Discover the hidden layers of character transformation and the fine line between love and karma as we unwrap the anime masterpiece "Scott Pilgrim Takes Off!" With a fresh perspective from my wife and a nod to other franchises, we dissect what makes this Netflix hit a stand-alone marvel that might just leave you questioning the need for a sequel. We're not just talking about plot twists; we're revealing the intricate character evolutions that leap far beyond the original movie and comic adaptations.
Prepare to be entertained and enlightened as we explore the complexities of relationships within the "Scott Pilgrim" universe and beyond. We shed light on Julie's and Knives' emotional journeys, chuckle over the "bad boy" trope, and even draw parallels to the challenges of conquering From Software games. This discussion isn't just about animated characters - it's about the intricate dance of navigating life's relationships, both on-screen and off.
Wrapping up the episode, we ponder the allure of wealth through the antics of "Scott Pilgrim's" own white-collar criminals and discuss the compelling dynamics of 'friends with benefits' as portrayed in various media!
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Discover the hidden layers of character transformation and the fine line between love and karma as we unwrap the anime masterpiece "Scott Pilgrim Takes Off!" With a fresh perspective from my wife and a nod to other franchises, we dissect what makes this Netflix hit a stand-alone marvel that might just leave you questioning the need for a sequel. We're not just talking about plot twists; we're revealing the intricate character evolutions that leap far beyond the original movie and comic adaptations.
Prepare to be entertained and enlightened as we explore the complexities of relationships within the "Scott Pilgrim" universe and beyond. We shed light on Julie's and Knives' emotional journeys, chuckle over the "bad boy" trope, and even draw parallels to the challenges of conquering From Software games. This discussion isn't just about animated characters - it's about the intricate dance of navigating life's relationships, both on-screen and off.
Wrapping up the episode, we ponder the allure of wealth through the antics of "Scott Pilgrim's" own white-collar criminals and discuss the compelling dynamics of 'friends with benefits' as portrayed in various media!
Text us for feedback and recommendations for future episodes!
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What's good, nerds? We're starting 2024 with a bundle of reviews, some nerdy news and we might do an after dark episode. If y'all seen the latest club shay shay interview with cat Williams oh man, I got some shit to say about that, but that's not the episode for today. Today we are going to be talking about Scott Pilgrim Ticksaw. What's up? Further dude.
Speaker 2:Let's go ahead and get into it.
Speaker 1:I'm going to be honest with you, and I know I said this in the last Scott Pilgrim review. I'm not a prophet, but I did foretell the series. See, I knew that if they're going to bring back Scott Pilgrim, first of all it got to be anime. Second of all, it got to be on Netflix. Third of all, I don't care if it's a prequel or retelling of the movie, as long as it's good. It delivered on all three and I fucking love it. Now I'm going to go ahead and put this to you like this. You know how we normally say ratings for last right, but if I'm absolutely sure about something, I'm just going to go ahead and get it out of the way. Five stars, I love it. Beautiful. Talking about oh, it's not likely. This is going to get second season. It doesn't need a second season. That's how good it is. Similar to Cyberpunk edgebrothers. Ten episodes, that's all you need. But what's your guys like feeling about Scott Pilgrim Ticksaw?
Speaker 2:I'm not the same, bro. Like, in all honesty, it was one that I enjoyed watching it all the way through, because it's one of those ones that's like there's multiple adaptations for the same story. So when I first watched it, you know, the first episode was like, okay, it's going to probably just be like a series, it's literally just a movie. But we get a little bit more flesh out, thinking that, okay, it's going to be dope, got this. And then, you know, you hit that twist and I'm like wait what? And so at that moment I was like wait, hold on. I feel like I know this. So there's one of those ones I forget.
Speaker 2:Some sometimes ready for core tends to help out. We don't usually go to Red and Corliss, which is one of the basic nonsense, but now it's time to go ahead and get there. And it, you know, got a full reminder onto that one that this series was up being an adaptation of the comic book, and a lot of people don't know that the comic book and the video game had two completely different storylines. So, getting that aspect of it, it is enjoyable, like very enjoyable. It's extremely cliche as hell. It was one. You know, for me, a series is good if I had to stop watching it and tell my wife hey, I need you to watch this with me. I was like three episodes. I was in the third episode and I stopped watching it and I said I need to start over, I need you to watch this with me. And then we was just watching it and she absolutely was like we got to watch the next episode of Scott. We'd be staying up late trying to watch the next episode, honestly, trying to go ahead and get this.
Speaker 1:My experience was okay. I was kind of late to it, but I finally got around to it. Once I renewed my Netflix and all that and I was watching like the first episode and all that. I was like wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on, hold on. Matthew Patel kills Scott. What? Okay, okay, here's the funny thing. But, JB, how can you say this about Scott Puckelton? So I've criticized Masters of the Universe in the same breath. I'm like look here, scott Puckelton takes off. Did it in a way that's actually good? With Masters of the Universe, you're assuming that he man is going to take the spotlight and then, oh, he just get killed off in the first episode.
Speaker 2:No, no, no. No, it's not even just so much that it was bullshit how it happened, but why? Yeah, because he was willing to accept it. Understand my father-in-law was not whatsoever. He was a major he-man like fan in the 80s and stuff. And he wasn't like a kid in the 80s, he was an adult in the 80s, so like he was a major he-man fan. So when I told him, oh, they killed off he-man first episode, he was pissed. He was like what the fuck? He said how you gonna have he-man in Masters of the Universe? I said it's not called he-man in Masters of the Universe, it's just Masters of the Universe, that's it. I'm just like, okay, I guess I can't get behind this. I was willing to go behind that. The thing is, it's not so much of just the shock factor that happens, it's how you follow through with it. Because in this one and honestly it's a great, you made this comparison, jp In this one Scott dies, and now we're following Ramona.
Speaker 2:Ramona is an interesting character. We're watching her development. We're watching how she's going through all this different shit with her exes, but we're also seeing everything that's going on with the exes as well too. The story lines up and flows. They did not do that with Masters of the Universe. I could not follow along. Afterwards, you killed he-man. Okay, how do we proceed further? Are we doing a time skip? Okay, time skip. After this, I wonder why you had to do a time skip. We didn't know how to handle this stuff, so everything just went to ruin the character we're supposed to be following.
Speaker 2:She still has no idea anything about herself, even though she's had years of growth trying to. The world fell apart and she had no idea what to do. It's like, okay, you tried to build a woman to be independent and I have no problem, I love that but you try to build her being independent after she's had years of failing because she's still wanted to be dependent on him. That's where the writing failed me on that shit. I'm like, nah, nah, just not how that works. You can't build someone and be like, oh, I'm just now, after years of finally getting over this and now I'm going to be this independent person, and then still trash the character Like just, they didn't care about her. We cared about Ramona.
Speaker 2:We actually was watching what was happening. She was shocked as hell. She thought that she said, damn, he's dead, I'm about to move on. And then we got a realization no, he might not be. And you know what she did. She said I'm going to go find this nigga, I need to go figure this out. There's something going on and we had a story to follow and it was good. That's the biggest difference. That's the biggest difference. It's not just a shock factor. How do you follow up? If you shock me, you have my attention, but if you shock me and then lose my attention afterwards, that is your fault.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:There's nothing else in it.
Speaker 1:And can I? Can I piggyback on what you said earlier to where, how they carried on from there to where, even with the exes. I like how with the exes they were asking the real questions like, for starters, why the fuck would any of those exes be cool with getting me and getting the girl at the end? They finally addressed that in this series. I'm like somebody finally asking the real questions in this shit.
Speaker 2:And you also tell me the fact that the only reason they wound up asking was because it failed. Like you know, he's like oh, I won, so that means I get the girl, and then that failed. So then he had to ask okay, well, hey, if this was the agreement, how come this didn't work out? And then finding out that's not how that works. I think the biggest thing into the movie aspect is they all kept losing, so there was no, there was no way to have no reason to ask, because nobody was winning anyway. It wasn't really making difference.
Speaker 1:Okay, now hold on. First of all, mackie Patel. Way stronger than in the anime than well, let's be honest, it's a American Japanese production, so it's classified as an anime. Let's put that to bear right now. In the anime. Way stronger in comparison. Well, let's be honest, the movie was kind of good the way they did Matthew Boy. At the same time, it's kind of pilled in comparison to both the anime and the game because, as we talked about before, matthew is like one of the hardest bosses, if not the hardest boss in the game.
Speaker 2:No, you're not the hardest. The hardest bosses, okay, but can see me.
Speaker 1:But, yeah, one of the hardest. Okay, I like how, okay, since he was the one who, quote unquote killed Scott. He should be the one in charge of the league and take over the empire and all that. And he had the fight with Gideon. Gideon lost and I'm like, okay, whatever I'm done. And then, since we've, Matthew decided to okay, you know what, now that I'm the big boss, now I'm going to produce a movie and whatnot, where we win and blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 1:But they were like no, no, no, Just make a movie about what if Scott beat Matthew? And they pretty much tried to retell what happened in the movie, almost like, okay, it's going to feel like a retelling of the movie, but at the same time, you're getting back story from what happened before the movie and a glimpse of what could have happened in the future. And we'll get to that. Can I also say the main thing all these exes, they have way more characterization in the anime than the movie. Now, keep in mind I know, I know in a movie you can't flesh out everything and like, especially back in 2010, when this movie came out, and you're like, okay, to be fair, they're probably going to have a whole lot of time to focus on everything.
Speaker 1:But in the anime they took their time with the characters and it seems like, okay, I can see how they're more alike when things panda like. Like how we didn't really know how Ramona's relationship with Roxy ended, but now we got to see in the anime and essentially with Roxy she was like the main one. That was like saying, bro, can I at least get some closure or something you know? And then that was pretty much the gist of this whole series, where Ramona was like not running from her past but making peace with it as she's trying to dissolve this mystery of what happened to Scott. But, um, Cook, you guys, you want to add on?
Speaker 2:to that Actually, yeah, so it is one of those things that did help out with a lot of development and it created a new, fresh story. Like it's looking at as far as the show like I'm not going to look at as far as the comic it did a really great job adapting the comic. Um, it even made some little changes that were definitely pretty funny as well too, but as far as like development, it gave a fresh new story that we wanted to have. Like you said, versus the film, she's running from her exes, trying to run from her life and wants to have Scott, and I mean it was not really too much of a spoil in the end, since we already know kind of stuff, because obviously, if you're listening to this, you've already seen it Um, and the fact that the biggest difference as well, too, from Ramona running from her exes, in the end Scott doesn't get Ramona.
Speaker 2:But in the series, when she finally faces her exes and she finally faces her past and realizes her own mistakes, her own flaws, then what winds up happening is is now she's able to actually accept Scott as a boyfriend and then later on as a husband. So it's like it took her really having that growth and then did kind of mention that in the movie was that she just she admitted she just wasn't ready for another relationship. So Scott became an ex. So it's just how it worked out. But in that aspect we finally get a chance that she gets closer and now that she has that moment that it wasn't just closure for the exes but it was closure for her to finally accept and actually be able to move on and it gave an excellent fresh story for us to follow.
Speaker 2:It's like I was mentioning we had a character that we were interested in seeing what the hell was going on.
Speaker 1:It felt like, even though it was titles, Scott Pilgrim takes off. It felt more like Ramona flowers takes off.
Speaker 2:True, I mean it's Scott Pilgrim in the name because it was supposed to still. I mean, we still had to follow along to find out what the fuck happened to Scott. But yeah, it's like one of those ones was a. Was it cute? A comic I kill. Where really a comic is the main character. Like, if you read the manga on that, one I'll come out is actually the main character in the person we're following. But if you watch just the anime, is not her at all that we're following.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like they may toss me, like toss me was supposed to be the expository character to where it's like okay, we learn more about the world through top to me eyes, but they focused on him so much that it felt like he was the protagonist. That was the problem.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, and then even in the manga, like we're actually looking at things explained through like a comic explaining stuff, like she's getting this information from top to me, and then she's explained like she still was the narrator of the story per se and that's not at all what happens in the anime. So it's kind of the same thing that Scott Pilgrim had into this one. As far as into this show, it's still called Scott Pilgrim, but yeah, the person we're really following is Ramon and I'm not upset about that. I think one of the best things for me is how she also changes her hair in every episode beginning very, very, very. Yeah, I thought I was. I don't know why. I'm refreshing to me.
Speaker 1:It's just, yeah, it's almost like every time you watch a new, a different episode is like I wonder okay, would she go and change her hair and do this Right?
Speaker 2:And it's actually very interesting. It's a very simple process. My girlfriend, I said my wife, wow See, scott, I'm wrong in the situation. But no, my wife wound up joking one time too in the fact of saying that oh, you say that's how your hair falls out. How is she bleaching her head this damn much? And I'm like babe, this is show. They literally break the fourth wall. They all know that they're in the show.
Speaker 1:I mean come on like with their abilities and whatnot. It's just. I just don't put it past like see honestly in the movie, even though I kind of knew. But I just really appreciate how in the anime it just makes it more clear that Ramona is just running around with these high-powered rollerblades and a bag of holding from D&D.
Speaker 2:Bro. Yes, she's literally just a fucking broken-ass character. That's Amy, like Amy from fucking Sonic.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like Amy, but more like a rope, but more rope-like. You know, if anything is more like she's Amy, except her Sonic is more in love with her than she. Well, I won't say that, but you know how it is where Amy was like looking at Sonic with stars and stuff.
Speaker 2:The absolute canon is Archie Comics. In Archie Comics there's only one iteration where Sonic actually ends up with Amy. Otherwise, sonic always ends up with another chick and is most consistently with this one particular girl. So just be realistic.
Speaker 1:Amy doesn't get it like that you just feel so. Serpents sometimes Like she just wanna love you, Sonic, she's like she's for me, she's for somebody else, thank you.
Speaker 2:Thank you, what's up, bro? Now, as far as the storyline into it, it was also one of the best things into it. Let's dive, even just really quickly into it. Each episode we got a chance to revolve around a different ex and I like how it was not in order, because in the movie you had to go in order for how things are gonna go and we thought that that was about to happen and that's not really what happened. We did get a little bit of a jump around so it was like cool, we can actually just have different evil exes. Like she fought the fourth evil ex before anyone else and like boom there we go.
Speaker 2:And that's what you get the realization with.
Speaker 1:Roxie, Can I also mention how? I mean I don't think they have a straight up episode dedicated to them, but can I just mention how, jumping forward a little bit into the last chunk of the episode where, essentially in the future, Scott is friends with the twins and you just like wondering now keep in mind the twins don't even have lines in the movie.
Speaker 1:In the anime it just seemed like they're even more fleshed out characters to where they were the ones. That was like helping Scott. We'll get to it, but you know, I thought it was kinda cool though.
Speaker 2:It was. It was pretty dope that we wound up having, oh yeah, they like switch sides. And this is also one of the funniest things too, cause this is something that really they said something to show that really was like, and it was in the comics as well, and it's very controversial. So literally he says yeah, so after they respond I guess they just had a different thing and I'm like respond Y'all had a whole funeral for Scott, you telling me that he could just respond, did he run?
Speaker 1:out of line.
Speaker 2:Y'all said that he was always lucky. Now can you.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm sitting here like Mona's, literally just sitting here like oh, he's not gonna respond. I need to actually find him so he cause he's never actually coming back to me. Yeah, honestly. I think, also the funniest thing, too, is the fact that, literally like Scott cause, then the fact that he's well known for going against high level characters and still always winning. His death was like 37 cents and change.
Speaker 2:I'm sitting here like that. Don't make no sense. Wait a second. That was how I knew. I said I don't see him right. I don't think that nigga did. He know what he thought he was worth 37 cents.
Speaker 1:Now I really want to talk about what really happened. But before we get into that because honestly I want to save the last bit for last because that's where I really got my most head as take on what happened. But I want to explore on these X's a little bit more to where? Okay, for starters, let's talk with Gideon and Lucas, where they pretty much become best buddies. But this was after Gideon lost it all and he stumbled to, well, stumbled past Julie. And that's the funny thing too, julie, you would think she had like some sort of significance in the movie, but you don't really see that all that much. But in the anime, apparently Julie is Ramona's best friend and you kind of see that a little bit more not much of an improvement, but a little bit more in the anime. But also she knew Gideon back when he was going by Gordon Goose aka Fearless, and he was like, hold on, even Julie is more of a character in this shit. Okay, right, right.
Speaker 2:Like every minor character has some more background into it. We even got a chance to see knives develop, not just be all over like in the movie. She was all over Scott, everything Like she. Just it was so heartbroken, couldn't accept the fact that he was cheating on her and stuff. But in the show she was like shit, I moved the fuck on Like she was mad for you four cup episodes. But after that she moved the fuck on. She moved the fuck on.
Speaker 1:Actually it felt more like, okay, he died, and really they didn't drag out their relationship that much in the anime compared to the movie. So with the movie it felt more like a slow burn to the betrayal. So that's why it felt like it had to be more focused on her feeling betrayed by Scott or Ramona. You know how that went down in the movie, but in this one it was like, okay, the relationship was about as short lived as I'm sorry.
Speaker 2:Pretty much.
Speaker 1:But after Scott comes back and was playing that, it was almost like okay. Well, I pretty much pieced together that you cheated on me with Ramona, but you know what it is, what it is. We probably wasn't meant to be, because you know I'm a minor. You're 23 in the anime, apparently because you know they do some little red cons where you know.
Speaker 2:So, honestly, even in the movie he was like he was old, she was still under, she was still 17. Regardless of the fact that he was still doing some illegal ass shit, anyway.
Speaker 1:That, that that, yeah, so it wasn't meant to be anyway, so it was like it was. Yeah, so it would probably been better off if he was like okay, you know what, to be fair, it wasn't for me, but hey, that's what you with Ramona and all that shit.
Speaker 2:That's right and so. But yeah, like also real quick, cause I know you was talking about the exes. So we get in and Luke is lead. How they both fell hard and lost everything and then wound up becoming best bros, best buzz and actually working things together. Wow, secretly, gideon was still plotting to take it back his organization, which I found that whole funny thing with Julius as well too. Yeah, she was upset cause he was like, oh he's just boring, he does nothing. But she wanted that bad boy, she wanted the evil villain getting in back.
Speaker 1:Cook. You got to listen.
Speaker 2:She's like I don't want, if you're supposed to be fair, the show actually be that.
Speaker 1:And I'm like no, listen, listen, you remember Nesty Classified right.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:Okay, Remember when Luma was dating Susie and he was being like all nice and shit and like, meanwhile, Ned Gordy, all these different people were like getting into the heads of Susie and Luma and in the end Luma decided to just stick with being a bully. But Susie was like you know what? I was going to break up with you because you were being too soft, but I like how you brought back bully Luma. So we're good now, Cool, I can work with this. So, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. So what do you mean to tell me that you are any better as a villain? I was like I mean, it's more exciting, you know, it's not boring.
Speaker 2:So you know, look, gentlemen we're gonna talk about it in that episode. We don't talk about it in that episode. But Dammit, shannon did ask Kat dude like for a toxic women over.
Speaker 1:It's like he said toxic women, because I'm more interested in just saying Look, look, we don't make up the rules, we just, at the very least, we just putting y'all on game. It's like, hey, man, like I just can't have y'all running around being lied to anymore. It just breaks my heart.
Speaker 2:I just got beyond what y'all be like hey, man it be like that sometimes so like and it's one of those things that you just be like okay, look, it's not the ideal thing, Obviously, it's never a good thing to go with something toxic. It's never the idea. However, everybody needs a little jumble, jumble, jumble every night again. Let's put in this aspect. Let's put in even just in the simple video game aspect. Everybody complains how hard from software games are.
Speaker 2:But that's the main selling point into it. If you wanted a game that you could beat easily, you could have won a different game, but that's not why you got this game From software is appealing to the hardcore gamers.
Speaker 1:to where you won a game that would really test someone's pride and ego and whatnot. To where, oh, this can't be this game. I guess you can, I guess you ain't all that then I was like oh, oh, you wanna bet? I'm like I'm gonna beat your fucking game.
Speaker 2:You want a game that shits on you because every gamer has two poses. You have to sit back, relax and you got to lean forward. I'm about to grind up in this bitch Like that's just like. You have the two poses for a reason.
Speaker 1:If you really want to capital. You might not get it Right, right, but you know, it is what it is, gentlemen, it is what it is. But oh, what else were the answers? Oh, I did rock. See what I did, Todd.
Speaker 2:Todd, oh my.
Speaker 1:God Okay, okay.
Speaker 2:Oh Todd.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, todd, okay.
Speaker 2:The wrong pose to dare right.
Speaker 1:You got it. You got it bad. He had it so bad for Wallace when it was like April, it was just a gig, it was just for the movie, bro, like it ain't that deep. And I was like how can you play with my feelings like this?
Speaker 2:This is one of those funny things where it's like cause, that was something that Todd was known for in the game and that's what he was known for even before this, even in the comic and the show as well too was that he would frequently get girlfriends, cheat on them and make it seem like, oh, this is what it is, it was unimportant and stuff. Hell, even as far as his vegan, as far as veganism, he will always cheat at every nine again. He would never cheat it too much, he just cheated enough to where he could still maintain, you know, retain his powers and stuff. But that was about it. So listen.
Speaker 1:I just got through watching Boomerang with Eddie Murphy, dave Allen, greer, martin.
Speaker 2:Lawrence, how are all of them?
Speaker 1:I just got through watching that movie and I'm going to review on it. But the point being that I'm bringing this up is because that's pretty much the point of that movie, to where Eddie Murphy, who is Marcus in this movie, he was being a womanizer, you know, flirting with all these women, sleeping with all these women, playing with these women's feelings, until one day this one woman, jacqueline, showed up. God gave him the same run around and then he'd feel him some type of way about it when he found out that he was a victim of his own gain. And that's pretty much how it is, bro, like, sometimes, karma, see, that's what makes me realize karma is real, bro, like. I've seen it in real life. I might save it for after our episode, but I've seen this happen real. Out to where I've seen somebody treating people dirty next to you know life is sitting on them and I'm like, hey, man, karma's real man.
Speaker 2:I don't want none of that happening to me.
Speaker 1:So I'm like I keep my nose clean. I'm like I don't want none of that this is so true.
Speaker 2:Also, speaking on to the after dark, we definitely check us out. If you really want to listen to any of our podcasts where we're talking about things not necessarily specifically nerdy, even sometimes real life stuff, maybe things a little bit more wrong, it's like three-folded yeah. Yeah, Like definitely check out our Patreon so that way you can get access into that. You definitely love this so you guys can listen to us on there. Links are always gonna be in the description of every episode.
Speaker 1:We're gonna let our nuts hang on the ladies bro.
Speaker 2:But dude, like got it bad, is such the biggest understatement, to the point that dude, literally, hey, this is my trailer. You want a tour? This is where Wallace and I first kissed, this is where we first did that, this is where we did this and I'm sitting here like damn.
Speaker 1:What's up bro?
Speaker 2:Oh, what was it my wife? What was she saying? She said damn. She said, that pussy was that good. Like dude thought he knew what he wanted in life. Got him one time and was like Listen, wallace Wells.
Speaker 1:This was the same dude. That was like juggling three different dudes in the movie.
Speaker 2:So this was also the same dude that literally mocked the person that was supposed to be playing him in the movie. Mocked him so bad that he got the role to play himself.
Speaker 1:Wallace Wells just got that pull man. I don't blame him.
Speaker 2:What was it? I think it was one thing it was a stand-up comedian one time that she made this joke and it was still funny as hell when it was like I think no, but this was a slightly different but still thing when apparently his girlfriend at the time was kept telling him that she wanted to peg him and he was like no, she's like you might like it. He's like might like it. So there's literally people who's marching every single year in the month of June for this. There's people who fight for their rights every day to enjoy it Because and still maintain their jobs and their livelihoods and not be judged by it. He said it might be more than a possibility of just like it. I might love that, because obviously they do. He's just, I can't do that with you and it was a particular reason. It's not important right now, but that's pretty much what wound up happening with Todd and Cromon.
Speaker 2:This one he did not know. He did not know All. It took Wallace one time to be like, hey, you want to go recite our lines real quick? Yeah, sure, we'll go recite the lines. And then go recite the lines and it was definitely reciting something else, that was not no lines, the way that the trailer kept moving more and more each time, the way it kept bouncing around.
Speaker 1:I'm sorry, I hate to say this, but in a way Wallace Wells kind of reminds me of the whole James Charles on drama that was going on a while ago to essentially this song. Guys, you're like, nah, I'm not really interested in gay guys. I want to go for like straight dudes and see if I can convert them. And, to be fair, Wallace Wells did do that in the movie too, with Stacey's boyfriend True he did it, wallace.
Speaker 2:like you said, he got them bulls. He's even older, wallace.
Speaker 1:That was the funniest thing that I had ever gotten married to a dude working for Nintendo. Fuck.
Speaker 2:Just one of those things and I like how they kept that secret forever. It was like who's he married to? Because I'm going to be honest, I thought you know, we're not even there yet. We're not there. I'm not going to jump into that yet, but I had a person I thought he was married to based on how interactions was going along. I think they purposely wrote it to make it feel that way, only to drop that bomb of like no, is this guy, dude, you ain't never met before. He's just introduced just to show you that this is who his husband is. Oh man, but gosh almighty. But Todd also wanted to have that development With his breakup, with Envy.
Speaker 2:I have read about women who get so pissed off about that, about the fact that when they break up with the guy and Then he goes and dates another guy and it's one of those things because it's always the uncle and joke him like dang, you broke that man so bad that he said he don't want to deal with no women, no more, and they went and found another guy, type of thing. And it always like put so much of that blame onto the woman and there's not the case. A lot of times is not the case, but it's just one of those things that lotto's women get hit so hard onto that and so many things get so mad Because there's also that jealousy aspect into it too, because it happens for these guys also. You make girls so mad that her next person that she dates is a girl. Keep mine. That's also what happened with Todd. Remember Todd was the third ex Roxy right before I Got her Mona so mad that she went with the girl.
Speaker 1:Bro, and that's funny too, because I'm not gonna say any names, but I remember this happened back in the days where there was this girl that I was kind of digging. But you know, nothing really happened between me and her, but she was dating this one dude and I don't know what the fuck happened, but Apparently that was the last dude I know who dated her. And then somewhere along the lines she just went gay and I'm like, okay, nothing wrong with her doing that. But it's more like, bro, what the fuck did you do to make her jump ship?
Speaker 2:I promise you I've been. I know someone just like that. I'm still cool with her and everything I'm telling you need to like hit me up whenever she wants her. She is fine, yeah, it's fine as hell. But I always tell I'm like, look, you are model status. When you ready, I will be your manager girl. I can get you the hookups. It's calm, oh, but she keeps saying no, so I'm like whatever.
Speaker 2:Um, but for real is literally the fact that I knew who it was that hurt the last guy that she dated and this is the thing she was very heavy Christian woman. Okay, that's, that's why it was such a big thing. Into that heavy Christian woman Absolutely was like no, she literally I've seen her. She would look at Women who liked other women is like it's such a sin. I don't know why did you do that type of thing?
Speaker 2:Literally after she broke up with this guy and I knew it was gonna be a bad breakup because I knew how this guy was Literally the next person she's dating, still dating. Now they going on about a whole thing. What, two years now, two years still have it's still good, healthy relationship and I'm very proud, I'm very happy. Into this there's a woman, and I'm talking about like she was. Every post she make on Facebook was a very spit, was a scripture all the time. None of that, no more, bro. I was like God, what did he do? He is right, you didn't change. You know, I don't think she changed religion, but it feel like it, like that you didn't change whole religions and that.
Speaker 1:I mean, I think with Christianity got to a point where I don't think they're that uh well, not wrong episode for it, but I feel like it wouldn't be that drastically changed with. Okay, now that you change your sexual orientation, you're just uh, not gonna be a Christian anymore. I'm like no, because, believe me, I know people who not exactly straight, but they still go to uh Christian church though, yeah look I have.
Speaker 2:We can definitely talk about it until an after dark episode.
Speaker 1:That can be a thing religion versus homosexuality and I say religion because it's not yeah, that's why I'm like, oh okay, hold on, let me try to See a little, because you know yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:And because his thing about is that I I have no issues with like, you love who you love. The main thing for me is are you a happy individual? Are you going through life? You're not killing people, you're not raping children, you're not gonna pop up on Epstein's list.
Speaker 1:So my god that list.
Speaker 2:Let's go back rough chubby. But for real, though, it's like, as long as you are still a healthy, happy human being, I don't give a fuck who you love, as long like, just not underaged, obviously, and making sure you're treating them with respect, like that's just really what it is. How Stella got her groove back was one of my favorite movies. Her biggest issue was the fact that she was like I cannot Approve dating this guy because he's old, because I'm old enough to be his mama For his thing. He's old enough now to make his own decisions and he is able to willingly choose her and she's able to willingly choose him.
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Speaker 2:Okay, no no, can work the farm no, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:It's like, it's like dating Goku, but he, if Goku didn't literally didn't do anything. I'm not talking about just forming, but I'm talking about like saving the world from destruction of all types of enemies and whatnot. If Scott would be Goku, if Goku did literally nothing it is true, he's very true.
Speaker 1:It was like the only thing he was doing was music, and even then it wasn't as popular yeah, I can't see why, in that case where I'm like, bro, you got nothing going on other than your band, and well, in the movie he quit, but in the anime I'd no, no, he didn't quit or he's not yet, I don't know.
Speaker 2:I don't know. No, no, once he had the movie was written by Ramona in order to try to give him a hint to understanding what happened to Scott, because she knew what happened to Scott. So it was just that thing of yeah, no, like Scott wasn't getting paid for that movie or nothing like that whatsoever. The only thing he had was his band. The band broke up and then he went alongside with the twins. That was it. That was all they had.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's what happened he had.
Speaker 2:He had nothing. He had nothing. He was. The dude was written to be a bum. He had no doubt crashing in his friend's house, crashing in his friends apartment and never leaving, even though his friend keeps telling him to get the fuck out. Never leaving, always eating a bottle of food, dating an underage girl, cheating on the girl he's dating. He was never meant to be a likeable character. Yeah, he was written from the beginning to be it like absolute trash but that's just.
Speaker 1:The thing is almost like he comes off and oh, I hate to say this, I really hate to say this but it's almost like Scott is like Jerry, but more. I mean, he's not supposed to be likeable, but it's like he put it. But it's almost like there's a range to where he's not the most detestable character, but it's almost like, in a way, he comes off as kind of like this awkward and harmless guys where he's not the most malicious person you'll ever meet but he's not exactly the most stable person either. So it's like that middle ground to where I'm like okay, well, I've dated worse. That's the thing it's like.
Speaker 2:It's not much of an improvement, but hey, I've dated worse you know, what I felt like yeah, that definitely I can, I can, I can definitely re-enseeing that one because that's just yeah. Yeah, because the twins. Honestly, there was nothing really bad about twins. She dated them quickly apparently not even at not the same time. One first went for one brother than the other. But still the biggest thing was Gideon.
Speaker 2:In the movie, gideon was the biggest threat and in the show that was completely eliminated, like Patel wasn't even the biggest threat. He just kept fucking shit up. He cut the movie production and fired everyone, just because he was upset that the movie was written, that he was supposed to lose, and then in the very end the only thing he wanted was his theater. That's all he wanted was theater again. So at the very end, when Gideon just in here, like, oh, I'm about to have this massive plot, I'm about to have the stage collapse and have everything, have you, have all this bullshit about to happen, have these bombs set up? And in the end Patel was just like I don't know, I don't have no idea what to do with all this money. I took all this stuff thinking I'm like, oh yeah, I'm big boss, man, I have no idea what the fuck I'm doing. I suck about having money. I cannot be a rich person. This is not for me.
Speaker 1:You can have a bad day in those moments he had a Dennis Reynolds, moments where I'm like I just want the illusion of power and push.
Speaker 2:He wanted fame. That's what he wanted the fame. But he did. The riches was not the thing for him. Yeah, some, some people like like. Fame and fortune are still two different things for a reason. There's some people who can do both, but most people are usually one of the other. You want to be famous and you're horrible with your fortune. You have not stopped nothing. You don't have no extra like backup money, none of that stuff. Then you have people who like the fortune of it. They're famous for a little bit, but they always be hidden behind the scenes. You know of this person. You don't see them all the time.
Speaker 2:Like how you said, jb, how you said before Cat Williams gave on this interview, you was questioning what are Cat Williams and Eddie Murphy do it doing right now? Not Eddie Murphy, eddie Griffin, yeah. Now, what are they doing right now? Stacking they paper, they touring. They're still out doing something. Are they like the biggest headlines? No, they stacking they paper. That's what they're doing. They are the fortune of it.
Speaker 2:Same for Dave Chappelle, you only. You don't hear about him until another stand-up shop pops up. He's still doing interviews is a big oh. Does he want to be? No, he lives his life. That's what is happening. That's that's the stack in his paper. 50 cent only pops up every night again just to save some off the wall tweets.
Speaker 2:Other than that, he's stacking his paper. That's just what it is. That's Snoop Dogg same thing. Like he has a lot of fame. That's because people just follow him on to it, but in that this dude is doing everything literally cooking like he's now has his own special grill when he trolled us all on that one. Like he's stacking his paper. So it's like there's some people who want the fame, some people want the fortune. And Patel, he wanted the fame. He wanted people to know who he was one of people to see his talent when he got the fortune. That was not it. That was not what he needed. Gideon. Gideon is a mastermind behind the scenes. You can know who he is and you fear what he does. That's not the thing is, the fame is not for that. You feel he does because he has the fortune power. He has all this shit.
Speaker 1:I agree, but this also brings up where I believe I talked about this when we did the Harry Potter review, but just case I didn't, let me just put it on the record here.
Speaker 1:This is why, even though I do not, like umbridge because she has one thing that makes her a great villain political power. To where she was the type of villain to where, as much as you don't like her, you can't easily deal with her because she has an advantage over you. That's the same thing. We have money and shit. To where it's like you have all this power. You can't just walk up to someone with that much power and think on, it's gonna be low-dif to deal with someone like that. No, it's like you have to go through channels and shit, like you probably have to rise up to the cage into where you have to be just as big as they are to pretty much make them all fall. So some shit like that's where, like just kind of like how, what cat, what I know we talking about, but you made a lot of good points.
Speaker 1:What can I say? It's like what Cat Williams said about Elon Musk and other folks where, oh, they're making like all bunkers and shit. But a listen, once you have a billion dollars, you can do whatever the fuck you want they're not gonna act for any permits like police, not gonna get involved. Nothing that shit. If you have a billion dollars, you say you want to do something, they would just go ahead and let you do it exactly.
Speaker 2:Once you got money, you have the power. That's a real thing. You could be hit with any type of lawsuit and pay it off if you got enough money for yeah banks do it all the time. You know, literally Bank of America. Just so last year I'm not gonna say this year alone, cuz I don't know about this year yet we just started last year had, I think it was a hundred and something, losses. Do you know that? Of course not mean I'm not surprised.
Speaker 1:But listen, there's so much white collar crime going on, but we barely hear about it because what they gonna do is like, oh, they're gonna take me to jail, I'm just gonna bail myself out with the money I got.
Speaker 2:I paid to the point I'm gonna have to show up in court. Yeah, mommy, guilty, I pay it. And then I paid to have it off my record because I have enough money to do that see here's the thing about it.
Speaker 1:I have served my thing here's my thing, though, at this point, because let's be real, as kids it'll be really nice to be like a millionaire or billionaire and blah, blah blah. But as I grew up, I realized you know what, I kind of don't care for that status, like it would be okay. But at the same time all I'm saying is amen, as long as I make enough money to still do business up until like, okay. Of course I want to make enough money to retire like hell. I even try to come up with, like a early retirement plan, but all I'm saying is I'm not doing it just for the money. I never have. This is more about making sure that I have the freedom that I, you know, so I can gain freedom to do whatever I want to do. But also I see my family in dire straits or what I would, whatever they got going on.
Speaker 1:I probably see some friends that's saying like, oh man, I got all this shit going on and I'm like, hey, I have the power to help you. So like, since I have the money for, I'm like I don't have no problem going on my way for it. See, that's my thing. Like even one time I was attending church one time, and the kids. What's all gonna mean? One day, man, let me borrow a hundred thousand dollars.
Speaker 1:I'm like, hey, man, look, I don't got that on me, but if I do, I was you know, like for real. Like, yeah, listen, if I, if I have more than more money down, know what to do with, if I had a hundred thousand dollars, like that, I will let you know. That's, that's just kind of guy in. I'm like no need a fake or not just bro. Like if I got it I'll help you out, but if I don't, then please understand that I just can't give you that if I don't even you know. So all I'm saying is I don't really care that much by being super rich, but as long as I'm able to do whatever the fuck I want to do, I don't need to be a billionaire or a millionaire. I just need to do well enough to breathe above water, that's all true.
Speaker 2:True is one of the things I want you to know what you need. Money becomes so much of the easier thing to handle and you don't know what you need. Crazy like I. Um, and this is probably last analogy I make onto this one, because I mean it's still just talking about Gideon and Patel. Yeah, and it's one of those things of like how they're both such opposites in this aspect that Gideon is the rightful person to be the leader of the exes because he knows how to plan, he knows how he has an end goal. Mind everyone else like, oh, we just get the girl back. And then one even just everybody like that, like Lucas Lee didn't even really want Ramon back, he just was being a part of it.
Speaker 1:Let me talk about one of my favorite episodes of this series. Episode for it, like whatever. Like when that song came on, I was like that was a whole move right there. I was replaying that song like multiple times, like ever since I heard that shit, like I'll listen to that while I'm at work and whatnot like. So I went down and beat some, saw keke's, like whatever like right the wall was like.
Speaker 2:You know, whatever I'm like the wall was just screamed what? The wall of skateboards? The fact that him leaving out the front door of his mansion is a skate park, that was the ultimate. Whatever, whatever, anything. I have enough money. So what you want to check? My only transportation gonna be skateboards. Well, how you gonna? You know what? I'm gonna live on the path. I'm gonna live on the very, very top. So I'm gonna live on the roof of this hotel. Say, okay, I got you, but I want a mansion up there, the foot, and I want to skate park up there. Why? Cuz I got the money for whatever. Just do this is not using. I'm trying to figure out how he gets up there.
Speaker 2:See how you got down I don't even know how to you got back up there.
Speaker 1:That's the real question you don't think that money could have went towards the hungry, whatever?
Speaker 2:whatever. This is real. And then we got that little moment, that little segment at the very end, where he's working at the coffee shop and then all that one customer's just like whatever, he's like yeah, started playing back in his head. He was like, oh yeah. And I'm like, oh no, you just had growth, lucas Lee, you just had growth. But he never really wanted back for moment. He just he was happy the fact that she was there for him and he, he already moved on from the fact. That's how she left him. It was hurt, yeah, but he already had moved on from it. He just still keeps that memoir that broke his skateboard, is that memoir of the fact that she was someone who actually care for him and it helped him push the way he's doing now. Because of that moment he became a famous actor, because of all the stuff he was doing, because of that push. From that moment on, that one person was nice to him and so he realized he didn't want to back. This is whatever, yeah, you know whatever.
Speaker 2:Todd. Todd didn't really want Ramona back in the sense of wanting her back, because I was very different from, obviously, from the movie and from the show, because in the show, in the movie he gave he cared absolutely nothing about envy whatsoever like whatsoever. He cheated on her regularly. In fact it was like a big thing that in the video game in the movie that he went to the bathroom and screwed the drummer, the drummer girl, right before they fought Todd. That was just that's just what he did, type of thing. But then in the show he loved envy because it was a big thing about the fact that, like in the movie, it was like, oh, he blew a, um, he blew the hole through the moon. In the movie he did that for a moment, but he said he did it for him. In the show he actually did it for him and so it's like it was. It's almost like two completely different characters and the biggest difference one of being Todd's death. That's just to wear the shit into it, and I honestly think it might have.
Speaker 2:I think envy would have actually been a fault reason into that because Todd's still being alive, considering the fact that she literally dated Todd, then became famous and in the mean, not not on she dated Scott, then became a famous, then became famous in singing musician and then started dating Todd. But the thing about it is you could tell she never really got over Scott. So it wasn't until Scott died that she started being better in her relationship with Todd and so I'm assuming it's his aspect because obviously, scott dying, she had her closure moment by having her show at his funeral, which, but she had that moment. And then, you know, now all of a sudden it's a whole different Todd and envy relationship, like this is supposed to have been like a couple weeks, I think it almost like a month passed after Scott had died and now, and it's a whole different relationship between Todd and envy. So I truly feel that envy was also at fault for the reason why Todd kept wanting to cheat on her and it might have Scott might have been a factor into that. Considering that it's the only really comparison that I have as far as why their relationships were so different from the show versus the versus the movie. So it's like Scott still was doing some shit behind the scenes, apparently not even his fault, but he was still doing something behind the scenes and so that was just a whole thing in itself.
Speaker 2:Is the fact that in the show Todd didn't want Ramona back, he was just part of the league of evil X is because it was a way for him to flaunt his power. That was really what it was. He's a vegan with powers. He likes to flaunt that shit. That's just what it is. But he kept mentioning his girlfriend envy. He never really wanted to cheat on her until Wallace got that pool, you know, wanted to meet. Now one person just saying so, these things like as far as into that one.
Speaker 2:Roxy only wanted closure. She realized she thought she wanted Ramona back, but that wasn't really what she wanted. She just wanted closure. Once she got closure, she was trying to fuck any other girl that she could like. Immediately try to go after any other girl that she could like. Right there in the video warehouse was like mmm, can I kiss you and see if we do something? Yeah, I didn't do nothing. And what about the other chick, your boss, let me see if I can try her like you, just go ahead, go, go live your life. So that was really thing into.
Speaker 2:It is the fact that each one of them had different reasons for being in there, the only and even the twins. The twins didn't really. They were just there. Twins were just there. That was just like realistically so for them. No, they didn't really want her back either. They were just like. I would just hear. So it's like the only two people that wanted Ramona back was Patel and Gideon, and that was it. Those, the only main two that needed to be in the league of evil actions. That was it. So you see, like. So I'm looking at as far as it's even to that aspect as well too. You know that makes sense why. You know the twins was like oh yeah, we just got along with Scott in the future and she didn't. It was pretty interesting.
Speaker 2:I did want to mention this one. I was nervous when we found out that Wallace was married. There was like a couple hints. They kept trying to deny his, but I felt like it was almost written on purpose to kind of suggest that he was married to Scott. And the reason I say that in the aspect is because Scott was there like oh, wallace, you're married and he's like, and no matter what, the older Scott was like he's not ready, kid, don't tell him, don't, don't. He's not ready, don't tell him yet. But why isn't he ready yet? I think he deserves to know he's like, but no, he's not, and that. And that's all they kept doing was just kept hinting the fact that he just wasn't ready and they couldn't explain it. They would not explain it until, like, the next episode. I'm sitting here like is that? Did Wallace marry Scott Wallace? No, like I feel bad in saying that, not quite.
Speaker 1:I was like Wallace.
Speaker 2:No, you can do so much better. Next episode yeah, I'm married to a guy that works for Nintendo.
Speaker 1:Okay, thank God nah see, I was never worried because, like bro, like Wallace knew, like, come on, like how dare you believe that Wallace would marry Scott when he been trying to kick him out the house for so many years?
Speaker 2:okay, maybe, oh yeah, after someone has been there for so long you just kind of get used to it. That's that's how a lot of some relationships have worked out like this. Friends with benefits benefits very sometimes. That's usually what happens. That's that's a stick no set. Seven times out of ten friends with benefits usually get married because it usually happens to the point of you're having difficulty holding another relationship while you still want to have this friend, even if you cut off the benefit part of it. The fact that you have had this friend with benefits, the fact that you still have this friend that's close to you and y'all have had these beneficial relationships before, usually becomes a big issue in a relationship. It's just how it usually works out. That's what he's wanted to have a whole movie about it like friends of benefits.
Speaker 2:It's funny, but that's a real thing though you also know right you say that, but then realistically, eventually, that just how it worked out. I've seen so many, I've read so many on like you, some like yes, I'm being read it, but a lot of posts of people talking about the aspect where this dude just did not realize that he was so much into his friend and he kept failing every other relationship. But he couldn't realize. He didn't realize it until one day he and his friend finally just decided to go out one time and then, boom, he found out that was the reason why his other relationships was failing, because he kept comparing them to his friend who, realistically he wanted his friend but he didn't know that was just what wound up happening. I'm just saying that are some have a lot of cases that that happens and then even as far as nothing like a Viva Viva La Dirt League I love their videos always funny shit. They had one video where, as they have like, they have like a ongoing series of it too. So it's like the boss of their I guess their store apparently sell a lot of things, but a boss apparently is married, but he didn't know he was married. Literally he had a in his mindset. He has a long-term friend with benefits and as the whole joke into it, but it's real thing that sometimes that usually happens not exactly this case, but that's usually how they happen.
Speaker 2:Though no, no, so literally he went to like he kept explaining. It was like hey, so you know, it's your marriage, right? He's like, no, I'm not. He's like so this girl lives, the unit's girl live in the same house, right? Yeah, you're living. They're sleeping the same bed. Yeah, he's okay. So how do things kind of like go out before? It's like so he explained the situation where he was invited to a friendship party where she invited all his family and all of her family and they had a great friendship moment. He's like, yeah, we exchanged best friends forever rings.
Speaker 2:Like he said what about the kids and stuff? He's like, yeah, those are her. You said, oh, those are her kids. He's like, okay, so when y'all first started dating, did she already have the kids? He's like no, no, the friends, now the kids kind of came a little bit after. We said not dating this. I, when y'all was like still friends and you know, living in the same place, said that did she just like have these kids beforehand or afterwards? It was like, no, it's like she just was gone for a period of time, like I remember she's like yeah, I'm just bringing. She's gone for a period of time and came back and it's like and I was just kids. I just was like okay, you got some, you bring kids, cool, that's what's up. He's like, bro, you are literally married and those are your children like it could.
Speaker 1:It could have been looked at as an open marriage, but like no, like he never got the government involved in our relationship, it's just more like you fucking around. She was gone for a while. She came back with kids and just kept talking with your friend yeah, it's just what it is, this stuff yet, yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:So that's what I'm just saying. Like there are some times, with situations that happen, you have a friend, your friends, like y'all live together for a while, you get used to it. After a long period of time start developing certain well, hold on.
Speaker 1:The point I was meaning to say is that Wallace would have better taste than oh, that's like oh my god, I could not.
Speaker 2:I was like please, no, please no yeah. I'm like. I will believe that was have better taste that's why I was so happy, was like oh, I'm married, do do worse from 10.
Speaker 1:Okay, thank God just like, see, I feel like wall as well as like, okay, not to offend the LGBT community. I don't know why I'm being so, apologize, but I want to feel like Wallace Wells is like the, like a gay Chad.
Speaker 2:It's like he's the kind of do that he just get with anybody, if you wanted to yeah, like you said earlier, like there's some dudes that's literally they don't want to go out the other gay man, they want to go after straight man specifically, yeah, he's not, because the thing about it is this one thing is like well, I'm gay, I can get any other gay guy that I want per se, but it's fun to go after a straight guy and change. I need a challenge. You know, right, like that type of thing, like what you see, after he rejects so many times, he's only gonna reject so many times before he gives it a try and then boom, I'm like Todd didn't reject me.
Speaker 1:It'll be like Steve Urquhart doing the lore. It'll be like I'm wearing you down, baby, I'm wearing you down.
Speaker 2:Oh god, honestly, like it's down to, that's just one. That was one of the funniest things to me in this aspect and that was just like bro. Honestly, it even completely overshadowed the whole point of Ramona being Envy's stunt double, because that one was pretty funny so you wanted to have a whole stunt double fight and everything, but it was just like. Envy was just so mad.
Speaker 1:So you're a stunt double for Ramona flowers and your name is Ramona flowers. I'm like, yeah, that's right.
Speaker 2:That's funny. And then even the funniest thing was when Envy tried to find herself trying to clap at um and Wallace about it, and Wallace shut her down.
Speaker 1:Tell her, tell me the same thing you told you know, you know, uh, yeah, so um, you know that whole altercation.
Speaker 2:Bruh and then all his stunt doubles sitting here fighting, had to fight Envy's stunt doubles in Ramona. It was just like, yeah, y'all. And he's like you guys, suck, You're not. Are you sure that you're actually stunt doubles? You, I feel like you can fight better. And I still find it so funny that all of them were just like look see, we can fight being your stunt doubles, but what we cannot take is just ridicule and mental abuse. I'm out of here. I can't deal with this.
Speaker 2:I was happy that they stood up on that aspect. They're like you know what? We could take a lot of shit, but there's mental abuse. Hell, no, I'm out. I'm done with this. I'm the baby. You're the baby man, oh gosh. But like there was so many great moments in the shows, Like you said, I have a degree on two, I give it a five star rating out of five. This was enjoyable from beginning to end and it does not need a second season. We don't need a season Because the writers literally said that they have no idea where else to go from this. I mean, I feel like the whole thing with Future, sky and Ramona.
Speaker 1:that's the sequel right there. That's why I'm saying like, um, where, okay, there's a possibility that things could go wrong, but that pretty much like, give us the whole thing. It's like, okay, um, for the most part let's just let them have their happily ever after, and by now we know like it's real life, isn't like the Disney movies where, okay, the princess gets her prince and happily ever after. Like sometimes it's real funny how, uh, happily ever after is at the marriage, but you don't find out what happens after the marriage.
Speaker 2:You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:So I feel like that's good enough right there. Which I did is good enough right there.
Speaker 2:Exactly and, like I said, they adapted the comic. There's nothing else they need to do at this point. Like at this point, but that's it, we've reached the end. Like, boom, we done on this. So one of those things.
Speaker 2:Like you upset that old Juju Sukaizen is now reaching his final arc and like, no, there could be something more than that. This doesn't need to be anything more than that. Let it reach his end. Like everything has to end. You upset about the endings that we got with a hunter and hunter. Look, he's not wanting to go to this ending. However, should something happen to his health, this is the ending that we have. He's just preparing ahead of time. That's just what it is.
Speaker 2:Like everything good things have to come to an end. They can't last forever, otherwise it just feels overly dragged out and then you start becoming bored of it. A lot of saying people to be like, oh, this should never, this should never end, this should never end. When it winds up extending longer, it's like, oh, this should end. In a long time ago, you're the same one that said it shouldn't have ended. You don't know what you want. That's just what it is, but most people don't. We still are learning what it is that we want every now and then. That's just when I get that. But this right here, I think it had a satisfying closing. It doesn't need anything further. We're good to that. Let's not bunker down on the season two and then have it tarnish season one. How great this was. We don't need to like tarnish it with a possibility that it may not work out, because when they say they don't know where to continue, that means there's nothing else to do.
Speaker 1:The moment. If season two came out, it would be a straight up cash grab, and that was the whole artistic vision of it.
Speaker 2:Exactly. Let's do it for the enjoyment this time we do. We have so much stuff that's for the money. Let this one be for the enjoyment. It's a good story. We got it from beginning to end. There's no plot holes. We was able to cover every single base into it. We got it. We good now, we good Right Now. That final fight scene, though brother Older Scott was whooping ass, bro. Oh, he was kicking ass like it was no tomorrow, not the evil exes. Back to the present. That's what happened. Hit them so hard, they all went back to their own timeline. I was like God.
Speaker 1:And to think and let's just put this through perspective and to think, bro, young Scott, listen, listen, you can be that strong if you get started right this is your Gohan moment. You can be that strong if you put in the work right now.
Speaker 2:Even like if these go home, to go back in time and talk to you and go home right after you kill self.
Speaker 1:don't stop Never stop training, never stop. Dad was right. Okay, he was, he know he may not be the brightest bulb in the fucking kitchen, but he was right about that one thing Never stop training.
Speaker 2:The fact that even piccolo is having to keep telling your ass to keep training. You got two of your dads being like you should keep training and then, even more than you got your uncle, good old uncle Vegeta, who trashes you on the daily because you stop training. Everybody's telling you to keep going and it's not like you don't have the help. You don't have to be watching your kid all the time.
Speaker 1:I mean he watched you the whole time, so he minds well You're kidding.
Speaker 2:Yeah, like bro, not like you, don't have to help. The Dell obviously has an opportunity to still get stuff done too. Just saying like come on, go home, you had chance, Hold on.
Speaker 1:I got bills to pay. You know I got where my job Good, you are the grandson of the ox king.
Speaker 2:You are the grandson of the ox king. You're the son-in-law of Satan, of Hercules, the great savior of the world for multiple times.
Speaker 1:You and your father can win a fucking world tournament and make enough money for the whole year.
Speaker 2:Like, bro, you don't need to work, you just want to, that's fine.
Speaker 1:I'm like no, excuse me, bro, just get back in the gym. Like come on, bro, going into that hyperbar time chamber and fucking.
Speaker 2:Exactly. You just can't complain. You don't have the time. You have the time. You're out of time. You're in 10 years and in one year.
Speaker 1:And look at him now Strong enough to one shot, a master, ultra instinct Goku and an ultra ego Vegeta.
Speaker 2:We were just like.
Speaker 1:Never stop training, please.
Speaker 2:If you have a hyperbar time chamber, you can never say you don't have to. If we had a hyperbar time chamber, I promise you anytime a new video game would come out. It would already be beat Right, Like straight up. I just go in there, that's all I'm doing. The fridge restocks itself.
Speaker 1:Well, hold on, hold on. You're making rules. You've got a game with someone else. You can't go in there alone.
Speaker 2:I'm not going in alone. I'm going in with my gaming console. That's not by myself.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:That's another instinct.
Speaker 1:I'm just saying because you know some people be going crazy when they're all by themselves.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but that's also. You're by yourself doing nothing. But just training. You're bringing something to do. I'm bringing years worth of books into hyperbar time chamber where I'm just doing a year in one day. That's all I'm doing is reading these books that my imagination is flowing. I'm not going to go crazy from reading these books unless I'll need to take a break. That's usually it. But if I have the goal mindset, I'm going to read these books and you stick to that. You got it.
Speaker 2:But I understand If you had to come up, never say you don't have time for shit.
Speaker 1:Since when did you become such an expert in multi-person physics? I'm like yesterday. I was like when did you get the time to do that? I'm like you know, I have this.
Speaker 2:Look, overnight studying. I said I just need to study for one night, that's fine, you got. You got three months of studying in like a couple of hours, yeah. And still got a chance to get plenty of sleep as well.
Speaker 1:You was full of books right now and I'm thinking like if I really wanted to because you know my worst skills were not just I just never get around to it, but if I really wanted to, I know I can get through at least half the book in one night. If I wanted to Like, I just got to like, just speak Well, not really speed read, but you know, I read in a way to where I'm like I'm reading. So, even though I'm not exactly speed reading, but it doesn't take me that long to read a book. That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So it's like like we're saying Scott is starting now. Like you can see what 10 years of dedication can get you. You are a world ender. You break time. You can break time with your fifth. I'm always going to be that person. You are the final. You are the person with the number one headband. Only the number two headband can challenge you. Just like come on, bro, that was just you, just you just got was scary, like he just straight up to the point that they could not beat him, like there was no winning that fight whatsoever. If you're to, ramona had not shown up. He was literally going to break Scott and keep them separated forever. But future Ramona showing up, being able like oh yeah, I got these cool skates that allow me to skate through time as well, not just to the star door but into my star world, but also skate through time. That's still broken as ability, the fact that she's like, oh, I could just skate into a completely different dimension.
Speaker 1:So basically America Chavez on role plays.
Speaker 2:Right, but it's own pocket dimension. This isn't just like oh, I escaped the different reality dimensions she's created. She literally goes to her own pocket dimension. You can't fuck with her there. That's her reality. If she says she needs some space, she can listen to her, dominic Vanston, if you will. Right, so it's like I wish I could have a pocket dimension. That'd be nice.
Speaker 1:I mean, why even buy a house when you have your own pocket dimension?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm never homeless.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It's like you know it'd be rain outside, you said. You said it's like what. You weren't sleeping in the house, but you didn't get no rain on you whatsoever. Yeah, it was in my pocket dimension.
Speaker 1:It don't rain there, just it's like I mean honestly, when you think about it, I can't see why Pokemon don't really complain about being in their side, like in that pocket dimension. You don't know how big it could be on your side.
Speaker 2:I still would never understand the physics of a fucking Pokemon beyond your dimension, Because the thing about it is this it will trap every single Pokemon, even Pokemon that you've never seen before, but it will never trap a human.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:It'll never trap because, remember, there's also other regular animals there that are not Pokemon. You don't see them often, but there are animals in the world, in the Pokemon world, that are not Pokemon and the Pokeballs can't trap them either. They only trap Pokemon. There's no real explanation why it is it can't trap. But if it is literally a pocket dimension, if it taps and let's just say digitalizes, it's not say Digimon, but just say digitalize whatever taps and stores it in your ball, is that not capsule corp technology?
Speaker 1:I mean it's like reverse capsule corp technology when you think about it.
Speaker 2:Well, remember, even for capsule corp, they actually have buttons that turn it back into capsules again. So I'm just like is that not that same damn technology? Why is it that it only works for Pokemon? Why does it not work? Why, if I say I want to move, I can't just tap a Pokeball on my house? Why can't everything is stored inside this one ball that I can carry around? Because, also, it doesn't make a difference as far as weight, because remember some of these Pokemon when, if you look at the Pokédex, weigh like 15 tons and a 10-year-old boy is able to carry it on his hip like it's nothing, so weight don't make no damn difference either. Why can't I not store my house in a Pokeball? Why can't I go to where I want to move to and just drop my house there? Like I'm just saying, I will never understand the thing about it.
Speaker 2:I really feel like it's technology. They just use it only for the animals, but there is so much technology in the Pokeball that they are not using in Pokemon. I'm just saying like I just want to really point that out to you. Sorry, but no, like this was a great show. Obviously we could track on. Now we're starting to track on to other things. So I think that I have said everything I'm going to say about this show. The fact that I'm tracking on elsewhere means I feel like I've kind of finished up on the show.
Speaker 1:So Nah, honestly, we pretty much touched on just about everything that needs to be touched on, so I'm good, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Thanks for the show. If you haven't watched it, go watch it. It's great.
Speaker 1:Yes, go ahead and watch it on Netflix. And, with that being said, that will conclude our review. Thank you for listening to us to the end. You know the drill. We got links attached to the episode, so check us out on Facebook, instagram and all other social media In the social media portal at the bottom. Yeah, this is one of many reviews that we're going to be releasing. On January 11th, we're going to release Eminence and Shadow, season 2, jiu-jitsu Chaisen, season 2. We're going to talk about Kogiaz, we've got the Nerdy News Special and we got a few more things going on in January. But until that comes, just remember to stay nerdy and remember that great things are coming. We are zoning out, so take it easy, y'all.