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The Reckoning of 2024: Katt Williams Unleashed on Club Shay Shay | ZONE Podcast: After Dark

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The Reckoning of 2024: Katt Williams Unleashed on Club Shay Shay | ZONE Podcast: After Dark
Jan 21, 2024
JetBlackXtreme, Kokugatsu, Professor Tuck, Mira Jane, Playboi

Ever find yourself pondering the unvarnished truths behind the sparkling veneer of the entertainment industry? Our latest conversation takes you through a labyrinth of candid discussions, from Katt Williams' blistering honesty in a recent interview to the ripple effects it's had among his peers. We navigate the tumultuous waves of the comedy scene, dissecting the intersections of personal lives and public perception, and the often untold stories of generosity that bind the community together!

Picture this: Ricky Smiley's casting kerfuffle, the controversial "dress situation" in comedy, and the raw realities of relationship dynamics—all served with no holds barred. We shed light on the darker side of fame, touching upon the alleged joke theft involving Cedric the Entertainer, and the personal tragedies that can sometimes propel a career forward. Yet, amidst the chaos, we find solace in the laughter and wisdom left behind by legends like Bernie Mac, while contemplating the future of education and the value of genuine connection in a world that seems increasingly transactional!

Join us as we wrap up with musings on monogamy, the toxicity of vengeance, and the delicate balance of trust within our closest circles. With anecdotes as colorful as the characters discussed, we lay bare the complex tapestry of the entertainment industry, comedy's unique challenges, and the lives forever changed in its wake. So pour yourself a drink, settle in, and get ready for a session of storytelling that's as revealing as it is riveting!

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Ever find yourself pondering the unvarnished truths behind the sparkling veneer of the entertainment industry? Our latest conversation takes you through a labyrinth of candid discussions, from Katt Williams' blistering honesty in a recent interview to the ripple effects it's had among his peers. We navigate the tumultuous waves of the comedy scene, dissecting the intersections of personal lives and public perception, and the often untold stories of generosity that bind the community together!

Picture this: Ricky Smiley's casting kerfuffle, the controversial "dress situation" in comedy, and the raw realities of relationship dynamics—all served with no holds barred. We shed light on the darker side of fame, touching upon the alleged joke theft involving Cedric the Entertainer, and the personal tragedies that can sometimes propel a career forward. Yet, amidst the chaos, we find solace in the laughter and wisdom left behind by legends like Bernie Mac, while contemplating the future of education and the value of genuine connection in a world that seems increasingly transactional!

Join us as we wrap up with musings on monogamy, the toxicity of vengeance, and the delicate balance of trust within our closest circles. With anecdotes as colorful as the characters discussed, we lay bare the complex tapestry of the entertainment industry, comedy's unique challenges, and the lives forever changed in its wake. So pour yourself a drink, settle in, and get ready for a session of storytelling that's as revealing as it is riveting!

Text us for feedback and recommendations for future episodes!

Support the Show.

We thank everyone for listening to our podcast! We hope to grow even bigger to make great things happen, such as new equipment for higher-quality podcasts, a merch store & more! If you're interested in supporting us, giving us feedback and staying in the loop with updates, then follow our ZONE Social Media Portal!

Subscribe to "Content for Creators" on YouTube to listen to some of the music used for these productions!

Speaker 1:

Ayo was good everybody. It's JetBlackestream and we are back at it with an after dark episode of the zone podcast. Today we're gonna talk about this interview Cat Williams had on club JJ a lot of eye opening shit. I mean, that depends on how much you know about the industry to where it might be a little eye opening or it might be like you know. Honestly, I'm not even surprised, but it's just real interesting how, ever since this came out, a lot of people are coming out talking about oh, you gonna sit there and let him talk about me like that, but in my opinion, let's go ahead and zone in and have a drink just for the occasion, man, okay, so I gotta mute it and I got it in the background right now.

Speaker 1:

And I'm looking at this interview and I'm like bro, it's crazy. A lot of shit that Cat said. And here's my thing with Cat as long as I've seen him doing stand up and everything, I always saw this man and I was like you know what? That doesn't look like a man that lies casually. It's like he stands on what he says and when it comes to the truth coming to light, he's gonna have a perfect account of what's going on. And cookie. I said let me open up, open this up to you. How do you feel about all this, like all the things he was saying on there?

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna be honest with you. I feel like this is what Dad's theme list was supposed to do, but it failed to do. This is what really was supposed to happen.

Speaker 1:

To be honest on that one this was real funny how the list was supposed to come out at that time too.

Speaker 2:

Exactly that's what I'm saying, but honestly, this was one of the interesting interviews in itself and the fact that, yes, so Cat Williams has first off, he had a lot of people back them up, which is one thing about it, but some of the biggest things into this interview that we love, obviously, is the fact that it's Cat Williams who the guy who has never sold his soul, the man who is constantly being beaten down by the industry, by media, but still comes back every single time, like regardless, like, think about it this way most so many, so many actors, actors and comedians once they get hit on by the media and stuff, they don't come back, they never and it's real funny how Shannon was saying, oh you ain't scared of getting black bald again, and Cat was like again, what are you talking about?

Speaker 1:

I'm like I never got black bald, like I just kept it pushing yeah he never did she can't cancel it.

Speaker 5:

Always come back, always literally Eddie.

Speaker 2:

Griffin too, oh yeah, all three of them did that. They took a break.

Speaker 1:

They took a break, came back and was like, came back, like it, nothing had never happened yeah, it's about dodging the laser beams essentially, and speaking of which professor took the known unknown of the leaf. How you feeling about all of this?

Speaker 5:

what Cat was saying on Club Church well, you know, I was chilling at the Leaf Village, minding my business you know I mean, and then I came through you know cuz I was over there throwing rocks at the third whole cocky grade I had. I had looked on my YouTube page and I saw this interview and I was like bro, let me, let me check this out. Three hours I spent watching this video and listen.

Speaker 1:

I'll be down. It felt like the Batman to where I watched that movie. I'm like it doesn't feel like three hours, but I was. So I was so interested, I was so engrossed by all, like hey, yo, yeah it felt like the first episode of solo leveling bruh, it wasn't enough.

Speaker 5:

Like my major takeaway, my favorite, I gotta pull it up too. So I won't get it wrong, cuz you know I've been drinking a little bit they same here, if you wanted me to speak more highly of you, then perhaps you should have treated me better you don't get to narrate my story of my experiences with you. Nigga.

Speaker 1:

I almost sent that to my ex wife winners are not allowed to allow losers to rewrite history. That was my main takeaway. I was like, oh, because, listen, listen, you got me fucked up if you gonna spread lies about me. I'm like hey, man, I'm not trying to throw dirt on your name, I'm just setting the record straight because you tell them people shit, that never happened.

Speaker 5:

I'm trying to tell you right.

Speaker 2:

Look now I'm not bouncing my biggest takeaway onto that, that. If I did one line for me that he said, you associate yourself with losers and I find that very concerned.

Speaker 1:

I don't know if I speak for all podcast host, but I feel like, spiritually, it's a policy to where we have to maintain a level of impartiality when we talk about these certain things, because we can't add like, oh, we're buddy buddy with one person and they have an interview with another person, and add like, oh, now we just on aiding all that gossip and shit. They're like nah, I keep it on vice. Almost like because the thing is, the truth does not play favorites, it only deals.

Speaker 5:

In fact that's a fact. Numbers don't lie. But you see how many views it got as of right now like at least more than 25 million.

Speaker 1:

Like bro, the numbers were fucking climbing dude within.

Speaker 2:

The first chin it went on a whole nother pocket that within three days he was all over you guys, it's been what you were saying first. I was saying that within the first three days he it shouldn't have went on to a whole nother podcast talking about it. We're saying within the first three days after it aired. Cuz no, sir, he first posted it he was already at 12,000 people watching it as it was loaded 52 now.

Speaker 1:

I'm looking at right now is that 52 now?

Speaker 2:

52 million and so within three days he was already at. They said they were already at 12 million within three days so in two weeks he's at 52 now he made some money from them.

Speaker 1:

God, now playboy. Yeah, how you feel man.

Speaker 3:

Like you say, bro, the a lot is a lot, even if the whole world believes it. But the truth is the truth. Whether nobody believes it at all, it still stands as fat. You know I'm saying so. Preach what I got from this interview.

Speaker 1:

You know I need to take a drink.

Speaker 3:

I hate you all this shit what I got from an interview in general, though like just from my perspective, cuz I'm not in the room, no matter how much money you all or issues and problems is just regular people. In a sense it's kind of like gossip.

Speaker 3:

You know I'm saying there's always two sides to a story. Don't get me wrong. I've been fucking with cats since Friday's and since I've never watched any of his stand up from beginning to end. But as a com, as a comedian, I've always. You know cat Williams. He was kind of like the short and funny guy before Kevin Hart came around. You know I'm saying so right, when I'm hearing him talk.

Speaker 3:

He don't sound like he have a reason to lie, like he don't right, he's not giving off. Oh, I'm just defending myself or I'm trying to be relevant. Last he, like you, said I wouldn't be here if you didn't let these people come on here and talk about me. So I'm just clearing my face. That's not what happened. I feel like, because I've been in those positions, people have given a different narrative of what actually happened. Because everybody isn't present, the conversation probably would have went a little bit different if they were all in the room. Then the lies wouldn't be thrown around because that person would be there to objectify.

Speaker 3:

You know I'm saying so. I I respect cat for going on there and doing what he does. I'm not gonna say I fully take his side. I do fuck with him over the people he talked about, some of them, especially Steve Harvey, because I never really seen him as a funny guy, so that also helps his case, because I've never really seen Steve Harvey being movies itself, from one to two, and I can't even recall those. I can name plenty. With cat Williams he's been in TV shows. He's right. He don't play his character pimp name slipback.

Speaker 3:

That's cat Williams yeah every time Steve Harvey get on there, it has to be him like I don't give me wrong, he has a point and he got, he got, he got my support on what he says. He feel me but, like at this point, I just want to hear the other parties come back to what he's saying about what they said.

Speaker 1:

I just want to see, see, to go back and forth at this point right, I feel that definitely, man, like yeah, because even though I'm very glad that I have the friends that I have, so where I don't even have to feel that way with them. But, man, do I tell you that back when I had, like, this old circle and cookie got to. You already know, playboy, you already know sometimes we have some characters in our circle where I'm like, hey, man, like you can just sit in the room and you can hear all that cap and asinine that they're saying and you just like, really that's the story you want to tell. All right, but um, mirror, jane, how you feeling about the interviews?

Speaker 4:

I feel like every black man in industry has a light skin white woman with a strange face. That's how I'm feeling, um, better than feeling dr Uma. Listen, man, I don't know if y'all did it, but I was at work when this interview dropped and I stopped everything I was doing and was there maybe, or maybe some work that did or did not get done that day, absolutely because I had to research every black man in the industry to see if it was true. Um, have y'all seen little chris wife?

Speaker 2:

yes, yep, I love it. Right after the interview, I didn't even have to look up movie crew as wife. There was one of the ones that was mentioned, I think, like back in fast, back during like the second Fast and Furious movie, um, because I think that's when they actually got married or they got together. So keep in mind on to that when you're adding up that uh, cat Williams timeline on this too. But when he was talking about this stuff, keep that in mind. The fact that, um, that was already something they had discussed before was the fact that, like dang, this is his wife. I said, well, he must love her because it was like a look at him like y'all.

Speaker 2:

Don't be that man wife alone, y'all hey, that is not right hey, I think I love my wife see you come, I'm not gonna lie to you, but my life, my wife, bad. Don't do that, don't you dare?

Speaker 2:

don't you dare pray and lighten your mouse but for real though but for real though there was it, there was definitely like trying to roast on to it even back then. So just the fact that it came back, man, oh, we got to. You know what we? We got to get into the interview first some of the stuff is talked about. Then we got to talk about these like responses that didn't happen to like God almighty, but go ahead.

Speaker 4:

But my one takeaway from this was don't get up here lying, because cat Williams said he doesn't know why liars lie, and I believe that, because no one knows why liars lie yeah yeah, we don't know why they seek attention in that way.

Speaker 4:

We all don't know why Ricky smiley decided to get up there and lie after his child died. And I thought it first. It hit me so hard the way he said it, the way cat said it hit hard that junk hurt my soul. But then I was like, and after that he said you know, that's why, that's why we believe in rituals, and I was like, dang, he kind of right, because it always seemed. It always seemed like something real tragic, it happened.

Speaker 4:

And then next day, you know they career take off right or you can just kind of look back over the years and see something real bad happen to somebody like I can't think of an example or not, because I've been drinking a little bit too much well, I got to, I got to hold on.

Speaker 1:

I got you, I got you will Smith and Jay. Cole said it best. I mean it's like oh no, listen oh, y'all, y'all heard a join a Lucas, right? Okay, he made a song dedicated to will. I'm looking back. I'm like I fucking love that song but, when I listen to that song now I'm like bro, like goddamn, like it's hard to listen to this song the way Jada did will so dirty it's like God whole said I need a Jada will love Lee, the two births at your crib, what they don't know so are you.

Speaker 1:

Is that implying that August love this to brush that?

Speaker 5:

he didn't have a spending night man he had a spending night road.

Speaker 1:

No, it was more like you know how August was Jada's friend, right? So it's like, hey, man can't come over for a sweet boy. I'm like yeah man.

Speaker 2:

Come on, they were supposed to be over working on some music together because it was supposed to be helping Jaden take off better because Jaden already got the fact that he's will Smith son. Already people listen to him. But it was people still kind of skeptical. They like no, he too knew he's not as good and stuff like that. This was during the time August was had like really big numbers. People was hella checking him out, people was hella listening to him and so he was already friends with Jaden. They came like they hear you supposed to make music, bro.

Speaker 1:

That was a whole thing, bro my friend, I was still listening to testify by August because that was that song was fucking hitting.

Speaker 4:

I'm gonna testify he's testifying himself that's crazy, though, like August really had will paying his freaking medical bills oh, and hold on the.

Speaker 1:

The pettiness that after all that shit happened, august put out that one song entanglement featuring Rick Ross Rick Ross in the midst accusations versus solidifying cats points this thing.

Speaker 1:

That's a fact, that's a fact see, that's why I need a drink. This is why I'm glad I'm doing this episode right now, because it's like I look, I just fucking love how, with Cat Williams, he is creating a ripple effect that I thought Brittany Renner was going to do when she was on club shake it now, keep in mind, this wasn't the first episode close club shake that I watched. The first time I ever heard of this podcast, or if that, if you can call it podcast, I don't know how it's in it classified as such, but I saw Brittany Renner on there for the first time on three months ago and she was talking her shit and I'm like, okay, the whole part where cat saying that, oh, once this gonna be established as a place of truth, everybody's gonna be coming. Now he did what Brittany Renner and the Epstein list failed to do, to where they okay, the truth is coming out and it's like, okay, okay, this is the thing.

Speaker 1:

But not this is cat Williams, though there's a lot of people that loves cat Williams, so he's coming on there, he's spilling his tea and he's like, oh, shit. And then next, you know, you see how, all these people coming out Ricky Smiley, kevin Hart fucking Mike Ebb's, jay Z Ludacris on sedge the entertainer Steve Harvey, tiffany Hattie a whole bunch of people coming out talking about hey man, you heard what on cat Williams was saying on the fucking phone.

Speaker 1:

That's gonna be the whole tone of 2024. You gonna have a whole lot of people coming on club shake it. That's why he was saying that, oh, this is gonna be booming after this interview, and I believe it. See, that's the thing, that's the magic behind cat where it's like you know that once he said something and it comes true later on. It's like hey, I told you this is true.

Speaker 2:

Now we'll also say one thing as well when we start talking about some of the responses into it, something as well to keep in mind. Cat did say this during the interview as well, too, because Shannon had kept asking him about the fact like this is stuff that you know of and he says no, he kind of sits back in the corner. This is information that comes to him. So there are some things that that cat has said that was actually proven false. However, the things that was proven false was stuff that cat was not actually present for, so this is stuff that was just heard about. Things that he was actually there for was come for all, 100% confirmed true yeah, and that's totally.

Speaker 1:

That's totally fair, because the best thing you can do is take account of what you're involved in. If you're not involved in it, then it's more like hearsay. It's like I heard this, I heard that, but I can't really confirm that to be true or not until the truth comes out. And by George, it fucking came out to where, like, okay, so confirm that was false. That's fine. But yeah, for the most part is like whatever he said as far as what he was involved in, yes, confirmed to be true, alright.

Speaker 1:

So we got a whole lot of notes, so let me go through these like okay. For instance, the first one is that ice cube confirmed that money Mike was his role and not really smile that part where, oh, ricky Smiley didn't want to be Santa Claus and Friday afternoon that money might was supposed to be his role. But Kat Williams was saying himself that, oh, I wrote the script, I picked out the clothes that money might was going to wear, clothes that nobody else was going to be wearing, and all that. I did the research to make sure that I sound as genuine as possible as a pimp. You know, I even made sure we got Magic Don Juan on and all that shit and like, yeah, yeah, like genuine as fuck.

Speaker 2:

Like straight up. Honestly, what I like most about that part into it too is that Ice Cube had like when I watched it, because I watched it a couple times and I'm also pretty sure too was the fact that when he mentioned was, he said, yeah, they did have a script that was written out for money Mike and I'm going to mention this because this is later on to one of those points that's also in our notes just a bit later, they did have something written for money Mike, but they but he did confirm that they're that cat, what it has some freedom in changing some stuff because of the fact that he was going to take it off and it worked out fantastically well. Now, ricky smiley had a response to that. But Ricky smiley's response wasn't what people expected it to be, I would say in that aspect, because he and his manager, bro, when I say they was kissing ass, bro, that whole in that little segment on his morning show, bro, I was on that on podcast that he went on to that morning show. He went on to bruh, just bruh, straight, straight. Because what he was like let me call my manager at the time and he literally called the dude and was like a. He said so yeah, you know, this is what happened.

Speaker 2:

And so what he and the manager confirmed was that after they had interviewed that they were told, yeah, we probably part. So they had got a confirmation that they were going to get the part. So it was like I bet. But then why they were in the trailer is when they got him. That's when they had got a message that said, actually, we think you'll be better for the Santa Claus. So that's what it was that Ricky smiley was supposed to say on his when he was up on Shannon's chart. But that's not, we can say it. So it wanted to get really confusing, is what it is that he and his manager wound up saying onto it? They were just like it kind of got confusing. How the message came off is that they were told they had the part. But then afterwards, when they interviewed cat, they were like no cat would be better. So then they wound up changing their mind on to that while they were in the train.

Speaker 1:

Now that I'm keeping my whole set what he said and keep in mind, 200 people was in with me audition for this role 200 and he was 201 and as soon as I think we did it.

Speaker 2:

I was a lot, that's a lot of short people.

Speaker 4:

Every out of pocket stuff that took says I don't know, say some shit out of pocket. I will never say nothing out of pocket.

Speaker 2:

That's a second shot.

Speaker 5:

No, it's you like you have to take a double shot if I say something out of pocket double shot.

Speaker 4:

No, because it's so rare.

Speaker 2:

We'll be junking three minutes. Don't try that.

Speaker 1:

No, because you know, you remember what I said in the Friday review, right? So it's like apparently that was the most, one of the most out of pocket things I ever said. I was like whoa, I let me explain.

Speaker 2:

Anyway, he was so, but no, for real though that whole thing. But what Ice Cube wound up saying that part was he never said that. They actually said that that's what they'll have, that they have the part, or anything like that. He's never made the promise he said after the interview, ricky Smiley, they said they felt that he was perfect for the Santa Claus when they interviewed him, not that he was perfect for Mike, for money Mike.

Speaker 2:

So that doesn't line up, because now that was not so much what Cass said, but that's something as far as like what Ricky Smiley and his then manager has said versus what Ice Cube has said. Those two things ain't lining up. However, still confirms what Kat wound up saying in the aspect of he did wind up when he got interviewed. They say he was perfect for the role and Kat did have the freedom to augment the script to make it more realistic or make it the way he thinks was going to be better. And Ice Cube confirmed that. Yeah, it was much funnier and they let him roll with that because it was better.

Speaker 1:

Oh, what about the part where Ricky Smiley was cool with Kat wound getting the role, when the original script said that money? Mike was actually supposed to get raped in that bathroom.

Speaker 2:

So that was. That's the next point. This was going to be very interesting. I want y'all to see what y'all take into this one. Like I said, I watched this several times because I had to be sure of what it was before I put this in our notes. Literally, ice Cube constantly kept saying y'all know me, I'm not like, that's not my thing, I don't do stuff like that. I would never put a right screen, put a right scene on camera like he would constantly.

Speaker 2:

I counted. He said it three times because he mentioned it, like he would go into this long aspect, but he will always end it by saying on camera, so never fully confirmed.

Speaker 5:

The play is close.

Speaker 2:

It was supposed to happen, right. So he didn't say that that was never supposed to happen, but it was never going to happen on camera type of thing. It's almost what it keeps coming off at, because he kept saying that like no matter what, even if he took a break and a pause right before he moved on to the next segment that he was going to talk about. He specifically said on camera. Now, kat never said it was going to be on camera, though. He just said that that's what was going to happen. He would be funnier for it to not happen, which I fully agree with.

Speaker 4:

It was funnier. So you're saying. So, basically, it's kind of like it was hinted at. It was just supposed to be kind of hinted at. Like it was hinted at if I put this into play or something. Yeah, it's more poses, and then you would hear screaming.

Speaker 1:

It was like a subversion of expectation in the final cut.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, because.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, good to think about it.

Speaker 2:

The nutcracker. The fact that literally he said the way he had wrote it out, is that they had those three villains. You know, they had Santa Claus, which was a villain, money Mike was a villain, and Dan was a villain too, and so they wound up having an ending that was going to happen to the center, to Black Santa, but they didn't really have a conclusion ending A. They followed the other two villains, so they paired it to where those two villains clash with each other, and that's what was supposed to kind of happen.

Speaker 1:

But a listen. It's funny how, even though that didn't happen and we got to follow what we got, the funny thing is part of well, not a lot, but every now and then, kat will even remember that famous line that a lot of people who watch Friday after next will remember. I am a boy. We are not in prison anymore, damon, I am a boy, damon, I let my fish win.

Speaker 2:

I let my fish win.

Speaker 1:

It's funny how Ricky Smiley was like okay, you know they are going to be rape scenes I'm kind of cool with, but not Kat pulled that off so excellently. It's like that's like one of the most famous scenes ever. I am a boy, so let's just call a question.

Speaker 4:

All right. Do y'all think that the description that Kat will engage of Ricky Smiley's behavior on set that he was going around? And saying honestly do y'all think he's accurate?

Speaker 1:

Yes, okay.

Speaker 4:

Hey Coach, can I hear?

Speaker 5:

you Yo, he a diva man.

Speaker 2:

I want you to understand. For a long time I watched Ricky Smiley one show, okay. But I want you to understand this. I want you to understand it. Okay, I have moments that I'd be like I'm gonna have to turn it off. The reason being is because of the fact aside from what other people have said when they have long term interactions I'm specifically saying this Okay Long term interactions with him is where sometimes it does feel like things go a bit far.

Speaker 2:

So there are moments that that can happen. See, he is one of those celebrities that is known that he's funny in quick sessions, but after a long period of time it doesn't feel as comfortable. You confirm that when watching some of his show, watching his morning show. When you watch his morning show, they'll be sometimes when he be constantly cutting off his co-hosts, like when they seem like they're about to start making the point, he really starts cutting them all and then, a lot of times, what's happening is that, even like those moments where he does like the prank phone calls and shit, those things get a bit far.

Speaker 2:

And sometimes it's real personal, like you just feel like.

Speaker 1:

Oh man, listen, okay, back when I had this old job and I would be riding back from the house. I'm back home and I'll be tuning into the Ricky Smiley morning show on the radio and I'll be hearing these prank phone calls. I'm like hey yo, like this is like some real shit. People get like upset for real. And then I'm like, hey, yo, man, I'm just playing with you. You know you're on the Ricky Smiley morning show. You know your friend just told me to call you down, prank you and like hey man Like something to get.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's, that's just. The thing is like people get seriously heated about some of the shit you'd be saying, so you can't yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he had one episode. He had one episode. He had one episode and I'm glad I didn't hear nothing about on the news, but I don't, I'm hopeful nothing happened. But he wound up going real far in a joke about his dude's wife and like yeah. Like no, no, I'm going to phone and they tried to call him back but he didn't pick up and they were like, oh man, I think he's real mad type of thing. And then they just try to move on. I'm like no.

Speaker 1:

You could have ruined a whole marriage on face of a joke. Yeah.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Like that was, like some of the jokes were too far, like that's just a nah, I can't he used to watch it a lot too, and then I stopped watching and started watching the breakfast club. Yeah, I used to the breakfast club. Look one thing remember, remember for the longest time at in that also, you know what we.

Speaker 1:

I mean, at least they're funny, like they're like genuine funny in my opinion.

Speaker 2:

But the thing about it is remember for like for a long time you always listen to Ricky Smiley. That was the only morning show that we could get, that you could get him about that, but then once they finally got the contract? Yeah, but once they finally got the contract to be able to listen to breakfast club, you switched very quickly.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So just saying on that, but that that that should be proof of itself. No, but no, it's like. That's just one of those things. Yeah, I truly believe he probably was like that on set. He gets upset very quickly and then like he doesn't, he hasn't gotten that, like as old as he is, he can't really calm himself down like that. It's like legit, he cannot really calm himself down and that's a scary thing. You want to deal with something like that. You deal with a person like that. That's your biggest thing. Is that you, my boss?

Speaker 2:

I need you to have a level of like, calmness and you can hear it in the show, because if he starts cutting off his co-hosts enough times and now again I listen to like the full shows the co-host gets quiet. They stopped talking for the rest of the episode.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

So, yeah, this is what we're also keeping my on this podcast too, by the way, yep, just saying.

Speaker 2:

But I got you, but that's why I got on to that. But yeah, I truly believe so. But how do y'all feel? I'm sorry, I wanted to be straight in. Yes.

Speaker 1:

Yes, speaking of quiet boy boy, you've been kind of quiet. How are you feeling about all this so far?

Speaker 3:

Honestly, bro, I only knew Ricky Smiley from the radio. I didn't even realize he got as big as he did, or he was as big as he was. Like I don't. I can't even tell you, like you know, a timeline of me experience. I thought we thought he was local. I'm like a lot of.

Speaker 1:

No see, he's a funny thing. As soon as people were telling me that, oh, ricky Smiley, he was the same. Santa Claus you know he was the same clothes from Friday.

Speaker 3:

What I did remember. Yeah, you feel me that was probably like. I remember hearing that, but it was like see, that's the thing I kind of forgot.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's like OK, it's almost like I thought those were two different people. Like you know, like that's a lot of Ricky Smiley that can be running around. I didn't know that was the same person.

Speaker 3:

Like I don't know. I mean, I guess he would have to have a bigger. Now I'm not Don't get me wrong that Santa Claus in that movie had a huge impact, kind of set the tone for the whole thing, but it's like he had a mask on the whole time.

Speaker 1:

He could have been any black guy running, and that's what he was saying that was Cat was saying there, like it could have been anybody in that suit.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it really could have, bro. They could have swapped different people out. You know how they have on what they call them guys. They could have had one, say, ricky, his smiley broke his fucking ankle when he got here by the car or something. They had to do the rest of the scenes for somebody else. They could have easily replaced him and just had him do a voice over for the movie.

Speaker 2:

And that's what I hear he saying that he was upset because he's like, like how my kids going to know it was me, how am I going to get my food created for me, type of thing. And so I'm like I feel really it wasn't the.

Speaker 1:

it wasn't until the third act that he finally at least OK, I can take off the mask and like they can see my face in the third act. But even then it's like for most of the movie you were masked. So like that could that could mean like a stunt double. Anybody on that?

Speaker 3:

That's the thing as well, even though he took the mask off. When you think about the character, me personally, I don't think about him with the mask off. I always think about him running around with it. Yeah, that's his character. That's what they portray him in the beat, so that's how I see him. I do remember him taking it off and he like man, you know I ain't got nothing. You know he caught nine the jigs up shit like Scooby Doo. Ok, check this out, check this out.

Speaker 1:

Y'all remember the first barbershop right and the two guys that was trying to steal the ATM. One of them was Played by Anthony Anderson. Like, see, the thing is, yeah, they lifted that ATM machine, but while the events that was happening at the barbershop was going on, at least you had this B plot to where these two clouds are trying to hide this ATM machine and you at least get to see some characterization from these two, rather than with Ricky Smiley on Friday after next. You just know him as a dude that was robbing somebody. It wasn't until the final act that I was like oh well, you know, no one ever got me done, so I'm, I will take everything that everybody else got you know. So it's like you only get that to like the final act. But even then I feel nothing for this guy.

Speaker 1:

That's why his role was so forgettable in the sense where anybody could have filled in that role, because there was not much of a role to begin with.

Speaker 1:

It's more like they just needed a secondary antagonist for the sake of having a secondary antagonist. That's why I was saying that at least with next Friday. It was my favorite out of the three as far as structure. But let's be honest, by the time they got to Friday after next, that's when things got a little formulaic to where, ok, we got to have a role for, like, this guy, be a primary antagonist, that got to be a secondary antagonist, there's got to be the comic relief and blah, blah, blah, you got to have these roles fitting in. Blah, blah, blah, excuse me. And yeah, that's why I'm saying like with him, with him being masked and everything. He was just going to be more forgettable that way, to where I don't feel nothing for this guy because he didn't have much of a character to begin with, at least with Kat Williams as money might. He made the role so iconic that you can't, you'll never forget that role.

Speaker 2:

This is true, this is very true.

Speaker 1:

He said himself in an interview to where, even if you only have a little bit of screen time like where you was on first Sunday, if you even had a little bit of screen time you make every scene that you're in as big as the movie itself.

Speaker 2:

You ain't wrong on that. Yeah, because he did bring up about first Sunday and, honestly, whenever I think of first Sunday, I was funny. I think of them robbing the church. Well, I think of the choir director. It's just legit what you think about. Right, it's true, he is the face of first Sunday to me.

Speaker 5:

And that's the move where he said it's rain and white bitches.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, that's Norbit.

Speaker 4:

Norbit, was that Norbit?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that was Norbit. We're going to review that one.

Speaker 5:

I don't want to review Norbit, but I'm gonna die the whole time.

Speaker 4:

I have a funny family story about Norbit.

Speaker 2:

Oh, you guys get to on that episode, little miss.

Speaker 4:

It's funny you brought up first Sunday. It's funny you brought up first Sunday because Cat Williams put in his contract or claims he put in his contract that Ricky Smiley would have to wear the dress.

Speaker 1:

Oh Did he have one of the dress.

Speaker 2:

Yeah he did, you know something Literally the only thing that wound up happening as far as in that one when they both Ricky and his at time manager, when it was talking on the phone about it and it was like he said this and this and he was like no, I was like I put on the dress because it was supposed to be funny, because it was supposed to help make things even funnier for the show and stuff like that, and so he was just trying to like sidetrack that way, but it's like I don't know, we don't truly know that's exactly how things went into that and that's really what they did fulfill that in order to get Cat back. But he did try to just brush past that situation, though.

Speaker 4:

I saw that slide. It was like hold on.

Speaker 2:

But the whole dress situation. Oh man, like Kevin Hart, martin, mark Bruh, you know, the bad part about it is that they but then this is also funny because they actually had an interview quite a few other people before about this and they always kept saying the same thing is like if you choose to wear the dress, even just at one time, your career keeps going. But almost every single person that has said no, I will not wear the dress is damn near forgettable. There's only three people that at least we can name off the top of our heads is Cat Williams, dave Chappelle and, of course, eddie Griff, and that's it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and look how well they're doing.

Speaker 4:

What I think is interesting about the dress situation is so I went down the rabbit hole right. I didn't have a choice, I had to. It is the same thing with white comedians. I don't want to make, but it's like there's just general consensus about males wearing a dress.

Speaker 1:

At some point in their comedic career Like. Oh Okay, can I just say hold on. Is Tyler Perry the forerunner of this?

Speaker 3:

shit at this point.

Speaker 1:

I don't know, okay, okay, so he's not Okay, but he is well known as Medea and it's really funny how we're talking about these dudes and dresses. And you remember that one episode of the boondocks where there was this parody of Tyler Perry and Granddad was supposed to renounce Friday and then next thing you know, like everybody who worked on that episode, that was part of Tyler Perry's umbrella there was fire because no, no, no, you're not going to get on that show and let them talk about me like that. And it's really funny because it kind of think like, oh man, like I think, man, if, if Cat Williams mentioned Tyler Perry I don't know if he did, but he didn't yeah, you know what I'm saying is like if he mentioned Tyler Perry.

Speaker 4:

He did Wait, he did.

Speaker 1:

It didn't feel like he did.

Speaker 5:

He said Tyler Perry and he said he was believable in the dress.

Speaker 1:

Okay, oh yeah, he did just say that because you remember that one movie that he was like playing as a dude. It was like a series movie. I forgot what it was.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, the dude was over there. He's talking about your. Breath smells like men's and the bathroom seat is up. There's fog on the mirror and I know what. Nichols in here 15 minutes ago, in 30 seconds. I'm like God damn, they got all that from walking in the room.

Speaker 2:

Sherlock Holmes yeah, sherlock.

Speaker 5:

Holmes.

Speaker 2:

But you know funny things the fact that, like Cat Williams, he did. He said he was more believable in the dress because there's a thing about it. That movie did not go as well because a lot of people was like, oh, tyler Perry is in it and everyone was expecting him in the dress per se, and so there was literally people that were talking about he wasn't in the dress this time. Okay, but the movie wasn't quite the best. It was a thing. I'm going to watch that movie again.

Speaker 4:

That was good.

Speaker 5:

It was just that one scene. I'm going to watch that one scene on YouTube.

Speaker 4:

I'm going to watch the movie, okay.

Speaker 1:

And then he was playing a male character in some of the Tyler Perry movies. Like sometimes when they do, like not exactly the stage plays but an actual live action, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 5:

Why did I get married?

Speaker 1:

Yeah, why did I get married? The family that prays. Oh yeah, a few other, a lot of.

Speaker 5:

Mexican, he played. He played, I mean my dear brother. Yeah, joe, my dear brother.

Speaker 1:

Joe.

Speaker 5:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you know. I'm your daddy, I just kind of had a realization, right.

Speaker 4:

Where is also one of the first billionaires, billionaire black comedians. I'm just pointing that out there Now hold on.

Speaker 1:

It's funny, it's really funny that you mentioned that, because he was saying on the interview oh, they said my net million was 25 million. Oh shit, that's why you had on me.

Speaker 4:

That in my pocket. I was just saying, like, if you think about it is kind of crazy, like the man who's wearing the dress all the time is now the millionaire. I mean not million, a billionaire. He's now the first. But not only that, but opens his first completely black on to you. Yeah, was this the Illuminati contract? Right, yeah, you get the studio, but you ain't getting out that dress though.

Speaker 2:

I don't know. The media movies have come to a final, come to a stop. So I think now he's finally at that point, since he now has his own money, he's not Well, you know he did it because his son was getting picked on in school Like they were.

Speaker 4:

Like your dad wears a dress for for his job. That's what he does, yeah.

Speaker 5:

That's the ultimate weapon, though. If you in school, at the end of the day, no matter what you say, shut up. Your daddy got a dress on what you gonna say back to that, you can't say shit.

Speaker 2:

No, go ahead and mention it anyway, since we already at this point. This is the after dark episode anyway. On to it. That's one of the biggest things that we're afraid of our future generation. But I got when your mom on on the hand. You really think you could talk that mess right now, like what.

Speaker 5:

Did you see all that little clip where Kanye West kids seen a little ad for their mama on? On point or something like that, bruh. Oh man, I'll be so mad.

Speaker 2:

I don't know how to feel on to that. That's what I don't know.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

That's the only thing you can say, is it's like at least my mom's finding up to make a whole bunch of money on it. What happened to?

Speaker 5:

yours. That's the only comeback you can make on today.

Speaker 1:

I'll be like I remember this one girl, I think it was El Brooks, that went on the Pierce Morgan show and she was like saying, oh yeah, my kids can cry in a Ferrari for doing this. And I was like, well, yeah, I mean they, yeah, they can, it's the biggest thing I'm gonna cry.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna cry, wipe my tears away with these hundreds over here, like I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I'm like that's the way you want to cope on, I'm not going, I'm gonna let you have that, you know.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, it's like some sad shit happened to you, but would you rather some sad shit happened to you in your one bedroom flat or in your mansion with your chef, like it's the mansion?

Speaker 4:

Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, it just ain't as bad, no matter how you cut the cookie.

Speaker 1:

No no, you know, first world problems.

Speaker 2:

You know, we, we not one of them, we not them kids right now. So we only speaking of what may happen.

Speaker 1:

We'll figure it out later. And it's like just imagine. No imagine.

Speaker 1:

I guess that now, ladies and gentlemen, listen to this. Imagine, I don't know if you're a parent or not, but if you are a parent, just imagine Hypothetically you had somebody who you were in a relationship with, somebody that was on. It could be a man, could be a woman. I'm not going to discriminate, but point being they do, they post what they post on that platform and you're going to have kids. That's going to pull your kids and it's going to be like your mama, better post more feet.

Speaker 5:

But don't let me discover something about one of my enemies mama only fans. I'm subscribing. I'm going to tell my brother to subscribe for me. I'm sure everybody look at Jesse mama and don't let them play call of duty with me, neither your mama and your mama. That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3:

Why subscribe? Why subscribe? We can just find the leaks on it ready.

Speaker 1:

That's a fact. But, I needed an.

Speaker 5:

HD to show everybody the proof.

Speaker 2:

Look how many fans she got. So you just going to prove the point. You just don't get them on money. To prove that point, though. It's only seven dollars to get back.

Speaker 4:

His mama only worth seven dollars.

Speaker 2:

Okay, but it's bad. You just you said but you're going to get your other boys to see that. Go ahead and subscribe to that's more than seven dollars at that point.

Speaker 5:

No, step off of that. That's it so basically you're. Recruiting seven dollars.

Speaker 4:

I mean wait for half our special Wait for it to go free.

Speaker 2:

They have like part of only fans. Is the part literally one of the content? Now, the contrast the only thing is that at least once a year you have to have like one month is free. For I don't, I don't, I don't subscribe to only fans, but I have a lot on my mind. You know all this information. How do?

Speaker 5:

you know about all that information. Let me, let me get on my Alex. Jones.

Speaker 1:

You got a lot of information.

Speaker 5:

I'm not going to be on the show.

Speaker 4:

I'm not going to be on the show I'm a tell you, let me be your lawyer, bro Accursion Falsal.

Speaker 5:

Accursion. How much rather represent myself First of all that's because the judge, the judge in the jury was read Y'all did that she.

Speaker 4:

I promise you it was. It was by the judge. I'm not sure if it's true, so I'm going to let you know that we're going to be on the show.

Speaker 5:

You're going to be on the show. I'm going to let you know that you're going to be on the show.

Speaker 2:

I'm not going to be on the show.

Speaker 5:

I promise you it was, it was by. This is fuck, and I can't wait to judge because, no matter what you lose, don't ask loss we keep it.

Speaker 2:

No, no, no, but like let me answer that question so we can get back on track. You know already like kind of drifted bit. So if I remember, only fans original was not supposed to be for porn. It was supposed to be for like fans who subscribe to certain people's. Originally supposed to be for like artists and creators and stuff. It was supposed to be for content creators before it became a big thing on Facebook, instagram and Twitter.

Speaker 1:

Well, now exit. But then everything changed when the thought is attacked.

Speaker 2:

So I had actually started following fans way back then Because you know, I'm an artist like. I like to paint, draw, I like I'm getting in the animation and also like sculpting, but I've liked doing that since I was in, like, high school, okay. So, yes, I looked up onto the policy because I originally had tried to sign, to sign in to be a creator on today, but of course, I was entirely too young get to be 18, had to be 18 in order to be able to do so, so I was waiting for by the time I turn 18, only fans started becoming what it is today. So that completely scrapped but those policies to kind of remain into it. Now the other thing is is that my throwaway Twitter that I have because I have one that's public and one that people don't know that people don't know me.

Speaker 2:

So that one I am. I have quite a few that I follow on there.

Speaker 1:

You have one for personal and one for research.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, you know, researching exactly, exactly.

Speaker 2:

So that's the thing, though. So it's like, yeah, that's just how it works out. So my personal thought all these different artists I follow animators and stuff like that, comment book artists and stuff, all the biggest things that's how I keep, that's how I'm able to send so many different articles and updates Into our group, because that's that, that's that personal. But then, yeah, I have that extra one, the spicy one, for my own personal research. There you go and there you go. This is what it is.

Speaker 2:

Because I'm because of the fact that I'm still subscribed to so many on to them. I follow when that happens and it became also very apparent them like okay. So some of those policies are still pretty much the same. I'm also one of those people that I don't go into any job. I don't sign any contract without reading it ever. Don't do that. That's just me. That's how my mom raised me. My mom was a very my mom was like she done. She then did taxes for people. She has done all types of contracts for people.

Speaker 2:

She used to be an eye used to be a long shark. We're not really a long shark, but legally, but for reals, I pay attention she used to break legs.

Speaker 1:

So she was like left the wall from the first barbershow. Okay, now hold on, hold on.

Speaker 1:

I like how you're bringing this up Cooker guys, because cat Williams said in this interview he was talking about the whole Johnson majors on incident and how he was saying like well, I'm not surprised with Marvel and deep on Disney, because With those people they will have you sign those contracts and whatnot. On trying to hype you up to all these people make people Think you're more handsome than you asked you are, but at the same time, um Disney will look he's right in your face and be like you know, we can get ready via any time we want to write, so you better look at that fucking conjure.

Speaker 2:

This is very true and then, like I know, we're gonna talk about it obviously for nerdy news, so I'm not gonna mention it specifically here. But unfortunately, things for a Jonathan majors has gotten even worse. It was pretty much to say his career is dead at this point, there is no recovery.

Speaker 1:

He's like no, no, he's like no. He's like oh, fucking. Oh Guys name already, but fucking tiger king is like I'm. I'm never gonna find that to recover from this.

Speaker 2:

To be honest with you, if he does want to recover, ain't that? I'm be honest, it's sad this point into it. He might not recover until after death per se, not based on jury requests. That.

Speaker 5:

Verde.

Speaker 2:

That Verde was strict and the thing about it a. Bunch of complainant kept coming back afterwards to say, oh this, and like I just shared the article in a group, they say his thing has gone back at least 10 years of him being having abuse abuse to his ex.

Speaker 5:

Yes, it's all of them.

Speaker 1:

Pale face oh, most of Then they say that all Megan good showed up and if she didn't show up on he would have gotten on way worth not.

Speaker 5:

Look at William say yeah, I mean the John. I see you know that movie she was in when she was drinking that water from the water fountain.

Speaker 4:

What.

Speaker 1:

No, no, no. Yeah, remember that one movie she was in on the cookout where, oh you know, you had the twins, or what. I was like. What do you think I was like?

Speaker 5:

Yeah, I parked my car in that every day of the week and I was like but my fondest memory of her Way back when, when she was in cousin Skeeter and I was like goddamn, she found you know what she was, that little girl in on the first Friday movie to you know where on with ice cream truck and whatnot.

Speaker 1:

And you like, wow, like it's real funny yeah.

Speaker 5:

That was her out of here, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Looking good has been actually since she was very, very young. A lot of people don't forget that, because when she she did the same thing that happened with on, was it not Zendaya? But like with Eric, yeah, with area on the grande. Area on the grande was in some stuff when she was younger, but it's like oh yeah, um, he's a Palmer and oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, well she was in roll bounce with by well, too, that was and once they hit that, once like maturity hit and bodies filled out Because they took a brief moment, because every all of them have to take a brief moment in like the teenage years, but they may still do some stuff, but you don't see him as much. Then, all of a sudden, you see him in a big-time movie or a big-time show when they're now adults and you're like yo, who was that?

Speaker 5:

I love both of them too, but now you can't do Unfortunately, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

So tuck got hope like this, took our hopes onto this one, but I, I don't think he gonna recover, I don't think so, but he's such a great actor I need a lot amazing.

Speaker 5:

I just watched cream three, like couple days ago.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I mean, I mean I think we got all the notes for on Ricky Smiley but other than that, like no, I pretty, pretty sure we got everything on him All right. So let's talk about Kevin hard. How he said he only responded with jet the fast went on the radio Stating that cat did not bring his people up, what, while he did pretty much denying cat helped his own Comedians and gave them a leg up and to stop on coming after people who are, and that he need to fix himself. And he's told because he told drugs, how you, how you feel about that.

Speaker 2:

We know for a fact that cats and Kevin hard do not get along. As cat has said himself, he has never been just done on purpose. That's just kind of how things have always been. They've never been the same building together. When one's walking out, the others walking in now They've been in the same building, they have been, but it's one of them that begin. This is one things I also mentioned. He's got this information from other people so it's like that's just kind of how it is. Like, as far as he knows, he still hasn't really seen Kevin. He's never been to one of his shows, like ever, just real tall, who's never been to one of his shows. And he's never like, yeah, like never been the same room. So, as far as it's concerned, even if you like I walk out the room, I may have to go to the bathroom, I still never run into this guy so as a pop. So as far as he's concerned, we've never been the same building together and by the time he hears that cat was there, he's like oh yeah, that time he is that Kevin was there. They're like oh yeah, kevin Hart was here, but Kevin he already kind of left this stuff and he was like, oh, I Never knew he was here type of thing. He probably just has literally never run into him. So as far as he's concerned, they've never even really been in the same building. You don't know because he's never run into him and never heard about him being there until after the fact per se. That's the only thing I can really assume into that aspect. But it's like, but Kevin Hart me and also to know Kevin did wind up going a little bit further for about, I say about three, four days.

Speaker 2:

Is that? That's all that he wanted to say. We just like check the facts. That he didn't want to go into that. But then he did wind up actually going on to a morning film with Tiffany Haddish, to where they were trying to sit there where they started like counteracting a bunch of stuff.

Speaker 2:

They're like that doesn't make sense. He doesn't bring his people up, he doesn't do his arm. He said I don't destroy my bit, don't destroy my business in my brand, because you not doing what you supposed to do but you need to do is fix your act, to fix up and stop going to some drugs all the time. It's so he really just only just tried to just roast in. It's like you know what you want to come at me, I'm just gonna come at you. Who cares you doing all this and doing all that and da da, da da Type of stuff. So Kevin did one of like going more into a morning show after a couple, after a couple days to try to respond a little bit more and then wound up getting more backlash Because of him going out there, because of the fact that people was Definitely starting to get more on cat side when a lot of those facts that he was saying started coming to light.

Speaker 1:

Speaking of which, can we talk about how with Now that we're talking about Tiffany Hatters, where she went on that segment and said that she didn't perform on white nights but she did perform on black nights and Keep in mind that she been in comedy since 1996 and she was tweeting on Twitter that she wasn't mad, but just wish that the fat was straight what are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 2:

I was trying to be quiet. Listen, mother, people go real quick. Come on, yeah.

Speaker 3:

You might have to repeat the question for me, cuz I don't, I'm not, I'm not really familiar on Tiffany.

Speaker 1:

She said that she went on the segment and said that she didn't perform on white nights, but she did perform on black nights and this was her performing comedy says 1996. So in other words, like it was like back then, to where, okay, you have like white comics in the app, black comics on certain nights.

Speaker 2:

Oh, because cat wound up saying that she never really performed any type of sold out. She's never done. I think she's never been like big and famous or nothing like that. I.

Speaker 5:

Wonder which night Gary Owen's perform.

Speaker 1:

Okay, speaking of which Gary owns as in crossover, had to go on Twitter to clarify what that meant, and he hasn't sold his soul Was on whatever he was on. I don't really follow Gary oans that much, to be perfectly honest.

Speaker 5:

You say what Okay?

Speaker 1:

Something about Gary oans Hasn't really crossed over. He was saying that he never sold his soul.

Speaker 5:

You know I watch his podcast. He said he never sold it so he had to go on Twitter and find out what that meant.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 5:

He stayed down.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 5:

Gary Owen stayed down because Gary Owen is a light-skinned brother.

Speaker 2:

Because he did do a stand-up comment he did on the segment and stand up about it too. He was just like your cat was just going in on people, people's responding left and right and stuff, and he's like you mentioned about me. I was like, oh, dad, I do something bad. What I do it's. I thought me and cat was cool. Did you listen? He's like wait, well, what do you say? I'm confused and it was just like, oh, you never sold your soul. He say yeah, true, I never saw myself. There's no point.

Speaker 5:

There's nothing worth it on the other side. But I know he performed on black, nice and white.

Speaker 1:

All right.

Speaker 2:

His jokes was more relatable to black people than white people, which is funny.

Speaker 5:

It gets in the face of a white person, especially being on comic you, you know I mean on comedy. You gotta be funny or they're gonna move you off the stage, true, yeah, yeah, you're the lairies strictly for the niggas.

Speaker 2:

People are. He's like here's the thing about it. Just like how Eminem la blip. Black people like Eminem. They love his music and he never says nigga, gary owns the same thing. He's extremely funny to a lot of black people. We appreciate him. He can make all these different relatable jokes and never be like. But I want to say the word nigga, can I say it? Can I have the? He made a joke about that too. He's like no, honestly, I don't need to say it in order to be funny. Like, just tell the story.

Speaker 4:

Yeah and so I waited to ask. But do y'all think Tiffany had it?

Speaker 5:

I think she a funny actress as a supporting actress. Sold on Tiffany she funny in her movies as a supporting actress. Not a main, not a main Supporting.

Speaker 2:

I put it at least for me. I think this. I thought she was pretty funny in some of the movies and stuff that she was in, but her stand-ups to me are funnier because she can sell better when it's her real life story versus the writing, the written stories that you can tell this was not her type of thing. So that's kind of a thing into that and because you supposed to be like comedic, you want to look at it funny. There's very few roles that she's done that. She's only been serious. Every role that she's been in it's still supposed to be kind of comedic in aspect, but at least to me I can feel when it she's not there.

Speaker 2:

My wife, on the other hand, has said that Tiffany had us is just not funny. She actually just does not like her. That's just this. Is it onto that one? There's not really much into it. She says she's never been funny to her. It's never anything that she's be. Every movie she's been in he's like it's just not funny to her. She's like she's not a funny woman. Not her girls trip was funny.

Speaker 5:

The movie was funny, but only in a support role. I feel like if she was in a movie and she was the star, it will flop, little flop, worse than a Marvel movie right now.

Speaker 1:

I mean to be fair is like there's only like so many people that can actually lead a movie. Hell, some people will say himself that where I was like, okay, quantum Mania Didn't do all that well, but to Paul Rudd's credit, at least he can carry a movie.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, but in retrospect. If you put I don't know Peter Quill in a movie by himself, shit a flop I'm trying to look up a movie.

Speaker 4:

You know what?

Speaker 1:

Hey, it's really funny that this is happening when we just did a review on Sonic Prime.

Speaker 2:

I'm not gonna lie though. Yes, she doesn't have. She's always been the main support. She's always out of being just a supporting actress like the main support of the main character. Even some of her recent movies back like back on the strip just came out last year she was support to the main Person, like the immediate, so she was like no support. And night school with Kevin Hart it was the story was about Kevin, and now, granted, she was also in it and she was also a main character, but her main role was supporting Kevin getting through everything. Why she was the teacher? See us, she doesn't have a movie that she's like the actual main character. That were following cuz it'll flop.

Speaker 5:

But let me tell you something. Kevin Hart funny as fuck.

Speaker 2:

Bruh To me now I can't say it's funny to me as funny to me now because he he's done the thing where cat has also specifically said that you got to keep your jokes fresh, not just keep reusing it. Okay, every segment.

Speaker 1:

Agree with cookie guys late, damn near everything. Kind of like Chris Pratt, what is it? I'm sorry, but it's kind of like that towards like. It's funny at first until I see the patterns where it just feels like, okay, at this point you just playing the same person in every role and that's it played out. Wait, what now?

Speaker 5:

the wedding ringer was a funny the wedding ringer was funny but I'm okay, but here's the thing though.

Speaker 3:

No, I wouldn't say. It's not that he's not funny. I feel like what Irving is now feel it. No, her every put in, every put, a word is exactly how I feel about Kevin is not like I. Like he say in the beginning listen, kevin used to have me dying rolling. I used to watch, yeah, but it's like I see, when I only got more popular, more famous. It's not that he wasn't as funny, it's like okay, I Know what to expect from you. Like yes, it's kind of like a rapper, like you know how he goes, you know what kind of beat he like, you know what type of Style. So it's like he kind of grew up to the point where he's not as funny as when I first Got introduced to him I got feel Irving's coming from. It's not that he's not funny, it's just that it's the same character.

Speaker 5:

Let's over it's because it's over saturated. Is he's ahead? He had more moves than Samuel Jackson.

Speaker 1:

No, he has, but no no, no, no, no, don't, don't say that by Sam. Okay, at least with Sam he.

Speaker 2:

Sam can sell it wrong Sam can sell it.

Speaker 5:

But look, when you've been in so many movies like you gotta, you gotta. Let me tell you, he one-sided. He a comedian. He's specifically a comedian. Samuel Jackson is an actor.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Kevin's been in movies, where he's played serious roles too.

Speaker 5:

Only some of them. Like he is, he's growing into it instead of somebody that's classically trained as an actor. Samuel Jackson didn't say Washington, you know me, you would. You know those freedom rules from them. Do you want them to exhibit and show different sides? Kevin's a baby. You want him to be funny because that's marketable for him. He's a comedian.

Speaker 1:

See, this is like Train not for I am legend.

Speaker 1:

Okay, I'm sorry, I'm just gonna spit this out real quick. It's like the reverse effect of you guys, certain actors and actresses, to where they got so stuck in this one role that they need to go into different roles to branch out, to show how much range that they got. Perfect example Daniel Radcliffe to where? Yet also Idris Elba like good example.

Speaker 1:

But I'll go say Daniel Radcliffe because we know him as Harry Potter for so fucking long that he gets to other movies and we can have a hard time trying to picture him as anything but Harry Potter. So that's why I'm saying like, when we get so used to certain people doing certain jokes and all that shit, that's what we know you as. So it's kind of hard to see that range unless you actually put yourself out there and just kind of felt like it's not the, it's not that all the case with Kevin, yeah, but that's the thing it's like with Kevin Horace, like yes, he's been in serious roles, but it's like it feels so new to us that it's like gonna take a heart. It's gonna take a while for it to like get used to him doing like other stuff other than like comic relief.

Speaker 5:

Did you see um, I'm gonna let you go co-pilot, but did you see Adam Sandler? He's a comedian to, not a train actor, but he was in a movie where he did a emotional movie about like 9, 11, the events that transpired.

Speaker 2:

Seeing click.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's kind of funny, but yeah, it got kind of pressing the second. Y'all had me that first ad, not good. Yeah, I'm having the first half, not gonna.

Speaker 2:

I Know for real, though, is one of those things like this is why I say Kevin to me is not as funny in this aspect. Okay is the fact that this same thing like earlier yes, I was rolling that wrong, falling out, laughing and stuff when I finally a comedian I like watching, I watched it, I will go and I find it stand-ups. When they get new stand-ups, I will be there. I will get notifications where they pops up on YouTube or I try to know, because Google gives you the Notification thing on this actor whenever something pops up. So the guy new special got released I'll watch it. That's just how I am on stuff. That's why I'm like following another comedian, josh.

Speaker 2:

Right now he's talking about a lot of latest events and that's. He's a comedian, just talks about things as it is right now. But and of course, ali Sadiq, I love Ali Sadiq. Obviously we gonna talk about him because Kat mentioned him, but real quick. The thing about it is about Kat is the fact that what I'm saying is like his jokes are Are there, are rewritten of the same joke, like in the end of the day, he has three main punchlines that he always wants to go into his kids, his ex-wife in his career and.

Speaker 1:

That's it like every single thing where it's a point to where Kevin Hart's brand is, where he's trying to be the guy to where, yes, I'm famous, but I'm still like an everyday man, like everyone else is.

Speaker 1:

So in other words, like just because I'm famous doesn't mean that I'm not no longer human. So it's like he's trying to make himself relatable to the common man despite his fame, but at the same time it's like you can only Go along with that for so long to where you gotta have to like branch out to other topics and whatnot you know. So that's why I can't feel it's like you can't see. That's why I'm same thing with John Mulaney. So we're out seeing a bunch of his comedy specials to where he talked about his wife and Other shit like, and then next you know you got that divorce and now it just feels like on some of the jokes that he said back then, kind of feels a little outdated because like he Made that such a big point in most of his sets that once you see him like like he's been happening and he's like he just Ages. It doesn't age well.

Speaker 2:

You want to talk about somebody whose life changed after getting a divorce Steve Harvey.

Speaker 1:

Wasn't that debunked like we did that in a nerdy news special to where yeah, um, no, okay, never mind. Never mind, I'm thinking of a Um different.

Speaker 2:

No, no, this, no, no, keep in mind. No, that's, that's real, that's real wait with Marjorie right. We just talked about the fact that something tragic always happens and then the person all of a sudden becomes big, famous again, becomes the number one talking thing again. That's how it always happens. It was last year, it was came the headline news that Steve Harvey and his now wife we're going to get a divorce, and it was headlines for like two weeks and then Steve Harvey Wind up clearing it up.

Speaker 2:

But that was a headline and it was gonna be okay. So is your new wife gonna be like? Well, she's the real reason I'm famous Right now.

Speaker 1:

They said both. There was in the bodyguard, in the poor guy.

Speaker 5:

VMe mistaken, I'm genuinely curious.

Speaker 2:

A DP Skip, skip, skip Mirror. Jane, should I look?

Speaker 5:

this up.

Speaker 2:

Only if you prepare.

Speaker 5:

It's a category. It's a category.

Speaker 2:

I'm gonna put it this way there's two versions I'm gonna go here. No, no, sorry, there's three versions of a DP, don't you understand? Okay, great, there's the double V, there's the double A, there's the VA and then there's the rotisserie.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, you can double M too, how do you do the?

Speaker 5:

rotisserie. How do you do a rotisserie?

Speaker 4:

Bro, bro, listen, listen, you get the oh bro, wait a minute, you get her like right here, and then you and your buddy. Oh my brain.

Speaker 1:

Oh the image in my head, oh, my God A drink.

Speaker 4:

Oh my God, I'm gonna go to the toilet. I'm gonna go to the toilet. I'm gonna go to the toilet. Oh my God, it's a drink.

Speaker 2:

Oh God, it's the fact that you had no idea what this was Wait.

Speaker 1:

I'm like hold on, you didn't. The moment Cook got to the rotisserie, I already know what the fuck he's talking about bro, I was literally he was taking a chicken.

Speaker 4:

I was like did?

Speaker 1:

you take a chicken. Well, let me put you like this they're gonna definitely stuff that fucking chicken.

Speaker 2:

You know what I'm saying? Oh, my God, we here, anyway, into wave Back to our notes.

Speaker 1:

All right, All right. Cedric, Can we talk about how oh Kat was saying that Cedric was stealing on his joke about the one with the car itself? He's a bro that has a spaceship.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, mm-mm. Cedric Entertainment went on social media. He went on one platform and everybody shared it everywhere else. That's my joke. He's been performing that since back in 1996. But then this is what became so funny. He responded on this, but the fans went back and confirmed that what Kat said could be true. They found the segment when Cedric first performed it back in 1996. And the year before, because Kat said two years, that that could be a stretch. It could be like almost two years, like a year and a half or something like that too. You can say almost two years. But it was only dated as far as the year. The year before Was when Cat Williams performed it, live performed it and got a recording onto it. So literally the first recorded segment of Cedric performing. That is at least a year after Cat did it. The fans went and found it and found what cat said to be true. That what got me. I was like mmm Cedric. The fans found the receipts. Man, what's he got to say?

Speaker 1:

Oh, well, you know, it's really funny how a lot you know pretty much like what cat was saying Um can allow. And you know the past definitely shows and can also talk about how, with Steve Harvey from responding on this segment on Family feud and took a page out TD Jakes book and talking about oh, I don't have to respond to my haters, I'll just wait to see what God is going to do, and I'm like a look at God showing all the receipts, so all the evidence.

Speaker 2:

Oh, Exactly, hold on real quick. One last thing about Cedric as well, cuz why I did put it in the nose so it can quickly get missed over. Guy Tory did wind up confirming that on that comedy night where um cat said that Guy Tory did said that, oh, cedric didn't perform and that Tiffany never performed the stuff. There's no footage as far as like proving Tiffany was performing only on black nights. However, there is a Netflix special coming up with guy Tory where he's talking about His comedy house and the life and stuff of it. It's supposed to be dropping this year but he did go ahead and release a footage Someone had recorded of him actually calling Cedric the entertainer on stage that night. So he's like no, cedric did actually get called on stage and did actually perform. The footage did not show Cedric performing, possibly because they're just saving it for the documentary, or maybe he just came on stage and what he said wasn't as funny. Well I don't know, but it did confirm into that aspect with cat and then he also proved pictures that During that there was a picture that guy Tory took with all the comedians that came to perform that night.

Speaker 2:

Cat Williams is in the picture on one side and Cedric is on. It's in the same picture on the other side as well as well. So when cat wanted saying that, oh he, that, um, cedric and Steve Harvey never showed up. We don't see any footage as far as Steve Harvey, but we do see foot like video footage and a picture that says Cedric actually was there and they were there at the same time. Cat Williams took a picture with him. So, whether you fully remember that or not, that's the whole thing, it's that aspect. So there was a couple things it's not many, but there was a couple things that wanted being questionable and One case definitely improving. No cat was wrong on this aspect, but I was pretty much it onto that. One Just wanted to quickly mention that. Oh no, you're talking about Steve Harvey now. He didn't, he didn't want to respond.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I mean that's it the funny thing is like it's really funny how cat was ripping into Steve more than anybody else. Oh, that's why I was saying in the group chat when we were talking to where it's like he was eviscerating on Steve compared to everybody else, like everybody else got off easy, like he might have got a light mention, but he really went in on.

Speaker 2:

Steve, you talk bad about Bernie Mac. You don't get no type of sympathy from me, I mean no candy for me.

Speaker 4:

It's funny you bring up Bernie Mac, because even Bernie Mac called the people up but he did it in a community skit. Say, people was stealing his jokes. Sam, I'm gonna make some jokes. Steve stole his jokes just like, but we thought it was you know, you think it's it, you think it's just Performing a joke or performing a skit, but he was dead.

Speaker 1:

Oh, can we also talk about with his daughter? And she was responding how people were trying to give Her dad flowers now that he's dead but would never give it to him while he was alive, and why I want everybody to love you and all that shit. Just a if you want everybody to love you, just that's a way, because that's the only way. No, you're gonna get any types of flowers. Yeah, it's easy to give lip service when they're dead first alive. And she was happy that, um, not only a lot of people were giving him his while where he was alive, but cat was doing the same as well.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, you know, black people really fucked with Bernie Mac. So, nigga, even before that, like his own stage antics, hit it.

Speaker 2:

See no with that, the point where before Bernie would mostly perform like we had some black comedians that would just go up and just say whatever it would cuss. They would say nasty stuff and everything to be R rated and only so many people will be able to listen to it. So it became like a little bit famous. But then for black people to become famous they still had to tone it down. Bernie Mac went up, those Bernie Mac and Eddie Murph who both said the segment of I'm not finna, whitewash my shit, I'm not finna, make it what you guys want it to be. I'm gonna go up and tell the truth. I'm gonna say it exactly how I want to fucking say it. And those two Made a big segment improving that you don't have to sugarcoat your shit, just it's.

Speaker 1:

In other words, ladies and gentlemen, take this home with you. Have the courage to be disliked.

Speaker 2:

Very much so.

Speaker 3:

If you don't got haters.

Speaker 1:

Preach it, playboy preach it but listen, you know what the funny thing about that is, like, listen, I'm not trying to flex or anything but it. I just think it's crazy and hindsight, how I had people hating on me for reasons that I just didn't understand. It's worse, like you know how you have people that just seem like they just hating on you out of nowhere. I was like where is this coming from? What is your problem with me? And I just blow it off for the most part because I'm like amen, whatever your problem with me, I'm pretty sure that, like, see his thing, we could have asked it out if you were just straight up with me. But nah, you was just hating the corners. Like there's something about me, apparently. So can I put it?

Speaker 2:

in this aspect, literally every, because you know me in the side from being fantasy, I love philosophy as well, too. Literally every religion. There's two things I could say off the top of my head that is the same in every religion you, every religion says you should still treat everybody else fairly. And every religion talks about the fact that if you're doing something Positive that will lead you towards God, enlightenment, anything positive, there's always a negative force that brings you back. Even science, even science said the same thing. The more you lead to, the more you're pushing towards positive that you're pushing against negative to get there. Every single time, science says it.

Speaker 2:

And Buddhism, and in Hinduism, the more that you try to reach Nirvana or reach enlightenment, that means you're going to face more challenges. In Christianity and Judaism, muslim, the more you try to find God, the more the enemy is going to attack you. Literally every Single religion says the same thing. The more you lean in towards a positive goal or towards a goal that's supposed to be like a big thing for you, any type of growth and change, you will always be met with a negative force. Every religion says it. There's not a single one that does it.

Speaker 1:

This explains the past 10 years.

Speaker 5:

And then, if we take your anime into consideration, in my, in my Senku voice, I'm one billion percent sure that for every action there's an equal or opposite reaction. Exactly, I mean oh.

Speaker 1:

I put to y'all like this, where it's like you're trying to do good but then other people trying to ruin you, trying to drag you down with you, you just gotta Walk away and just sing Double. You can't have me. Double, you can't have me. The devil thought he had me.

Speaker 5:

Go, but I'm gonna.

Speaker 2:

There, you go Old folks say. They say, don't worry to thrive. You know, that's what I'm saying Don't get me double-dried.

Speaker 4:

Exactly. If you don't thrive, you'll thrive.

Speaker 2:

And again, if you're not pushing towards that positive, that growth, the devil already got you, the negative force already got you, y'all never been like sleep.

Speaker 5:

And then the hag rides. You and you, just, you just be Landed and you can't move. Oh, paralysis. Bro, yeah, the hag was riding. Yeah, I hate when they have you.

Speaker 2:

You know, every religion talks about that too as well, about like when you're having trouble sleeping, when you're sleeping you can't move, and shit like that. Japan goes really far with it. They have like two separate demons for it. They have a paralysis demon, then they have a demon that switches your pillow around. That To the cold.

Speaker 5:

To the cold.

Speaker 2:

Yes, oh, that's good, I think that's a demon, that's what you mean to the cold side. But sometimes a demon will move the pillow from your head to your feet.

Speaker 4:

Oh, that's cool.

Speaker 2:

Bro, that's fucked up, or just throw it off the bed. So apparently, like in old school Japan I don't think modern Japan believes it now, but old Japan used to believe that every time you woke up and your pillow was on the ground, your pillow was on the feet or your pillow was off you it was because it was a demon just dudging it over, moving it around.

Speaker 5:

Look at that bitch's ass in the sleep. How dare you sleep? I wish I could sleep.

Speaker 4:

I wish I could sleep in 10,000 years?

Speaker 5:

Nigga, nigga, drooling and shit.

Speaker 1:

I'm so full of regret and anger and I can't pass on until people do right by me, and I'm not gonna let y'all have any peaceful sleep until y'all do right by me Fuck your couch that fucked, but no. Some poultry taste.

Speaker 5:

Hey cus what happened to your couch cus.

Speaker 4:

I have to chew your fart in your cus.

Speaker 5:

Fuck your couch, kiesha. I don't give a fuck, kiesha.

Speaker 2:

Look, look, look honestly. This is funny because remember Kat did talk about Prince as well too.

Speaker 4:

I'm about to put that into the video you love Prince.

Speaker 2:

Prince was like very cool. He said Prince was that type of person that was sneaking in and like he was about to move out. Your whole house would be renovated before you get back and like it was like this nigga was never there. You're like what? This was not my house before. Like wait a second.

Speaker 3:

Everything completely changed.

Speaker 2:

I'm not gonna lie, that's the type. At first I was thinking that was petty and I'm like that's the type of petty I want to be on. Let me move and make it seem like I was never there. Actually, the past four years was nothing but a dream. It was all a dream.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Right, I applaud you. But I also wanted to mention, as far as about the whole positive negative reaction thing, both Kat and Steve Harvey wound up saying it. So Steve pretty much like pretty much just like wound up saying the same thing back in itself. He's like why would I respond to negativity? If I respond, that just means I'm giving it more fuel. He said I'm just gonna sit back and just let guy move. That's just what happens. Guy, help me get to this position. He's gonna help me move forward. Nigga copied TDJakes when Epstein List came out and it said TDJakes was on there and that he was having a relationship with other boys. Tdjakes went on to church the very next Sunday and was like y'all want me to. I said I'm not gonna respond to lies, but reason why I'm talking to that guy, I got to get it Wait wait, wait.

Speaker 4:

I just heard that in TDJakes voice and that shit was funny as hell.

Speaker 5:

Have you ever been swallowed but?

Speaker 1:

hold on. It's really funny how y'all say that Because earthquake himself. Will Crawford was saying that if you chime in you're only making it more valid and he was also saying that some stuff may have been far fetched, but he knows that Kat was extremely talented, that Kat gave him the best compliment, that he became famous on his stand-up alone. Steve Harvey has done a lot but still hasn't helped him in getting into a movie and upset that he hasn't been on Club Strait yet. But Shannon mentioned the great Said that everyone coming on socials acting guilty. But then you have people like Mike Elf and I'm like I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 4:

I was kinda jealous, but Mike Elf says he made that situation work for him. That's all funny.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I need some celebrity too. I got a special coming out. I need some people to know about it too.

Speaker 4:

Say something bad about me, Kat, I felt I'm gonna tell you what I think is crazy. What I did notice is nobody ever talks bad about the man Nobody, at least that's what I've heard, or the act. No one says anything bad about Marlon Lans or any other Wayne family.

Speaker 2:

I don't know the Wayne family has gone broke. But it's not just that. The Wayne family has gone broke, bringing people up Like guaranteed their movies, even to some of the movies they've done.

Speaker 3:

Yeah that's really hell.

Speaker 5:

Bruce Wayne got all that money back too.

Speaker 2:

But even movies that didn't sell well or something like that, they probably weren't the best, like the first two scary movies that a lot of people just loved. The third one some people say was Ann and the fourth one was just like now. You kinda push it too much. They still made sure that actresses were paid.

Speaker 5:

Well, they still made sure that shit happened. They paid a lot of money. When did they sell the movie or when did they leave the franchise? What movie?

Speaker 2:

was that.

Speaker 5:

It was the second one After the second one, yeah.

Speaker 1:

That's probably why it went down too. Hold on. Scary movie 3 was still kinda funny, but that's when, after the third one, that's when I kinda checked out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's what I was saying, but yeah, it's like even as far as that Don't Be Adminous and stuff like that Don't Be Adminous first came out. Only black people watched it. But not many people watched it Because it was a play on hood movies and so it wasn't as popular Not only men.

Speaker 5:

Now it's the South Central, while Dr K O Juicin the hood. Exactly the whole title baby, the whole title. Don't Be Adminous.

Speaker 1:

Y'all remember that one movie that Marlin did Sensitive, yeah, davis Bay, yeah, I liked that one.

Speaker 5:

It was another one. It was another one. Yes, blank man. Oh my god, bruh.

Speaker 1:

No, no, no. Hold on. That was, that was hold on. That was Damon, that was Damon weighing it.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, the one with Marlin when he was playing the basketball star that had died. Or his brother, his brother died, or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, it was another one where he was like a. It was like a, a side, he was a science experiment or something like that.

Speaker 2:

No, that was, that was senseless oh that was senseless yeah that was senseless oh yeah yeah, yeah yeah, I didn't know, that one, but no, it's like you can't say nothing bad about the one that was on the hood, because the Wayne Brigadier's house.

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry, I'm sorry, bud, who the fuck can't forget? Uh, fuck, a major pain.

Speaker 2:

Oh my god, that movie will live forever.

Speaker 5:

I'm trying to tell you do that shit, do that shit, do it.

Speaker 4:

Yes, that's my movie, Bro, every time.

Speaker 1:

I hear that song. I thought you were gonna kick me in the face with that your left foot. I don't know you calling me a liar.

Speaker 4:

One girl gonna pay for the blood.

Speaker 5:

Somebody gonna pay for this blood From my lip, don't know who it was. One tubby tubby, two tubby tubby.

Speaker 2:

Twenty three hour days of full of fun and adventure.

Speaker 4:

I'm gonna make you boys proud. We used to win that.

Speaker 1:

This mean over and over.

Speaker 4:

And she would be like one tubby and I'm on the ground, tubby, tubby.

Speaker 5:

Like yes, did I ever tell you the story of the little engine that could, could.

Speaker 1:

Hey, I wanna show you a little trick with your finger.

Speaker 2:

You take your mind off that thing.

Speaker 1:

Hey baby come on. Hey, shout out to Orlando bro.

Speaker 5:

He was a little kid in there too.

Speaker 1:

Hey, yeah, yeah, I just wanna fucking trip him.

Speaker 2:

He did actually scar that kid cause the kid was not actually prepared, even though it was in the script I was just the funniest thing his parents still approved it and he did actually get a little scar.

Speaker 5:

And Hillary was smart in that movie, bro, my equals.

Speaker 2:

Aw yeah, man Cause, to be honest, hillary was always dumb in everything. Fresh Prince and Braille in there, oh look. But no, I was like You're not gonna hear nothing bad about the Wings. The Wings, the whole family, the brothers and sisters. They, specifically all their whole family Always does something positive, even if things don't like, may not want to push them. Well, they have talked about they had wound up having moments where their money was kinda low and stuff like that and they still just they kept pushing through Like you can't hear nothing bad about them, because the only bad you would hear is the situations they went through. But as they don't talk bad about nobody, they just keep the most positive into it. You're not gonna hear nothing about that.

Speaker 5:

That's a talented ass family bro, Most of them. But who finna feed all them damn kids? You know how much grits you gotta make.

Speaker 4:

They gotta keep making that.

Speaker 2:

I mean that's really funny Because like between the Wings and the Rocks you know Chris Rock and his family, like there's a whole bunch of them, if I can if I can go ahead and mention Since we're talking about positivity and stuff Cause one of the things that Kat wound up saying as well Is about the fact that, um cause Shannon had asked him, he said there's been some people and he didn't want to drop names or anything. He said there's been some people that has come on here and said that Kat would indiscriminately give them money To the point where they and they wouldn't know about it. They wouldn't know that it was him. What I liked about it is that. So two of those people wound up coming forward on social media. It was actually Deion Cole in Boothie. So Deion wound up talking about this fact that he said Kat, he was the one that actually was on the Shannon Sharp Show and he specifically recalled this exact same story that Shannon and Kat was talking about, where Kat was like how would you feel if a pretty woman just came by and gave you some money and kept it moving type of thing? That was Deion.

Speaker 2:

He said literally he was on a segment and what wound up happening was that while he was backstage, she said that this girl came up. He had no idea who she was. She just slipped him something in his hand and he thought he was like, oh, sharda gave me her number and shit. Oh, okay, I'm by there, I got me some play. But he said he opened his hand and it was a thousand dollars. And he was like what? And he's like yo, who gave me this? Like, who gave you this? Who gave me this money? And he's like, who do I say thank you to?

Speaker 2:

And he said it was years, years before he finally found out, because he said he was in another segment and that happened to somebody. That was also happened to somebody else and they was talking about it. And he was like, yeah, but I never found out who did it. He said, dude, that was Kat. He said Kat wins, does that all the time. He just gives the money to one of his girls and they just come and they just drop it to you Because he never wants credit and nothing like that. Like people just don't know and so that's just what Kat do. And then Boosie Boosie was literally talking about the fact. He said, no matter what Kat will, he will always have Kat's back. Because when Boosie got out of the room, I'm sorry.

Speaker 1:

I just want to spit this one out real quick Because, before I forget, can I mention, like Somewhere related to where you just kind of wish Someone would be looking out for you, give you like a little bit of money Just for you to help you out that one part where Kat was talking about when Taraji P Henson came out and said that hey, y'all, they're not really paying us. Like I've just been taking it for years, like they just pay us just as much as the new girl, and I just been quiet about it. But I just wanted to come out and say this is wrong and I'm like fuck. See, this is what the SAG Afro strike Was pretty much about in my opinions, where I'm like yo between yeah it's like between that and people not getting paid.

Speaker 1:

I'm like fuck dude, like Fuck, like yeah so yeah, like when you Like what Kat was saying, like oh, why are you people about people coming up to you, give me a little bit of money for yourself? Hell, yeah, because like it'd be tough out here, like they're not paying us.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I have been blessed that that's happened Because, like my life situation these past couple years have just been straight up shit. And JB, you know, yeah, yeah, literally is the fact that I actually do have a friend who wound up coming into some money and right now he's like he's single, he ain't got no kids and he's starting up a business, but he has like extra money to wear. Every now and again he just slides some over and he's like, hey, let me help you out. Like honestly, right now, literally as a gift, he just got me and my wife a brand new bed. I've been sleeping on a busted mattress for like years now and so he literally, like he just got, he just sent us a brand new bed, brand new frame, brand new sheets, a brand new comforter, a complete like set.

Speaker 1:

No more bed sores for me.

Speaker 2:

Like these past couple days I've been sleeping like shit. I had not been wanting to skip my alarms. I still got to get up and get the kids to school, but I didn't want to get out of bed. I'm like nice.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, slug, slug, slug.

Speaker 2:

So like, but no, yeah, I've been blessed into that and yeah, like, I feel exactly how it is that, like Dion and what Boosie was saying. And so like Boosie, because he was saying how, you know, the whole time he was in jail he would see all the people like Free Boosie, free Boosie and shit like that. He said as soon as you got in jail, not one of them damn people Tried to slide him. No money tried to help him out, none like that. He was still homeless when he came out Because many people, many celebrities, was like Free Boosie.

Speaker 2:

He said not one person tried to help him out, tried to help give him a home.

Speaker 2:

But he said one time, after he went on to a performance and he saw that Cat Williams was actually at his performance, he said what wound up happening was he was in his car, cat Williams was driving by in his car, driving by, I think he was in the limo.

Speaker 2:

I don't remember exactly what he said, what he was driving, but he said what happened was is that cat drove by and threw the shit and just threw the money into the car and just kept driving on. And so he was confused when he looked at it and it was 15 bands, 15 G. That cat just threw in his car and he's like and he knew it was cat. He could never really go like, actually go up and be like, oh, thank you so much. Thank you so much because cat didn't care about that, just gave him the money and kept it moving. He did fantastic, he was front rowing his show. So he gave him the money, he literally paid for the ticket and then gave him an extra 15 G bonus on top of that. He said cat's the only person that has done that for him since he been out of jail Damn.

Speaker 4:

So it's like I think it's even a show like cat doing that too. But Boosie does the same thing with me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he said that's when he inspired him Was because of the fact that cat did that to him. He was like I gotta do shit, I gotta do shit for my family, like that. That's just what it is. It's like sometimes that's just that positive and knowing that you can just help somebody, you don't have to do it for thank you, you don't have to do publicity, oh, I donate. There's such a such donating. He said no matter. He said they gave him the money and kept moving forward.

Speaker 1:

Because Playboy, just so make sure he's not being left out. How you feeling about this so far? Like you want anything to add on to all this Playboy, you still there.

Speaker 2:

He's silent and amazement.

Speaker 1:

Alright, well, you know, just thought that. But um okay, well, I'll keep going.

Speaker 2:

No, no, no, that was it on today. It's just like that's pretty awesome. Into that one, I will say. I think I did add this on to it as well too. So Kwame Brown wound up also responding as well about cat being ganged up on so quickly. Every person responded and just did so so quickly. There's also one of the ones that picked on Luda for his response. We're gonna talk about that one too. And oh, brah brah, I'm being honest with you on Lavel Crawford, like wound up telling him he said he responded with a jingle. A jingle, Nick Lavel.

Speaker 3:

Crawford so fucking funny.

Speaker 2:

Look, he's very funny, but yes, but he also said that. You noticed that, like pretty much everybody. But, however, cedric and Ali Sadiq did wound up specifically saying that cat was alive. However, cedric was proven wrong, but Ali's story gave a little bit slight, gave a different version of it To where you can believe that both sides is true, but they just they had no idea of what the other side, what's happening on the other side, and because they didn't know, it just got confused.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, Ali Sadiq is one of my favorite comedies. He's one of the greatest storytellers.

Speaker 2:

Bruh, I will never forget. Run your hands through your head.

Speaker 5:

What Um thaw Run your hands through your head, he said, and I already called my momma Telling her ain't cold, I'm gonna kill this nigga. I'm gonna be here for life.

Speaker 2:

Your run ain't coming home. Bruh straight. Yes, ali's stories are fucking hilarious. Love that shit.

Speaker 5:

But no, uh, did you see his two latest stand up specials on YouTube?

Speaker 2:

I did, you know I did. I told y'all when I follow comedies I get notified when this shit drops. But um, but he also. But Kwame Brown also called out specifically Kevin Hart as well. An interview as well to. On his interview Was the fact that, literally, um, you can like date time, date it into it.

Speaker 2:

So when Kevin Hart put on the dress Before that um segment that he wound up doing, it was two years before Kevin Hart said On the live performance on his standup that he said that he, his comedic, is his brand, His life is his brand and he would never tarnish that brand. He would. You will never catch him in a dress, Because that would tarnish his brand. Two years later, Kevin Hart's in the dress, Just like Whoa shit. But for real, though, it's like. And then like, so, even like Kat's story talking about oh yeah, Big Mama, House 2. And he's like oh yeah. He said I remember all these little movies, all these little roles. They came to me first, but I was like, can I make a little tweak in it? And then, no, he's like, uh, they just went on to somebody else.

Speaker 1:

But it's still hey um In the dress Mm-mm.

Speaker 1:

Speaking of which? Speaking of, uh, comics and whatnot, um, how Shannon was talking about, um, cancel culture, and how comedians are getting canceled, like with what was going on with Matt Reif I was mentioning that at some point on the podcast, but how, like Matt Reif was saying some jokes and like it's almost like, in a way, some of the jokes were like Almost like he was trying to get canceled, but it was, in a way, I feel like Matt Reif was trying to prove a point, the way Some comedians do it, the way you push the boundaries on what's funny or whatnot, and I don't think what he was saying was all that offensive. But at the same time, it seems like, um, it's just crazy how these comedians are being put to a standard, to where, oh, you're not allowed to tell jokes about this, that or the third. And I'm like, well, if you can't laugh at yourself, what can we laugh at? Like you know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

Um Me. Okay, that's what we called out like about the first rock slap, Will Smith.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and it's like, bro, Even to this day, like when I know I said what I said on the podcast when I was, um, while I was doing like a double featured sort of thing With Shimaneta on the podcast, like y'all can, Ladies and gentlemen, listen to this, y'all can go back to the um Old episodes and see what I said about that. But point being is that, um, the joke that Chris was saying, like it wasn't even that bad. It's like, yeah, you know, um, Jada, you know she was. She didn't have hair at the time, so I'm like he was just cracking a joke about that and not to make her feel bad or whatnot, but it like it took one side-eye from Jada. Jeff Warrong Will to be like, oh, I gotta defend my wife.

Speaker 2:

I mean defend, defend his separation Apparently, for what Jada said.

Speaker 1:

But hold on, hold on. He said keep my wife's name out to a fucking mouth.

Speaker 5:

That's a motherfucking mouth bitch. That's what he had to say.

Speaker 2:

And she said we weren't even. He's like we're not even married.

Speaker 5:

They're not even together.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I'm saying here like yo, hey, yo, this man defended you and that's how you feel.

Speaker 5:

You didn't even entangle me if they wasn't together.

Speaker 4:

Yes, it was an entanglement.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, it was.

Speaker 5:

It was the sun's frame.

Speaker 1:

Because, no, no, no see, because it's still entanglement, Because she's not putting labels on that shit. True, she didn't want to put the label on he still says why it's like you still put labels.

Speaker 2:

She's the one.

Speaker 1:

No, no, she's not putting any labels on her entanglement with August. So if there's not an actual like relationship going on, it was just calling entanglement.

Speaker 4:

I was cheating. She was just like we had an entanglement. There was entanglement.

Speaker 1:

Really. And no, see the look on Will's face when he's like, yeah, an entanglement, that's what we're calling it now.

Speaker 2:

Entanglement in shoots is a big stretch Because apparently she and Will have not been in the same house either. But August Alcena has found his way with what you saying.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, he was drinking all the juice, eating all the cereal.

Speaker 4:

Alcena confirmed they were still living in the same house, because he's even said that he came downstairs and asked Will. So they were living in the same house.

Speaker 5:

So damn, that's crazy. He came downstairs he was like, hey, what's that at, Bro? I just broke up back off something serious, Bro, she kind of tired right now. But he put that girl some water, some orange juice in the moist towel.

Speaker 1:

Bro. It's funny because in hindsight this makes the whole thing with Destiny a little less tame, because at least when it was like, okay, at least when his wife left him for Dollar Store Ezra Miller, it was like in a entirely different apartment. It was like you had to do living with you. There you go yeah, part so that's my thing, though.

Speaker 4:

Like, if you look at that situation and not to get too off topic, but he was living there because he was quote unquote sick, which I'm not denying that he was ever picked, but that's why he moved in with them, because they were paying to take care of him. He had lost the ability to walk, like he was really losing a lot of his faculties. Hold on hold on.

Speaker 2:

He lost the ability to walk. But he shown them being losing the ability to break backs Hell. Nah, let's just analyze this though.

Speaker 5:

You got a side burger in the house with you N***a can't walk and you taking care of him. That shit ain't addin' up the math, not mathin'.

Speaker 1:

And also wasn't they saying, oh well, you know, mentally August was just not in the good space right now and Jay was like trying to comfort him and whatnot? It's even worse if it kinda felt like, oh well, you were just taking advantage of him. And a moment of weakness.

Speaker 5:

It was a moment of strongness too.

Speaker 2:

Couple of I'm only puttin' this aspect. Jayden and his mom's relationship has been very different since then.

Speaker 4:

But it's crazy because if you looked at it, their relationship had already been kinda. Jayden moved out when he was 15.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 5:

Jayden ain't bringin' no more friends to the house, but look.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I was thinkin' it's the same thing. I'm like, hey man, I'm not bringing my friends right.

Speaker 5:

You know, one of his friends who made a song about his dad will, Was join the Lucas. So I'm wonderin' Join the Lucas then got some of that.

Speaker 1:

It's like, hey, jayden, we should hang out sometime. I'm like no, we don't.

Speaker 5:

I'm tryin' to be friends with Jayden. I'm like Jayden. What's up, bro? Maybe Jayden wants to never with our.

Speaker 4:

Jordaner at the house, though Maybe that's why.

Speaker 5:

He might be next.

Speaker 4:

Oh, it's too well. You know he was datin' to Shanti, so that was just for that one music video.

Speaker 5:

That was just for that music video.

Speaker 2:

Where's something that he?

Speaker 5:

wore.

Speaker 4:

No that wasn't datin'.

Speaker 5:

No, everybody thought that because of the music video where there was tongue kiss.

Speaker 4:

Well, they were hangin' out prior to the thing too, though yeah they made the stand to make the song.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, that's just kinda thing, it's like one. Shanti told us that Shanti should have never get married. They are?

Speaker 1:

I thought they wore already. It's like having a work husband or a work wife. We're only in a relationship only for this thing, but after that we're goin' a separate way, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Okay, okay, that's fine, it's another situation. Shit we got you. Yeah, I got a work wife too my work wife cool as hell yeah you talk about this.

Speaker 2:

Good lord, alright, hold on Alright. So, look, we definitely got a couple more segments. I gotta get ready to get off pretty soon. I'm starting to get a little late. I know there wasn't a big thing for Jay-Z. Jay-z just made a tweet and people just started going all into it. He said literally what Jay-Z responded. That was crazy. He didn't actually say cat, that was crazy. He said that was crazy and people was goin' in. He said what. You think you need to be focusin' more and not cheatin' on your wife Instead of looking at these videos, bitch.

Speaker 5:

I'm gonna eliminate.

Speaker 4:

I still wanna know who Becky was. I need to know.

Speaker 5:

Oh, we already know, it's Iggy Azalea. It was Iggy.

Speaker 1:

Bro, that'd be really funny if it was Iggy, because you know, like now, I haven't heard of Iggy in a while.

Speaker 2:

Until I found an OC on Ong fans. Okay, Keep in mind this. You also didn't hear from her ever since Lemonade came out, Cause people started thinking it now.

Speaker 5:

I was just makin' some shit up. No, don't worry.

Speaker 1:

Oh shit, professor Tuck, you might be on to somethin' my boy Damn, am I psychic. Because, the thing about it is. It was either gonna be Iggy or it was gonna be Nah, not Professor Tuck, Prophet Tuck.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, you, alright, that's my new name, professor Tuck the Prophet. That's why you're Tuck.

Speaker 4:

Stop it, stop even getting together yeah.

Speaker 2:

Professor Tuck, Stop giving him titles. So you don't need the chosen one.

Speaker 5:

You know what I mean, oh my god.

Speaker 4:

Iggy of all those known and unknown.

Speaker 2:

Ain't you missin' some shots, Mary Jane?

Speaker 5:

I ain't even sayin' shit, I ain't sayin' shit.

Speaker 4:

Don't say that I'm three shots man. I'm tipsy as hell. Let me walk on the whiteway.

Speaker 1:

Damn, that's a shame. Like see, that's the funniest thing is I don't drink that much, but I found out the hard way that I'm a heavyweight. It's gonna take a while before I get really fucked up.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, I'm blamein' the US Army for my high tolerance Mm-mm, mm-mm, mm-mm.

Speaker 4:

My tolerance is now gone. I have no one to be with someone in the Navy for a long time. See, that's why people are saying Like you drink fireball, like it's fucking, like you're a fucking Fireball, like it's fucking, like fucking water.

Speaker 1:

I'm like hey man, like hey. I mean it's not like ever clear with some shit.

Speaker 2:

That's what it is, look, moving back into it. But yeah, jay-z got that little big moment on to himself. We did wind up having a moment, so we gotta talk about Luda real quick and then we finally get into Ali. But Luda wound up making a little rap. Luda Make a little rap verse. So first thing you understand is when is his break? So when's the last time Luda made a song Like real talk? So what you understand, keep in mind this is I want you to understand what happened real quick. Okay, so it's been a minute and that's what a lot of people joked on to. Luda was making the actors money.

Speaker 1:

The only song that comes to mind is Georgia. Yeah, georgia, georgia.

Speaker 2:

He came out with another song. He did come out with another single after that, but no, it's been a hot ass minute. Okay, so it's been a long time. So this dude has not said, and he's really just been making the actors money, been making residual money, and that was about it. So understand him just quick of what was going on, cause I started putting some of this together Myself onto this, so he made this To be like in his rap verse that he said he's pretty much saying that Kat needs to stop overstepping.

Speaker 2:

He earned all of his royalty checks. Now Luda, in his verse, never Defended his wife. Keep that in mind, watch the whole thing Twice. And he never really defended his wife. Keep that in mind on that one. But he also Was. He literally specifically ended it In saying In his jingle he said Comedians need to watch their temperature. So he knows it's saying Kat overstepping, obviously. And then he's like I've earned all of my Fast and furious checks. That was not from no Illuminati shit or nothing like that. I earned all of that stuff myself. I did what I was supposed to do. That's pretty much an adjust of what he wound up saying. But he got called out by everybody and the fact, like you, ain't made music in forever and you decided I'm going to respond with a rap. I'm going to respond.

Speaker 1:

See, that's like. That's like you remember when Andre 3000 came out and said hey man, there's really no point in me Coming out with new music, it is what it is. It's like Let me just phase out gracefully. I'm like hey man, you don't have to Pull yourself out there like that. You could just put what you said and a tweet, and then we would be.

Speaker 2:

Well, no, he was asked that in the interview. That's why he said it. Why are you not making more music right now? Why is that? Your latest album came out. It's just music. You're not Rap and you're not doing any type of spoken word that you had, like you don't have any of your, any of your voices, anything in there. It's just music. And that's why he responded the way. So he was, he was, he was, he was asked the questions that way. But yeah, no, I and that's one of the things I fully respect in today he's like you know, I can't. There's nothing else for me to say so.

Speaker 2:

And then that was kind of how I worked out for Luda a little bit, but this is something that also happened as well too. As soon as that, that little jingle happened Okay, luda has a new commercial that just came out. I don't remember what the product is. I actually don't, cause that was not the important thing to. I didn't care about the product, so y'all need to do a better commercial or whatever that product is, if y'all listen. But anyway, what got me onto it was the fact that it was very specific that it was white people making jokes about his music. It was supposed to be just a little light funny, but that happened specifically after he had his jingle. So now you getting trolled on and you just making money off the troll, of course, like Wanda saying I'll cry the tears in my Ferrari. He milked on that publicity Cause it's been a minute. You haven't really seen Luda in commercials and, unlike that, he's been living on his residuals and now he just started making another one again.

Speaker 2:

Right after he said what it was a state farm commercial. Now I remember cause it was shown up. Jake showed up at Eden Yep. What are you wearing?

Speaker 1:

Jake from state farm.

Speaker 2:

That's right, cause the house flooded. I can't remember now. The commercial was okay, then you got me, or James remembers this. That's fine, let us slide.

Speaker 4:

I just remember cause Jake was at the end.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I hadn't seen Jake the state farm in a while too. I had a missing that commercial, like all the commercials. I ain't even seen him, but anyway. But no, it was like, yeah, he wound up milking that publicity. He wound up, boom, got a commercial right after that. So it's like it's still pretty funny. And then, of course, he had his little jingle. You know, like a good neighbor state farm is there. Oh, congratulations, you just milked. On the jingle situation, you know y'all saying I'm gonna make a jingle, I'm gonna make money off a jingle, boom, there we go. I just found that pretty interesting itself. I'm like, okay, making money off of it Still was a jingle, though. Still ain't ready to defend your wife though, just saying that out there.

Speaker 4:

That's what she is. She's straight and face. Okay, straight and face. I'll leave that alone.

Speaker 1:

See, it's really funny that y'all saying all this, but I feel like remember this the Apodart Park. Well, this might be a freebie for public, you know, just to be a little teaser of what you can expect on the Apodart.

Speaker 4:

but let's just be real here.

Speaker 1:

Ladies and gentlemen, let's be real here. You can say trophy wives. You can say that's what they are, that's how it is.

Speaker 4:

It's not worth the trophy, though I ain't giving them that I'm a trophy.

Speaker 5:

I'm a trophy wife, I'm a trophy medal, same. Thing.

Speaker 4:

They don't even deserve Ribbon. Ribbon there you go there, you go.

Speaker 1:

You know what a participator is Talks.

Speaker 4:

Please Participate, that's what they get.

Speaker 5:

A participation certificate?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I hope it's on the thick paper.

Speaker 4:

God damn y'all I'm talking about that thin, thin and paper.

Speaker 5:

No, we got that one written on paper.

Speaker 1:

No, no, they're more like that gift card certificate that you get just for hey. At least you tried.

Speaker 2:

Come on y'all.

Speaker 4:

Y'all remember that free pizza gift card y'all used to give for reading the AR book? Damn.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, you know, I even want a little gift card.

Speaker 5:

I had a hell of a pizza.

Speaker 4:

Me too. Me too, pizza hut knew my name.

Speaker 2:

Damn, you know, I don't even remember her name, waddoxy. Wait, how do you pronounce this?

Speaker 5:

You know what I'm just so? I'm so mad. It's this lady. You know I was in the gifted classes, right, and I was always doing reading all the AR books. You know I love Harry Potter, so I was reading all the Harry Potter books, getting hella points. Them bitches was like 150 points, but nevertheless it was just one person that always beat me. I was always number two, never could get number one, and I'm still mad at her to this date. To this date, I should call her name out here because I'm so mad.

Speaker 5:

It started with an S, it was Waddoxy.

Speaker 4:

I was so mad.

Speaker 2:

It was Waddoxy. I thought it was Waddoxy. I think I know what it is because I was number three.

Speaker 4:

I used to be mad too, Love.

Speaker 1:

Like I'm going to be honest with y'all, with the AR reading shirt uh, accelerated reading. I like the parts where you get all those different tags. You know like I was trying real hard to get like the dog bone and all that. You remember those shirts.

Speaker 2:

Look at the end of the day. N'wishmo yeah At the end of the day none of us has read 3,000 books a year.

Speaker 5:

That's a lot of goddamn books. I used to read hella books, so y'all assuming that at like fourth, fifth grade, that we're just reading nothing but books, thank you.

Speaker 1:

When we have TV and video games and the energy, I'm not going to lie to you though I'm not going to lie to you, though.

Speaker 2:

My daughter reads hella lot of books. She reads a hella lot of books Like on some real shit. She can pick up chapter novels and she'll be done with like two or three of them in one day and it will tell me exactly what happened in the story, her favorite characters and why it is that they're her favorite characters and shit.

Speaker 1:

Like she actually read this shit and it's really funny that y'all are missing this because Kat Williams well, at least Shannon was telling Kat was like, hey, I remember you were saying like you were at three years old, you could read, read, not like those children books, but Actually yes, so as long as you actually read.

Speaker 2:

so this is one, we're going to go ahead and drop it to a quick parenting session. You read 3,000 a year.

Speaker 1:

Look it's even plus the only parents right here.

Speaker 2:

I'm pretty sure Tuck can attest to this, and this is actually something very crucial, okay, this is why I'm mentioning this part as my daughter being able to read very well, so something that my wife has really has been very keen on. We do this with all of our children and this is why this is important. Okay, so, literally, literally, okay. If you don't baby talk your children, you actually give real words. Now and oh, like Passy Wassy or this and this, no, say the actual words, because the more you say it, your kids want to talk like you. They respect you. You're the parents. That's how it works. Okay, so this is why this is important.

Speaker 2:

At three years old, my eldest daughter could count money better than most people, like real shit. She could give her nickels, dimes, quarters, dollar bills and she could count exact change better than any cashier that you could think about. And that was at three years old. I have video proof of it. My wife literally did a video of it. She recorded. She recorded our daughter doing this. She was on the bed, had a little cash register and was counting the money. Today, earlier today, on this day of recording, I have a recording on my phone right now my youngest son can say the full alphabet in English and in Spanish Correctly.

Speaker 5:

Little Einstein, all the board get ready to explore. My daughter at three could spin around in a circle and tell me Daddy, look at this.

Speaker 4:

There's nothing wrong with that.

Speaker 2:

There's nothing wrong with that, but it's one of those things that's like, as long as you encourage into it and stuff. So that's just the thing. Like literally, each of my kids want to do different things they're talking about right now. They actually want to be doctors and stuff like that. My youngest son he doesn't say he wants to be a doctor, but he says he wants to really. Like actually it's funny he says he wants to be a taxi driver and help people. And I was like you know what? Live your dreams, son, that's what you want to do. And right now, right, and right now you can talk to kids in English and Spanish. Boom, look at that.

Speaker 2:

And then my eldest son he only watched one video and he already knows more ASL sign language than I do Like literally, he literally would just walk to me, daddy, he's like, remember how you told me, when you rub your stomach like this, that you're like oh, that means you're hungry. I was like, yeah, he said that's not what hungry is. Hungry is when you do this and he showed it to me. Then he showed me he says this is yes, this is no, and this is how you say I'm ready and stuff. And I'm like, and he only watched this video one time, just once, and he already knows this, and he does it every day and I'm sitting here like I have to part parents and guys.

Speaker 4:

Right, I'm just, I'm just, I'm curious.

Speaker 5:

They got access to so much information now, bro. We didn't have access to this shit, the snap was a fucking finger.

Speaker 2:

So funny enough actually. So I did want to be a doctor when I was a kid and so what my mom did was she spent a lot of money onto it. I wanted to be a neurosurgeon. My mom spent I think it was like I think at the time it was like $500 something and at that time if you compare it to inflation, that's roughly about $1,200 right now. So it was a hell of a lot of money On an entire medical encyclopedia 15 books that she bought from me so I could read and learn about it because of the fact that I so badly wanted to be a doctor. She said you can read it within your own time and I sat down and read the books. So it was something that was fun that I just did that. It was special to me that my mom got those books for me. I didn't know how much she spent about it until like a few years ago and I was like God damn, wait a second. We could have used that money for something else. Wait a second. My millennium mind is like hold on. Now Priorities are slightly different, Give me a second, but it's still one of those things like she did that for me and I did have a little bit of access.

Speaker 2:

I also was lucky enough that my eldest brother because he's like 10 years older than me, so when I was at elementary school I was already doing pretty good at math my eldest brother was already in high school, so by that point he was taking calculus and so I would take his calculus book and I would be reading all of that. So the point where even I think it was like fourth grade I wanted to do an online computer quiz and I wound up scoring higher than most 12 graders when I was in elementary school on an actual calculus and geometry while I was still in elementary, because the fact that I was able to read that book, those books that my brother had. So you're correct, when you don't have access to that, it makes you're not going to be able to get it. But if you are able to have access and you have the interest to actually read it, it makes a big difference. Just by giving this, because my mom gave me the access, I have a lot more knowledge than I would have had if I didn't. Because the kids have access. Now my children are able to like, learn ASL, learn Spanish faster than most other kids are. They have to be exposed to that in order to be able to see what they really like and it's like.

Speaker 2:

So it's one of those things of like I would, I would definitely say into the aspect that cats, mom and dad probably did Give him access to that and it may have been very difficult. He may have had a very he had a very difficult upbringing. He did talk about his life. He did talk about the fact that he and his dad got into an altercation and he refused to elaborate in on to it and I'm very proud on today aspect, Shannon really tried to go in, tried to try to figure more information out. He was like, oh, he didn't press him as hard, no, Shannon did. Shannon kept asking questions and cat kept shutting that shit down, saying I said an altercation, didn't say anything more than that and, boom, kept it moving. So you know, it just kept it going on to that. So it's like I do feel like, yeah, his parents gave him that access, gave him that moment.

Speaker 2:

Because you listen to that interview, Cat Williams specifically says words that unless you really know what those words mean, you would have never heard those words before. Able to understand more about plants when he was calling out Kevin Hart, but he's like, I understand that some people just don't know the definition of these words, and it's true most people don't, but he uses it correctly. That's just crazy, I'm sorry. I kind of went on to a little bit of a rant on that one.

Speaker 1:

I don't get it.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, I appreciate your thoughts on it too. When you considering books and information, it's important to know that this generation is a little bit different due to the access of information they can have it at the snap of a finger.

Speaker 2:

But I think it's also like too much information and it's too quick, Because the fact that my mom had to do so much in order for me to get those books I appreciate it more. Now that you can just easily Google it, it doesn't feel as important anymore.

Speaker 5:

Right, which is why a lot of people don't read as much as they used to, because they got access to the information as soon as they need it. They don't have to research and find out what's going on. Google it, google it.

Speaker 4:

It's kind of plain. It's good to hear parents who are like how you're getting your children to read earlier, how your daughter should read earlier, because you're hearing statistics of children not being able to read at all. You're hearing teachers talking about their limited education or not being able to write or just not even having any interest. But when you bring up how easy it is to access that information, it makes so much sense. Why, like if they can just Google an answer or if there's an app that does their homework for them?

Speaker 2:

I don't want to talk about that. I don't want to talk about that. On that, Somebody just made me mad last year about the fact that she literally bragged to, the fact that she was like I ain't passed none of my classes about doing that much. I just went online, found dances and bought my pass and I'm sitting here like I'm an appreciative ass.

Speaker 1:

See, that's really funny how, when I was in school, like, see, first of all, we had straight up reading class, we had to take reading as an elective. That's one thing. Second thing is really funny how, y'all saying all this, where I used to be that kid where I had A, b on a roll at best, like I could have been a straight A student, but I was like, yeah, no, I'm too lazy for that, so I'll be that one kid, listen, listen, I'll be that one kid to where I could do the classwork, I could do quizzes, I could be doing tests, but don't give me no homework, because it's not going to be done.

Speaker 5:

This is true? Yeah, I feel that. I feel that Like you know if I had the opportunity to, like I don't know, get reincarnated with all of my memories on some anime type shit, but like in the human world, with no magic, I would prefer magic. But you know, if I got reincarnated right now as a new person, a new human being, and I had to go through all of my experiences over again, bro, I would not fuck school.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 5:

Bro, I would have took my GED exam in like fucking fifth grade past that moment when I was having fun.

Speaker 2:

Literally, my wife like told me and this is the funniest shit that she's ever told me into this and she told me just to my eldest daughter. She said she says I don't want you to be like me, but then, like my eldest daughter is, like, but you passed all your classes your way, she said, but I don't want you to do this for me. This is what my wife wound up, literally talking about what she did. She said this fact because of the fact that you know they always had those grade and they weigh a certain percentage and shit like test weight 60%, homework weighs like 5% with this 10% and shit like that, so like that. So she calculated out all those things. My wife said that she never did homework, never, never made a difference, because it was only 5% of the work it didn't get. You didn't care.

Speaker 1:

And see, that's what I'm talking about. So if that's 5% of my total grade, what the fucking it?

Speaker 2:

was supposed to be like yeah, like they're talking to have a 95. But and that's literally what she did. She passed every quiz, she passed every test, but she never did any homework. It's still got AB on her, yeah that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 5:

I am for complete overhaul of the education system. The reason being is because you know, all they focus on right now is memorization. We need to have focus on arts. We need to focus on individualism. We need to focus on stuff that can contribute to society. Come on, fuck it. Memorize stuff about fucking Christopher Columbus one year and then you don't remember that shit. Right now. You know what year did Christopher Columbus sail to the ocean blue?

Speaker 1:

I feel you on all that, which is why I said, hey, we need to have bring back home and bring back accounting class. Fucking how make. Make martial arts a elective. Bring that in, bring that into the schools, and then, on top of that, Cobra Kai. Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but in fact I agree into what you're saying, jb, as one of the reasons I'm actually happy living where I'm at right now, because this is something that apparently this city does, and when I explain this, I want you to understand how very limited our hometown was and why I am so happy to not be there. Okay, so you know how in Japan it became a big thing that you have to choose what high school you want to go to, because the high school that you go to, per se, is like helps you with your career choice and shit Right. But mostly in America you don't choose your college. You go to high school to continue your general studies and pretty much like master those general studies, and you don't start your career path until you go to college unless you have honors classes. Right, how about in town? How about in my town? Right now, you don't have to be in honors or nothing like that.

Speaker 2:

There is seven high schools. That's split out amongst this district that I met. Okay, my child can go to any high school she wants to go to, and every high school is tailored to whatever career choice they want to be. There is a high school for automotive and mechanics and robotics. There is a high school for science and mathematics.

Speaker 2:

There is a high school if they should choose this that she wants to go to, because I know she said that she really likes interior design. There's a high school specifically on arts and designs and marketing. These high schools, while you're still continuing these general studies, these are specific high schools so before you go to college, you can go ahead and get the experience. You remember those job applications that always be like you want to have such and such amount of experience before you got your high school diploma. Yeah, it's because of towns like I'm in right now that actually has the high school. So my daughter, whatever high school she goes to, she is guaranteed at least four years experience of whatever career she wants to go into before she gets her high school diploma.

Speaker 1:

See, that's what I feel like a lot of people should have been had. If we're going to be in high school, give us a little bit of experience so that way we can land a job as soon as we at least exit high school. But no, they're trying to make us go straight to college. But even then, okay, I'm not against a four-year college. When you be looking at these community colleges, technical colleges like some of the ones that in my area, to, where you're just like they teach you things that you actually are interested in learning. They teach you things that they're not being like generalized or whatnot. It's like stuff that where it's like, okay, you want to get into this field, this line of work, okay, here's a school for that.

Speaker 1:

Versus a four-year college, you probably get a general education, but at least it'll look better on your resume. To where it's like you went to Berkeley or Harvard or whatever and it's like, okay, cool, cool, cool and that's all good. But it's just crazy how it just seems like they don't have what you're going to need going forward throughout most of your adult life to where, like I said, you got to have cooking skills, you got to know how to finance your own money with accounting and whatnot, but they're getting rid of, or they never really had, the classes that actually going to help you going forward in life, versus you're probably going to be learning shit to where you're probably going to forget about as soon as you graduate high school. That's why it just kind of sad to where you have a whole.

Speaker 1:

I grew up with classmates where it just seemed like they didn't really care about learning or anything. They would rather cheat on other people's smart kids paper than actually learn something, because most of this stuff that they'd be teaching you like going to kids, I'm not going to remember when they get out there in the world. So it's like no wonder why it just seems like the education system is kind of failing these kids because it just seems like you're not offering them something that they're going to have a group like a kung fu grip on. You know what I mean.

Speaker 2:

True, I don't even say like this is one of the things why it's also going to start with funding the teachers, like that's one of the biggest things into it. Like we America pushes so much that's a big thing for education and these teachers don't get paid. Like college professors quit their jobs because they don't get paid or they have to pick up a second job. The only people who were really in there are either desperate or really loved their kids, but right now there's more of a desperate gene pool in there than there is people who want to help children, because for one, there's also dealing with a lot of children who, because of their life and the upbringing, don't respect the teachers, or they just have too much, they feel too pressured at school to the point that they want to do it no more and then take it out on the teachers, or it's just because of their life upbringing they're not able to put their effort into school like they want to.

Speaker 2:

It's like this other country is, where education is such a big thing. It's free. Like it's free education. People can go to school and get the education and live successful lives. There's a group of successful jobs. But we're so built on such a big capitalism that we got to make money off of. We can't make money off of it. There's no point into it. Like, the government has to be able to tax it, they have to be able to make money into it. You can't really tax free shit. Okay, but we're talking about the future of our country, of our lives, like our children, is the future. Are you making it to where it's impossible for them to be able to make that future?

Speaker 5:

Like you know, what I got a song for that. I believe it's your general future.

Speaker 4:

I believe it's your general future Six years chocolate.

Speaker 1:

Sounds so good, don't you agree? That's another shot.

Speaker 2:

Taking another shot. Listen, y'all, y'all crazy. Hey, can we talk about somebody?

Speaker 1:

who does agree?

Speaker 2:

into that? Who also?

Speaker 1:

agrees in that same viewpoint.

Speaker 2:

Who's that?

Speaker 4:

Let's talk about it.

Speaker 2:

Let's talk about it, so let's do a quick recap of what happened in that interview, because we are already pushing so very towards the end. Thank y'all so much. Y'all are still listening. We really do appreciate this.

Speaker 2:

So what happened was that Kat Williams wound up saying that, on his point of view, he said that I believe he said it doesn't make sense why I came on to the show saying all the stuff, kept saying all the stuff that he was saying before, because, from Kat Williams point of view, he said he went to the show and he never really saw Ali like that. And he said that what wound up happening to him was is the fact that he was like he was there and he's like the only people that he that Kat, knew was supposed to be there performing that night was his people. He didn't know about any other people, any other local artists and stuff like that. He wasn't told about any of these other people. So all he knows is that there was a person that was very upset that was supposed to be on and he's like, well, maybe the dude he's wanting the money for his segment because he's a local performer or something like that, and he was like give the man his money, like I don't want to leave nobody not paid, because, as we've already established, kat Williams is like that he will pay people, he will give you money if he feels you deserve it into it, and he gives it like various different amounts and shit. So he was like in his mindset he thought that that was the reason that the dude was upset and so really what wound up happening is that Ali and Kat never actually got a chance to sit down and discuss what was really going on, because I heard it from both segments into that.

Speaker 2:

And so what Ali wound up saying in his interview and this was very interesting was that he said that like he felt like you just make up a scenario, like you really think that I just made all that up. It doesn't make sense. He said Kat says he had no idea that he was mad, that he was mad and explained no, he tried to explain the different sides as far as the performance, but Ali said that he did wound up riding with him to the hotel and how they were actually in the same car. Now it is a good possibility because Kat has already has also stated even though he doesn't lace his weed with extra drugs and shit like that is just straight weed. He himself has said he smokes more than Snoop Dogg, so it's a good possibility, like when the niggas high, you high. You don't always notice anybody. You high, you high.

Speaker 5:

I read three thousand of them, all, literally seven.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, so it's like this. And he was high. He was on a whole different plane of some shit. You might have rolling the same car. He had no idea your ass was even there. Just real shit. Nothing against you, just some real shit.

Speaker 2:

But the thing about is is that, um, he explained as far as his points of check that Ali actually did perform, but what won had already performed. But what happened was is that when he left, he was told he was not allowed to come back in. That cat said that no, he's on that. Ali was not allowed to come back in. But cat wound up saying was is that he never singled Ali out like that he's? He said that who was supposed to be there performing? Cat knew that it was him in his people. Who was there supposed to be performing. Nobody else was supposed to be performing because that's what the show runners told him. He was told that it was just them. So he had no idea that somebody else was promised to be on there. But Ali said that he had already went up and had already performed. He had already opened up.

Speaker 2:

So it was a confusion really on from my understanding in this is that it wanted me, a confusion based on the show runners part. The show runner wanted to still keep Ali performing because Ali was becoming super popular then and and then cat Williams is gonna perform. You're obviously not gonna turn him away. They wanted both of them, so they manipulated it to where both of them could perform. This is my take on it from understanding both sides, because they both still said the same story, but from different points of view, and so that's why I was like they really should have had a moment to sit down and talk it out, because when I had a chance of listening into that, I'm like I can tell that that's what happened, at least to me. That's what it feels like is like they managed to get both of you guys performing, but Ali got got the short end of the stick, but the show runners didn't care because they still got his performance, and so Ali wanted to be an upset because it just came off. We came off like that, like I'm told I'm not allowed to be back.

Speaker 2:

But really what the scenario was is that cat was told that only he and his other, only he and his people, was supposed to perform. Nobody else was supposed to be there. So they weren't allowing anybody back other than him and his people, because that's what was supposed to happen, but Ali was told something different and that's what things wound up getting confused onto that. So I honestly feel like this beef between them is neither one of their faults, is literally the showrunner Trying to get the best on both of them To try to make the most money possible, and they wound up causing beef between them too Because of the confusion that happened, because cat likes to handle things himself, and so I want that's how I feel. I feel like it was just a lot of confusion when I had a chance of going back and listening To what it was that cat said and then listen to what it is to Ali speak at respond as well too, and I'm like I really think that's what happened. But what do y'all think on that?

Speaker 4:

I think that's a pretty good take. That wasn't, honestly, what I interpreted, as is that. It sounded like, honestly, a giant misunderstanding, because it just seems like there was people who wanted to benefit from the situation and the scenario and they set out to do that and succeeded. But what was the cost of that was a relationship, a positive relationship that could have been built between very two funny comedians because, as we know, cat has put comedians on the road with him and have had them open for him and paid them well, so what could have been? It kind of puts in perspective the possibility that If this situation does work out, could we get a A show with cat and Ali speak. Is that that sounds like a positive solution to me? I.

Speaker 2:

Could feel that JB tough, which I got. You know what I think.

Speaker 5:

Rosa Parks and do know, sit up like is now. That's what black people do when they tired, they sit down.

Speaker 4:

Okay, I don't have to take another one that one day I Was the best.

Speaker 5:

No, I completely agree with the sentiments like yeah, you know I fuck with both of them too, so, yeah, I understand. You know you never know different people perspective, how they perceive stuff, and that's all I'm gonna say about that.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, jb.

Speaker 1:

Honestly.

Speaker 2:

I Know what. I think we have reached the end of this toast. We have covered everything on this list, on our notes, that we. The only other thing that we probably wind up having and I kind of just briefly mentioned it is that Shannon did want him going on to another podcast Close friend of his about the fact that he his podcast. He doesn't consider himself a journalist, he's a conversationalist and that's the reason why that's the reason I had one of the same. He was able to have a place of truth because everyone's like still trying to like, oh, you could have went further in. Okay, you could have really grilled him and stuff like that. He was like I did try to, but he's like I'm not a journalist, that's not my job, that's not what I'm gonna do, because, really, keep my this isn't a.

Speaker 1:

When you're on the podcast like it's not about trying to be Investigated. We just more like a man. Let's just talk about it.

Speaker 2:

I'll tell y'all try to investigate me, and this only.

Speaker 1:

Situation.

Speaker 2:

I'm the only sober one here right now, so I ain't forgot.

Speaker 1:

Not big on playboy still. Oh, he was telling me that on, he was talking to the friend and got distracted. But that's all good, it's all good.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, absolutely not sober, and I ain't say nothing to out of pocket either.

Speaker 2:

So you can say that the two out of pocket. You know how many shots this you supposed to take. He's supposed to be a black. She's supposed to be in black. Cat numbers, bra, train heart net, yeah. You know, yeah, yeah, maybe I think we done my guy.

Speaker 1:

All right, fair enough. I swear to God, there was like one more thing. Oh right, wait a minute. There is one more thing. How'd y'all feel about cat Williams talking about on his dance on toxic women, since all shadows asked him, I.

Speaker 5:

Love.

Speaker 4:

I'm all about toxicity.

Speaker 5:

I love toxic women, bro, I'm trying to tell you. But I'm not toxic at all, like I don't engage, which makes them more toxic.

Speaker 2:

So this child Know each other for a very long time. I Got nothing below for you, bro. You cannot say you know, I don't engage.

Speaker 5:

I don't engage in them, I'll be ignoring people. That's my problem.

Speaker 1:

Nah see, here's my thing, though here's where I realized that you know what I'm a little toxic. You want to know what made me realize that when I see people who's like way too nice, like you know the type of people that's like always complimenting each other is like hey, you know you know on that.

Speaker 1:

Oh well, it seems like they just seem so friendly towards each other just feels like, not, I Smell some phone in this in here, all right, there's no goddamn way y'all that goddamn night to each other, like. I feel like either that's like just some Lip service y'all be giving each other or y'all be like back, stab each other on Low-key. Like there's no goddamn way y'all that friendly towards each other. And now we're really no, no, some people are that friendly. Just you know, you just not used to people being that friendly towards you and I'm like oh.

Speaker 1:

No see, you got. You have some of those people that's on the internet that act like okay, I got some people as friends on Facebook to where you seem like they come up as such a cinnamon roll, to where you seem like, oh well, you know, they just harmless, like they just seem nice, like nobody ever gonna have any beef with them, but that's just kind of thing is like they just seem so nice. I'm like now, y'all nice, but Something about y'all to tell me y'all kind of bitch made. Y'all y'all a little bitch made because, like y'all trying to avoid Not pissing people off, that's what y'all really doing. It's like it's not that y'all being nice, y'all just trying to make sure Y'all not saying anything or doing anything to piss people off.

Speaker 4:

That's what you're like yeah.

Speaker 1:

I don't like those. I'm like uh-uh y'all. Phony, you don't need to get a fuck out of my face.

Speaker 5:

Hey, it's a phony.

Speaker 1:

He's a phony.

Speaker 4:

Big fat phony boyfriends, friends tires just because you don't like them. Is that that's a red flag?

Speaker 1:

That's what. What did that friend do?

Speaker 4:

I only popped one and just took the like tire caps off the other three, so that way I could watch him go flat over the course of three months.

Speaker 2:

What you supposed to do. Is you supposed to slice three tires?

Speaker 5:

Yeah.

Speaker 4:

The girls were dumb. I don't think you understand. He was retarded. So if I would have, oh my god, they would have been too much work for me and my boyfriend have to take care of at the time. It's not like anyway, not the point. The point I'm saying is I got you guys.

Speaker 2:

Be that slow.

Speaker 4:

To watch it over time. I wanted to watch him, I didn't mind, so wait. Is it also bad that I also proposed all his condoms? Because he was, she know, his girlfriend and I was like Bring.

Speaker 2:

This one. It is definitely his fault. He's cheating on this girl. I get you on that, but I want you to understand this. Okay, he's been sleeping that many women. Is it possible that he might have something right? That protection aside from not just kids that protection preventing him from either getting something from one of these other girls and give it to his girlfriend, or by his verse.

Speaker 5:

Teacher having drama. Oh, but look though, some people deserve to be cheated on, I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 2:

That's another shot.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 5:

Let's look at an example. I give you an example. Right Cinderella, easy Cinderella.

Speaker 1:

Let them cook. I want to hear it.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, let me finish that one and then I'll tell you another. Oh, cinderella, right, her wicked stepmother she should be cheating on okay see this is I need to ask a serious question.

Speaker 2:

Send a rather story. Are you talking about real Cinderella story?

Speaker 5:

real Cinderella? Does the real Sinneral the evil?

Speaker 2:

Understand. This is the thing about it. The real Cinderella Cinderella story even ever after want to be a based into it Was based on actually a somewhat true story.

Speaker 2:

In the real Cinderella story, the reason the wicked stepmother wound up treating Cinderella the way she did was because of the fact that she was cheated on. She married this husband, she married this guy and he swoon her and promised her that he was gonna take care of everything. What wound up happening was is that he kept cheating on her and he wound up losing a ton of money on Other women that he was cheating with. So what wound up happening was she married into him. She married into this lifestyle with him, into where he was supposed to still provide this lifestyle. As long as he was alive, he could still make that money back. Cinderella never knew this, okay, she never knew that her daddy was cheating like this. She never knew that this is what was going on. The stepmother actually a rich in the original story did treat Cinderella well Until the father passed away, because that's when the secrets came out, because that's when the money disappeared. She could no longer take care of anyone.

Speaker 2:

So, no, that's. That was Disney. That was not the real truth. Cinderella was not the only one that had to wind up working. Even her giving her stepsisters had to as well, too.

Speaker 3:

All of them had to work so what you talking about.

Speaker 5:

Everything I know is alive.

Speaker 1:

Yes, I mean welcome to the world, because Disney with stories.

Speaker 2:

Do think about it this way they got enough money to make the truth. Y'all like Mary Poppins. Y'all like Mary Poppins. Mary Poppins is cool, okay, so keep in mind on this, remember that it wasn't until like years later, after Walt Disney died, that we found out about the real story, about the real thing about Mary Poppins, about the woman who actually lives, mary Poppins, and how literally she said she did not want her story to be told by Disney. And Disney still stole that shit anyway.

Speaker 4:

What the fuck.

Speaker 2:

Disney is not like, we're not. Happiness niggas.

Speaker 1:

That's why they say. This is why they say it's that Disney evil?

Speaker 5:

Don't tell them your story. Shit. They're gonna make a billion dollar movie about that moment.

Speaker 1:

But hey, you know what, you know what.

Speaker 5:

Zillots of mouse entertainment.

Speaker 1:

No, listen uh what took? Was saying you know what? There is one person and it's funny. Hold up. Let me finish. There is one person I can think of. What fictional character that can think of? That's what we deserve to be cheated on. If I'm gonna be us and it's funny because we're gonna do a review on on the movie at some point I Said respecial from Norbit. She damn sure did. Yeah, she's.

Speaker 5:

Marlin Wayne's was in that movie fucking her too the whole town, the whole town, watch Norbit.

Speaker 1:

She did on respecial with Kate and they didn't battle fucking on, because nobody like respecials. That's why I'm like you know what they were so cool with it?

Speaker 2:

I'm like this one of these is talked about into the movies the fight bet. Norbit never agreed really to date respecial. She just took it upon herself to take him because he was weak.

Speaker 1:

He was bullied into it.

Speaker 2:

Yes, she bullied him into it literally. He never really wanted to be in the relationship. Remember, anytime he thought about leaving. She and her brothers threatened him every single time if you leave gas like. Like every single time, you think that life is better out there, but it's gonna be worse if you don't. Let us take advantage of you.

Speaker 1:

That's you hurt her even once. Even if you make her cry, I will come down. You rain down pain. I'm talking about all razor. Raise the blades and lemon juice for us.

Speaker 2:

But like it's one of those things, like it's a very sad ass movie, like as a kid we enjoyed it was funny as shit.

Speaker 1:

You look at it now, you like You're like oh damn, this dude, got he masculade as fuck, horrible, like the fuck.

Speaker 2:

What is that? I enjoyed this as we thought this was funny. No wonder we toxic. Look, this is how I'm gonna be honest with you, okay. So I'm gonna tell you two things into this. First off, as a man that I can tell you, I, as a, as y'all know, I'm on my fifth kid right now. We delivered come this April, may. So, which I understand is this is my wife has some toxicity to and I have some toxicity to. The thing about it is Is working on that balance, on. You understand when you can push the boundary.

Speaker 2:

So far, we enjoy toxicity in our friendships. Let's put in this aspect here. You have different types of friends, okay. You have people you just associate with, maybe work buddies, situations like that. You have friends who you know. These are people I kind of hang out with every night again. Then you have your best friend.

Speaker 2:

You are always talking well, even if you take a break, you can come back and, as if nothing ever changed, your best friend is the only person that can say some off-the-wall as shit to. But let anybody else say some shit like that to you. Your best friend will show them that what and I'm quoting this Specifically and this is a specific quote, and I keep in this because this was fantastic If any other friend, if any other person said this about you, your best friend, it is their job to remind them that life is only a privilege. So into that aspect we appreciate toxicity in, in French, in relations, all relationships. Okay, because your significant other and your best friend are the only two people who can say whatever shit they want to say about you, because in the day you know, they still got your back, they still love. That is just what it is. Okay, that's a bad girl friend, exactly.

Speaker 4:

Just like you had.

Speaker 2:

But the thing about it is in that aspect Everybody appreciates some form of toxicity because it lets you know that the person is still real. If somebody is too good, we always hear that phrase it's too good to be true, because in many cases, if it feels too good to be true, it usually is. There are some cases that is not, but to be honest with you, in life, that is not always the case.

Speaker 1:

See sometimes it's a matter of it's not that you're too good to be true, it's just moral lines of you haven't done anything. Really that constitutes as toxic to somebody, to where it's like oh, because you just been nothing but nice to me the whole time, I don't trust you until you start doing some toxic bad boys. Yeah, like, okay, now I feel more comfortable being around.

Speaker 5:

I remember that one episode of the Proud Family where that nanny was just too good, too nice.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the Renee syndrome. No, no, it's like no, we get this all the time. It's called the Renee syndrome, to where it's like she just so perfect that everybody keeps on sending her back because it's like she was doing such an amazing job at the house. It's like no, like all those moms was feeling a little obsolete. So it was like no, no, we don't have to fire you.

Speaker 2:

No, look, no, you can think about this way. Not just the nanny, Same show. And then um, thingie, the girl who does thingie, who's Oscar's friend who was always always out talking with, and shit like that. Oh yeah, and Trudy swore to God that that nigga was cheating.

Speaker 4:

And with the pain.

Speaker 2:

He thought so too. How could you cheat on moms? It's like she would never cheat on your brother. It's like this is thingie. I'm talking with her. We hadn't spoke. I didn't know that she was thinking we hadn't spoken a long time. I'm trying to ask you to come to the kids birthday party because they love thingies so much, and it's like there was reasoning behind it. But it's still one of those things like sometimes some shit seems too good to be true. And then there was like damn, yeah, no, no, no, that's my first thing, is it? But also, yeah, like I have, I'm coming on kid number five.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I like some toxic. I have a limited topic. I've learned this with my ex. Okay, because one of the things that will stick with me is being told by my ex is the fact that I never understood it until after we broke up. But it was one of those things that you will always say that I always seemed like I was too good for her and I was always confused because I'm like, I never tried to portray myself that way, but one of the things about it is is the fact that it was because I reserved a lot of my toxicity. I literally had this mindset that if you show any type of toxic trait in a relationship, that means you don't want the relationship to last and you want it to be negative and shit like that. And that's not true. You need to show that to your partner.

Speaker 1:

Go ahead, jamie. Can I add on to that? Can I add on to that? To where it's like. It's just really funny how, yeah, I was one of those boys who felt like I was being lied to, growing up to where I felt like we're not supposed to be toxic, we're not supposed to be mean and all that other shit. And then you growing up trying to find out, oh, you were being raised to be soft and that's not going to be very attractive to the ladies and it's like, in other words, like, look, be a good guy, but don't be harmless. It's like you got to be, you got to kind of be built, kind of like to kind of do the words like, yeah, you're a good guy, but you can also do damage when necessary.

Speaker 5:

You got to not give up to all the females. That's what you got to not give them, and then also give them a little bit.

Speaker 4:

It depends on the female.

Speaker 5:

Everyone no no, no, no no.

Speaker 1:

No, no, no, no, no, no, no no.

Speaker 5:

That's what you. Why women deserve less. It's an excellent book. Who's book?

Speaker 2:

You got to take some shots. Now that's another, that's two shots.

Speaker 5:

I didn't write the book.

Speaker 2:

It's a book no it is wrong, nobody reads it.

Speaker 4:

Nobody.

Speaker 2:

So they know everybody has a little toxicity that they can stand, that they can handle. That's just really what it is, and so you have to find what your toxicity level is. That's just what it is Like in the end. Think about it in this aspect here Kool-Aid tastes best when it's like that, when it's fucking like diabetic, diabetic or shit, when you feel like you have to lose your arm and leg.

Speaker 2:

You like only God damn, that's some good ass Kool-Aid. You know damn well that shit's bad for us, fuck for you. But it tastes good, you can appreciate it.

Speaker 1:

But and listen, listen, you had a half right to where I would say we talked about. All these women deserve less. No, no, no, I won't say that, but listen. Once you find the one, it's like you can be an asshole to all these other women except her. She always got to be treated special.

Speaker 2:

Well, no, she's still got to treat her a little bit like an asshole, you know you still have to. I mean no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, it's more like you get total asshole with everybody else.

Speaker 1:

But then when they'll come to the girlfriend, the wife, it's more like, okay, he's a little nicer to me, so I did not. The one.

Speaker 2:

I'm so much that you are living in no bubble.

Speaker 2:

But, look in the group chat. I looked at that now, since you see it, but for real though, no, it's just one of those things of life. Everybody has different levels that they were, and I learned and I learned this in that aspect again, like I said, from my previous relationship that's just how it is. But I've had the opportunity of being able to see it, not just in my relationship but others relationships as well too. I have never been one of them Like, oh, I'm a therapist and my counselor should feel like, no, not at all, I'm just, this is what we at.

Speaker 2:

But the thing about it is it's the fact of everybody has something that they want and something that they appreciate, but then everybody has an amount that they deserve and it's difficult to find what that is. I'm blessed and lucky enough to have found my wife and that to me, that's what it feels like. I've gotten that, that's the thing into it. My second point is the fact that I knew damn well I like toxicity Girl when Black Fire came on Teen Titans and I was like God damn, yes, when fucking she go from Kempos you know what?

Speaker 4:

Oh no, I'm gonna have to fucking interrupt you, because why? But I will say Mrs will literally be like nah, I don't want no toxics against females, but y'all like the hell out of an angry one.

Speaker 5:

Oh for sure, it's just so cool. Who did that anger show to?

Speaker 4:

fuck up, it'd be like a ho, I ain't know who that is, but that's the kind of thing that'll make me whip your ass. Please, it's not.

Speaker 2:

Look, here's the thing.

Speaker 1:

No, that's easy. Here's my problem. Here's how. I also know that I'm a little toxic. It's where I'm like I see the anger and somehow I'm like I don't know what it is, but it's doing something for me.

Speaker 4:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 5:

I'm like, give it to me, give it to me more. One, seven, two weeks. You got to make them angry. Therefore, you got to have your makeup.

Speaker 1:

Now slap me one good one, one or two more times. There's one, two good times.

Speaker 2:

Okay, hold on.

Speaker 1:

Come on, give it to me, give it to me Hold on a second JB, JB, that's.

Speaker 2:

That's all the fetish. Give it to me.

Speaker 4:

Give it to me, give it to me.

Speaker 2:

What's your understanding that's called a fetish.

Speaker 5:

Shut up and give it to me, give it to me, give it to me, just go ahead.

Speaker 2:

That's on fetish, though. No, no, no, give up. Give up Me or Jane. This is important to understand into this. Yes, because let's be honest onto this one, okay, I am.

Speaker 5:

I'm a new virgin. I was born again.

Speaker 4:

Exactly Born again, saved again Amen.

Speaker 2:

Praise him. Got some spiritual virgins. I got you, okay, no, I'm physical.

Speaker 4:

Oh Lord, that's not what I said.

Speaker 2:

N***a, you have a kid. Anyway, that's not mine, it's not just for you. Don't you dare, don't you dare. Don't say that I know your whole family, I'll come at you. Don't you try that. It's your baby.

Speaker 5:

Don't bite me, boy. I cannot not claim her bro.

Speaker 2:

Exactly, but no, for real, though, is angry sex not one of the best that there is Like real talk?

Speaker 1:

When you show Angry back set. Look at this, I'm going to show you something.

Speaker 2:

When you angry, is so mad and you you want to take it out on them, so bad, so you be like I want to slap you. So you start that you don't be an afterthought. You start slapping the ass Like you grab it.

Speaker 5:

You start just pounding this shit Like crazy, Like like you remember that shit, you was talking, you remember that shit.

Speaker 2:

Say that shit down.

Speaker 5:

Say that shit down.

Speaker 2:

Say it yeah, like that's just the thing. That's just what it is Like sometimes. Yeah, like you get angry, you be like damn.

Speaker 1:

And see. That's why we got to learn how to control and train our grip strength when it comes, when we come for that throat.

Speaker 4:

This is going to be in my bed. I'm drunk but, like my ex, was toxic in a different way. My ex would just starve my ass of fucking sex Like literally Wow.

Speaker 1:

See, that's different. I can't do that, I do that sometimes too I can't.

Speaker 5:

No, I'm going to be honest with you, mirajane, I'm going to be honest with you.

Speaker 1:

I'm like that one, I'm like that one dude from holes, where I'm like I can fix that Shoot your shot right here on

Speaker 4:

the podcast.

Speaker 2:

Maybe, maybe. What if I did? I thought we had rules bro.

Speaker 4:

I never said that as a rule.

Speaker 2:

Rules are meant to be broken. I'm trying to tell you no, no, it can't be broken if I never made a rule.

Speaker 5:

I'm trying to tell you.

Speaker 1:

No, no, it can't be broken if I never made a rule.

Speaker 5:

I thought it was unwritten.

Speaker 1:

Unwritten, unspoken, like I didn't make that rule.

Speaker 4:

I'm going to take another shot.

Speaker 5:

I mean, we was talking about DPs earlier, but you know.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to be like what's up? No, no, I'm going to be like what's up. Girl, Welcome to the zone podcast, how you doing.

Speaker 4:

You cannot do no, 105.3 keys you do got that new voice.

Speaker 5:

You got a nice soul.

Speaker 1:

Have a seat, stay for a while.

Speaker 5:

Look at you.

Speaker 4:

Sorry, I almost bit my man what you mean have a seat.

Speaker 2:

Have mini suits up and down, up and down, twist and turn around.

Speaker 1:

Let me pour you the finest brand in your cup. We just have a conversation.

Speaker 2:

I'm a conversationalist. I'm not a journalist. I'm a conversationalist.

Speaker 1:

I'm like let's just talk for a minute.

Speaker 2:

For reals, though, everybody has a certain level of toxicity that they appreciate that they need. That's just how it is, and it's like you find out what works best for you into that one. I could not be starved of it. I get crazy. My wife knows it but said I get crazy. I start like I have fetishes.

Speaker 2:

I have fetishes. I'm not going to disclose them right now, but I also have fetishes. That's just the thing about it. My wife supplies me with these fetishes. She makes me feel happy. So when I'm not able to, she knows that something's usually off. My attitude is different. My walk is different.

Speaker 1:

My problem is you want to know what my problem is. I always try to get in as many rounds as possible to a point where I'm going to make you call out a word tomorrow morning.

Speaker 2:

Dude, I wish you don't know the thing about it. It's the fact that, like somebody always has to tap out and it's not me it's usually a case of like okay, and I think we're done for tonight. Really, yeah.

Speaker 5:

I mean, I was like no, we good, it's been a little more than that.

Speaker 2:

Come on, just a little bit more Like no, I think you don't know.

Speaker 5:

You know what I absolutely hate, bro. I absolutely hate I would not talk to a female that like anime, bro, because literally I put you on, I try to put you on some anime, like. I'll give you an example the other day I was entertaining this nice young lady, you know what I mean. She came to the red light district and we, I said let's put on something to watch real quick. I said you ever seen anime? She was like no, but my brother was trying to put me on some shows. I was like yeah, we're going to start with episode one, demon slayer, bro. She watch it for five minutes, start kissing on my neck and stuff, bro. Next thing, you know, we on episode six and she ain't even paying attention to it, bro.

Speaker 4:

I'm trying to animate you, not anime.

Speaker 2:

Hold on, hold on, hold on. I didn't understand. What were you upset about?

Speaker 5:

Bro, that was nice, but still bro, no, no, no, I get it, no no. I get it.

Speaker 1:

No, no, I get it. I get what Tuck was trying to say. He was at the moment. At the moment, he was on that Sigma grind sale. Hey man, we're here for the anime, not for all this.

Speaker 5:

When I want to like, if I put on my hero academia. I expect you to watch it.

Speaker 1:

That's like saying, oh, I thought we came here to smash.

Speaker 2:

I'm like, yeah, play Smash Brothers, this is what I was about to say, that damn minute. It's a hit, I got. It's a hit. I got a titto, you got a titto. Smash Bros I like Smash Bros. Oh my God, the door just locked up by itself. Oh no, my game is broken. I guess we have to find something else to entertain ourselves. Oh, I got another controller, what's?

Speaker 5:

that brand. I'm just a brand. What's that brand? What's your name?

Speaker 4:

No.

Speaker 5:

Bro, that doesn't just grind my gears, bro. I was so mad, bro, if I put on my hero and, like we, not watching my hero, bro, you're going to have to get out, ain't no way bro. Now, if I put on anything else, it's fine. Like, see, I was upset at Demon Slayer I was upset at Demon Slayer because she told me she wanted to watch it. Now, if she didn't want to watch it, bro, I could have put on literally anything I would have put on Burning man show. How did?

Speaker 2:

she say it? How did she say it? No, you're going to be watching Burning man, hey. How did she say?

Speaker 5:

it. No, I'm not going to be watching. We're going to be fucking and in the middle of it I'm going to be laughing. You know, your favorite part come on, you laugh a little bit and then continue.

Speaker 1:

You know what? It's funny because it kind of feels like Tucker's saying. It's like oh, so you're allying to me so you can use me to have sex.

Speaker 5:

You're using me for my body, bro. You're using me for my body.

Speaker 2:

That's what the really upsetting thing is bro For real, though. Like how did she act? Like on surreal. She said I want to watch Demon Slayer.

Speaker 5:

I didn't even bring it up, bro. She told me her brother was trying to get her to watch. She said that she watched the damn. What's the? The one with light, bro.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I know death note. No he's saying you know, here's the thing, here's the thing. Okay, pay attention to these signs. My brother watches it. He's been trying to get me onto it. That's pretty much the sign. I ain't found the right person to get me on to anime yet. Pretty much a K. She told you straight forward she was not into it. For a little bit I was trying to get into it and she didn't want to watch it with me.

Speaker 5:

She immediately told me after that I watched death note and attack on Titan. She said that and I'm like nigga, if you watch attack on Titan, you really paid attention. You really paid attention because you got to you got to be attention for attack on Titan. How?

Speaker 2:

far. How far should you get into it? She watched the whole thing.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's amazing.

Speaker 5:

I asked her a question. I said I said, hey, who your favorite character from attack on Titan? She said obviously Captain Levi.

Speaker 2:

So she, I was like damn, that is stuff I already talked to you about. She doesn't smash, bro, like what the fuck.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, like she's there. No, bro, she didn't watch.

Speaker 5:

No, bro, we finna watch Tangerole family die. We finna watch that shit. We're going to watch the cold all over the ground. She don't want it after that. Oh, she was going to want it after that.

Speaker 1:

Okay, nah, it's B.

Speaker 2:

In the hot pocket. Did y'all continue to so like? Afterwards you said you know episode six, then pay attention to what happened. Did y'all decide to go back and restart it? Did y'all just turn in for the night, Like what happened after? Oh, so she went to sleep.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, so he's not on six episodes. No, no no no, no, no. No, it was some stuff going on for those six episodes.

Speaker 4:

Wait, wait, wait a minute.

Speaker 2:

Oh, keep in mind, each episode is only 22 minutes long.

Speaker 4:

They're not like the standard like for that Two hours. We didn't skip the intro. That's a long, 32 minutes, I know. Yeah, that's short.

Speaker 2:

That's chump change time. Yeah, skip, what have you been at? Yeah, exactly the chump change.

Speaker 4:

That's why she was tired. I've been here for five years. We've been alone. I was too. I was down for six Like.

Speaker 2:

I'm on another six right now, that's like that's still regular this chump change time.

Speaker 4:

I'm going to just slide my eggs this episode. So that way.

Speaker 5:

You know, sometimes what you got to do. Quickies though, like you got to go to work in the morning, I mean you can relate just a little bit.

Speaker 4:

I said start. I said no see, my thing is my problem is.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to be like I see you in the kitchen like watching dishes and whatnot. My like my mess with you a little bit. I'm like hey yo, so you want to fool around for like five minutes before I go to work.

Speaker 2:

Five minutes.

Speaker 1:

Hold on.

Speaker 5:

No, bro, I'm like damn, I gotta go to orientation. My orientation started 830 and we smashed in that 820.

Speaker 4:

Damn I'll be a little bit late. I'm going to be honest with y'all. Doos will say that until they meet the right one, I mean you're not wrong with me. You're not wrong with me, straighten up to the right one and then the right one.

Speaker 2:

It took me a second to adjust and then, once I adjusted, you know, we went back to where we're changing.

Speaker 1:

So it's more like okay, I see what mirror jam was saying to where. It's like um, it's one thing until you meet a girl who can match your sexual energy, and it's like oh, whoa, shit Like when you make this shit a competition.

Speaker 5:

The first yeah you make it a competition, but I ain't gonna lie.

Speaker 4:

There's some.

Speaker 5:

There's some events that had me like you know. It was some character building events. What's it called from Spiderman, bro? It was some, um, some Canada vids. Yeah, some Canada vids that occurred with me. Well, you know, sometimes it's five minutes. Bro, it's five minutes, you know what? I mean, I didn't learn what was the doubt you got, but look, you got to take that and give it back. It can't be the first time, though.

Speaker 4:

The first time you can't hit them with a lazy noodle.

Speaker 5:

You got to put your foot in and stand up in it, bro. You got to put your foot in like Sugar Momadine, Like I'm trying to tell you, because that'll get her to come back Then you got those fucking corns in that shit.

Speaker 2:

You got to, because then get up and go boss.

Speaker 5:

I'm trying to tell you that will help you. You know what I mean. So you can build your roster up, so you can have a stand.

Speaker 1:

I'm like no wonder why it tastes like being gay a little bit.

Speaker 5:

You know, the first time you got to act like it's your last time. And that's how you you know what I mean Build your roster up and you got to hope. Next thing, you know you working with a whole bitch. You know what I mean. You got all your players on the field, you got a bitch and then you get to go. So you'll never be without.

Speaker 2:

This is true. I mean, that was back in my day.

Speaker 5:

That was back in my day, though.

Speaker 2:

I didn't have to do. I mean, no, I'm not even gonna lie Like all right, my wife already knows. This is the thing. When I broke up, I had like three potentials to go with on to that one then. But I'm different. I'm not one of those ones like oh, I tried out each one, no, I just picked one to roll with it. Boom, my wife is really good.

Speaker 5:

I would rather be with one person, though, if I'm not with one person. That's kind of how I am.

Speaker 2:

I'm still a monogamous person Like I still, I still like.

Speaker 2:

I have no problems with anyone who's like to make it any form of fashion that works for you. That works for you as long as you have something that works out. You know, like having that third income, that's one of the biggest things that they always try to find you got to get into because it's a third income. You know and like. But here's the thing, though, for me, I think differently when it comes to monogamy, because of the fact that it's like it has to be. Who is your third wheel and does your third wheel circle out? That's the thing for me. On to that one, because, like it's, a conversation has come up with me and my wife. Like I said, we've been together six years, so it's like you know, if we do want to have a third person, she says, like there's always going to be another female. I say, okay, but you say this now what if one day wanted to be another male? Now I'm just having a third. Oh shit.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 5:

You know, if it's established, I wouldn't even be mad, I would be upset.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, if you have that agreement to it, that's just what it is, but like that's what we really want.

Speaker 5:

We got to play the game together. We got to watch anime bro.

Speaker 2:

I just don't want to turn down to a wheel August. I'll see the situation where you taking care of one and this is the only way. So I'm like no.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, it's equal opportunity, bro, you got to be Martin Luther King type. Shit, everybody, everybody, no, no.

Speaker 4:

No, two selfie, two selfie. You ain't got to be fucking going. You're fucking going to get in. Why it better be me? I don't know what you're looking at. Hey, I've seen this Tik Tok.

Speaker 5:

I've seen this Tik Tok where it was a picture of like white Jesus and she asked the little girl who is this? She's like Dumbledore, who can you see? Motherfucker right Motherfucker right, I was like yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's Albus Brown.

Speaker 5:

Wolfie, percival.

Speaker 2:

Guys, I've been on and tired of too long. My wife and I already fell asleep and I'm about to fall asleep now, but I still got some clean. I got to get done. So was there anything else in the interview? I know we've gone through all of our notes. Has it been any other additional things before? I bought real quick.

Speaker 5:

Yeah, I just know, that Bernie Mac is the greatest comedian of all time.

Speaker 2:

Hold on, because I know you wanted to mention I know you had read the note onto it but it was one of those ones that I definitely appreciated, his daughter, because the thing about it was that she never really wanted to say anything, she was just trying to stay quiet onto it. She watched the interview and she laughed her butt off onto it. She did say that, but it was also that thing of sorry. It was also the thing in the fact that people kept asking her to respond to it, like how do you feel into it? And so it was one of those ones that she was like you know, in the end of the day there was no secret, like there was no secret about the beef between Bernie Mac and Steve Harvey, and so it was one of those things of like there was no secret and Bernie has spoken about it all the time, and one of the things that I liked when she had mentioned it and then they went and found it was a locker room clip, I'll say it that way, like it was backstage type of thing, and Bernie was very specific in this.

Speaker 2:

He says whenever you come up with a new joke, you never, ever discuss it with your fellow comedians. He says when you think about it, you always think about discussing with your fellow comedians. And then why is it happening? Is that they supposedly are helping you make it funny or helping you brush it up All the while? They're still in that joke behind your back. He says you must, you take your joke, you perform it, so that way you have accreditation that it is yours. Before they find out about it, you never perform a new joke with other comedians around. And he even said like you don't do it. If you like going on tour together or some shit like that, you got some new jokes. They don't need to know nothing about it. When you go on your next solo standup, that's when you have that joke, that's when you put that new joke out.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I like that Joel.

Speaker 2:

Let me take notes Exactly. He says literally even people who try to be your best friends are always plotting behind your back.

Speaker 1:

And so, like I really did, I want you to drink for that one.

Speaker 2:

Have we not dealt with that in the zone we have gone through?

Speaker 4:

it.

Speaker 2:

I mean it took some time into this, Like, yes, we're very blessed in the fact that we have people across the world listening to us and it's like it even just this far that we got it to commit, Like it took a minute. We've had a bunch of ups and downs. We've had people we've trusted literally backstab us like, and not just lightly.

Speaker 1:

No, the worst part is. The worst part is it was more like they had a personal problem with me, but they took it out on the team and I'm like, no, they don't got anything to do with this. You got a problem with me, so you come to me directly.

Speaker 2:

I'll never forget when that girl tried to single me out on something and I sat here and I was minding my business. I'm like I ain't even saying nothing to you. What did?

Speaker 1:

I do.

Speaker 2:

Why am I right now Like what?

Speaker 1:

No, it's like. It's like for some reason, it's like y'all trying to tear it down the whole team just because you got a problem with me, even to a point where we used to have moderators. To where it's like, oh, they felt some type of way about my criticism, to where they were just trying to kick out all the members of our community. And I'm like I have to tell everybody yo, I'm sorry about all that, you know, just ex-moderators being salty, you know.

Speaker 2:

It was too much. So it's like yeah, like sometimes you trust people and then that trust don't come back Like it's like you expected this up, but that's just how life works, you know. So yeah, it was no secret, If anything if anything, those experiences just made me sharper.

Speaker 1:

It's more like it helps you rebuild your standards pretty much.

Speaker 2:

This is true. So it's like that's one of those things that we ought to be looking out for. Like we know, we had to talk about friends. You have different type of friends. You have your best friends, but you also got to be careful about it too, because there are some best friends. There are some people who would try to get into your best friend circle, and it's not that they are protecting you, it's not happening, it's not all the time but there are some that's like it's not that they're protecting you, but they're trying to. What am I trying to say? Cut everyone else off, to single you down to only them. I'm trying to fit the word is escaping me right now but it's like they're trying to have you all to themselves, and you will notice that as well Horting.

Speaker 2:

Horting, yeah, and so when they would try to hoard you away from other people, you have some best friends that are always trying to cut you from having other friends. That's usually something to always look out for too.

Speaker 1:

Sometimes that happens in relationships too, to where it's like you know, oh, you're the, I need to be the only best that you're talking to.

Speaker 2:

There's a thing about like here's that me and my wife we like, we have like. The thing about it is is that I am friends with some females that my wife does not like, but I respect those boundaries and it's one of those things I'm like okay, got you, you don't like them, but she's, she has told them before. She says, I mean, but that's you, you talk to them, you still cool with them, as long as you understand what about what the boundaries are. And I'm like, of course, and that's just what it is. So, yeah, I have female friends and I do have some that my wife does not like, but I respect boundaries into it because we're cool in our own way that is different from her. And then my wife has, she has some friends that I don't necessarily like, but they're not like toxic and like the minute they try to overstep.

Speaker 5:

yeah, I'm going to intervene, obviously, but see I got a best friend that we've been best friends for, like since I was in sixth grade. She was in fourth grade and I mean we've been, and then the girl told me she had a little. Me, bro, I said damn, 20 years.

Speaker 1:

No see, that's the funny thing, is like it just be so crazy when, after all this time now, look 20 years.

Speaker 2:

That's a long ass time, though. Look, I mean just be honest on to this one. You already know specifically your little sister. You already know how me and her been for a long time. I did ask her out one time. She said no, she don't want to ruin her friendship and I just left alone that there you go. I guess some cases are kind of like, just like yeah.

Speaker 5:

I mean, what if y'all got married, bro? We would have been brothers.

Speaker 3:

Wow.

Speaker 2:

I mean, I still could send you a brother anyway.

Speaker 5:

So this one up. No, I mean it's been like liberal brother store.

Speaker 2:

Okay. You know, what it would have been. You would have been on anime a lot sooner.

Speaker 5:

That's a fact.

Speaker 2:

It's only because of the fact that that war is the reason that it took so long before you really got really deep into it again. But really got deep into it, but you'd been on like right on to the point where I was watching all types of anime back since elementary school.

Speaker 1:

So in other words, you wouldn't, he wouldn't even need me because he was coming at me with anime recommendations back in the day. So it was like yeah, If it wasn't.

Speaker 2:

Dragon Ball Z I ain't care about that, and I get that Like and I get like there was a part of you that was like that. But no, I was watching a bunch of other stuff Like I was into some. I was a my mom actually. Funny enough is that my mom actually likes old school anime and that's one of the funny things about like a lot of older people. You don't realize that. No, my mom, because she was in the military, she got a chance to travel to other countries and stuff, so she was actually like she loved Astro Boy.

Speaker 1:

My mom loved Astro Boy, yeah, but hey, it's a classic.

Speaker 2:

It is and like that's what my mom loved, Like, so literally my family we've been in anime for the longest time because, like both my parents watched anime, that's just they watched it. My dad's not as much into it now as he used to be, but my mom still kind of is like she's still watching some of the shows Like tell me, you've seen some shit like Cyborg 009 in digital D.

Speaker 1:

I'm fucking berserk, fucking Right.

Speaker 4:

This is work for guts, my niggas yeah.

Speaker 5:

But it's the only one that I've seen from the ones you just said.

Speaker 4:

Cyborg 009 was an interesting anime.

Speaker 2:

Cyborg 009 was very good. Cyborg 009 and Ghost in the Shell was one of those ones that you could like.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Like them was the original anime that you had to like. You watched that shit Like you couldn't. Like you said, attack on Titan you had to pay attention. Definitely you had to pay attention. That was Ghost in the Shell and that was like Cyborg 009. Samurai 7, definitely Like Blood Sea.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, blood, sea, blood, plus Fuckin' Wolf's Rain, fucking Cowboy Bebop, fucking this ain't got nothing to do with this.

Speaker 5:

A lot of new anime just dropped this weekend, just so y'all know.

Speaker 2:

Yes, I know that.

Speaker 3:

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

I'm about to get on one right now called Ashura. I ain't that mad. I just got sold on the fact like I saw a clip. Somebody shared it on Instagram. Literally, this clip was just the fact that this dude he said that he's not a swordsman, he's a bandit. But literally he's got fucking Assassin's Creed vision Like oh, he is Right, right.

Speaker 2:

I'm just gonna like you can say that all you want, but literally he looked into a building and could see the heat signatures of the people in the building and knew who it was that shot at him and everything. But like the bullet is coming. Anyway, bro, he is definitely a swordsman, all the motherfuckers up in the most bloody ass way possible.

Speaker 5:

That's like Super Hot Fire Sam, but I'm not a rapper.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but like the thing is, I'm sitting here like as soon as I saw this, I said man, what's the sauce? I need this shit right away. Bro, I need to watch this. As soon as I saw he had Assassin's Creed vision, I was like, oh hell, yeah, like that shit right, there was so mean. As soon as I saw that, I'm about to go watch this, we're going to do this right now we can uh new anime.

Speaker 1:

I need to get on that one anime that uh Saitama Smash was talking about. Um, uh, freeran, um, I'm hopeful, I'm pronouncing that right, oh, freeran. Yeah, Freeran, Freeran, yeah yeah, I remember you guys sending it from me again.

Speaker 2:

So too, since we can talk about it. See, we're going to check that one out, but I'm going to go ahead and hop out.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, let's go ahead and wrap this shit up, Um. With that being said, ladies and gentlemen, thank you for listening to us ranting Remble for about three and a half hours now.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, we have a home podcast interview, bro, let's go.

Speaker 1:

Remember to follow us on Facebook. We are on Twitter. We are also on Instagram and Tik Tok. We will leave links in the episode description below. But remember, stay nerdy, stay spicy and remember that great things are coming. We are zoning out. Take it easy and good night y'all.

Speaker 5:

Oh yo.

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