude, have you seen this card called torpor orb? And I was like, boy, let me tell you about torpor. You get put in work with that. People get pissed about that call. He was like, oh man, I could only imagine. But I mean like it's, it's people that gatekeep shouldn't, shouldn't even be a thing. It should be people like us. That is like, oh, you want to get into this. Let me show you some of the highlights, because I mean like, honestly, with any franchise, any anything you get into, there's loads man, there's, there's shit that makes you go. Yeah, that's, that's a part of this I don't know.
Speaker 1:Now, bear in mind now. Bear in mind I will be that guy for some folks. But let me make it clear now, because some folks, oh my god, chat to like it. It felt like back in the day, like years ago, not too long ago, but like I want to say like half a decade ago. Let's just say that there was some folks that, after like they were dry humping my leg, wanted to know everything. They want to know about what I knew. And I'm like, okay, kind of flattering, but getting kind of creepy. I'm not going to be your alternate for Google. You got to do some of the research on your own, but I'm not going to hold your hand for everything. I'm just going to introduce you to it, but then at some point you're gonna have to do the work on your own. But some folks just have like I need to be their uh, forever teacher, mentor, guru, whatever the case may be once again flattered.
Speaker 1:but hey man, I'm a student of life, just like everyone else I'm not trying to be anyone's teacher.
Speaker 3:Truth, man, truth, absolutely. But to flip it back over to Fallout, I'll tell you one thing that they did that I really liked in the show. So first of all, I think the casting was awesome. Walton Goggins, anything that man is in there. I love it. He had one scene that absolutely encapsulated Fallout to its core, and it's the scene where him and Lucy are arguing because that giant mutated axolotl has gotten the head that they're both going after.
Speaker 1:Oh the gore. Yeah, axolotl has gotten the head that they're both going after.
Speaker 3:Oh the gold, yeah, and so they're. They're arguing back and forth, and I can't remember his exact delivery, but he said it's the golden rule thou shall always get distracted by bullshit. That is not necessary, right? It's so true, because it it does not matter what you're doing you're, you're mainlining your story, in fallout, and all of a sudden some comes out of left field and you're like you know what? We're getting derailed, aren't we? And then you're six hours in on all these side quests. You forgot about your main quest, all together.
Speaker 1:Translation stand on business.
Speaker 3:Yup, because the world is so vast and so open and there's so much in it that you just can't help it. Like you can Tell yourself you're gonna do this and it never happens. That way, you will always get sidetracked.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, now Tattoo. Listen, the ghoul Was the original vault boy.
Speaker 3:Crazy, right bro, they did so much shit in this show. That was just chef's kiss. I mean, I loved it.
Speaker 1:Oh, that was that was so good. Okay, let me go back to the season finale, because that was the main thing that was really got me off, because the way they connected all three of the main characters lucy, maximus and the ghoul to where with hank you know he's a bad guy at this point and essentially, obviously, uh, he was responsible for shady sands all because, oh well, his wife got on, called on to him. So he's like okay, lucy, norm, come with me. Um, get away from daddy, let's go to shady sands. And then he was like, um, hey, man, what you doing? Like come back to um 433. I'm like, nah, nah, you're sus. And I was like, oh, so that's how you feel. All right, he took the kids, blew up on shady sand, the same place that maximus was, um, born and raised in, and luckily he survived by getting into that fridge.
Speaker 1:But mainly it was like hank was also the assistant to um fucking, um, cooper's wife, um Barb, and you saw Barb do her speech. I'm like, wow, that's how you feel, barb, okay, okay, and essentially it's like the way it probably seems to hang to where he killed Lucy's mom. He is responsible for bombing Maximus' hometown and since he knew the ghoul and his wife and daughter and all that shit and the ghoul's trying to figure out where's my family. Hank and I was like holy shit. Hank is like when I say, okay, another anime reference, if you know any. I'm like he became the Naraku of fallouts, where I'm like everything connects to him now yeah, and, and you know what?
Speaker 3:it was funny because, like, I saw this meme I don't know if you'd call it a meme, but I saw this post earlier today on social media that I feel like it was kind of a stretch, but at the same time, it could have been maybe, possibly, we'll see. You know, they they had a picture of young hank and current hank and they're like, well, if this is the same person, could? This be the same person hold on, hold on.
Speaker 1:can I? Can I just pause and say when I saw that scene it felt like iron man, three young tony. No, no, no, no, civil War Tony, it was like young Tony where it was like I kind of don't like how y'all de-age him as soon as his face popped up on the screen.
Speaker 3:I turned and looked at my wife and I was like she was like yeah. I was like nah, dude, that ain't working for me.
Speaker 1:I like it's so noticeable. I'm like there's.
Speaker 3:There's nothing worse than like that weird de-aging technology, where it's like like sometimes it's pulled off well. But then there's instances like in civil war and in fallout, where it's like it's almost like there's a, a fucking bubble around their head. It's like, yeah, it's like the green screen is like kind of trying to show through type thing. I don't know how to explain it, but it's one of those things where it's like sometimes you see it and it's done just right. And then there's instances like this where you see it and you're like they didn't hide the edges well enough yeah, it's almost like the cgi wasn't perfectly aligned with how a person would actually talk.
Speaker 1:So it's almost like you. It's like even when you see his um lip movement, it kind of felt like, yeah, um, it's a little noticeable how you're kind of using um cgi technology or something like that. Either that, or it just felt like you just took some sort of animatronic and just de-aged Hank and I'm like fuck man, I'm sorry. See, that's the thing. That's why I say this show gets like a generous nine, maybe like 8.5, solid uh for me because like it's still great. Like storyline wise it's great.
Speaker 1:Uh, the main thing was that, okay, the one thing with hank that's my main thing like as far as like okay, you could have done a little bit better than that, or very least kind of like darken that scene, because the brightness of that uh moment didn't help. That's the main thing was like the brightness made it worse. Uh, what else? Um, mainly, I'm gonna say, with maximus, because like the acting from it was like it felt like he was hesitating, like a little too, almost like the editing could have Tightened it up by a few seconds To where it just felt like Are y'all gonna do something or not it just literally. He just Looking at the camera for like A little too long yeah it almost.
Speaker 3:It almost felt like you could feel him thinking About his actions Like as an actor, not as a character.
Speaker 1:Does that?
Speaker 3:make sense.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, no, I get that, I get that. It's just that it's kind of like a second or two, because it just kind of felt like a little awkward the longer it was, like OK, a parallel, I would say, because it kind of served. The intensity of the scene is when Lucy was pointing the gun at Hank and I'm like okay, that kind of made sense. But even then it felt like kind of dragged on a little Like I kind of get it but eh.
Speaker 3:It's kind of one of those things where, like I agree with you, I feel like it could have been tight, though. It's kind of one of those things where, like I agree with you, I feel like it could have been tight. I feel like, though I feel like some of the decisions that they made, um, I feel like what they're gonna do is they're gonna chalk it up to trying to like, uh, capture the, the video game. Um, because, like you could tell, like an instance where you can tell they did this is like any scene with Lucy. Honestly, any scene with her was them basically trying to trying to pull the feeling from the video game of the freedom of choice. If you've played any Fallout game, or actually, if you've played any open-ended game, mass Effect, any Bethesda title, anything that has branching story paths, right, they always give you like Baldur's Gate 3?
Speaker 3:Yeah, Baldur's Gate 3. Perfect example. They always give you like Good answer, middle of the road answer, bad answer and like a key example would be the scene where Maximus and Lucy were on the bridge and they cross paths with the two tweakers and they're like do you have guns? No, Do you have guns? No, OK. And then she was like, well, they said they didn't have guns. They're obviously lying. And so then you have Lucy, who's ever the optimist because she's lived in a vault her whole life.
Speaker 1:She's like no, we give them the benefit of the doubt.
Speaker 3:And it's like no, the fuck, you don't you assume everybody's trying to kill you.
Speaker 1:Tanara, from part one, brought up a very good point to where Lucy is sheltered, and it, from part one, brought up a very good point to where lucy is sheltered. And it makes perfect sense because they were living in a fucking shelter their whole lives exactly.
Speaker 3:There has never been a better way to show that than pulling a an actual survivor, from the shelter out and putting them into the world. It's a real world situations like that. Another situation where you see something like that is uh, the asshole that drank all of her water and what was it?
Speaker 3:the second episode and she's like uh, sir, sir, I need that back, sir, sir. And he's like oh yeah, I needed to like there's. There's things where they do that, where it's like you can clearly tell there they're trying to to capture the essence of the game, right, and so that's like I kind of feel like that's what they would try to do also, also between lucy and the ghoul, where the ghoul is trying to convince lucy that, oh, it's only a matter of time before you become jaded and grizzled like me you know, like, uh, you gotta seen it.
Speaker 1:When, essentially, uh, the ghoul sold her to those guys sold trying to get Harvester Oregon for refills, and she obviously felt betrayed. But then again the golden rule kicked back in. It's like her golden rule is like treat unto others how you want to be treated. So it was like oh no, I'm not going to treat you dirty like you did me. It's like I'm'm gonna do things my way, like I'm just gonna give you refills and be on my way. So that was nice. So the wasteland didn't fully corrupt her just yet. But I kind of like how, after that point, she kind of started cussing a little bit more because it kind of felt like, um, she had that uh, okie, dokie, what the fuck? Uh kind of thing to where she was like kind of avoiding cussing. But then after that moment it's like golden rule, motherfucker.
Speaker 3:I was like whoa, hold on lucy yeah, exactly, exactly, and you know it's kind of fun because, like it's, uh, it was a fun, it was a fun comparison to go um back and forth between the surface and the shelter, because you would have all the people in the shelter, with the exception of lucy's brother, who are like stuck in this, uh, oh, can't this mindset, go ahead okay, first of all, my favorite part about norm obviously almost everybody's favorite part about norm.
Speaker 1:When they were doing that uh interview with him like um, did you know that with every job that um, your performance review says lack enthusiasm? And he was like no, but that sounds accurate and he was like smirking a little bit.
Speaker 1:I'm like, hey, man, to be fair, all right, okay, that was like the funniest thing he did other than that. I'm like, okay, he playing a little detective trying to figure out what the hell's going on with bolt 31, 32 and 33 and you find, well, he kind of finds out in his own way what the hell's going on. It went bud in that fucking um jar like. By the way, if you have the captions on when you're watching this show, it says rain on a ruba, how they describe. Hold on, wait a minute. Keep in mind this is a alternate universe to where the vietnam war never happened. So none of that shit that we have here never happened. They pretty much was stuck in like 1950s, um retro vibe the whole time up until, like, the great war and everything and blah blah. So how the fuck do y'all know about room buzz and bro.
Speaker 3:I saw that because so I have. I always watch. I'm just out of habit. I watch everything with subtitles because I've got kids noisy in my house. I always watch subtitles because, like, if I can't hear it, at least I can read it. I saw that and I started laughing so hard I had to pause the show and my wife didn't catch it. She was like what are you laughing at? And I was like it said brain on a room book, or like, how did you die? Like it made me laugh, like heartily laugh. I loved it. I thought that was absolutely.
Speaker 1:I mean it was accurate, but it's not supposed. It ruins the Jesus Christ dog, like really.
Speaker 3:That was definitely a fourth wall break. That wasn't necessary. And again, like you said, if you don't have the captions on, you're not going to catch it, because clearly it's not going to just throw that up On the screen, but it's one of those fun little easter eggs, man. Like I saw that and I started laughing and I had to rewind it and show it to her. Then she got a good little chuckle out, but I mean definitely, uh, broke the pierce, the veil there.
Speaker 1:A little bit. Yeah, I'm like, hey, hold, that's like um, this one. I forgot exactly what scene it was like. It was from a movie, but essentially it was like I think it was Star Wars. Yeah, it was Star Wars. They were filming and somebody left a coffee cup in the scene and they filmed the fucking scene with that coffee cup still there. Hey yo, that's not supposed to be there.
Speaker 3:Yeah, dude, I love catching shit like that. I'm notorious for it. We'll be watching a movie or something and they'll. They'll have a scene where they like, uh, they go from character a to character b, character a, character b and like I'll catch shit where it's like, oh, they clearly filmed this at two separate times and I was like, what do you mean? I'm like, watch this, I'll rewind it. I'll be like, look at her hair, look at her hair now, and like the first time her hair will be in a ponytail. The second time her hair is down, then it cuts back to her again. Her hair is back up in a ponytail. They shot this out of order. You can clearly tell that. And when you catch it like that, it's funny as hell, man. But they've gotten better about it.
Speaker 3:But one of the first ones I remember catching I don't know if you remember this or not, but first Mortal Kombat movie came out in the 90s, right, right, you got your scene where Johnny Cage and Scorpion are fighting in the forest. Now they have cleaned it up in later releases of the movie. I still have the original two-sided DVD with that funky-ass case release of it when that movie first came out out. So they're supposed to be on an island in the middle of the ocean, in the middle of nowhere. But if you watch, there's a scene where scorpion does a cartwheel behind a tree and disappears. Johnny cage is panning the forest trying to find him and you fucking see cars driving by in the distance between the trees. It's like if you're on a fucking island where all your inhabitants are martial artists, there shouldn't be cars like you shouldn't see a chevy s10 driving down the road here, man, you know what I mean. Like it kind of breaks the illusion, but you know, whatever, yeah it's crazy, like it kind of breaks the illusion, but you know, whatever.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's crazy. Oh yeah, I love. I love when they slip up like that, but overall, though, like I said at the top man, I'm pleasantly surprised with it. I think I think they did good. I think renewing it for a second season Is going to be a great idea. I'm glad they did, because the cliffhanger, quote unquote that they left it with at the end of the first season, where you see, you know New Vegas.
Speaker 1:And all the things that led up to. I have to look at that real closely and see that, okay, it's kind of in ruins. So I'm thinking like Hold on. So is this before or after the events of fall of new vegas?
Speaker 3:And I'll tell you something Else that I want to know who the fuck Is that snake oil salesman and why Does he have the shit that he has Like? Really, who is that man? Who is he? I want to know, because the fact that the fact that he just whipped that shit up like something's going on man, I'm he's, he's gotta. He has to come back in season two if they don't bring him back, that is a missed opportunity I mean it kind of makes sense because, oh, whoa shit.
Speaker 1:Um, I don't know if this has to go and happen, but because, keep in mind, he has a fusion core from um, buying it from thaddeus because, you know, thaddeus needed his um foot fixed. But, oh man, the way that snake oil salesman fucked over thaddeus to where it's like, yeah, we can help fix your foot, but, um, you're essentially gonna become a ghoul. And you see that when uh, he got shot, uh, in the net with that arrow, it's like, wait, hold on, why am I not dead?
Speaker 1:and he's like, uh, that is, I think you might be a ghoul. And he was like, oh man, I was like, okay, that's kind of a under reaction, but that's the kind of funny thing. Uh, with fallout, yeah, it's supposed to be a drama Action show, but some of the comedic Beats are Fairly funny. Like well, not all of them, but I felt like Fallout was trying to be A comedy and a drama and an action Spaghetti western type show At the same time. So like the four elements Kind of mix, it mixed well in some areas and then, excuse me, and then other times like okay, like I felt like, um, that could have been handled a little better. So, once again, that's why I say 8.5 at east, maybe a 9 if I'm being generous.
Speaker 3:I agree with that. I mean, like I said, as a somewhat fan of the franchise, I'm not completely die hard, but I did get sucked into it a lot with 3 and New Vegas, definitely, and you know, also with the Universe Beyond of Magic that dropped right before perfect timing. I mean, just, you know, it's like Hasbro primed all the fucking nerds in the universe for this and then the show came out and it just went through the ceiling man. So, like I have to agree with you, I was happy with how they did the show.
Speaker 3:um, I'm happy to see that someone in hollywood didn't have their head up their ass when they made this and they actually, they actually did it right. There were a lot of little things in the show that I like oh there was a another thing.
Speaker 1:There was something about new vegas that I was meaning to mention how just earlier today I saw a article about how the director of new vegas uh fans was asking him oh, how are you gonna feel about the show, uh, if they make any change to what happened in new vegas? And the director was like hey man, I do not care, I was just a director, I just worked on the project. I don't own the shit.
Speaker 3:So whatever they want to do with it, that's their business yeah, I didn't read the article, but I saw that headline and I thought that was kind of funny, because it's like, you know, you can take it one of two ways. You can take it as either he's being a smug asshole or you can take it as he's just being, you know, honest about it. At face value it's like hey look, I have no skin in this game. Like they called me in to direct it, I directed their game for them. This is their universe, it's their toys. I just played in their sandbox with them, you know. So like it's going to be interesting to see what they do and if they do pull anything from, uh, new vegas. But I'll tell you this now knowing that season two is going to be in New Vegas, it makes me want to go back and play New Vegas again, just so that when season two does come out. A little bit of that is still fresh in my mind and I might actually do that.
Speaker 1:Well, let's be real, the whole show was a whole bunch of once again, a whole bunch of Easter eggs, if you're like a hardcore fallout fan. But it was more like they were alluding towards people, um, either already being a fan of, or they're encouraging people to get into playing fallout new vegas, fallout 3, fallout 4, and Fallout 76, because they made a bunch of references to that. I'm going to try to wrap it up in just a moment, but considering me trying to get into Fallout for real this time and I'm learning about all the different balls, bro, some of these balls are fucking fucked, aside from bro, like, some of these balls are fucking fucked. Like okay, uh, yeah, yeah, like aside from ball 21 to where, uh, mr house literally like won the ball over on gambling and then cemented the whole ball.
Speaker 1:so it's like it's like the whole um, old saying the house always wins and I'm like, okay, I kind of get that now and then there was a bunch of vaults but like, honestly I'm just trying to wrap it up but man, the worst vault so far in my opinion, even though it's gonna sound crazy, considering how there's like literal vaults where, okay, let's put like 20 people and a panther in there. The worst vault by far for me that has that curse energy Vault 11.
Speaker 3:I thought you were going to say Vault 11. I agree.
Speaker 1:Vault 11 is pretty fun.
Speaker 1:I'm going to let you listen to this. I'm gonna let y'all find out on your own if you're interested about Vault 11, but I'm like this is fucked, like I mean, like I've seen other experiments that look okay, even in the fucking show, where they go to Vault 4, right, and Lucy finds out about the experiment they were doing like on level 12 and there was this one lady that was giving birth to like what piranha fish and they were eating her alive. Okay, that was fucked up, obviously, obviously, but something fucked about what happened at vault 11, for real, agreed it'll be.
Speaker 3:Uh, it'll, it'll be. It'll be fun To see if, if the show continues Long enough, how much of the lore they're gonna pull in, because there's definitely some Opportunity for some really messed up Shit to happen, you know. So we'll See where they go with it, we'll see.
Speaker 1:And before we end this up. So we'll see where they go with it, we'll see. And before we end this up, we obviously got to do some shameless plugging. So, tattoo, I know you've been mainly working on Fallout 3D, prince. How's that going for you, by the way?
Speaker 3:It's going great, man. So I recently opened my Etsy shop. I don't really I've had a lot of traffic, not a lot of buyers yet, but if you guys want to check that out, go to Etsy. You can search for my shop name. It's called Something Grafty Print. So I've got a set of Fallout tokens for Magic the Gathering, for the Fallout set, I know I've got a four-way rad counter. I've got a treasure counter that has a Nuka-Cola machine. I've got an energy counter that has the fusion core on it. I've got a robot counter. I've got a junk counter. I've got you know all kinds of stuff going on the Fallout set. Man, that one really did me well, that was the first set that I started with. I designed the four-way rad counter and that shit blew me up. Man, I've probably sold 40 of those things and it is absolutely amazing.
Speaker 3:It's. Actually I got a guy coming over here tonight that runs a shop in my state. He's about an hour away. He hit me up and he was like I want a set up the fallout counters and I want some fallout deck boxes. So I've got those and he's going to be here shortly to pick those up. So you know, anybody, if you've got the pre-cons, check my shop out you can find my Facebook page. You know I'm in the Facebook. I'm in the Magic, the Gathering. If you're in any of that stuff. You've probably seen me flood shit with all of my works.
Speaker 1:Feel free to reach out, man, feel free, hell, yeah. So check out Chris Marsh on Facebook and, once again, that is something crafty print on Etsy. Check him out, check out all the different tokens and debt boxes and whatnot he can make, and also keep in mind that I can also 3D print stuff, whether it's from miniatures to dice to dice towers, like I'm gonna be the hank hill of 3d print where I'm like I um 3d print dice and dice accessories exactly, and I mean realistically, man, if you think about it, our, our two main, our two main products are a match made in heaven.
Speaker 3:I make the tokens that hold the dice that you make, man. So I mean we get together and collaborate with them sometimes.
Speaker 1:Hell yeah. And with that being said, that will conclude the Fallout TV Show review. Please give it a chance. If you haven't, I don't know why you're even listening to all these spoilers. If you haven't watched the show't know why you're even listening even all these spoilers. If you haven't watched the show, well, you know whatever. But if you did watch the show, I hope you enjoyed as much as we did. I hope it inspired you to get into the fallout games, like it has done to me, because we're gonna revisit fallout with an extreme review to where I'm going to give you my impression of the games and hopefully season two and potentially a season three will roll out and we'll just talk about the games in between those. But until the next episode of the zone podcast, remember to stay nerdy and remember that great things are coming. Stay safe out there and remember war never changes Everyone trying to save the world. They just disagree on how. Take it easy, y'all.