A bittersweet conclusion of "Disenchantment," where laughter intermingles with tears and tales of growth captivate the soul. This episode is a tribute, a critique, and an exploration of the final chapters of our beloved characters from Dreamland. We share anecdotes of personal growth mirrored in Elfo's mature handling of heartache and Miri's rise to power, offering a treasure trove of insights into their emotional odysseys.
As we farewell this enchanting saga, our discussion spirals into the philosophical realms, with special guests adding depth to conversations about destiny, challenging divine logic, and the acceptance of loss. We dissect the fabric of demons, kings, and the questioning of inherited roles, all while reflecting on the satisfaction of seeing long-woven storylines reach their conclusion. Characters are not just names but symbols of our own struggles with identity, rebellion, and contentment outside of societal expectations.
Finally, we unravel the magic and mysteries that have held us spellbound, contemplating the true nature of mermaids and the complexities of magical lore within the show's universe. Controversial character rewrites, the fate of immortals, and the pursuit of personal happiness are all teased apart with a mix of critical eye and fond nostalgia. Join us for an episode that transcends mere entertainment, urging you to ponder the grand tapestry of fate, time, and the choices that lead us to our own version of happily ever after.
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A bittersweet conclusion of "Disenchantment," where laughter intermingles with tears and tales of growth captivate the soul. This episode is a tribute, a critique, and an exploration of the final chapters of our beloved characters from Dreamland. We share anecdotes of personal growth mirrored in Elfo's mature handling of heartache and Miri's rise to power, offering a treasure trove of insights into their emotional odysseys.
As we farewell this enchanting saga, our discussion spirals into the philosophical realms, with special guests adding depth to conversations about destiny, challenging divine logic, and the acceptance of loss. We dissect the fabric of demons, kings, and the questioning of inherited roles, all while reflecting on the satisfaction of seeing long-woven storylines reach their conclusion. Characters are not just names but symbols of our own struggles with identity, rebellion, and contentment outside of societal expectations.
Finally, we unravel the magic and mysteries that have held us spellbound, contemplating the true nature of mermaids and the complexities of magical lore within the show's universe. Controversial character rewrites, the fate of immortals, and the pursuit of personal happiness are all teased apart with a mix of critical eye and fond nostalgia. Join us for an episode that transcends mere entertainment, urging you to ponder the grand tapestry of fate, time, and the choices that lead us to our own version of happily ever after.
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All righty. Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to close out the disenchantment review that we've been doing over the years. With the final season out for a while now, we decided to go ahead and review that, so, without further ado, let's zone in on that. I'm gonna be rude y'all. I Dignit. I loved it, I mean. Here's my thing, though In the I believe it was like the first episode of the final season.
Speaker 1:It's where Elpo, when he was having this thing with the headless being body, and he was saying about how he wanted to be more than just French with being, so much that he didn't appreciate that she was, she didn't. He didn't appreciate her as a friend and you know the whole thing with being in more of having a relationship. Either way, he had to realize that he had to move on. But I did like how he came to this realization on his own, rather than having to do so the hard way. I did like that for Elpo. Plus, you know he got Miri now, who's the now queen of Dreamland, and I'm going to talk a little bit more about that because I really like that too, but I'm going to be honest with you guys.
Speaker 1:That part reminds me of a time to where I liked some girls well, like a few girls, like to a point where I could kind of see myself being more than friends with them At the same time. I always had this thing to where you got to love them enough to want them to be happy on their own terms, even if it means at the risk of not having a future with them. So when I found out that, oh, they weren't interested, okay, okay, well, you know, I understand. I mean I'm not mad at you, but you know, rejection still stings to an degree, but over time it's not even a big deal. It really depends too. Like, say, for instance, oh, if they were like straight up and like I'm just not that into you, I'm like, okay, well, that's fair enough. But when it feels like a slow burn, to where they make you feel like, oh, they could be something, but in the end it actually no, I don't think so. And then it's like, oh well, that stings because I really thought we had something special.
Speaker 1:But no, I'm cruel though.
Speaker 2:But that's happened a lot. Because it does, it hurts, because you think there might be a chance and so you never know whether or not you messed up that chance. Like was there a chance that I screw up? Like did I do something wrong? Did you have to change the mindset, or was there never a chance to begin with? And then it gets kind of confusing. I get there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but a whole point being that moment with Elpo and, very good thing, that being was listening and you know she had her dramatic entrance and was like being, you're here and she, yeah, she heard, the whole thing is like at least, um, it's good that being was able to hear that and she's glad to know that Elpo finally came to terms, that, um, he wants her to be happy with Mora and I'm like, yeah, because you know, even though I'm going to be honest with you, at first I did not handle those rejections the best, but the more it happened, the more I'm like you know what? I can't be too mad at you, it is what it is. But, um, I do feel for Elpo though. Um, but, hey, like the whole synergy he has with Mary, um, my girl, because you know, I remember I, almost ladies, I, I said you know, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I was like what's that girl's name again, and then, um, I remember, oh, we're like Mary, right, okay, remember, her name is Mary. Okay, she's not my girl, okay, but, um, his Elpo synergy with Mary, I loved it Like, see, the thing is, even though it wasn't like foreshadowed um that much in the earlier season, the way it fleshed out, naturally, throughout this season.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was digging that Um, in fact, let's talk about how a lot of things that happened in the earlier seasons was foreshadowed to this final season. But my thing is I didn't really catch onto it, um, at first, because you know you spend X amount of time without a new season and you're living your life um, absorbing other content and you revisit, uh, this enchantment to find out a new season or whatnot. You're digging the season on its own. But once you finish and go all the way back and you're like, oh well, you know, they did try to foreshadow some of this shit. So I did like that, like how, um, they did foreshadow how Miru was going to be the queen of dream land. So, to be fair, it's not like oh, that's just random. Like no, no, it's not they, they tried to warn us um way back. But it's just more like, if you don't see, hit the thing.
Speaker 1:This enchantment is kind of a cumbersome for me at this point. Excuse me, I'm sorry, I'm kind of eating, I'm just eating. This enchantment has became a comfort show for me and, you know, one of those shows to where you can always go back and watch it and it's like harmless fun to watch and you notice how some of these things was foreshadowed. But, uh, if you're more like, okay, I watched a new season, moving on to other things, and you're not like rewatching the shit, then of course, yeah, things like Miru becoming the queen might be a little surprising. I'm like where's the fuck this coming from? And I'm like, um, go back a few seasons, you'll see that they kind of did hint toward. This might be a thing anyway. So, yeah, uh, you know I'm kind of rambling right now, but, um, tokyo city, have anything to add on to what I said?
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, baby, I'm crying over here, so touching. Okay, I can't say I'm going to do as good as you do, but I'm going to try my best. I'm going to try my best. Now for real, though. Um, I get, I understand what you mean.
Speaker 2:So I was about holding up for everything it was. It was very, it kind of filled for them, and I can understand you saying you want to be in a comfort show for you. That's honestly pretty awesome. Uh, I can't say that really for me, to be honest with you, but I'm glad for you that it wanted to come in comfort show. Oh, the first, this like first episode of the season start off pretty well and it was one that I was like, okay, you know, pretty excited to see what's going to happen, and I'm not going to say it felt all, but it was one of those things that it immediately came. I quickly realized this show is going to quickly wrap everything, and what I mean by that is that you know, you see this and stuff like, oh, okay, it's going to wrap things up a little bit, but no, this one is like it's going to quickly wrap things up and that's you know, what.
Speaker 1:You know what? It's funny that you say that. Did you know that this attempt was supposed to end with six seasons instead of five?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I did. That's the reason why I was like, uh, see his thing. I didn't know that, like this was going to be the final season. To be honest with you, I actually did not know that. Um, so I went into this thinking that there's going to be like a whole other season that's going to come after this, and I'm like, and it was hot, and I was like really upset about that. Okay, um, yeah.
Speaker 1:Um, that was a plan, but with the writers things changed up. Uh, his thing. I have two theories Either it might have something to do with the uh, zack Afro strike, or it could be the coincidence that Futureama was coming back at the same year that Distant Champion was supposed to have his fifth season. But apparently it was like okay, let's blow us out of disenchantment and focus more on Futureama. And you know how, if you watch the new Futureama episode, there were references to Distant Champion under oh yeah, my thing is that they pretty much had to like condense 20 episodes into 10, which is why, in hindsight, I'm not surprised that even though the finale was like an hour long, it did feel a little slow-paced like, just like.
Speaker 1:I mean not to complain too much, but I don't know, it just kind of felt like oh, I was just engaged to the finale.
Speaker 2:No, I can see that. I can see that and this is why I feel that way. Into that aspect is the fact that, like I was mentioning, it really felt like they were quickly wrapping things up and I think that's the thing about it. You saw how quickly, within the first few episodes, we already started wrapping up what's about to happen to Steam. Very quickly we wrapped up what was going to happen to, what was it to? Not the circus, the, what did they call it? The Preccia, yeah, the Preccia, preccia. Yeah, I was trying to think about what was that called, but you see, like you felt how quickly they started wrapping all of that up, like it was happening in, like so quickly to the point I was like yo, it felt like I felt like there was worse development that was supposed to be here, like I felt like there was something that was supposed to happen that didn't and then, like it quickly moved on to carnival, to okay, you know the blue thing happening. It got stranded over the ocean trying to figure out how to get that Gotcha I can see how that's going to work out, trying to see that but then it's like very quickly went to oh, there's more evil puppets.
Speaker 2:And he's like oh, I ain't seen you in Uncle Bill's like we never really got an understanding on how that really worked out. Like, oh, that's some Uncle Turn the Evil puppets. How did that happen? Did I forget something? He's been such a long time since we've seen it. Yeah, yeah, you're going to forget that it did happen. So he's like what?
Speaker 1:Yeah, like see, that was the thing like at first, when I just got around to watching the final season, like I didn't really watch that, like I was until after I found the final season. Then I'm like okay, I need to go back and watch them, shit, because I'm like, hold on, did they? When did this happen? You know, you can forget this for a second, so you just sit here like every time a new season comes out, I got to rewatch the whole shit just like wait, hold on, when was this?
Speaker 2:The dangers of being gone too long, Like we talked about that.
Speaker 1:The dangers of the bolting.
Speaker 2:Let's be real.
Speaker 1:Oh, I know this is kind of like derailing, but I just kind of want to make sure that I get as many of my talking points out as possible.
Speaker 1:But just a little week or you know, maybe an observation, the whole thing with Alba to where he was gearing up to go into outer space, to this voyage or whatnot, and he ends up on the moon. But did you notice that as he was blasting up to the moon, there was like this one cut to where, okay, you see him going towards the moon, but then right behind the moon, there is a planet behind there and it looks all full light like Earth. Could it be possible that this whole planet that being in the other were in, were a different planet? Well, obviously, but I'm just saying like the fact that it could solidify the whole relationship between this enchantment and Futurama. But of course, I'm not thinking like, oh, this is taking place exactly in the same time, but I just think it's kind of crazy to where, oh, we're just finding out that Dreamland, steamland and all those other places. Oh, this is not like, this isn't like some fictional version of Earth, this is like a planet. That's like neighboring Earth. So how?
Speaker 2:It kind of reminds me of Rick and Morty where you know we wanted to have a separate planet that was like so far back in time per se, the one where they do Earth Like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, You're kind of breaking up on me a little bit Kokuyatsu.
Speaker 2:I'm sorry it's got this brain.
Speaker 2:But you would say I was saying that, um, yeah, my bad guy was like, well, we're at. Well, where I'm at, I got hit with a really bad storm, so it's starting to like mess up some stuff. So please forgive me, but no, so I was saying like it reminded me of like that Earth world, how there's some places that's just very different than ours. There's necessarily a separate dimension, but just like a separate planet altogether, type of thing. You know, yeah, that's what kind of reminded me of onto that. And I was like, oh, this seems pretty interesting.
Speaker 2:I actually did not catch that. I wanted to catch you, I wanted to find out more about that one when I was up, more information, because I could tell before I did not know that this was the final season. So I was real confused when stuff started wrapping up so quickly. So I was like I don't know if this was the information. This doesn't seem right. I'm like, oh, they did wrap this up, this season being the last season. So I was like, okay, well, that sucks, it kind of happens. So at that point I went into the mindset of understanding that, okay, this is going to happen. It's going to be a completely different thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, here's the funny thing. I think at least with the final season it was more like okay, I want to believe that the first season was more episodic. Second season maybe it was getting more story centric than third season, maybe a little bit more story. Fourth season okay, back to formula, kind of like a Rick and Morty kind of thing, to where, okay, they're going back to the whole episodic thing. But then the final season, like, okay, we need to wrap shit up. So, pretty much like you said, we have to wrap shit up and tie up some story lines and whatnot with the trucks and so thing was those and being the true heirs or the true owners of Dreamland. And, by the way, I did like how Elpo being a half Elp, half Ogre and Mop Mere being a half human, half Elp.
Speaker 2:So far as we know, we don't really know exactly what she's mixing with. She just knows she's part Elp, but that's about it. She don't know that. She said her parents left her in the forest. She was left alone in a changing forest.
Speaker 1:Gotcha. Well, you know, elpo made the assumption that she was half human, half Elp, so I would just go along with that. But yeah, you're right, she could have been anything, how, anything you know. But the whole point being is that by the end of all of this damn near everything that unified or rectified in such a nice way, like hell, even with the whole thing, lucy like okay, let's talk about Lucy real quick. How little demons this little asshole like okay, let's. That's just funny thing, he's not a total asshole. In fact, they even say so in the fucking show where Lucy was like telling me hey, I'm going to tell you one of my deepest, darkest secrets. I'm going to tell you one of my deepest secrets and she was like no.
Speaker 1:But that's just saying. It was like Lucy being a demon. You were thinking like, oh, he's supposed to be this little asshole that makes things worse.
Speaker 1:But in reality you find out that him being nice is that we are one of those things where, okay, of course you're going to have those characters where you're going to come up as a total asshole at birth, but then at some point they're going to have like these moments, okay, these moments of endearment. But they did Lucy in a way where it was like a slow burn to where you kind of saw it coming to where he was going to end up. Well, I didn't expect him to die, but the thing about it was that I just liked how, in the end, he ended up going to heaven again for the sake of his friends and whatnot. And then you know the whole thing with Jerry and killing God and all that trying to make things right.
Speaker 2:We can't skip past that.
Speaker 1:We can't skip past that. I know, I know I was going to talk to you about that. I was like, let me just finish Okay. Yeah, I was gonna. But the whole thing was that, with Lucy him getting the outcome that he got, I thought it was fitting for him. I loved it. You know All right guys, how do you felt about a whole Lucy arc.
Speaker 2:Lucy, I liked how things went. It's so ironic in this aspect Because, remember, towards the beginning he is a hired hand and his job is to make her life horrible. That's literally what his job is supposed to be. He did well, but then eventually he started developing kind of an attachment to her. He's like shit.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah. I remember that he was talking to God and he was like why? Why do you want to revive this mermaid? And he was like well, you know, I love being. I was like, oh, lucy.
Speaker 2:Why it was that moment of like damn, that's a whole touch. It's like I started off. I was supposed to make your life a living hell. I was supposed to torture you forever. Now, five seasons later, shit, I love you, girl, damn.
Speaker 1:That moment of vulnerability, I'm like, oh, I believe it too. After all, you've been through with her and all that, I'm like I believe it too.
Speaker 2:Exactly you do. You just know it. It's like damn. He felt so bad about it because it was imagine that point.
Speaker 1:When it gets to nature, that's a problem.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Like you've been raised your entire existence, most of your existence, to be like this is how things are supposed to be, this is how things are supposed to be, and getting that point of like damn, it really doesn't have to be that way. I can be different. And it's like it's a hard battle for you because you're like, you have this mindset. This shit was supposed to be like this, but now you're thinking something different. It's like what is that.
Speaker 1:I like how you said that, because you remind me of something I want to talk about with Bean. But I was going to kind of wait until later on for this, but you did remind me of something I want to talk about with Bean. But here's something where I thought, okay, this is something that felt a little hand-fisted in. But then again, I'm like to be fair. Are you even surprised that Satan have to be Lucy's dad? And I'm like no.
Speaker 1:Are you really surprised by that? No, no, I mean, I didn't think so, neither was I. So the whole thing was it seemed like Lucy had like stars in his eyes, knowing that Satan is his dad, and blah, blah, blah. But then again, like not long afterwards, you just go to show that yeah, you know, you're still a bitch.
Speaker 2:This is true. It's true, but yeah, as far as like how Lucy's art changed, it's one of those things also understanding that my whole life has been a demon. I'm the son of Satan, but I imagine the ironic shit in this aspect that you're the son of Satan but you got accepted back in the head, but your dad.
Speaker 1:We think about it.
Speaker 2:That burned. You saw it Like Satan was right on the racing names out the book of death, Like he was erasing a bunch of different names out across an amount of shit. He took that special moment because he was like he was done. He stopped, he went back and reopened the book again and then crossed out Lucy's name. Like it was that moment that he was like he didn't want to do it but it was like he's not here, my son's gone, I don't have. But at the same time let's be real how the fuck Lucy didn't know that that was his dad. That just really goes to show how much of a dad you were like for real.
Speaker 1:I mean you're a demon Like all the demons, like you would think. I don't know, maybe it's like the one of those things where, okay, just because you're a demon doesn't mean that you were, like, literally born from Satan, but it was more like, okay, maybe, like some demons were humans and they died and went to hell and became a demon, and so there were like demons that came from earth, but then there's like hell spawned, like demons born from hell and whatnot, and then, oh so, those special ones that were like birthed by Satan himself, and blah, blah, blah. I don't know. Trying to add logic to it, but I don't know, I don't really know.
Speaker 2:Don't know what's within you. That's just for real. Right now, the only demon we know of, as far as like by name, is Lucy, and his name is Lucy. So he's already there, in fact. Oh, you might be the Santa Satan, why? Well, my name is Lucy and his name is Lucifer. I feel like I'm Lucy the second, like I'm the junior.
Speaker 1:It's obvious, like it just it felt like, even if that revealed never happened, I'm like, to a degree, like you are going up against Satan himself. So it just kind of feels like you're either way, you're defying hierarchy.
Speaker 2:True, very true, very true.
Speaker 1:Yes, like you could have. Just you could have did away with whole Lucy, I am your father and it will still be like to the same effect. You're still tripping over Satan's legs, you know, with the whole thing, with the heads and the closet and whatnot, like it would have happened either way. So I'm like, you know you really need to, you know but then again I feel like, um, that was part of Satan's idea to.
Speaker 1:okay, I need to, like, uh, convince Lucy to be on my side, because you know you're the demon You're supposed to be on my side.
Speaker 2:And that's even worse, but at the same time it's Satan, so you expect him to do that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so it's like yeah, it's worse but then again it's Satan. So are you surprised?
Speaker 2:No, but it wanted to hurt him because it's like, dang, I revealed to you that I was your daddy and you didn't. You didn't come join. You still came out. You still went against me. Damn, but like, let's be real. He, lucy, said to himself where have you been at my whole life? Thanks for real. It's like you're the ultimate dead beat up, like the ultimate dead beat up. Now hold on.
Speaker 1:Speaking of, uh, dad, let's talk about Zock real quick, how he had this whole journey to where, okay, he lost the kingdom, um, to his ex-wife and he went crazy and, uh, the loony bin. But you know, he got out, he found love with Ursula and had bear boy and all that. And at the end of all this, you know, uh, having his final moment. Well, I won't say final moments because, who knows? Uh, even though the show's over, I don't think beans gonna be gone forever, but, um, once again, I'll get to that part. But my whole point being is that dog did have his adventures with being in this final season, which is fitting because you know it's only fair they um, after all this, he should at least have spent some time with his daughter.
Speaker 1:And what I'm getting at too is, after all, this dog finally realized that, uh, the same thing that he, his father well, keep in mind, his father, his father made it sound like, oh yeah, you just not cut out to be a king, you know, like in a kind of undercutting his confidence kind of way. But Zaw realized on his own terms that you know what, forget the kingdom, like he just tossed his crown away to that deer and started living his life in the forest with Ursula and bear boy. And I'm like you'll be, zaw. You'll be Because at this point it just felt like um, being king was more like a job swim than more than a destiny, and I really want to get to the bean for it. But before I even get to that, cookie guys. So how you feeling about the whole Zaw?
Speaker 2:Okay, let's be real, though we're going to mention Zaw, let's be serious. Now we have to talk about the fact that he was not supposed to be king, like he was. Aside from not being fit for it, he wasn't the eldest born, which is already one thing, especially in like old school kingdoms. During the eldest born kingdom was not yours. You were only the backup in case the king died, the true, the true fight king or true heir died, which is what happened. His brother died and he didn't want the job. That's the other thing too. Not only was he not really fit let's be real, he really wasn't. The kingdom was going into absolute turmoil.
Speaker 2:They did like they showed of that, of how it was back in his dad's brain, and the kingdom was much better when Zaw took over and went to hell. It was just not it. That was just what happened. So we're going to be honest he really wasn't fit for a king, but he didn't want that job. It was forced upon him and, honestly, that's a big thing too. I like how we can make real life comparisons in Jones, which I know we're going to want to talk about more and get into the nerdy therapy. Hopefully get that song. I know you got that in the books, baby Callie, don't know, but then it was one of those things as far as, like, there's so many people that deal with that, like you have to take over the family business, and it's like I don't want to take over the family business, I want to do something different, I want to do this, but it's like you know what this?
Speaker 1:kind of reminds me of Now, I don't think about it. Um, dave the Barbarian. Um, the way candy pretty much had to take over, even though, let's be honest, like I'm not saying candy is a incompetent leader. But I just don't think it's the role of the beyond. But would you really give the kingdom to Dave? But that's the thing. It's like it's not her. I don't think that's her thing. But at the same time it's like what other choices you have? I mean Dave Fang. Um, fucking Uncle Oz, we like you're the best by default.
Speaker 1:You're the best choice by default.
Speaker 2:Exactly Like you don't really. It's not really much choice there. It's like hmm, Keep on this, dude. They didn't want the job either. No, the only reason he's extremely buff is because he was pushed into that. He was forcibly done. He used his cowardice to make him stronger. Now it's crazy how they did that. Pretty funny, Um, but no, it's like really.
Speaker 1:You know nerdy therapy, dave, but we all need some therapy for real.
Speaker 2:But yes, for him is number one. Like you know, we're going to go ahead. We don't because it's starting to get pretty old now and Disney has tried to ignore it, like it doesn't exist anymore. So you know. But as far as we're on side, I don't want to give it to like this is figure out like he didn't deserve it. I'm not going to say that he did his best, but it's one of those things that I'm finally happy that he got his happiness and his happiness. One is a thing you don't get this. This is not that I could finally let go of the kingdom of so long in my hands. Even in his mind he was like the whole time he kept trying to raise beings, take over, and it wasn't like oh, let me show you how to properly run the kingdom. He did not raise his daughter for that whatsoever. He raises his daughter to be like just take over the kingdom, so he would not have to do it. That's all that really was. He just was ready to be done.
Speaker 1:Really, really, if we're going to be real about this, I would say it was more like uh, not for hers and necessarily take over, but more like uh, remember, back in season one to where he wanted to get her married off to unite kingdom so that way someone else can do the work for him.
Speaker 2:And then the backup would have to put me in the sun, but he was like my son's not competent enough. This is not, he's not competent enough. This is, yeah, nobody was really worthy of it, like realistically, but that's just, that's the kingdom, Kingdom of Greenland, that's, that's the royal family right now. What? Unfortunately, it seemed like the only comp the last competent person died and that was the brother. That was really good and I feel bad and saying that that's really how they came to that. But, um, so yeah, it was awesome. I get that closing was pretty nice.
Speaker 2:He finally got a chance to embrace his wild side that he was Cause, remember, he wasn't the king, but he was a fighter, like, he was one of the best fighters out there. He picked up a sword. He couldn't beat it down. Throughout the whole series you never saw that with him. It's like all of his fighting instincts, all of those were gone. He became a honking mess, literally.
Speaker 2:He was real and so it's like and he's crazy because throughout the whole time, you still see him trying to fight, but it's like it's not fighting the fights that he can win and then also, uh, now that's gonna be more so being we finally get back into the um to finally go back into the um nut house. As far as, like, cause Zod was there for him, he was just honking and freaking out, that was it, but there wasn't anything else there. It was mostly being that took over into that point. So but yeah, as far as his story wrap up, I felt happy that he finally got it wrapped up for two reasons. One, he'd been tortured so damn much but I wasn't even fighting more, just to be honest. And then, secondly, he's keen to finally get that freedom. You got a chance to go back to his wild side. His first wife and son now pirates and they're happy to live their life and he's fun.
Speaker 1:Hold on a second Second Because you know you think uh your first wife and son being uh pirate like whoa hold on. Um, yeah, yeah, I was like hold on, whoa, back that up. I know we want to talk about her in new ways, but I'm just saying for the record, you're not wrong.
Speaker 2:I was misinformation that second wife, second wife and son would be a pirate, would be pirates and live their life back into the ocean, because they're more people anyway. And he's enjoying his life in the wooden, his wildlife, having as much sex as he wants to have with his wife there and their boys, just like, oh my God, why he was. You know, he lives his life. He's a bit needs a talking bear Bear. So we got a quick wrap off and then it's like, yeah, it was sentimental. He finally like go to crowns. You kind of took all the sentimental part out of it, JP, but realistically that's just thing for me. I'm like he finally got the piece he needed because he has been tortured forever. So once his, once his brother died, he had been tortured from that very point and none of it was his family. He just got stuck with it and I said that's that's kind of far as a realized situation.
Speaker 2:There's so many people that deal with that, that have to take over the family business because another sibling was supposed to but something happened and they can't, or maybe another sibling's wanted to and you decide to step up because you want to try to, you know, be there for your parents and stuff like that. That's one of the things that does suck sometimes, Like and I get helping out supporting the family business, but you don't have to Like. There's one thing for people to realize you don't actually have to do it, it's beneficial, but you don't have to. And the one that you focus on oh, I have to do this, you're going to mess up, it's going to want to make it things worse, and that's exactly how it was, Don't? You don't want to be like that. Live your life, live your dreams. It's like, yeah, yes, you can help out your family, but live your life, live your dreams. You only get one life. She's real.
Speaker 1:And speaking of which, let's talk about Derek and Una real quick, how, with Derek, he's coming up age you got his little peach buds going on his very girlfriend Norala, and I'm kind of happy for him and he's going on pirating with his mom, una. And at first you were thinking like at first Una was like that weird step mom but not you know, but she was pretty good. I mean I'd be like, but I'm just saying like at first, first and first you're thinking like okay, she's kind of weird. But then the whole thing with Dagmore coming back into the fold and she felt like she was just getting iced out because you know, first wife coming back and whatnot. So she was like you know what I call this, so I'm just going to live my own life and live the pirate's life and everything. Then I'm like bro, like he was fucking badass, like really like um pirate captain with the fucking, um screaming at the fucking, you know that bullshit.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, but that's part.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and here's what. Okay, other than that, here's my favorite part with Una, aside from, you know, being genuinely supportive of being, and also the oh man, you know what, now that I think about it being had a drug trip with both her mothers.
Speaker 1:I was like no, I think about waiting a minute Like she was tripping balls with both their mothers. That's crazy, but I'll get to that. I'll get to that. Uh, whole point with Una. What I liked about Una was uh, aside from that, was the final fight between Bean and Dagmar, and Una showed up and pretty much did. A father, son, khmer, male lightning, and I was like, you know, this is kind of fitting because, you know, not only is it like Bean's part to defeat her mother, but also to establish that Una was the better mother in the first place.
Speaker 1:So, how are you feeling about those two?
Speaker 2:I can't say too much about the little brother.
Speaker 1:To be honest with you, he was all.
Speaker 2:I can't say too much about their. I'm gone.
Speaker 1:He gave me Bobby Hill vibe, but other than that I was better.
Speaker 2:I can't, I can't. I can make that comparison. Like you, yeah, but I like Bobby 10 times better. This is being honest Okay. Um, I can't. I can't bear it. Just when he decided to marry the pigs, that was the final straw for me. I'm just in here like hey, what the I'm like? I'm nothing here, but I don't understand. You're in love, okay. What do y'all do? Is it that small? Nevermind, it's going to move on.
Speaker 1:A micropeanot at the kids, say Nice, don't go into that.
Speaker 2:But for Boona, yeah, like everything you said, absolutely Like Boona was. Boona was my favorite character of the show, so I understand that for the brief moments that she was going. I'm sad Cause she was breathing. She was that person that called out DS as soon as she saw it, and she wasn't necessarily, but even though she was kind of rude, but she was explained, she would talk about it Like I. We've dealt with people like that before, who were rude to us in life, but I'm not telling a lie. Okay, but it feels like you're rude just for the sake of being rude, but Boona will actually talk to you.
Speaker 2:She'll call you out, say it, but then we'll actually talk to you and this is why I called you out. This is what you can do to fix it. That's my biggest thing. I usually like that's the thing for me. Growing up, I don't like talking about stuff unless I have a solution for it. So as one of those things like I'm very different obviously now to our guests Most cases I do have possibly a solution, or usually my solution is it should have just never been there, that's it. But the biggest thing into this effect, they're like that's the thing for me. If you're going to criticize me, I'm open to criticism. I'm open to criticism. I am that person. I can take everything with a grain of salt. That's just. I'm fine with that. But if you give them criticism but you don't have any support for it, any support for your claims, and you have no way of offering some way of helping me out to get better, at this point you're not criticizing me, you're just complaining. You're wasting your breath, you're wasting my time. That's just how I am.
Speaker 1:Now I don't want to come off as complaining, but it just kind of feels like the more you do it, the more it just kind of feels like this isn't even about giving me constructive criticism. This feels more about discouraging me or, dare I say, undercutting my confidence.
Speaker 2:Exactly, you're just attacking. Yeah, you're just attacking because you feel bad about yourself. You would have to case, maybe, but I am not going to be your punching bag, I'm not going to be your door man. It's not going to happen.
Speaker 1:So I can say I was up.
Speaker 2:Chris, but you can back it up and give me a way of getting better.
Speaker 1:See, that's not the thing. I can handle criticism too, but not to a point where it just feels like antagonism, to where it just kind of feels like, oh, this isn't even criticism. You, especially when it seems like the only time you come around is to criticize me, like, yeah, like, uh, this is mainly like on online. Offline I don't normally have that problem, but online you come across some characters to where it seems like every time, like you make a post or you might have a comment, whatnot, and then they got throwing their two cents If they don't agree with that what you said, and blah, blah, and I'm sitting here like so, okay, so let me get this straight.
Speaker 1:Let's say, for instance, I have like 20 hot takes in the past two weeks, and so one time, each time it is on the my state, like the state that you disagree with. So did you lost with the owner of the 19 or did you agree with the other 19,? But the one time that you might have a conflicting opinion on what I said, oh, that's the one you want to talk about. Really, really, I don't get that.
Speaker 2:Because you said what it is, man. Some people just complain to you for the second complainant, like I can't really, I don't know why I lie. It's why I lie, it's just lie. And some people just complain for the second complaint.
Speaker 1:Oh, you know what I wanted to add on to that when we did the review, but I forgot. And man, I kind of want to talk about it, but damn, I know we don't have too much time on this review, but okay, I feel like with Liars if I'm going to put you like this with Liars, I feel like they do it from a child's standpoint. Like, think about it this most of the time when we lie we're just trying to get out of trouble, like I've seen it in fucking school, where most of the time I see these classmates lying and being in denial about oh, they did something. The teacher was looking dead. I'm like I know what you did and I'm like I ain't even doing nothing and I'm like, bro, like how are you in so much? Not like, see, that's the thing is like back in the days, like what do you expect from a child? It's like they will say anything just to get out of trouble. And that's the thing.
Speaker 1:We grow up and you realize that if you let this behavior go unchecked, it's just going to evolve into adulthood to a point where now we just got a whole bunch of people lying just for the hell of a line, because they pretty much built up some sort of tolerance or some sort of stride and doing so. It's almost a point where some people are legit compulsive liars. They just do it just for the hell of it. So I want to say it kind of stems towards maybe somewhere in the past you just went down this slippery slope of lines just for the hell of a line, or maybe there's more to it to where, okay, you probably it's just lying because, oh well, I don't want people to think less of me for knowing the truth and blah, blah, blah, a whole bunch of shit. I swear to God I will. You got to review to finish, so I'll probably finish that on a little bit. So we don't got time. With that being said, I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 2:So bye bye.
Speaker 2:But no, really quickly as far as going up. And then the other thing about it is to like I love hell. In this final season we got a chance to get a closing for it. I like that. Now we got a chance to close up a story. I love that we got answers to questions that was in the back of our minds. That was just little things I was mentioning before about the screaming situation, like why did you actually scream when I was talking about that? And she actually we guys she has explained that. Like how do you feel when Zod's doing you just have these memories that she can't let go. It's like I'm gonna show you how I deal with that. And she screams at the edge of the boat and you're like, okay, that makes sense. She's always screaming because she can't sleep. She's always haunted by whatever shit is in her past, because she's done stuff. That just happens and so this is her way of calming herself down.
Speaker 1:It's like I'm just gonna Actually we put it that way. I kind of relate to Una, to where she okay, not to say she has a whole lot of masculinity, but it's like saying that masculine urge to just scream into the boy. Really, it's just more like bro, like if I'm not allowed to be mad about shit or I have all this anger built up at some point, you just feel like you gotta let that anger go. So sometimes you have that masculine urge to just scream into the boy to where it's like I'm not screaming just for no reason, just more like I gotta do so to kind of like keep myself leveled to where I'm, like I can't have all this anger and regret and all this trauma building up inside. It's like I gotta let it out somehow and that's like one of the best ways to do. It is like sometimes you just gotta let it out Like fucking scream go Super Saiyan 4 if you have to.
Speaker 2:I think Super Saiyan 3 was the longest scream, like that was actually still longer too than Super Saiyan 4, but like Super Saiyan 3, I think the English actor said he was like that was the longest he had held that scream for, and to the point that he said literally like his hair was falling out and shit.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, I was thinking more like I wasn't thinking like longest, but more like just revert back to your primal states, where I'm like, yeah, I got you, I got you.
Speaker 2:I thought you just meant as far as like the scream thing, because you just like screaming to the boy. My bad, miss him still.
Speaker 1:But yeah, it doesn't have to be long, but more like just screams so loud is more like you, just like you finally hit your limit and you just like you just gotta.
Speaker 2:Now also keep in mind we're not telling you to do this in a public setting around a whole bunch of other people. That's how you get the cops called on you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so hey, go to a secluded area, like in a forest of some shit, where nobody's going to be around to hear you. That's why people see, look, that's why people go on long drives like, hey, I'm just going for a drive and like, oh, I know what you're doing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, dude, get in your car, there's no one else in there. Roll up the windows and there you go, just scream as you drive and stuff, just kind of say everything you want to say Like, just get it out, like you can get that, that's fine. Yeah, that's safe, you can do that one. Don't go into the forest. Don't go into the forest, you might scare some animals and, you know, might not get found because you got trampled by a deer, like I'm just.
Speaker 2:I recently found out, like I recently found out that like I've seen pictures of how big a moose was, but I've never actually seen a moose in real life of how big it was until like last early last year. Some things are huge and they scare very easily. Like, when I say them, things are huge, I'm not quite six, I'm like five, 10, just over five, 10. And I'm talking about my head came up to its chest, that's how big that thing was. Okay, that right there. You don't want that charging at you in the middle of the forest at random time of day. Nobody finds you. You don't want that. Don't, don't go into the forest. Like car, roll the windows by yourself, you know, drive and just let that out and stuff. Let it out to a pillow, maybe you can ruin by yourself. You let everyone know hey, you're about to hit stuff and I got stuff off my chest, go to one of those.
Speaker 1:I forgot what to call it but, like you know, I call a smash room because you know those places where you go in there you get a bag and just go at, go ham on some shit.
Speaker 2:You know things are surprisingly cheap. Like 15 bucks, 15 dollars, you can have any weapon you want to have. If you don't want weapon, that's okay, Smash as much stuff as you want in there. 15 bucks, literally. Because they mash produce those glass, that glass stuff that's in there, that ceramic stuff, they mash produce it. So it's not like they have to go and get it.
Speaker 1:I was really glad that our local areas just had one recently. I'm like I might look into this.
Speaker 2:Business, that thing is probably not set in point Literally. Like you know, the purge was like, oh, is that this day? And like you know what market calendar I'm going to remember this three months from now.
Speaker 1:But yeah, point being, we kind of relate to Oona and that sense, to where it's like sometimes you just got to let it out, but I'm trying to.
Speaker 2:Yeah, my bad, I was just really quick. We did a coincide trick. But yeah, so the screenplay, then also those dark stories, like how you deal with that. She's like why do you think that's sleep on the ceiling? You thought I just want to do that.
Speaker 1:You think I?
Speaker 2:should shoot. I'm like we get these little answers and stuff like why she uses drugs, because there's just too much shit to handle, like how do you live life and not do drugs? I don't understand, you're crazy. I'm like, yeah, I don't do drugs, I do a lot. So I was like, yeah, I guess that question about why do you not drink with all the stuff you do? I'm like somehow I just don't, I just don't. I just don't like how it takes, so I can't get me enjoying it. I don't like how it feels. I can't get to doing that. I got to stay sober through all of my bullshit. It's that way. Yeah, okay, I mean.
Speaker 1:I wouldn't recommend dealing with all your bullshit on under the influence either, because sometimes it's like you would think you're feeling invincible at first, but then that high where it's all pretty fast like well, before you know it.
Speaker 2:Or worse, the high doesn't fit where. All fast enough. If you're still into some bullshit, you don't need to be sober to handle, but you're still tripping out. You're like, so you can't sober up. I'm about to do some shit.
Speaker 1:Right, but I'm trying to keep it moving. Honestly, like you would think, like with these characters, like pretty much, by talking about these characters, it pretty much like encapsulate my whole feeling towards the final season. But here's my thing I got a few more and I'm done. Let's talk about Dakmar a little bit. It's where, how, okay, the Queen returns. You know this from the first season. But come to find out, oh, she's evil and she wants to take over the kingdom by any means necessary, even making a deal with the devil himself and making her daughter go through these links to fulfill this destiny per se. And come to find out, oh, I don't even need you. So I'm just going to make a.
Speaker 1:well, not, okay, I'm going to back up real quick, because there's this whole thing with being trapped in her subconscious and there's like this bad version of her because you know, she had like this mischievous side of hers she always had and then that bad version of being tricked her and see and manifesting into the real world and all that.
Speaker 1:And a whole point being is that that more fella, oh well, I have this bad being, oh well, I don't even need you anymore, I can have her do what I need her to do. You know, and you know, obviously that did not work out in the end, especially with being saying or bad beings, last words, being, you're definitely never be this cool, but it was actually kind of crazy how bad being was able to use, like illusion, magic to convince being that she stabbed bad being but turns out being stabbed more and that killed more of a obviously. Well, not obviously, but Lucy brings more back asses by an old D, good D to being. But my whole thing is with more like I felt like no, I'm not convinced that she's going to stay dead, that's just the whole thing, like. That's why I was thinking like I was saying obviously, because I'm thinking in some form or fashion she's going to come back, like I just don't believe like yeah, we knew she wasn't going to stay dead.
Speaker 2:Just be realistic. It was pretty obvious.
Speaker 1:But I did, like that being did, have her grieving process and she was almost ready to like move on until you know more, end up coming back anyways. But the whole point being is that what that grieving process taught us was that love doesn't die. When you know I'm sorry, I'm trying to put this in the right way it's like saying just because they're gone doesn't mean the love is gone with it. It's more like they could have been gone, dead and gone, but you still have love for them. That's why they're told grieving. That's why that's pretty much the whole point of Wanda vision and most of her madness, where it's, like Wanda, she lost her brother, her lover, her fabricated kids. Let's be real, it was fabricated, but essentially it was about the grieving and you can tell that they really felt some type of way about these people when they grieve that hard about it. So, yeah, I was thinking, but I'm trying to keep it.
Speaker 2:Just throwing that in there. Sam Rogers Well, the whole Accused Ardor situation when she faded away no, he missed her. It was so upsetting that fans had to go back and rewrite that shit. It was like no from making it to where she comes back, the way she was able to be sustained because nobody wanted to accept that ending project. They were like he has suffered too much.
Speaker 1:No, Right, and I was trying to keep it related to Dagmar. The whole point being is that Dagmar would go to all these links just for power and all that shit and in the end, with the whole, with the help of the drugs, you realize, oh, the best way to gain immortality is to have no brain at all. So I'm just going to remove my brain and I'm just going to gain immortality and gain all this power and go and go to the crystal cabin with the same cavern that she took being all those years to try to train her to be this key tool that she needs to gain this power or whatnot. And in the end, you know, we thought that she was going to be killed with the impalement of the crystal black might, and she was even willing to use Elfo to get what she wanted, but that didn't work out.
Speaker 1:Obviously, whole point being is that in the end, she was recovered and they were like you know what? We got a fitting punishment for you. We're going to have you fucking hanging from the K, from the fucking cages, with freckles of all people, because freckles survive, by the way. You're going to be hanging there forever and ever and, oh yeah, you can't die because you're immortal. So how's that for a fitting punishment? Honestly, I'm going to be honest with you. It's one of those things to where you know what it's kind of fitting for her to get this punishment, but at the same time I think worse should have happened.
Speaker 1:I don't know, I'm like I just think it's like I'm like, ah, just the punishment just didn't feel satisfactory enough for me.
Speaker 2:But at the same time, it feels right. You know it didn't Like, it did not fit crime. This is really so. First off his thing. Why like that? Marma put it in this aspect here? Okay, we've seen her storyline. Do you know what we see in her storyline? Mortal Kombat 11. Sindel.
Speaker 1:Hmm, hmm.
Speaker 2:Okay, Long white hair. Once, ultimate power betrayed her husband for another husband who's more demonic. It's the same fucking story, bro Trying to whizz her key in a backfire and wound up causing her to be permanently encapsulated in some dark way because of dark magic and shit. I mean Marma.
Speaker 2:People are so mad about the fact that they rewrote Sindel in Mortal Kombat 11 because everybody was about to put Sindel all the way back in Mortal Kombat 3. I was like everybody was like no, Sindel, she got done dirty. Now we need to bring her back. And she comes back and she's the hero. That's how it was in that timeline. And then we got reboot on Mortal Kombat 9. We're like oh, okay, Sindel came back. You know, we got to play a Sindel a little bit more, come at 9, and then Mortal Kombat 11 still comes back. Oh, find out. Oh, she was actually used with this whole time. What Then? He was pissed off. That's why I don't like that. Like for me that I'm sitting here like you, just damn near carbon copy. The only difference is that, like, Shao Kung is actually a badass and obviously it makes some sense. Sadie was a bitch in this whole show. So, like, what was the point? What was the whole point, bro? She had the kingdom.
Speaker 2:Oh and she wanted more power.
Speaker 1:That's what the issue was, and I think it was kind of cute, but in almost a pathetic way to where, oh, when Satan showed up and saw Dagmar being impaled and whatnot, it was like help me, you fool. And I'm like no, I'm done with you, I'm getting a divorce. And I was like not like, I need you anyway.
Speaker 2:You want to know something. What should have? That is the fact that she should have got the Hedon treatment. That's really what should have happened. Yeah, that's my thing. It was like it was Shikamaru versus Hedon. Hedon is an immortal being. He was literally immortal. He could not die, and so the way they wanted to do it is they buried him alive. He just stayed there, even all the way down. He's still there.
Speaker 1:Oh, bro, like if I was in that universe I would have gave Shikamaru so much depth. I was like you got that payback dude. I feel that.
Speaker 2:Right, and so you felt like that would have been. Like you know what? This is probably the best way to handle this immortal being is the fact that little leave her buried like no, it's gonna hang you over the side of Tower where all it takes is and this, be honest, it's the kingdom of dreamland. This will happen. All it takes is one straight arrow or some stray bird Somehow being stupid up, or even just this, because she's gonna own you're hanging there for all eternity. Oh cool, is this magical like chain on this bird cage here that you tell me it's never gonna rest and break and fall into the water where she can get out? It's never gonna happen. You said the punishment didn't fit the crime. All she has to do is just sit there and wait for like what? A hundred years and then, boom, she's now free.
Speaker 2:Now I do want to say this the whole non-brain thing like take a brain out nine immortal was the dumbest shit. I Was the dumbest. Out the wall, out my head, if they be like on some of this. I'm sitting here like oh yeah, I'm immortal because I just we were immortal, because our brains were, even when you ate the moves, like oh wait, we're still alive and now we're immortal. But then this is remember what they specifically said that they have to do to stay immortal, but somehow another dad part does not have to do this. That's what was also a plight, they said. The difference is that they have to stay Attached to those fires for a certain period of time in order to stay alive, and that's fire thing is creepy. That was the start. Sevens, the lag light, so thumbs like.
Speaker 1:That was disturbing, and now you see why the weirdos on live underground.
Speaker 2:But I Didn't get. She's an idea that you want to lever. I can't. There we go. It should have been worse. You could have left her buried alive. Looked like it was for when. Back in my home. Now I want the force and then drop more rocks on her. That would have been satisfying.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, there it is, there it is. That's why I was like thinking like there is something about this banality, it's not hitting for me. It was like the fact that, okay, um, the fact that Dagmar, where it seems like, okay, she was gonna get impaled by that on crystal, and then there's gone, being in a una, everybody else is gone up and leave, and they was like y'all just gonna leave me here, like, yeah, you're gonna die alone, immortal, and he's gonna live the rest of your immortal life, trap and Prison of your own design. This is your car and we let, oh, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:It is. The Punishment did not fit the ground. What's what like? Think about this when she's the ultimate Evil of this show, the ultimate, in fact. All the world, all the different lands, not so much team together but recognize that she's a threat. And so it was like being had to travel to the other lands, learn, get these knowledge from these, nor to be able to take down that mark, like she couldn't do it by herself. We have the standard RPG Like oh, we have to travel to different lands, game abilities, understanding ourselves, a little bit more game knowledge, so we can take down a big back as we just find powerful and smart enough to do it. Yet so we have to do so. And then, yeah, you have this big bad. That's like, oh, I don't have Sarah this much. Let's be realistic. She was a white one, I'm just being honest. I'm being honest.
Speaker 1:You know what, now that, think about it, you know who did it better Danny fan, remember, uh, remember on black plasmus where, okay, jack found out that Um black was black plasmus. Of what night he felt betrayed and by his friend, and blah blah. I thought we were friends on black. And then next, you know, um blast game like abandoned and exile and Jack just said his final words and I'll never look back. I like right there, I like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah because the last thing you get to see before you get eggs out is the phone. Look on the friend that you betrayed.
Speaker 2:Exactly so. You like you have a satisfaction that you like they found, like you get the crime, get the punishment type of thing. It's like, oh my god, I want to commit all these murders. I'm walking through you cross.
Speaker 1:Your only friend, you deserve this punch ballot.
Speaker 2:Exactly. Well, no, we didn't get that for that monster. I just as it felt lackluster and there was a thing like that was. I know one things I just like I told you before I finished watching it, before we did this review, I was like in my wife said she did not like it. I was like, okay, I'm sorry here, that's I had put it off a little bit, but I was like you know, I should finish this. We gotta get some of you done so. When you hit it, watch it and the person like, okay, it's not that bad, it's not that bad. So like that last little segment, and I'm like the hell.
Speaker 1:Oh, I can't wait for the Danny fan of Ryu now because I'm up. Oh, I got a lot of love for this series, but okay really.
Speaker 2:Let's wrap it up.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, I like the back and forth Jerry and God, the way Jerry was Challenging, questioning on the way God works, I like you know God. I'm like I call bullshit on that.
Speaker 2:Oh hey, jerry like why you being so hard on girl? No, no, no, don't even tell him to chill, no, it's a real bite. Okay, you know I'm doing.
Speaker 1:Ironically, I'm like hey yo, no, no, no, no, let him cook.
Speaker 2:But you know, our dad will heavily in philosophy and this is one of the things that I have. All this is one things I appreciate my upbringing because, yes, so upbringing with my mom as pastor, like for her, it was very much. You know, we just trust guys. Just trust guys. Things is like one of the things that I learned growing up with blind faith and I never liked it. It never makes this. I was like I can't, like it was a struggle thing for me back and down and so it struggled for me being a Christian. I was so happy when I wound up, like I'm beyond, I left my mom's church. My mom, she's a, she's Baptist, and me I'm more open to a lot of different other things. I've had a chance to look at different stuff, but I also brush out some things other religions and one of the things about it that I appreciate as far as branches and Christianity, pensacostal and then there's a different form of that as well, not necessarily called new Baptist, but it's just kind of a little bit different as well.
Speaker 2:It is okay to question, it is fine to do so, and this is one of the biggest comparisons. Literally our relationship with God is the same as like a child with a parent and how like the Relations should be in that case. Your children will always ask questions, they will always question stuff and you really just you answer what you can, but also there's some answers you can't get them yet because they're not gonna understand yet, but you let them know. Hey, trust me, this is what's gonna happen. He's like give them an idea of what is what's gonna happen if they do this and what may happen if they don't. It's like I tell my kids all the time. So that's just the biggest thing about it. It's. The fact is like it's okay to ask questions and I appreciate how they did that in this, in this on show as well, too. Jerry kept questioning and saying all this stuff, but did God get mad at him at any time for questioning that? He ever feel like you can't ask me this, you can't question me, I'm gonna smite you, or something like that? You literally see, most Christians would do that. They will literally say if you question God, you're gonna be smited, it's gonna be horrible, they're gonna come after you, he's not gonna bless you, no more. And I have actually heard people say this and it is so far from all like an absolute. I'm not telling you to convert Christian in like that, but it's just one of those things of life. There's so much misinformation around on to that. But it's one thing that, no matter what religion you are in, it is okay to question.
Speaker 2:A lot of these religions were based on old views. Keep in mind it was okay to marry a young girl at 12 years old. That was a Christian thing to do. It is not a Christian thing to do. Now Times has changed, so it's okay. I understand Times change, things change. It is okay to question the past. That is how you learn. You always say if you don't like you, you don't learn history. You're doing to repeat it. The problem is is that people want to keep repeating the past over and over again. It's like no, no, we need to redo it, just need more. We did.
Speaker 1:Or, what was even funnier to me, they want to correct the past and be on the right side of it.
Speaker 2:Exactly and it's like no, you just need to learn and do the best life that you can do for yourself. That is really what you're supposed to be doing. And that is exactly what guy was telling Jerry the whole time. He's like things are going to work. Yeah, remember, just like oh, you thought that was bad. Shit's gonna get a whole lot worse.
Speaker 2:And then Jerry cook question why is it? You know you can just go down and do something and I, like that got didn't mention this in the show. He says I gave you guys free will. That is a real thing. That's something that's a big premise in the story that I'm writing. I hope would be able to get like the first chapter actually written and done and and hopefully get it out, you know, so people can actually read it, see it like before the end of this year. But the thing about it is that you give us free will and that's the biggest answer as far as like well, why the Holocaust happened, why did the like all this other bad stuff that kept happening at this give us free will? If he intervenes, we no longer have a free say so anymore. Keep them out of that.
Speaker 2:As I say, as far as a parent. I've learned this as a parent having kids. I have to let my kids make mistakes, because if I don't, what they want of doing is rebelling out. They get so flustered and frustrated it's like you keep stopping me, keep stopping me. I can't wait until I'm away from your shackles and I do what I want to do. And you know what happens. Okay, they do all types of stuff. Who's the freakiest kids in the world? Preachers, kids, so it's like. But it's a thing like if you so down down by rules, when you finally become free of those rules, you will do stuff that Almost seem unquestionable. You're like very question, like why would you do that? Because I was told to do not, to do it. For so long. You tell kids no, over and over and over and over again what they gonna do. They gonna do it, they gonna do it. That's just what it is. That's how we are as humans. You tell us not to do something. We get curious. We're gonna do it. That's how free will work.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I, I'm thinking, with that being said, that's all I really had on Dagmar to where, well, that in you know Jerry and his back and forth, we got on pretty much mentioned. That Did a whole Lucy or, but essentially I did like the whole back and forth. So I was like that was honestly I was like looking forward to that Whoa, I Won't say looking forward to those more like it was a refreshing surprise. Every time you get those scenes to where, okay, here's back and forth on, like okay, what are you gonna say this time, jerry, like Jerry became a favorite of mine real quick.
Speaker 1:But he only became a Before that yeah, that's the bad, but um, moving on to the final part, art. Last but definitely not least, I want to talk about being to where you know, being the protagonist, the rebellious princess of dreamland, and whatnot. Oh, remember that her whole thing was pretty much like her father, where she was kind of being forced into this life and Pretty much her whole arc is to choose her own destiny and that's been pretty much foreshadowed since the beginning. So I'm not surprised that, in the end, that being Having this relationship with Mora, like and notice how it's like she had relations with men.
Speaker 1:But the one time she actually fell in love was with a mermaid. So I was like, okay, this is good, oh, Progress up. And I'm digging it didn't feel forced and oh yeah how. In the final episode they played out the same way as the first episode. She ran off on the wedding. Well, not exactly.
Speaker 1:Well, the thing is she wanted to get married tomorrow, but not in the Traditional sense, like they were trying to put her through. So she decided to, you know, run off and just get a loop and Not saying anything to anybody, and which I found Kind of sad but also appropriate, because on one hand, you you would like to see her say her goodbyes to her friends if she's gone, if that was her plan. But then again, I kind of stand to where, oh well, it was probably for the best, because if she said, yes, we plan on running off and y'all probably not gonna see us again, and I was like, no, stay here with us. I was like, no, no see, I, I kind of stand that to where. It's like, oh, you gotta Face your own path, your own destiny and whatnot.
Speaker 2:And the only reason they would have been there was supposed to be the world king.
Speaker 1:They're no longer.
Speaker 2:So, being the royal family, the language just needs to be done. This time it's just let it go back to the Elg again. Just be done with it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean even as far as like yes, he even said herself that she's stepping down as queen because she's playing. Yeah, this never really been my bag in the first place, but, um, the whole thing will. Are you gonna at least say goodbye to your friends? You're gonna be running off like no, no, I kind of stand why she did that? Because You'll. It would have been way harder to say goodbye, but Elfo figuring out that oh, being ran off on her Wedding before thinking, yep, she ran off, but oh well, goodbye being.
Speaker 1:It was kind of sad but fairly appropriate, like Either way. I just kind of like the whole arc with beans where she got it, she chose her and what she wants to do, and that was pretty much the whole arc to where she Was being. Well, I won't say she was being used by Zog, but she was being position to be in, to be the queen and that was not her really choice, not really her choice. And then Dagmar wanted to just use her for her own purposes, but really I forgot who it was. I think it was more but or it was someone else.
Speaker 1:But essentially it came down to being what do you want to do? And she was like what? No one ever asked me that and the fact that she said that it makes it even sadder to her. It's like no one ever bothered to ask her what she wants and that's kind of funny things to where the whole time seemed like between her father or mother elbow, maybe some others, it was like they weren't really giving her a choice in matter what she wanted to do. But then it wasn't until she got with more to where she felt like, yeah, you know what I should choose me and what I want to do, so I'm happy for being in that sense, but what you got on being.
Speaker 2:That was bad. It was you said into it being, I mean to be honest with you Was the biggest story that you could tell was quickly wrapped up as far as this, like it was very kind of sped rushed up into this one. The only other thing I would probably say in this aspect is it wanted to be involved with official for to step down because, let's keep in mind, remember, was prophesied that she was a grueler and queen of dreamland, that she would lead it to chaos and rule. So her step down Blocked that prophecy. That was like you know what prophecy says this? I don't need to know. I know that was reasoning for it, but it wound up being the best, far as bright. Why? It's because that still was prophesied to happen and keep in mind that short period of time that she was queen, shit went back and then dad watching over and it got worse.
Speaker 1:So it's like and see, this is why I would say I will give major props to this show For the way they foreshadow things to where you're thinking like back in the earlier season. Yeah, they might be saying that maybe there's some truth to it, but you don't really get to see that play out until a later Seasons where I'm like, oh shit, you know what you think about it. They they did try to warn us that it was something like this could happen.
Speaker 2:I yeah, they just said it was gonna be KO. They never said it was gonna be her fault. The deal was always to get on with her fault, because it's like everything started from me. I think the worst thing about it, though, is the fact that how much she wanted being used and the fact that you know it was her mistake and she blamed herself forever. It was like it was my fault that my mom got turned to stone. It was my fault I was spielting for it, and so that wound up leading her to seek out as far as the situation happening, and I realized that, oh no, it wasn't just some random person that poisoned them. It was that one time that obviously was like a really big clock jumped into that, because she was like I can mourn you, I blame myself all the time, and come to find out that, no, you were evil to begin with, and that's a hard thing to have to take into account.
Speaker 2:So, when you look up to the entire time, you looked up to them only to find out that they were not who they, you know portrayed themselves to be. You know they were not who you envisioned. You know it's idolization of somebody. It's a dangerous thing, because people portray themselves to be one thing and that does not mean that's who they really are, like real talk. You could say that for a lot of musicians and stuff right now, too. It's like you know, like Beyonce, lizzo, usher, oh wow, kelly, oh jeez Still, but it's like you want to face it, like you idolize these people so much. Chris Brown, you idolize people so much and it's the fact that it's like you put them on a pedestal. You put them in this position of power over you because you look up to them, and when you don't know who someone is, it becomes dangerous and that's a scary thing.
Speaker 2:We're scary YouTubers, Exactly exactly, but that's all I got onto that one. You know, it's just that thing, it's just that. That's development. But that wasn't this season. It just felt like a big rush for being, but it happened. The saddest part was that she stabbed Mora, you know. Yes, she had to go through that growth, but, just be honest, it was obvious Mora was not going to stay dead. I didn't know how Mora was going to come back to life, but I knew she wasn't going to stay dead. It's just real talk. That's also one thing for me. What? How come she never took that damn necklace off a Dagmar? You know necklace was real talk about jeez.
Speaker 1:I didn't even think about that until now. I'm like you know what? I didn't even think about it.
Speaker 2:That's what I honestly like. It was my fresh guess. It's like she's going to get the stone necklace off the Dagmar and then put it on Mora and Mora's going to come back to life as long as she has that necklace that nullifies magic on. It was like I felt like it was a magical hot point that they was just dropped and it's like I guess.
Speaker 1:See, that's my thing. It's like the serum is not perfect, but it did a bunch of things right.
Speaker 2:True, and I will say also just a quick mention I did not like Mora. To be honest with you, it was one of those ones that, like, I liked her for being, but I didn't like her as a character because she was. I put in this little, I put in this an area. This is what happens. So now we can finish up. I remember when she was piloting the submarine and we could all just get off that was a simple mistake.
Speaker 2:This is what got me. Her was like everyone's, like oh my God, we're all going to die here. She says, no, you're all going to die and don't worry, I will stay here until the last of you drown.
Speaker 1:That was like the most mermaid shit.
Speaker 2:Because keep in mind, keep in mind how mermaids are. What mermaids really are in the mythical lore Is the fact that you are not these sweet gentle caries. They're not the little mermaid that we got from Disney. These things are horrific as monsters. These things are just as bad. It's not worse than Cyrus. They lure you with their beauty specifically so that way they can eat you, and they eat you alive. Sometimes they'll wait to die and eat you, but like that.
Speaker 1:Oh, like the freak show guys, where he was out hunting, he saw the swamp monster and he thought, oh, look at this little swamp nymph, she would be perfect for my freak show. And then, next you know, you see this angler looking giant fish, kazuma. And then, next you know, you see this little kid. I was like, oh no, not the kid too.
Speaker 2:He was sitting here like hey, I saw you and I just want to talk to you and say I'm not gonna get that little thing. But that's the thing, like that's really what mermaids actually are. So her saying that was the most realistic mermaid ship to say. But it was also that moment of like yeah, no. But then keep in mind throughout the whole time, that's not the first time she said some slick shit like that. She says it all the time. It's just really quick. It's like simple, you think of her as the humanoid part of her, but keep in mind she's still not human, don't forget. That's a hard thing. They do a great job making you forget that and you have to pay attention to the little side shit that she be saying You're like, oh, you're a lot more dangerous than I thought you were girl. See, there's a lot of red flags.
Speaker 1:I mean, think about it, it's almost like Mora, kind of is like the opposite of Ariel from Little Mermaid, where you think about oh, mermaid's supposed to be nice.
Speaker 2:Most definitely, most definitely. I don't know Now, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I'm going to get Disney, fuck yeah.
Speaker 2:Disney fucks up everything. But that's all that. I have to be on to that one. Yes, we got a chance to get good development for her. We did not get a full understanding for powers. This be real. We went from one episode where she was still struggling to, all of a sudden, she can now spawn light whenever she wanted.
Speaker 1:By the way, I'm just going to spit it out Kind of lame how their way of casting magic only the lightning. I mean, I was kind of expecting a little more than that, but whatever.
Speaker 2:Everything else magical is just literally fucking science and like Wiccans.
Speaker 1:You mean?
Speaker 2:science, yes, science, sorry, science and Wiccans, like that was it? Like people don't understand. Like, as far as Wiccans is, there's not so much utilizing magic, but utilizing the properties that come naturally of Earth, and so utilizing certain plants. Oh, if you mix this plant and this plant and then we fuse it with some magic, you didn't even use that shit with no magic. That's just what the hell this plant does Like fuck.
Speaker 1:Oh, can we mention real quick how I like the explanation to it. Oh, all the tears from heaven and the steam from hell combined create the crystal cabin. That's where magic comes from and how essentially they were even foreshadowing it in the Steamland episode with Alba and whatnot, where essentially magic is just science that doesn't have explanation. See, my thing is when you were talking about blind faith. That's funny that you say that, because here's my thing when it comes to that sort of thing, your client can be explained and demonstrated. Magic can be demonstrated but not explained. And then if there's something that can't be explained or demonstrated, then that's a thin line between faith and fiction.
Speaker 2:That's true.
Speaker 1:So that's one of the things that I loved about this Enchantment's where I'm like you know how I feel about it, honestly, I was one of the kids that really was into magic, but I'm like, ok, we're in reality, magic doesn't really exist. But then again my thing is then again I feel like my belief in magic is more stemmed towards OK, let's make technology so advanced that you'll feel like we're casting magic. You know how the different sci-fi weapons and suits like Iron man and whatnot. If you can build something like that, then I'm like well, it's not exactly magic, I want to say, but it feels like magic, kind of like Dr Dooms, where he has the suit and he is great with technology, just like Sonic Stark, but he's also a protection of magic and it's kind of like that blend. I always like that.
Speaker 2:I like how you just mentioned him. He just does magic, as if he was not also so sure of some cream at some point too. But no, just mentioning that. But I will say I do have a different ideal, I think, of magic. But here's the thing for me, I guess, looking at your point of view and your point of view would be put in this aspect If we could successfully do time travel, but not just a triangle, I mean, we could successfully do time travel where it does not change our universe, or I'm not going to say that, but it doesn't create a break, but it actually can make a difference for our universe and does not make a parallel universe of a what if situation. Right Then, yes, science getting so much better. That would be the explanation of magic, because that just means that somebody would actually illustrate advanced magic. And then, straight advanced science, let's say that's magic.
Speaker 1:Actually, I thought about that and you know what I wouldn't. I'm going to put this. I wouldn't necessarily want time travel, but at the very least I kind of want that same machine from Futurama, the probability machines, where I want to know OK, let me give me a simulation of what could have happened back then or in the future if certain conditions were met or whatnot. And then you're like OK, give me worst case scenarios, the most likely scenario, best case scenario, all these different scenarios, kind of like Dr Strange in a sense and yeah, I can live with that, I mean because it's not affecting anything in our current timeline. But at the same time it's like you just kind of want to know what would have been like if things were different in the past or if there was something that you could do in your present that could alter the future to your favor.
Speaker 2:Can I mention two specific things. One there actually is a whole episode of that very specifically in what is it Not Love, death and Robots. On Netflix it's Black Mirror there is actually a tie up.
Speaker 1:I was thinking, yeah, it's probably Black Mirror chances.
Speaker 2:Right, literally that was a dating episode and literally in that episode we may want to talk about Black Mirror. There's a lot of different stories, so we'll see.
Speaker 2:But, just real quick. In this episode you would put in your information online and it was a dating app and the dating app ran through 100 different scenarios and whichever one gives the highest possibilities it's going to be. That puts you guys together and stuff. But you don't realize and it tells you this, but you don't realize that that's actually. What's happening in the episode is that we're watching one of the scenarios play out until the very end of the episode and then all of a sudden you're like oh wait, this was just one of the scenarios and it's like it never is 100% correct, but it has like a 99.8% possibility.
Speaker 2:And so we wanted to meet a person who used the app with someone else and they got that 99.8% possibility that this would work out. And because it was only two times out of like not 100, but out of thousands of scenarios, it was only two times that they did not work out. But because of like, unless it went that specific, those two specific ways, they were guaranteed a perfect match for each other and some shit. Now I also want to mention this one real quick because I'm going to go ahead and get back to you because we're wrapping this up. We said this like several times before, what gives our universe is a branch off of a different timeline.
Speaker 1:And so we're already trying to travel through some shit right now.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it feels like it sometimes If you look at it at some point it feels like the timeline, like sometimes I feel like somewhere along the line we were going down this path and then something changed and now we just veered off to this. What some YouTubers like Issa Gunn was saying we're in the dark timeline now. Like for some reason it seemed like some of the choices we made not too long ago brought us to this timeline, when it kind of feels like can I miss your wonder? If we state the path at some point, would things been different? That's how I feel sometimes. I feel like somehow we just veered off to a whole different timeline now.
Speaker 2:Keep in mind that 2012 didn't kill us. We survived through that. We survived through 2020. You know, late 2019, the fall of 2020, we survived through that shit. Keep in mind also that let's just say what if we are the dark timeline? What is the dark timeline? Let's put this in a Christian standpoint and then we can go the different other way. What if? Because not so particularly us, but, like you know, our first great ancestors at the time, because they killed Jesus, is why we're in the dark timeline. What if that was not supposed to happen?
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:What if that's the reason why Christianity is like the most popular but also the most hated religion in the entire universe? Because other people? There are people who actually realize that, no, this is not the time that I'm supposed to happen. They were never supposed to kill Jesus Christ. This was not supposed to happen and we fucked up everything.
Speaker 1:Oh man, when you think about it, it's like what? Now that I think about it, like if that happened or if we never been down that timeline, it's like, man, you can't even say Jesus is crazy anymore. Well, it really depends on what happens.
Speaker 2:Like I don't know, and let's be honest on this aspect, here too, bc and AD doesn't make sense. That means there's like 30 years. There's a 30, 32 year period between that that Jesus was alive, that technically I'm supposed to not exist. So we fixed that by saying BC. But how is it that, going based on BC, we're still in the same year? If you added those 30 years back, wouldn't we be 30 years further, or at least like 30 years back in the past, if we added that to AD or something like that Not AD, but like BC?
Speaker 1:Keep in mind like well, I can't really say um way back, but then again I'm not even surprised anymore, ever since um that one post that said that, oh uh, check back on your calendars, like october, like centuries ago, and you'll see that, um the calendar, well, the days of the week was way different back then.
Speaker 2:so it's like, bro, like time is an illusion, like you're not wrong, bro, you're not wrong, but yeah, this moment we're just making still up as we go, and it's worth worth, ladies, you know but here's the thing about it. What is it? Um? Hey, I forgot who is the famous astrologist that goes around talking about um, he talked he. He talks about all types of science and everything, and people are all, is it neil de gretz tyson?
Speaker 2:neil de gretz. Yes, yes, neil de gretz, tyson. So keep in mind on this is that he actually released a video not that long ago um, it was reshared because he did this a lot of people. He reshared it of why it is that we have leap years and why they're important. And the fact is, you understand that the earth does not actually go around the sun perfectly in 365 days. Some days it goes around in 324 days. Some days it goes around it takes 370 days or something like that. That gets so many days off. And only way to fix that is by having a leap year where we add an extra day to the calendar every four years and then it resets it. So, because then we're like right back on on track as far as how things go, in a while back I did an actual calculation of what my true birthday would be if we did not have leap years. How about?
Speaker 1:my birthday was supposed to be back in april well, hold on, uh, okay, first of all, do you think that will explain why some days feel longer or shorter than others? And, second of all, with a whole thing with um, if your if that was the case your birthday would have been a little far back. See, that explains why. Okay, they try to do the whole thing with uh horoscopes where they're trying to introduce the um 13th one, uh, aphanatus, or, if I'm pronounced that correctly, uh, forgive me if I'm not, but my whole point being is that, okay, if we add the 13th um sign and we did it like that way, then essentially, uh, I'll be pushed back to a point where I probably gonna end up being like um, born like in august or july, and I'll probably end up being a leo instead of um bergo is that it's like it's very different as soon you line it up.
Speaker 2:Here's the thing that I've actually done. Like I said, I did a mathematical calculation onto that. If you put it that way, that would make sense why it is. You never truly act like you're a sign, because some people follow horoscopes and they're very big and says and yes, everyone, I want you to understand, this enchantment brought me here. I'm not lying. This actually has brought me that this is real point, so it actually does pertain to this, but it's something important to mention. You ever noticed the fact that you never exactly act out exactly like your horoscope, that sometimes you're like another horoscope, like you're like another or?
Speaker 1:honestly that doesn't make sense that's why I'm going with you. At one point, at one point, I um I got a little offended by people assuming that I'm supposed to be built this, that third, just because my, um, my store sign. So I was like you know what, I'm gonna act like the total opposite, just out of defiance, yeah, and then let's.
Speaker 2:And then look at that. Look at that. Technically you didn't act out the total defiance but you want to do is acting upon your true self before an impious. I don't. So we must be like being fuckface. Fuck, I'm fucking destiny hell. You destined to bring chaos, to ruin. I refuse to do that. I'm just gonna do my own thing like that. That's what I'm saying. It's okay to question shit. I questioned you and I get here. I love future ronald. I love like fricking morty. I love like I am a christian. I am, I'm, I'm, I'm a very I'm a, I'm a christian. I'm one of those christians. It's like, yeah, I'm christian and I I question everything. I question everything.
Speaker 2:There's a lot of stuff in the bible that I know for a fact doesn't add up and I know for a fact has been changed throughout time. Most of the changes that happen in the bible happen in two periods of time, during the um I call it the great war. But the crusades most people don't realize because they actually said it in history, for people quickly forget it because you know whether you want to believe a little bit of an idea or not, whatever it is would be. But they specifically said the pope changed up verses and changed up and purposely rewritten, had rewritten some stuff in order to make people feel better about what they were doing in crusades, because they felt bad about calling killing people and it was like I feel like these people are innocent, I don't feel like I want us to do this. So they rewrote the bible on purpose, to specifically make them feel that this was happening. You wouldn't tell martin voother change that and was like now me, everyone has access to it themselves. And then it became to the point that people was like you know, that's not what the pope had told us. Some stuff was different, but some stuff was permanently changed and can't go back.
Speaker 2:If you want to compare that to the jewish bible, you will understand. It's not just the fact that there's like three or four books. That's missing from our bible, from the christian bible, from the jewish bible. That's why the jewish first. On the christian old testament, a lot of stuff has been completely mistranslated. A lot of stuff is very different, but they're supposed to be from the same history. Keep in mind that they're supposed to be, but they're different. Why is the reason for that?
Speaker 2:In second time, slavery during slavery in the us. That was the biggest hypo christian. There was still christian in other countries, but they were mostly catholic. That is starting in the us then, across from starting in the us. Those branches came about because of changes in the bible from different parts. Because there was a different bible for the south of the united states. There was a different bible for the north of the united states. It was changed up in the south of united states to make slaves feel like they were supposed to do what they were supposed to do. Do you know that bond service is written multiple times inside the bible? But do you understand that? That's actually a mistranslation. I, like I said, I'm I'm heavily, I'm not a philosophy major. I don't go to school for this shit, because school will teach you one thing. You will learn something different when you go through. No, I researched this, I looked it up yeah, um, we did that.
Speaker 1:Uh, we talked about harry potter and they have blood friends. You know, I felt about, um, you know, with the book and all that, hmm, that's it.
Speaker 2:There's a lot. There's so much to dive into, so much. I enjoyed that and it's all of it. That's the reason why we realized we compared a lot of mythologies like viking mythology and stuff. Keep in mind it has come out now in a lot of people. A lot of the pope has admitted, or the current pope hasn't admitted into this. Uh, none of the previous pope my bad had admitted into this that the bible did change specifically to incorporate other religions. Like we understand we talked about christmas is the most popular one christmas and valentine's day. Those are not originally christmas religion. They were. They were not originally christian religions. They were incorporated in to help bring people in and they decided to keep those customs in because they didn't think anything bad about it. Those customs are still based on rape, getting drunk and doing a whole bunch of other shit is very different than how we celebrate christmas. Now, yeah, disenchantment brought me here, bro, like this is real disenchantment. That's the same thing that being always kept doing, being questioned, everything it's a grief.
Speaker 2:Yeah, she realized that something just was not right. None of this is making sense the way it's supposed to, and that's when a whole bunch of truths came out. Because she questioned things, truths came out. That's how you're supposed to be true everything is questioned exactly what I'm telling you is questionable too, because if we exist in a branch off timeline, that means this timeline, this didn't happen. But anyway, I'm done, I have to go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what she got honestly, that was about it. You know um, I just like to hold beans art to where, essentially, at the end of the day, she got to choose her own destiny, and that's honestly the best thing we can ask for anybody to wear. Like I said in the very beginning with elfos. Art to where, um, sometimes you gotta let um love somebody enough to let them, um choose their own path, like even if you're not gonna be in that, uh, that future. But hey, as long as they're happy, hey, that's cool with me. Uh, I'll just pursue my own happiness. And you know um, what was this? And you know um hope we're the best for each other, you know so it doesn't have to be any beef or nothing, you know um. So, yeah, um, if I were to close, as always, you know, I would say um, choose self-care, choose self-love, um, choose what you believe is best for you. Uh, as long as you know it's not self-destructive. You know, uh, I can't really uh condone self-destructive behavior, but, uh, as long as, uh, you're happy with what you're doing and, um, I want to say, assuming that it's um more high ground, you know like nothing nefarious or all malicious anything, hey, man, I'll let you have that. That's your prerogative. That's what you want to do. Go ahead and do it. All right, don't let me stop you. And, aside from that, yeah, that's about it, I'm done.
Speaker 1:So, ladies and gentlemen, that close that, our disenchantment review. Uh, I, if I were to rate this show four stars, maybe four and a half, yeah, because, once again, not a perfect show, but it did a lot of things right. And, with that being said, we're gonna close this out. Remember that we got some reviews coming up soon. Uh, what we're gonna be talking about shit. Uh, oh, yeah, the mcu we're gonna be talking about some. Oh, love and nerdyness is coming up and february, so we're gonna be doing a whole bunch of love and relationship shit. Um, we might be on the after dark talking about relationships in general, like it might get really heated in that in those episodes, but you know what? Let's just go ahead and close this out. Remember to stay nerdy and remember that great things are coming. We are zoning out. Take it easy.