We kick things off with a riotous bang as 'Norbit' takes center stage on our podcast, where Eddie Murphy's multi-character mastery pulls us into a whirlwind of laughs and relationship real-talk. Get ready to chuckle and nod along as we dissect the oh-so-complicated love triangle of Norbit, his colossal wife Resputia, and the ever-charming Kate. Murphy's shape-shifting performances have us reminiscing on his iconic roles and how they've shaped our expectations of comedy. We're peeling back the layers of each scene, from the wild wedding fiasco to the honeymoon havoc, all while asking ourselves how the jokes have aged in today's shifting comedic landscape.
Diving deeper, we put the spotlight on the portrayal of men in relationships, particularly when they're on the receiving end of abuse. It's a no-holds-barred discussion as we challenge societal expectations and stereotypes, shining a light on why self-worth and independence are crucial before diving heart-first into love. We also get candid about the need for a partner who's your cheerleader and critic rolled into one – because let's face it, sunshine and rainbows don't make a relationship grow. The meat of this chat? How vital clear communication is, and why understanding the difference between support and suppression can make or break your love life.
To close, we'll have you in stitches again as we ride along Norbit's metaphorical bike journey of personal growth and how his community becomes the unexpected wind beneath his wings. We take a nostalgic trip through the evolution of comedy, touching on the works of legends like Redd Foxx and the cultural sensitivities that have reshaped what tickles our funny bones. Wrapping up with our nearly perfect ratings for 'Norbit', we invite you to revel in its classic charm, tease the possibility of even greater laughs in unseen footage, and encourage you to stay connected for more nostalgic trips and insightful banter that's sure to keep you nerdy and entertained.
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We kick things off with a riotous bang as 'Norbit' takes center stage on our podcast, where Eddie Murphy's multi-character mastery pulls us into a whirlwind of laughs and relationship real-talk. Get ready to chuckle and nod along as we dissect the oh-so-complicated love triangle of Norbit, his colossal wife Resputia, and the ever-charming Kate. Murphy's shape-shifting performances have us reminiscing on his iconic roles and how they've shaped our expectations of comedy. We're peeling back the layers of each scene, from the wild wedding fiasco to the honeymoon havoc, all while asking ourselves how the jokes have aged in today's shifting comedic landscape.
Diving deeper, we put the spotlight on the portrayal of men in relationships, particularly when they're on the receiving end of abuse. It's a no-holds-barred discussion as we challenge societal expectations and stereotypes, shining a light on why self-worth and independence are crucial before diving heart-first into love. We also get candid about the need for a partner who's your cheerleader and critic rolled into one – because let's face it, sunshine and rainbows don't make a relationship grow. The meat of this chat? How vital clear communication is, and why understanding the difference between support and suppression can make or break your love life.
To close, we'll have you in stitches again as we ride along Norbit's metaphorical bike journey of personal growth and how his community becomes the unexpected wind beneath his wings. We take a nostalgic trip through the evolution of comedy, touching on the works of legends like Redd Foxx and the cultural sensitivities that have reshaped what tickles our funny bones. Wrapping up with our nearly perfect ratings for 'Norbit', we invite you to revel in its classic charm, tease the possibility of even greater laughs in unseen footage, and encourage you to stay connected for more nostalgic trips and insightful banter that's sure to keep you nerdy and entertained.
Text us for feedback and recommendations for future episodes!
We thank everyone for listening to our podcast! We hope to grow even bigger to make great things happen, such as new equipment for higher-quality podcasts, a merch store & more! If you're interested in supporting us, giving us feedback and staying in the loop with updates, then follow our ZONE Social Media Portal!
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What's good nerds? It's time for another review on the zone podcast. Today's review is Norbit. And before we get into it but Gassu, we gotta do the thing. Love and nerdiness. Something that can make you do wrong. Make it do right.
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Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:Is this the thing? Yeah that was yeah that was. Okay.
Speaker 1:It's just something funny to do.
Speaker 3:Mr Superman out here.
Speaker 1:But, um, alright, review time for real this time. Norbit, I say this one, those funny movies that just survive a set of times where I can always go back and watch Norman crack up every now and again with some of the things. That goes on Like the main thing was you have in boiling spring, tennessee. You have childhood friends, norbit and Kate. They live at the orphanage that doubles as a Chinese restaurant called the golden, one time on by Dr Wong I'm not Dr Mr Wong, my bad, I keep thinking Dr Wong for fucking Rick and Morty. And then they also play, marry each other with Ring Pop. But they got separated when Kate got adopted two weeks later. So it was kind of a short little thing. And then, mixing, you know, five years after that, uh, restutious, shows up um, saving Norbit from these um twin bullies and just muscle her way into being his girlfriend, um, but she some finds out that, um, yeah, she's like real Sadistic, arrogant stuff, was orb and tyrannical.
Speaker 2:Let's be honest, he was not no saved, he was trade from one hill. So, what happened to him.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no, he got bullied into relationship, like when you really now see, here's another thing. I just don't understand the attract like from rescues point of view, to where it's like there was just nothing Norbit did. That was like, okay, I can kind of see that they're going to be a couple, but it was like it was just one of those things where it's like just came out and nowhere is like what reason that he had to even save Norbit from those bullies and then be like, hey, you're a good friend, well, you do need a little bit. I don't know.
Speaker 2:You said it exactly. What is the thing that you did to get it? It's not. It's what he didn't do. Keeping my arms to this. Does Norbit stand up for himself? No, Is resbutia like people who stand up for themselves?
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, I see. Well, that's what happened. Essentially, you know they marry each other. Resbutia starts insulting and controlling him, accusing him of a judge. I see what he did there is the car she was like it's science. I swear to God, it's not science. I tell them science. Hit him in the face. I'm like man. I'm sorry, but did we thought that part was funny to where he was like getting abused and shit, but I hope not we did.
Speaker 2:We did as we shown them did. We laughed. We laughed at that, thought that that was all good and funny. We shown them did. It's kind of so different now.
Speaker 3:I don't know what to let me out for a second, but I'm back and I'm back, okay.
Speaker 1:You didn't miss much. We were just talking about how the part where resbutia gets mad at Norbit about adjusting that car seat.
Speaker 2:And then like damn their part, and then they even damn that she breaks it.
Speaker 3:Bro, the best part the best part in the beginning is when they got married.
Speaker 1:Oh honey.
Speaker 3:Hey, you know, they okay, Bro no.
Speaker 1:I like how, I like who won with on giving his feet and like why do you marry Grue?
Speaker 2:Oh, I know, the main thing for me is the fact I have to give Eddie Murphy like major props for his range, because I promise you, it wasn't until, like I think I think I haven't just like so many years ago, like years after I watched that movie, that I found out that Mr Wayne was actually played by Eddie Murphy himself also, and I was like what?
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Sure. I love you, I love you.
Speaker 3:And I love the fact that you have all the characters, which is cool. That another person in there played a whole bunch of characters in a separate movie, and I'm talking about, of course, mr.
Speaker 2:Wayne himself, yep, marlin, marlin always. So yeah, this is like that range itself is pretty amazing, because only at the time you, it's not only at the time, but only the other most famous movie of Eddie Murphy doing that is, of course, the Nutty Professor. So it's like, is this the same Exactly. Exactly.
Speaker 1:I mean I'm gonna say that like it was a dramatic change, because basically it's not like he had to put on a whole lot of makeup and shit. But he also kind of did that with Pluto Nash, where it's like, okay, he had to play like an evil version of himself, like Rex, whatever Rex um creator or something like that, something like that. Yeah, it was like oh yeah, and Martin Lawrence doing Big Mama's house, like, yeah, like.
Speaker 3:But Mr Wayne finally did it. Yeah, mr Wayne, mr Wayne, mr Wayne, mr Wayne, mr Wayne, mr Wayne, mr Wayne, mr Wayne, mr Wayne, mr Wayne, mr Wayne, mr Wayne, mr Wayne, mr Wayne, mr Wayne.
Speaker 1:I was gonna do. I would rather die than suck players out and those men dast haha.
Speaker 2:Now I want to tell you the truth, though, like I'm just saying, bro, I'm like ohh, I don't know about all that, bro. Like no, for reals though, um, but yeah, we show that whole beginning sequence, the wedding, and then, like the honeymoon, ten dings and I to la da, da, da, da da.
Speaker 1:Oh, funny enough, they were doing a whole bunch of things like Christmas and like a roleplay of cops and robbers and whatnot. And then there was one with like President's Day. And, funny enough, today, upon accord, is President's Day and we did do the review on head of state, so look out for that as well, thanks. Now not only is Norbert being bullied by his own wife, but he's being bullied by her three older brothers, big Flatjack, blue and Earl. And, funny enough, I like how Wikipedia was saying like, oh, essentially all three of them are henchmen to persecution. So she's the ringleader of the on board.
Speaker 2:Even though she's young.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I like.
Speaker 3:That's typically how it works.
Speaker 2:But I will say I like how it started off. Dynamic initially started off the fact that she had all those brothers and so she wanted to be in the only girl. And that's a real thing too. When it comes down for a lot of like you know relations, a lot of like family is the fact that the brothers always look out for the girl. Especially if it's like multiple older brothers and it's like one daughter, one girl, they always be looking out. They're like you know, you can't, can't, mess with my sister, but I'm got my sister back, got my sister back, but resubstantially, like that shit gets in her head. She immediately was like and I'm now top dog.
Speaker 3:I'm now. I got two sisters and you know what I mean. We do the fan bag three boys.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah it's kind of like that with my own siblings, where I have an older brother, an older sister and a younger sister. But I mean, of course we'll sit together, but you know, we can also pretty much handle ourselves at the same time.
Speaker 2:But still, it's just one of those things, like you know, just being brother, you got to just feel that urge to protect, like that, just like a natural thing that comes to you, like what. So I can even look out for you.
Speaker 3:I just have to have a sister complex like a lot of anime characters. You don't do that Like old buddy from Black Clover with the mirrors, oh yeah, but he has a nosebleed every time you see a picture.
Speaker 2:Look, I'm already like talking ahead about this review. I'm gonna do one of this series, ones of ending, but this is one little and one anime. I told you I'm watching tales of wedding rings. Tuck, if you haven't checked it out, you have a surprise. But, bro, I have watched it. Okay, so you understand what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:So three or four or five anime.
Speaker 2:Okay, well, you should. So pretty much you should. If you're at episode three, you already know what this is. I just met the elf girl, Okay, so oh, no, no, no, no no, I met the elf girl and, oh my God, the old lady, yeah, yeah, okay, when I talk about her, the brother, oh yeah, the brother be trippin. You don't need that type of this, is fine though.
Speaker 3:But he need to be talking to the chief, the old chief lady Boy Boy and she talking about, she trying to see what humans talking about, hmm, boy. That's the last episode I watched too.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, so you got a little bit of catch up on it still, but yeah, you did just that brother complex. It hits hard, but you just there's a too much as well. People just don't go too far, like understand, respect that your siblings have privacy and have lives of their own. You can protect them when you're there but at the same time let them live their lives. That's just the real thing, right.
Speaker 1:And here's one of my favorite scenes in the movie, when the Lattimore brothers keep in mind that they run a quote unquote security business where they basically extort the whole community except Mr Wong, where they're trying to buy the golden wand con and make it into this strip joint. It's named Niflopolis and the main thing was that's a great name. Yeah.
Speaker 3:I would definitely go.
Speaker 1:Now, not only did Mr Wong refuse to sell the golden wand con tool, but he took that offer that they conspired to him, wiped his ass with it and they were all right, it's cool time. And then he jumped up on that table with that spear and he was telling Linlin, get my pistol.
Speaker 3:That's a fake one. That's a good, that's a good scene.
Speaker 1:man, that was not expecting that, but I never said a lot of more, never, ever.
Speaker 2:Oh, I mean, sometimes you got to be just like that, especially when you dealing with resbutia family. They were bullies to everybody. They bullied every free buy, like literally. They like no, I'm not going to let you deal with me like that, but Absolutely not.
Speaker 3:Hey, this may be controversial, but Kate wasn't hitting like that. You mean no, I mean in the baby mama. Why?
Speaker 2:I mean yeah, that's, that's fair.
Speaker 3:It wasn't hitting like that, bro, I mean, resbutia wasn't either, but what?
Speaker 2:about the same. I'm like, I mean really interested in resbutia, I mean that's between the two.
Speaker 3:of course, kate, but like I don't know, Resbutia was role playing and everything, bro. Yeah, my boy Norbert had options, though.
Speaker 1:OK, no, you know what this brings me to one of my main points. Like fuck it, I'm just going to get it right into it. I know we're kind of jumping. But this brings me to my main point of doing the Norbert review. I love how, when Kate comes back into the picture and Norbert and Kate was hanging out with each other behind resbutia's back, dating and whatnot, the whole town was in on it and they were encouraging it. So it was like you know. You know, not even technically, but Norbert was practically cheating on resbutia, even though resbutia was cheating on him.
Speaker 1:Obviously, buster Perkin Powered that to be, but no, the whole town was in on it and they were like, acting like it was nothing, because I was like bro, the way they saw it it was like, hey, man, this is a healthier relationship, so I'm like we're rooting for, even when they were at the restaurant. So the Italian guys, they were like, hey, he's a good man. I'm like, but don't y'all know he's married? Why are y'all like? Oh, like, damn, they're Norbert and resbutia's relationship is so bad. They're encouraging the man to cheat because I'm like it must be better than what he's already into.
Speaker 2:It's a thing, though, when everyone knows, everyone pretty much felt that Norbert was bullied into that whole relationship. So, of course, everyone was like you know what? You know? It's a thing too. They not only did, not only was the fact that everyone was in Detroit like they just kept their mouth closed. They kept it a secret and did a great job, kept hiding it from the brothers as well, and the brothers were all around town.
Speaker 1:So it's like, bro, and the culmination of that at the wedding to where? Ok, here's the thing I just love how with Mr Wong? I like how mystical this dude is. Because first of all, the whole thing with OK Norbert is kind of like down as low. You know, it's like end of act two getting to act three and basically Mr Wong was going out for a walk on.
Speaker 1:It was like late at night and then basically he gave Norbert this pep talk to her like yeah, I don't really like black people, I don't like Jews either, but they love Chinese food. They don't go figure. But look here, you remember, you are a strong like warrior, you know some shit like that. And the second point he made was male come late on Friday. And I'm like how'd you know? He was waiting on a letter, I'm like you know.
Speaker 1:And then the second instant was when there was at the wedding and Mr Wong noticed that OK, the latter more stuff kind of school, they got to go take care of some business or something like that. And I'm like he probably did not overhear them per se, but more like he had a feeling that because Norbert wasn't there to begin with, it was like oh, they must have had Norbert locked up at the house, and then he must have bused out and he's on his way. So he pretty much piece all that together, based on the latter more. It's all suddenly leaving, sam. Oh, norbert must be coming. Oh hey, yo, the one knows way more than he should, but I love it.
Speaker 2:I mean the whole whole life. So they always let them on, they always leave like less than they know. They know more than what they lead on.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm trying to. Oh, like that one scene in Soapoo where Big Mama was like I had dream of fishes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's the thing, though.
Speaker 2:Like, here's the thing, because one of the biggest thing about it and I realized as I was younger, I already kind of believed anyway, but I believe that more as I got older old people with them A lot of that shit is not actually made up, A lot of that shit actually is real. Like sometimes you just sit there, you just sit back and watch, like how Cat Williams said that he don't have to be there, he just sits back and watches and the information just comes to you. That shit really does be happening though, like on some real just sit back and watch and all of a sudden you're going to be noticing stuff you never, never noticed before, because when you always busy, you so distracted from everything else. Well, you sit back and just look at the nonsense that happens. It just comes, just know what's going to happen. You start paying attention to certain ways people look at each other and you like, let me get my stuff and get about here before they pop them guns and start shooting each other. I'll just get about here.
Speaker 1:But another thing I like about this film was the part where, after Respecial got caught cheating on Norbert with Buster Perkin, they had this whole argument and shit and Respecial was trying to gaslight to do in the thing. You're like it never happened. I'm like, bro, I was standing right here, I see y'all and I'm like, look at, you need to stop on an insinuation. I'm like, yeah, orbit, how dare you make such insinuation? Let me tell you I'll bust your ass, but you know what I'm going to. Take the example of Jesus hates Christ and turned the other cheek Amen. And then next thing, you know y'all, he was like Norbert was getting real mad. I'm like, yes, you did cheat on me and that makes you the queen of whores. And then, refusing mad, got mad chasing after and all that shit Basically just clocked the whole, clocked the mail man. I'll like fucking linebacker and shit. Oh man, fuck. I, bro like.
Speaker 3:Norbert didn't care about Respecial. All he cared about was Miss Dang Dang.
Speaker 1:From that picnic, you know what? Oh, no, no, no, no, like what's that? No, no, no.
Speaker 3:No, no, no, no, no, no, no. Who you talking about? No, but no, no, no who she was talking about.
Speaker 1:Oh, I fucking love the whole bear thing to where, OK, Norbert and Kate was hanging out while Respecial was hanging back, but really the kids was like messing with her taking her hat and she had that whole thing going on in the balance house. But soon she got out of that. She knows that Norbert and Kate was dancing with each other drinking her winecour and then next thing, you know, like go to a real oh, you think got booed. Oh, I see just what you trying to do. I see just what you trying to do. Man, it's so good. Oh, oh, it was like come here.
Speaker 1:I was like you thinking about creeping, ain't you? I was like no, we just friends. What I tell you about having friends?
Speaker 2:Hold on, let's talk about that. That's a real talk real quick. When you have somebody that don't want you to have no friends, that's a major control.
Speaker 3:Yeah, red flag, I'm out.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry I'm out. I'm like I'm too old for that. Yeah, I'm like you talking about oh yeah, cut off all your friends from me. I'm like fuck off.
Speaker 3:Some people just got a trust issue. Though it's okay to be understanding to a certain point, I'm not alone To have no friends at all.
Speaker 1:I mean I will. That's like saying like oh, sometimes like, if it's like no friends at all, okay, that's real bad. And then there's fun where it's like, okay, you can't have female friends, or you can't have no friends depending on what your gender is and or sexual orientation, whatever it is, um, but essentially you just can't have friends of the opposite sex, because you know, a Lot of people like to assume that even if y'all are friends, y'all just like, oh, just friends, go, end up just kissing and just having sex and just cheating. But yeah, you know what that does sound like trust issue when you think about it.
Speaker 1:I.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:Even being in the vicinity of other women, and I'm like you know what and then also people Keep mind.
Speaker 2:One other thing too is the fact the restitution constantly kept establishing rules for norbit. But when norbit tried to establish a rule for her, she did automatically. Came to this when he tried to say, well, you're not allowed to see that trainer anymore. And then she's like don't you dare think that you could tell me what it is that I could do, type of thing. That's a whole other thing at one side of the situation, like only you can make rules about what happens. But you can do whatever you want to do. But I'm very limited in what I can do. No, bro, be trippy.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah. And you know what, when k came back into town and everything like, oh, finally he can't get with the woman that he should have been with but, surprise, surprise, she's already engaged to this dude, um d on you then, who turned out to be a piece of shit actually. Like man you could, uh, uh, actually cook something like. Instead, you just got that deep chinese takeout and just thought, oh, you did something with that, I'm like. And basically he was just like hustler anyways, because you know like, oh well, you know she got money and like, um, basically I'm just gonna live off her, like I did with those other bitches. No, but and then basically all this trickery to where um Deon and the latinmore brothers were trying to trick norbent into getting k to sign the papers to renew the uh rest of the license and trying to uh Without the wedding from.
Speaker 2:True and I like how like that one seemed like very obvious in that aspect Like it's like we have something. I like this movie because it takes real relationship issues. It winds up like it blows it up out of proportion, but it's one of those things like sometimes these things happen and you just think that is wrong. People think that is normal. It's like this is a normal thing, this is what's supposed to happen in relationship and it's like no, this is really not. This is not what happens in your relationship. This is actually an issue like we need to To, something you need to pay attention to, so we need to address. Some things are not as Obvious as resbutia and that jackass and stuff. Like sometimes this is there but you're just, you're too blinded by love to see the situation, to see was truly there, or even afraid of moving on, because I think that was like one thing Like norbent wanted talking about that.
Speaker 2:He wanted to mention it because resbutia kept using that one thing, which is the actual tactic that is part of it is used and the thing about it is is mostly reported being used as far as like a lot of guys against women, but it does actually happen by its verse as well, too. There are men that get abused in relationships as well. It does need to talk about, because there's men that get stuck there and that whole aspect of oh After if you leave me, who else is going to want you? Well, who else will want you? You're going to be alone. I was abused spouts bro.
Speaker 3:I'm a part of the abuse by school.
Speaker 2:Fortunately, as y'all already know, I was too in that case. But yeah, it's one of those things like it's a real thing to talk about, it's an important thing that needs to be brought up, like a lot of times it seems subtle, it comes. That whole thing was like your manness is Majorly hit and it's like oh, you know what? You're nothing, you're whatever was like oh, you think you big bad? We'll find go be big bad out there and see what happens, type of thing. It's like I mean you made one small mistake and it's like, oh, you made a mistake. I guess I gotta leave.
Speaker 2:I guess oh hold on hold on hold on hold on, hold on.
Speaker 1:Can we talk about how, when it comes to whole battered white bombs scenario, it's like, yes, believe, all women like, even if they like did it to themselves, you know, um, like how some, some women would be so crazy that they would probably do some shit like they'll so harm themselves to make it look like you did it, um, and then, yep, that, but um, some others there was some other examples that did it Like they were trying to hit themselves, uh, like they kind of did it. Always sunny tubes, where that one girl marine was Saying like, oh, he's gonna threaten to call the cops on Dennis Um for making her mad at what, now that she started pounding her chest. And then Mack was like, oh shit, uh, that's from um, the marky mark Like that from the movie. Oh shit, no, no, no, we need to get out of here.
Speaker 1:But, um, yes, the whole battered white um situation. That's one thing. But imagine if you was like the reverse, to where it's like it's the man that's being abused, and you hear shit like oh well, you need a man up. You don't sound like much of a man if you let your white.
Speaker 2:That's the truth, because the thing about it is is that Most men is a damned if you do, damned if you don't. Situation Because it's like, let you step up and all of a sudden you're an abuser, even if you're not even doing that whatsoever. It's just the fact that, oh, you stood up for yourself and it became such a big thing. Oh, you're not letting her do anything, you kind of take control. You're not letting her live her life, you're abusing her, you're taking control, you're doing this.
Speaker 1:Oh, you're gonna call the cops on me. What kind of bitch made shit of that.
Speaker 2:Why? And it's like oh, you can't handle this yourself. So you know what? Let me stop.
Speaker 1:I'm like man, you can't like see that's. I'm sorry, I know I'm in a dangerous territory, but, um, this is kind of like what the narrative is, where it's like you're the, you're the bad guy. No matter what you do, you're always that fall. I'm always the problem.
Speaker 3:That's why I always say trust all women, believe all proof.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna say, and the main thing is, it's very true in the aspect of love yourself before being into a relationship If you base your relationship, you base your love of yourself based on how somebody else loves you.
Speaker 3:It ain't gonna work If you feel self you can't have a love for others that's the fact.
Speaker 1:So, no, no, hold on. And also let me tack on to that Stop treating your partner like an accessory to where it's like oh, you got this one person that's sometimes supposed to make you feel better about yourself because you're able to pull this one person.
Speaker 1:It's like you barely have a personality yourself but you're thinking like, oh well, because you know, um, my relationship is, um, my whole, uh, the culmination of my existence. Where it's like you're making co-dependency the one thing that makes you worth anything to. Where it's like you don't have a sense of self-worth, it's like you're literally depending on your partner to give you worth.
Speaker 2:It's a hard thing and it's an easy thing to get wrapped into, because when you find yourself finding what you believe to be love Because one thing I understand about love is that love doesn't give you everything you want it gives you everything you need and that's a difficult thing to comprehend Because a lot of times you'll find up getting everything that you want and you automatically think, oh, I'm in love, oh, this person gave me everything I needed. I'm in love, and it's like everything I wanted, I'm in love and stuff, and it's like, but that wasn't everything you need. You know, not every yes, like having a yes man ain't going to help you. You know you need someone. Somebody has your back. That means they're going to help you get better. That means they're going to kick you in the ass every now and then and they're going to tell you, hey, what you're doing is fucked up, you got to chill out, like that's the thing that you need for love.
Speaker 2:And when you can't respect that happening, when you feel that somebody trying to help you out, checking you when you need to be checked, is hindering you from your growth, then that's a problem you have to really assess. Are they telling me this because they actually want to help me? Are they telling me this because they want to hinder me? And if you can't find the difference, that relationship don't need to be there, right? Maybe you need to take a step back, maybe you need a break. Maybe you need a therapist to kind of help you see things different. Because if you can't decide that and you can't talk to your partner to help understand where this is supposed to be coming from and create a plan together and stuff, it ain't worth it. The only thing that's going to wind up happening is you just go hinder yourself.
Speaker 2:That's the real shit and unfortunately, norbin kind of stuck into that. He believed that this is what things had to be. You know, he wound up doing eating turkey ass every damn day. Turkey ass For real though it's a hard thing to understand into that, like your resbution would not take into account nothing to normal with your art, like at all. He literally tried to make it work, even though he wasn't happy. He tried to actually make it work and it just did not work. Now I'm going to take a page out of Tux Book on this one that we wound up doing on a different review. We have talked about some serious stuff right now. I do not want to have my mental going to a dark road at the moment, so we're going to go ahead and hop into some funny stuff. I want to talk about the water park.
Speaker 1:Oh man, by the way, before we get right into the water park we're going to talk about the water park.
Speaker 1:Now hold on, before we get right into the water park, let's talk about the scene right before the water park, to where, okay, he was going to go to the water park, right. And then the resbution called him what, not trying to figure out, and like what Tuck was saying you talking about Miss Ling Ling? No, no, I'm talking about Miss Thing Thing from that picnic, from the park. And then he said, listen, when the resbution was like well, I'm going, and the normally was like no, like raw. But he almost gave us up a way to where I was like yeah, I'm kind of creeping on you, but I don't want you to know that, but it's like I just like the way he said it, though You're like you just got ruined everything, like just stay home.
Speaker 1:And then she always did go with them. And then, like she was breaking through the whole, like you know those things that like kind of like water benches have in most of the parts where you go through the game, like have like this rail thing, and she broke that and she, kate, was up on the water slide, going down the slide, and then Norbert was watching, then resbution was watching, norbert watching, and then it's like, oh, so you want to watch a bitch go in a slide? And I was like, oh man, you do know that we have a way limit. I was like, please, I was 55. How you doing? And then going down that slide, I was like I was just going down.
Speaker 3:I see soda.
Speaker 1:She went down so fast, it was like a fucking cannonball coming. And then they were like oh, we got to get out of the way. And then she's like shot right through that fucking fence and then right into that pool and that little girl down there.
Speaker 2:Honestly even right scarier. Right before then, most of the entire time at the water part she always had that she had a towel like around that towel of those scarf thing that was around her waist and stuff.
Speaker 2:So right before she got on the water slide she took it off and it was like, oh wait, I will say one of the things about it, too, is the fact that, like one of the things that a lot of people look at it now is like oh, there were so many like negative fat jokes and stuff. You got to love your body and type of things like that too. It's like I get that, but it's also we might wind up. I don't know if we will talk about this. There's another movie where and I can't remember the actor's name, but what it is is about this dude.
Speaker 2:He was cursed per se to where whenever he sees a woman, he sees her how her spirit actually is and like how her soul actually is and stuff. So she looks like an extremely beautiful, gorgeous woman. It was because that she, in her soul, was actually a beautiful, gorgeous person, regardless of how her body was or anything. So she seemed like she was big and plump and overweight or something like that, which was still heavy. She's never looked down upon today not as much now, but still he would see her as she truly is Resbutia. No matter how you look at it, she's got a little hair. Yeah, show her that one. That's what it was. Jack Black, awesome man's movie, that nuzz like. But regardless, if you look at Resbutia, she's going to look the same regardless. She's probably more like a demon. She'll have it like who open the hell what?
Speaker 2:is that I'm like. That's the point. You supposed to look exactly like how you feel her to be like.
Speaker 1:So it's more like don't judge a bunch by its cover. But sometimes you can be ugly on the outside, in the inside.
Speaker 2:I mean, most people take care of themselves based on how they are, how they feel on the inside, so that's kind of a thing into it. Respecialism. Now I will say look, terry Crews was hilarious in this movie though. Yeah, this brother, this brother, this straight up like Hans again, none of the people still kind of like the dumbest one per se, but trying to be the smartest one, he like, nah bro.
Speaker 1:Look here, if you make my sister man, if you even make her cry, I'm coming for you, boy. I'm coming at you with razor blades and lemon juice. I'm talking real. You're in pain. Oh yeah, you're in pain. Welcome to the family.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, he was bullied heavily into that one, like just straight up, and then it's just like the whole and Terry Crews never aged throughout the whole thing. He stayed the same age throughout the whole movie.
Speaker 1:I mean the main difference was they had hair.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they had an afro. They put a little fake L-Affron on them little wings, but nah bro.
Speaker 1:They're fucking shooting the BB guns at the dude at the fair. I was like, hey, man, you try to let you done. Ok, like nah, they just want you to do.
Speaker 2:But I was so much they was hilarious. Don't like that, I don't know. I was like it's one of the movies. Yeah, if you watch it by today's standards it feels too much. It feels like they probably shouldn't have gone that far. It feels like it's because we live in Cantor Coast now, but at the time you could just just enjoy that. The movie was supposed to be absolutely dumbfounded hilarious. That's just what it was supposed to be. Don't think about it no more than what it is, oh God. But I will say this is still pretty interesting, considering, I think even now. You know I'm going to look it up, looking at it right now. How lit is this movie gets a 4.2 or a movie database. It has a 9 percent on rotten tomatoes and a 27 percent Magic.
Speaker 3:But, they got a hundred percent for next it's good. It's good I was dying.
Speaker 2:This is true, but look, oh man, I can't skip past this one little moment, though I love the fact that we did also have Eddie Griffin and Cat Williams in the movie, even for just like little sneak pits into it. But bro pop, sweet Eddie killed that one. Oh man, that was fucking hilarious. Just oh God, like why.
Speaker 1:Mom, why nobody Cow, when he can sample the milk and like, well, he bought the whole damn cow and like that's a special cow too. That's gonna be where the milk come from.
Speaker 3:Oh, he said. Hey, bro, he said. He said I'm interjecting, you can't interject. Well, I'm interjecting prematurely, but Balla Then.
Speaker 2:Oh God, ok, Nothing, that's how. I don't have anything else on that. I'm from Norbin for this one, which is funny as hell.
Speaker 3:But yeah, that's all I like. That's funny bro, Is that so?
Speaker 1:funny.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that's my wife sucking the jelly out of Donut.
Speaker 1:Yeah, bro Bro.
Speaker 3:Don't go funny, bro, Well who.
Speaker 1:Right in the global OK, ok, hold on. There's like two more things I gotta say. First of all, the whole dynamic with Norbin and Kate I thought was cute, especially with the beginning, to where essentially Kate was teaching Norbin how to ride a bike and she was being very supportive of Norbin even though he was like failing at riding a bike, but he never really learned how to ride a bike after Kate got adopted. So then you fast forward to where they meet up again and while they're dating Kate was still teaching Norbin how to ride a bike. And then at the end, at act three, you get to see that him riding the bike, you know, play the factor into the end where he was racing to the wedding and then he was like refuting on, the brothers was chasing after him and shit, and I was like you can't even ride a bike, you damn fool. And I was like, yes, I can because he taught me. And then while post, sweet Jesus and Lord have mercy had to stall the wedding with the musical number.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Tuesday, Tuesday. If you say Tuesday, one more time I'm going to slap you into. Wednesday.
Speaker 2:Told you, bro, I told you Eddie and Kate killed that shit. Bro, that was hilarious as well. I forgot about this one. I'm looking at it, no.
Speaker 3:I was getting confused with first Sunday bro, when Kate Williams said it's raining white women.
Speaker 1:I love you Right, I swear oh well, you better move the hell out of the way, because I'm praying for a Cadillac, I don't know.
Speaker 2:Oh, even one for him. Mr Long's like remember, black people run very fast, but problem run faster. And Norbit, that's kind of the race.
Speaker 1:That's one thing.
Speaker 2:That's what we remember, yeah, and they won't get some warm drinks. Don't like black, don't like you either, but black and you love Chinese who go thick.
Speaker 3:Bro, I was dead bro.
Speaker 1:What about that program? And okay, they finally got Norbit finally got to the wedding. Try to do the whole reveal and shit. And I like how smart Norbit was to where, soon as he got the results that he won on Dion Hughes, like okay, even if the paper anything happened to paper, let me just invite the ex-wife, just in case Plan A doesn't work out. So that was really smart on Norbit's part. And then all those ex-girls showed up and was like hey, I thought you were gay or something, shit like that. Like a whole bunch of excuses and shit. And then he's like daddy, I'm like damn what he said all those years. And then like every time you like, you like I'm out.
Speaker 2:Oh God, I mean at the very end, mr Wong finally got what he wanted. He said he finally got a resolution He'd be like, well oh is it this? Somebody just called me a hoe Call me a hoe yeah. And he said somebody just called me a whale yeah and a hoe, and a hoe. I'll fix you.
Speaker 1:Like the whole thing where, like said to the whole town, finally stood up himself to the latter morts. And I like go back to your shop, hey, before I kill you, do it like, hey, you can do it. And what was that shit? It was like some Mortal Kombat shit coming from Refuses, like the way she was like trying to clincher business. You know, that was first.
Speaker 2:Mm-mm. Yes, oh God, I think the craziest thing to me is when, like when, the dogs start talking to you. You know you tripping. Oh Floyd, what am I going to do? Kill the beach.
Speaker 1:You think what he wants. You heard her Ice bitch, bra brow Ice bitch. I was like she took my leg, Norvig, she took my leg. I can't raise it with my own. I can't even raise my leg when I piss. I was like I can't even hump. No more, norvig, I've been with my thing.
Speaker 2:Oh look, regardless of how people rate the movie bad, I'm like, oh my God, it's horrible. Just crude jokes and things like that. You know what? Let's be real here. One of the biggest things that set Eddie Murphy off was what was the one stand up comedy? That one stand up? Well, he said nothing but absolute dog wrong shit, and it was funny as hell.
Speaker 1:Well, hold on which one you talking about, because if it was Delirious, like fuck. Yeah, I was talking with Delirious.
Speaker 2:Delirious. I think the funniest thing about it is the fact that he literally just closed it on Red's entire stand up, said it exactly as it was, word for word. It's still one of the livery it might, hilariously, and it's just like. I mean, red Fox is an absolute legend, like absolute, like don't even care. But yeah, delirious, I think. To this day, I think what is it Actually? I think even right now. I think it was like last year somebody said something and you wanted to bring it up, eddie Murphy, and his response was like oh, I don't give a fuck what you got to say. It said my stand up is still the top most watched stand up in the world. Like, no matter what, it's still better than most movies and shit too.
Speaker 1:I mean, yeah, he would be a little offensive to the gay community and whatnot, but for the most part I'm not going to discount the whole special over some jokes. It's more like I didn't care for some jokes, but most of it was real funny.
Speaker 2:And also think about the time period right now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that was like in the 80s.
Speaker 2:And it was OK to say. In fact, that was what was funny was to say stuff like that.
Speaker 1:But you know how it is, Kokugatsu. Now we're in the era to where, oh, we need to be on the right side of history by going back in time and correct everything.
Speaker 2:I can get that. I can get some things to be corrected, but I don't feel like we even correct anything right now. I think what's happening is just wanting to cancel stuff.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like looking for something to do.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like also I know I wasn't on the space that we had talked about it, but I still have my little viewpoints that I did mention also that very good segment. I was like, if you really want to correct things onto this, keep in mind what they had the whole Peppel-A-Pew situation. I completely understand why it is that people were very upset about what happened with Peppel-A-Pew and stuff that was happening into it, but then people did not look at the original script of what was actually supposed to be there. They just like no, it needs to absolutely be reviewed.
Speaker 2:No, what wound up happening was Peppel would say something that he wasn't supposed to say. He would say something very rude and cruel, which is how the writers have always made him since he was created. And then what happened was, instead, duke got slapped in the face right there. It was instant karma. And then they moved on from it and he was not supposed to be seen for the rest of the movie. So it was like yeah, look, you're cutting, but you're cutting the thing that is actually showing what happens. If you're being rude, there was a reason. They literally voted on there on purpose to be like that. They're like no, we just need to remove the whole thing, ok, but you don't understand. We just it is a justice that's supposed to be here, but then nobody knew how this turned out.
Speaker 1:I was just saying that. So, in other words, you're not going to let him redeem himself?
Speaker 2:Yeah, even that too. They were like you know the bad part about it, and a lot of people made this argument and this is still a very valid argument. Everybody complains and like, oh well, he was, well, you got to understand him like this. He was like this. I said that's crazy that you're going to blame the character, not the writer. I said listen what you're going to say. Peppin' Le Pew is not a real. Peppin' Le Pew is a fake, figmented, imaginary character. All it takes is a writer saying I'm going to draw Peppin' Le Pew, saying you know what I was rude and when I said it and I apologized and I'm going to do better and then make him do better. Congratulations, you no longer have a gag of a man saying offensive shit to women anymore, does that not? Would that not fix the problem?
Speaker 1:Yeah but it just feels like some folks that's in these industries they're just at like, they're just so scared of what the fans might think to us like OK, let me play Kate the fandom, just take it out. I want them to watch my movie.
Speaker 2:Ok, yeah, and it's just like bruh, I don't understand. It's like I want them to watch the movie. Ok, let me watch and have that into it. Just to say this is the thing about it, because they have had some movies that are like I'm not going to move this out.
Speaker 2:And then, yes, it didn't help as much in initial box office sales. Then people finally got a chance to see it and it was like, oh, they actually did fix this, they actually did do this, what they said that they were going to do. They weren't lying. The people who actually were able, who did go see it, spread the word out and people finally saw it. And then all of a sudden, articles came out. They said this movie, even though it didn't do well in box office, did actually do justice by doing this and this, like they proclaimed they would when the movie before the movie initially came out.
Speaker 2:And it's like, yeah, we said exactly what we were going to do and they still wanted to make the money out of it. So it was like there's still possible ways of doing things. But yeah, everyone looks for a quick money grab. But I think we're kind of running through time onto this aspect and I realize I kind of derailed just a little bit, but this is one of those things in life. It's a funny movie that is meant to be crude. At the time it was obviously if you don't want to watch it now, don't watch it now. That's how I feel. Like Don't watch it, you don't have to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, nobody got a gun to your head about it.
Speaker 2:Exactly, exactly.
Speaker 1:All right. With that being said, let me go ahead and wrap this up with us. Anybody else have any final words on Norbit?
Speaker 3:Let me see it. Go watch it.
Speaker 1:Well, there you go. What would? That being said, it is rating time. Personally, I give Norbit a athlete bucket. 5 out of 5 stars. A certified hood romance.
Speaker 3:That's a fact. I second that notion.
Speaker 1:Cook, I see anything you want to add on.
Speaker 2:I say four, I'm going to just leave it at a four. Yeah, I don't expect it. It is definitely a certified classic. On to it. Am I going to rate it higher than how I've rated it higher than some of the other movies I've rated it for? That probably was really close to a five. No, just being honest on to that, but it was still funny. It was still absolutely like the dog shit. Hilarious, I agree. So I guess an agreement that comes to what? A 4.7? It's a damn near still a 5. It's a ruling anyway.
Speaker 1:I just think it's like the fact that it's one of those movies where I actually don't mind rewatching it multiple times. It's like OK, the plot is simple to understand and the characters well, not all characters, but most of the characters where it's like they're like bored or at least like OK. There's something to mention about some of these characters. Music was OK.
Speaker 2:Visual would have probably put a file for me if we had more of Lord. Have mercy and hope Jesus.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know what? Yeah, I see, sometimes I wonder if there was like an uncut version where there was like more deleted scenes and like if we had some of that, then yeah, it would probably be better.
Speaker 2:But those, those deleted scenes, when you can find it on some movie and stuff right now, even just looking up on pretty much on YouTube now.
Speaker 1:So yeah, Honestly, I would say four from a credit point of view, but I would still say five because nostalgia is like still just pretty much holds up in my opinion. So there, I mean, what is? It came out like 2007.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so it's like almost 20 years ago, so you know 16 years as a week or two ago, look at that Looks like you finally got his cat like as his first car, finally old enough to get their car, sweet 16.
Speaker 1:All right. With that being said, we're going to go ahead and wrap this up. You already know the drill. Ladies and gentlemen, follow us on social media if you will, and believe me, we are building up, so stay nerdy and stay tuned. We got great things coming and we are zoning out.